Living in the US it's absolutely wild how people are constantly scrutinizing transit systems and expect them to never spend more than they make back in fares, and then at the same time expect that highways go absolutely everywhere and be accessible for free.
@KRYMauL
Жыл бұрын
Then if Amtrak becomes a real estate developer they get all angry about communism. Like wtf.
@wilburbrickowski
Жыл бұрын
Public transit isn't safe.
@Racko.
Жыл бұрын
Ppl in the US usually hate transit because all of these corrupt elites and lobbyist have convinced them that transit will always suck
@Supwes12
Жыл бұрын
@@wilburbrickowski driving is less safe.
@XMysticHerox
Жыл бұрын
@@wilburbrickowski If you are that worried about other people I hope you are consistent and never leave your house.
@SaveMoneySavethePlanet
Жыл бұрын
Speaking of people not realizing that highways are free: I recently did an analysis of the cost of a light rail vs the cost of a freeway. BUT I baked in the price of every citizen having to purchase, maintain, and fuel a car in order to use the freeway. When you look at it this way, the cost of the freeway is waaaaaay more expensive than the cost of the train.
@vinniezcenzo
Жыл бұрын
Yeah people don't factor in that highways just privatize the costs of driving and vehicles. Public transportation will inherently cost more because those factors will be in the cost due to operator wages/vehicles. People don't consider that their time or their cars as a part of the cost of a highway.
@dwavenminer
Жыл бұрын
@@vinniezcenzo On top of that, people really seem to forget to account for the cost of maintance, repair and eventual replacement of thier car...not to mention the fines (parking/speeding/etc.) they'll eventually get on top of that...
@JarrodBaniqued
Жыл бұрын
That analysis is a very good video by the way, do check it out: kzitem.info/news/bejne/sn2ZqqaHkXeHY6A Also, what the hell went on in the replies here? What, do you even like having to schlep a metric ton of metal, rubber, battery acid and fossil fuel around with you everywhere you go, and you can’t even lie back, read the news, talk to people from other socioeconomic classes, or watch the scenery (which would now just be expanses of asphalt)? (Same problem with self-driving cars, by the way.) Also, if you want to privatize the passenger railroads and transit agencies, well then, good luck with being able to make an easy transfer, and especially expecting a consistent fare…and don’t get me or Alan started on freight oligopolies and train traffic priority in the US.
@adambooth1908
Жыл бұрын
People are willing to pay more for freedom of movement. I can get in my car and drive at any time, if I take a train somewhere, I have to coordinate my schedule with the schedule of the train. People realize trains in this country are filthy and unreliable, making them less likely to want to use one for their primary transportation.
@kaiservonpanzer213
Жыл бұрын
@@adambooth1908 You say it like it’s an inherent issue with transit in general which is usually not the case. Transit in other places is highly frequent and isn’t filthy.
@NotJustBikes
Жыл бұрын
YES!! Just build the fucking trains already!!
@yijhebsldiv3gyxi88
Жыл бұрын
Cars are very gae
@ianhomerpura8937
Жыл бұрын
@Zaydan Alfariz just curious though. Would the recent earthquake at Cianjur impact the opening of the KCIC next year? Also, given that Cianjur is a major stop for the current Jakarta-Bandung rail line, would KAI prioritize rebuilding those quake hit lines?
@dogguy8603
Жыл бұрын
Then you can pay for it
@goose6112
11 ай бұрын
I thought you said we should give up on America
@The_king567
10 ай бұрын
No don’t
@awinnett
Жыл бұрын
As a Californian, I cannot wait to ride my high speed train.
@alquinn8576
Жыл бұрын
some day, your grandkids may ride it!
@awinnett
Жыл бұрын
@@alquinn8576 sure. But I plan to ride in it with my kids since it is scheduled to be completed by 2033.
@alquinn8576
Жыл бұрын
@@awinnett yes, "scheduled"
@travl8138
Жыл бұрын
Even Laos has one lmao
@alquinn8576
Жыл бұрын
@@travl8138 Laos spent (well, borrowed from China) >30% of GDP to build 250mi of HSR. Not sure if that one's going to pay off!
@knosis
Жыл бұрын
Way to remind me about the whole Nashville transit debacle. I live here, and it is such a shame. This city could easily be transformed by proper transportation and knocking down a few highways (i40 and i65) within city limits. There is so much potential here, but I must drive my Carolla to places, wasting time and gas in traffic and going to big box stores. Not a fan. I ride my bike as much as possible, for whatever that's worth.
@ianhomerpura8937
Жыл бұрын
The Koch Brothers are still active in trying to block railway projects across the US. They weren't successful in blocking the light rail in Phoenix, so they're now influencing the local councils at neighboring Scottsdale and Gilbert by igniting very fierce NIMBY sentiments.
@dashamm98
Жыл бұрын
oh yeah. didn't the Koch Brothers kill that?
@MilwaukeeF40C
Жыл бұрын
The best thing that can be done for transit is to privatize all limited access highways (interstates) as tollways, and to defund other roads and STOP SUBSIDIZING SUBURBAN GROWTH WITH PUBLIC DEBT.
@MilwaukeeF40C
Жыл бұрын
Why do people get so worked up about the Kochs?
@kaicandoit
Жыл бұрын
Yeah even in a design competition a few months back (although I was not apart of it, a few buddies of mine were and I helped guide them) in Nashville, the judges essentially didn't let a single team go forward in finals that proposed deconstructing highways as an alternative. The pro-car, anti-innovation mentality irked me to the point where its making me ask how architects, the people who are supposed to be innovative and future thinkers, still get stuck on how cars should be prioritized. Mind you, one of the many reasons to removing a 2 mile, unnecessary stretch of highway was to re-unite two neighborhoods that were intentionally segregated over 50 years ago. But 'feasibility' was not possible in a city literally built like a giant highway.
@napoleonibonaparte7198
Жыл бұрын
Create an advocacy group that watches highway costs, and the moment they go over-budget, spread the news loudly and fast like wildfire.
@MilwaukeeF40C
Жыл бұрын
There are groups including fiscal conservatives.
@squelchedotter
Жыл бұрын
Nobody cares because it's cars
@jsrodman
Жыл бұрын
it's a worthy idea, but the media environment is so slanted that it won't spread.
@GenericUrbanism
Жыл бұрын
Strong towns kinda does this.
@ryanfraley7113
Жыл бұрын
@@MilwaukeeF40C True. But the media is incentivized to ignore it. Why do you think that is? Could it be due to advertisers connected to the oil industrial complex? I don’t know for sure but I sure could see it.
@mnx4681
Жыл бұрын
Bro, I hate that people in the US believe that cars are the only way to travel and put so LITTLE scrutiny on 3 decade behind schedule Interstate highways but put so MUCH scrutiny in transit projects like the CA High Speed Railway.
@ronclark9724
Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately California HSR thus far has been the largest BOONDOGGLE in American history... Over tripled its original projected costs at the referendum without not even one mile built and put into operation after nearly two decades... If this doesn't qualify as a BOONDOGGLE, nothing will! And guess what, a HSR train will NOT be operating on any segment during the next decade either...
@Chill_Bell
Жыл бұрын
Bro why the number 69???
@superbrownsheep3777
Жыл бұрын
And THIS, THIS, IS WHY TRANSIT IS DYING IN THE US! BECAUSE IT’S CAR OVER TRANSIT
@ae9074
Жыл бұрын
We have driven 3 trillion miles since 1950s, only 10 million rail passengers a year, even airlines have 850 million a year. Until you have the passengers it doesn’t make sense. It’s an utter waste of money. No roi in it. 😊
@SuperBuildsInMC
Жыл бұрын
@@ae9074What do you think we did in the US *before* the interstate system was buit? You know they have to build it to use it.
@MGIC21
Жыл бұрын
Americans when a highway is built in their neighborhood: 😌 Americans when a railway is built in their neighborhood: 👁️👄👁️
@TheRandCrews
Жыл бұрын
Having trains go through fields and backyards is more calmer than highways too
@sanchorim8014
Жыл бұрын
Highways get their share of protests from locals. But on a whole, they are more resilient than railroads.
@creaturexxii
Жыл бұрын
Fun fact, my grandma's friend literally has a railway track in his backyard. He lives along Ioco Rd in Port Moody in British Columbia, Canada along an industrial route where trains would transport goods to the refineries along the coast. The trains aren't frequent, at most a few times a week, but when I was eight a saw a train pass right behind his backyard and I found it interesting.
@wilburbrickowski
Жыл бұрын
Highways are more useful than trains.
@LongIslandCityLayout
Жыл бұрын
That's just a lie. People who unfortunately live near highways don't love them. Nobody who lives near highways wants them in their backyard or wants them expanded.
@eftalanquest
Жыл бұрын
speaking of over budget: here in germany EVERY SINGLE ONE of the post reunification rail construction projects was or is heavily over budget but once the projects were finished and started showing their worth people stopped giving a shit and enjoyed the ride
@nubreed13
Жыл бұрын
The light rail in Seattle was very over budget but it gets tons of riders every day. It's also faster than driving through the most crowded part of the city every day.
@MilwaukeeF40C
Жыл бұрын
Germany and Europe have bigger fiat currency problems.
@no_name4796
Жыл бұрын
Here in italy we always go over budget and we always complain about the shitty service 😉
@buckdaman8493
Жыл бұрын
Amen to this . This is what will happen in CA
@gulagkid799
Жыл бұрын
there isn't much to enjoy with DB (Delay Bahn) lol unless you are not in a rush.
@Robert0Pirie
Жыл бұрын
The wildest thing I've ever heard about a tranist project from a politcian was the govenor of Louisiana saying that he would back any plan to build a lightrail connecting the capitol Baton Rouge to the state's largest city New Orleans. Downtown to downtown, they are separated by 100 miles. Obviously he meant he'd back a regional rail system, but it's still funny to think about the Bayou State unironically constructing the world's longest tram line.
@MilwaukeeF40C
Жыл бұрын
That would be an interurban. The longest were in the 100 mile range.
@jmckenzie962
Жыл бұрын
@@MilwaukeeF40C Fuck yeah, interurbans were one of the most fascinating things to read about for me when learning about American rail systems. Down here in NZ we never even had things like those. An interurban revival in the US and the construction of similar systems in places in NZ would be awesome.
@ThunderTheBlackShadowKitty
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, he's the only good governor in the entire Deep South U.S, all the other Dixie governors suck. God bless him for expanding the medical weed program in this state.
@venticuiliar9136
Жыл бұрын
God, if only... I live in Louisiana and have to go between New Orleans and Baton Rouge all the time for work and other activities. It's such a PITA to have to drive between them on I-10 every time I need to do so... such a terrible stretch of interstate
@ThunderTheBlackShadowKitty
Жыл бұрын
@@venticuiliar9136 New Orleans and Baton Rouge ironically have such good bones to build off of, because they were built before cars. It'd be surprisingly easy to build a train there if you had the budget, and it would make travel there so easy. But no, we live with a bunch of car-brained boomer rednecks and can't have nice things.
@audiencemember26008
Жыл бұрын
The biggest benefit of riding the shinkansen is not: 1: No check-in, security check time wasted as when catching flight. 2: It delivering you directly to city centers. 3: Enjoying a beer while travelling. 4: Staring longingly at Mt. Fuji as you pass it (instead of staring at the road) while enjoying your beer. No, the biggest benefit of riding the shinkansen is... the leg room.
@maycherryblossoms
Жыл бұрын
Yess~~ you can literally show up like five minutes before your train departs and just scan your ticket in the machine, or have enough time to have a coffee/tea or noodles at one of the many little restaurants and cafes that stations tend to have
@konokiomomuro7632
Жыл бұрын
Leg room at definitely lower cost than business flight? Sold!
@ronclark9724
Жыл бұрын
Japan is a TINY nation compared to America. Nearly two thirds of Japan's population is within the original Shinkansen route of less than 300 miles very suitable for HSR. That is less than the distance from Dallas to San Antonio along I-35 in Texas. Never mind the rest of the USA...
@TheAmericanCatholic
Жыл бұрын
@@ronclark9724 we are not bringing bullet trains to Wyoming or Alaska we are first wanting to brig high quality high speed rail that’s better than the Amtrak northeast corridor currently is. Extending the north east corridor all the way to Florida then Brightline can take the rest is a great idea . Building HSR In populated routes is a good idea.
@ianhomerpura8937
Жыл бұрын
@@ronclark9724 Tokyo to Fukuoka is basically as long as Boston to Raleigh. You can't be serious that you can't build a high speed rail line like that.
@ChronicAndIronic
Жыл бұрын
Military has the same issue with contractors. Our own engineers that we train and give schooling for don’t get to do a lot of work so we can get companies like NAVFAC to repair everything instead. It’s awful and a waste of our budget, and the contractor incompetence literally burned down one of our ships, billions down the drain!
@ianhomerpura8937
Жыл бұрын
If only they utilized the Army Corps of Engineers like what they did in Louisiana post-Katrina, they would be able to do the job SO MUCH FASTER.
@professorspark2361
Жыл бұрын
NAVFAC is part of the Navy though...
@xmlthegreat
Жыл бұрын
Do you mean the Bonnie Dick?
@lesbianesti
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, what a waste, and all just to go and kill innocent people abroad. Let's spend zero on the military instead.
@I_Am_Empyrean
Жыл бұрын
Private companies should be outlawed from lobbying or otherwise engaging in any form of political activity. They're not people and even less so citizens. If these large stockholders want to throw money at politicians for corrupt and immoral laws then they can do so from beyond the veil of anonymity.
@matthewmenendez6981
Жыл бұрын
A reminder that before Brightline, Rick Scott personally killed a high-speed rail connection between Tampa and Orlando and was later found to have many close (albeit not incriminating) financial ties to Brightline.
@rishabhanand4973
Жыл бұрын
i'm pretty sure in wisconsin, there was a high speed rail project, paid for, trains purchased, and fully approved and ready to go before scott walker just straight up canceled it
@matuskriska8361
Жыл бұрын
@@MilwaukeeF40C please stop commenting your libertarian nonsense under every comment
@MrPomo2
Жыл бұрын
@@rishabhanand4973 Fortunately in the last mid term election, Walker's Lt Governor (Rebecca Kleefisch), was defeated in the primary and the Republican candidate (Michels), who actually lives in Connecticut, was defeated in the general election. Republican US senator Ron Johnson (who spends most of his time at his villa in Florida) won.
@ianhomerpura8937
Жыл бұрын
@@rishabhanand4973 and now the trains have been purchased by the Nigerian Government.
@TohaBgood2
Жыл бұрын
@@MilwaukeeF40C Brightline is privately owned but publicly funded. Up to 90% of just the cost of their station construction is direct government subsidy and 100% of their planned profits is from real estate allowances that the government gave them. If it’s still 100% subsidized then why give the resulting infrastructure to a private company? If we’re paying for it anyway then how come some hedge fund gets to keep the things they bought with our money? What you are in favor of is essentially socialism, but for people who are already rich!
@buckdaman8493
Жыл бұрын
CA high speed rail will serve as the backbone allowing tons of regional and private rail projects to fill in the blanks between where it ends and where the demand is like San Diego and other areas. This is why building the Central Valley first as boring as it may be , was the right move. It’s going to change California in amazing ways … live in Bakersfield and work in LA? Maybe 🤔 Nobody will remember the cost once they are all on a nice rail car enjoying a beer and the scenery , saving time and money.
@MilwaukeeF40C
Жыл бұрын
Nobody will invest in private infrastructure until competition is no longer subsidized.
@Racko.
Жыл бұрын
CA High speed rail when complete while absolutely destroy the flights between LA-SF because of competition, similar to Madrid Barcelona Route
@angelmendez2211
Жыл бұрын
People also forget that bakersfield and fresno are big cities on their own too, and this could jumpstart a new boom for them.
@buckdaman8493
Жыл бұрын
@@angelmendez2211 and they need it !
@mikeydude750
Жыл бұрын
@@Racko. God we can only hope. I absolutely despise flying between LA and SF and would literally rather drive that distance than fuck around with the airports for a sub-hour flight
@dimasakbar7668
Жыл бұрын
Remind the people that in short intrastate transport, you can: 1. Drink alcohol, unlike while driving; 2. Carry arms on your person, unlike in airplane 3. Sleep.
@ooogabooga4836
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, you can read something. Do a lot in that time, rather than sit in you silly car.
@rams_r_champs
Жыл бұрын
4. Be on your personal devices or read books 5. Look around at the scenery
@AA_cowgomoo
Жыл бұрын
6. Don't have to deal with traffic and road rage
@slimshady6359
Жыл бұрын
@@rams_r_champs 7) you have some smelly old wino sitting next to you.8) you can enjoy somebody else's kids screaming at the top of their lungs 9) you can add some crazy drunk gang banger giving you the LA county look 10) you can catch the vid by the guy in the seat next to you that's coughing the whole way... 11) you're out the door at 3:00 a.m. to catch the transit and try to make it to work by 6:00 when if you had your own car you could leave at say 5:30 and be there with 10 minutes to spare to grab a cup of coffee before you start your shift.
@AA_cowgomoo
Жыл бұрын
@@slimshady6359 My brother takes train to Angel's game. Amtrak you can drink Metro you can't.
@alric8
Жыл бұрын
Just want to point out that the issue of rail lines getting uniquely and unfairly heavy scrutiny is not unique to the US or countries that generally lack rail infrastructure, see e.g. the huge uproar about HS2 in the UK or Stuttgart 21 in Germany Edit: I encourage people to look at the replies to my comment if they want hilariously telling proof of my point!
@cyri96
Жыл бұрын
or, on the matter of Germany, the the connecting Routes for the Gotthard base tunnel in Switzerland and brenner base tunnel in Austria, which Germany contractually promides to build, in the first case decades ago, but hasn't even started
@quayzar1
Жыл бұрын
In the UK there were even environmental activist protesting and trying to sabotage HS2.
@tomendruweit9386
Жыл бұрын
In germany we complain about all over budget things on principle. or do i need tor emind you of the berlin airport or the A44 in north hessen? We dont like spending money period. Also, germany has a lot of public transit. but it deteriorated in quality since its half privatised (thanks cdu)
@xxrockraiderxx
Жыл бұрын
Honestly the HS2 thing is so damned infuriating. They've gone above and beyond to make sure that HS2 is a good infrastructure project with fully thought out benefits, and yet the greenwashing campaigners only ever care about stopping it, but never RIS2 despite RIS2 A) costing more, B) destroying more woodland, and C) not doing archealogical digs before starting construction like HS2 had to do. Why do roads get a pass on all the hoops that rail infrastructure has to jump through to prove itself useful?
@Vysair
Жыл бұрын
ECRL in Malaysia. The issues talk about is no longer about it being a mainland china project, the issues is environmental impact and bla bla bla woke bs
@ripred42
Жыл бұрын
Fun fact about the Shinkansen. The rail bureaucrat who proposed it knew it would cost more, but lowballed because he had a trump card. The project was funded partially from a world bank development loan, which stipulated that the funds must only be used for the project, and the project must be seen to completion. Once the truth came out, he was disgraced but the politicians had no choice and had to finish the project. He was of course vindicated in the end and the government built many more lines. Edit: for anyone curious, the guy is Shinji Sogo. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shinji_Sog%C5%8D
@MilwaukeeF40C
Жыл бұрын
The world bank and IMF stuff never should have existed.
@Amir-jn5mo
Жыл бұрын
Damn what a gigachad. Sacrificed his career to get the best transit line built.
@kornkernel2232
Жыл бұрын
@@Amir-jn5mo Hes basically went "I told you so" and Japan got one of the best transport in the world, even ever.
@elliotcowell3139
Жыл бұрын
And they all lived happily ever faster
@rainbowrailroadcrossing7798
Жыл бұрын
High speed train W’s for decades
@MelShibson
Жыл бұрын
Our relationship with trains in this country is terrible. Most of my childhood I didn't know people could ride trains. I thought they were only for transporting goods bc those are the only kinds of trains we have where I live.
@davidty2006
Жыл бұрын
Oof. Makes britain look good yet we complain about ours all the time.
@Mgameing123
Жыл бұрын
@@davidty2006 the UK is shit aswell.
@davidty2006
Жыл бұрын
@@Mgameing123 Atleast we beat the US.
@naverilllang
Жыл бұрын
@@davidty2006 I'd congratulate you on getting to dunk on us, but we've set the bar so low that it'd be like congratulating an athlete for beating up a double amputee with Asperger's
@dillonkeller4477
Жыл бұрын
That's how it should be. Passenger trains are obsolete.
@Avionicx
Жыл бұрын
Yeah I was waiting for the Shinkansen reference. The head of JNR resigned over the backlash, yet they kept at it. They tunneled and blasted through mountains 500 kilometers building a train in the 1960s. And now what? The economy shot up, jobs increased, and everyone in the world started to emulate Japan in building high speed rail. Everyone looks at Japan at the golden example of good high speed rail. It's fast, reliable, punctual, comfortable, connects the country well and it's affordable. CHSR is truly America's shinkansen project. They just need to get their heads down and build the damn thing.
@MilwaukeeF40C
Жыл бұрын
Actually the Shinkansen along with other public expenditures are regarded as having contributed to the "lost decade" of monetary problems and economic stagnation, which is now the lost 30 years and going. The Shinkansen was very connected with private sector clout and not real democratic. Something like it would not be done in a place like California with all of its downtrodden factions claiming oppression because something would be done a certain way. Everyone wanted a piece of CAHSR and it turned in to a cluster.
@TohaBgood2
Жыл бұрын
@@MilwaukeeF40C No it didn’t. A bunch of Republican dark money groups sued the crap out of the project over key land parcels so that they could engineer cascading delays and cost overruns. They were hoping that the public would get discouraged by the increased costs and just cancel the project. It worked for a couple of years, but this was always just a delaying tactic. The public refused to budge and the project’s popularity has actually _increased_ since the 2008 bond referendum on CAHSR. The dark money groups basically ran away with their tail between their legs to oppose other projects like Texas Central. CAHSR just continued plowing forward and are now on track to complete construction on the first three sections by next year. Newsom announced two more extensions in 2019 and those are already fully approved, fully funded, and in active pre-construction. The project is doing pretty good now actually. KZitem is full of drone shots with completed strictures and raised guideway. The villains lost in this case, surprisingly.
@mohammedsarker5756
Жыл бұрын
@@MilwaukeeF40C no dude, the lost decade was caused by japan's falling birth rate and the Asian financial crash along with stagnation in their tech sector, shinkansen predated the crisis by 20 years. Get your facts straight
@MilwaukeeF40C
Жыл бұрын
Japan is still paying off original debt from the Shinkansen. All of these things contribute to financial problems decades later.
@Amir-jn5mo
Жыл бұрын
@@MilwaukeeF40C politicians and claiming Japan is dying due to no positive gdp. Think of it this way, average Japanese person experienced no inflation for past 30 years. Politicians can call it failure and lost decade all they want. I see it as a chad stable 3 decades.
@ideadlift20kg83
Жыл бұрын
Imagine how amazing tourism would be in the U.S if it had a good high-speed rail network across it.
@Treblaine
Жыл бұрын
A high speed rail across the US would be incredibly wasteful. Low speed rail works when stuffed to the gunnals with goods that you can make far more money off than passengers who won't pay much for such slow travel.
@BarackLesnar
Жыл бұрын
make money lol
@critiqueofthegothgf
Жыл бұрын
@@Treblaine you didnt even say anything in your comment.
@Jinkypigs
Жыл бұрын
@@TreblaineLOL. Enabling movememt of prople within your country is wasteful? LOL. You usa-ian are so stockholmed and mindless that you don't even know that you are simping for those who are working against your own interest.
@Rover.M07
Жыл бұрын
@@Treblaine high speed rail will replace the airline company They have benefit like better seat than plane In my 3rd world train its better option if you cant afford plane ticket (its expensive) Airline just for faster option For long travel we have option car,bus,motorcycle,train,plane For travel to another island airline and sealine
@dwavenminer
Жыл бұрын
8:35 "Keep your workers and move to the next project" Also applies to the energy sector too...alot of countries *could* have learned from France, (As a Brit I am cuturally required to dislike the French...but when they're right, they're right) where they build aload of nuclear power plants, one after the after, with the same design, expect for improvements they figured out while builing them...sure its boring, but the last thing you ever want is an 'interesting' nuclear power plant...like Chernobyl...
@rjfaber1991
Жыл бұрын
That's what they've been doing with high-speed rail as well. There has never been a pause in LGV construction in France, because as soon as one project is nearing completion, they have already started the next. That's how they've ended up with arguably the best high-speed rail infrastructure in the world (I know people will bring up Japan, but the different track gauges severely limit where Shinkansen services can actually go, a problem TGV services don't have).
@KRYMauL
Жыл бұрын
I mean the French suck, but they sometimes have good ideas. TGV was not one of them because once again it’s too expensive, but apparently it’s the only way to build rail as the infrastructure owned by the US rail companies isn’t going to be upgraded anytime soon.
@ianhomerpura8937
Жыл бұрын
This is why building new nuclear power plants like the two new reactors at Vogtle must be done side by side with high speed rail. Both go hand in hand and will benefit the economy in the long run.
@ClockworksOfGL
Жыл бұрын
Yes, although there’s also risk in putting all the eggs in one basket. A large number of France’s reactors have recently been shut down because of corrosion, so defects can also be duplicated.
@davidty2006
Жыл бұрын
Applies to any sector really. UK is sure one of them thats forgot how to build railways. With nearly a 20 year gap between HS 1 and HS 2.
@apacheking7256
Жыл бұрын
the genuine rage toward our degraded infrastructure is why im subbed.
@apacheking7256
Жыл бұрын
and the ethical finance tips
@murphy7801
Жыл бұрын
I came to laugh at USA infrastructure, I stayed because I felt bad for you guys
@MrMarinus18
Жыл бұрын
Commercial companies always try to scrape the bottom when it comes to expenses. They want to make profit. There isn't so much a national sentiment about having a good transport system.
@mushyroom9569
Жыл бұрын
The naked whataboutism is why I’m not.
@apacheking7256
Жыл бұрын
@@MrMarinus18 the problem with that though is the us in general being 80% commercial
@bryanCJC2105
Жыл бұрын
There is also a bias against transit in the US because it's seen as for the poor who deserve only the most basic and minimal expenditure. In most countries, transit is seen as a benefit for the whole society and thus enjoys more support.
@ianhomerpura8937
Жыл бұрын
Which is just weird. They want to pay peanuts to factory and service industry workers and yet force them to waste even more money on cars to keep them poor.
@TohaBgood2
Жыл бұрын
@@ianhomerpura8937 Weird? No no, that’s intentional!
@TohaBgood2
Жыл бұрын
That’s the latest propaganda weapon that the anti-transit right is using! First they make sure to make transit a poor-only service, like welfare. Then they vilify it with the non-poor population and get them to cancel it because now it’s just an “entitlement” for the poor. Tactically, this is a pretty brilliant strategy! A ton of even very leftie and theoretically well-meaning local governments get fooled by this all the time. They are encouraged to subsidize and tailor their public services for the poor. That’s a good thing, right? More services for poor people, yay! And then it turns out that no one except the poor use the service (which was specifically tailored for that group of customers and is most attractive and useful to them.) And then, bam! 80-90% of the population supports cutting that service _because they never use it_! Devious crap, but it works like a charm! In a very bad and dangerous way.
@franknwogu4911
Жыл бұрын
This is true, the reason the subway in NYC hasn't been yanked out is because investor and other business men frequent this transportation to get around.
@mohammedsarker5756
Жыл бұрын
The NYC subway system is the great equalizer of our fine city. Only here will you see an investment banker, a middle-class college student and a blue-collar worker ride side by side to their respective activities.
@bibby3027
Жыл бұрын
Breaking the status quo is hard but as long as the project is effective and provides a good service it’s really only a function of time. I live in Miami and a couple years ago all the brightline media coverage was “multi billion dollar murder train” “another pedestrian killed by high speed rail” Now it’s slowly but steadily shifting to “Brightline reaches record ridership with new aventura station” “Brightline ridership triples in 2022” Still have those stupid murder train articles but most people understand that its the people’s fault and not the train.
@leonpaelinck
Жыл бұрын
damn there also must be lot's of articles about murder cars
@RalphBarbagallo
Жыл бұрын
Most people I know that complain about the California High Speed Rail project have never been on high speed rail in any other country. They think it's like flying Southwest or something. I just got back from Italy and the Italo bullet train is awesome. Just as awesome as the high speed rail I've been on in Japan, China, and Taiwan. Once this project is complete, it's going to transform California.
@LMB222
Жыл бұрын
Once the CHSR is up, and Caltrain gets electrified, California is going to be something a class better.
@MrTim-ez2qd
Жыл бұрын
If fares shoot up and people don't use it it'll serve as a nice blow to high speed rail in the US
@AngelloDelNorte
Жыл бұрын
You have too much hope for California. The states are unstable/incompetent and ppl constantly ruin good projects.
@ImWatchingYou69
Жыл бұрын
@@AngelloDelNorte right? I like the idea of it. But there's a reason people talk shit. Californian politicians are inept, corrupt tards lol
@TohaBgood2
Жыл бұрын
@@AngelloDelNorte Lol, what parallel reality do you hail from? California recently became the world’s 4th largest economy after Passing Germany! Freaking Germany! We have a $100 billions dollar surplus and our economy grows about twice faster than Texas, Florida, and even China. We’re on track to pass Japan for 3rd largest economy in less than a decade. Yes, everything is expensive here including construction, because our wages are insane. Yes, we take forever with environmental and other reviews and any member of an impacted community can prevent projects from negatively impacting them. This is exactly by design. We don’t want people, especially poor people, to get steamroller so that some rich dude can build another oil refinery in their neighborhood.
@dressupgeekout
Жыл бұрын
Lifelong Californian here. You don't know how much bad press and angry comments in news articles I've seen about the CA high speed rail project. So much negativity, and -- most teeth-gnashing of all, for me personally -- people asserting that it doesn't solve any problems and no one is gonna ride it anyway. I have no idea which planet they're living on, because virtually everyone I know IRL will ride the HECK outta this thing. I know I will, and I know I would have back when I was a college student. The amount of exchange between Norcal and Socal is NOT negligible -- the more options we have to link the two regions, the better. Whatever it takes!
@TohaBgood2
Жыл бұрын
The NorCal-SoCal travel corridor is now literally the busiest in the country! (It used to be the second busiest for decades). And the San Joaquins, the train that CAHSR is replacing, is the 5th most popular rail route in the country! Sometimes I think that the entire opposition to this project is 100% astroturf. I know for a fact that most of it is, but perhaps it’s just all astroturf. That will explain the ridiculous, disconnected from reality claims that the opposition is making. I mean, who even believes those clowns?
@VestedUTuber
Жыл бұрын
@@TohaBgood2 It _is_ 100% astroturf. Politicians on both sides of the isle have investments companies involved in the oil and automotive industries (including BEV companies like TESLA and Rimic) and ones involved in the construction and maintenance of the interstate system, like the concrete industry. And in airlines and commercial aircraft manufacturers. And more cars on the road means more possibilities for tickets due to speeding and parking violations as well. It's all a matter of money.
@TohaBgood2
Жыл бұрын
@@VestedUTuber We just need more public pressure for this thing to be built! These people easily forget who they work for if we keep quiet for too long!
@Ironclad17
Жыл бұрын
I just see people getting routinely mugged.
@TohaBgood2
Жыл бұрын
@@Ironclad17 Where? Plus, nobody gets mugged on the San Joaquins which this train is supposed to replace. What makes you think that CAHSR will be anything but bougie, Acela-type service?
@97nelsn
Жыл бұрын
Funny how transit cost overruns made Governor Christie cancel the ARC tunnel yet the LIRR is about to open East Side Access and NJ could’ve already had their second tunnel built and operating by now.
@mohammedsarker5756
Жыл бұрын
Chris Christie is the same dumbass who intentionally caused a traffic issue (Bridgegate) in order to blame a democratic mayor so go figure. Total idiot of a governor
@MarloSoBalJr
Жыл бұрын
Didn't he also intentionally caused a false construction project on the GW Bridge where... nothing was actually done
@ThunderTheBlackShadowKitty
Жыл бұрын
That's what happens when your governor is a far-right Republican boomer. They fundamentally oppose anything that would help the common man.
@97nelsn
Жыл бұрын
@@MarloSoBalJr yup, and he closed the bridge all b/c the mayor of Fort Lee refused to endorse Christie for his re-election and the crazy part is that he ended up winning re-election.
@JamesSmith-ij8nj
Жыл бұрын
And where did ARC go? Was it designed to integrate into the existing system or just dead end?
@SupremeLeaderKimJong-un
Жыл бұрын
Another thing that leads to scrutiny is how many US transit projects are half-assed and rarely used because they are (though this is the result of governments not doing enough). The Q-Line on Detroit is an example of this: just happens to stop short of many (poorer) residential areas along Woodward and runs slower than most busses because it has to run in mixed traffic. And since the only other transit in Detroit is the People Mover, it doesn't integrate well with the transit in the city. Perhaps if the Amtrak station next to it had more commuter service it could be more useful getting into downtown, or at least more lines radiating well out of downtown and into other neighborhoods.
@alex-dj3of
Жыл бұрын
Look at Canada's trains
@ronclark9724
Жыл бұрын
@@alex-dj3of I still don't see a Canadian intercity train running from Calgary to Edmonton or Saskatoon to Regina. Where are they? Nor does Canada have a single paved highway running to its Arctic coast. Nunavut is still waiting for a deep water port it was promised nearly three decades ago. No wonder its Arctic is underdeveloped...
@TheAlwards
Жыл бұрын
Indeed, public transit planners could look to the shining record of our highway, street and road planners, who have built such an efficient and low-cost world of beautiful suburbs, lovely industrial parks and delightful parking lots everywhere, with never a traffic jam, ever. When I'm forced to spend 45 minutes in a car to reach work 18 miles away, I cry tears of gratitude to the mental giants who built the beautiful stroads and jammed freeways we enjoy today. My house is so wonderful. I wish I could get home before dark to actually see my yard on weekdays.
@hata6290
Жыл бұрын
hello kim
@hugoboyce9648
Жыл бұрын
Great video as always! While I certainly agree that excessive contracting is a plague, I disagree with "avoid contractors at all cost". Modern engineering works are extremely complex and the flexiblity of *some* subcontracting is necessary. For example, if a super specialized piece of equipment is worth several millions, and is to be used once or twice in the project, it may not make sense to purchase it, but rather subcontract the job to people who do only that but across multiple projects.
@TohaBgood2
Жыл бұрын
Yep! Complex modern systems are basically impossible without a ton of contracting. I like Alan and he’s usually right, but his weird anti-contractor fetish is off the mark. Any system is gameable and griftable. If anything, a highly vertically-integrated one without contractors is more so than a highly decentralized one relying on contractors. At least he’s right on all the rest!
@neilgwynne5158
Жыл бұрын
You need intelligent clients, you cannot outsource that capability, that's part of the issue
@mohammedsarker5756
Жыл бұрын
i think it'd be more accurate to say avoid CONSULTANTS rather than contractors and specifically private equity firms with no real knowledge of rail. If we truly want rail to succeed in America we should hire SNCF TGV or one of the Japanese railroad firms to come help give us technical advice
@compdude100
Жыл бұрын
@@TohaBgood2 The thing is, the design work for a project CAN be done in-house. DOTs do it for every highway project. The don't hire a consulting firm to do the design and engineering to build a road. Only small cities do that for road projects.
@compdude100
Жыл бұрын
@@mohammedsarker5756 yes exactly
@henrygibbons2354
Жыл бұрын
“Electric cars and other technobullshit is not going to save us…” Love your irreverent take. Let’s build, baby, build!
@jonahmoran3751
6 ай бұрын
Trains... electric trains will save us. Not electric cars.
@jamescoe4765
3 ай бұрын
@@jonahmoran3751 Save us from what? What are you afraid of?
@ryanfraley7113
Жыл бұрын
Alan, I think everyone here would be super intrigued by I-69 as a separate video. The costs of building that road are insane. It’s also very much not needed, existing roads mostly cover any need I-69 has.
@royellis752
Жыл бұрын
No, existing roads do no
@MilwaukeeF40C
Жыл бұрын
Existing state and U.S. highway routes were great before any of the Interstates we're built.
@kms1.62
Жыл бұрын
New intercity Interstates just seem wasteful at this point. Maybe I am wrong about a few city pairs, but rail upgrades, for both freight and passenger can do the same thing without encouraging more sprawl from sea to shining sea.
@busaf95
Жыл бұрын
@Bushrod Rust Johnson The US and State Hwy systems did not adequately service the whole country in a uniform way with uniform standards, not to mention there was something called the Cold War that drove a need to be able to move material, arms, and people across the country in bulk fast that wasn't available before the Interstate system.
@PColumbus73
Жыл бұрын
I'm a bit of a geek about road and transportation projects. One major problem with I-69, and a lot of newer interstate projects (I-73, I-14, and others I can't think of at the moment) have their routes written into law by Congress. Meaning by law, Interstate 69 (and others like it) HAVE to serve X, Y, and Z states regardless of if they are economically viable. With Interstate 73, and the Interstate 74 extension eastward, the road has been planned from the Canadian border in Michigan down to Myrtle Beach, SC, and that was decided in the late 90s, early 2000s. By 2022, only North Carolina has built any portion of I-73/74. I-73 is effectively dead in Michigan and Ohio because it's seen as not necessary, it's unclear if it will be built in West Virginia, it 'might' be built in Virginia. South Carolina (specifically Myrtle Beach) wants it bad, but the state doesn't have the funds, and it seems that I-73 isn't much of a priority in South Carolina. What has really annoyed me about these new interstate projects is that lawmakers, either in Congress or at the state or local level, view building an Interstate in their region as an 'economic development tool' rather than a transportation link. Meaning, that Congress and other legislators believe that building an Interstate will magically bring jobs to their area, regardless of if an Interstate would be appropriate in the area. And in my opinion, writing an interstate and it's route into law is inappropriate, possible even corrupt. Going back to I-69, in Texas, I-69 splits into three pieces (I-69E, C, and W) because the cities in the Rio Grande Valley on the Mexican border all wanted I-69 to end in *their* city and not the others. So the politicians had it written into law that I-69 would split like it currently does, even though the precedent was that Interstates could not have a suffix (example: I-69E) to avoid driver confusion and were phased out, the exception being I-35E/W in Minnesota and Texas. TL/DR: Politicians have begun writing interstate routes into law even if they aren't necessary, or economically viable.
@OneOneTwo112
Жыл бұрын
> Construction workers should move from one project to the next, don't stop You know, I realize that I think this is one of the vital reasons why the Washington Metro was able to build 129 miles of track in 46 years, something I still find to be incredibly impressive. The Metro basically went from one expansion to the next in rapid succession, completing the originally planned Metro system in 2001 by just continuously building out the system without stopping. And even after 2001, when the final extension of the Green Line to Branch Avenue opened, did Metro stop? No! NoMa - Gallaudet University opened on the Red Line in 2004, The Blue (and currently Silver Line) expanded out to Downtown Largo in 2004 as well, and of course, the Silver Line opened out to Whiele-Reston East in 2014 with the Ashburn extension opening days ago in 2022 as of this comment. I'm honestly really sad that the 98th station at Potomac Yard - VT is probably going to be the last Metro station opened for decades, they finally reached the end of the plans :( The Metro is by no means perfect, but this is one of the reasons why it's one of my favorite pieces of infrastructure in the US, even when the Metro was going over budget and over time, WMATA did not care and just kept going until they finally opened all of it AND MORE!
@TohaBgood2
Жыл бұрын
Interestingly, WMATA’s sister system in the Bay Area - BART has been doing the same. Basically, every 5-10 years there is a new extension. They’re now in the process of expanding to San Jose and Santa Clara. These two systems were so similar when they opened that you could even use the magstrip tickets from one system on the other! It’s interesting that they are still doing about the same things all these years later.
@ZZValiant
Жыл бұрын
Yup! The pace of construction on the Vancouver SkyTrain system is definitely slower than other larger cities, but there's literally always been a new extension under construction/in the planning phase pretty much ever since it opened in the 80s.
@GenericUrbanism
Жыл бұрын
@@ZZValiant Greater Vancouver has the same population as greater Charlotte:
@mattpopovich
Жыл бұрын
What about the purple line in Maryland? Currently being built now and planning on opening in late 2026? Or are you saying Potomac Yard will be the last station to open in DC for a while?
@OneOneTwo112
Жыл бұрын
@@mattpopovich The Purple Line is technically not part of the Washington Metro, it's being built by the Maryland Transit Administration (MTA), so those won't be "Metro" stops. Potomac Yard - VT is the last planned Metro stop for now, though there are studies being done to further expand Metro.
@theseandowney
Жыл бұрын
Hey Alan, great doc/essay. I do have one issue, though. There's only one t in scrutiny. You kept saying "scrutinty". Thanks and I can't wait for the next CaHSR video!
@mikejuly24
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for pointing this out. On the first instance of him saying it, I thought, "I wonder why he didn't edit out that mispronunciation". On the third instance, it became clear that that was just how he thinks it's pronounced.
@pjamn3431
Жыл бұрын
@@mikejuly24 It took me way too long to find someone commenting on this. It annoyed me throughout the video. It's in your title, how can you not pronounce it correctly?!
@Marc-925
Жыл бұрын
Youre the goat for pointing this out
@Alex-kd6op
Жыл бұрын
Agreed, really great points on Alan. Hearing "scrutinty" repeated kept irking me though.
@cdw2468
Жыл бұрын
and then he pronounced it correctly the last time he said it?! it was baffling
@trainymctrainface2895
Жыл бұрын
When Roads go over budget: 👁👄👁 When Trains go over buget: 😭
@bbbbbbb51
Жыл бұрын
Because most people don't live in close proximity to a stop as well as have their destination be near a stop. Rails are faaaaarrrrr less efficient in the states due to our land mass. We didn't have to design cities & towns with high population density as an impossibility to avoid.
@mauriceskyliners9873
Жыл бұрын
the anti trains are well able to complain about the so-called environmental disaster of the project. Europe Ecology-The Greens in France have already complained about Lyon-Turin. and it's incomprehensible because the train is eco-friendly and the Swiss, concerned about their living environment, are digging rail tunnels to stem the traffic of 1.2 million trucks per year. French ecologists believe that Lyon Turin is an environmental disaster but nothing like this has been observed in Switzerland.
@gulagkid799
Жыл бұрын
@@mauriceskyliners9873 italian ecologist and nimbys are even worse they are actively sabotaging the project and making up bullshit like asbestos or uranium in the mountains
@harryflashman4370
Жыл бұрын
@@bbbbbbb51 You mean suburbs are the issue here, trains were great in the early 20th century before everyone was hypnotized by the car craze. Suburban development caused the sprawl we know today since we are so spread out by low density housing.
@ryanfraley7113
Жыл бұрын
@@harryflashman4370 You’re taking to someone who doesn’t know how far the rabbit hole goes.
@packr72
Жыл бұрын
The fist highways were also built as cheaply as possible and have required several reconstruction periods since their original construction.
@MilwaukeeF40C
Жыл бұрын
They worked fine though and we're mostly locally funded or even done by private non profit groups such as the Lincoln Highway Association.
@ianhomerpura8937
Жыл бұрын
@@MilwaukeeF40C but guess what, the Federal Highwat Act happened. And now even non-car owners are forced to subsidize the interstate freeway system through taxes.
@threewestwinds
Жыл бұрын
I love subsidizing things with taxes that bring social benefits, even if I don't personally use them. That's what taxes are for. I'd much rather subsidize rail than highways though.
@MilwaukeeF40C
Жыл бұрын
"Social benefits" are a fool's errand.
@YaBoiScrumpo
Жыл бұрын
@@MilwaukeeF40C Patently false. According to the Federal Highway Administration, 90% of the funding to build out the highway system came from federal money, mostly through bonds. Eisenhower even favored self-funded methods like toll roads but got too much push back and gave up fighting it. Maybe some funding for highways maintenance now comes from private non profits, but it wasn't originally built that way and even today most of it comes from the Highway Trust Fund.
@AverytheCubanAmerican
Жыл бұрын
It's like how nobody except NJ urbanists and Jersey City residents (or a former JC resident in my case) are criticizing Phil Murphy's NJ Turnpike widening in Jersey City because the big media aren't talking about it. The extension is his "solution" for fixing the traffic to the Holland Tunnel...he probably lives under the same rock as Patrick because this won't solve anything and will only make the traffic worse by adding one more lane (not like the tunnel is magically gonna get wider). Plus, it would force the HBLR to shut down in order to relocate a part of its track...without this vital link, residents are stuck taking buses. Trains lead to development in general, as historically shown. I live on Long Island, and formerly in Jersey City and Westchester County...all places with great trains. How did Long Island develop so much? Because the LIRR helped it do so big time. If you build it, they will come. You bringing up the Shinkansen is a shining example of this. There was opposition in Germany and France too for HSR, and now both systems have been praised. Sure, Deutsche Bahn has its problems, but I'd rather have high-speed rail than no convenient rail whatsoever.
@summertime69
Жыл бұрын
One way to reduce costs on construction is to allow around-the-clock work. In America we tend to do 9-5 construction, which means an hour to set up, 6 hours to work, and one hour to take down. When COVID hit and no one went on this LA highway, they were able to run constantly and got the project done in a fraction of the time. We have to be okay shutting down transportation in some places for some time. I'm so sorry fellow Americans, often times good growth means a little inconvenience.
@electric7487
Жыл бұрын
"I'm so sorry fellow Americans, often times good growth means a little inconvenience." THIS is the key problem!! It's so hypocritical when people brag about "I WANNA SAVE THE PLANET" but go absolutely hypernova when they realise that the convenience that they get to enjoy decreases by an amount greater than 0. The whole deal with electric cars, autonomous cars, battery buses, battery locomotives, solar everything, wind everything, and countless other things is just people claiming to want change but not wanting to change the _status quo._
@agonzgonzalez7748
Жыл бұрын
Yeah try shutting down an LA highway with non Covid traffic and watch the anarchy unfold. It won’t just be a “little Inconvenience” and those 9-5 work schedules were created by the unions who also run the city construction crews. I doubt they are going to just want to work 12 hour shifts now.
@placeholdername0000
Жыл бұрын
@@electric7487 Like, heck. People will whine when you tell them to buy an EV with less than 300km range. Like, it has a plug for rapid chargers. Just spend the half hour when you're driving long distance once in a blue moon.
@placeholdername0000
Жыл бұрын
@@agonzgonzalez7748 3 times 8 hour shifts. Yes, the night shifts will demand higher wages, but just pay them. The project is done faster, meaning you get economic benefits faster.
@peskypigeonx
Жыл бұрын
I am really getting triggered about that prononciation of scrutiny, but otherwise great video
@still_guns
Жыл бұрын
Scru-tin-ty
@ratedRamsey
Жыл бұрын
It scrutintizing.....
@brokenvert
Жыл бұрын
Same but for *in* Long Island.
@calitaliarepublic6753
Жыл бұрын
Alan: I am Scrut(inty).
@MilwaukeeF40C
Жыл бұрын
Croutons
@JoeBubanNV
Жыл бұрын
It's so funny how money for trains are so expensive that Americans don't see the big picture that US' defense budget is 20× the budget of mass transits.
@ablive7010
Жыл бұрын
kzitem.info/news/bejne/zpVoqmRjiHqTpKw india high speed rail
@daleviker5884
Жыл бұрын
If the US didn't have a defense budget then you wouldn't be debating the cost of the train or not, because Moscow and Beijing wouldn't be bothered.
@reubendensmore4648
Жыл бұрын
In a way it almost feels like double standards are going on with American infrastructure. Thanks for bringing the situation into the spotlight. Also, whenever high speed rail in the US is discussed, it's usually California or the northeast, but believe it or not, there's actually been plans to build one in Illinois as well. Its terminuses would be Chicago and St Louis. Last spring, a committee was set up to survey the state on how best to build it. In my town, there's even been a project to reroute passenger rail so there's as few leveled crossings as possible. This could be a topic for a future video. Good job.
@ChrisJones-gx7fc
Жыл бұрын
yeah the Midwest HSR is exciting. High Speed Rail Alliance has been advocating for a Midwest HSR network, using both upgraded shared-use and dedicated tracks, radiating out from Chicago to St Louis, Minneapolis, Cincinnati via Indianapolis, Detroit, and Cleveland. There's also a proposed HSR route in the Pacific NW between Portland, Seattle and Vancouver, as well as a Southeast HSR between Atlanta and Charlotte, and I think Savannah. I'd make the case for linking up the NE Corridor, Midwest and Southeast HSR networks with an 'Eastern Triangle' HSR system connecting NYC, Chicago and Atlanta via major cities like Philadelphia, Pittsburgh, Louisville, Nashville, Raleigh and Richmond, using HSRA's proposal of both upgraded shared-use and dedicated tracks.
@ronclark9724
Жыл бұрын
St. Louis, Minneapolis/St.Paul, and Detroit are too far for a cost effective HSR as the train journey would take more than three hours, the sweet spot for effective HSR worldwide. And when I say effective, I mean winning the passenger market share battle with the airlines. Chicago should concentrate on HSR for shorter distances such as Milwaukee to Indianapolis, Quad Cities to Fort Wayne, Grand Rapids to Springfield or Peoria... Instead of being a terminus station, Chicago should be the middle station for their HSR network... Any HSR train route beyond three hours loses the passenger market share battle with the airlines significantly, it's not even close. If you are going to spend $100 billion for a very expensive HSR network, you might as well as run trains on it frequently which require a large metro population for its city pairs on routes no longer than three hours... Otherwise you are just flushing good money down the toilet...
@denelson83
Жыл бұрын
The double standard at play is that cars make Big Oil and automakers more money. Trains do not.
@MarioFanGamer659
Жыл бұрын
@@ronclark9724 Ron, this the worst comment I've ever seen in your history. St. Louis isn't "too far" from Chicago because both are around 417 km apart and there are far longer HSL than that (even with stops, you'd reach the 3 hour mark). Chicago to Detroit also isn't too bad either as by road, they're 455 km apart. Only calling Chicago to Minneapolis/St. Paul too far is reasonable but even that doesn't exclude a connection thereof entirely (Paris-Marseille is a comparable distance, in fact).
@mukeshkonthoujam1480
Жыл бұрын
American when there tax money is used on useless war in Middle East... : 😌😌 American when there tax money is used on usefull things. : 👁️👄👁️
@harrisonofcolorado8886
Жыл бұрын
Sir, I appreciate you for giving your support for CHSR. I don't live in California, but I like the project too and really hate the bad press that this project gets just because of it's issues. I believe in this project because I believe that it will be socioeconomically and environmentally helpful, mainly because I've seen the A line in Denver succeed, so kudos to you for making a positive video of CHSR.
@D00rHandleMedia
Жыл бұрын
I’ve lived in CA all my life and it would suck to take a train to one city only then have to spend $200 in Uber to get around the metropolitan area and for what reason? Tourist don’t simply go to downtown LA they go to adjacent cities like Santa Monica, Burbank and Anaheim which are all $50+ Ubers away. I’ve paid less in gas making road trips between and through both cities even at 6$ a gallon. If you live in the Bay Area chances are you work there and same with LA since it really makes no sense to live in one city and work in the other as both are comparably expensive. I’m not against people supporting CHSR but I am surprised people don’t realize it’s obvious flaws and anticipate it will just be another white elephant project all to try and appease socialists and climate activists while the majority will continue to drive I-5 and 99.
@ryanfraley7113
Жыл бұрын
@@D00rHandleMedia Uber is in and of itself a giant grift. There’s tons of videos about what the dynamics of Uber are and how it isn’t good on this platform.
@whoisthatkidd2212
Жыл бұрын
@@D00rHandleMedia wow its almost as if SoCal needs better transit and less car-dependent development but in order to do this there needs to be a intercity transit backbone for it to be centralized around so that its possible to access the rest of the state without a car. Gee, I wonder what that could be...???
@D00rHandleMedia
Жыл бұрын
@@ryanfraley7113 Unfortunately ride share is the only alternative to driving if one needs to arrive at any particular destination in a timely matter.
@anthonybanchero3072
Жыл бұрын
Isn’t the line that Real Life Lore suggested CAHSR take to San Diego tge one that is suspended due to erosion right now?
@greenoftreeblackofblue6625
Жыл бұрын
Mfers really look at the U.S. infinite budget then look at public transport and say "You're spending too much."
@PaendaTube
10 күн бұрын
Because it's just for California If LA and las Vegas and Phoenix had a high speed rail project that connected each other that would be super cool and yeah use the America dollars But if it's just California, use your California dollars, don't use as much America dollars it's only benefiting 1 of the 50 states. I think people get it twisted, we only care about the cost because we pay the bill without seeing the finished train in our communities
@SuperBuildsInMC
Жыл бұрын
I'm American, but I wholly support having a rail system more like Europe's. I'm surprised at just how unwilling people are to get rid of their dangerous, slow, and shitty cars. There are literally countless more pros to rail than cons, and cars don't have anything on rail, yet people still drag their feet on it. It's cheaper, much cheaper in fact. You can do things you can't normally do in a car, like drink, or wear a seatbelt. You have almost 0 chance of dying in a train wreck compared to a car accident, of which you are pretty likely to get in one. don't have to personally maintain it and keep it running (unlike cars) you don't have to replace a train nearly as often as a car. Its more eco friendly, it takes up significantly less space than shitty ass interstates and highways. Having a car is a goddamn hassle.
@nappa3550
Жыл бұрын
Me too. But it will probably never come here, because most are too close-minded on these things. They don't see the broader side at all, and just see it as a money making venture in the immediate sense.
@The_king567
10 ай бұрын
You are everything wrong with this country and everything you said is wrong we don’t need these stupid trains We will never have them for a good reason
@greenoftreeblackofblue6625
Жыл бұрын
This Thanksgiving Alan is thankful for existing public rail transport.
@pizzajona
Жыл бұрын
8:15 I’d say outsourcing manufacturing is much different than outsourcing thinking. Outsourcing manufacturing yields hassles like you mention but also cost efficiencies due to comparative advantage. The government outsourcing thinking only increases costs as they spend more money to get the same thing had they developed it in house.
@ianhomerpura8937
Жыл бұрын
That is exactly how "feasibility studies" work.
@compdude100
Жыл бұрын
yes, and pretty much every DOT will do the design for a road project in-house. There's no reason why transit agencies can't do likewise.
@LMB222
Жыл бұрын
There's nothing wrong with outsourcing. The example given simply shows they don't know how to do it in the US. You know who's doing the CPU component for Volkswagen? Continental, the company k own for tyres. And who's doing part of the work for Continental? Hitachi Poland, Capgemini Portugal and some more in Romania and India. So there's a *three* tier system that works well because of the legal framework and communication.
@regulate.artificer_g23.mdctlsk
Жыл бұрын
They criticize railway projects for costing hundreds of millions of dollars, yet these same people praise a $10,000,000,000 underwater highway project. (It was a ten lane water tunnel IIRC)
@ianhomerpura8937
Жыл бұрын
Meanwhile you have Germany and Denmark building an underwater road-rail tunnel at a fraction of the cost. And they plan to finish it by 2029. The US is way left behind.
@darthmaul216
Жыл бұрын
And this project is cheaper than widening I-5 by billions of dollars
@chairmanlmao4482
Жыл бұрын
The lack of decent intercity train services is the only thing holding me back from visiting the U.S. You guys have so many cool and interesting historic cities, charming small towns and so much natural beauty, but it is all wasted potential because of the obsession with cars
@romanrat5613
Жыл бұрын
You could take a trip to the northeast, visit DC, Philadelphia, NY, Boston, all by rail, and all those cities have good transit
@YetAnotherGeorgeth
Жыл бұрын
@@romanrat5613 that’s true. But go outside of the north east corridor and maybe Chicago and the intercity train services are bad at best.
@bbbbbbb51
Жыл бұрын
My guy we likely have over 20x the land mass of your country. We can't realistically cover it all in rail. Our "obsession with cars" is out of necessity. When I do visit Europe, I'll 100% be renting a car over there as I want to go to places that are far away from rail destinations & more remote. Both cars & rails & the design around them have pros & cons. I'm so tired of everyone acting like one is a holy saint & the other is a steaming pile of shit. It's delusional.
@aidancollins1591
Жыл бұрын
@@bbbbbbb51 EU as a whole is comparable to size of USA. Russia is bigger than USA. China is comparable to the USA. None of them have a problem buildings trains connecting the entire country. What happened to pride in our country? You're really going to let those filthy commies outdo us when it comes to trains? Shameful. It makes us look bad.
@tomendruweit9386
Жыл бұрын
In germany basically every town and many Villages have thier own Connection. the few that dont haev a good bus connection.
@T-rick
Жыл бұрын
Great work on this. So infuriating to see rail and transit require perfection in every aspect. Roads and highways haven't helped anything and we continue to just do the same thing over and over hoping for a different outcome!
@denelson83
Жыл бұрын
The definition of insanity.
@daleviker5884
Жыл бұрын
"Roads and highways haven't helped anything". Well, there's no arguing with intelligent analysis like that.
@nappa3550
Жыл бұрын
@@daleviker5884lol They certainly have helped, it's just that we don't utilize them properly nowadays, like with every other thing.
@PoisonedElite
Жыл бұрын
It doesn't matter if a train project goes over budget because it can actually make some operating costs back thru fares and arent a maintenance money pit like freeways are.
@Abel_DG
Жыл бұрын
Oh, hello sensible person. Nice to meet ya.
@nappa3550
Жыл бұрын
Wow I never thought Id come across a like minded person..
@PaendaTube
10 күн бұрын
Yes but that over budget should be footed by ca tax payers not American tax payers I agree with everything you are saying!!! Just not American dollars when it's specifically a California rail project and California only project
@kevinp.h157
Жыл бұрын
Show this to any conservative/neoliberal arguing against public transit (copy-pasted from r/f cars): -Cars are more expensive for the taxpayer: The construction and maintenance of highways and roads often ends up being far more expensive than a transit-oriented approach; according to one of Bill Bryson's articles in I'm A Stranger Here Myself, restoring rail passenger transport to much of northern New England in the 1990s would have cost about $500 million; meanwhile, Burlington, VT spent $100 million on a single 12-mile road. This, of course, does not even include other costs borne by the taxpayer, ranging from industry subsidies and bailouts to massive military spending aimed at securing sources of oil to the use of public schools to teach driving lessons to the upkeep of vast bureaucracies like DMVs and highway departments. -Transport funding is not a zero-sum game: A corollary to the above, every user of public transport should be thought of not as a freeloader or as a subsidized burden on taxpayers, but as a savings to the taxpayer that results from every car taken off the road. Cars have resulted in a massive expansion of the size and scope of police forces and policing (this is more a libertarian argument): Traffic control, highway patrols, parking enforcement, etc; the widespread use of cars means having a lot more police officers and departments. Also compared to using public transport, I'm subject to far more police scrutiny when I drive, with "implied consent" pretty much throwing the Fourth Amendment out the window when it comes to search and seizure. -Car-centric planning has eroded property rights: Euclidean/single-use/R1 and related zoning laws, byproducts of the auto age and designing communities around car users, have resulted in increasingly onerous restrictions on what property owners can do with their private property in terms of what they can build on it and how they can use it. -Federal highways and highway funding have greatly increased the Federal government's spending levels and reach: In addition to the Federal government's spending (and overspending) on highways, the threat to withdraw highway funding has been used as an extra-constitutional cudgel to force states into compliance with the Federal government's wishes on matters that should be left up to the states themselves (like the 21 drinking age). -Highway construction results in more use of Eminent Domain: Because of the much larger footprint a highway has relative to a railroad line with the equivalent capacity, when building a new highway more private property will have to be seized and built over. Greater choice for the road user: Having public transportation systems in addition to cars ultimately gives a transportation user a choice over which mode to use, rather than forcing them to drive because there are no other options available. -Walkable towns, mixed-use buildings, and transit-oriented development is more traditional: Car-centric development is only a relatively recent phenomenon, so building car-free or car-optional areas is returning to a more traditional way of development. -There's market demand for alternatives: Walkable and transit-oriented areas (either older developments that are grandfathered on zoning requirements or new developments that have gotten exempted from car-centric zoning requirements) often command a premium compared to car-only housing, so forcing places to build car-oriented development is an artificial restraint imposed on what the market really wants.
@arkethel
Жыл бұрын
"Show this to any neoliberal arguing against public transit:" *shows neoliberal reasoning and ideas*
@teeveeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
Жыл бұрын
@@arkethel It hurt itself in it's confusion
@kevinp.h157
Жыл бұрын
@@arkethel Excuse me?
@arkethel
Жыл бұрын
@@kevinp.h157 Neoliberals typically argue in favor of public transit
@darthmaul216
Жыл бұрын
@adsaa ok muscle man
@weirdfish1216
Жыл бұрын
i’ve been waiting for this video since you made the real life lore response video. amazing points as always, this needs to be broadcast on every news station in california
@ErdTirdMans
Жыл бұрын
Hell yes. THIS is the video we needed. I-95 in Philly has been getting rebuilt for 2 decades and everyone is rightfully annoyed about it, but the moment you suggest something that might be mildly disruptive like throwing light or heavy rail up the Boulevard, people lose their minds. Yes, infrastructure projects suck in the modern age. If we're going to disrupt people's lives and commutes with one, why not build a new backbone of transit that takes cars off the road instead of... one more lane.
@PaendaTube
10 күн бұрын
Because as the i in i95 everyone benefits from the extra lane. Even me who wants to travel up the East Coast to visit Niagara falls. Or go down to to the beaches of obx. Or visit the beginnings of our country in Philadelphia Every American can take advantage of i95
@redlibertyx
Жыл бұрын
My biggest problem with CHSR is that the scope is IMO still too small. Build to Redding. Build a parallel line up 101. Go absolutely nuts.
@professorspark2361
Жыл бұрын
Ideally they should have San Diego, Sacramento, Las Vegas (if Brightline falls through) and Portland extensions locked and loaded as soon as the current sections enter service. Let's go absolutely feral here. Then follow up with a full corridor up to Vancouver. Is anyone going to ride the whole thing end to end? No, not really. Are you going to service a fuckload of customers up and down the entire Pacific coast? Hell yeah.
@Neuzahnstein
Жыл бұрын
@@professorspark2361 Some will, maybe with a sleeper service.
@TheScourge007
Жыл бұрын
This fits with the "don't stop building after one project" point. Once San Francisco to LA is complete, IMMEDIATELY start building to San Diego, to Las Vegas, hell, up to Oregon and go up the Willamette Valley to Portland. Just keep going until the whole West Coast is connected then hire those folks to do the same in Texas, the Great Lakes, the Northeast. By the time we've run out of viable HSR destinations we'll need to do upgrades on existing lines. A-B-C: Always Be Constructing!
@KRYMauL
Жыл бұрын
They can’t build a line along 101, they could potentially get UP to upgrade to 177 km/h. However, it is very hilly.
@KRYMauL
Жыл бұрын
@@professorspark2361 I think that will be how they’re ultimately going to finish the corridor. I would imagine that Amtrak will push to get the Brightlines station and tracks built.
@andreaang9448
Жыл бұрын
Not wanting highspeed rail as someone who lives in asia is aboslutely WILD to me. I would kill for highspeed rail in my country.
@1038bro
Жыл бұрын
the state of Georgia spending 800 million on one interchange when MARTA expansion to Gwinnett County would be covered by that is perfectly indicative of your point
@ianhomerpura8937
Жыл бұрын
Or SEPTA wasting money on the KOP branch line instead of extending the Broad Street Line.
@Circ00mspice
Жыл бұрын
As someone who relies on public transport to commute everyday I wanna commit seppoku just by looking at the comments and my hatred of the US is exasperated
@WillmobilePlus
Жыл бұрын
So? Most of us don't rely on it. Wah.
@ianhomerpura8937
Жыл бұрын
@@WillmobilePlus because you nutjobs gutted the railways. Screw you carbrains.
@metrofilmer8894
Жыл бұрын
I can confirm that we aren’t all just haters of public transportation. These are KZitem comment of course
@colonelcampbellsoup6318
Жыл бұрын
I think its absolutely rich that the local news in the Bay was running a scathing report on how the BART to downtown san jose extension would displace a couple of local business. As if freeways did not displace entire neighborhoods. Like where's the scrutiny in THAT?
@MrBirdnose
Жыл бұрын
Main issue with light rail isn't that it physically displaces people, it's that it drives up rents and displaces them that way.
@colonelcampbellsoup6318
Жыл бұрын
@@MrBirdnose I am not talking about the passive displacement caused by rent increases. Light rail transit or not, this phenomenon will occur, especially in the bay. I am alluding to BART and VTA's use of eminent domain for their construction. I could provide the link to the article, but youtube automatically deletes comments with links.
@LMB222
Жыл бұрын
Tell that news station that you're appalled.
@Supremechairuser
Жыл бұрын
The San Jose downtown was completely obliterated by highway construction. But Bart integration is the villain.
@tomottodockter2072
Жыл бұрын
I grew up In Germany and just visited again. while the trains often have delays it is so much more comfortable to travel. say you want to go from Munich to Berlin, in 7 hours your there even Paris to Berlin is possible it is truly amazing how comfortable traveling can be.
@ronclark9724
Жыл бұрын
Why don't Germans ride trains to Istanbul? Tel Aviv? Baghdad? Cairo? Why do Germans usually FLY long distances instead of ride trains, much like the rest of the world, including China? Munich to Berlin is only a distance of 363 miles. The distance from New York City to Buffalo is 377 miles... You are still in one American state, never mind the other forty-nine states... I have rode trains in the Balkans, HSR doesn't exist there...
@fishofgold6553
Жыл бұрын
Excuse my ignorance, but was that Munich-to-Berlin journey on a high-speed train (instead of a conventional train)?
@daleviker5884
Жыл бұрын
@@fishofgold6553 Germany doesn't have hi-speed trains of the type you're thinking of in Japan and China. In Western Europe, Spain and Italy have the best trains, which is why their economies are perpetually broke. France pioneered the high speed in Europe, and the network is still very good, but is now a bit older than Spain and Italy's. Germany is not up to the standard of the others, but is reasonable compared with much of the world.
@pBIggZz
Жыл бұрын
There was a headline here in toronto that a subway line the province sort of forced through, the Ontario Line, was going to balloon to 20 billion dollars. Turns out the price tag is still 10.9 billion, and the rest of that money was to operate it for the first 30 years. I am no fan of doug ford, but by chance, he's done the one right thing by *forcing* Toronto to build a subway whose cost they would have surely mewled about for 60 years before anyone even thought about touching a shovel. In essence the headline was tribal nimby deficit horror bullshit.
@peskypigeonx
Жыл бұрын
It’s weird that Doug Ford, the literal maniac he is, somehow endorsed a good transportation project…
@davidty2006
Жыл бұрын
Pretty much same case can be said about HS 2. And i think the I69 issue is because it's numbered 69.
@ianhomerpura8937
Жыл бұрын
For HS2, the B1M video emphasized why it's very much needed: capacity. Trains at the existing system are bursting at the seams.
@murphy7801
Жыл бұрын
@@ianhomerpura8937 issue with whole of the UK's train system is piece meal private providers making so so expensive to use. It's cheaper to fly from say Manchester to london by quite alot.
@derhesligebonsaibaum
Жыл бұрын
I69? Nice.
@doylethelovely2555
Жыл бұрын
Nice
@tristanexists1806
Жыл бұрын
Its not a nice project though
@dylanpotato8739
Жыл бұрын
still nice number though
@MilwaukeeF40C
Жыл бұрын
Nicccccce.
@phillycheesesteak670
Жыл бұрын
Agreed, criticism of the highway systems is desperately needed. But 171 miles build over a decade is absolutely and horrifically pathetic compared to China's 26,097 miles of high speed rail build in a little over a decade. Not to mention the other 70,215 miles of rail built. The US empire is fat and bloated and cant take care of itself, radical change is needed to fix this.
@nappa3550
Жыл бұрын
Indeed. But not much can be done right now, unfortunately
@fritzophrenia3146
Жыл бұрын
I wonder where all the budget hawks were when California decided to massively expand their prison system in the 80s and 90s?
@denelson83
Жыл бұрын
Prisons are profitable. Passenger trains are not.
@Mrwizard-ck7oe
Жыл бұрын
Prisons are important. If only they were used to make public transportation actually safe enough to ride in. But no let the crackheads get free reign and if anyone tries to stop them they get jailed
@fritzophrenia3146
Жыл бұрын
@@Mrwizard-ck7oe The United States has the the second highest incarnation rate in the world, a little over 20% of all prisoners on the planet. How much higher does that rate have to be to make public transit "safe"?
@denelson83
Жыл бұрын
@@fritzophrenia3146 Incarceration, not incarnation.
@OBSMProductions
Жыл бұрын
@@fritzophrenia3146 Not to mention a high recidivism rate
@FreshApplePie
Жыл бұрын
Americans, you really dont know what you're missing, trains are incredible ways to get around.
@spudskie3907
Жыл бұрын
Not cross-country when flying is better.
@FreshApplePie
Жыл бұрын
@@spudskie3907 you are out of your mind if you think the airport isnt part of that experience
@DENVERRIOGRANDEMAN21
Жыл бұрын
Although I do love trains But cars are more incredible way to go than trains
@PaendaTube
10 күн бұрын
I do think we are missing good high speed rail i think the costs scrutiny is because it's California high speed rail. They should be using California tax dollars and limited use of federal funds I think it's a great idea, but if it's going to be something i never experience and it's mainly for the benefit of one state it shouldn't be dependent on the other 49 to build it
@MarcD1994
Жыл бұрын
As a Montrealer who saw the REM just get built extremely efficiently through a private/public partnership, I couldn’t give a shit if more companies start following brightline’s lead. It’s literally how North America got all those streetcars (and some railroads I think) built in the first place. Why not just do the same thing now?
@SKAOG21
Жыл бұрын
PPPs are great!
@SmallTown_Studio
Жыл бұрын
Literally ALL of the U.S. Railroads throughout history have been built and run by private companies. Except for Amtrak which is kind of an oddity in history.
@ronclark9724
Жыл бұрын
@@SmallTown_Studio Amtrak was created by Congress when the private railroad went bankrupt running the northeast corridor after the USPS, the government itself, terminated the railroads mail contracts more than a half century ago. The USPS chose to FLY the mail long distances, no longer do American passenger trains have a dozen or more mail cars on their consists... Duh... The reason: HOURS NOT DAYS! UPS and FedEx weren't far behind FLYING the mail either NEXT DAY AIR, or OVERNIGHT... It takes Amtrak three days to cross the continent coast to coast running all night long on at least two routes, while it takes a single truck/lorry driver six days to drive from LA to Boston legally...
@ricardokowalski1579
Жыл бұрын
Shhhh you can't say that. The collectivists get mad. Robber Barons, anti-trust, bla bla This video is full of strawman arguments. And everything hinges on arguing "IF THINGS WERE DONE MY WAY" it would be better. They also say "it wasn't real socialism" and "better regulation", variations on a theme The issue is simple: control. Not control of the outcome. Just control of the people. They will burn down the planet, or let the jungle take over in a green blanket. It doesn't matter, as long as they are controlling what other people are doing. Regards
@greevar
Жыл бұрын
"If I can't drive my car on it, it's a waste of money!!!!"
@ianhomerpura8937
Жыл бұрын
Amtrak auto trains exist though
@jeffreyrodrigoecheverria2613
Жыл бұрын
I am a conservative (traditional sense of understood as being a Catholic) and I hate suburbs, capitalism and automobile cities.
@ianhomerpura8937
Жыл бұрын
You would certianly like Strong Towns. I would recommend it to you.
@sirgermaine
Жыл бұрын
Cars aren't a silver bullet. A silver train that goes fast enough to be called a bullet train? That's a silver bullet.
@Whatshisname346
Жыл бұрын
I'm working on (and off) a rail project in northern Europe which joins the capital region and the second city. It's going to cost A LOT but it's also going to run through 2 economically depressed regional cities putting them within 30 mins of the two much larger cities. Not only is this going to help those cities economically, it'll also help stabilize housing prices in the larger cities. If the money had been spent on roads, it'd have been impossible to achieve even a fraction of the improvement in travel times and you'd increase congestion. My point is, whatever the cost, public transport is a virtuous circle and if you're actually 'pro-business' you'd want these sort of projects because the economic growth they bring about are immeasurable ( they probably are measurable but I'm too busy to go looking for the research!).
@PaendaTube
10 күн бұрын
Yes but it's all California and all benefiting California All budget overages should be covered by California not America I think its a great idea and will benefit California and the residents greatly. But my tax dollars shouldn't be spent on their budget issues only California benefits
@stev8628
Жыл бұрын
I advocate this message! Just Flippin do it and stop bullshitting
@timnakautoga3512
Жыл бұрын
The project is also a huge target for public transit simply because it's in California. California is always the scapegoat for every single problem with liberal policies and is always pointed at for any reason at all. It's very much an extrnsion of the entire SF debate and the argument of "how can it be so good to live in California if there's so much homelessness?! You're wasting your budget on expensive social programs when you should be spending it on police!" California is not without its problems, but 99% of critics in California will not point out that California should do more for the houseless population or do more in terms of public transportation. Instead it will be something along the lines of "Go woke, go broke" or "Back the blue." I'm studying civil engineering and I plan on specializing in transportation engineering thanks in part to videos like these. Please keep making them
@outlawruby
Жыл бұрын
Ironically the main reason Cali has this homeless problem is a combination of too much R1 residential zoning, a warm climate year round, and how most conservative homeless policies is to put all the local homeless people on a bus to either NYC or California.
@timnakautoga3512
Жыл бұрын
@@outlawruby Exactly, this hits the nail on its head. But to a majority of Americans, no, apparently homelessness only exists inside CA cities. I love this state, but it is ultimately a part of the USA and as such adopts many conservative policies whether people realize it or not. Then again, even if they did realize it, so many people are so far gone that the moment the California government tries to help the unhoused or those on the brink of becoming unhoused, it immediately gets bashed by both the democratic and republican party.
@jintsuubest9331
Жыл бұрын
@@outlawruby I thought they are locking up the homelessness to keep providing the privatized prison industry complex with fresh slave labor?
@TohaBgood2
Жыл бұрын
@@outlawruby Bingo! A few cities in the state actually sued other cities, counties, and states for sending their homeless people here and won damages in court! But it’s a ton of work to track down each case and prove that another jurisdiction paid for their Greyhound ticket to CA - the so-called “greyhound treatment”. And it’s only legally punishable if the unhoused person was in psychiatric treatment just before being sent here. So they just gave up on this whole thing after proving that this is happening in a few dozen court cases.
@crummyclub9344
Жыл бұрын
@@outlawruby Incorrect. The main reason Cali has a homeless problem is its expensiveness, which is made due to mostly liberal policies.
@hngldr
Жыл бұрын
Of course interstate 69 is a meme... Yeah I literally had never heard of it - very happy to now make sure other people hear about it from me all the time. Thanks for sharing
@PixelatedLlama
Жыл бұрын
Ahhhh I found this video very late, but I've been saying this about I69 for so long. It's especially frustrating as an Indianapolis resident. As far as the Indiana portion is concerned, I can understand extending it to Bloomington but no further. The rest of the money should've gone towards high speed rail between Indianapolis and the South Shore Line, which connects Chicago to South Bend. Catch me in the skyscrapercity development forums talking about doing this instead for years...
@nappa3550
Жыл бұрын
I live near Muncie, and there's an area (26 exit on I69) that INDOT has been working on for at least 2 years. The incompetence is crazy.
@leechowning2712
Жыл бұрын
Your point on running the government like a business has easily a dozen varieties here in the US. The idea that a public service should be a profit making Enterprise extends from the US mail to the US prison complex to the US educational system. As a person who is worked both in the US and in near socialist countries it is very frustrating to me because most of the time the government takes over a service because it is not a profit-making opportunity but it is necessary for the public good. I would love to see a campaign talking about the police managing sufficient fines to make profits in a city or county. I guarantee everyone would come to the next city meeting with pitchforks and burning torches. But when we talk about schools or the mail service or the transit service making a profit it's considered a good thing. Talking about the school having enough extra to do this other big project, or how much the privatized prison system is saving the government because prisoners in the prison are rented to companies to work... That's all fine and good. Any public transit that is focused on providing access to people who don't have money cannot make profit off of those people. In large Urban settings they have massive quantities of homeless at this point. The reason for that is even the ones that have jobs oftentimes cannot afford to live within an hour's commute of work. Now that's not counting the fact that even in my state with the oil costs going down driving to the large city that is over an hour away would mean that I was spending nearly $100 a week in gas. Please don't tell me about I could get an electric car because I have friends who literally have to turn their electric car off and roll downhill in several places because their battery life is shorter than their commute to work. My town is in excess of 1/3 retirees at this point and almost no young families because the few remaining jobs can't afford to pay them enough. We are right on one of the main lines, so much so that when I am traveling internationally I take Amtrak to LA to get my international flight because it's cheaper and much more comfortable. But I can't take that same train to the next large city for work because the train is once a day each direction, and I would have to pull an extraordinary amount of magic out of a hat to get a job which would be between the times that the train runs.
@Westlander857
Жыл бұрын
Public projects that are for the public good should be completed at any and all cost, imo. And there’s no such thing as a project being “too expensive” when it comes to fighting climate change and making our cities more livable, especially for future generations. For context, I’d highly recommend checking out Carlos Maza’s “The Pay for it Scam” video.
@MilwaukeeF40C
Жыл бұрын
Get over the climate change crap.
@ianhomerpura8937
Жыл бұрын
@@MilwaukeeF40C what is wrong with that though?
@jamesclint2279
Жыл бұрын
@@ianhomerpura8937 Pretending it’s real, the state should be investing in the water storage or supply the Central Valley desperately needs. With out that the Central Valley will die making HSRCA even more useless. Money isn’t unlimited 🤡.
@stevenedwards3754
Жыл бұрын
San Francisco just opened its Muni Central Subway and the yammering about costs and delays have all been the same. Nobody cares how much the original Muni subway or the massive BART cost when they both opened 50 years ago. They are now part of basic local infrastructure as much as massively expensive water projects were a fifty years before that. But at least Central Subway's tunnel boring machine was left in the ground so work can continue when the complaining dies down.
@stephanweinberger
Жыл бұрын
@8:50 you forgot number 3: use existing expertise from other countries. US laws in many cases limit or outright ban importing foreign technology and expertise from countries that have been constructing transit and HSR for decades. Instead you have to re-learn everything from scratch, which obviously takes a lot of time and drives up cost. Especially when combined with your point number 2. E.g. California HSR will cost about _twice_ (!) as much per mile as high-speed rail lines in Germany like eg. the latest stretch from Ulm to Wendlingen. And that despite the fact, that California HSR is basically on flat land whereas the Wendlingen-Ulm line is more than 50% tunnel.
@haphazard1342
Жыл бұрын
We had SNCF trying to get a contract, and they pulled out because the CA political atmosphere was too dysfunctional. They literally went to North Africa and built HSR in Morocco (opened 2018), while CA HSR has barely broken ground.
@ianhomerpura8937
Жыл бұрын
@@haphazard1342 and ONCF is already building another extension of the al-Boraq HSR. That's how fast they are in building at a fraction of the cost.
@ishathakor
Жыл бұрын
it's genuinely wild to me that americans will see insanely huge highway expansion projects announced that cause millions or billions of dollars and they won't bat an eye or even just be excited at the prospect but when it comes to any expected and normal construction costs for a train they lose it. they don't expect a single road in the entire country to make any money, but if it's public transport suddenly they're all about making money. it's a ridiculous double standard.
@nappa3550
Жыл бұрын
Exactly.. I just don't see why my fellow Americans see it like that.. oh wait, cause most don't even have the mind to comprehend it beyond the first (immediate) level.
@PaendaTube
10 күн бұрын
A train that services 1 state Vs a highway that connects 8 states and 3 countries. Tell me which deserves federal funding and which should have limited federal funding I think ca hsr is an amazing idea, just don't do it on American tax dollars. What's the point of taxing Californians the way that do if they can't fund it themselves
@NooneStaar
Жыл бұрын
It doesn't seem very capitalist overall if you're wanting to "run the country like a business" to then have to constantly spend billions to keep ALL these roads going and keep expanding, when in the long run once railroads are put down all you have is maintenance compared to repaving roads all the time. Though IDK the cost of roads vs track maintenance I feel like the tracks are lower in cost.
@MilwaukeeF40C
Жыл бұрын
Tracks are lower cost. The highways never should have been subsidized.
@NooneStaar
Жыл бұрын
@@MilwaukeeF40C Makes sense, You'd think people who want fiscal responsibility wouldn't want to subsidize roadways and have people directly pay for them or so.
@jiainsf
Жыл бұрын
More "policy-heavy" videos please :)
@benjaminallisonii724
Жыл бұрын
Same!
@ThunderTheBlackShadowKitty
Жыл бұрын
Agreed!
@incrediblelatte
Жыл бұрын
I take CalTrain to work daily. I wholly support california High speed rail. My friends who drive do not understand why I take the train/bike to and from work. I'm excited to take High speed rail to LA (assuming all the negative press doesnt stop it). Based on the turn out for the 4 stop "subway" line in SF that runs to China town on the weekends. Public transit in california will ultimately succeed!
@taylorshain12
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for making this video! I hate the way rail projects are reported with scrutiny, yet highways are just treated like business as usual.
@ronclark9724
Жыл бұрын
Believe it or not, in America less than two percent of Americans have ever rode a intercity train... Less than two percent... Whereas over eighty percent have flown at least once, and one hundred percent use highways one way or another, if only to walk on them... Let those numbers sink into your brain, and you wonder why Congress and the media support highways like business as usual?
@LMB222
Жыл бұрын
Forget climate change, people aren't willing to change for that. Talk about COMFORT. Why are Americans always selecting the cheapest possible options when they have enough to make use of something decent? A train is not going to be delayed by rain, ice, sleet, whatever. A train doesn't need to have to wait till the evening because the air density is too low, like a plane in summer in Colorado mountains. A train has normal-sized toilets and decent bars, where you can eat and (gasp!) drink decently priced beer! And above else, stretch your legs.
@_buns_
Жыл бұрын
I want a video exclusively dunking on overbudget car projects now
@HarZoiD
Жыл бұрын
Seriously, thank you for the intelligent coverage of the CAHSR. So many people online keep spewing out the same negative, scripted rhetoric about the project opposed to actual facts. This video helps to establish some sense of sanity.
@JJSmalls
Жыл бұрын
4:18 This is so infuriating. I live in Texas and my employer wants me to relocate 6 hours from where I currently live, in Texas. I wouldn't mind commuting daily by train if I had the option. At least there's Greyhound. I wouldn't be surprised if the state is actually losing money with it's over-reliance on highways and airlines.
@kms1.62
Жыл бұрын
It is and we are overpaying for transportation. The highway system provides maximum coverage already; contnuing investing in new expansion, adding lanes, and building sprawling new subdivisions, has gone past the point of diminishing returns. On the most heavily traveled routes, and the US has a lot of them, rail is more economic in the long-run and it supports denser home-building near stations. Yeah, these up-front costs are high, but they are nothing compared to the long-term costs and deficincies of our bloated, crumbing, and ever-growing subsidized roadway network.
@scpatl4now
Жыл бұрын
You need to be a contributor on some of these network news channels. I-69 is the perfect comparison that when presented as you did, anyone can understand (and I-69 is way more of a shitshow than any US rail project)
@KRYMauL
Жыл бұрын
He went on the New York times, so maybe.
@Pamani_
Жыл бұрын
I can't take this interstate seriously with such a name
@davidlang1125
Жыл бұрын
Love your take on transit. BTW I noticed you pronounce the word “scrutiny” as scru-ni-ty more than once. Or is it my ears playing tricks on me?
@grimaffiliations3671
Жыл бұрын
he pronounces it right the third time which is interesting
@kms1.62
Жыл бұрын
@@grimaffiliations3671 it could be a suppressed hiccup or a beer slur, or just a regionalism, or just whatever, it is kinda funny, but totally harmless, I once had a coworker who was very smart and capable who regularly pronounced "coagulate" with four syllables as in something like "quagulate" with three syllables , and at least once I heard something like "quaggled blood" and was quietly very amused. Never had the heart to bring it up though.
@weasel945
Жыл бұрын
It's because everybody will support a highway named 'I-69'. They should rename the California highspeed rail to '420 blaze it rail line' and get more support.
@14Ramjet
Жыл бұрын
This is just fueling me into wanting to transition my job even more. I currently design roads, but for the past year I have been wanting more pedestrian, bicycle, and transit projects. I know I have to switch jobs for that, but it is so hard to get a job when I do not have the experience in transit and everyone just brushes me over.
@edgoebel1984
Жыл бұрын
I am so happy that someone else sees the value of transit vs highways. We lived in Aurora Il. For almost 20 years and I can count one hand the number times we drove downtown. METRA is not perfect, but Union Station provides a walkable distance to most area of the Loop and N Michigan Avenue.
@chrisstromberg6527
Жыл бұрын
I rode that Metra from Naperville to Downtown for about a month when I was taking some classes in the city. What a great way to commute to work or school.
@spicytuna62
Жыл бұрын
Houston: [builds a road] Houston Traffic: [exists] Houston: [builds bigger roads] Houston Traffic: [gets worse] Houston: [BUILDS AN EVEN BIGGER ROAD] Houston Traffic: [somehow gets _even worse]_ Houston: *[BUILDS HUGE ROADS ALONGSIDE HUGE ROADS TO SERVICE EVEN MORE HUGE ROADS]* Houston Traffic: [is the butt of all traffic jokes] Houston city leadership/DOT/State of Texas, et al: "tHeRe iS nO oThEr WaY! TrAfFiC iS A fAcT oF LiFe!"
@asamyers4572
Жыл бұрын
The only problem with this video is that the people who need to see this will never see it.
@ZontarDow
Жыл бұрын
Well that and also the continued pushing of the myth that fiscal responsibility is a bad thing despite the fact that unless people want to live in German style hyperinflaiton those of us under 30 will have most of our life lived under "austerity" because the bill does eventually come due and as much as people want to pretend otherwise ideology does not warp reality.
@kms1.62
Жыл бұрын
@@ZontarDow Fiscal responsibly includes making long-term investments that may cost more in moment but reap benefits for future generations. The more pernicious myth is that making a cheaper up-front investment for diminishing returns is somehow more responsive than long-term thinking.
@ZontarDow
Жыл бұрын
@@kms1.62 Yes that is true, I'm not opposed to transit because of it, but I am opposed to most welfare programs for the same reason. If I could snap my fingers to make the US government spend a few hundred billion per year on transit programs, but to similarly cut welfare to a larger degree to balance the budget at the same time, I would.
@blakksheep736
Жыл бұрын
4:44 this is an interesting problem, and by interesting I mean awful. In the article they say "iPads full of voter data". The fact that private companies can have access to such data and can use it in such a matter, such as sabotaging the greater good for personal gain, is a heartbreaker. This is why data protection is important, and why we should be doing more about it.
@markstott6689
Жыл бұрын
That's why I appreciate the existence of GDPR in BritainandEurope. But of course, the Corporations of the USA would never allow for anything that takes power and influence away from them.
@ianhomerpura8937
Жыл бұрын
@@markstott6689 wait. What is GPDR?
@markstott6689
Жыл бұрын
@Ian Homer Pura General Data Protection Regulations. It's a European Union law protecting online data and personal privacy. It's illegal to use data for anything other than its original purpose. The penalties can be steep if data is misused or used without permission. Edit: It's why even now, some US websites aren't accessible to anyone covered by GDPR because some websites in the US won't protect personal data.
@contrapunctusmammalia3993
Жыл бұрын
@@markstott6689 no one tell the uk government, if they learn this is a thing they'll for sure nullify gdpr
@blakksheep736
Жыл бұрын
@@contrapunctusmammalia3993 why on earth would they do that?
@colbystearns5238
Жыл бұрын
It's refreshing to hear someone actually defend this project for a change, I'm sick of the cynical manufactured outrage astroturfed by oil companies I see in every article and comment page.
@JefffRushton
Жыл бұрын
I just want to be able to watch movies and play mobile games while I get transported to my destination
@Milnoc
Жыл бұрын
I rode the Shinkansen in 2019. So fast and convenient! And so many departures!
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