number 1 rule of doing a cam shaft on an LS is dont look at the cam bearings. are they there? yes then they are fine. full send
@jakechimiak9626
2 жыл бұрын
That is the most stupid thing I’ve ever heard why build anything and half ass it and hope for it to last
@TorqHub
2 жыл бұрын
@@jakechimiak9626 calm down bud. Clearly haven't been around the 'sloppy mechanics' community 😅
@shaye8077
2 жыл бұрын
@@TorqHub hahaha if you check them there no good , if you dont check them there good
@mattmoore8545
2 жыл бұрын
Guys while it's still apart replace the cam retaining plate. That's an important seal embedded in it for the oiling circuit. Also I'd go a single row chain. Don't stress about bearings or rings. Bolt it back together and send it. Have fun.
@dazaspc
2 жыл бұрын
Single row is the go especially with 918's
@mattmoore8545
2 жыл бұрын
@@dazaspc yeah I've only ever used single row rollmaster kits and never had issues. All about the right bits for your combo.
@FuManchu5ltr
2 жыл бұрын
Cam here to say the same.
@TorqHub
2 жыл бұрын
Wow, look at this comments section! I didn't realise you blokes had so many experts within your following. Wonder if they can all show us their backyard built high HP combos 🤣
@boosted07rodeo14
2 жыл бұрын
been building ls stuff for over twenty years , na and forced induction , blown , turbo stuff. last one made 1200 hp . when you see the small reasons why ls engines lunch themselves , you learn its best for the wallet to build them properly.
@benjohnson7170
2 жыл бұрын
Parts washer is bloody awsome. As if we don't use enough solvents already. Nice...... And a great real world vid as usual fellas.
@5lcalais1
2 жыл бұрын
Trick is to undo the balancer in the car first, breaker bar on chassis rail, pull fuel pump fuse then crank the engine, works every time 👌 If you've got a decent rattle gun though then it's no problem.
@ADayInTheLifeOfJames
Жыл бұрын
Nath’s laugh is life 🙌
@AngryGermanGarage
2 жыл бұрын
Love it guys, good to see you finally working on a real engine ;) Some tips if you are interested... 1) Love the roof winch. I did much the same in my shed, but take note from my previous failures... when this fails, it'll be the straps getting sliced by the razor sharp edge of the block. When this happened to me, the engine did a summersault from about head-height and barely missed my foot on landing. Little bit of cardboard on those edges might prevent some tears. 2) When doing double-row timing chain, you will likely need to step the pump forward and clearance the timing cover. 3) The position of the chain on the gears doesn't really matter, but the relationship between the gears does. Dot-to-dot is good enough. 4) I'm pretty sketchy with my shit and rarely change oil pumps and timing chains, but one thing I do recommend is that cam retaining plate is replaced. It has a seal behind it that holds oil pressure, and are almost always flat. LS engines are not priority oiled, and loss of oil pressure here prevents oil pressure reaching the crank. Can't wait to see this on the road sometime, or even better, line up against it at Heathcote one day :)
@FuManchu5ltr
2 жыл бұрын
Aeroflow pickup bracket to really ensure oil pressure is solid. Costs like $30. New cam retainer plate with a fresh seal. Old ones can be compressed and you’ll chase oil pressure problems. Again, $30-$60. One hell of a good security.
@eagle-qr9di
2 жыл бұрын
Hells Bells blooper part was funny ,love that track , awesome build can't wait to see it run
@FuManchu5ltr
2 жыл бұрын
Such a fun episode to watch guys. Me and the little man watched together and he loved it. Lots of questions from him. Really stoked to see the CRC parts washer. What a great idea. The best bit about all your videos is you don’t pretend to know stuff. Totally about sharing the learning experience and that is a bit unique in the KZitems and internets.
@patnugent5248
2 жыл бұрын
Really enjoying watching you guys. You are just like the Skid Factory except they know what they're doing.
@mattangrave8478
2 жыл бұрын
Nice work fellas, glad you got a timing chain. Good on you CRC great creators to support
@charlesgalea69
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video today guys.
@dazaspc
2 жыл бұрын
I was going to say "Gap the rings" but everybody else has. A couple of other things though, perhaps a new rear main as they are easy and relatively cheap to replace when out and when you fit the oil pump make sure it is absolutely concentric to the crank. I check this with feeler gauges. Been caught once before on an LS and it cost me big. Also leave the timing cover loose until the harmonic is on to ensure it is also concentric.
@jaidenkeeys2062
2 жыл бұрын
the whole reason I am subscribing is to see how cam bearings and timing chains hold, don't let me down
@whiffyauto2108
6 ай бұрын
I’m glad I found this series haha, I’ve got a VY ss that I’ve think of turboing
@DaveHiggoHiggins
2 жыл бұрын
New sub here, going through the build now. Quick trick for the oil filter, crack it loose, then slide a large plastic cup over it and undo it to catch the oil.
@GrandPitoVic
2 жыл бұрын
Great job on deciding to replace that timing set. That smart washer you are using is great. My brother and I had a shop in the late 90's rebuildable steering parts and cv axles. Safety kleen gave us a new type parts washer they were researching and it was the enzyme parts washer. I remember it being warm. When we would do alot of parts washing and it would get really dirty we would let it set over night and the next morning when we came in to work it would be clean. That was awesome. One time it took 2 days cause we over did it. We still had our other one. Thanx for the content brother. You guys are funny.
@RocketsFishingAdventures
2 жыл бұрын
Appreciate the effort you guys put into the vids right to the closing scene. Well done.
@downtheshedwithbyron
2 жыл бұрын
Gday guys Thanks to night shift ive caught up on the last 10 videos haha loving the projects looking forward to seeing the ls turbo up and going Take it easy Byron from WA
@TorqHub
2 жыл бұрын
Double row timing chains can be a bit of a hassle boys as it very may well foul the oil pump/timing cover. We used a 'Rollmaster red' timing set on the Turbo Tonner and was a great piece. Hope you fellas have invested in a trunion upgrade for the stock rockers aswell!
@BonusChip
2 жыл бұрын
Yep. Things they don't tell you when you buy it. I've just put a double row in my ls1 turbo build and had to clearance the timing cover slightly. Not a big deal but definitely something to consider if you're going to go double row. I'm sick of buying parts that "fit" only to find out you need to customise them or something around them. Bought a steam vent kit to suit stock LS1, doesn't fit under stock LS1 intake manifold. Had to buy spacers for the manifold.
@dallascowboy23
2 жыл бұрын
That parts washer looks the business
@fossilfuelenthusiast
2 жыл бұрын
Best video in ages.
@rosswilliamsssvredline
2 жыл бұрын
Good job guys love to see you are having a great time
@MrDattopet
2 жыл бұрын
One again some good stuff to watch lads and being in isolation it helps thanks for making an effort to make these videos
@kevinhamling1963
2 жыл бұрын
G'day guys, Great video. It just goes to show if you can look at pictures (i mean able to read) you can pull apart anything. 🤯 So thanks for sharing. ✌️Peace from Pakenham.
@bradcross2
2 жыл бұрын
i saw ls turbo title and had to look coz aint no one done that before and i wasnt disappointed
@dallascowboy23
2 жыл бұрын
I was about to leave a comment half was through the video about the timing chain and you breaking the number 1 rule of "while I'm in there" but then you came to your senses.
@blakestanley5121
2 жыл бұрын
Been watching you guys for a long time now love the videos by far best series such a weapon vy ss Ute was my first Holden love it
@shaunhinton3691
2 жыл бұрын
I usually knock a hole in the oil filter with a sharpened chipping hammer to drain it 🙈🤷♂️👍
@HazeyAuto
2 жыл бұрын
The environmentally friendly parts washer sounded like a cool idea, until I saw the price… unless CRC want to sponsor me one, I’ll have to stick to my nasty solvents and clubbing seals.
@brendanrandle
2 жыл бұрын
even the fluid is $$$$ at around $250 for 20L and $50 a filter
@benkirby744
2 жыл бұрын
Hey Ben, It actually works out about the same as with the CRC unit we don't have to have anyone take the kero away. You just have to top up the Ozzy juice. Also, it's much better for your health.
@colmastro4373
2 жыл бұрын
I love how at the start of part 1 they were like "this bolt on is simple and very easy", (Proceed to take about every inch of the engine).
@ndh8445
2 жыл бұрын
You could bolt it on, they're just choosing to do some other mods etc lol
@adamheazlett1179
2 жыл бұрын
Saw your workbench on wheels radius the corners more hip friendly Shelf out of 50mm angle underneath great bench.I like 20mm plate for the top braced with 90mm x 10mm flatbar underneath but heavy and the steel for free .Had a painted ply bench outside was still good after 10 years.Budget effects so many things but thought helps us on our journey.Cheers
@cameronallan3771
2 жыл бұрын
You got 1 new subscriber looking forward to this build
@mickc8738
2 жыл бұрын
Great content so far lads👍
@michaelnoyes4817
2 жыл бұрын
While you's have it apart are you's going to hone the bores and re-ring it and do the bearing also?
@chrismallinson3349
2 жыл бұрын
You will need to grind clearance in the timing cover to fit a double row timing chain go a good quality single
@TorqHub
2 жыл бұрын
^ What he said
@shaneb9392
2 жыл бұрын
another awesome video, keep it up blokes
@rubberbandman2540
2 жыл бұрын
That cam retaining plate is ideal to replace and you need to check the end play once the new double row is fitted they run a Torrington bearing which will have some movement in it
@logantaylor3671
2 жыл бұрын
nice work. It will be a weapon when its done
@rxcosmo76
2 жыл бұрын
Nice work boys. Love your videos.
@jakeyy_wakeyy7682
2 жыл бұрын
You guys should watch haulass garage they have built a few ls motors and just slapped them together proven you can slap them together 😂 loving this build!
@TorqHub
2 жыл бұрын
The Haulass boys are great. Just shows you don't need an engineering degree to go FAST!
@Johnsmith-dj5eq
2 жыл бұрын
That far in you should gap the rings so it makes good power and stays together
@earlycommodorecommunity
2 жыл бұрын
Great video guys :o)
@driftking6553
2 жыл бұрын
I can’t wait when it spin bottom bearings lol 😂 good luck with it oil pick up is at the front it not going to last long lol mine lasted a month on 7psi at 690hp to a 6 speed manual in a vy ss Ute
@TorqHub
2 жыл бұрын
690hp @ 7psi sounds like a BIG compressor! Our turbo LS VY build has lived 2 years and nearly 10,000kms @12psi making 620hp haha
@Aaronhibbenlayh
2 жыл бұрын
awesome video
@MrVnssbt1
2 жыл бұрын
Yerrrrrrrrr new chain smart smart let’s go 👍👍👍👍👍👍😂😂😂😂😂😬
@rockbiterhd
2 жыл бұрын
What classic couldn’t hack it new chain and sprocket haha 👍🍻🍺
@K0NAK1D
2 жыл бұрын
got lucky with the cam retaining plate, i tried to torque mine and ended up cracking the plate
@dant565
2 жыл бұрын
Just subbed guys. You guys are totally relatable. This is how i do shit haha.
@jeepnutscotty
2 жыл бұрын
You guys missed a critical part… gapping the rings to suit boost…. It WILL die without it
@TorqHub
2 жыл бұрын
False...
@ThatGuy_21
2 жыл бұрын
Tell that to the 100's of stock bottom end junkyard turbo LSs lol
@clint.garage.6092
2 жыл бұрын
Probably lots of comments about this however cam retainer plate new cos if it don’t seal properly and this is common….roasted motor. Don’t change that timing chain would be very unlucky to have a problem there. Dot to dot for the cam timing sprockets has always worked for me… but don’t take my word for it as I am an idiot. Well done on the pick up o-ring another easy thing to get wrong, I wish they made those all the same blue black and green has not been idiot proof enough for me in the past unfortunately.
@object1084
2 жыл бұрын
love to do this to my 2007 SS
@LSturboguy
2 жыл бұрын
you should check ring gap with a turbo if you dont have enough it will blow the top off the piston
@magicman9962
2 жыл бұрын
There is a tool you can get to allow you to do cam bearings without removing the crank and it only takes about 10 minutes to do when using it.
@anthonywhelan8373
2 жыл бұрын
Guys make sure you spend alittle more and get new lifter trays as well and if possible upgrade those trunions on the std rockers all know to break on ls engines
@simonthornton7124
2 жыл бұрын
Hi boys. Love the channel. Best one on KZitem 👍🏻 Just a quick question, what’s happening with the sandman and the xy gt? Keep up the great work. Simon.
@HackshopGarage
2 жыл бұрын
Hey mate awesome to hear, the XY we finally have some new parts we have been waiting on arriving soon and the sandman we have a new episode coming out tomorrow
@pirateh00kar
2 жыл бұрын
Not only does the parts washer have micro organisms in it so does the LS.
@bryceybigcashews5888
2 жыл бұрын
Leaky Boi!!
@Lordofthebitumen
2 жыл бұрын
Google engine stand drip tray👍 will catch a lot of the water and gunk
@index6738
2 жыл бұрын
Mate, these things leaks oil from every crevice as they age. Sure you have major rear crank seal plate leak. Replace all gaskets and seals including barbell whilst engine is out. Thank me for it.
@stevepeters3032
2 жыл бұрын
Don't reuse the cam retainer plate. It's a one time use and the seal will be flat and may not seal.
@almstlegalgarage
2 жыл бұрын
Awesome build but Lube up your engine stand. Will make it 100 times easier to rotate the engine.
@seanb250
2 жыл бұрын
That camshaft is quite sizeable, DO NOT put the heads back together without checking coil bind heights, installed heights and retainer to seal clearance. Otherwise this will end in tears unfortunately. Also piston to valve clearances will need to be checked and I’m putting money on you needing valve reliefs cut into the pistons. Personally my opinion is that camshaft is too aggressive for what your after.
@jamiebeckf
2 жыл бұрын
I thought the same that the cam is very aggressive for a turbo build.
@andyjames2082
2 жыл бұрын
Please do the cam chain and ring gaps 🥺
@TheTigerQuoll
2 жыл бұрын
Glad you addressed the timing chain,it would have killed the fun with that nagging at the back of your mind.
@toddross7507
2 жыл бұрын
Yea I was so worried at the start when they said, we'll leave the timing chain. Glad they have decided to go for a new one
@piffiiiiiiit
2 жыл бұрын
It's no iron lion but I'm loving the content nonetheless 👍
@TorqHub
2 жыл бұрын
Long live the iron lion! ❤️
@piffiiiiiiit
2 жыл бұрын
@@TorqHub how's the 383 coming along?
@TorqHub
2 жыл бұрын
@@piffiiiiiiit ...next question? 😅
@piffiiiiiiit
2 жыл бұрын
@@TorqHub sounds like my project 😬🔫
@predatr
2 жыл бұрын
You should have shimmed the oil pump when installing.
@Hackjob-Extraordinaire
2 жыл бұрын
What? No gapple sauce on the piston rings????
@rubberbandman2540
2 жыл бұрын
If it doesn't have any then your can machine some off the cam plate
@lachlanhurst8421
2 жыл бұрын
U need a tray for the engine the engine cradle
@gazza116
2 жыл бұрын
glad you rethought the timing chain.at that mileage the rings will probably have enough gap.
@8wireracing694
Ай бұрын
Anyone watching this make sure you use a new cam retainer plate if you want oil pressure after your finished. They are 30 dollars so not worth the risk.
@boosted07rodeo14
2 жыл бұрын
no 1 rule is always replace cam bearings on an ls as they are almost always worn out, besides its a half an hour job with around a hundred dollars in parts. its a bit of a bitch with rotating ass still in the block but stiil doable in half an hour . at the end of the day oil pressure is pretty important especially with a forced induction build.
@driftking6553
2 жыл бұрын
bye bye bottom end lol
@eamonquinn70
2 жыл бұрын
Oil filter relocation kits aren’t expensive and definitely worth it. I don’t have one yet but the stock design is a shit idea and makes a simple job harder than it has to be.
@adelaideinvigilation5230
2 жыл бұрын
Never under estimate the measuring device "the Micrometer of my hand"
@davenorman8251
2 жыл бұрын
A lot of people are talking about gaping rings...If it's a worn engine and your boost is not going to exceed 15lbs don't do it. If you are going for 15+boost you should renew it all and gap 25-30 thou depending on how bigger game you are going to play...David Vizard has a really good video on ring gaps, rpm, sustained boost and nitrous...you have to allow for bed in and wear and beware of the affects of excessive blowby/ventilation on engine performance and limited life.
@stevepierce3509
2 жыл бұрын
STOP MUCKING AROUND WITH RUBBISH GUYS !!!!! Get onton the XY BUILD !!!
@rubberbandman2540
2 жыл бұрын
Boys you need to dial that camshaft in and it is a very easy process with the correct tooling if you can't get it msg me and I can arrange to lend it to you
@andrewharrison8880
2 жыл бұрын
Have a look at I DO CARS channel. He's a engine dismantler. He does plenty of ls engines. It will give you heaps of confidence when pulling upart ls's.
@adamheazlett1179
2 жыл бұрын
Just ram it in like the first time.
@lowkey_fitness
2 жыл бұрын
Don’t cut the AC
@evanboubouka3031
2 жыл бұрын
First!
@coreyr6094
2 жыл бұрын
Buy a new camera, that one sucks. Half the video is blurry
@MrVnssbt1
2 жыл бұрын
Change the chain now better wait now then do it in the car will be a mission of a job DO IT NOW or pay some one now CHANGE IT NOW
@douglasmiller8106
2 жыл бұрын
Tag me in next video please
@bert-bb4lf
2 жыл бұрын
looked up the parts washer, after I saw the price, wont be buying that. $$$
@mattcrick2156
2 жыл бұрын
Hahahaha
@trevskiinaustralia5627
2 жыл бұрын
DONT DO A HALF A JOB and bodge it, change the chain
@mgunning7362
2 жыл бұрын
I still can't take you guys serious after the slippery diff thing. Cant get it outa my head. For me, There's no coming back after that, the horse has bolted. Ide be best to just unsubscribe. Yep I'm out.
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