Fun fact the ability mana is pronounced munna I'm Maori just found civ and am so happy we have a leader
@joshrayborn1418
4 жыл бұрын
You guys deff deserve the leader man New Zealand is fucking awsome dude the warrior culture is fucking bomb man
@cyberzangoose16
4 жыл бұрын
Reading this made me smile.
@maxslender4668
3 жыл бұрын
As an Australian I am jealous of the maori
@xarmanhskafragos2516
3 жыл бұрын
@@maxslender4668 you you are kidding right. Australia so much fun
@xarmanhskafragos2516
3 жыл бұрын
@@maxslender4668 you you are kidding right. Australia so much fun
@Giltr0y
5 жыл бұрын
Basically Marae is a repeatable wonder for a price of a building.
@atocanboi409
4 жыл бұрын
that other players can't build
@kirkschlichting3974
5 жыл бұрын
The Toa can also use their build charge to rebuild pillaged improvements.
@bryanwright7706
5 жыл бұрын
Another thing I would add to Kupe's strengths is you usually get a lot of first meets for city states.
@IWubYooz
5 жыл бұрын
Few points I'd like to add: The ability to scout so much early on is sooo nice. You can meet every civ by just having the ability to send one warrior to go scout over deep water tiles for you. The other nice thing about the Toa is that you don't need iron for them. Perhaps it's because I play marathon speed, huge map games so it costs 60 iron to upgrade a warrior, but the ability to not have to think about getting iron for him is so good, or if you do have iron it's just free trade goods to the AIs. Also, what makes Kupe S-tier in culture in my opinion has been that all that faith I was never using from my Maraes building up over the eras, I was able to abuse the hell out of Rock bands later on which are a ridiculous unit in general. But with resources in general the way they are now, I find that if I'm being mostly peaceful, it's so much easier to just avoid units that require strategic resources. I played a completely co2-free Kupe game and aside from a few warriors which stopped forever at Musketmen, just used spear and archer upgrade trees as all my military strength to ward off the occasional invader. Granted, I was on King difficulty so for all this your mileage may vary.
@benpheloung5388
5 жыл бұрын
The Toa can repair some improvements that have been looted without burning their build charge. So you can loot aggressively when besieging a city, and use the units to quickly rebuild.
@joeedwards830
5 жыл бұрын
I live in nz and can safely say that the great writer thing is accurate the maori culture before colonialism as they had no written language until the English came but nonetheless doesn't seem to affect how good maori are in civ 6. Also your videos are great. You do a great job of explaining how everything works and your general style is different but very enjoyable
@hazeroth
5 жыл бұрын
The game soundtrack for the Maori is excellent too, especially the haka!
@UriahD85
4 жыл бұрын
Damn son as soon I installed the game and that played i got super goosebumps
@UriahD85
4 жыл бұрын
You know you're from NZ when you know the words to the background music of the Maori civ
@hazeroth
3 жыл бұрын
And, once in a while, someone who has a strong appreciation for Maori culture.
@wombat4191
5 жыл бұрын
Kupe is so amazing, I'm definitely on that hype train. Best thing is that his playstyle is the most different and defining feature. You want to settle coastal. You don't need or even want to chop woods or improve them (much less need for using production on early builders is maybe the most relaxing thing), but actually plant them instead. And AI Kupe is maybe the most entertaining thing, especially if he hates you :D One tip: Reyna is insanely good, it's like her Foreign exhange was changed to Forestry management just for Kupe. You get extra gold and insane national parks in one city if you just plant woods everywhere you can. It sucks for cultural game that curator was removed but Kupe would have less use for that than other cultural civs anyways.
@alexsamurai1230
5 жыл бұрын
It's worth saying that since he gets so much culture, he can quickly get a government and plug in the great prophet points card, which somewhat ameliorates the delay on a holy site
@adamdejager
5 жыл бұрын
Another thing about Kupe's early game that you should mention (as if he really needs any more bonuses than you already described lol) is that you can/should send your warrior and free builder cruising around coastlines meeting CS. It's actually pretty common to first-meet 3+, which of course is great for snowballing the early game.
@wombat4191
4 жыл бұрын
I think he should be A in religion, even when he had more yields from the Marae. The inconsistent start means its harder to get a religion. But when he does, it will be a strong one.
@floor_tank_shanks4194
3 жыл бұрын
So basically for some insight, Kupès legend tells of how he was chasing a giant octopus down to the coasts of New Zealand. Had I known this before siding with The Voidsingers... Makes for some pretty cool customized lore in my game. I like to think we channeled the mighty power of The Old Gods after his game of tag, to a Diplomatic Victory, and ruled the world through the mighty religion of Cthulhuism XD.
@Raqdolll
5 жыл бұрын
Just a small addition: I would give B to diplomatic instead of C just because you can scout the early game so well. When you meet most of the city states, you can work on so many more city state quests early game to get some diplomatic favors.
@Jamessy65
5 жыл бұрын
The thing I don't get is why is Auckland still a city state. Whanganui-a-Tara is Wellington. They have Opango. A hill INSIDE the Auckland region of New Zealand.... Meanwhile.... they replace Stockholm and Amsterdam
@NoSafeHavens
5 жыл бұрын
Jamessy65 They also made Tenochititlan and Mexico City exist at the same time.
@shadedepeche2556
4 жыл бұрын
That’s like saying Mexico City shouldn’t be a city state when Tenochitlan is in the Mexico City area.
@itsyaboitavino3273
4 жыл бұрын
Yeah but consider: Auckland is a god-tier city state
@brianhum8765
5 жыл бұрын
Love the vids Saxy! Could you do update videos for leaders that have drastically changed post GS like Teddy?
@jedim793
5 жыл бұрын
I think he deserves a B for diplomatic because if you can get to the end of the civic tree quickly you can get sooooooo many extra diplomatic points
@bouncingdonut9969
4 жыл бұрын
if you are beating people to the end of the tree that fast you already have the culture victory
@ravennevermore8173
3 жыл бұрын
Kupe is now even better because you can get crazy tiles with Preserve distrixt and you can remove resource that prevents district or wonder placement with that hero which can "consume" resource for culture and science boost.
@skinnypete456
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for making these! Super helpful for both noobs and experts
@tomfran100
4 жыл бұрын
Bruh, Kupe is really good for science if you can secure the first two golden ages and select the harbor and commercial hub adjacency bonus. Then plug in the harbor adjacency bonus card. Then you get mega science early on, usually 5 or 6 times as much as everyone else has. Then you start placing shipyards everywhere by the time the second golden age is going. Then start placing industrial zones. You can get Venetian Arsenal and go for a naval domination game from there, or you can just go science because of how tall your cities are. Kupe needs at least an A- in science. I’ve beat Germany, Rome and Korea almost any time I play them with Kupe in science.
@hychaelzaidi6328
4 жыл бұрын
Finally someone who recognize Kupe's Science potential! I am currently trying to do a science victory as them and so far I am doing very well.But I just settled my continent as no one is there because I am currently playing on terra map and I just built campuses in every city Update on the game: I won the science victory so that proves everything
@rayizard5687
3 жыл бұрын
Played Kupe right after I watched this, starting settler spawned right next to the Galapagos Islands so I grabbed the nearest land and was like "so much for this being a weak science civ"
@ravinshu4145
5 жыл бұрын
I believe the toa can also repair tiles. Not sure if it's a bug, but it means that you can pillage your opponet's tiles while conquering them without worrying too much about repairing.
@Madmuli
5 жыл бұрын
Nope, not a bug. The roman legion has the same ability, until he uses his builder charge
@kevg1617
4 жыл бұрын
One thing to take into consideration, any military units with build capability can repair pillaged tiles (other than pillaged roads), a great advantage to civs with build charge military units since you won't need builders on hand to repair after a pillage intensive intensive invasion (defense of attack) or a natural disaster...
@vicratlhead2228
5 жыл бұрын
Kupe is neck and neck with Matthias for most powerful GS civ. I'd give the edge to Kupe since his early game is stronger. I played an archipelago game with Kupe to take advantage of his embarking bonuses but I'd really like to do continents next and go dom with the toas. Since you fly through the civics with him it's easy to get corps and maybe even armies of toas which can go toe to toe with renaissance units. That could be fun.
@peteszewczyk7652
5 жыл бұрын
It's amazing how well the two civs balance out with such awesome and extremely different abilities. Matthias's ability to grab a ton of free, upgraded, quick moving units gives him the potential to wipe Kupe off the map (or anyone else for that matter) if they ever meet. The Ottomans can counter anything pretty well too. I love how those three civs are so powerful but in a way are balanced.
@vicratlhead2228
5 жыл бұрын
@@peteszewczyk7652 haven't gotten to the Ottomans yet, they might be next. Might be neat to play a civ that encourages you to spam bombards.
@peteszewczyk7652
5 жыл бұрын
@@vicratlhead2228 The Ottomans unique governor is broken for domination. It makes them pretty predictable, but still pretty difficult to stop. Saxy Gamer did a good play through of them a month ago or so
@vicratlhead2228
5 жыл бұрын
@@peteszewczyk7652 haven't played them but I did meet them in a game once. He eliminated Harald and gobbled up most of Englanor's cities. If the AI can use them that well I imagine a player could lol.
@peteszewczyk7652
5 жыл бұрын
@@vicratlhead2228 Who doesn't eliminate Harald though?
@adrianok4266
5 жыл бұрын
Haven't tried them yet but will do after my Inca game is finished :D Kupe deserves bonus "personality points" for his animations he has pipped Vicky in that department X'D
@FlamesGay
4 жыл бұрын
Wheres my Maori’s at?
@vivipadman
4 жыл бұрын
@Gaymar Gaylord Gay Epic gamer response
@DanielGaming111
4 жыл бұрын
@Gaymar Gaylord Gay not cool mate
@a.l.zacharia2834
4 жыл бұрын
chur bolt
@thediversifier1739
5 жыл бұрын
Lol in multilplayer I was beating jannisaries with toas.
@drivingrevilo
5 жыл бұрын
FYI Saxy - the Devs have just released a massive update, with some really big changes (Map Editor!): one of them is nerfing Kupe’s bonus yields from +2 Culture and Faith down to only +1
@drivingrevilo
5 жыл бұрын
Also, Toa has been nerfed down to 36 strength, and their Haka dance ability no longer stacks
@itsyaboitavino3273
4 жыл бұрын
If you play on Terra, Kupe is great because you can get to the uninhabited continent first and have a private continent for the first half of the game
@LoserZalbo
5 жыл бұрын
He also completely breaks Terra style maps if you use those
@dermilchmann25
4 жыл бұрын
archipelago kupe is just op
@Giltr0y
5 жыл бұрын
-10 combat strength is STACKABLE!?!??! I thought they fixed it in Rise and Fall?
@Emmblix
3 жыл бұрын
1 year later, they introduced the preserve and Kupe is finally completely broken. Just came from a deity game and had a 30+ national park (without eiffel tower) which also grants around 30 production, 10 food, culture, faith... Absolut easy-mode... 😂
@246Rennie
5 жыл бұрын
One of the best thing about the Toa is that they have no gold upkeep cost, you can crap out 20 of them them and it costs 0 gold to keep them around.
@jamesallen6767
5 жыл бұрын
I have been playing as Dido, He's been in some games. Never been impressed as him in the game but now will try him ... hang loose bro"... hehe!
@132Beats
5 жыл бұрын
I would rate him an A in Domination and in Religion.
@sigithesauropod3340
5 жыл бұрын
I like to use put down Pahs on the coast if I haven't used it before. This allowes me to put a raged unit there that can attack the invading ships every turn and not die.
@DanielGaming111
4 жыл бұрын
mate its Pa
@ShepardVI
5 жыл бұрын
I’ll be interested to see what you think of Mansa Musa. Interesting civ to play
@ironmikebugner
5 жыл бұрын
I must be doing something wrong with Kupe. I'm playing with him on archipelago and got 5 cities worth of territory. I've tried my best to keep as many forests and jungles, of which I have many. So I'm getting the tourism from all of them, after researching flight of course. I've built Broadway, Bolshoi ballet, Hermitage, and the Sydney Opera company, broadcast towers, art museums, and have filled all of them. I've built seaside resorts where I can, built two national parks, and I'm currently working on ski resorts. But I'm not getting as much tourism as I normally get when playing other civs. I usually win before I get to cold war, so I'm using rock bands for the first time, but I still haven't become culturally dominate over any civ. I went into the victory screen to see where I was at and noticed that most of my tiles don't have any visiting tourists. How do I fix this?
@peteszewczyk7652
5 жыл бұрын
Kupe is ridiculous. I totally understand why you would grade him a C in science, but I would consider giving him a B too. Reason being, not only the two free techs and not being hurt by not having a city immediately, you can also (sometimes) plant your city by a natural wonder that gives science. It's obviously not consistent, but he is also the only civ that can go find such a bonus with no real consequences. Having that bonus science early on makes it very easy to jump ahead.
@hychaelzaidi6328
4 жыл бұрын
That is what happend to me
@tompeled6193
5 жыл бұрын
The Maori and Hungary have been nerfed Canada, Gandhi, Norway, and the Netherlands have been buffed.
@spookaj6261
4 жыл бұрын
Amourshipper I see. Our kin shall unite!
@drfredostein4410
4 жыл бұрын
Tom Peled Hungary is still amazing, I just won a domination game on a small map before the Renaissance Era😂
@editsonimovie8681
5 жыл бұрын
1:21 my dad heard that and thought you said fuck, and I showed him you messed up and he thought you made builders by fucking after that,
@Genesis_Lightbringer
5 жыл бұрын
Please play Kupe in the next series. Either cultural or religious victory. Many thanks
@MrCyberGal
5 жыл бұрын
LMAO, Broyar didn't even put Kupe in his Top 10 Culture civs video.
@drivingrevilo
5 жыл бұрын
Yeah Broyar got lots of justifiable stick for those vids, his picks are completely off - not having obvious Civs like Persia in the Domination Top 10, for example
@dirt007
4 жыл бұрын
You should do some amendments videos on things to watch out from the ai for each leader. Like we all know not to let John curtain get too far ahead in science or culture but why do I have so much issue out if the Kongo. I often find him in the mid game and he has like 20 cities and is just steam rolling the other civs.
@hunterblack1542
4 жыл бұрын
Would not give him S for religion. Definitely a challenge to get the GP and really puts you behind from what you want to do as Kupe, which is get settlers out and as many passable tiles as possible
@pdraggy
5 жыл бұрын
I'd put diplomatic a slight plus, you at least get to meet all (or most) of the civs early which could lead to early world Congress and more trading opportunities. At the very least if you're very good at diplomacy this civ would fit spectacularly
@LUFFY-vd2ub
4 жыл бұрын
So maori start in the renessanss era
@89to11productions
5 жыл бұрын
With the new updates coming out and also the old civs getting some buffs, would you consider going back and doing a leader spotlight redux? Doesn't need to be an individual video for each civ again, but perhaps a big video where you give updates to all the civs rankings based on changes, also ranking the prior civs to their diplomatic game. Maybe after the April update? I'd be really interested to see what you think after all the updates, especially since Kupe is getting a nerf :P
@TheSaxyGamer
5 жыл бұрын
That is my plan exactly actually XD. I'm going to do a video that covers any updates, corrections, or changed feelings. It'll probably be a long one but it'll cover all those things.
@89to11productions
5 жыл бұрын
@@TheSaxyGamer Awesome! Can't wait. Really interested to see if Canada +1 production on tundra and snow will be enough of a benefit
@uzernamefail
5 жыл бұрын
Ironically you gave Kupe an S ranking and STILL didn't bring up all the things that make him great: - Remember that woods give +1 production, same as an ancient era mine. Kupe gets an additional +1 as a civ ability (putting them on par with Apprenticeship mines), and with conservation the total bonus from having a woods tile becomes +3, which is where a mine maxes out. Unlike mines, you gain appeal from woods, which makes flooding your territory with seaside resorts and national parks even easier. AND you don't have to spend builder charges on chopping woods and placing mines, and you will never need to build a lumber mill since the production boost invalidates them. - Toa is better than a Varu because you can upgrade warriors into them, benefit from Oligarchy, and upgrade them into musketmen - Possibly the most broken thing about the Marae is that it stacks with National Parks. So you not only get all the benefits of a National Park (which coincidentally is best with woods and natural wonders) but you get additional tourism on top of that. And the bonus applies to woods you plant as well, so you can just fill all your empty tiles with more woods to reap the bonus production, culture, and faith. - Kupe's culture generation basically buffs all the other victory types by a whole tier. You will get corps/armies and policy cards faster than the AI, you will get a lot of policies and wonders to boost scientific victory well before the AI, and you will be generating envoys faster than any civ that doesn't get a direct bonus to envoys because they're tied to civics and governments. Kupe isn't just S, he's S+. Even Peter, who is also S, can't really keep up with Kupe in anything but religion and maybe science if Russia gets a good start, and even then I'll take the bonus production, faith, and culture to woods over Russia's ability any day.
@davidfromwiller3702
5 жыл бұрын
Hey man great job with your videos, I really enjoy them. Do you know if they will add dlc to the switch version? They added a few things, but not as many leaders in switch version.
@newsoulsam3889
4 жыл бұрын
Playing Kupe on my Switch right now!
@rawcuthy
5 жыл бұрын
yay about time woot
@derekbell3716
2 жыл бұрын
Go for a religious pantheon and get God of the sea, +1 production from sea resources
@Hascuce
5 жыл бұрын
one think that is weird, you kinda think you gonna settle aroudn coast mostly, but thats coutner productive, most of the time yields from forests and simply having more land is better usually better than settleing on coast
@val4552
5 жыл бұрын
reef tiles count as passable tiles as well as culture bombs for fishing boats make him pretty good as a coastal civ
@harjutapa
3 жыл бұрын
Maori got so much better when Preserves came out.
@fredblues7175
5 жыл бұрын
Sometimes 50 restarts is 49 starts by tundra
@clepsinator123
4 жыл бұрын
Great overall review 👍🏽
@TheProfProfessor
5 жыл бұрын
Does the Marae affect new growth woods you get at Conservation?
@Madmuli
5 жыл бұрын
Yes
@TaylorEddy61
5 жыл бұрын
I repaired tiles with the toa without burning a build charge.
@Abraxis86
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Saxy
@val4552
5 жыл бұрын
I find getting a great phophet is quite hard unless you rush for one. You lose a lot of potential great phophet points while on your voyage. That said once he has a religion he's great
@OneAndOnlyStormy
5 жыл бұрын
I had the most fun playing kupe was ahead of everyone and had everything completed before 1800
@xianyueai9381
3 жыл бұрын
I disagree with the diplomatic score. Even disregarding the kupe no city challenge. The fact you can explore more of the map early means most of the time, you can have more first meeting of city states which does help tremendously with diplomatic game
@gerardmonsen1267
4 жыл бұрын
Hi, Saxy! Quick question: If you’re going for a culture victory, does it pay to still get a religion? I can see some possible benefits with buildings to house religious paintings and relics as well as +2 culture from converted cities in other civilizations. However, that does mean building all of those holy sites and additional wonders to make the religious culture useful. So, is it worth it or should you just ignore religion entirely and focus on everything else - maybe even get some industrial or science zones or spread out and get more cities?
@1Animeculture
3 жыл бұрын
I am soo fustraited with his ability to not harvest, it have hindered alot of perfect district plots unusable for me.. nothing feels worse than an isolated patch of wheat next to 5 mountains..sadge
@razzadhossainrahan7460
5 жыл бұрын
Makes a leader spotlight Leader get nerfed
@humansRpepul2
5 жыл бұрын
Is the Marae affected by buildings that "have a great works slot" like the ampitheatre would? Or is "Pen, whatever, Voice" just useless early on.
@MouseDestruction
5 жыл бұрын
I see you can still build swordsman before you unlock toa, is it very cheap to upgrade them? 130g for warrior to toa, could upgrade to swordsman then toa maybe?
@potosflavus2351
4 жыл бұрын
Gets S tier in two categories for his building alone? Sounds to me like the Marae needs a nerf.
@kiryuchan137
4 жыл бұрын
Practically the most over-powered civ ever
@tobak952
4 жыл бұрын
also if you miss your prophet you can use all your faith for great people :D
@ironmikebugner
5 жыл бұрын
What types of maps do you like to play on with kupe? Archipelago and tiny islands seems like what you want to do with them, but when I do that I have trouble finding places to settle cities that have a decent amount of land.
@JjeagerR533
5 жыл бұрын
I tried kupe with the archipelego map with the low sealevel setting which means the land is a bit wider , but still have plenty of ocean to discover
@remzisibra6947
4 жыл бұрын
So settling on a luxury resource as Kupe is not gonna get you a benefit of free luxury?
@amelliamendel2227
4 жыл бұрын
I win with Kristina is possible, just build so the wonders that give you policy slots by the end of the game you have so many you have to scroll to see them all 😂
@williamhunt134
4 жыл бұрын
Where can I get this game on?
@Yog---Sothoth
5 жыл бұрын
A little nerf will come for the Marae with the next patch, I guess he'll remain good for culture victory.
@ryantong2404
5 жыл бұрын
Please add little graphics with the leader abilities, it’s impossible to read on mobile
@jasonsacchi
5 жыл бұрын
When I play Kupe, I started the game in the island plates map to avoid natural disasters and found any locations of National Parks. What about you?
@user-ek2su5zo5q
5 жыл бұрын
Look at this duuuuuuude
@Jackb290
5 жыл бұрын
Is it possible to buy great works of writing off other Civs as Kupe?
@RobskiBobskiPower
5 жыл бұрын
Yes, but you have to put it in your palace or some other free space
@xaphor
5 жыл бұрын
Yes
@Madmuli
5 жыл бұрын
Or steal ;)
@USA_djhiggi77
4 жыл бұрын
So if you cant get great writers and you have no slots for great writings, can you not buy them from the AI then? Just wondering.
@metroidnerd9001
4 жыл бұрын
The game says "Cannot Recruit" under great writers for the whole game if you are playing as the Maori, the same as if you've already recruited a great prophet, or passed up a particular great person.
@benwillems8584
5 жыл бұрын
I just save scum for Kupe's start location
@jonnylaser85
4 жыл бұрын
Weird. I swear I remember chopping forest with my toa. Maybe a new uodate
@bootyourface
5 жыл бұрын
YA KNOW
@MrVausta
5 жыл бұрын
Not good on a small island map
@bauerpaul8967
4 жыл бұрын
did he get nerfed ?
@USA_djhiggi77
4 жыл бұрын
They nerfed this guy pretty hard ey? Well, by at least half because you only recive +1 faith and Culture per passibale tile now, not 2.
@V_Deity
4 жыл бұрын
That's fair. Low skill civs should not be top tier
@matthewstephens6502
4 жыл бұрын
18:22 pretty sure thats not how averages work lmfao
@cjayhay
4 жыл бұрын
It's pronounced mar-EYE. Sorry for being "that guy" but it just physically hurts me every time you say it.
@hirundine44
5 жыл бұрын
Not only that, those 2 tech's are so annoying... hehe
@Basketball_is_Life66
3 жыл бұрын
Paw 😅
@szucsmarkus3248
4 жыл бұрын
>"it's bad, but it's not that bad" >it's something, umm, to keep in mind >"I totally understand why you can't recruit great writers, because if you could, Kupe would easily be the most broken civ in the game" >it's something to, umm, keep in mind >"it doesn't really affect very much of his play style at all" >umm, it's something to keep in mind Why would he be broken if it wouldn't effect his play style at all? You are basically just throwing -shit- words at the wall at this point
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