You forgot the most important thing about the Madrasa.. it unlocks wirh THEOLOGY, not education.. so you can get it sooner then anyone else... that's what makes it reaaaally good
@thedarkmaster13
5 жыл бұрын
Taking into account how you generally start a game, the biggest advantage I can see with Saladin is that your first district is always going to be a campus. Unlike other civs that need to go with a holy site first to get their religion at all, Arabia can always start with the campus and all their bonuses are aimed at eliminating the downsides for that. The university replacement means that you're going to want to put the campus on what is probably the best holy site location anyway. You get the faith you would have gotten with an early holy site when buying the worship building. And you never have to worry about great prophet points since you're guaranteed to get the last one anyway. You end up getting the benefits of both an initial campus and an initial holy site. What you probably want to do most of the time is build the holy site right around when you're going to research theology in order to spend your free prophet for your religion, assuming you don't need to found a pantheon first. If you do, plop it down a little earlier or rush universities to get the faith needed to found your pantheon. A very early religion just doesn't do that much, so there is little loss from delaying it until you need to boost theology. Really the only downsides are that you'll be doing some bottom of the barrel scraping for beliefs since most of the best ones will already be chosen on larger maps. While on smaller ones it's not an insignificant chance that your rivals will simply not claim the earlier prophets and you never get the last free one, forcing you to wait for the great person points to accumulate. However, the main important thing is you never have to fight for that prophet which lets you go after the more valuable early science instead.
@jahoyhoy55555
2 жыл бұрын
Saladin is one of my favorite leaders, he combines two of my favorite victory types, religion and science. It's really unique, I can't think of another leader that does that.
@FixerFour
6 жыл бұрын
Hey saxy one thing i don't think i heard you mention about their unique building that replaces the university, it doesn't require you to research education first. You can build it immediately after completing the library. It lets you get massive science way before you're supposed to. Edit: sorry, played him again last night. It unlocks with the civic that unlocks temples. Still, comes out MUCH earlier than the normal University
@tseikk159
6 жыл бұрын
yes, this is actually huge. All in all i think saxy rated saladin lower than he should be. He's definitely one of the strongest civs in the game and easily deserves the S ranking in domination too, and S overall, because he can use faith to purchase units + earlier access to university makes it so he can have stronger units earlier than other civs. He should also get atleast a B, if not an A in culture, due to having both more science and more culture than your average civ letting him get cultural wonders earlier than others. The fact that he can use religion as another tourism modifier needs to be taken into account too.
@dyer4677
6 жыл бұрын
The Madrasa's bonus faith can actually be much higher if you invest a lot in science city states, were it will provide extra faith equal to the extra science given to you by the various city states.
@TheSaxyGamer
6 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately, that doesn't work if you have Rise and Fall, as the +2's for 3 and 6 envoys now give the bonus to libraries and Universities instead of the campus. If you're on vanilla though, it is quite amazing how much additional faith that can give you.
@jisookim6904
6 жыл бұрын
@@TheSaxyGamer what does work is the +100% adjacency card for campuses though. As Saladin you basically always want that card slotted in as well as the adjacency to Holy Sites and then go for a faith economy with Reformed Church and kill a few neighbours. I find it isreally strong because nearly no other civilization can match the raw combat power of an army of Mamluks. Only thing is that Russia is still better at this with their Cossacks and faith boost.
@Abraxis86
5 жыл бұрын
it's weird to me you would say that only being able to do the science faith thing is a weakness. You never say anyone specializing in warmongering is weak because they can't rush tall cities like cleo can or something.
@alexanderdelorme9327
6 жыл бұрын
Spot on analysis. I totally agree. I may have given them a higher domination grade considering the strength of faith purchasing, but a B is fair. One aspect of Arabia that I always feel should be better than it is in practice is their worship building buffs. The fact that other civs can buy your worship building for so cheap is, in theory, amazing, because you can then conquer those cities and not get stuck with a different worship building that will never add the +10% buffs to the city. However, I find that the AI never purchases your building. So I find that, while my first 4-6 cities are always pumping out science, faith, and culture, my next 4-6 by conquest already have (usually crummy) worship buildings.
@TheSaxyGamer
6 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I totally forgot about the additional ability to purchase units with the faith you'll have, that can certainly help them out a bit!
@jnovoa1
5 жыл бұрын
My favorite base game civ.
@xarmanhskafragos2516
3 жыл бұрын
What about greece?
@supamekvip4198
3 жыл бұрын
*MONTEZUMA HAS CAPTURED THE CHAT*
@Benja-qx5ko
6 жыл бұрын
Horsemen promote to Cavalry not Knights.
@TheSaxyGamer
6 жыл бұрын
That they do, oops. I always always always get that messed up. You should pre-build heavy chariots, not horsemen. Thanks!
@gernbuster08
6 жыл бұрын
This is definitly a high strategy civ. In my oppinion, one valid way to rule is early campus and second faith district. the science leads you to a good medival age, build the religion militaristic and rish marmeluks. great healer and religios spread by force can be unstopable. Its especially great if you play pvp, where neighbours might convert themselfs instead of fighting you. It is great pvp civ. high developed cities early with high tech and a strong medival are usually very difficult to archive going for faith.
@tylernorman7896
3 жыл бұрын
Nice thing about the Mamluks, when paired with an apostle with the Chaplain promotion, you get 20 additional health each turn for ALL adjacent Mamluks. At the very least, a group of Mamulks heal for 25 while you're attacking in hostile territory. If you went overboard with it, (God of healing pantheon, next to your city, with the Chaplain) heal for 70 in a turn. It pairs well keeping the two units together, since they both move for 4.
@abelcheng2073
3 жыл бұрын
Just finished a game as Saladin. I got a cultural victory...
@kipblass2131
6 жыл бұрын
I'm not a fan of Arabia. Might just be my playstyle, but his biggest weakness from my PoV is that in order to get full utility out of his bonuses, you'd optimally have both a campus and a holy site in every city. Neither of these districts are the ones that give bonus production to trade routes (encampment, commercial hub, industrial zone, harbor) and neither produce yields that allow you to make stuff (hammers or gold.) Each of the four districts that give hammer bonuses to trade routes also give you direct district yields that make stuff (hammers or gold, although encampments are much weaker there) and great people that make hammers or gold (again, encampments much less so.) As such, usually when I'm going for space victory, I'll have a campus in most or all cities and few holy sites (often none.) When I'm going for a religious victory, I'll have a holy site in most or all cities and a campus in less than 1/4 of my cities. As Saladin, there's no way I'm not taking advantage of the 10% bonus to three yields, so every city will have a holy site, and I'd want a campus in most or all of them because the madrassa is pretty good. Consequently, my empire has fewer of the "hammer districts" which means the empire makes less gold/hammers, meaning the empire makes fewer units, districts, buildings, and wonders.
@kai9720
6 жыл бұрын
That’s very true. On easier difficulties and for less experienced players Arabia might be a very nice Civ. However for advanced players especially on higher difficulties arabia kind of lags the ability to create a strong backbone (hammers&gold)
@jisookim6904
6 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't underestimate building Holy Sites as Saladin as they are my way around Theatre Squares. Early theatre Squares are one of the most vital districts for science victories but I personally dislike building them. I really like taking the belief that gives Holy Site buildings culture and then just leave out the theatre squares and only build one or two and faith purchase some great writers to get themed amphitheatres.
@jl-fz3um
4 жыл бұрын
This civ deserves an A in domination. With a focus on religion, you can accumulate a lot of faith points by the time you get your mamluks, and you can basically purchase units with faith points by then. You just need Theocracy for purchasing units with faith points. I once purchased four mamluks just from faith points in one turn.
@atocanboi409
4 жыл бұрын
plus a big science lead can usually carry you to a domination game ezpz. but their lack of Production bonuses makes it a little hard to get a real army up and running.
@danielbakergill
4 жыл бұрын
The comment section makes this guy seem cooler than you did. Lol I think the Science GP you want is Hildegard of Bingen. Cool lady, too. Stuff You Missed In History Class did a great podcast on her.
@rodh1404
3 жыл бұрын
I think this leader needs to be re-evaluated now that it's possible to build both land units and districts with Faith.
@Ansprechen_und_Aufklären_1
6 жыл бұрын
You forgot that arabia can buy their religious building for only 10% of the cost. if You have theocraty its completely for free. so thats insane for a religious victory.
@TheFinnmacool
4 жыл бұрын
I tried to win science with S but instead eked out a culture victory and wasn't sure how......
@johnshogskins4443
6 жыл бұрын
Sala-AH-dEEn
@azazelreeds
5 жыл бұрын
Salah ad-Din
@caniblmolstr4503
3 жыл бұрын
It's Salahuddin ibn Ayyub
@donknoman1849
4 жыл бұрын
The music that plays at the back is an turkish music called "uskudar'a gideriken"
@atocanboi409
4 жыл бұрын
aka ra-ra-rasputin
@hunterblack1542
3 жыл бұрын
The C in culture is way too low. Faith generation is huge for national parks and rock bands. And science helps you secure Eiffel Tower. Easily A tier culture civ
@MarkWarner999
6 жыл бұрын
What is your ranking system??
@TheSaxyGamer
6 жыл бұрын
For the victory rankings, I give the rankings based on their ability to attempt a certain victory type. If a civ has no bonuses and no encouragement/discouragement to go for a certain victory type, they at at the C ranking. If they have penalties that harm their ability to go for a victory or are discouraged from pursuing it, they will receive a D or F depending on what the circumstances are. If they have bonuses/are encouraged to go for a victory, they will receive a B or higher, once again depending on the circumstance. The overall rank puts them in a general tier against all of the other civs in the game and judges all of their attributes.
@MarkWarner999
6 жыл бұрын
What is an "S"? I admit that once I see 'A' and 'B' that I expect the simple A,B,C,D,F system from schools. The 'S' is unknown and confusing. Additionally, I would have included the rating system in the video information for all of these....you never know where somebody is going to get started on your series. Just my $0.02.
@TheSaxyGamer
6 жыл бұрын
S-tier is the highest ranking. It's a common system to rank things from S-F.
@RunstarHomer
6 жыл бұрын
Mark Warner, S is the highest rank, above A. It's not that unusual
@fili0938
5 жыл бұрын
@@MarkWarner999 S = Super = the best
@DankPit
2 жыл бұрын
Salad-in 🤔
@Surrealistescape
4 жыл бұрын
Saladin was Kurdish, not Arab 🤦♀️
@H4rppy
4 жыл бұрын
True but he is responsible for the unification of the Arab world, so it sort of counts
@Jousef9
4 жыл бұрын
yes but he ruled most of the arab world today, original arabs come from a small part of the world but they spread their culture and religion to bigger places
@ninjaa3597
4 жыл бұрын
That’s the first thing that comes up when you research this but if you dig deeper he wasn’t, he was an Arab living a Kurdish region.
@BlueBedouin
2 жыл бұрын
He was an Arabized Kurd living in Cairo Egypt.
@gnom98
3 жыл бұрын
So why is Saladin portrayed as a guy almost as peaceful as Ghandi? This guy was another one of those militaristic warmongers.
@caniblmolstr4503
3 жыл бұрын
Coz he was fair when his enemies only looked for plunder. And he was not a warmonger. War was brought to his home by opportunitistic European Knights. You want examples? When the Knights took Jerusalem they burned the Mosques in it, harassed the Jews in it and plundered the wealth of the city. Even though it was a Holy city. Saladin on the other hand, did not harm a single building nor civilian and allowed all captured enemies to go on ransom (it was lucrative) The Crusades were brought to the Middle East by impoverished European Knights who looked for plunder not due to any religious reasons.
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