*Chapters* 00:00 The GS That Might Sell 01:24 How Gold Star Happened 04:30 Riding the Gold Star 650 06:35 Vibration 09:04 Exhaust Note 09:55 Quality 11:37 Economy & Reliability 12:21 Chassis & Handling 15:46 Comfort & Details 17:51 A Hint Of History 19:08 Design & Finish 21:51 Living With It 24:06 Quirky Instruments 27:37 Pricing & Value 31:21 Then vs Now 33:51 RE Classic 650 34:31 Quick Summary 44:11 Service & Warranty 46:22 The Royal Enfield Obsession 48:11 Positive Movement 48:57 Availability & What's Next 50:34 Closing Comments *Explore MotorInc memberships* at youtube.com/@motorinc/join *ICYMI: Jawa 350 View* kzitem.info/news/bejne/1Gx633dqp4Wln44feature=shared
@BIJESH-ut9lf
Күн бұрын
Hi Team, A suggestion on this review. I took a test ride on this motorcycle and I liked it in aspects which Shumi mentioned. But what I came here for and what lacked is, the time spent on discussing about how the motorcycle feels!! Im left wanting for more on how the bike and riding experience is. You know what I mean! Less of company heritage stuff and more of how it felt in every kilometre you drove! 😊
@heisenberg19989
Күн бұрын
Lord splendor
@vintage_ind
9 сағат бұрын
@@motorinc do suzuki fiero review 2000 model
@TurbonicSpyder
2 күн бұрын
I rate this Summary 1 Gold Star
@motorinc
2 күн бұрын
What's that equal to in a traditional 10-point number system @TurbonicSpyder?🤓
@TurbonicSpyder
2 күн бұрын
@@motorinc 6.52 out 10 for the bike 10 for the summary, as always.
@Vikrum_
Күн бұрын
@@TurbonicSpyderI rather found the bike at least 6.533196 /10 🤔
@AmitK
Күн бұрын
I will choose classic 650 over goldstar who having proven engine , twin cylinder performance, dual exhaust sound and look as classic as 350. but I may choose goldstar over interceptor , interceptor burns legs and very heavy to handle
@user-wj5lw1rn5p
Күн бұрын
@@AmitKdoesn't exist yet
@farzadkarkaria6894
Күн бұрын
As a Parsi Bonneville owner whose grandfather rode a BSA, I laughed so hard at the part where he said 'apri bonnie apri bonnie.😂
@paritoshpande2786
Күн бұрын
As a buyer who after 1 year of test driving triumph t120 and 100 and not able to justify a price tag of around 13 lakhs. I bought myself a legacy edition and absolutely loved it. Interceptor is mimicking bonneville and they did a horrible job in terms of handling and the center of gravity. Classic legends engineered it really well in terms of ride and handling offering 90 percent of bonneville at 1/4 the price. Absolutely love the bike and its a hoot to ride. 500kms done and looking for 50k.
@Shemal.JustAnotherShrink
Күн бұрын
I agree about the centre of gravity! The Interceptor feels much heavier than the Gold Star.
@MadM0nkey
Күн бұрын
what a great comment... it's always nice to see when a rider knows exactly what he wants, and not what he thinks he wants just because the tube would have him believe that
@harshalshetty9865
Күн бұрын
All because of the 18 inch rims, get a 17 rear from the meteor 350 and that'll rectify the problem
@YoursNemo
Күн бұрын
@@harshalshetty9865 why can't they offer it as standard ??
@rohannnsurve
Күн бұрын
@@harshalshetty9865 why is everything about an RE a jugaad? Such a good motorcycle but never quite Spot on
@tryambakshandilya
2 күн бұрын
Guys u forgot one thing... we do have a decent exposure of BSA brand as bicycles ...Hercules BSA i think so many rode 😋😋
@motorinc
2 күн бұрын
😆😄
@Sportsblood11
Күн бұрын
I had a BSA rocket back in the days 😋
@tejvohra6815
Күн бұрын
I assume that this is a joke. Otherwise the Murugappa group BSA and the Birmingham Small Arms are two different companies with the same name
@ninadkhanzode1797
Күн бұрын
Back in 2018, while I was living in the UK, I had the chance to use a Vitpilen 701 as my primary motorcycle. It featured a KTM-derived 690cc single-cylinder engine producing around 70-75 bhp, paired with a lightweight frame of about 160 kg. This combination gave it an impressive power-to-weight ratio, especially for a single-cylinder bike. It was remarkably agile, fun to ride, and never felt monotonous. To me, this exemplified how a heritage brand can create modern motorcycles while preserving their distinctive characteristics. I believe BSA can follow a similar path with their platform, focusing on developing a modern, sporty motorcycle that aligns with the spirit of the Gold Star brand. They should prioritize these core characteristics over purely aesthetic design to build a truly authentic and exciting machine.
@shivakumarsaminathan2847
Күн бұрын
I burst out laughing on auto museum "What would you put in there" 😂😂😂
@rohannnsurve
Күн бұрын
Mojo! Thats where it should’ve gone directly from the factory surpassing the customer
@vikramwadhwani6174
Күн бұрын
But seriously.....if India ever had a "National Motorcycle Museum", what bikes/scooters/mopeds should be put in this museum? I'll go first - Bikes - RD350, Yezdi Roadking, RX100/135, 1st gen Pulsar 150/180. Scooters - Bajaj Chetak, Lambretta, Kinetic Honda. Mopeds - Kinetic Luna, TVS 50, Enfield Mofa.
@neerajkumarphookan5979
Күн бұрын
Splendor would be there
@atsonaga5520
Күн бұрын
Hero honda splendor n pulsar 😅
@shivakumarsaminathan2847
Күн бұрын
@@atsonaga5520 splendor from honds dna and pulsar from kawasaki dna
@deeptigyaksh6896
2 күн бұрын
Comments on the loud bike thing from Shumi. I was running a full system exhaust on my gen 3 duke 390…..let’s just say I had a “little stumble” on track and now I’m running the stock system and man im loving the old sound so much.
@motorinc
2 күн бұрын
"Why do we fall sir? So that we learn to just keep using the stock exhaust" 😆 @deeptigyaksh6896!
@-Deepak-M
2 күн бұрын
@@motorinc this is Shumi, isn't it? 😂
@vigneshram5237
Күн бұрын
@@-Deepak-Mspot on😂
@deeptigyaksh6896
Күн бұрын
@@motorinc 😂😂
@AnotherRahul1601
Күн бұрын
Hey! which track do you go to and how much does it cost? A rough breakdown will help alot.😊
@su_deep
Күн бұрын
Coincidentatly I took a test ride of this bike past Sunday and now listining to Shumi, things are flashing in my mind.. Awesome!!
@motorinc
Күн бұрын
Hope you had fun doing both @su_deep
@Amog_98
Күн бұрын
Summary is on point, I would rate it 10/10. Points I would like to include 1) Warranty should be at least 50k kms 2) Unreadable cluster can be fixed with black windshield. 3) Classic legends please fix the sticker (Because shumi hardly seen complaining about the sticker 😅) 4) and the fuel cap..
@motorinc
Күн бұрын
Thanks for pitching in @Amog_98
@110mano
Күн бұрын
Just did a test ride an hour ago. What an easy and maneuverable bike. Center of gravity is on point. Brakes are incredible. And the cherry on top is the punch it packs. Seals the deal for me instantly.
@motorinc
Күн бұрын
Glad to hear that @110mano!
@swapnil_dl
Күн бұрын
Kudos for the summary. No one beats you guys, as usual. But, I'll share my experience with Mahindra owned jawa. I booked the jawa classic at the very opening date of bookings. The bike came 9 months later, which i won't hold against the company as it was expected for a new brand. But the grief started the very next day of delivery. The oil seal on the engine head tore off in 20 km run. Instrument cluster was replaced in 700km. And then, i made the most horrible decision of going from Pune to Ladakh, till then i had gone through the break in period of the engine. But the bike, was awful. It had so many issues that i have literally lost count. The QA was terrible, oil leakages, coolant leakage, rusting of parts when the bike was always parked in a closed garage or with a bike cover. I had to sell the bike in 6 months of usage. Now, my brother, who had booked a jawa 42, still rides the bike. And the bike has been plagued with issues. We have had oil leakages at least 7 times, the instrument cluster has been replaced thrice, fuel pump replaced twice, the rusted suspension was replaced in early 2024 silently after a lots of noise by customers. I'm just giving a summary of issues. If anyone wants a complete record, reach out to me for full service records. Also, Karthik might know this, the classic legends dealership in Nagpur is shutting down, leaving all the customers in limbo. Now, people in Nagpur, will have to take their motorcycles to Amravati or chandrapur for service or face any breakdowns, which are really common. I know the dealer, and i was told the main reason of closure is the wrath of customers even after 4-5 years of launch. Moral of this story- DO NOT BUY CLASSIC LEGENDS bikes due to nostalgic feeling of owning a vintage motorcycle.
@swapnil_dl
Күн бұрын
BTW, my brother still lives in Nagpur and he is facing the dilemma of service issues once the showroom closes for good
@mustafadudhwala7278
Күн бұрын
May god have mercy on his soul then😢
@motorinc
Күн бұрын
That's definitely a difficult situation to be in @swapnil_dl! Thanks for sharing. We hope Classic Legends takes things like this into account and fixes them permanently soon.
@kedarpandit7559
9 сағат бұрын
Meanwhile........ BS3 Mojo owners silently clocking miles on their forgotten beauty of a bygone age and enjoying every mile... ❤❤
@swapnil_dl
7 сағат бұрын
@@motorinc they won't. Trust me, Mahindra has never learnt about improvement in quality. Even after all these years, when they're launching BSA, they're still using the same flatbed, no foam seat, hopeless suspension setup, pathetic finishing and I guess, a single layer of primer, lacker and single layer of paint for sure. The biggest problem is, we Indians tend to become fanboys, instead of being users. Brands take undue advantage of this brainless worship
@Mankiratsinghsehra
Күн бұрын
The first thing I am doing with my first paycheck is becoming a member so I can get this content asap. Lovely summary, great episode!
@motorinc
Күн бұрын
Thank you so much @Mankiratsinghsehra but we're sure there are other things that should be first...😊
@adithyas1091
2 күн бұрын
Comfortably numb is a great pick, I really like Poles Apart too. My pick is 'Pale Blue Eyes' (The Velvet Underground)!
@motorinc
2 күн бұрын
Wonderful choices @adithyas1091!😄
@rajb5595
21 сағат бұрын
I am a happy owner of a midnight Black GS 650. It brings out smile each time I ride it . I also have a BSA B31 350 from 1952 to accompany her in my garage ..❤❤❤
@ekagrakapoor3657
12 сағат бұрын
@@rajb5595 even i have the same bike, in the same colour and i would like to add im in love with the bike❤️
@motorinc
5 сағат бұрын
Awesome @rajb5595
@veer6574
Күн бұрын
We really are the champions . I have been enjoying motorinc on loop whenever I get chance . On work break, before going to sleep or walking . It's a top notch content my dudes . Carry on .
@motorinc
Күн бұрын
Thank you for joining us @veer6574
@kruzerblade4740
Күн бұрын
The other nameplates trademarked by BSA are the Bantam (a two-stroke bike), the Thunderbolt and Lightning (360 degree parallel twins, being relaxed and high performance versions respectively). While the new Bantam's origins would most certainly come from the Jawa 42 platform, I'd wager the Thunderbolt and Lightning (very very frightening, me) would prolly have their origins in another of Rotax's mills, specifically the 800cc 360-degree parallel twin that they developed for the BMW F800GS, which also had two states of tune. A 360-degree parallel twin which makes around 65-80 horsepower would be a fantastic proposition for BSA to enter into the lower-middleweight power class, and also finally have a proper USP which needn't be an eye-for-an-eye with an Enfield. Then again, that's just me speculating, so let's see how CL's BSA adventure goes. :)
@MandeepSingh-nm2qj
Күн бұрын
A 360-degree parallel twin bike would be fantastic.
@natarajmsnatashaa
Күн бұрын
I bought my BSA bike a few days ago and have already ridden it for about 650 km. I completely agree with the concerns discussed in the video, especially regarding the side lock-it’s definitely a safety issue that should have been addressed. That said, when you rev this bike, all those concerns fade into the background. The performance is absolutely exhilarating! The engine is fantastic, and the bike feels surprisingly light, making maneuvering in the city very easy. Having ridden the Twin Interceptor before, I can confidently say that I’m even more satisfied with my BSA. It beautifully balances classic design with the thrill of speed, making it an ideal choice for anyone who appreciates both style and performance. 😀
@motorinc
7 сағат бұрын
Glad to hear that @natarajmsnatashaa! Congratulations... Do let us know how the service experience is when you get that done. 😊
@natarajmsnatashaa
5 сағат бұрын
@@motorinc first service is done and engine is much smoother now and overall experience of service was also cool so far!
@laxmanparadkar6110
Күн бұрын
Just one feedback from my end. Along with the discussion kindly add more bike visuals in your videos. Like bikes full size pictures focusing on specific features, few shorts and some testing videos....as no doubt all your videos are great but what I feel it lacks is motorcycle visuals....for me just watching motorcycles even in pics gives a dopamine effect 😉
@motorinc
Күн бұрын
Noted @laxmanparadkar6110, but we don't mind waiting if you'd like to pause and google the vehicle's images before resuming the discussion 😊
@laxmanparadkar6110
Күн бұрын
@@motorinc 😁 ✌️
@arijitghosh2497
Күн бұрын
Thanks for the video, my experience having owned this motorcycle for about 3 weeks is almost exactly like what you mentioned. I hate the suspension would likely swap it out at some point, didn't find the seat that uncomfortable as you mentioned though. I found the overall paint quality not that great either it scapes off quite easily already have a bunch of marks on the tank. But it rides well, has plenty of torque sufficient for indian roads, I think it looks more classic than the interceptor, also the weight distribution is quite good too in comparison to the REs. I think this motorcycle will appeal to guys going through their midlife crisis who wants a retro in their garage thats different from the mass produced REs.
@motorinc
Күн бұрын
Thank you for sharing your experience @arijitghosh2497! Do share what you thought of the service quality if you have completed the first service.
@arijitghosh2497
Күн бұрын
@@motorinc I will be taking it in for servicing next week. To be honest I have kept my expectations quite low, having seen the setup they have here in Kolkata . I really think they have a lot to catchup with regards to after sales service. Well will definitely post about it once I get the service done
@prithvigoswami1982
18 сағат бұрын
@@arijitghosh2497 hey arijit! can i ask you from which showroom in kolkata did you buy your goldstar from? i want to take a test drive and honestly i have no idea about which showroom to visit because all of them are quite far from my place. ☺️
@arijitghosh2497
16 сағат бұрын
@@prithvigoswami1982 when I booked it it was only available in Jawa Yezdi tamluk, East Medinipur dealership. I drove there one weekend to take the test ride, but had them home deliver the motorcycle. Now the baguihati showroom has also become a BSA dealer which is much closer however I checked out their service centre which is right behind the showroom it was a little underwhelming to be honest.
@prithvigoswami1982
16 сағат бұрын
@@arijitghosh2497 okay…thanks for the information. shubho ashtami!😊
@AkshatSheth-xr1dj
Күн бұрын
It seems like Royal Enfield with BSA logo was the gist of the discussion. Hopefully as Shumi said developers should be given a clean slate and no mention of Royal Enfield will do wonders. Waiting now for launch of RE 650 Classic
@sovan_404
Күн бұрын
Bullet 650 and interceptor bear 650 also incoming. Also a spyshot of a Himalayan 650 with dual discs is doing the rounds.
@PrabhatXLR8
22 сағат бұрын
I own Shotgun 650 with almost 4000 KMs on Odometer.. Goldstar felt lighter and easy to maneuver in city traffic and clutch is lighter..
@motorinc
5 сағат бұрын
Thanks for sharing @PrabhatXLR8
@KevinSam33
Күн бұрын
Classic legends, and more specifically BSA, seems to be making the same mistake that Harley did a few years ago: trying to capitalize on the nostalgia of a generation that is slowly disappearing, while forcing the 'old-world charm' onto the current generation that has wants nothing more than the 'aesthetic' of that era. Great review as always!
@HarishBabuM
Күн бұрын
What do you mean "nothing more than aesthetic"?
@ParanoidDharmas
14 сағат бұрын
Correct, they should focus on delivering better products than selling "nostalgia" product of 50s 😅 which shows they don't know that people of that era are either too old to drive the motorcycle or long gone
@shantanugadgil
Күн бұрын
Tell me that you guys did a "same pinch" to each other when you color co-ordinated with the brown t-shirts. 😂😂😂
@motorinc
Күн бұрын
It was intentional @shantanugadgil 😝
@anandiyer8655
Күн бұрын
316K subscribers is quite a reliable base for Motorinc to suggest some Indian company to start manufacturing main stand for Goldstar🎉
@motorinc
Күн бұрын
We'd honestly prefer for BSA to do it themselves @anandiyer8655, it's such an essential equipment that it'd be much easier for everyone.
@zainalizaidi5852
2 күн бұрын
Well my Pulsar 150 (2004) model motorcycle has a class leading 18 L fuel tank , it also has twin pod analog dials instrument cluster and lockable side panels!💪💪It's proudly Made In India by an Indian brand!🇮🇳👌
@motorinc
Күн бұрын
🤜🏽🤛🏽
@Throttle_and_Bike
Күн бұрын
18 Ltrs 😮😮 ...even today's tourer bikes don't have such large tanks...wonder why manufacturers are moving towards smaller tank
@nithin_m_nair
Күн бұрын
Just brought the goldstar650. Absolutely loved the bike. Dont go by the spec sheet. The bike has a personality
@motorinc
11 сағат бұрын
Congratulations @nithin_m_nair! We wish you lots of wonderful rides with it...!
@paavanrupapara1349
2 күн бұрын
Finally, the most awaited video for me!!
@motorinc
2 күн бұрын
Thank you for waiting @paavanrupapara1349
@AdhruthShenoy
Күн бұрын
Have been riding the gold star for almost a month now. With regards to the service, the first service costed me 3,040 INR. The service center in Santacruz was great, and super efficient. I would agree with most of Shumi’s comments. I dislike the fuel cap, and surprisingly it’s one of the tiny bits that annoys me a lot. I am kinda scared that someone is going to steal my toolkit and battery :). Would probably change the suspension and run a tube to tubeless conversion after a few months. However, all of those are tiny issues, the bike wins in the feel factor and almost always leaves a smile on my face after a long day. I guess that’s what matters the most.
@motorinc
10 сағат бұрын
Wonderful to hear that @AdhruthShenoy! Thank you for sharing...
@N0tTh3Pr0
Күн бұрын
49:30 Kartikeya just hyper ventilating at Shumi's comment about the 650 going upto 900, had me in stitches. If someone from classic legends watching this as Shumi said, please do your own thing, your competition must be with yourself not with another. Bettering themselves is a better progress than trying to be better than the competition.
@vaibhavdlv
Күн бұрын
I would say do a 1300 twin!! That would show the world who's the king!! Don't know if they have the balls for that though!😆😆😆
@motorinc
Күн бұрын
Thanks for the support @N0tTh3Pr0!😄
@kunalghubale5480
Күн бұрын
I take a test ride, I really like, at a single cylinder bike with 650cc engine mind-blowing, really great because its a legendary bike.... And the era of BSA is back.. it's really good design, the colors, the finishing, the power when you ride this bike... Damn yrr... Thank you for such a great bike launch in india.
@abhiojha4971
2 күн бұрын
Thank you guys for the great talk. Couple of things I felt on the test ride, as I was very excited seeing its review for over a year from other countries - 1) The quality for the price was not upto the mark. The moment I sat, my excitement instantly came crashing down, since I was expecting to be wowed, considering it was being sold in non price conscious market for so long 2) It being single cylinder has it charms, but I could not shake the feeling, it costs as much as an interceptor twin with better reliability, quality and service. 3) I wanted to buy this, as Classic 650 is taking too long, which is the style of bike I wanted and this bike looking even better than classic in style from far, but after test ride, it seemed I can easily wait for it or rather go and buy classic 350 Overall if they had either launched at at least as an introductory price of 50k less, a little better quality overall and to make it seem apart, a tubeless spoke from get go, I would have ignored reliability and service concern and bought it instantly.
@motorinc
2 күн бұрын
Thank you for sharing your thoughts @abhiojha4971! Waiting for the Classic 650 then?
@abhiojha4971
2 күн бұрын
@@motorinc Actually I was, but then I did a random gamble, to book a Classic 350 and apply for factory custom, and crazy enough my booking got selected in the 15 lucky people. They flew me in, help me design my bike, gave me a tour of their factory and I mentioned your name there (especially to the guy who designed thunderbird), he said he knew you personally, told him to say "Hi" to Shumi from me :) I will get the bike probably by the new year. Now the thing is, my custom bike is too good, so will never be able to sell it. So I might need a bigger parking, if in future I want to buy a Classic 650 or anything else :D
@-Deepak-M
2 күн бұрын
@@abhiojha4971 this is such a sweet success story! Congratulations on your dream bike 🎉 #wholesome
For some reason the re 650 engines seem like mass produced hunks of metal now, very well sorted out though..I'll agree they're beautiful in their own way. But this big (not sure if i wanna say this word) thumper has a certain underdog feeling to it.. I'm still 17 but riding the re 650 on a closed land didn't feel anything more than a heavy unicorn (the honda one lol)with more grunt
@yogeeswarpal
Күн бұрын
Stairway to heaven as a single is better than Comfortable Numb, but it wasn't released as a single, Comfortably Numb is Goat of Solo guitar showmanship and Singles. Stairway to heaven is a very close second guitar showmanship but an overall better song by miles, IMO. Don't know much about motorcycles, so had to comment on things I know about.
@motorinc
Күн бұрын
Thanks for sharing @yogeeswarpal
@sanathramesh
Күн бұрын
was waiting for this review. I test drove this bike was kinda blown away ..... As a RE 350 owner, i say classic legends has got more things right here. Hopefully they work on their aftersales service
@motorinc
Күн бұрын
That's great @sanathramesh! We too hope that the service experience turns out to better than the other CL brands.
@PetrolSniffingDoofus
Күн бұрын
18:46 I disagree with Shumi. I think India can build a motorcycle museum. I mean, motorcycles are the staple in India unlike other countries. Rajdoot, Spledor, Pulsar, Bullet, even Activa and Chetak deserves to be in one.
@motorinc
11 сағат бұрын
Thanks for letting us know @PetrolSniffingDoofus
@pavanmuthanna2166
8 сағат бұрын
I've been looking forward to this. My Dad rode a Bonnie as a young army officer in the 1950s, and in my stable is a 2014 air-cooled Bonneville T100 which is an absolute sweetheart of a bike. You can just surf the wave of torque, and I've often thought that an ADV with that engine and perhaps slightly taller gearing would be a sweet spot. It's the only one of my bikes I can't see myself selling. Triumph's spare parts, both the availability and pricing, make the RE twins smarter choices, but who cares. The fit and finish - chrome, paint thickness, clocks, pea-shooter exhausts, all just exude a sort of relaxed class, and the bike still looks simply amazing. I agree...at that price, at any price, I'd attribute more value to a twin than to a single, and from that lens, I'd be interested to see how the BSA does. Thanks for another calm, neutral, and comprehensive review.
@motorinc
2 сағат бұрын
Thank you for sharing your thoughts @pavanmuthanna2166! If it intrigues you, we'd suggest taking a test ride to see what you feel. We'd be interested to know that as well...😊
@absash7838
Күн бұрын
Finally a product that actually deserves some attention and a review perhaps.
@Shemal.JustAnotherShrink
Күн бұрын
I was waiting for this video to decide whether to wait for the Classic 650. Understandable, will start saving for one of these two! 10/10 for the summary!
@HamzaFaruqui
Күн бұрын
One thing I've always hated about the RE twins is how top heavy they've always felt. Haven't ridden the BSA yet but I've heard multiple people talk about how it has better weight balance. Looking forward to it. Also, I feel like calling the funduro 650 the best single when a little Italian company quite recently chopped their last flagship v-twin engine in half to create a 698cc single is a biiiiiiiiittttt of a stretch. Also also, please for the love of God make video summarising the Indian tyre market in terms of riding genres and price brackets. Also also also, to me, you're both the Old Stars (old meant purely as a compliment btw 😂). Your reviews are what I remember watching on the 4:3 CRT tele as a kid and I am so glad we still get to learn from your expertise and the sheer genuinity when reviewing products. Also also also.....also (this is getting too long) the quick summary was perfect as always.
@motorinc
7 сағат бұрын
We're thankful that you took the time to share your thoughts in detail @HanzaFaruqui. Also, thanks for the suggestion. Also, also, we agree that the best single is a bit of a debate. And also also also, let us know how your test ride goes!😁
@escanor2002
Күн бұрын
When we get review of Jawa 42FJ?
@jnvid1
Күн бұрын
Related to the tank cap, Shumi should try opening and closing the tank cap on a Triumph Speed Twin 1200 and share his visual response/reaction
@thecrazysharma
Күн бұрын
Never sat ready for a video more than this....
@tarunprabhu2562
5 сағат бұрын
I hope the 650 gets into the Jawa side. Give us a roadking!! I started my journey on a Yezdi, I will always be a Jawa/ yezdi guy at heart. Still waiting for a twin with dual exhausts (I'm ok with 360 degree crank) that sounds like a two stroke. : )
@SlipperrClutch
21 сағат бұрын
Im glad shumi mentioned the logo,stickering and pricing part that’s exactly what i thought 😊
@borderlands6606
22 сағат бұрын
In a UK context, big singles like the Gold Star and the Manx Norton were associated with fine handling racing machinery. If I recall correctly some people raced them against much more powerful Japanese machinery into the 1970s, because they handled so well. The push back was because the new Gold Star resembled the DBD34 in no way whatsoever, apart from having a single cylinder. Like Jaguar launching an E-Type family saloon. The consensus seems to be that the new bike is a work in progress, with some owners loving them and some trying to pass them on. It didn't help that the Gold Star was launched at a higher price, before a significant drop, souring the relationship with early adopters and the brand. edit: UK roads are quickly catching up with Indian highways for lack of maintenance.
@motorinc
5 сағат бұрын
Thank you for sharing your thoughts @borderlands6606!
@Samarthsahni
Күн бұрын
As a KTM guy my love with singles continues with Goldstar 650. I just love my new bike. ❤❤
@motorinc
Күн бұрын
Wonderful! Thanks for sharing @Samarthsahni, how long have you owned one?
@Samarthsahni
Күн бұрын
@@motorinc it’s been 25 days. 700 km driven. WOW experience 😎✌️
@rohitthyss
Күн бұрын
As much as I love your conversations, I request the team to have subtitles guy. It's not about u or the motor cycle enthusiasts. But, it helps for us who are late learners slowly getting into that enthusiasm. Few words even the CC in youtube couldn't get it right. Humble request
@motorinc
Күн бұрын
Duly noted @rohitthyss
@bisoulmanic
18 сағат бұрын
You should look at my face while watching the quick summary, phone in one hand and scratching my head with the other here is how it goes.. The suspension has issues, the seat cushion is an issue but everything else is good.. The engine gets hot and the exhaust doesn't have a cover so you might get burnt but everything else is good.. The tank is small, the finish is not good the stickers are cheap but everything else is good.. There are only two possibilities 1) BSA held your feet and cried like "kuch bhi bolo, ganda hai mat bolo 2) All I know about BSA is the BSA cycle I owned during my schooling 🤐
@bali1538
7 сағат бұрын
BMW Funduro 650 was like a dream in late 90s .Originally its price was 5 lakh then it was reduced to 2.5 lakh . Still it was too costly. All i could afford was only its poster. I remember trying to race it on a traffic light then. On the green signal when i had moved 10 meters on my enfield it was at least 200 meters ahead of me . I gave myself second runners cup proudly while spilling bear in my mind (in a race of 2 where the other person was not even aware of this Hi Class International tournament 😂)
@siddharthmenon2105
Күн бұрын
I would like to thank Shumi, cause I was among the unfortunate ones who was caught up in the Jawa Bandra dealer scam that happened last year, and the day Shumi talked about it on Team BHP, the next day the company activated on a plan to help us out (which they hadn’t done for 4 months and almost 12 of us hounding them to do so). I really feel even a single tweet/post by you guys really makes these auto manufacturers buck up big time. Thank you Shumi
@motorinc
Күн бұрын
Glad to have been of help @siddharthmenon2105, thank you for sharing!😊
@siddharthmenon2105
Күн бұрын
@@motorinc sir, if anything thank YOU 🙏 Hope I can repay the favor one day
@ShadabSiddiqui-f7h
9 сағат бұрын
So there is this medical uni King George Medical college. My dad lived in the workers colony. He rode a lot of British bikes including the Goldstar and he owned a Triumph Twin 500. had an awesome British blue and beige paint scheme...I have a pic too of that on my instagram. Now I have two RD350s myself. British bikes had character and charm then..good old days
@harivinayak03
Күн бұрын
Why S2 Episode 24? It was the Altroz. Shumi did mention some new upcoming platform/content that you guys would "really push" in the episode. Almost forgot, 10 for the summary.
@motorinc
Күн бұрын
Thank you @harivinayak03. And they're talking about ThisConnect S02E24 which isn't out yet!
@pratvachan
Күн бұрын
"Phantom stood for the grip the Pirellis offered" ---- Classic Shumi 😂😂😂❤
@IndiraAiyar
Күн бұрын
I am not a Parri, and I have 2 old BSAs. A Golden Flash 650 twin Plunger and a Bantam. Kartik S. Aiyar.
@motorinc
11 сағат бұрын
Good for you @IndiraAiyar!😊
@sameer_dhingra
2 күн бұрын
Just test drove this and I love it! Am I crazy? Choosing this over everything else
@AAKEngine
2 күн бұрын
being the cheapest 650, you will probably never regret the decision. Torque seems good, and tbh if you love it, you can't be wrong
@motorinc
2 күн бұрын
We aren't surprised at all @sameer_dhingra! But please do take test rides of the rivals as well so that you can validate the feelings before making a decision.
@yadhunayt
11 сағат бұрын
Hi Kartikeya and Shumi! I did not know where else and how else to reach out to you regarding an issue I have.. So posting it here though its totally unrelated... Sorry for that... I have a tata safari 2024 .. This is the accomplished + with all the bells and whistles in terms of electronics... I love the car (have been dreaming of getting once since 1998 when i was in class 9) and in less that 4 months I have already done 15k on it... I tour on it every week... Now the issue.. My house is surrounded by stray dogs.. So whenever I used to park the car outside, the dogs used to cut the DEF pipe off... So after a few visits to the service center, I decided to cover the bottom of the vehicle which I did... Now the dogs were not able to reach the def pipe.. But guess what... They now cut off the abs and parking brakes sensor which goes to all the four wheels and there is no way of protecting that... Question - is there any way I can protect the car and its electronics from dogs apart from parking the car inside? The point is I have a really beautiful frontyard which i don't want to fill up with this humongous elephant of a car....Is there a solution to this?
@the-regularguy
Күн бұрын
@9:36 100% agree with it.
@atulmenon777
Күн бұрын
6:12 I can agree with that, its there even in my 2024 Dominar 250. At initial days i felt it maybe air is less in front tyre( it only happens at very low speed) later i got it bikes chasis is like that. Thanks Shumi for confirming it, i was able to relate it ( i even felt it today on my way back from work)
@ducatimultistradav4850
Күн бұрын
Motorinc always potrays quality, even if their videos are lengthy and late ❤
@motorinc
Күн бұрын
We appreciate the support @ducatimultistradav4850
@karthiksridhar4618
2 күн бұрын
I’m a 30-year-old who has no idea about the heritage of BSA. And all I can see is that this product is being benchmarked against the RE Interceptor 650. And that’s where I think that they’ve dug themselves a hole. A single-cylinder 650 vs a twin sounds absolutely bad on paper and is an immediate downer. But the motorcycle was definitely not that bad when I test-drove it. But hey, to make people lose their initial inhibitions about a single-cylinder 650 and invite them for a test drive in itself is going to be supremely challenging for Classic Legends! Why not make a replica with a twin? Who’s going to even care about what these motorcycles represented in the 60s? I’m completely flummoxed.
@motorinc
Күн бұрын
Hey Karthik! Yes that's exactly right. Getting people to take a test ride itself will become the challenge.
@anirudhhhh
Күн бұрын
It is not as cut and dry. Not all of us want a twin. A lot of us grew up with singles and would love to own a large single that chugs along. The Goldstar looks gorgeous, it is lighter than the RE and has slightly better performance than RE twins. I think they did a great job.
@tariqomar0
Күн бұрын
A single and a dual cylinder has completely different vibes and characteristics. Why compare them? Can a twin give the ample amount of torque that a single can give? I have read that there are limitations to it. So, the comparison is not withstanding. Just enjoy the bike man. If it pulls the strings of your heart then go with it and if it doesn't then also you will learn about your riding preference. This constant comparison between a single and a double cylinder and the argument that they should have gone with a twin looks very generic to me. There are n number of things that they should or could have done with this bike, but right now this is what they have made and judge it for what it is.
@karthiksridhar4618
Күн бұрын
@@anirudhhhh Dear Anirudh, I did like the bike when I rode it. My confusion wasn’t with the fact that if this would perform with this being a single cylinder. My confusion was with Classic Legends’ constant benchmarking/marketing targeting RE customers. And in doing that, they’ve failed at the beginning. Because it’s human tendency to compare a single with a twin. I took the plunge and did a test drive. In fact, the Gold Star has better ergonomics, none of the footpegs coming in the way issue which I had with the Interceptor. But I am really not sure how many would take the plunge and take the test drive.
@karthiksridhar4618
Күн бұрын
@@tariqomar0Dear Tariq. Agreed. My last paragraph was more of an exasperation than an explanation. As I’ve explained to Anirudh here, I did end up enjoying the single :) And yes you’re right. The comparison is fraught with logical loopholes. That said, as a consumer, I was merely responding to the benchmarking of Classic Motors with RE. And when a company benchmarks its single with a twin, naturally comparisons are the next logical result. Here’s another interesting thing about me. I had the budget to buy an Interceptor 650. But I fell in love with the Reborn 350. So my hypocrisy notwithstanding, looks like my heart went after a single after all ;)
@dipankarroy5944
Күн бұрын
Our boys are twinning today !!
@DrDaveMatthew
Күн бұрын
@motorinc I'm someone wanting to come back to motorcycling after about 10 years, what should I get for a relaxed motorcycle? The first bike I bought with my money was an LML ENERGY. Later had an AVL 350 , a 2010 classic 500. For a relaxed mile munching motorcycle , should I get a kawa versys 650 or a lab rat like an Enfield or BSA ?
@TheTwinPost
Күн бұрын
31:12 World's Best Single, Maybe also the world's most expensive single as well - Ducati Hypermotard 698 mono
@u98112
Күн бұрын
@@TheTwinPost the most eligible single is their tagline
@chetanmmore
Күн бұрын
As soon as I see a motorcycle first impressions video from motorinc, I assume it's gonna be a great day ahead.
@motorinc
Күн бұрын
Hope you enjoyed it @chetanmmore! The day and the episode both 😁
@Mrcabhishek53
13 сағат бұрын
I have had my Jawa 42 2019 rear shocks replaced thrice, exhaust once on both sides (one of which was replaced during the cap), Speedometer 4 times, and wiring kit replaced once. Endpoint Did I pay anything ?- No Did these issues leave me stranded?- No Was it a headache in the beginning? - Yes But as a brand I like where classic legends are going...mistakes were made but they are trying to correct it.
@motorinc
3 сағат бұрын
That's a good sign for sure @Mrcabhishek53! We hope that they move forward to a place where they don't need to do this multiple times...
@vikasshetty390
Күн бұрын
10 on ten for karthikeya's quick summary!
@motorinc
Күн бұрын
Thank you @vikasshetty390
@amarpaithankar8731
Күн бұрын
Fantastic end line
@Allenf16
Күн бұрын
9:40, 16:24 is I believe a general statement of how things are in our country at the moment
@DJ_2196
Күн бұрын
Thanks for the detailed review. Good to know the correct picture. Are you going to review Jawa 42 FJ?
@pskiranps
2 күн бұрын
Karthik, you did not mention a crucial point which is the missing center stand in the quick summary and hence I would rate your quick summary at 5/10. 🙂
@motorinc
2 күн бұрын
Fair! We'll take it @pskiranps
@pratieekpatole
23 сағат бұрын
21:05 RE Machismo reference on point, though it had lockable panels😂❤
@manishpandey6287
Күн бұрын
Things which can make BSA 650 Truly Great Again like the in UK: 1) Better rear suspension 2) Competitive pricing and not just linked to Interceptor 650 3) Bigger fuel tank 4) Smaller Piston... 5) Have Indian Flag as it's owned by a Indian Company and not by UK as it has British Flag on seat 6) Simple and legible, visible dashboard with backlit display to be seen in broad day light also 7) Well cushioned seats suitable for long rides
@atharvalandge1268
Күн бұрын
There’s a small hill called Parsik Hill in Belapur. Cool, twisty sections, great for riding bikes 🔥
@rsri17
Күн бұрын
16:18 Reminds me of mini cooper tail light design
@ARPANKUMAR007
Күн бұрын
One of the most enjoyable moto podcast format review
@vivek1393
11 сағат бұрын
After testing the motorcycle I informed the sales person that the mini screens are extremely difficult to see. What he said was that it is intended to be a retro bike which is why that is the case. My point is if you cant do it properly, don't do it. Its just a matter of tilting the cluster so that sunlight doesn't fall on it directly. I enjoyed the motorcycle otherwise. I felt it needs too much shifting low down in the rev range and the suspension is a bit bouncy (maybe it's tuned for European roads). And it desperately needs tubeless compatible rims.
@motorinc
3 сағат бұрын
Thanks for sharing @vivek1393! We hope that they fix that in the next iteration, if not sooner.
@ParanoidDharmas
14 сағат бұрын
Unreadable instrument cluster is the new trend in the motorcycle industry 😅
@dr.virpat3007
Күн бұрын
well connected talk on almost on all the aspect of the BSA, I was just interested to know, does it has sitting comfort of classic 350 or posture stays like on GT 650??
@suryakantsharma
23 сағат бұрын
New R3 is here. Shumi needs to talk about it
@motorinc
5 сағат бұрын
We'll talk if it comes to India and after we ride it @suryakantsharma
@suryakantsharma
3 сағат бұрын
@@motorinc Can't wait 😍
@karun_vv7190
Күн бұрын
Because of my father's connection with 350 classic and growing up with that, i have a thing for classic, retro or even neo retro bikes. I haven't seen or get the chance to ride BSA, I know people who got the chance and they prefer inter650. Because it's a twin. And i would prefer 650 too. It's a good looking bike for sure but the sound and character of 650 twin is just way better.
@motorinc
11 сағат бұрын
Indeed, it'd be interesting to see where BSA takes this.
@vyshakreghukumar995
Күн бұрын
While Classic Legends went the retro route with the Jawa and BSA, why did they skip that for the Yezdi and launched all new products under that brand? (When clearly the Yezdi Roadking has even bigger recall value among Indians). Also talking about retro brands, it'd be exciting if Classic Legends did the same with 4-wheeler brands like Ambassador, Contessa and Premier Padmini (perhaps in EV avatars).
@ronniejindal3055
Күн бұрын
This podcast has me coming back to life
@motorinc
Күн бұрын
Woah welcome to the future @ronniejindal3055 😅
@rishabhpai1021
Күн бұрын
Blocked by your "thing" 27:05 😂😂
@auro1845
Күн бұрын
I never rode a bsa, never saw it but heard about it a lot from my uncles. I hope this bike will give them that nostalgia which they always dreamed of. As far as the summary goes I will like to give it a 5 Gold Stars. Not to mention the closing note of "old star" was too funny🤣🤣
@motorinc
Күн бұрын
Thank you for the rating @auro1845 😄
@abhisheksenapati2497
6 сағат бұрын
I am pretty sure Carbon Racing gonna make a centre stand, with really good build quality.
@pratieekpatole
23 сағат бұрын
5:56 Waiting for the front end experience and comparison with Domy, 6 minutes into the convo and here we are! 😂😂❤
@IndustrialFaith
Күн бұрын
I trust these two men more than just about anyone when it comes to reviews. I also laugh my ass off the whole time. Simply delightful! Thank you again! o7
@motorinc
Күн бұрын
Thank you for joining us @IndustrialFaith
@IndustrialFaith
15 сағат бұрын
@@motorinc Thank you!
@world.of.sid.n
Күн бұрын
Summary rating 8/10 As someone born in 1995, the only connection I can make with the BSA brand is the bicycles and funny enough, I remember the seat foam to be thin as well compared to the hero's. 😅😅 Had to buy one of those padded seat covers because class 10 Biology taught me "things" I should be worried about. 😉
@motorinc
10 сағат бұрын
Glad that you're making scientifically informed decisions @world.of.sid.n 😅, stay safe our there!
@muktamao
Күн бұрын
Keep the summary, it's very useful to go back to... And fun
@motorinc
Күн бұрын
Thanks, will do @muktamao!
@afloon
Күн бұрын
Firstly .... you guys are doing a super amazing job. I was eagerly waiting for your reviews and will wait it out further as i am also keen on owning one. I agree on most of the things that you have covered as i too had 2 short burst of test rides which does not justify my experience much. I believe main stand should be provided. Side panels should have a lock system. Headlamp back cover needs to be of chrome instead of black. Also the headlamp holder needs to be more classy like the speed 400 triumph. The bike should be slightly longer, for which i mean i prefer slight more space between the chassis and the tyre. ( cb350 has it) The handle bars could be optional like gt continental klipons The tank can be a bit bigger at 12.5 litres. Engine sound can be better ( like the whistling engine sound of GT) Would prefer 400/450/500 cc version . Lighter and pocket friendly as well. I used to ride my fathers Bsa 350 cc sports 1965 model so i can very well relate to what the older Bsa's /Nortons /Triumphs /Ajs /Velocette/Matchless. As you said. The bike is good but not flawless. I would very well become an admirer of classic legends and the BSA and Mahindra of course if they work on their imagination and deliver a product which should be well worth owning for the next few decades as a Parsi likes.. and so do i as i am one Bawa. Aflatoon Cyrus Izedyar
@motorinc
Күн бұрын
Thank you very much for taking the time to share your thoughts Aflatoon! Turns out there are people to whom BSA means something, eh? We hope the company takes these suggestions seriously!😄
@burnttoast9890
Күн бұрын
The world best single now is without a doubt the ducati 698 mono engine
@Satadru74x9
2 сағат бұрын
From this topic aside, I wanted to ask one thing. For a city and a 30+30 = 60km highway usage everyday, in Gurugram and the rest of nearby cities, which Maruti car sounds a more logical purchase, Ignis or Baleno, both top spec AMT (cheaper option preferable if reasonable). Do Ignis really make a sensible purchase in 2024? You can suggest other cars and other companies as well but first among the 2 I provided I need an answer please.
@rohanrawal3949
Күн бұрын
Excellent Summary Kartikeye, pretty much you sumed up everything 👏
@motorinc
5 сағат бұрын
Thanks @rohanrawal3949
@ArunSapaare
Күн бұрын
First of all, shoutout to both Shumi & Karthikeya for choosing same colored wardrobe for the episode!!😉 Since this bike came out, I had three major questions, 1) The science behind going for a 650cc engine with a single cylinder. 2) Why spoke wheels in 2024? 3) Why choose Halogen lighting as a default when going retro? All my questions have been answered, thanks!!😊 Also, I always enjoy the quick summaries so 5 "Gold stars" from my side!!🥰❤
@motorinc
10 сағат бұрын
Thank you @ArunSapaare!
@ReignitedDrifter
Күн бұрын
Hi motorinc/karthik/shumi, 6months back i got a call from bhubaneswar classic legends area manager that my bike fews parts will re replaced in the jawa yezdi service camp as my bike was manufactured in March 2021 (purchased on sep 2022), My bike didn't had any rusting on its silencer and suspension still the service camp guys changed it anyway by saying that this parts might be get rusty as the vendors were not that good. I got free replacement of Around 25k worth. I can say that they are really working hard on the service camp and increasing quality of servicing. But the main area in which classic legends should work on is the COST OF SPARE parts... Don't get me wrong bt as a owner of jawa 42 i can say that the spare parts in service center are costly.. Its not for middle class people... Triple rate in comparison to royal Enfield. Just to add an extra point recently they are giving heavy discount on their evry bike.. But recently also they have increased the cost of spare parts and labor cost in service center... Which is not good for all existing customers
@motorinc
Күн бұрын
Thanks for sharing your experience @ReignitedDrifter! This is a step in the right direction, mostly. We hope they iron out the niggles soon.
@Tekista
Күн бұрын
brooo the quality of videos, info and non biased talks👏👏👏
@motorinc
7 сағат бұрын
Thank you for watching @Tekista!
@saurabhmithari2396
2 күн бұрын
Recently I had a test ride of both RE Interceptor 650 and Gold Star 650 back to back. The heating issue is real. Also the instrument cluster looks cheap and flimsy basically the engine kill switch and indicator switch I found that not only on the test bike but also on the bikes that were parked inside the showroom the cluster was moving clockwise and anti clock wise without any effort and given its priced same as RE that is a let down.
@motorinc
2 күн бұрын
Interesting observations @saurabhmithari2396! Thank you for sharing...
@adeadgirl13
Күн бұрын
I was surprised that Shumi didn't mention BSA cycles in the brand's history. Then I googled it and found out that that's a different Indian brand, albeit with a UK connection. And forever I thought my friend's BSA Montra was from a British company that used to make motorcycles!
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