It is so awesome than Jan treats each machine like it's his personal use machine. A lot of other youtubers would have just hosed it off and thrown it aside once they found the fault in a "repair marathon". Even though Jan probably has dozens of breadbins, the next owner will treasure this machine because of the care he put into it.
@krnlg
Жыл бұрын
@@Throckmorton.ScribblemongerProbably unlikely that had any bad effect on it. Better than rushing a restoration due to lack of time or inclination.
@haxxy40
Жыл бұрын
So much pure alcohol vapor in the air from all that spraying.. I bet you were feeling quite happy after all that work 😁
@PCBWay
Жыл бұрын
Massive thanks for your support, Jan ♥
@SobieRobie
Жыл бұрын
We had SECAM in Poland. In the time when we were in the process of switching to PAL the press titled it as: "ImPALement". So funny that I remember it after 25 years or so.
@douro20
Жыл бұрын
Nearly all OIRT countries, with the exception of Finland and China, used SECAM, with a special band plan designed in an attempt to prevent Western broadcasts from being received. Finland was a special case, as they were simultaneously members of OIRT and EBU before the two were merged.
@JanBeta
Жыл бұрын
Haha, that is hilarious. :D
@SobieRobie
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for explanation.@@douro20
@kaitlyn__L
11 ай бұрын
@@douro20 you know, I'd often wondered why the USSR went with SECAM when it was slightly more costly to implement in circuitry. Hadn't considered deliberate incompatibility with neighbouring broadcasts would be part of it, but it makes total sense.
@tommyovesen
Жыл бұрын
Great work Jan! Always nice to see a C64 being restored!
@JanBeta
Жыл бұрын
Thanks! Super happy with the result. :)
@jenshoffmannolsen
Жыл бұрын
Arghh..! What a spoiler.
@tommyovesen
Жыл бұрын
Sorry. Don't read comments before watching :)@@jenshoffmannolsen
@meh3247
Жыл бұрын
"THIS MACHINE KILLS FASCISTS"
@JanBeta
Жыл бұрын
Thanks! It's always great fun to resurrect these machines (although it can be a bit tedious at times)! :D
@meh3247
Жыл бұрын
@@JanBeta I always found that the tedious moments can be quite meditative... Not always though, sometimes things can be a bugger!
@binxyde
Жыл бұрын
You should call your landlord to renew the silicone joints in your shower, because there is mold in it. Its not only unhealthy, it also can damage the building. Molded joints lose their sealing function... To get rid of the mold only, u can use for example "Mellerud Schimmelentferner mit aktiv Chlor" (Mold killer with chloride)! 😉 But nice video! Love your effort!
@twocvbloke
Жыл бұрын
It's funny how the TV sees the weird signal and just goes "Hmm, must be French!"... :P
@erikreimann5556
Жыл бұрын
Hello Jan, thanks for the effort to shoot the video! Back then I had a "Magic Formula" module and I liked the machine language monitor and its features to speed up disk operations - well worth checking out
@JanBeta
Жыл бұрын
I am definitely going to look into the Magic Formel some more. Seems to have a lot of functionality. :)
@TSteffi
11 ай бұрын
Those EPROMs are less sensitive than most people believe. I once left some outside on the window board for a whole summer and they still were not blank. Corrupted, sure, but even months of direct sunlight didn't fully erase them. So I would say an EPROM that is enclosed in a plastic shell should be totally safe.
@philkennedy342
11 ай бұрын
Nice work I’ve had several c64s loved owning them sold them and to this day I regret doing that.. thanks for sharing 👍👍👍
@mk500
Жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed this video. Especially since I’ve been doing similar cleaning myself and like to see your techniques. It feels so good giving new life to these machines.
@aleskranjc6709
Жыл бұрын
At 27:34, the "broken" VIC II might have pin 21 placed out of socket. But I doubt it was misplaced twice. Difficult to see.
@SobieRobie
Жыл бұрын
And this is pin 21 right? Color clock...
@DumahBrazorf
Жыл бұрын
@29:44 is more clear
@senilyDeluxe
Жыл бұрын
I would hook it to a CRT monitor, run some demos and see if the color is the only thing that's wrong. As I always say, a flaky chip is better than none.
@JanBeta
Жыл бұрын
I'm going to check that, thanks for pointing that out. It may very well be that it had a bent or crusty pin!
@BottIsNotABot
Жыл бұрын
Top work as always Jan! Another C64 given a new lease of life.
@andrewwolf4430
Жыл бұрын
Had a c64 with a tape drive. Modem and printer in college in the mid 80’s. Used it to access the schools mainframe for my Fortran class. Much easier to do it from my room late at night. And that allowed me to avoid programming via punchcards.
@JanBeta
Жыл бұрын
Nice! I love the fact that the C64 had so many uses back in the day, even for more "professional" use cases. :)
@rickedwards6150
Жыл бұрын
I wish I’d had a C64 back then. My roommate and I had to rent a terminal. We probably could have bought a C64 for what we spent that year. Did you have other people working on programming assignments in your room until the wee hours? We really should have charged for it.
@horusfalcon
Жыл бұрын
So good to see another of your videos. I know it's going to be a good one when you put on the "murder gloves"...
@JanBeta
Жыл бұрын
Only that my "murder gloves" are used to resurrect things (most of the times). ;)
@clz1978
Жыл бұрын
es gab mehere SECAM Standards - in Frankreich z.B. eine andere Variante als in Ost-Europa (z.B. Polen). Ich kann mich erinnern, dass wir in den 80er Jahren einen Fernseher nach Frankreich mitnehmen wollten, welcher PAL/SECAM unterstützte, dort dann aber nur ein S/W Bild anzeigte. Nach Nachfrage bei einem Fernsehtechniker (damals gabs kein Google ;) ) erklärte er uns den Unterschied zwischen SECAM-OST und dem in Frankreich genutzten SECAM
@JanBeta
Жыл бұрын
Ah, du hast recht, daran habe ich nicht gedacht! Ich erinnere mich vage daran, dass wir früher terrestrisch DDR-Fernsehen empfangen konnten (bin in der Nähe von Lübeck aufgewachsen, also relativ nahe an der Grenze), allerdings wurde das nur in schwarz-weiß angezeigt. Das war dann ziemlich sicher im SECAM-Ost Standard. Danke für die Erinnerung! :)
@Miidolf
Жыл бұрын
Fascinating work. Many thanks Jan :)
@JanBeta
Жыл бұрын
Glad you like it! :)
@Ladefuss
Жыл бұрын
These videos are so enjoyable. Especially the ones where you really struggle to locate the solutions. Vielen dank Jan
@JanBeta
Жыл бұрын
Thanks! Glad you enjoy watching these (I certainly enjoy making them)!
@user-fu8pf8ww5u
Жыл бұрын
True class act at work, taking such care and perfection. It is Amazing what a man like you can do. If I was on a rocket to the moon, you are on my long list, my very long list of people at mission control watching my back!
@JanBeta
Жыл бұрын
I feel honored although I guess (and hope) they would probably use more modern technology at Mission Control these days... :D
@zednott
Жыл бұрын
you should invest in a small cheap ultrasonic cleaner, like the ones used for rings. think you can pick them up for around 30 - 50 $ would save a lot of time on the springs and such. i mean if your going to be working on things like this a lot.
@PaulinesPastimes
Жыл бұрын
Lovely job, great to see it all fresh and improved. 😊
@patriziopolcri995
Жыл бұрын
Great job Jan!
@BillAnt
Жыл бұрын
OMG I have the same exact model hot air station and Weller soldering iron on my work desk. Hate the air's digital temp dial (except for the analog air flow dial), and love the analog temp Weller. heh
@lactobacillusprime
Жыл бұрын
Quite liked Simon’s basic back in the day.
@JanBeta
Жыл бұрын
Yes! It was awesome. I remember playing around with it a lot as a kid, making my own sprites and drawing graphics and such. :)
@jeeshkev
Жыл бұрын
Jan, awesome video and well done with the flood saved computers. Where did you get that awesome shirt from?
@JanBeta
Жыл бұрын
Thanks! I think I got the shirt from an eBay seller but it was ages ago so I'm not 100% sure.
@YogSothoth1969
Жыл бұрын
Great work, klasse gemacht :-) And I was very amazed seeing Swiss Army Knifes on your bench!!! :-) Best wishes, Michael...
@JanBeta
Жыл бұрын
Thanks! Yes, Swiss army knives are invaluable tools for me. :)
@YogSothoth1969
Жыл бұрын
😃
@lactobacillusprime
Жыл бұрын
Great job!
@more.power.
Жыл бұрын
Thank You Jan excellent video. Cheers
@giuseppelavecchia775
Жыл бұрын
Jan ho sempre detto che sei in gamba,computer perfetto!
@loudscotsbloke
Жыл бұрын
Great video as always mate! Surprised you opted to stick with the 7805 and 12 and didnt go for a DC to DC switching alternative.
@JanBeta
Жыл бұрын
Ah, I tried the switching regulators some times and they do work fine (except for the 12V regulators causing some weird behavior from the SID in certain configurations). I wanted to keep this one original though.
@xerxes4863
Жыл бұрын
Hi Jan 😊. Thanks for your great stuff. I have a question; do you know where in the EU I can find the type of "crow bar" you're using for lifting the smaller chips?
@dozern
Жыл бұрын
Yes! It's called a "Chip Lifter", and is available from mouser (which is in Sweden atleast). His other chip-extractor is also available from the same site. (called "EX-2") I have bought both since seeing them on Jan's channel, and they are worth the price.
@xerxes4863
Жыл бұрын
@@dozern Thank you 🙂. Seems much better than the homemade one I'm using today.
@JanBeta
Жыл бұрын
The one I use (only just got it for my birthday very recently) is a Wiha brand kind of "deluxe“ version of that chip lifter. You can definitely get away with less expensive ones! Works way better than using a screwdriver though. :D
@xerxes4863
Жыл бұрын
@@JanBeta Haha! Thank you, Jan. I'll have a look at Mouser and perhaps add something to my wishlist 😅.
@dennisp.2147
Жыл бұрын
The broken VIC looked like you had a pin out of the socket...
@JanBeta
Жыл бұрын
Yes, that might actually be. I am going to check that again!
@Lynxxde
Жыл бұрын
I also had a Magic Formel back then, afaik it had also a fastloader, funktionkeys in basic for dir/fileloading, hex monitor, and some more goodies ..
@JanBeta
Жыл бұрын
Nice! I'm definitely going to look into that cartridge some more. Possibly there's even going to be a video eventually. :)
@gaborszabo6406
Жыл бұрын
Yes, another c64! Im happy!
@januszkszczotek8587
Жыл бұрын
28:00 Secam was used in France and East Germany.
@terryraymond7984
Жыл бұрын
Yay the 64 lives still
@albertoernestini6279
Жыл бұрын
Great work Jan!
@JanBeta
Жыл бұрын
Thank you! :)
@Mr_Meowingtons
Жыл бұрын
Thats how i lost my Apple II GS a commadore 128 and 5 IBM PC's from the early to late 80's
@KrautRockt
Жыл бұрын
hey jan..! super folge mit meinen liebling rechner..! eine frage: sollte man kondis und co. tauschen wenn sie extremen schlamm ab bekommen haben? gerade im bezug auslaufen/lebensdauer?? .. ich hatte einmal ein simos basic modul in einem gammelhaus gefunden. das lag im regen-wasser. ich habs gereinigt und es funktioniert heute noch. die teile sind echt robus, vach 10 jahrent..! alles gute, danke für die clips und ich wünsch dir und allen einen restliche schönen sommer, und wenig regen .-)
@acousvnt
Жыл бұрын
There's something unsettling about that Bert head.
@JanBeta
Жыл бұрын
It's the remainder of an old hand puppet I had since I was a kid. It's now watching over me when I repair stuff. :D
@jameslewis2635
Жыл бұрын
Considering how many of these 'thousand screw keyboards' Jan has to dismantle, I am surprised that some tool kit maker doesn't send him an electric screwdriver for 'review'.
@JanBeta
Жыл бұрын
I don't really like using power tools in these restorations. The parts are usually super brittle and I like to have some fine control over the tension etc. For those keyboard screws, an electric screwdriver would probably be just fine though. ;)
@NoobtasticASB
Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@JanBeta
Жыл бұрын
Hey, thanks for the donation! Glad you liked the video! :)
@samuraidriver4x4
Жыл бұрын
I really need to get myself a C64c like i had in the past. They are just so hard to get for a decent price.
@JanBeta
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, unfortunately the retro computing hobby got more expensive in recent years. Hope you manage to find a reasonably priced one soon! Maybe try joining one of the retro forums and ask around a bit, most of the time there's some friendly people around who won't ask current eBay moon prices.
@samuraidriver4x4
Жыл бұрын
@@JanBetabreadbin's are plentiful for around 100 to 150 euros working but the 64C is a bit harder to find. Some people have the courage to ask 500+ euros for one. Just takes some time and have a bit of luck.
@domramsey
Жыл бұрын
@@JanBeta The last one I bought of eBay UK was £25. They are not at all expensive here.
@Zanaz728
Жыл бұрын
I'm interested to get one too👍
@TRONMAGNUM2099
Жыл бұрын
Excellent work as always.
@JanBeta
Жыл бұрын
Thank you! :)
@josehereter4062
Жыл бұрын
minute 34:37 looking at the link in the video, exelent!!!!
@rager1969
Жыл бұрын
Please make a vide on that Magic Formel cartridge and maybe that BASIC cart, too.
@JanBeta
Жыл бұрын
I am definitely going to read up on the Magic Formel cart. Seems to be interesting! If I manage to find enough interesting stuff to make a video, I'm going to do it. :)
@e_i_s_f_u_c_h_s
Жыл бұрын
@JanBeta I still have my Magic Formel (gray case with a freezer button on it) that I got way back then. It was my go-to cartridge for every day assembly programming, freezing, hacking. Super stoked to see one of them in a retro video finally! I had the impression that nobody ever heard of this cartridge type except for me! :-D It has some super neat features like assembler coding in the basic editor, a really good fast loader that does not need any extra cables, machine monitor and basic extension. It also gives you a 1351 mouse interface (F7 on the reset screen) but I did not find that as useful as the rest of the module. Keep up the great work, Jan!
@dirkkuckelberg7380
Жыл бұрын
Hallo Jan. Ich hab da so eine Frage im Kopf... Wäre es nicht sicherer Boards mit noch vorhandenen Komponenten nicht direkt unter den laufenden Wasserhahn zu halten? Die Wasserleitungen sind ja, wie Wasser ja auch, leitfähig. Sicherlich sollte/darf das eigentlich nicht sein das Wasserhähne bzw. das Wasser was aus dem Hahn kommt irgendwie Strom führt, aber was wenn doch? Lieben Gruß aus Köln. 👍✌
@JanBeta
Жыл бұрын
Wenn die Wasserleitungen anständig verlegt sind, sind die geerdet, also besteht keine akute Gefahr für die Boards. Ist natürlich trotzdem immer ein bisschen ein Risiko. Ideal wäre ein Ultraschallreiniger, der für Platinen ausgelegt ist. Leider sind die in solchen Größen immer noch recht teuer.
@snowysnowdon5584
Жыл бұрын
Love your streams Jan keep it up 😂
@ricardog2165
Жыл бұрын
Wait - did you give the VIC II from your machine to fix someone else's? Did you have them in stock? 🤔
@JanBeta
Жыл бұрын
The C64 is mine to keep actually. I'm slowly running out of replacement VIC-IIs, I'm going to have to look for more spares sometime soon.
@gertsy2000
Жыл бұрын
Nice.
@JanBeta
Жыл бұрын
Thanks! Super happy with how it turned out. Definitely worth the effort in my opinion! :)
@douro20
Жыл бұрын
How about, since you live in Germany, Ballistol for the keyboard springs?
@JanBeta
Жыл бұрын
Yes, that would work fine, too!
@gregwesson8815
Жыл бұрын
Having used a donor VIC, it'll need a replacement VIC or Kawari, yes?
@JanBeta
Жыл бұрын
Yes, my test C64 is going to need a new VIC of some description. I’m going to leave the working one in the rescued Commodore for now because it is the nicer one by far. :)
@knuffte6446
Жыл бұрын
HAHA Kontakte mit einem Radiergummi von Gut & Günstig sauber machen - da sagt die Marke schon wie es geht! 🙂
@JanBeta
Жыл бұрын
Geht auch gut mit anderen Fabrikaten. ;)
@StRoRo
Жыл бұрын
Yes. C64 repairs. I've not seen a new one anywhere cos people think we are tired of them. I am not one of those people.
@JanBeta
Жыл бұрын
There's no such thing as being tired of C64 repairs for me! :D
@JVHShack
Жыл бұрын
I'm unsure if it's just on my end, but I can hear sound out of only one side throughout the entire video.
@dennisp.2147
Жыл бұрын
I can hear both sides.
@JanBeta
Жыл бұрын
It's okay on my end, probably a problem with your playback device. Or maybe KZitem acts up in funny ways again (which it does occasionally).
@grantfryer1
Жыл бұрын
For rusty metal parts use evaporust. I swear by the stuff, it's reusable and non toxic.
@JanBeta
Жыл бұрын
Ah, yes, I've seen Adam Savage use that stuff. I don't know if it's available here in Germany but I'm going to look around a bit! Thanks!
@SergeantMajorH
Жыл бұрын
Is this the same one from a year ago or a different one? Oh, a barn find, or basement find.
@JanBeta
Жыл бұрын
I didn't touch this one before I made the video. It was in the flooded basement that I restored several systems from previously but I kind of forgot about it until now and it was just sitting here in a box for around two years.
@ventrue6516
Жыл бұрын
I got some idea for your next video. You can show some "Eastern" computers from 1980's (Czechoslovakian) :)
@JanBeta
Жыл бұрын
I wish I could get my hands on one of those!
@casualcomputing
Жыл бұрын
Is it only I who spots the leg bent out of place on the VIC chip @ 27:34?
@JanBeta
Жыл бұрын
Chances are that I missed that. Several people have pointed that out in the comments. Maybe the VIC-II is fine after all!
@rosariodagosto6484
Жыл бұрын
Hi JAN BETO LONG TIME SINCE IVE SEEN C 63
@KrautRockt
Жыл бұрын
eine frage an alle fans: ich hatte für den 64er...ca. 1991 ein modul mit basic erweiterung, was graphik und besonderes (!!) sounds erleichterte in basic zu programmieren. leider muß das ein seltenes modul gewesen sei, habs bis heute nicht mehr gesehenn...war grau als farbe...und war ca. 50 mark teuer (?!) ..hat jemand n tipp?..lg und alles gute euch..und ne super zeit!! euer krautrockt!er🙂
@steveoerkel735
Жыл бұрын
Kann es sein, das du aus Deutschland bist? Und Englisch für ein breiteres Publikum gewählt hast? 😅 Wobei Schweiz und Österreich auch im Bereich des Möglichen liegen... Nice work btw...
@Jkauppa
Жыл бұрын
so why the keyboards and stuff are not fully film based, enclosed, water proof
@Jkauppa
Жыл бұрын
heating would be dealt with pass-through interface on aluminium metal chassis, even the aluminium being the passive heat sink
@Jkauppa
Жыл бұрын
pcbway is expensive
@Jkauppa
Жыл бұрын
touch pressure screen for everything, ie, three states, not touching, touching and pressed
@JanBeta
Жыл бұрын
Probably a matter of production cost. These home computer systems were all built to be as inexpensive to produce as possible back in the day. It's quite amazing that the Commodore machines have halfway proper keyboards at all I guess (compared to some other manufacturers like the Sinclair rubber & membrane keyboards etc).
@Jkauppa
Жыл бұрын
funny is that such production is much easier to do, cheaper, so they went the more expensive and worse, for some money reasons, someone sold them the worse solution, against true reason@@JanBeta
@2009numan
Жыл бұрын
I couldn't see any reason that it shouldn't work as it wasn't connected to power when it got wet
@8BitNaptime
Жыл бұрын
Dude, imagine all the crud and crap and dissolved minerals in the floodwater.
@2009numan
Жыл бұрын
@@8BitNaptime no what I meant is once it was cleaned not just to power it on as it was
@elektroolli5984
7 ай бұрын
was für ein spiel war das am schluss?
@JanBeta
7 ай бұрын
Das ist "The Bear Essentials" von Pond Software. Sehr empfehlenswertes Spiel von vor ein paar Jahren. Mehr Infos hier: pondsoft.uk/bear.html
@danielyazbek9910
Жыл бұрын
You need a ultrasonic cleaner! Make your life easer
@JanBeta
Жыл бұрын
Yes, I've been looking into that for a while now. I think I'm eventually going to get one (although the larger sized ones I would need are quite expensive unfortunately).
@danielyazbek9910
Жыл бұрын
@@JanBeta thanks for answer, unfortunately its expensive, but you deserve! Your passion to revive those machines, someone sponsor jan beta with a ultrasonic!!!!!!!!
@daspec
11 ай бұрын
No retrobright? 🙄
@JanBeta
11 ай бұрын
Why would I redrobright it when it isn't yellowed? :D
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