See the full interview with Gary Bates here: kzitem.info/news/bejne/sYBqs3idi4GXmmk For more information and further reading, see: → Do I have to believe in a literal creation to be a Christian? - creation.com/do-i-have-to-believe-in-a-literal-creation-to-be-a-christian → Is it ok to be a Christian and believe in evolution? - creation.com/ok-christian-evolution → Perils of Theistic Evolution - creation.com/perils-theistic-evolution → Does theistic evolution take away the need for God? - creation.com/theistic-evolution-need-god
@lollys2galaxy317
4 ай бұрын
I am a scientist, even if I am the last man on earth to believe in creation, I will stay firm in my faith. I believe God is my father, creator and savior. 🙏
@JustMe-wo8lg
4 ай бұрын
Then you are not a scientist. If you don't let the evidence lead you to a conclusion rather than the other way around, you are not a scientist.
@DLF218
4 ай бұрын
Please tell me, what scientific insight led you to this?
@Weserman75
3 ай бұрын
Belief without evidence is unscientific. Christians would say: Repent.
@lollys2galaxy317
3 ай бұрын
@JustMe-wo8lg so many evidences show that .most shared views on evolution are not well debated and challenged.
@lollys2galaxy317
3 ай бұрын
@JustMe-wo8lg being a scientist is more than gathering evidences, being scientist is above all how you do and interpret. Moreover not every scientist thinks being a scientist first. I am a human first. Same thing in mathematics, your referential is key.
@IAMhassentyou
4 ай бұрын
You can believe it but it won't draw you closer to God. In fact, it will only confuse you. I think at times we forget as believers a lot of the erroneous things we used to believe in when we were young Christians but God has to slowly work out those things from our life. Give them time and hopefully many of the ones who believe evolution will come around. Once they see that it is not of God and does not fit the Bible, hopefully they will be humble enough to stop resisting the Holy Spirit.
@oldtimerlee8820
4 ай бұрын
I'm one who came to reject my theistic evolutionist, indoctrinated, viewpoint. Thought I knew exactly how God went about creation, starting with the Big Bang millions, no billions, of years ago.
@IAMhassentyou
4 ай бұрын
@@oldtimerlee8820 praise God! That's a great testimony
@Tungchano
4 ай бұрын
Here's the problem with this reasoning: if you as Christian rejects even 1 verse in God's word then you've rejected Him. There's no getting away from that. If He's concerned about a "jot and a tittle" then He'll be even more concerned about a word or verse.
@IAMhassentyou
4 ай бұрын
@@Tungchano yes. You got it. Read Proverbs 30:5,6
@Tungchano
4 ай бұрын
@@IAMhassentyou I did , exactly.
@SK-bw2cv
4 ай бұрын
They can. The question is should they? The answer, if they want to be true to God's word, is no.
@houmm08
4 ай бұрын
Evolution isn't something you 'believe in'. The usual apologist false equivalence, so boring
@timkolbrink3249
4 ай бұрын
Yeah it is a fact and not something to believe or not believe in
@kiwisaram9373
3 ай бұрын
@@timkolbrink3249if it were a fact, they really should stop calling it a theory!
@timkolbrink3249
3 ай бұрын
@@kiwisaram9373 you have no idea what a scientific theory is. Google the meaning of scientific theory
@timkolbrink3249
3 ай бұрын
@@kiwisaram9373 A scientific theory is an explanation of an aspect of the natural world and universe that can be (or a fortiori, that has been) repeatedly tested and corroborated in accordance with the scientific method, using accepted protocols of observation, measurement, and evaluation of results. Where possible, some theories are tested under controlled conditions in an experiment. In circumstances not amenable to experimental testing, theories are evaluated through principles of abductive reasoning. Established scientific theories have withstood rigorous scrutiny and embody scientific knowledge.
@ryancruz1876
3 ай бұрын
@@kiwisaram9373Was the scientific method not taught wherever you went to school? Or do you just honestly think the “theory” and “hypothesis” are the same thing? 🥴
@livelife7011
4 ай бұрын
I want to thank God for creating me an atheist!!
@truthisbeautiful7492
4 ай бұрын
What do you mean?
@RyanJones-ew8vm
4 ай бұрын
👏
@davidblackburn3396
4 ай бұрын
You said it, pal! 😀
@armysapper12b
4 ай бұрын
Yes and I would also like to thank Thor and Odin for my friendship with the Hobbits and leprechauns. 😂
@kiwisaram9373
3 ай бұрын
Why thank Him for something you did yourself?
@dougmaclean6181
4 ай бұрын
We don’t get the idea man can fly from the Bible. This is the logical fallacy of saying you don’t get evolution from the Bible. Something can be true even if the Bible may be silent on a topic. One must debate the actual evidence.
@truthisbeautiful7492
4 ай бұрын
Certainly it can be true that something can be true that isn't mentioned in the Scriptures, and the idea that mixing universal common ancestry and millions of years into the Christian religion leads to logical inconsistencies. Both can be true, right?
@dougmaclean6181
4 ай бұрын
@@truthisbeautiful7492 I am after truth, not logical inconsistency, although a logical inconsistency does have a bearing on the truth. You are presenting a philosophical framework here, not the evidence. A logical inconsistency becomes more important if it is a primary issue. Millions of years does not bother me as much as the argument that humans are merely animals and not made in the image of God.
@newcreationinchrist1423
4 ай бұрын
Amen CMI 🙂🙏✝️ evolution stems from a naturalistic worldview and Christians who add it into scripture are in error. They're adding to God's word which is forbidden (Proverbs 30:6). Perhaps in their mind they are trying to reconcile their faith with what human beings believe but there is a lot of trouble awaiting the person who makes that attempt. It is best not to listen to the ungodly or stand in the path of sinners or sit in the seat of the scornful (Psalm 1).
@oldtimerlee8820
4 ай бұрын
The problem is perhaps an hour or 2 in church on Sunday and 5 days a week in secular education. That, definitely, was my problem, many years ago. *Theistic evolution was the only way I could reconcile what I was being taught by those I was taught to respect* . An hour, a week, of Sunday school instruction compared to 5 days a week of secular public school indoctrination. I was taught so much, that has since then been proved to be wrong. The Piltdown man fake and the Nebraska man who turned out to be a pig's tooth are two examples, of many.
@PatrickSteil
4 ай бұрын
Question. Are Christians supposed to be a religion that recognizes Gods revelation to us in the natural world as well as His revelation in the Church and Scripture? Is it adding to “God’s Word” when we recognize the Truth of what he has spoken into existence? I am not advocating that we should buy into evolution at all. I don’t think it holds water at least not at the macro level. But can we allow the natural world to teach us more about Gods revelation even if it isn’t in the Bible?
@oldtimerlee8820
4 ай бұрын
@@PatrickSteil If it (in appropriate form / context) can't be found in the Bible, how do you separate the wheat from the chaff that is present in this world? Psalms 19:1 tells us the heavens declare His glory, yet Isaiah 47:13-14 tells warns us of the fate of astrologers, and such. One of my favorite pairings of verses are Proverbs 2:3-6 (OT) and 2 Tim 2:25 (NT), that may apply here. When we ask, God grants wisdom and knowledge. We then must do our part to rightly divide the scriptures. Matthew 5:39 - search the scriptures ... Acts 17:11 Bereans searching the scriptures ... They are 2 more witnesses of where we shall look to find the truth.
@newcreationinchrist1423
4 ай бұрын
@@PatrickSteil hello my friend. Well, creation testifies to the existence of God. That much is true. That is what is called general revelation. In a general sense, creation points to God. The Bible is part of what is known as special revelation. It goes into the specifics of how we are saved (by grace through faith), who saves us (Jesus) and why (because we are all sinners in need of salvation). The entire book, front to back, is about our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.
@newcreationinchrist1423
4 ай бұрын
@@PatrickSteil the problem comes when people take the general revelations of nature, distort them and allow them to supercede God's word. God's word supercedes anything. If someone believes they've got a revelation of God that contradicts scripture, scripture takes precedence and it should be rejected as false. Hope that helps. 🙂🙏
@oldtimerlee8820
4 ай бұрын
As a former theistic evolutionist - AMEN!
@refuse2bdcvd324
4 ай бұрын
Jesus never referred to his followers as Christians. Anyone can call himself a Christian and believe whatever he choses. Jesus referred to people who accepted him as his disciples, his friends, his followers. We know we are his disciples if we believe and obey what he says.
@chadwickdavis1749
4 ай бұрын
The two don’t mix! You either believe or you don’t!
@ryancruz1876
3 ай бұрын
Reality doesn’t care what you believe.
@ninaa_luciic
10 күн бұрын
What people don't seem to understand is that evolution isn't about monkeys somehow becoming humans, but about genes that mix during consummation. If I see a horses and a zebras having a babies which will later lead to that species becoming dominant, I surely wouldn't say "This disproves God!"
@janetkoulis7887
4 ай бұрын
Well said.
@patrickr9642
4 ай бұрын
I always wanted to meet friendly aliens from the bible points to them being fallen angels oh well I can wait for haven
@PsiRipples
4 ай бұрын
If you can believe the world flooded, all the animals lived for a year on a tiny boat in harmony. Evolution should be easy peasy to believe in.
@sbgtrading
4 ай бұрын
You can believe in anything you like...but if evolution is a scientific subject, then belief is not permitted. You need clear evidence and, more importantly, demonstration.
@JustMe-wo8lg
4 ай бұрын
@@sbgtrading Luckily, we have mountains of evidence for evolution.
@truthisbeautiful7492
4 ай бұрын
It was a huge ship and only a small number of animals - mammals, reptiles, birds, for example were on the Ark - so only thousands of animals. Noah's Ark: A Feasibility Study demonstrates with evidence that you can easily fit the air breathing land animals that were on the Ark. Even if you put amphibians and you board dinosaurs on there is plenty of room for food, water, etc. the studies have been done and the math works. Ventilation works too. You are aware that ships move animals all over the world today, just as they did before air travel? And that ancient peoples had zoos, and zoos handle animals normally? Ships work, zoos work - and this particular floating zoo works just fine. Have you read Noah's Ark: How it Worked? The various evolutionary fairy tales like life from non life or an eternal universe or a universe from nothing seem absurd in comparison.
@JustMe-wo8lg
4 ай бұрын
@@truthisbeautiful7492 except that a huge wooden boat would sink in the first wave and a small number of animals would mean that you'd need ultra hyper super mega impossibly fast evolution after the flood to get to the species we have today. Literally nothing about that story is even possible.
@nigellegg6105
4 ай бұрын
@@truthisbeautiful7492 Delusional thinking.
@RidetheGeoffening
2 ай бұрын
No matter how insistent Gould was , especially in his latter years trying to reconcile his faith with his enviable scientific works and knowledge, there is no case for non overlapping magisteria. Never the twain shall meet. One evokes magic , the other , observations aimed at establishing comprehensive collective data sets and predictive modeling of reality.
@OregonDARRYL
4 ай бұрын
Why wouldn't evolution be God experimenting? ... IF you believe...
@kiwisaram9373
3 ай бұрын
What kind of God needs to learn by experimenting? You need not have any confidence in such a god. Could a god who needs to learn even begin to be called God? All of history may in fact be about our coming to the conclusion that it is about our coming to see there is no satisfactory end to unbelief.
@cooperthatguy1271
4 ай бұрын
That’s applying an anthropomorphic characterization of animal life, death, and existence. YEC will always make themselves feel like orthodox people but they’re just as modernized as anyone else.
@georg7120
2 ай бұрын
But that is right, the god of the old testament is cruel.
@gabrielteo3636
4 ай бұрын
Then God is a cruel creator. He drowns babies and also let's them die of bone cancer. Yes, God is a cruel creator.
@kiwisaram9373
3 ай бұрын
You too? At least God can and is willing to raise them to be with Him but men can only guarantee them pain and suffering.
@sebastianstehr106
4 ай бұрын
My wife is a senior sceintist that belive werry muchts in God. belive is somting you chose to mentaly like a wish or your dream. Evelution is the fact's we no so far.. in the future they might get conected god and evelotion ❤
@kiwisaram9373
3 ай бұрын
If it is a fact then by all means turn a fish into a cat.
@sebastianstehr106
3 ай бұрын
@@kiwisaram9373 wel when you turn your God into the fact Come back and then we see good luck
@Tungchano
4 ай бұрын
The short answer is no. God doesn't like half measures, you're either 100% for Him or not at all. Even Darwin himself admitted before his death that he made a mistake, yet so-called scientists cling to this falsehood.
@ArcherMVMaster
4 ай бұрын
Darwin admitting that he made a mistake IS the falsehood. His theory were proven right even after his death.
@vladtheemailer3223
4 ай бұрын
It should be easy to prove wrong if it is. Why hasn't that happened?
@Tungchano
4 ай бұрын
@@vladtheemailer3223 It has happened, yet there's an agenda being pushed, over and over again. The other issue is that God also doesn't want to be worshiped with the ways of other gods. It's time that we realise that evolution is another religion and not anything close to science.
@vladtheemailer3223
4 ай бұрын
@Tungchano Evolution is a fact, and neither you nor anyone else will prove it wrong. Your only hope is to attack the scientists or create doubt. Stop making excuses and factually demonstrate it is wrong.
@Tungchano
4 ай бұрын
@@vladtheemailer3223 What part of evolution are you talking about?
@garypellerin5576
4 ай бұрын
That makes God a cruel creator. Dude, according to you he flooded and entire world, killed every human every living being on the planet except a family. You think that's less cruel than evolution?
@JaxdoesArt
4 ай бұрын
Nevermind the slavery and genocide
@geraldmansfield2631
4 ай бұрын
Zachariah Sitchin has translated many books.
@jcool0122
4 ай бұрын
You dont need to extrapolate from evolution to figure out that if there is a god, he's a cruel creator. All you have to do is thumb through the Old Testament..
@kiwisaram9373
3 ай бұрын
And athiests would demand the law of the jungle is a better way to live? The survival of the fittest is not exactly compassionate nor gives the weak or the sick much hope. That God deals with evil as evil demands should not surprise anyone and certainly even the demonic would understand the righteous going to war against evil incarnate. Don't begin to suggest you would not have gone to war against the Nazi.
@jcool0122
3 ай бұрын
@@kiwisaram9373 your lack of understanding is evident. Humanity is a social species. We have evolved empathy and compassion because it benefits us as a species. As for the nazis, I'm sure they didn't think what they were doing was evil. By the way, Hotler's Germany was a Christian nation.
@JACKnJESUS
4 ай бұрын
Since DNA tells us that genesis is a fable...we don't need to make comparisons...Christianity has already been proven to be a fable.
@kiwisaram9373
3 ай бұрын
What does it say? Does it say we are all descendants from the same ancestors? If it does, then not sure it is saying anything the bible hasn't already told us.
@JACKnJESUS
3 ай бұрын
@@kiwisaram9373 It tells us that the story of Genesis is a fable...zero percent chance of that being remotely true. It tells us there is no original sin. It tells us Jesus thought Genesis was true. It tells us Jesus didn't know...anything.
@roflmoomoo2098
4 ай бұрын
I don't understand how anyone can follow a book that condones slavery seven separate times. Cruel and disgusting. Exod 21:2-11; Lev 25:44-46 Eph 6:5-9; Col 3:22-4:1; 1 Tim 6:1-2; Tit 2:9-10; 1 Pet 2:18-20
@kiwisaram9373
3 ай бұрын
But surely athiests had slaves? How does evolution not condone the enslavement of lesser evolved men? What then is wrong with slavery and try not to use biblical justification for banning it.
@jaydrake5173
3 ай бұрын
Nothing wrong with both. Maybe millions of years of death had to happen for the world to be the way it is for humans
@Wretchlikemee
4 ай бұрын
2Pet. 3. [8] But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.
@kiwisaram9373
3 ай бұрын
That is just saying God has enough time in a day to deal with every event and is in no rush to get things done before the sun sets.
@Wretchlikemee
3 ай бұрын
@@kiwisaram9373 it also means that time does not effect God because God is outside of time
@Deadman1000
4 ай бұрын
Basically thiests just create their own reality and change the rules of their own "holy" books to fit their needs or pressed on their delusions
@kiwisaram9373
3 ай бұрын
Is it delusional to see evil and wickedness? While complaining about the idea of pain and suffering athiests guarantee its existence by saying there is no moral law and we are our own gods who must strive against those who oppose our lawlessness. Ther is no good or evil, right or wrong is more delusional given the continual complaints about such things.
@livelife7011
4 ай бұрын
Ridiculousness!!!
@kiwisaram9373
3 ай бұрын
It would be ridiculous for someone to create something for no reason and with no purpose and which causes more harm than good and that is what athiests claim life is. Meaninglessness is Ridiculous. Trying to create your own meaning in the absence of meaning, is the height of Ridiculousness.
@sahabajeibi
Ай бұрын
Hey, all of this is a fact unlike any of your Bible stories you blindly believe in.
@NeoSumarian
4 ай бұрын
Yep
@dforeman0007
4 ай бұрын
Yes
@russellh9894
4 ай бұрын
So then he's stuck in his religion. Evolution by means of natural selection is a fact. Change in allele frequency over time is a fact. But if he starts with his belief in his religion, he has to completely ignore the science. Hopefully, fewer and fewer people like him work in the government. Otherwise, we'd be headed for another dark age.
@kiwisaram9373
3 ай бұрын
Science is a cruel god. If evolution were a fact it should be demonstrably repeatable in a lab. They can now produce diamonds in a lab that were thought to have taken millions of years to produce so if they can do the same with evolution of animals species wouldn't that merely suggest they are creators of such and it would not otherwise have happened?
@tonyisnotdead
29 күн бұрын
@@kiwisaram9373it doesn't need to be repeatable in a lab when there's plenty of evidence to support it
@hyfy-tr2jy
4 ай бұрын
God...if you believe the bible...was a cruel creator...I mean heck he killed all the Egyptian babies because they wouldn't listen to him...heck he killed off ALL people (except 8)....how is that not cruel?
@sbgtrading
4 ай бұрын
God's moral code and justice system is perfect. He knows everyone completely and does nothing capriciously or with inequity. He loves you and is willing to pay for your many crimes and moral failures! Jesus is the way, the truth and the life!
@hyfy-tr2jy
4 ай бұрын
@ding yet why does God not apply his own moral code upon himself? Why is it ok for God to be a mass murder just because he feels slighted? Should God not be considered a sinner himself? Who does God pay homage to then to beg for forgiveness? Might there be a God greater than him that he bows to? Until the day you show me the original writings, in the original hand, on the original parchment of those who "bore witness" I will always define the bible as nothing more than "The Canterbury Tales of Christianity"
@Tungchano
4 ай бұрын
@@hyfy-tr2jy Currently there's over 9500 parchments etc. which corroborate the Bible, the Bible were written by 40 different people who were eyewitnesses to the events over approximately 1500 years, each during the lifetime of other eyewitnesses. Prophesying on events that have come to fruition during the lifetime of the other writers 100s of years apart! Then there's one central character, one single message that is drawn from Genesis to Revelation. I suggest that you read it, start at Matthew and read right through till you end there again. Ask God to reveal Himself and see what happens.
@Tungchano
4 ай бұрын
If you create a robot and it starts to malfunction, do you leave it be or do you make repairs? If you find that no repair will be fixing it, don't you scrap it completely and build something else? God's not cruel but just! He's our Creator, if we have behaviour that deserves death, it's His divine choice to rectify it. You want to use Gods morals to judge Him. Get to know Him so that you can know your place. He's the One worthy to judge, not us. I pray that you'll meet Him soon, and be saved.
@hyfy-tr2jy
4 ай бұрын
@@Tungchano by your example you suggest the we as humans have no free will. A robot it programed to do a specific task and has no choice to do it or not. The Bible says God gave us free will or to use your example a robot with free will might not work today but tomorrow, without intervention, might start working perfectly fine....would you scrap that robot if it didn't work today but might do so tomorrow? If you did wouldn't that be cruel and a waste? I am sure you will respond with "but God knows all and sees all and knows if you will change your ways" so if that is the case then it would be cruel for God to make you in the first place if he knew he was going to scrap you. Based on the worldly experiences of humanity it is clear that if there is a God...he is either all knowing but not all powerful or all powerful but not all knowing and if the Bible insists he is both then the most logical reality is he is neither and doesn't exist at all.
@sebastianstehr106
4 ай бұрын
So if evolution comes from cruel idea's then explain the evolution of the bible from the old testament to the new testament? hmmm gues its evil idea's in the new testament then 😢
@journathan
4 ай бұрын
The theory of evolution is different than evolving from point a to point b. The goal of school is to evolve ones intellect and we see how that turned out
@sebastianstehr106
4 ай бұрын
@@journathan wel if you ment the evolution of Usa we all see your point but fact is a fact the bible we follow is reritten to fitt the power in this world not to fitt God, grew up dont be a sinner Amen
@knightatthecrossroads222
4 ай бұрын
Well the God himself created Earth so what is he??? The idea of extraterrestials is in the Bible.
@kiwisaram9373
3 ай бұрын
The desire of athiests for space buddies may comfort them for a while but after so long and with no evidence it just becomes tiresome.
@stevengreen6727
4 ай бұрын
Also, i think its important to specify if we're talking about Micro or Macro evolution.
@vladtheemailer3223
4 ай бұрын
Macro is a whole lot of micro.
@stevengreen6727
4 ай бұрын
@@vladtheemailer3223 Yea could be, we have no way to verify that via observation, though. There is still a distinction between the 2, however, which is why I bring them up
@vladtheemailer3223
4 ай бұрын
@stevengreen6727 You don't understand then. All evolution is micro. Things like family and clade are distinctions made by humans in order to categorize. They are somewhat arbitrary. It's sad how many creationists do not know that.
@stevengreen6727
4 ай бұрын
@@vladtheemailer3223 okay. I wasn't looking to have a scientific debate, I was just stating for specification. I've made no claims.
@vladtheemailer3223
4 ай бұрын
@stevengreen6727 I just want to clarify that for people. There is a huge misunderstanding about the issue.
@davidblackburn3396
4 ай бұрын
Of course I am an atheist. I have actually read the Bible. Mark Twain
@kiwisaram9373
3 ай бұрын
Reading and understanding are two different things. My 5 year old can read but does fully understand, so are you confessing something here?
@armysapper12b
4 ай бұрын
So just believe in an ancient book of lies and misinformation, but scientific facts and evidence are off limits. Such an ignorant and dishonest view of reality. You cannot truly believe both science and religion, at least we agree on that.
@kiwisaram9373
3 ай бұрын
We agree on very little. How would you then account for scientists who believe in God?
@armysapper12b
3 ай бұрын
@@kiwisaram9373 I think it’s fine if their research and teaching is not impacted with religious views. Most reconcile their views as god started it all, like god was the Big Bang or something like that. I think being an archaeologist, evolutionary biologist or cosmologist, to name a few, is contradictory to religion. You literally have to ignore or deny actual scientific evidence to justify your belief in gods. I have a friend that was very religious and became a microbiologist and a year before he graduated became an atheist. He said he couldn’t believe both and to do so was disingenuous. Most scientists that believe in god, has their whole life and it’s an adoptive behavior through family and social pressures at a young age. Again, I don’t care if a scientist is religious, just don’t conflate the two. Religion doesn’t rely on evidence, only faith. Science relies on factual, testable and repeatable evidence and/or data. Scientific theories are not based on one ancient text and faith, it’s based on facts and evidence of reality.
@maciejzielinski9214
4 ай бұрын
Cruel creator that does not exist.
@kiwisaram9373
3 ай бұрын
To claim to know that there is no creator would be a claim to superior knowledge. Would you then also possess a knowledge of all things given such a claim? Or is your claim merely a confession of your own ignorance of God?
@maciejzielinski9214
3 ай бұрын
What ignorance? You are claiming that the creator exist - what are the evidence? Show me please some evidence of the creator. The burden of proving a claim is on the person making a claim. You cannot because there are no evidence. I do not posses superior knowlage, I do not need it to denai existance ofa a god or godz.
@TaimazHavadar
4 ай бұрын
خوبه این تکامل را که اشتباهه اینها پیدا نکردند اگر یافته ی خودشون بود که الان جنگ مسلحانه شروع شده بود😂😂
@maxipaw-dc5xj
4 ай бұрын
You won't get any good ideas from the Bible
@journathan
4 ай бұрын
You won't get any good ideas from most people. The Bible can help guide you to finding good ideas if you're not so mad at it for existing. Book burning is always bad
@The-die-youve-created
4 ай бұрын
You can believe in the Easter Bunny, the Tooth Fairy and Batman. But rest assured, God is almost as real as they are.
@kiwisaram9373
3 ай бұрын
So if a christian does not believe in the easter bunny, the tooth fairy and batman that would undermine your unbelief?
@The-die-youve-created
3 ай бұрын
@@kiwisaram9373 who are you?
@beefsupreme4671
4 ай бұрын
I think that most new Christian’s will believe in evolution for a while. As you grow in Christ you will learn to trust the word of shod more than the lies of men. Then avid will show you truth that will leave you shaking in your boots and humbled that the God of creation cares so much for a little bug like me.
@ryancruz1876
3 ай бұрын
Okay. But you do understand that evolution is still happening whether you believe in or not, don’t you? 🥴
@beefsupreme4671
3 ай бұрын
@@ryancruz1876 lol you are so confused. Evolution is the addition of information to DNA. This has never been observed. Is not possible and will never happen. Everything you think is evolution is actually the opposite of evolution. As losing information from DNA happens and is observed all the time. It also fits either a well known natural process that is a law of science called entropy.
@jasonhayward6965
4 ай бұрын
Wow insane sounds like rhis
@kiwisaram9373
3 ай бұрын
Pretty sure you say that about everyone who does not think the way you do, which is insane in itself given you would have to confess you do not know it all and could be wrong about many things but just don't know it yet.
@zoesosa7524
Ай бұрын
@@kiwisaram9373 same way with you commenting on any post that a poses your faith. There is not one human that understands everything, whether you read the bible or not people are going to have experiences in life. Those experiences is what opens your eyes and be willing to learn from others. So dont be so defensive if it upsets you just click off the reel that simple.
@patrickm3807
4 ай бұрын
Those who believe we evolved from dust after the Big Bang obviously don't understand entropy v creation.
@alflyle9955
4 ай бұрын
People who think that the evolution of life is precluded by entropy obviously don't understand physics or entropy.
@kiwisaram9373
3 ай бұрын
Is that why comic books see super heroes being created from nuclear accidents?
@oscarsilva4120
4 ай бұрын
Anything existing is the work of God , including evolution..... In order for a living thing to evolve it's got to come into existence....
@JustMe-wo8lg
3 ай бұрын
"In order for a living thing to evolve it's got to come into existence.." - Yes....And???? That doesn't mean that it must have been done by a magic space wizard.
@oscarsilva4120
3 ай бұрын
There are no space wizards or an invisible hand with a purpose....I meant God that of an intelligence force building and destroying without perhaps any purpose. Us humans are a byproduct of this intelligence force that some have the desire to call it GOD, with a purpose .
@JustMe-wo8lg
3 ай бұрын
@@oscarsilva4120 The is no evidence of any intelligent force.
@muldrewdennis2837
4 ай бұрын
The Bible is ridiculous at best.
@kiwisaram9373
3 ай бұрын
What is ridiculous? That we should love our enemies and do unto others as we would have them do unto us? It may be ridiculous to abandon the law of the jungle, if you are a predator.
@muldrewdennis2837
3 ай бұрын
@@kiwisaram9373 remember: Nazis were called Christians before WW2.
@JustMe-wo8lg
3 ай бұрын
@@kiwisaram9373 Nice cherry picking....
@geraldmansfield2631
4 ай бұрын
Simply put, the gay padres that translated the Bible, were suspost to translate all 100,000 books of the Royal Yahweh Library. Anu Yahweh despised the gay priests. Because Gay men do not enter heaven, All were told that they would not be able to Ascend after they died.
@geraldmansfield2631
4 ай бұрын
Therefore the sinning priests did a lousy job. Get your answers by reading the untranslated books.I perfer the "Lost Book Of Enki". He is a Brother to Jesus Yahweh. Both are immortal.
@all_bets_on_Ganesh
4 ай бұрын
It is true, you will not find evolution in the bible. Nor will you find anything about modern physics, chemistry, medicine, geology, morality, etc. It would have been impressive if it did. But it doesnt even come close.
@Tungchano
4 ай бұрын
No it doesn't, it defines all of those!
@broeklien3817
4 ай бұрын
he who knows it all is ignorant of Gods creation. We can never finish learning from Gods creation. We need to remain open to ideas and in awe of the beauty of creation through science.
@SK-bw2cv
4 ай бұрын
As long as evolution isn't part of that equation
@ArcherMVMaster
4 ай бұрын
What a farce 😂 The bible already does a pretty good job at describing God as a cruel creator. Just look at his kill count and all the times he ''punished'' people, especially innocent ones.
@sbgtrading
4 ай бұрын
Punishment is only cruel if it's not in accord with the crime.
@ArcherMVMaster
4 ай бұрын
@@sbgtrading well I'm glad you say that, because that's exactly what happens many times in the bible. Like how God made David's child suffer for a whole week before killing him for the sins of David, or how he killed the first borns of Egypt because of Pharaoh.
@truthisbeautiful7492
4 ай бұрын
I've read the Bible, and the Creator never punished anyone who is innocent. You must be talking about something else. It's not 'cruel' to punish evil, even if you don't like it.
@truthisbeautiful7492
4 ай бұрын
@@ArcherMVMasterand never does the Scripture say those people were innocent. Besides David says he will go to his dead son, so his son went to Heaven. So you are assuming a logical inconsistency by adding something that isn't even in the text. That isn't logical.
@ArcherMVMaster
4 ай бұрын
@@truthisbeautiful7492 It doesn't matter where David's son went after death, you're shifting the goalposts. My point is that God made him sick for a week and killed him. A newborn child was made to suffer for sins he didn't commit. What evil did that child commit ? And don't play that ''scripture never said they were innocent'' bullshit game. It's extremely disingenuous. Because scripture doesn't say that David's child went to heaven either. You're making an inference and the same can be done about the first born of Egypt. This dishonest form argumentation to defend the evil actions of the God you believe in, is disgusting.
@Notrocketscience101
4 ай бұрын
If an all powerful god exhorted, it could only be evil.
@sbgtrading
4 ай бұрын
God could be evil...but the truth is he is good! He is the righteous judge of all the Earth!
@truthisbeautiful7492
4 ай бұрын
What do you mean?
@ChaosExplained
4 ай бұрын
Hey that's what we have!
@SK-bw2cv
4 ай бұрын
What?
@lawrenceolteanu7234
3 ай бұрын
BS Answer. the answer is no
@bigscreenbird8198
4 ай бұрын
Your “god” is a cruel creator.
@sbgtrading
4 ай бұрын
Evolution is a cruel creator/destroyer. Your moral pronouncements aren't all that valuable. If God is the supreme authority, then you are evil, cruel, and deceitful. But God loves you and he is willing to pay for your many crimes and moral failures! Jesus is the way, the truth and the life!
@truthisbeautiful7492
4 ай бұрын
No, because the millions of years never happened. There is no good evidence for it, just bad evidence.
@sarumano884
4 ай бұрын
Strange that the Bible evolved into the book it is now.
@BCFalls1
4 ай бұрын
my christianity is from the second century uncorrupted by the Conqueror, which predates anything you are referring to, you are so wrong
@sarumano884
4 ай бұрын
@@BCFalls1 WHAT?? a)Where did that one come from b) I care not where your version of Christianity came from, or when. That has no effect at all on the fact that the Bible has evolved into the book that it now is.
@BCFalls1
4 ай бұрын
It is identical to the 1600's when the KJV met the Geneva, they were identical in the 1500's when the printing press was invented so we could all get copies, it was identical to what the Priests had, they only preached what they wanted to as they still do today, cherry pick from it, it was the same texts as the council of Nicea, which was the same "wording" the Culdees taught by word of mouth and memory of men with great minds and memories, which was the same as the Disciples taught of the new testament which the old testament is the same as my Hebrew roots as Celts which was the same as the days of Moses, so no, I have no clue what evolution you are talking about other than from word of mouth to the written word? That is not evolution, just a more permanent form. @@sarumano884
@BCFalls1
4 ай бұрын
anyone who changes the words or evolves anything farther than what it is, will be damned for an eternity. It is actually quite simple and it all points to one thing, Seek the grail and the grail is the Holy, Spirit filled heart as grail is translated from the Latin Cor and Cor literally means Heart. Holy Heart. Seek the Spirit with all your heart, mind and soul and there are no rituals or worshipping, or sabbaths, or sacrifices anymore as Jesus was that sacrifice, even eternally sacrificing for us. It is just a bunch of accounts of the same thing, Even the Dead Sea scrolls had nothing to add and they were hidden away for Centuries.
@sarumano884
4 ай бұрын
@@BCFalls1Really? Council of Nicaea removed 23 books from the Bible, because they didn't accord with the 'facts' that they wanted known: Mary Protevangelion I. Infancy II. Infancy Nicodemus Christ and Abgarus Laodiceans Paul and Seneca Acts of Paul and Thecla I. Clement II. Clement Barnabas Ephesians Magnesians Trallians Romans Philadelphians Smyrnaeans Polycarp Philippians I. Hermas-Visions II. Hermas-Commands III. Hermas-Similitudes Was the Council of Nicaea "Damned for all eternity"? or perhaps (Whisper it) they were propagandists for Christianity, and would brook no dissension on "the Truth", or "Pravda" if you want it in Russian.
@2911721905
4 ай бұрын
Sure you can..just leave religion out of the lab.
@truthisbeautiful7492
4 ай бұрын
But the laws of physics are fine tuned for life, and life only comes from life. And those who have affirmed belief in the Creator are some of the greatest scientists of the past, such as Newton, Faraday, or Maxwell.
@greensahuaro2834
4 ай бұрын
Yes! Volcanos and oceans created "mud" and life began!
@SK-bw2cv
4 ай бұрын
No.....volcanoes and oceans don't "create" anything. Lol
@SK-bw2cv
4 ай бұрын
The only thing they created is rocks (volcanoes) and erosion on beaches (oceans).
@nigellegg6105
4 ай бұрын
You know we’re descended from primates right
@sarumano884
4 ай бұрын
We ARE primates. Look up the definition. We evolved WITH primates.
@SK-bw2cv
4 ай бұрын
Nope
@SK-bw2cv
4 ай бұрын
@@sarumano884 nope
@nigellegg6105
4 ай бұрын
@@sarumano884 Yep, definitely!
@sarumano884
4 ай бұрын
@@SK-bw2cvCollins dictionary::A primate is a member of the group of mammals which includes humans, monkeys, and apes.
@steventufte4450
4 ай бұрын
No
@Yvonne-
4 ай бұрын
I renounced christianity, the jman, or ever calling our Yahuah Alahim by titles anything can and do use, god and lord. Christianity is a spin off of Catholicism and many, many Catholics believe in evolution. However I've never heard of a Christian believing in evolution.
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