Holding down-back charges both Sonic Boom and Flash Kick, so Guile crouching is both optimal for his gameplay and a meme of sorts amongst Street Fighter players lol
@luackx
2 жыл бұрын
I was going to comment the same thing. *The turtle is eternal*
@redleaf4941
2 жыл бұрын
Nice
@Jason_Altea
2 жыл бұрын
I believe Maximilian Dood caught on to that right away when they showed it off. Classic Guile turtling.
@pallukun
2 жыл бұрын
i always thought that guile spamming projectiles from a squat was some kind of jab at guile players
@Jason_Altea
2 жыл бұрын
@@pallukun It is, because it's incredibly cheap even if it is an optimal mix up. By constantly crouch blocking, it effectively enables Guile to become a very annoying zoner that also doesn't immediately crumple if you do manage to get in like a lot of zoners since he's still fully functional in close range. It effectively made the game no fun for anyone since it was a completely braindead zoning method with minimal requirements of having to think about when to use what. It turned the character into a two branch flowchart. Are they close to you? Yes -> Flash Kick No -> Sonic Boom Repeat
@UwULilyKitsune
2 жыл бұрын
i've been busy playing splatoon for like 2 weeks but i still love these videos and smash
@thestylemage2092
2 жыл бұрын
4:05 What about hitting Sephis counter with an attack strong enough to break it.
@ToastedAnt
2 жыл бұрын
What happens if you are off screen and you stage morph in to King of Fighters Stadium.
@creakingskull7008
2 жыл бұрын
Creaking Skull
@TheAAJYu
2 жыл бұрын
Small correction regarding Guile’s misinputed aerials. There is no sweetspot/sourspot because if you look closely, he’s doing a different kick. The weaker damaging one is his “Medium Kick” while the stronger one is his “Heavy Kick”. This also explains why his Flash Kick sometimes alternates between doing 16.9% and 17.6%. He’s doing two different versions of the same move, with the Heavy version doing marginally more damage and leaping higher into the air. Think of how if you tap Ken’s Shoryuken he does a regular uppercut that’s less powerful but more safe, and if you hold it he does the flaming version that’s more powerful but less safe.
@Ghaust8546
2 жыл бұрын
I think its more likely a neutral heavy kick
@AshZucchini8168
2 жыл бұрын
Street Fighter doesn’t have directional Aerials, so for Guile there’d be no such thing as a “neutral” jumping kick
@Scootapuff88
2 жыл бұрын
@@AshZucchini8168 That's not true. Most Street Fighter games have a different set of air normals depending on whether you persom a neutral jump vs a back/forward jump.
@Ghaust8546
2 жыл бұрын
@@AshZucchini8168 you cant choose while in midair but some aerials vary depending on whether you did a diagonal jump or a nwutral jump
@AshZucchini8168
2 жыл бұрын
@@Scootapuff88 oh true, I forgot about that. Derp.
@debornmc
2 жыл бұрын
It seems likely Mythra's landing lag is just programmed to be 1/3 less than Pyra's.
@YounesLayachi
2 жыл бұрын
Good catch
@Felipera_
2 жыл бұрын
is that true for all her moves?
@binarycat1237
2 жыл бұрын
yeah that's what i was thinking. the whole character is like, fast moves and stuff, so it makes sense.
@Sp3ctralI
2 жыл бұрын
Quick but not as damaging
@KainYusanagi
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, Mithra is coded to be lighter than Pyra, so it makes sense that they just lazy'd it.
@MatttGFX
2 жыл бұрын
Guile's assist trophy is a tribute solely dedicated to what Street Fighter players call "down-backing" It refers to when a player will just hold diagonally down and away from the opponent in order to charge both Sonic Boom and Flash Kick, since the directional input counts as both a down and a back input. This way, the player can camp while choosing whatever option fits their situation best - Sonic Booms for opponents that stay away, and Flash Kick when they decide to jump in with an unsafe option. Additionally, holding down and back like this also let's them block any incoming attacks, which the assist trophy also mirrors :)
@Felipera_
2 жыл бұрын
and the jump missinput only happens when you jump in, meaning, this Guile plays like a noob. Turtling all game, and messing up his anti airs.
@hyliandoctor
2 жыл бұрын
@@Felipera_ That said, you can still do j.HK as an air-to-air to catch their jump, keep your opponent close, hold down-back through the jump, and start doing blockstrings into Sonics, or close HP > Flash Kick to confirm damage or whatever until you're back in zoning range.
@dc_dachi
2 жыл бұрын
Down-backing also allows you to crouch block as you charge, meaning opponents need to jump in or use an overhead, which is usually reactable. This further compliments his gameplan because he can anti-air jump ins with Flash Kick. Assist trophy Guile also crouch blocks and anti-airs with Flash Kick.
@captainphoton1693
2 жыл бұрын
The guile fact is so cool. So for a quick explanation about why he is always crouching, it's because in fighting games, most charge character have both a down charge and a back charge, in this case flash kick and sonic boom. And you can charge both at the same time by holding diagonal down back. The joke here is that in sf2 projectiles were super broken, so guildes would spam it. And because the best way of avoiding projectiles is jumping above them, an anti air is a good counter against that. Now the problem is that charge anti air specials are way stronger than motion anti air special. Because you can't use them on reaction. But guile is sf2 didn't care, they spammed a broken projectile and charged the very move that counter the best way of dealing with this projectiles. Now it's possible to catch him by jumping fast on him. Forced to use the move as soon as it charge you often see miss imput. Now why there is no sonic boom miss imput, because that's easy to not do any and there is no urgency to do them.
@YounesLayachi
2 жыл бұрын
Woah, OG meta
@luackx
2 жыл бұрын
As a Guile player, I can confirm that I'm a flash kick bot
@coreydopson2030
2 жыл бұрын
Projectiles werent the broken thing about guile in SF2. Flashkick also wasnt used at all. The prevailing guile strat was j. Roundhouse into forward heavy for an actually inescapable throw loop because of how the frame data worked out and the fact teching throws didnt exist. Guile and dhalsim both were rush down characters despite being designed to be zoners
@captainphoton1693
2 жыл бұрын
@@coreydopson2030 there is a lot of sf2 version, we probably talk about 2 different ones.
@Felipera_
2 жыл бұрын
@@captainphoton1693 and it's clear this Guile is meant to represent the average FGC scrub. Not fucking Daigo Umehara.
@LilyLambda
2 жыл бұрын
Just checked some of the game's code- -The "nair" is actually two different moves: ---8hkair, which is 44 frames and does 15% ---9mkair, which is 34 frames and does 12% -In addition, sonic boom is called "guileshot" and flash kick is "summersault" -Interestingly, summersault also has a light and heavy variant with the same animations, one does 28%/26%, and the other 27%/25%
@nfsman3452
2 жыл бұрын
The names for the "nair" also are named after the respective attacks in SF2. 8hkair is his neutral jump heavy kick, and 9mkair is his diagonal jump medium kick. For context, buttons in Street Fighter are usually shortened to an acronym, like MK for medium kick, or HP for heavy punch And some games use "numpad" notation for the directions (so 8 would be up, 2 would be down, 4 and 6 would be back and forward, respectively)
@Felipera_
2 жыл бұрын
@@nfsman3452 furthermore, the numbers mean directions. look at your keyboard's numpad. 8 is straight up (neutral jump) 9 is a diagonal (up + right jump) it's a common notation in the FGC. great catch you guys!
@bb010g
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for checking the source!
@hyliandoctor
2 жыл бұрын
@@nfsman3452 Oh of course Sakurai uses numpad notation.
@jeremyabbott4537
2 жыл бұрын
@@nfsman3452 I like the inclusion of the 9mkair notation because it shows the Guile player has trouble consistently hitting the up direction when under pressure lol
@bonkers5451
2 жыл бұрын
That intro caught me off guard lol. I thought I had misclicked on the video. Another great vid!
@velvetbutterfly
2 жыл бұрын
1:35 my guess is it happens because of the Stumble animation when you're standing at a ledge so even though Fox is attacking he's considered tilted.
@bagelcat_
2 жыл бұрын
Can we appreciate how every time Game and Watch appears in a video he gets a 9 on the scene cut Edit: it showed up in the bingo, nice
@KangasKong9944
2 жыл бұрын
I’ve seen the ivysaur up b vibrate on the final hit kill screen so much, I thought that was what it looked like normally! That’s so interesting that’s it’s just a slowed down thing
@mythosinfinite6736
2 жыл бұрын
You actually perfectly nailed the two conditions you listed for misinputting Flash Kick. Great job!
@GriffithRex
2 жыл бұрын
If you play with assist trophies on, you can see in your “kills” at the menu after the match when an assist trophy gets a kill. It’s actually a very pretty logo for it too!
@infiltrate6807
2 жыл бұрын
I thought it was when you kill an assist trophy
@GriffithRex
2 жыл бұрын
@@infiltrate6807 I don’t think so, considering in the game I played I killed two assist trophies but only had one assist trophy kill, and the other person killed my assist trophies twice as well but didn’t have any of the symbols at the end of the game, but I might be mistaken since it was over a week ago now
@tjackknife6590
2 жыл бұрын
I think Mythra’s decreased landing lag with Trampoline does actually have something to do with her being switchable with Pyra, but I think it might be more than that. My theory is that Mythra’s “lag” values (end lag on moves, landing lag, etc) could have a unique multiplier when compared to Pyra. So that the moves could be easier to program. Let’s say Pyra’s the “definitive” character between the two. Mythra probably just has some multipliers in damage and lag and whatnot when performing the same move you would perform with Pyra and that could also apply to the landing lag on PAC-Man’s trampoline.
@protaytoeguy3133
2 жыл бұрын
i wonder if he tried Dr Mario. He also has just twitched Stats
@tjackknife6590
2 жыл бұрын
@@protaytoeguy3133 I think Dr. Mario is programmed as a different character entirely. Pyra and Mythra are explicitly designed around one another
@protaytoeguy3133
2 жыл бұрын
@@tjackknife6590 As far as i know Dr Marios Stats have a multiplier which changes them from Marios
@protaytoeguy3133
2 жыл бұрын
Thats also why if you look them up some of them have more decimal points
@tjackknife6590
2 жыл бұрын
@@protaytoeguy3133 Interesting. Hopefully PKBeats sees this.
@xraenon1664
2 жыл бұрын
Bit of a weird fact: Mario’s F.L.U.D.D. actually functions as a stream of special projectiles, which can benefit reflected individually.
@ieatformyfriends6411
2 жыл бұрын
Did you know that if you grab then pummel Olimar with Yoshi, his pikmin will lag out every time he gets hit?
@Burjwazy
2 жыл бұрын
Here’s a theory about Fox jab: The broken Fox animation definitely has to do with his programmed IK (inverse kinematics), which determine how his foot reacts to slopes. They didn’t turn this off for Fox in this animation, which causes his foot to try to make contact with the ground. I’d try this with Cloud’s foot to see if it happens there too, as it also is a rapid jab that ends in a foot over the edge and has IK scripts attached.
@Scootapuff88
2 жыл бұрын
Here's a potential explanation for the missinput chance only happening when you're jumping; since Flash Kick is primarily used as an anti-air option, jumping at someone can put mental pressure on them to "react" to your jump and thus lead to the misinputs. So not only is it simulating human error in the inputs but also potentially simulating the reasons behind those errors.
@GekTC
2 жыл бұрын
You forgot to test Mii Brawler's counter. Normally, it command-grabs you after triggering it, but what happens with Shadow's freeze frame and walking away..? Does it miss..? And if so, does it have an animation for that..?
@FlameUser64
2 жыл бұрын
Another counter to test might be Lucario's, just because it uses intangibility rather than the normal defensive collision.
@Jason_Altea
2 жыл бұрын
As someone who does play traditional fighting games fairly often, that explanation of Guile's mis-inputs was pretty accurate. It would either be from not holding crouch-block (down + back, since holding back is how you guard in most 2D fighting games like Street Fighter) long enough for Flash Kick to be usable or from simply missing the timing. Given how Guile's assist trophy works, I would assume it's caused by the former, where if the opponent is still nearby after the first Flash Kick and Guile attempts another it simply causes him to do a jumping heavy kick.
@Ed-1749
2 жыл бұрын
From the look of it, the misinput flashkick only happens when you're on the air. Notably, guile has 2 flashkicks he can use, one that in SF would be attatched to the light kick button and one for the heavy kick button. When you jump he does the heavy version, which has more ending lag but goes highern, hurts more, and presumably has more i frame coverage, but i doubt they went that far. The mis-input is a jump heavy kick, which would only come from heavy flashkick. This is probably because they wanted the misinput to still hit, and a jump light kick was one detail too much for an assist trophy.
@IMainLuigiInSmashBros
2 жыл бұрын
If I had to guess about Fox’s foot breaking like that, I would hazard a guess and say Fox is trying to stand on the edge of the stage. You can see it in some fighters’ feet when they’re stood on slants or ledges that their foot kinda hangs off the surface in front of them, or it’s positioned to match the stage geometry. Like if you stood on a pipe in Yoshi’s Island Melee I’m guessing Fox wants to both stand on the corner, and keep doing his rapid jab animation?
@robinrai4973
2 жыл бұрын
Maybe the fox foot thing is some inverse kinematics gone wrong? Who knows, homie's got dat osteoporosis
@Liggliluff
2 жыл бұрын
I suspect it's because it's still trying to put the feet on the ground, but the animation has an offset from the ground. So when the ground "disappears" (as he reaches over the ledge), wonky stuff happens
@Oretal
2 жыл бұрын
That misinput fact made me go “OOOOO WHOA” out loud. Also the barrels reusing the crate breaking animation is smart on the game dev side of things. Good shit 😎🤙
@charvisaur4184
2 жыл бұрын
I will never get tire of G&W randomly 9ing people as the camera cuts away.
@KINGD353
2 жыл бұрын
It feels so weird seeing basic fighting game knowledge as a random fun fact.
@reynXIII
2 жыл бұрын
I've just discoverded this. If you go to training mode with either Marth or Lucina, with a Meta Knight opponent (I tested and this does not work for Kirby) and spam side smash when training mode loads (it has to be in the training mode stage), the first 2 smash attacks won't connect, even though the third hit and so one do connect
@loganalleman
2 жыл бұрын
The Mythra lag thing is really interesting, because it implies that Mythra literally just uses the same animation files as Pyra, just sped up by around 60% by default. I guess it makes sense, since there's no reason to have two animation files if the only difference is a speed up. This also implies that Pyra is the dominant one, which checks out.
@the_r4ts
2 жыл бұрын
what r u talking abt pyra's the submissive one :3
@renmojito6796
2 жыл бұрын
The one problem I have when it came to the shulk fact is that most "inform" videos that feature shulks counter never input his "true vision" variant of his counter, when he holds torwards the direction of a player he knows he's going to counter. I wanted to know if the true variant input could be inputted while in the forzen state.
@foxythepir4te
2 жыл бұрын
Random Smash Fact: Sora will crush his balls when you use the first part of his Nair too close to the ground
@youseftheh4869
2 жыл бұрын
plot twist : examinee is just a PKBeats alt for him to be able to just post his own facts while making everyone think it's a follower's submission so they have a "chance" to show up
@poke4074
2 жыл бұрын
You can angle Vine whip! Ive been playing the game since the beginning and never knew that!
@cimtenyato
2 жыл бұрын
I think Mythra is simply built different and thus able to recover from the red trampoline faster
@treese_
2 жыл бұрын
As someone who plays Smash and has recently gotten into Street Fighter, it really is amazing seeing just how faithful the Guile assist trophy is. It's such a perfect caricature of low-level Guile players, spamming nothing but Booms and Flash Kicks (one for if the opponent is far away, the other if they try to jump in/get close), constantly holding down-back to charge both moves while also blocking low (the safest way to block in SF since its only vulnerable to air attacks and certain slow and unrewarding ground moves (in fact I think the assist trophy in Smash is only vulnerable to air attacks when crouching to reference this, not sure though)), and of course, misinputting Flash Kick and getting jump roundhouse. In fact I think the reason he never misinputs while you're on the ground and only does it when you're jumping around is because a charge move like Flash Kick can't be used quickly on reaction due to the charge time, so if someone jumps at you and you aren't ready for it, your anti-air Flash Kick won't get enough charge in time and will come out as jump roundhouse (charge moves are also tricky to learn at first and this kind of misinput is common with lower level players) Probably one of the most subtly detailed assist trophies in the game
@Liggliluff
2 жыл бұрын
(1:35) I think it has something to do with the game trying to make the feet stand on the ground when the character is standing. So it looks correct on slopes and such. Seems like it's still trying to do that during that attack.
@SashaSlunk
2 жыл бұрын
For the Fox rapid jab ender thing, my theory is that they forgot to turn off whatever code adjusts the feet angle, like for idle animations the legs will be different depending on the angle/elevation of the ground, I think they simply accidentally left that on during that animation and it's causing some wonkiness as a result.
@TaleOfTheToaster
2 жыл бұрын
Guile just shows how much Sakurai plays FGC games man
@Zoroark_Master
2 жыл бұрын
Sad I don’t have Twitter to give suggestions.
@sunnycideup4725
2 жыл бұрын
Ooooooh youre learning japanese?~ please do flex next time!
@themagician9573
2 жыл бұрын
when "shadowed" does soras counter still let projectiles pass through?
@ZacIRL
Жыл бұрын
Fox's Legs broken by something called IK. The Rig tries to place the foot on an appropriate angle to/on the stage, so animations on slopes look good and don't clip. Beyond the ledge, there is no geometry where the Rig could allign the foot by so it's rotated unnaturally.
@deadzone4033
2 жыл бұрын
"Misinput! It was a Misinput!! YOU CALM DOWN!!" - Guile to the person who summoned him (probably)
@TeenTitansGoOfficialYouTube
2 жыл бұрын
2:00 The home run bat still works at the freeze frame! I got a kill with it once and its still one of the highlights of my life
@nuave
2 жыл бұрын
My guess for the Fox weird animation is foot ik. Maybe the characters use ik to plant their foot against the ledge and since its over the ledge the ik is going off and its making the foot move towards the goal which would be the ledge. That's my only guess
@JIHLucky7
2 жыл бұрын
My guess is that Mythra has some kind of multiplier on the lag for certain things to make her actions faster than Pyra's, and that the developers didn't test the interaction between that multiplier and Pac-Mans trampoline.
@danplaysguitar6706
2 жыл бұрын
I didn't even know Guile could use a jump heavy kick in this game. Wonder what other street fighter inputs are attached to his character but never seen
@poke548
2 жыл бұрын
Fox's foot breaking looks like a classic IK problem. IK, or Inverse Kinematics, is the mathy stuff most games these days do to try and keep your character's feet planted on the ground in a natural looking way. This prevents (or at least mitigates) issues of steep slopes causing characters to have one foot "walking on air" and/or clipping into a slope. Another way to think of it like this: characters have a basic stand and walk cycle that doesn't account for slopes, and IK causes the character's foot and leg to sort of magnetize to the ground whenever they step/stand. Normally, IK systems are designed so that they shut off during certain circumstances, but you almost always end up with weird edge cases that cause them to freak out. In this case, it looks like Fox's attack animation has its IK system activated on the attacking foot for the last jab; doing this over ledge cause the game to attempt to find the floor below Fox's foot, and then offset the foot by what is defined in the animation. Normally, this is fine. However, when the floor below Fox's foot is a kill volume waaaaaaaaay below the foot, the IK freaks out and tries to "plant" Fox's foot on that terrain. tl;dr, Smash, like most modern games, uses some fancy maths to make walking and standing look good even on complex terrain, but it acts a little weirdly here and tries to orient Fox's foot in the wrong direction.
@thegreatautismo224
2 жыл бұрын
wtf is that soldier taunt at the very end
@ayo.2022
2 жыл бұрын
Dude at 4:35 makes a pretty good point y'know
@emerylafleur
2 жыл бұрын
"i'm not really a hardcore gamer" pulls off the hardest garden i've ever seen
@iTs_ROLL
2 жыл бұрын
Did anyone else notice that at 8:55 when PK was showing the damage for guile the first kick kinda looks like a forward air and the second one that does more damage looks like a back air? My guess is that it’s not a sweetspot like he said but that guile bair does more than his fair.
@masteroak7474
2 жыл бұрын
In street fighter, you can attack with three different strengths; light, medium and heavy. The kick that did more damage was simply his heavy kick, while the other one was a weaker variant.
@theosouris7063
2 жыл бұрын
@@masteroak7474 True. Adding on to that, in Street Fighter, you get different attacks during a neutral jump (straight up and down) than you do during a diagonal jump. That might also be a difference.
@masteroak7474
2 жыл бұрын
@@theosouris7063 Yeah I just assumed that the misinput version would be a neutral jump, since the input for flash kick is straight up.
@thenerdyanarchist3492
2 жыл бұрын
Oh my goodness. People don’t know why guile crouches?
@DarkWizardFoxo
2 жыл бұрын
woooooo smash!
@Erix963
2 жыл бұрын
Woohoo!
@MaxWelton
2 жыл бұрын
11:44 your “9 Judge Jump Cut” box should be checked off here
@reynXIII
Жыл бұрын
Random fact: the strong throw spirits increases the damage of zairs
@3am_humor
2 жыл бұрын
this is the best series
@bernyariasjr.8201
2 жыл бұрын
Here’s a weird thing I found about Isabelle. If you use fishing rod down throw in the air it will still have the slam sound.
@gamefreakDX
2 жыл бұрын
If you ever watched Maximillian's reaction to Guile's assist trophy, he says "look at him charge that bullshit!" because down-back allows Guile to charge both his Sonic Boom (Back > Foward+Punch) and Flash Kick (Down > Up+Kick). Since back is also block in Street Fighter, that's also why he guards attacks when you try to attack him.
@keeeot
2 жыл бұрын
Do you always use earthbound music? Keep it up
@knownas2017
2 жыл бұрын
That "Tears of the kingdom" bit. omg lol
@sachitechless
2 жыл бұрын
So my theory about why the Guile misinputs only when actually anti-airing and not when you're right in front of them. I'm sure the comments have said this to death, but the classic Guile Gameplan is essentially to get you to jump over a Sonic Boom and Flash Kick you in the air. When he's just Flash Kicking you on the ground, he's probably charging the whole time, but the Guile Ai might have a "opponent is close" trigger and "anti-air this mfer" trigger, so the Guile AI ends up not charging long enough, either cause it wasted the charge attempting to anti-air, or because it triggered too fast the Charge couldn't build completely.
@zrksyd
2 жыл бұрын
No Witch Time / Foresight test with Shadow's freezing?
@Schmack2
2 жыл бұрын
These videos are so calming and therapeutic. I love them
@nickolias7292
2 жыл бұрын
Maybe Mythra has a function that makes her frame data faster than Pyra. And since Pyra doesn't have any special fall moves, this was overlooked. Try comparing their grab-release endlag.
@Whispernyan
2 жыл бұрын
Technically the Up Specials where you ascend and than descend do still have Special Fall, most easily seen if for example you use Mario's fluud to push them off the stage while they're still in the endlag of the attack
@cyberslasho8
Жыл бұрын
Examinee623 really is carrying this series
@BenelopeAlmendra
Жыл бұрын
11:25 Mythra Supremacy 😎🤟
@Slimeade
2 жыл бұрын
Many people have pointed out that Guile's sitting down is a reference to how Guile mains in Street Fighter often hold down back in order to charge both Sonic Boom and Flash Kick, one which requires holding back for over a second, then forwards+punch, and one that requires holding down for over a second then up+kick. In fact, Guile as a whole is pretty much the most iconic 'Charge character'. This might be the reason for him being the assist trophy for Street Fighter, along with his playstyle being reliant on it, as opposed to someone like Chun Li, who's also a charge character, but tends to be a lot more aggressive
@RockyTheThird
Жыл бұрын
My best guess for Fox's foot causing that is that there's actually a thing added onto animations that's called like Slope Contour. Basically what it does is changes animations for characters feet/legs to match up with the shape of the ground, slope, platform etc. It can be removed in some cases but with the rapid jab being over the edge it's affecting that foot as it's trying to look flush/natural against the ground.
@shinyeeveelution789
2 жыл бұрын
I'm a comment
@SonicTheCutehog
2 жыл бұрын
The Guile Assist Trophy references a hated playstyle for him done by players where he crouches by the edge of the screen, throwing out Sonic Booms if the opponent is far away and using Flash Kick when they get close. Him misinputing Flash Kick references players often misinputing the move.
@marcosluismartinmorales5523
2 жыл бұрын
Wait, what if Guile uses that kick when he is in the air and has an enemy nearby? Maybe he can't use flash kick or sonic boom in the air so they gave him a move for when that happens, which is rare to see because of Guile's will to stay on the floor, crouched
@hyliandoctor
2 жыл бұрын
That's literally just how Street Fighter is. Your specials have to specify "Air OK" to do them mid-air, like Ryu and Ken's Tatsus or Akuma's air fireballs. Guile can hit a button and that's it. He's got two specials, and he has to stay grounded; aerial charge specials are part of why Vatista from Under Night is literally the best character in her game. With Guile, his air buttons are just to challenge other jumps, then do actual combos into Sonic Hurricane or Double Flash.
@jacksterj.9588
2 жыл бұрын
Maybe it's because nintendo made pyra first and then they reduce her frame data to make mythra
@ShieldRetro
2 жыл бұрын
THE ONE PIECE IS REAAAAAALLLLLL
@ConceptsYep
2 жыл бұрын
Here's an interesting fact : In the Alpharad video titled "SUPER SMASH BROS ULTIMATE (EVO 2018)" at 3:50, Alpha scrolls through the Ridley alts commenting on there not being a Mecha-Ridley one. And indeed, in this version, the 2 Ridley eventually ends up with are replaced with normal skins that have the same colors as the Mecha-Ridley ones. Making Ridley the only Smash Ultimate character with more than 8 known alts
@YounesLayachi
2 жыл бұрын
You meant more than 8 known alts ?
@ConceptsYep
2 жыл бұрын
@@YounesLayachi Oh right, I got mixed up, thanks
@raccoen
2 жыл бұрын
regarding the Fox fact at the beginning, i think it might be an issue with the Inverse Kinematics system smash uses to keep a character's feet on the ground even on slopes. with there being no ground beneath fox's foot, the system freaks out and, in the process, turns his foot in a weird way to try and compensate
@valorousAV
2 жыл бұрын
mythra is just privileged
@madzenith
2 жыл бұрын
i think the guile thing comes from a lapse in his 'decision making' in the sense that he decides which move to use based on the opponents position. so when the opponent is jumping around, he tries to attack him and then 'changes his mind' so to speak, resulting in neither move coming out properly. i hope that explanation made sense. also explains why he never misinputs when idle.
@Yipper64
2 жыл бұрын
11:47 well the other examples it looked like the landing lag was not finished with the animation and *snapped* to the idle. My immediate thought is that maybe mythra has the least landing lag in the entire game and so since her landing lag animation finishes before the pac man landing lag, she just goes into her idle. Unlike every other character who technically has their landing lag shortened.
@heterodoxagnostic8070
2 жыл бұрын
i'm glad you're happy for arlo
@KingBobbyG1223
2 жыл бұрын
The thing with mythra's landing lag is probably an oversite from the fact that most of her animations are just copied from pyra's and sped up
@Yipper64
2 жыл бұрын
1:22 oh im an idiot. I want this to be my job and I didnt realize that in a fighting game it does make more sense to make hitboxes children of *bones* not just of the object itself. I thought it was just animated separately to be at the correct position. It being parented to the bones makes sense.
@Hoovinoyse
2 жыл бұрын
Aight I wanna say, you did a fantastic job explaining charge inputs. The biggest thing (which I might’ve just misheard) but the way they work is that you hold the opposite direction from the attack (Back… Forward for Sonic Boom / Down… Up for Flash Kick). You can also do a quarter-directional of the charging direction, meaning you can do Down + Back… Forward OR Down + Back… Forward. It just so happens that Back is also how you Guard, and Down-Back is how you low guard, which looks like a regular crouch until he’s either hit, or does the charge move. Long story short, one of the safest way to do charge attacks, while also being unpredictable, is crouch-guarding.
@Pirlo926
2 жыл бұрын
Fox's leg issue is probably because they forgot to disable his leg snapping to the ground during the rapid jab, so it has no ground to snap to and does that.
@gabrielbob9074
2 жыл бұрын
If you play 5v5 squad Strike, Lingering Character items (snake c4, sephiroth side b, etc) will dissapear if you kill them, Even kirbys hat will dissapear and Villager/Isabelle pocket. The only ítem That doesnt dissapear is diddy Kongs banana Peel .
@juanrodriguez9971
2 жыл бұрын
I think the reason why Mythra takes less time than Pyra is because Pyra was created first and then adjusted her moves with multipliers to make Mythra's moveset, the only way for me to verify this is by comparing Mario and Dr Mario to see if Dr Mario takes longer considering his loves have multipliers, therefore why his moves instead of dealing, idk 12.02% could deal 14.0105% or something, meaning that if Mario has 30 frames then Dr Mario could have 32 frames. Only Dr Mario has 4 numbers after the dot since everyone else only has 2 numbers as expected, I think you said this in a video, if wasn't you then I took it from PJiggles.
@lordsceptile6181
2 жыл бұрын
Guile is what’s know as a Charge Character. They’re know for playing defensively and their signature “charge” input. Charge inputs are like you described, hold the stick in one direction, then flick the stick to the opposite direction and press the right button. Guile’s Sonic Boom has you hold back flick forward and press punch, Flash Kick has you hold down flick up and press kick. This is the reason Guile is always crouching. Holding diagonally down and back counts as both holding down and back readying both sonic boom and flash kick. It’s the strat used by every Guile player is the real game.
@GrouchyGander
2 жыл бұрын
"With summer coming to a close" It's been autumn for like, a whole month already!
@mariocraft3067
2 жыл бұрын
Yes, roundhouse and heavy kick are interchangeable. However, people only use the term "roundhouse" when talking about street figthter, since that was what "heavy kick" was called back in street fighter 2 before the name was standardized.
@gabby5399
6 ай бұрын
Funniest shit is you can pick up any street fighter game with guile and copy his strats from smash and do fairly well at lower ranks. Carried myself to gold rank by just camping with fireballs and flashkicks.
@theedwardian
2 жыл бұрын
Most guile player hold downback to keep flashkick and sonic boom ready. Exceptional Guile players hide their charge inputs with his knee bazooka, rolling sobat, and other moves. A top level Guile can basically rush you down while charging.
@Calyde
2 жыл бұрын
I would assume Fox’s leg break is due to how his ledge balance animation is programmed. For whatever reason, approaching the ledge with that move puts his foot in the rigged position for when he’s balancing on the ledge. Also, someone else said this, but Mythra’s landing lag is likely just calculated from speeding up Pyra’s landing lag, by a certain amount. It’d be interesting to see if other lag she experiences works the same way.
@readyplayerthree3
2 жыл бұрын
I'm not a traditional fighting game player (the only charge character I've played is Hodan in Rivals of Aether) but the Guile fact is heckin amazing. I misinput my charges quite often XD
@andrewwalden2005
2 жыл бұрын
Okay so when they were making guile to be a possible character (as most assist trophies started their lives) The roundhouse kick he does is most likely actually a misinputted fair (not up air) It happens because guile gets confused between completing his sonic boom input (which is completed by forward + attack) and the flash kick. So the forward of the sonic book comes out while he is in the air thus leading to him doing a forward air because you can’t do sonic booms on the air. The discrepancy between the damage on its hits isn’t because of sweet/sour spot, it is due to the short hop attack modifier that ultimate has. Cheers
@TheUnknownsShow
2 жыл бұрын
You should have checked if two Pac-Men using up special switch trampolines after they turn red, do they each experience 29 or 30 frames of landing lag? I believe the difference is not tied to ownership but rather to the state of the Pac-Man who lands on it.
@lazypaladin
2 жыл бұрын
Welcome to Random Sma- ... _Today we shall go on a in-depth journey. To understand just why and how. _*_Fox broke his friggin' foot!_*
@sanzerboy4267
2 жыл бұрын
Hey. Does DK up special ignore wind? I tried testing it. And he goes throught the wind like it's nothing. And does the same work with Lucarios up special too? I'm pretty sure teleport recoverys ignore the wind. Please try this cuz i forgot to get footage of me trying it
@FATE522
2 жыл бұрын
I wish we could get more a look at why people aren't actually grabbed physically in the game or hit
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