What an illogical justification for genocide - proof that fundamentalist preachers are totally mad.
@casusbelli9225
3 ай бұрын
fundamentalist preachers just should suffer the logical conclusion of their own preaching
@Boogachomper
4 ай бұрын
This is horrendous. A large net woven of Christian theology is needed to lift the weight of these claims.
@jimbojackson4045
Жыл бұрын
Abortion is close to 65 million today. That's one baby for every year since the dinosaurs went extinct.
@ministeredesaffaireseterne6478
4 жыл бұрын
Never forget that, as the Canaanites, we all deserve capital punishment as a just condamnation from a Holy and Just God. But praise God for.Jesus who has suffered capital punishment in our place so that we may be pardoned .
@brianbucher1313
Жыл бұрын
Even the infants?
@bible4truth
10 жыл бұрын
Sheldon, Jesus is saying to keep all of the commandments if you want to be righteous before God based on your own merit. No one can, but God in the flesh, Jesus, who though innocent bore your sins, so that if you confess you are a sinner and believe on his life, death and resurrection to save you, you SHALL BE SAVED! That is the GOSPEL. It is nothing you do; it is ONLY JESUS (God) that can save men from sin. But men love darkness rather than ligh t
@jesusislord9080
4 жыл бұрын
Straight to the point, and that's all there is to it. So easy to understand that even semantics can't make it confusing.
@saritakatz3454
Жыл бұрын
G-d chose the land of Israel to be His Holy Land .He did not separate other places on earth to be Holy . Thus the sin of Canaanites could not exist on Holy ( separated for G-d) land any longer. This is not to say that Adonai tolerates sin anywhere else . In fact , He hates sin and so should the Believers. Not only we should hate sin , but live a life of a saved person , that is live a righteous life with all our heart , strength and soul . This life is based on Torah’s principles as stated in the Books of Moses.Yeshua is the living Torah. Matthew 5:17 Complete Jewish Bible 17 “Don’t think that I have come to abolish the Torah or the Prophets. I have come not to abolish but to complete.
@Mrityugata
10 жыл бұрын
The whole argument sounds circular: genocides listed in the opening are supposed to prove that every human deserves death, but according to the speaker's thesis every genocide is "justified capital punishment". I don't think I have ever heard a speach that would make Christian doctrine seem any more abominable then this one have.
@mattdeany1
9 жыл бұрын
+Mrtyugata Capital punishment is when a judge inflicts death upon a murderer. It is not circular. Genocide is a murder, God's judgement on a people is not. The question becomes, was God with Israel under Moses?
@danielmann5427
4 жыл бұрын
Atheist complain that God allows evil to even exist and when God destroys evil people they complain. They will argue with anything to suppress the truth in unrighteousness. The speaker is showing showing God is displaying justice on the wicked Canaanites while showing mercy on Israel.
@themanydrippedgod7355
4 жыл бұрын
@@danielmann5427 If you think God needs all the evil in the world to give you anything then you dont even have faith in your own God.
@danielmann5427
4 жыл бұрын
@@themanydrippedgod7355 - God doesn't need anything. I never said He did.
@themanydrippedgod7355
4 жыл бұрын
Then why is God commanding the Isrealites to slaughter and kill men women and children? To punish them? To give them free will? Because it's love? Is it to help them grow? If God created anything for any purpose, that creation is arbitrary because there are an infinite number of methods by which God could fulfill that purpose. God can do anything at any cost even at no cost at all, so why die on the cross? Why all the persecution? Why the suffering? We say God can do anything he wants to (dont tell me he cant do what is logically impossible cause thats just bologne), at the end of the day the only reason why these things happen is because God wants them to happen. If this is good, then is it really a good worth pursuing, to become monsters, to become the very thing we ran away from in the first place.
@misse8787
9 жыл бұрын
Augustine did NOT invent Original Sin, he just recognized it in Scripture, thus Adam and Eve.
@John17230
7 жыл бұрын
Strange that no other christian saw it before the fifth century! If Augustine didn't invent it, where is it stated in the bible. I mean specifically stated.
@killianmiller6107
4 жыл бұрын
Where is it specifically stated in the Bible that everything we ought to believe should be specifically stated in the Bible? As far as I know, abortion isn’t specifically stated in the Bible.
@VieiraFi
3 жыл бұрын
@@John17230 the trinity is also not cited by name. So?
@vonroretz3307
5 ай бұрын
Bible mentions it as sins of the fathers, sins of Adam. An inheritance. The example of Christ shows how to break out of then cycle: hence the symbol of the cross.
@AgDave00
7 жыл бұрын
Man... so good Clay. Thanks so much for sharing your wealth of knowledge toward this issue and for the time that you spent getting to this point. I pray many will grow in their wisdom here.
@AgDave00
3 жыл бұрын
@@AsemSaleh Why do you say that? What, exactly, do you think “piles the shit?”
@AgDave00
2 жыл бұрын
@@AsemSaleh If you read the texts in question more carefully, you'd see what your so-called "genocide" REALLY is. I wonder, if someone rapes a woman, murders a family "in cold blood," molests a child, etc., would you say that there should be a response to that? Or would you prefer that person receive a stern talking to by a good judge, or maybe just forgive them and then take them to lunch? I hope that's as silly to you as it is to me. Now, of course if you are against just punishment for an offense, up to and including a capital offense that leads to a death sentence, then there's really no point in talking, as we don't see eye to eye.
@AgDave00
2 жыл бұрын
@@AsemSaleh You seem to be struggling to follow this topic, so I'll be abundantly clear. You wrote, "Justifying a genocide. You call that " wealth of knowledge "! I call it " a pile of shit". If you believe in a god who would command a genocide, then please answer me: Are you any different from any terrorist in Al-Qaeda?" The justification for your claim is... just saying the words. You wrongly define the problem, and then put your wrong definition on me, rather than noticing you don't recognize the burden of proof is on YOUR claim as to why Jones' proof (and by extension mine also) is wrong. I said, "If you read the texts in question more carefully, you'd see what your so-called "genocide" REALLY is," i.e. that it is NOT a genocide (Deut 9:3-6, Josh 2:1-21, and Gen 15:13-16 for God's patience b/c they weren't bad enough to be destroyed yet). See these texts for 'justification' that goes beyond my own thoughts, is hardly changing a subject, and is actually forcing you to prove your claim. Now, this is where I encourage YOU not to change the subject, Asem.
@AgDave00
2 жыл бұрын
@@AsemSaleh You should do more research Asem. IF you DID (I make allowance for your unwillingness to prove your current opinion wrong), you would see that not everyone in these nations in Canaan was destroyed, that some of them actually were in the Messianic line that led to Jesus. Those who lived did so for a reason the scriptures record, and those who died did so for a reason the scriptures record. The hypotheses of every skeptic out there are mental machinations on a sandy "bedrock" of imagination. Making out these people as knuckle-dragging troglodytes is a shame. And it's historically ignorant and myopic. There is a very good reason skeptics don't look deeper into the issues they attack - by in large, those who make a careful study of their concerns in the Bible, even to prove Christianity false, wind up coming to the conclusion that it's true. Asem, I'm one of those Christians that reads scripture every day, and I eat up skeptical literature for fun, and it's only built my faith stronger because the arguments are so weak. I've already addressed your foolish "genocide" comment, as have numerous wiser theologians long before me, so I won't address it again. You can continue to believe falsehood on blind faith if you so choose. As for "Why kill children," I seriously doubt you ask that because you care about the answer. Unless I'm very much mistaken, you're a skeptic for which any objection will do. But please know, drive-by attacks on a position and then running away without looking into the response does NOT mean that you've "won the argument." It's willful ignorance in this case, but you're entitled to your position - you're just not guaranteed to be right because you're passionate in your position. If I'm wrong and you want to dig deeper, you can read here (clayjones.net/2015/07/canaanite-children-2/) or watch this video (kzitem.info/news/bejne/xZiIvquwpH59l4o).
@casusbelli9225
3 ай бұрын
@@AgDave00 >just punishment So, why you won't just pay reparations towards black people for slavery?
@noneofyourbusiness7055
4 ай бұрын
Literally justifying atrocity, based on the assumption of atrocity. Your biblical morality is one of the most deeply immoral ones around, even by your own christian standards.
@sanukalideshar4832
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for God answers my long question through you.Great
@handstandish
2 жыл бұрын
Were the babies evil? Did the infants deserve to die by sword?
@Forevertrue
4 жыл бұрын
This is certainly beaten to death on You Tube. So if God tells you to do something, YOU do it and not pass judgement on his decision. Come on! what is wrong with you? The Canaanites are todays Democrats.
@alexharvey452
Жыл бұрын
I wish some of you would at least read from scripture-and try to understand God’s word. The love you feel in your heart for family and friends-is a trait that the Lord blesses us with-why do people say that in the Old Testament,God went around killing people because he’s so evil? He had the Canaanites killed,because they practiced taboo sex,and actually sacrificed their own children(torched them) to appease their “gods”-God is love,he only destroys evil
@onionbelly_
9 ай бұрын
The attempt to justify infanticide in itself is disgusting, but the Christian is actually doing it on the basis that the parents were bad people. This is called psychopathy in the real world.
@allegedboredbigotbear4316
4 жыл бұрын
The doctrine of original sin can justify all genocide. And it is true foolishness.
@kingofthemultiverse4148
Жыл бұрын
You're the fool, original sin is a completely Biblical doctrine, and why are you even here if you disagree,? go to one of You're athiest channels.
@soul_luv3710
4 жыл бұрын
I think it’s very interesting what he said at the beginning about Adams offspring being born with sin. I’ve come across several scientific studies that have found a genetic marker for sin. Once the person committed say adultery, a marker was found in the same place as all the others in the group tested that had also committed adultery, and this those are then passed to their offspring as well. It’s amazing how science is just now beginning to catch up to the Bible. Quite fascinating indeed.
@jockmcfrog3747
3 жыл бұрын
Utter pish.
@bible4truth
10 жыл бұрын
The Bible bears witness to itself. We all do things we know are wrong, while pointing out the wrong in others--God says it; you KNOW IT IS TRUE. If you want to be perfect in you own eyes, you have to go to an island because even between two people this is strife because have a sense if right and wrong, and they both will offend the moral law sooner or later. It is undeniable, don't believe it: GET MARRIED : )
@nicktheflanders
5 жыл бұрын
Which group is more likely to commit future genocide? A: A people group who have a specific historical case of genocide that they believe was justified and right. OR B: A people group that believes genocide is wrong in all circumstances. ???
@madara2051
5 жыл бұрын
God cannot commit genocide, as it is his right to take life as he wills. The canaanites were horribly evil, they were so evil and horrible that God simply could not let their iniquity continue into the world, these people for example, literally sacrafices their chilldren, burned them alive at birth, in Gods position you wouldnt blink an eye before wiping them out.
@toddconnell8324
4 жыл бұрын
C: Any human who wants to kill lots of humans for any reason they so desire (see abortion).
@jesusislord9080
4 жыл бұрын
That depends on if B is a group of people who are atheists? If so how and why do they even have morals? And what standard are they basing them on? Seems to me group B wants me to thank the head of lettuce for each leaf I eat in every sandwich/salad.
@jesusislord9080
4 жыл бұрын
So according to this everyone in B is pro life as well I take it? Supporting abortion on a mass scale is genocide actually.
@brianbucher1313
4 жыл бұрын
@@madara2051 If God did the killing himself you would have a point, but he commanded humans to do it. It's either objectively moral for human beings to slaughter children in all times, places, and circumstances or it's objectively immoral for human beings to slaughter children in all times, places, and circumstances, no exceptions.
@jockmcfrog3747
3 жыл бұрын
Sick sick sick.
@midlander4
2 жыл бұрын
This man is deranged
@1machoguerrereo508
2 жыл бұрын
Sin is ALWAYS A CHOICE. infants and little children are innocent. Jesus was tempted in all points as we are, but he CHOSE NOT TO SIN.
@alexandergott3409
2 жыл бұрын
What about original sin? That we are born into sin/sinful nature from the fall of Adam and Eve? Wouldn't that make children also sinful in nature? And the wages of sin is death after all.
@1machoguerrereo508
2 жыл бұрын
We inherit the consequences of Adam and eve's sin, which is physical death, not their sins, we reap spiritual death, when we choose to sin.
@robanddawnramcharan6408
3 жыл бұрын
One of the arguments against abortion draws a distinction between capital punishment and ending the life of an unborn baby, based on the fact that the baby has done nothing that can be characterized as a capital offense. If the babies who were being carried by pregnant Canaanite women were so evil, even in utero, that they had to be killed, it undermines a central pro-life argument. It does not necessarily mean it was unjustified, since God is by definition justified in everything He does, but it shifts the argument justifying the wholesale killing of the Canaanites away from "they were awful people" to "God commands it".
@beowulf.reborn
4 жыл бұрын
Giving evidence of adults committing heinous, evil, wicked acts does nothing to prove Original Sin (by which you seem to actually mean Original Guilt, as opposed to a view of Original Sin which speaks to man's propensity to do evil, not some inherited state of being evil.). It only proves that sinners are evil. To prove Original Sin (again, Guilt, or Natural Evil) you have to prove that the newborn infant that is less than a second old is evil. All Christians agree that children go astray from birth, but you cannot stray from a path you were never on. Notice how Romans 3 is all about what people do, or don't do, and not about what Adam did, Paul points at the sinner, not at the sinner's forefathers. Note, "All have turned away", they were not born facing away, they turned themselves away. Even in Romans 5 where Paul addresses Adam's sin, and death entering the world through his sin, he points out that death passes to all men because they all sin. And again, in Romans 7 Paul states that he was alive once, and then he died when he sinned. He does not say that he was born dead in Adam's sin. Also, I find it interesting that you quote from Ezekiel to show that God's ways are just, and that man's ways are not just, but you seem to miss the entire point of that passage, which is that God does *not* hold children responsible for the sins of their parents, the children are not put to death because of the sins of their fathers, or their grandfathers, or even their forefather Adam. People are to be put to death for their own sins. Now, if you want to argue that a small child is a sinner and therefore deserving of death, that's fine, but argue it based upon the child's sin, not based upon their parents' sin. When God sends the Israelites into the land of Canaan, yes it is as a judgment against the Canaanites, and that is a large reason why He calls for the death of them, however, it is only part of the reason. Another reason He calls for their death is not one of judgment against the Canaanites, but of preventing the Israelites themselves from being led astray and falling into the sins of the Canaanites. The children could be said to be punished for the sins they have themselves committed, but it can also be said that they are to be killed in order to prevent them from doing the evils they would do if given the chance. In this way, it is like a police officer who shoots a criminal who is about to murder somebody, the criminal has not actually yet murdered the person, but if the Police officer does not prevent them then they will. Few would argue that the Police Officer is not justified in shooting the criminal, and yet the Police Officer's knowledge is limited, he simply has to reason upon what he knows of the situation, whether or not the criminal is going to kill somebody or not. God, on the other hand, has complete knowledge of all future events, including all future counterfactuals, and so He knows with absolute certainty what those children would do if allowed to live, and so He is 100% justified in preventing them from committing further evil. Furthermore, it can be reasoned that in preventing the children from growing up to do the evils they would have, God is, in fact, extending mercy to them, as He is keeping them from doing things that they would then be judged for. So, by calling for their temporal death, He is sparing them from being punished eternally for crimes they would later commit had He not prevented them. And not only is this an act of mercy towards them but the very reason He does so is to bring about the salvation of sinners through the coming of the Messiah that would take place in the land at a later time. So He is preparing the way to extend mercy to the whole world. So again, those in the land are judged for their own sins and are also prevented from committing further sins in the future which they would then also have to be judged for, this is a form of mercy. And then, through that prevention, God is able to set up the coming of the Messiah, the redemption of fallen man, and the provision of salvation for the whole world through faith in Jesus.
@noahtheshipbuilder1778
4 жыл бұрын
I agree that this is a very difficult issue. However, God did NOT say to “KILL” the Canaanites. He actually said to “DRIVE OUT” the Canaanites. Have a look at the many verses that say this in Exodus (eg.34.11), and Deuteronomy (eg.7.22). Regarding where it uses words like “destroy”, or “wipe out”, it is talking about destroying their religion and culture. This is because the Canaanites practised mass human sacrifices to their gods. They also had abhorrent practices like bestiality and incest, which would have caused widespread diseases and deformity.
@grimlund
3 жыл бұрын
There are quite a few "difficult" verses in the Bible. How about Jephtha who did sacrifice his own daughter to God? Try to go around that thing. There are plenty of f----d up things in the Bible.
@Debating_Truth
2 жыл бұрын
@@grimlund God wasn’t pleased with what Jepthda did
@grimlund
2 жыл бұрын
@@Debating_Truth If God wasnt pleased, why didnt he stopped Jephtha from doing what he did?
@Debating_Truth
2 жыл бұрын
@@grimlund No show me where God himself says “im pleased with what you done” if not your making an argument from silence therefore your argument is invalid, the burden of proof is on you too provide evidence! Furthermore there are verses in the Bible that show God hates human and child sacrifice such as 👇 Leviticus 18:21 “You shall not give any of your children to offer them to Molech, nor shall you profane the name of your God; I am the LORD.” Jeremiah 32:35 "They built the high places of Baal that are in the valley of Ben-hinnom to cause their sons and their daughters to pass through the fire to Molech, which I had not commanded them nor had it entered My mind that they should do this abomination, to cause Judah to sin.” I would love for you to accept my challenge that im setting forth show me where God says he’s pleased with Jepthda if not than its an argument from silence!!
@Debating_Truth
2 жыл бұрын
@@grimlund And also the context of the book of Judges is that the people that were mentioned in that book were morally corrupt and evil why is that? The book answers!!! Judges 21:25 In those days there was no king in Israel; everyone did what was right in his own eyes. And this is why they were evil they did what was right in there own eyes because they had no king…..
@jackwilmoresongs
9 жыл бұрын
Is there something wring with the audio volume at places in this video? If so they should be fixed as it is a worthwhile message to hear.
@paulbedardmath8541
4 жыл бұрын
This is just about the most depressing and dehumanizing view of religion I’ve ever seen. This guy actually uses his own foster daughter exploring her sexuality as a justification for claiming that children of bad parents deserve death. Is that why people love Jesus? Jesus said “let the little children come into me.” I’m sickened and saddened by this nonsense.
@davidacreman6446
3 жыл бұрын
He's not presenting a 'view of religion', nor is he 'dehumanising' the canaanites or anyone else - he's saying ALL of us humans are like this: History and the modern day shows that ordinary humans will commit atrocities when the society starts to consider them acceptable. Nice rhetoric though, 8/10 for misrepresentation and picking the most 'trigger-worthy' side-note to take out of context and treat like it was the core of his argument. The particular 30 second anecdote about the girl (in a 44 minute lecture) is not trying to justify killing children of bad parents, as you allege. He uses it as a side point to counter one very specific objection only - namely 'if the children of the horrific, child-murdering, twisted, rape-glorifying parents had lived longer maybe they would have turned good'. He simply mentions the anecdote as part of pointing out that it's not our experience that this happens, so it's not a reasonable objection! He's not somehow acting like God orders anyone to kill for that reason at all. The point is that if God appeared visibly to the israelites (eg Joshua 5 and many other times) and said there isn't anyone righteous left in the city...and we do know they were an extremely evil civilisation...and we know that generally children in such an environment become products of that environment (eg the Hitler youth)....on what rational grounds do we argue that any of the children were likely to completely reverse the pattern if left alone? Let's assume it was a bad example or even that the presenter is a terrible person - what does that even get you? It's not like his argument depends on either of those factors. It's not like that makes any of his points about human evil and genocides usually being committed by ordinary people like you and me just disappear. Do you think humans are inherently good and never ever deserve death? Alright, give some evidence for it that also accounts for the way ordinary people behave when they can get away with it. Who lies to their boss? Humans. Who thinks that's completely legit? Most people, even most bosses! Who looks at porn without bothering to wonder how the industry exploits women? Humans. Who thinks that's a totally normal and healthy thing to do? Humans. Who gets unreasonably angry for trivial reasons (hangry?) then later acts like it's no big deal and just part of life? Humans. Who decides one group of people don't count as 'humans' and are acceptable targets for weird and sadistic abuse? Humans throughout the ages, right up to the George Floyd incident! Who gets so outraged by the George Floyd incident that they start smashing other completely uninvolved peoples' property which happen to contain nice shiny things they want? Humans! Who likes to pretend that sort of thing is rare? Humans! Remember, the genocide researchers he quotes are not generally Christians - what explanation can you offer to them? If you can't explain why ordinary people will commit horrific evils when it becomes convenient to them, how can you say that any of us deserves better than what the canaanites got? You think pre-pubescent girls doing sexualised dances is perfectly healthy? What, is that you 'exploring your sexuality' now? Thankfully that probably isn't the case...however it is a good example of how us humans can justify pretty much anything if we feel like we have popular opinion on our side or that calling it out as wrong would make us unpopular. THAT is the core of his argument, and you have just proved it by using the phrase 'exploring her sexuality' to describe the results of child sexual abuse of a young girl and her acclimatisation to that abuse! If you were alive during the slave trade, it's highly likely that you would have found their way of phrasing things sufficient justification for their actions too. I'm not picking on you - I'm just stating that 99% of people at the time thought that was fine, so what makes you think you're doing any better than that when you justify prepubescent child sexualisation? The Bible is a diverse but united whole, so *of course* Jesus welcomes anyone to himself from all ages, nations and backgrounds. God made that clear from the very beginning - whilst he would not just 'leave' the guilty unpunished (ie he won't *ignore* sin), he is very eager to forgive humans who recognise it in themselves and seek his forgiveness and help. Basically, we can either have the restorative justice or the punitive justice, and it's a free choice which you can hardly call unfair! And what is one of the larger chunks of the 'conquest of canaan' narrative? Why, it's the story of the redemption of one of the canaanites, a prostitute (and her entire family), whose life is spared simply for turning her back on the evils of her society and her old lifestyle. That's the point of the whole account. We all deserve death (and all receive it too, you will note, so it's not like we face a different choice to the canaanites!) but are *all* offered redemption freely at God's own cost.
@MPaulHolmesMPH
4 жыл бұрын
This was really good.
@candyluna2929
3 жыл бұрын
But there was no zyclon b ...just saying
@berniemaopolski4870
5 жыл бұрын
Except it never happened. It's a myth the same as Noah or Jason and the Argonauts. However justifying genocide because an imaginary being ordered it is stupid.
@coachmarc2002
5 жыл бұрын
And believing that life arose from non-living stuff unguided in some mud puddle millions of years ago is somehow intelligent? And don't say you don't believe that because it's the only other choice if God doesn't exist.
@jockmcfrog3747
3 жыл бұрын
@@coachmarc2002 How stupid can you be? Of course there are more options and no need to choose until actual evidence is found.
@gerasimoseliasmessaris2499
3 жыл бұрын
Do forget the Turks
@Bugsy0333
3 жыл бұрын
A prime example of being brainwashed.
@MikeJunior94
11 жыл бұрын
Not very smart to start a lecture about OT moral issues with the Augustinian theology of original sin...
@misse8787
6 жыл бұрын
Why not?
@2muchswag11
5 жыл бұрын
It's not Augustian. It's biblical and a Christian motif that has promulgated throughout the scriptures.
@soul_luv3710
4 жыл бұрын
Science has now discovered that sin produces certain genetic markers that are then passed onto offspring.
@casusbelli9225
3 ай бұрын
@@soul_luv3710 Source: pulled it from your ass?
@MikeJunior94
11 жыл бұрын
04:30 Human evil does not show the theological view of original sin to be correct or proper. Perfectly good models existed before Augustine came about.
@misse8787
6 жыл бұрын
Really? what human had perfect morals?
@danielmann5427
4 жыл бұрын
Augustine didn't invent original sin
@jesusislord9080
4 жыл бұрын
@@misse8787 only Jesus Christ
@skellingtonstar74
7 жыл бұрын
very good. Thank you so much 🙏❤
@danjones9007
5 жыл бұрын
If it lives, it will die. It applies to plants and all animals. It has nothing to do with disobedience or sin. I can’t be mad at god for murder because god is imaginary. I forgive god.... he was created in a barbaric time.
@rampartranger7749
5 жыл бұрын
Dan Jones, the barbaric rime must have been our time, in terms of sheer numbers, the last hundred years saw more “ tribal” violence than ever before, this speaker clearly catalogues. I agree that in the name of Christianity, many people have been killed, ditto in the name of Naziism, or of Socialism, or Japanese racial superiority, etc., etc., on and on. There is something deeper wrong with humankind.
@sheldoncole1001
10 жыл бұрын
Augustine invented "original sin" and even what we know about "grace"... it was simple...a man asked Jesus how to be saved and He said..."keep the commandments"...not my words, His. Jesus is the one who stops God the Father from obliterating us each time we sin (because He can testify to our temp tations). That's why Jesus said, "Obey the commandments" He wants to avoid as much as he can to convince his father not to destroy us all again.
@Mcfirefly2
5 жыл бұрын
Neither grace nor an inborn sin nature were created by Augustine. Both were taught in the Bible, a good 300+ before Augustine. I believe Augustine made a wreck of Christian doctrine, including original sin and the grace of God,, but the truth about hose things was taught in the Bible.
@Debating_Truth
2 жыл бұрын
The Bible invented original sin
@SolidGold1221
6 жыл бұрын
I'm hoping at this point in time in wich I am writing this that he will mention the trans atlantic slave trade.
@jesusislord9080
4 жыл бұрын
Why not go back to the bronze age collapse with the Hellots? Mycenae people of Greece enslaved by the Spartans. They built and maintained that land not the Retarded Spartans.
@grimlund
3 жыл бұрын
The Bible is pro-slavery.
@hansschmitthenner7961
3 ай бұрын
This is a very sick man. My father was a minister and this is not the belief system I grew up with.
@georgekavanagh8220
2 ай бұрын
So sorry, we deceive ourselves into thinking we are really not that bad. I'm a retired pastor and I have seen enough to know that he is right. I really wish he was wrong, but no. We hate the truth because it convicts us. The miracle is that God still loves us.
@gerasimoseliasmessaris2499
3 жыл бұрын
Pontiac and Assyrian Genocide
@Sylotizeecontact
Ай бұрын
Pontic Greek kunu genoecide hoisa nohoy.Aaru assyrian maanuh je maanuh je russian army homorton korisa.Aaru assyrian aaru poetic Eman turk maanuh maarisa.Ei genoecide kotha nohoy,ek jaati maanuh arek jaati logot lorisa.Aaru Eman native american maanuh maarisa,aaru Eman black maanuh slave trade homoy ei kotha kohiba nohoy.
@Sylotizeecontact
Ай бұрын
Aaru christian bilak emaan muslim maarisa bosnia, lebanon, india,arabia aaru goa porat kiman yahudi,hindu aaru Jew bilak maanuh maarisa.Ei homoy christian hontrasi niri niri maanuh rotkchap korisa. Ei karono indian government freedom of religion act pass korisa.
@tonymichaud8683
4 жыл бұрын
Interesting but how does this answer the question? It does not. Mr Jones merely attributed human reasoning to God.
@Lordpraisethe
2 жыл бұрын
12:41
@jasonchelette8175
4 жыл бұрын
Capital punishment on the children. Give me a break. God could have snapped his fingers and the children be with him in heaven instantly.
@jesusislord9080
4 жыл бұрын
Could've but he didn't, there's a reason for that.
@jasonchelette8175
4 жыл бұрын
@@jesusislord9080 Why is the reason not revealed?
@jesusislord9080
4 жыл бұрын
@@jasonchelette8175 it is you just have to keep reading all of it, not just a verse or two and then take it out of context without an all around understanding.
@Forevertrue
4 жыл бұрын
Nope I will not and neither will God.
@KohanKilletz
2 жыл бұрын
@@jesusislord9080 yes, the reason is "God" is the evil one
@Bugsy0333
3 жыл бұрын
The cosmic lesson here is that the decision that was made was immoral.
@rocio8851
4 жыл бұрын
False interpretations of the Bible
@myopenmind527
5 жыл бұрын
It would appear that all he has been able to demonstrate is that a small majority of people follow orders when given to them by authority figures. In many cases the consequence of non-following orders was death or torture for the individuals themselves. In fact there are plenty of examples of genocide been performed at the hands of Christians or Muslims. So belief in the abrahamic god does not protect against this genocidal tendency. In fact more often than not what is at the heart of this tendency to genocide is the tendency within society for tribalism in the formation of tribal groups. Genocide typically is not perpetuated against one’s own tribal group. It is only #education not religion that will prevent man from repeating this behaviour. Once educated we should all begin to realise that we are in fact but one species. Regardless of skin colour national origin spoken language and culture we all members of the one species Namely Homo sapiens.
@juancrios-qs8ri
6 жыл бұрын
Oh yes, there was no dog, no horse, no animal in Canaan that deserved to live , so God killed them,too. there were so wicked.(?????)
@danielmann5427
4 жыл бұрын
You don't understand federal representative headship. Creation is for man not man for creation. Man is to have dominion over creation. Man's rebellion cause him and all creation to come under the curse. Thus a lion eats a deer and you don't complain that the deer didn't deserve to be prey. WHY?
@marwanabuhasan8979
4 жыл бұрын
Here is the proof that you are worshiping the devil , the true God will not command a genocide for land theft all while making up some trash stories to justify it , if you can't see that , then you are a brain wadhed idiot.
@xnouztion2660
4 жыл бұрын
Their animals were used in there worship, sex was probably involved with these animals seems God saw these animals as contaminated
@killianmiller6107
4 жыл бұрын
It’s precisely the devil who would make us think the canaanites getting their just deserves is an evil event. It is precisely this way of thinking, that we think we know better than God, that lost us Eden.
@MPaulHolmesMPH
4 жыл бұрын
Wait, so, their dog, which would have lived to 11 years old, was cut down in his prime when he was 6 years old? haha. So evil!
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