How do you access this? Says it’s a private video.
@BathoUglyMug
16 сағат бұрын
All sorted, thanks.
@richsmith7200
Жыл бұрын
As an American, our country would be expected to pour whatever resources we have into defending Australia or there'd be a major upheaval in this country. Australia has stood by us,and by God we'll stand by them.
@CJArnold-hq3ey
Жыл бұрын
Cheers from South Oz , not many of the young generation would even know in either country ....sad .
@shanesanders5074
Жыл бұрын
Which is the only reason we would be a target really.. so.. To think China will attack to conquer, only for the resources is very far fetched.. unless we take americas lead and try starve them of resources and surround them with bases and nukes etc... oh shit.. that's exactly what is happening... if America was in China's shoes.. we would have been at war long ago.. if China put a base and nukes in south America for example.. it would be on.. thank God China is not so standover and reactionary eh...
@two02ful
Жыл бұрын
Boy don’t you know your country are technically bankrupt! US$31.4 trillions. and escalating with speed. America are now surviving on borrow time. Janet Yellen with begging bowls in both her hands awaiting in line to beg China to buy it bond otherwise America can’t print new money! Please update yourself with news other then those media in your country!
@troystaunton254
Жыл бұрын
Also there’s treaties in place. Like the exact reason australia (with the largest uranium supply on earth) doesn’t have the largest nuclear capability is because we signed a deal with America. In exchange for not making bombs America would treat an attack on Sydney as an attack on New York. That was the exact emphasis back in the 60s.
@DoMyHomework_
Жыл бұрын
Our own fucking politicians won't even stand by us. They'll just hold the door open for Xi whilst wearing a maid dress.
@grimreapers
Жыл бұрын
Just read through comments. You guys want a re-run with: - Aus having 200 x AGM-158C LRASM anti-ship missiles - EDIT: Hobarts having 40 x SM-2 and 32 x ESSMs - Hornets carrying AIM-120D - Some other bits Will do this when the proper North Australia terrain arrives in game.
@Evocati-Augusti
Жыл бұрын
2022 :Royal Australian Air Force 200 LRASM missiles ordered.
@Evocati-Augusti
Жыл бұрын
yes
@marinuslubbe3993
Жыл бұрын
Reversing the ridiculous nerf you guys have done to the YJ-21's would be a good idea also. Seriously you've made the most potent anti-ship weapon completely useless.
@retard223
Жыл бұрын
The f-18 is Boeing, f-35 is a Lockheed project
@tinto278
Жыл бұрын
Dude you are sponsored by China like all youtubers. Where is your merch made? 🤣🤣
@berwandekker2559
Жыл бұрын
If anyone thinks that Australia's navy seems very underequipped... it is, our defence aquisition process is pretty bad. Keep in mind Hobarts are supposed to be 'air warfare' destroyers but only have 48 VLS cells, yet somehow it beat the Arleigh Burke (98 VLS cells, plus larger range, more CIWS, 1 extra helicoper) in the aquisition process. Oh, and the Hobarts ended up more expensive than Arleigh Burkes. Sounds legit
@rileybodnar8545
Жыл бұрын
Australia tries to keep good relations with china even if the US doesn't like that.
@wastool
Жыл бұрын
And that's how government works. 😁
@404dne
Жыл бұрын
@@wastool ye,lots of meaningless and over priced weapons and spending
@jamesmckenzie9551
Жыл бұрын
Because they are quad cells, so when correctly loaded they have 4 times as many missiles. The Hobart class are actually very decent, and the USN highly rates them in direct wargames as being on par with the Arleigh 2’s but not quite the 3’s.
@berwandekker2559
Жыл бұрын
@James McKenzie to some extent, yes. But only ESSMs can be quad packed, the problem is that ESSMs are (relatively) short range. When you compare an Arleigh Burke with a Hobart the extra SM2s and SM6s give it a huge advantage against saturation attacks because they can begin missile defense from much further ranges. The Hobart's aren't necessarily 'bad' ships, they have decent capability with ESSM but simply aren't worth the massive A$3 billion price tag each. Whereas the Arleigh Burke B2, which was a part of the original tender, likely would have been cheaper, and give greater capability.
@NVSawsomeness
Жыл бұрын
As a resident of Darwin I can confirm during operation pitch black I saw them landing even 2 abreast on the same runway and their ability to get absurd amounts of aircraft on and off the ground in an incredibly short amount of time was impressive.
@Unknownstudios_
Жыл бұрын
Just wait for this years big exercise, they're planning on getting 2com to storm the beaches of Darwin city with 1 brigade operating in and around the cbd, larrakeyah, raaf darwin and robo trying to fend them off, not sure on how the brig plans on doing this but theyve put forwards permits and plans to the local gov to do it in august for pred run
@chewyplayzyt4954
6 ай бұрын
Also as a resident of Darwin, I was there too they went right over me when I went I got a video if you want it😂
@squiremc
Жыл бұрын
I was in Darwin in 2006 during Operation Pitchblack which ran during the first week of August in that year. The exercise was great entertainment with aircraft, boats and military of all kinds in the area making many loud sounds and firing tracers up into the night. My friends and I had built a fire on Larrakeyah beach one night and were having a picnic when an amphibious armoured vehicle could be heard approaching from the sea. We kept an eye out and the AAC with a contingent of soldiers armed to the teeth came out of the dark ocean and straight up the beach towards us. We all stood up and cheered them on as they passed between us. Very exciting. After they had disappeared into the dark we sat back down and discovered they had kicked sand into our dinner. I phoned the military contact number and asked ( humorously ) if they would compensate us for the meal and learned that a military reconnaissance aircraft had spotted our fire on the beach and reported it to the landing party as a datum for their landing point. War is hell.
@hades0572
Жыл бұрын
Coolest story ever... but the real question remains, did they compensate you? Buy you maccas or anything?
@Smokeyr67
Жыл бұрын
And this one time, at band camp
@beayn
Жыл бұрын
@@Smokeyr67 I'm sure nobody had any flutes.
@stuartgarfatth1448
Жыл бұрын
Mate, that's as funny as all shit!🤣.
@squiremc
Жыл бұрын
@@stuartgarfatth1448 Back in those days Darwin was a wild, wild place. Cheers!
@Sardaukar240888
Жыл бұрын
As an Australian, I feel so valued and represented haha. Thanks Cap 😊
@grimreapers
Жыл бұрын
This is important to one's self esteem.
@SmithandWesson22A
Жыл бұрын
Oi oi oi
@getahanddown
Жыл бұрын
As a Kiwi I'm basking in the one and only time our military has something higher spec than another military lol
@blakeparry1983
Жыл бұрын
@@getahanddown you guys only have 2 Anzacs haha
@cuda260
Жыл бұрын
@@getahanddown how so? an Australian ANZAC frigate has 32 ESSM (quadpacked), the NZ version has 20 Sea Ceptor which are more less the same sort of missile. Also the NZ versions are missing 'minor' things like phased array radars and anti-ship missiles. NZ runs its 'defence' force on a shoestring and it shows everywhere. Even your couple of Poseidon P8s are stripped of capabilities versus the Australian version.
@budgieboi8979
Жыл бұрын
As a valued viewer from Australia, I am very excited!
@rodneypayne4827
Жыл бұрын
Our forces have done it a number of times with Legacy Hornets and F111s as well as the old ships against a full US Navy Carrier group in wargames. I mean even an old Oberon class sub even killed the carrier without detection. Fellow Aussie.
@SmithandWesson22A
Жыл бұрын
@@rodneypayne4827Classic Hornets. Seppos call them Legacy
@markf3229
Жыл бұрын
About what?
@budgieboi8979
Жыл бұрын
@@markf3229 the video
@andrewsmall6834
Жыл бұрын
As a Darwin resident this is extremely exciting and I thank you Cap and all the team for all your hard work. I will however say that RAAF base Darwin can house a crap load more than 20 jets, in exercise pitch black last year there were 100 different jets stationed there at the time and at least some of the jets in this scenario would've been carrying JASM or LRASM. The ESSM is a quad packed missile, if there are 16 SM2's then there would be 128 ESSM's.
@TheCaptainbeefylog
Жыл бұрын
These points are all good. Also worth a mention is the point there are dozens of "bush" strips across the north and west. Most would take 24-48 hours to turn into a forward airbase.
@seandraper2848
Жыл бұрын
Darwin would also have NASAMS3 coverage, which would definitely help the ships in the harbour.
@5Andysalive
Жыл бұрын
i guess it dpends very much on how surprising the attack is. One would think Australia and others would notice a massive chinese fleet being underway. But he always has to roleplay and logic twist these scenarios a bit. And he obviously always explains that.
@grimreapers
Жыл бұрын
Roger thanks for feedback.
@w1serepeater972
Жыл бұрын
The thing is if they're all stationed in Darwin then the facility will be subjected to the first strike as well, potentially resulting in even lower combat effectiveness.
@goaway7346
Жыл бұрын
Australia has submarines which have done particularly well against a US carrier fleet.
@brodieyoutubestuff
Жыл бұрын
Indeed, our subs have done alright jobs so far
@kinchegayowie6167
Жыл бұрын
@Rodney 1984 depends who is in acquisition and who knows who and where , follow the money. Turdbulls son was all over the French sub debacle, nice little pocket filler as is all WHO meetings, G7's G8's all money laundering activities
@shaunphillips6160
Жыл бұрын
All 2 of them that we can crew and that actually work haha
@TankedMush
Жыл бұрын
Yes they've done well in stealth roles in war games in and around pacific Islands, but unless they were docked in Darwin they'd struggle to be here for the fight.
@madevilgenius7547
Жыл бұрын
@@TankedMush I think the pen would be in WA ( Perth ) but the patrol vector would be North Australian waters logically but the subs currently are meant to interdict and intel gather not all out attack I think but with the new ones coming i think they will more dangerous to Chinas fleet which is why china kicked up a stink about it
@reubenmorison8149
Жыл бұрын
The Australian Army also have a large base in Darwin, with around 20 Tiger Helicopters. From 2025, there will be 6 US B-52s based at Tindal. I believe around the same time the USMC deployment to Darwin will become year round.
@zhukie
Жыл бұрын
It has. They're at Robertson Barracks all year round now.
@leutmatho9456
Жыл бұрын
Forgot to add the p-8 Poseidon which can also do surface warfare
@grimreapers
Жыл бұрын
thx
@alanbrooke144
Жыл бұрын
@@grimreapers and no RAN submarines.
@brianwright9514
Жыл бұрын
@@alanbrooke144 too bad too, because the submarines would probably be the one thing close enough to attack a potentially hostile fleet... They'd be shadowing the fleet just waiting for an attack to launch. Torpedo's would be in the water while the ASM's were still being launched.
@CombatIneffective
Жыл бұрын
@@alanbrooke144 DCS can't run submarines well.
@joshuaanderson4090
Жыл бұрын
@@brianwright9514 would they though? China has asw capability. If we’re including subs they’d have their own along as well as asw helos.
@ecbst6
Жыл бұрын
No chance, the drop bears would get 'em all.
@bearcatracing007
Жыл бұрын
Yep, doubt they know to put Vegemite behind their ears to avoid them!
@MIck-M
Жыл бұрын
In WW2 they used drovers to move all the drop bears north into Queensland and formed what would later be called 'The Brisbane Line' which formed an impenetrable barrier against Japanese invasion. Later the government had to hide their existence because they were eating more than half the tourists. Remember folks - Look Up AND lIVE 🐨
@gtpumps
Жыл бұрын
You forgot the 12 X P8A Poseidon maritime patrol aircraft which are armed with Harpoon Anti-ship missiles.
@grimreapers
Жыл бұрын
thx
@gtpumps
Жыл бұрын
@@grimreapers also Australian Army has just taken delivery of seven eNASAMS systems (six missile eNASAMS Mark II Canister Launcher) armed with AIM-120C-7 missiles. Also Collins class submarines have Sub Harpoon missiles. The P8A is currently being certified for the AGM-158C LRASM (I believe it can carry 4 missiles), two more P8A will be delivered 2024/25 so total 14 aircraft.
@gibbo_303
Жыл бұрын
@@gtpumps as far as i have read we are getting 1 battery this month and another later this year, they wont be operationally capable till 2026 and they say we are getting NASAMs 3, one ADF page says we have Mk.2 canisters and are training with them
@chugs1984
Жыл бұрын
If the ADF was aware and had birds on CAP then the RAN would have at least one if not two Collins subs shadowing the Chinese fleet. Frankly that fleet would be halfway to the bottom about 10mins after the first salvo was launched. I remember in 1992 being told our subs had taken pictures of the screws on a USN carrier during exercises with the yanks. The idea the Chinese have ASW that could stop boats that have snuck deep into Chinese waters (60 Minutes interview alluded to such plays) and had taken photos of Chinese installations is a joke. Now of course outside the SM-3s and ESSMs we would definitely have lost a few shops and assets. But it would be a hands down massive loss for the Chinese. Hell against a target 100km off their own coast they'd suffer similar losses with an opponent support 1980s tech. Hence why they haven't tried it on
@CombatIneffective
Жыл бұрын
Yes they have the P-8. But the Chinese fleet has long range SAMs and and J-15s. Until this battle has played out. Those P-8s won't want to be near this force. After? The Fujian is in deep trouble.
@xenaguy01
Жыл бұрын
Whoever it was that said Australia lost the battle, but may have won the war, is correct. The RAN is completely gone, but so is the PLN's ability to defend themselves. They are wide open to a strike from the RAAF.
@dsong2006
Жыл бұрын
that's not true at all, there are still hundreds of HHQ-9s and HQ-10s left in those Type 055s and 052Ds
@tomtech1537
Жыл бұрын
Not even just the RAAF... The return route is not exactly great for CN, they haven't been making friends with their neighbours. I find it hard to believe (especially in light of the recent international support for UA) that one of the return passage countries wouldn't "chip in" Indonesia, Malaysia, Singapore, Phillipines, Vietnam?, Japan, Regan, Nimitz... While also cratering their economy while it's teetering. I can't imagine a realistic scenario where China would try this... even as a feint it takes far too many resources away (and even if they didn't get mission killed) from their primary goals (Taiwan, South China Sea, Strait of Malacca). The RAN (outside of subs) doesn't have the capability to seriously threaten China militarily in the areas that are relevant to China, all they need to do is prevent forward basing of RAAF in Port Moresby, Borneo or perhaps Manilla? to basically neuter the Operational/Tactical capability of Australian military, which they can do with other less disposable assets than their precious fleet of J15 and PL15 missiles (it seems probable that their entire national stockpile of PL15 was spent in this one mission). TL;DR - Expend basically all of your offensive power to mission kill a military which posses no realistic threat to you, while making all of your neighbours think you're coming for them next and get yourself embargoed and/or entire bluewater navy destroyed by the world/US while your domestic situation is on the brink. Would make the Russian-Ukraine conflict look favourable.
@JohnGodden-j1m
Жыл бұрын
Australia’s Collins Class submarines would present a serious danger to a Chinese fleet in our waters - being similarly equipped as a Virginia class with the same combat system. You’ve only given our Hobart Destroyers a 32 VLS when in fact they have a 48 VLS - which doubles the amount of SM2s In magazine. Also we now have LRASM capability not listed here.
@brenfitzy111
Жыл бұрын
That would be the biggest game changer here. The Chinese fleet would've been stalked for weeks leading up to this. I also think the p-8 poseidons would come into play a little after the initial attack and could go after the Chinese.
@seppomuppit
Жыл бұрын
Yes I see a Collins Class parked up out in Darwin Harbour all the time.
@mitchelltaylor-dk4kq
Жыл бұрын
4 subs available at any time plus the area they cover doubt it l. Plus add the fact China would be able to send 20 subs and more ships that were in this sim
@Caleb-lbj
Жыл бұрын
No 😂
@hairy-dairyman
Жыл бұрын
@mitchell taylor for this skirmish we managed to concentrate the RAN and RAAF. Why not two subs
@JDX-
Жыл бұрын
We’ll also have 6 x B52’s based in Tindal by then as well
@DespaceMan
Жыл бұрын
Not including the others already in the air :) there is a whole lot more you don't know.
@JDX-
Жыл бұрын
@@DespaceMan oh I know. I was working in darwin during the joint games last year If they’ve managed to preposition the RAN there, then they’d sure have time to reposition the F35’s and friendly F22’s to the darwin airport rather than Tindal.
@jloiben12
Жыл бұрын
B52s. The cockroaches of aircraft
@vector8877
Жыл бұрын
Yeah Australia does indeed have LRASMs for their F18s, aswell as JASSMs. Might also be cool to equip the Hornets with ASRAAMs, as the Australians use it extensively alongside the 9X. Another small note, I'm not sure on which ship, but Australia does operate SM 6.
@thomasb5600
Жыл бұрын
They have recently confirmed purchase of LRASM not sure of numbers. These can also be put on P8-a and F35. They could also do Rapid Dragon if needed. I recently read they tested 9x and AIM-120 as ground base NASAMS
@hades0572
Жыл бұрын
@@thomasb5600 200
@thomasb5600
Жыл бұрын
@@hades0572 not sure, a year or two ago there was talk of 200 purchase. But recently I read about a purchase of about 4 missile types across 3 company’s, I only remember a cash value talked about.
@CombatIneffective
Жыл бұрын
According to my research they haven't taken delivery of the LRASM yet. I also did not see any data on the SM-6 being operated by the Australians.
@hades0572
Жыл бұрын
@@CombatIneffective The purchase of Standard Missile 6 Block I (SM-6) and Standard Missile 2 Block IIIC (SM-2 IIIC) missiles is currently included in Australia's procurement roadmap and will improve their ability to operate alongside U.S. and Allied naval forces against the full spectrum of naval threats. Also, the LARSMs (or part thereof) got delivered about 3 days ago.
@patrickelliott-brennan8960
Жыл бұрын
China could land two divisions of marines in Darwin and....nothing. They're still 3400kms from Brisbane and 3800ksm from Perth! LOL Not sure where they'd get the fuel to drive that far as Australians would burn EVERYTHING as they went. They could walk but if they marched at 5km/h nonstop for 10 hours a day they'd only take 71 days to get to Perth...soooooooooooooo...not overly concerned ;)
@Ironwulf2000
Жыл бұрын
They have to get there first. How do you suggest they do so without crossing the airspace of several countries not particularly allied to them? They could come by ship, but would be seen by OTHR (Jindalee), and the subs (not in this video) would have a field day.
@patrickelliott-brennan8960
Жыл бұрын
@@Ironwulf2000 I agree. Australia doesn't have a huge population nor a huge army or navy but it's a bloody long way away from any country that has large enough armed forces with the capacity to transport troops here. Even after getting here...then what? It's a huge landmass where a defender can destroy infrastructure forcing an attacker to carry everything both getting here and after they get here...and that's brutal, expensive and hard to defend proposition. Love the GR videos though. Always great fun and interesting.
@JDX-
Жыл бұрын
Simple. Via pre positioned containers in the darwin port they own. Easy way to get supplies in.
@matthewsofield5044
Жыл бұрын
Not to mention the USMC rotation force based in Darwin, would definitely cause some trouble
@MacGuffin1
Жыл бұрын
@@patrickelliott-brennan8960 Yes, jungle, desert and distances that would make Afghanistan or Veitnam look like a kids birthday party to would-be occupuiers
@Bungo71
Жыл бұрын
For future reference, RAAF is "R double-A F", RAN is R A N. 🙂
@IC3XR
Жыл бұрын
Australia would’ve been a lot more potent if you included all their assets
@Nathan-ry3yu
Жыл бұрын
It wouldn't be much more it could contribute to it. Not with what the government currently only have planed Australia to not build more destroyers. And refuse to buy long range bombers and no aircraft carrier. Australia in a war like this will be over fast for Australia. And it will be Australian government and defence fault for taking to long to make decisions and not arming with enough eqwipment and right gear. Just want to hope uncle Sam save Australia once again or we are fucked. Australia could be used as collateral damage too. If the US could save American lives by fighting on another front they will. Australia was warned by experts to arm up. If our government don't do it and makes idiotic decisions it will doom us
@IC3XR
Жыл бұрын
@@Nathan-ry3yu Way to vaguely generalise a series of complex topics, you moron💀 P.S: Australia actually has 2 aircraft carriers, and US bombers on permanently stationed in Darwin
@mrprodigy7143
Жыл бұрын
With that logic, every single one of the simulations, he’s done, would’ve turned out completely different if every single country was giving access to all of their assets if you seriously think that American, Russian or Chinese carrier group would ever go ahead to head in a fight, you got another thing coming this only happens because the Americans Russians in Chinese never have all of their assets. If you need all of your assets to be a good Warfighter, you’re not really a good Warfighter.
@bearcatracing007
Жыл бұрын
Yeah nar mate, got no chance. We have updated our Emus and crocodiles and the bogans are up to Mk3 upgrades as well.
@grimreapers
Жыл бұрын
Maintenance is $$$ for those units.
@SmithandWesson22A
Жыл бұрын
Bogans throwing empty stubbies, and smashing everyone with thongs😂
@bloodyslatts1452
Жыл бұрын
I understand their having serious developmental problems with the Emus. I doubt they'll ever get off the ground.
@MacGuffin1
Жыл бұрын
And we've got Eshays on backorder...
@MacGuffin1
Жыл бұрын
@@SmithandWesson22A Welcome to Sunnyvale
@swrpggm
Жыл бұрын
In real life the F-35s would be refueled and rearmed right off the runway what we call Concurrent Servicing Operations or Hot Pits. The engines would never shut off and a quick turn around of 10-15 minutes and they are back in action.
@LordOden1
Жыл бұрын
I’m sure New Zealand will send their one and only frigate and their microlites in to fight for Australia 🤣
@SanctuaryLife
Жыл бұрын
Send us some more Whittakers
@catprog
Жыл бұрын
If Australia falls what happens to NZ.
@jamesg9468
Жыл бұрын
New Zealand's navy is in a sorry state. It is literally 2 frigates, 2 OPVs and 5 support vessels. That's it. 9 ship navy. Many will say "oh it's a small country", but look at Denmark which is similar in population, and their fleet is 4 times the size of NZ. It's pretty sad as the Royal New Zealand Navy wasn't always like this, in the past it carried more than its weight, but when you elect a Labour government your defence stance becomes reliant on other countries. I hope they have a lot of faith in their friends. The future of NZ is NOT for New Zealanders to determine.
@catprog
Жыл бұрын
@@jamesg9468 every dollar spent on defence is a dollar not spent on roads or hospitals. You need to balance these competing factors.
@gctzx
Жыл бұрын
Now for part 2, run the F-35 counter attack on the Chinese fleet.
@kurtreichenbach8927
Жыл бұрын
When i was on B-2's deployed to Guam we had a mini deployment to Darwin was around 2007ish time frame.
@DrDezaro
Жыл бұрын
In this scenario Fighters out of Townsville & Williamtown would have been mobilised and parked on station in the area with aerial refuelers … so they could have half or more of the RAAF Fighters on Station ready to respond.
@gibbo_303
Жыл бұрын
there are no fighters based at Townsville, atleast not permanently, the growlers would probably be stationed at Townsville and most the Williamtown F-35s and Amberly F/A-18s would be stationed at Tindal or Darwin
@CombatIneffective
Жыл бұрын
Cap had pretty much all of the RAAF in this based on current inventory numbers.
@TheCaptainbeefylog
Жыл бұрын
At one point we had carriers and cruisers. Now we've got some figs and tin cans. :( This was never going to end well for the RAN. RAAF (pronounced raff) have some truly excellent pilots. Especially when it comes to low-level insertion, which is a cultural hold-over from F-111s training to carry a gravity bomb to Jakarta. In a war between Oz and China, the PLAAF and PLAN would do what they wanted pretty much, but the PLA would have a hard time of things.
@vlhc4642
Жыл бұрын
China builds 20 thousand drones a day right now just for consumer and commercial sales, DJI alone builds half of that or 10k drones a day, and just a tiny fraction of DJI's sales is enough to carry the war for both NATO and Russia. Right now PLA have AFVs carrying 48 swarming drones each, AFVs carrying 24x 50km range anti-tank drones each, MLRS able to fire 16x large drones each, they're exporting robotic tanks that in turn carry dozens of smaller swarming drones, even infantry have backpacks that can launch 8x swarming drones. If PLA lands in Australia, the war you'll fight will be very different from the war you have in mind.
@bamafan-in-OZ
Жыл бұрын
@@vlhc4642 your forgetting that the next major city from Darwin is a lot further than 50km, all you have to do is look at the plans during WW2 to give up Darwin should the Japanese mount a full invasion and fall back further south then bomb the invasion forces from remote airfields.
@vlhc4642
Жыл бұрын
@@bamafan-in-OZ Or they could get to the next major city the same way they got from China to Darwin, which was not driving. Also I think you'll find WW2 analogies breaks down rapidly in the age of UCAVs with 36 hour endurance.
@bamafan-in-OZ
Жыл бұрын
@@vlhc4642 you also forget that DJI will not allow their drones to be used for military use but I'm sure a lot of knock offs would be made. Australias biggest advantage is its size as it just needs to delay their progress until it's allies are mobilized as when you look at the amount of weapons and the size of our military we all know we couldn't really go it alone against China
@vlhc4642
Жыл бұрын
@@bamafan-in-OZ DJI is literally 80% of all drones used in Ukraine, by both sides, and if you think a Chinese drone company won't build drones for PLA you really need to get out more. Fun fact, PLA don't use Mavics to drop grenades, PLA uses Mavics as the grenade because they have so many. Also, if PLA is landing in Australia that means all your allies are either dead or abandoned you....
@CJ-xk7vs
Жыл бұрын
As an Australian i can confirm we in fact do have Patriot missiles, ive seen the tests
@john-paulfarrell2562
Жыл бұрын
We absolutely do not own or operate Patriot missile systems in the ADF
@CJ-xk7vs
Жыл бұрын
@@john-paulfarrell2562 So the Patriot missile test while the chinese spy was off the east coast was in my imagination then
@Smokeyr67
Жыл бұрын
@@john-paulfarrell2562 CJ may have seen a US Patriot unit demonstrating their kit in Talisman Sabre 2021(?) at SWBTA. Either that or CJ's full of shit, as most ex-servicemen and women are after a couple of fermented beverages :)
@john-paulfarrell2562
Жыл бұрын
@@Smokeyr67 yeah I’d wager that’s what is was. Thats not to say we won’t get them in the future under our Integrated air and missile defence program, but we definitely don’t have them now.
@Smokeyr67
Жыл бұрын
@Rodney 1984 It's a case of balancing costs and needs - we just can't afford it without raising taxes, and our Politicians need to keep promising tax cuts to maintain their jobs :)
@therealbmaphill
Жыл бұрын
I am impressed you did something like my suggestion :) It was a great battle too and probably accurate. Except for deconfliction and underwater assets. Thanks Mate Oi
@grimreapers
Жыл бұрын
:)
@Jeffrey.1978
Жыл бұрын
@Grim Reapers - Another great video Cap! I can see you are always working around the things DCS is lacking the best you can to make it the best scenario possible.
@grimreapers
Жыл бұрын
Do the best we can with what we have.
@Wolfe351
Жыл бұрын
also you said ALL the RAN is there.....atleast 2 Collins class SSG's will be there and they are extremely quiet and could sink the Carrier and main escorts the moment hostilities start.
@Angus1995
Жыл бұрын
Aren’t the Collins renowned for being horrifically bad
@Wolfe351
Жыл бұрын
@@Angus1995 thats actually a media beat up that started when there was project delays during the testing of the first sub, they have pretty much the same weapons systems,sonar etc as a Virginia class SSN and are extremely quiet. During RIMPAC a number of times they have gotten close enuff to a USN carrier to sink it without being detected
@grimreapers
Жыл бұрын
Sry, forgot to say, no subs modelled in game yet.
@Wolfe351
Жыл бұрын
@@grimreapers we would need an add on like combined arms but for surface and subsurface warfare for proper naval battles, kind of like the user interface in cold waters
@gaxanuziagain1748
Жыл бұрын
@@Angus1995 When the Collins first entered service, they weren't particularly good (but most completely new weapons systems do have teething problems), but after a relatively short period they actually became some of the best "Diesel" boats in the world, regularly getting "kill shots" on US carriers in wargames and getting away undetected.
@DimitriPahis-ug7ef
Жыл бұрын
I was in Darwin in 2006 during Operation Pitchblack which ran during the first week of August in that year. The exercise was great entertainment with aircraft, boats and military of all kinds in the area making many loud sounds and firing tracers up into the night.
@pierrelahaie6359
Жыл бұрын
A "simple" wargame, shows that the balance of power in the Pacific is really thin. BTW I like them all, keep 'em coming!
@YT-mn4eq
Жыл бұрын
Would DCS eventually get a global map? Would open up so many mission possibilities.
@grimreapers
Жыл бұрын
Neg, it would be too hard to model for a full fidelity combat sim.
@Editzify
Жыл бұрын
@@grimreapers im pretty sure they have talked about it i think it could be something similar to microsoft flight sim but yeah
@ItsMrAssholeToYou
Жыл бұрын
In theory, they could compile a global map database, but who knows how long that would take. Plus, modeling changes over time (to allow choice of war eras) would make it next to impossible. And even then, modeling anything more than a single theater in a particular game instance would exceed the computational power of even a high-end system. Now, it they rewrote the code to allow distributed processing...
@jcadlols
Жыл бұрын
I feel like you could have something super basic - and download properly modelled regions.
@gibbo_303
Жыл бұрын
there are rumors of this being considered but if they do it will be atleast 10 years before development for it even starts
@berwandekker2559
Жыл бұрын
Hi Cap, I just realised that you have the Hobarts with a total of 48 missiles, but would they not be able to quad pack ESSM? Therefore they should realistically be able to carry 16 SM2 and 128 ESSM
@winelive5500
Жыл бұрын
Yes the numbers don’t add up. 48 VLS cells per ship, and ESSM are quad packed
@ethanc1288
Жыл бұрын
Your right ESSM are quad packed in MK-41 VLS cells. Personally think the Hobarts would have 32 SM-2 missiles and 64 ESSM's.
@grimreapers
Жыл бұрын
My Aussie friend told me 32 ESSM and 16 SM-6, but he could be wrong. If so, that would change the battle hugely.
@SmithandWesson22A
Жыл бұрын
@@grimreapersyou have many Aussie friends. You just don't know all of us
@georud54
Жыл бұрын
@@grimreapers If it's the same friend who told you we're putting F-35Bs on our LHDs then I don't think they like you very much ;-)
@marcuspacheco3815
Жыл бұрын
To be fair. If this went down the 7th would make short work of what was left before they could go back and re-arm. Reapers should do a follow up of after a failed a attack on NZ, AU, etc what would it look like if the 7th caught them up at sea with what they have left.
@patrickelliott-brennan8960
Жыл бұрын
Oooooooooooooh, excellent idea. I agree. It would be pointless coming all that way to try to wipe out the RAAF and RAN in Darwin. Then what? Sail back to China and get attacked all the way and then sunk...
@fryaduck
Жыл бұрын
I'm sure the SSN Key West plus a couple of Collins class subs would get involved. Plus we would have warned or requested assistance from the 7th who would be probably situated north of the Chinese fleet. Soon as the Chinese launched they would pile on.
@marcuspacheco3815
Жыл бұрын
@@fryaduck oh yeah dude for sure but I'm just saying like worst case scenario you got put in a position where you had no choice but to get in this exact fight. They never get to leave. Like essentially the next day China no longer has a Navy because they're out of missiles their severely reduced numbers of planes and they have to confront the seventh fleet as they try to sail away. That's assuming Korea the Philippines Japan New Zealand etc don't jump them immediately and that the United States isn't already operating in that area which they usually are. Like worst case scenario you get put in this terrible position the next day that whole fleets gone. Erased from existence, a distant memory.
@Nathan-ry3yu
Жыл бұрын
No guarantees the US will involve
@collinwood6573
Жыл бұрын
@@Nathan-ry3yu any American politician who decided to not help Australia in this situation would instantly become one of the most hated politicians in American history. I highly doubt that any of them would just suicide their careers like that.
@saadlasker1741
Жыл бұрын
amazing vid! but Australia has a huge early warning radar setup( over the horizon), so by the time the Chinese get into firing range it would be about 45-50 hours in prior warning(at top speed, unlikely due to fuel consumption but feasible) + human and signals intel+ satellites (Chinese could choose cloudy days), in that time at least 20- 40 or even more us aircraft could be flown to aus via arial tankers
@mosesgoldbergshekelstien1520
Жыл бұрын
The Chinese also have a million mainlanders already living here in australia so wouldn’t be hard for them to do a bit of sabotage or continue bribing our government
@shaunphillips6160
Жыл бұрын
Yeaj we got good surveillance capabilities
@Soundmaster91
Жыл бұрын
I think you missed the start of the video where the Chinese tell the Australians they're coming for an exercise, so this warning system wasn't needed because they told the Aussies they'd be nearby
@thannbanis3639
Жыл бұрын
@@Soundmaster91 i wonder how much of a heads up the early warning radar would give seeing the massive aircraft launches
@Crazyhawke81
Жыл бұрын
the growler as used by the RAAF is fully Anti air capable but has no gun. the gun bay is where the jammers are located
@OG_Mac79
Жыл бұрын
A small detail you missed was that the US Carrier strike group in Japan would notice the Chinese fleet leaving port - which is what would give the Aussies time to respond, and the USN would be shitting bricks. Now the Carrier Reagan is in Japan and the Nimitz last I heard was in deployment near Guam, they would certainly re-route when the Reagan's strike group notices the Chinese carrier leaving their normal operations area. The boys at Subic bay would also be put on alert as well as Guam. During training they would be put on alert and launch tankers and start picket lines. Even Guam itself's long range bombers would be activated and be targeting the Chinese fleet.
@nevyn_karres
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, you cannot surprise someone with a carrier fleet, but this was meant to be all peaceful and just a "we are going to sail past Darwin" scenario.
@OG_Mac79
Жыл бұрын
@@nevyn_karres Even then, they rarely leave their local waters anytime they do it is with all eyes on them and USN not too far behind. China is a and has been a shallow water navy, when I was in the USN they would joke about the Russians trying to sneak their clunkers around us, while our fast attack subs ran torpedo drills on them. IIRC Guam also had sub pens too
@joelhungerford8388
Жыл бұрын
This starts with the Chinese fleet disguising the attack as a military exercise (and informed Australia of this). Of course in this scenario it would not have just been the Australians who would have raised alert status/mobilised in the region
@shaunphillips6160
Жыл бұрын
Don't forget Guam and the phillipines
@shaunphillips6160
Жыл бұрын
And Hawaii RIMPAC
@Apocalypsse
Жыл бұрын
Australia has 200 LRASMs on order, approved in 2020 but a quick search didn't find a delivery date. Also recently approved for the purchase of 200 Tomahawk Block V and 20 Block IV cruise missiles. Our fresh Defense Strategic Review has made the focus on buying long range missile to project power further from the shore. The news reports it as being able to strike targets 1000km away.
@randalljones4370
Жыл бұрын
Glad you added this. I tried to do the same with modified links to non-controversial main-line news sites for verification, and the YT bots seemed to have deleted my post.... so frustrating.
@grimreapers
Жыл бұрын
Yeh, pretty much anything with a link is being auto-deleted these days.
@MrWastedSaint
Жыл бұрын
I'm a Darwin local and I thoroughly enjoyed this. I've never seen a battle sim before which made it extra interesting. Perhaps irrelevant but I feel viewers should be aware that Darwin was heavily bombed during WW2 over more than 60 raids by the Japanese. It's part of our rich history and puts the city's strategic value into context.
@Gravity.357
Жыл бұрын
“Scare them away with harsh language”?! Love it Cap!!
@patrick247two
Жыл бұрын
This simulation has really brought home to me how much Australia needs nuclear powered subs.
@nevyn_karres
Жыл бұрын
I was thinking just nukes. No nuke armed country has ever fought another nuke armed country. Right now Ukraine is questioning giving up all their Soviet nukes.
@Smokeyr67
Жыл бұрын
This "simulation" has really brought home to me just how great a game DCS is, and how poor a simulation it is with people with absolutely no knowledge of modern warfare programming a battle when they in fact have only one qualification - NFI with Bar
@iliketea9122
Жыл бұрын
@@nevyn_karres no thanks, more nukes in the world isn't what we need. Also, even if Ukraine still had the nukes they wouldn't be able to use them since they didn't have the launch codes. Even if they still had them it wouldn't have changed a single thing
@EndlessSummerCancelled
Жыл бұрын
Australia needs nuke missiles
@tomtech1537
Жыл бұрын
@@nevyn_karres old thinking that has just not played out in that way historically... Some examples. - Sino-Russian (USSR, CN) - Yom Kippoor (Israel, USSR) - Afghanistan (USSR, USA) - Korean War (CN, USA) - Vietnam War (USA, USSR) - India Pakistan (IN, Pakistan) - India China (IN, CN)
@Maynardcomau
Жыл бұрын
Has it been mentioned that the Chinese have a multi year lease on the Port of Darwin? Would be a lot cheaper to just buy what they want and ship it from their port in Darwin.
@JDX-
Жыл бұрын
Yes it has
@mosesgoldbergshekelstien1520
Жыл бұрын
Mate the chinese have a lease on half the country XD, all those sailors and airmen dying at sea off the coast of Darwin will be late on their rent payments to their Chinese landlords XD
@Curaissier
2 ай бұрын
Pretty easy to end a lease if the leaser goes to war with you.
@Lee-sti8wrx
Жыл бұрын
Yes, Australia has a fair amount of LRASM and we are not going to using the harpoon anymore. But not sure if we will have the replacement by 2024. We have over 200. It would have made a massive difference. Great video though champ. If the goal was to take out our navy China won because they did. But in terms of the fact Australia were not using their over 200 LRASM missiles it would have been totally different. We did smash their wing units which could have left room for the F35 to go in after with those missiles and take out their navy. Who knows.
@shaunphillips6160
Жыл бұрын
Nah they've all gone to ukraine 😅😅😅
@Lee-sti8wrx
Жыл бұрын
@shaunphillips6160 🤣 yep, my bad.
@John-bb4zm
Жыл бұрын
an echidna is never winning a fight with a dingo. But we dont need to beat the dingo, just commit to being spikey enough to not be worth biting
@paulharrison1469
Жыл бұрын
Many years ago a war game was run involving a super oil tanker (strategic asset) transiting the Timor Sea with a window of opportunity for the attack from a northern neighbour of 72 hours and the task was to figure how many FA-18's would be required to provide a 4-ship CAP continuously for the 72 hours. Also considered was for every aircraft on station, there was 1 inbound, 1 outbound and 1 on the ground. So at any one time, the task required 16 aircraft in the pool to put 1 on station. We guessed at loiter time O/H the vessel of 2 hours, 1 hour to get there and 1 hour to get home. Compute the numbers yourself to arrive at the total number of aircraft to fully protect that national and critical asset.
@katocmd
Жыл бұрын
The big omission is the Collins class subs. I know they aren't in game but they give the Americans trouble in exercises so would definitely be in play in a scenario like this
@dexlab7539
Жыл бұрын
Yes, but so would the Chinese subs too
@hades0572
Жыл бұрын
@@dexlab7539 Chinese subs are copies or direct purchases from Russian/Soviet types. Collins were literally designed to counter these types. Personally I believe Australia's subs would be the only thing keeping China away.
@winelive5500
Жыл бұрын
What about anti-shipping from LRASMs via F35. And anti shipping from the surface ships (Harpoon and Tomahawk). Also subs.
@AzrelSutcliffe
Жыл бұрын
The got approved for 200 or so in 2020 so by 2024 they should have them also they would be using them on the F18s too as well as the F35s so they would been able to use early and late into the fight. @Grim Reapers
@ThePaulv12
Жыл бұрын
It's not the Are-Ay-Ay-eFF - its the effing raff mate or the are-doubleayeff. "Go away you nasty bugger?" More likely, get a dog up ya!
@SmithandWesson22A
Жыл бұрын
Mate, we would use lots of C bombs 😂
@bloodyslatts1452
Жыл бұрын
@@SmithandWesson22A I believe there are international treties banning the use of nthe C-bomb.
@brenfitzy111
Жыл бұрын
Yes, LRASM's have been purchased by the ADF, upto 200 currently
@alexpalmer776
Жыл бұрын
There are over 100 air strips close to Darwin that can allow for refuelling
@Complaints-Department
Жыл бұрын
As a long time Darwin resident, I gotta say this was a treat
@MaxwellAerialPhotography
Жыл бұрын
One criticism for this scenario, is that it seems you didn’t give the RAN ships any Anti-Ship Missiles. Both the Hobart’s and ANZAC’s are equipped with Harpoon, and in future the RAN will be purchasing LRASM and Naval Strike missiles. These ASM’s should at least divert a bit of PLAN attention.
@Nathan-ry3yu
Жыл бұрын
ANZAC frigate now have longer range NSM the harpoons have been retired
@bassett_green
Жыл бұрын
@19:50 "Let's have a look at the Chinese today viewers . . . They have a lot of Chinese guys" Truly insightful
@smeary10
Жыл бұрын
Us Aussies have not only the LRASM but will also the Norwegian Naval Strike Missile as of 2024, which us Aussies actually assisted in development of.
@SirSpigglesworth
Жыл бұрын
We Aussies don't currently have access to the LRASM's right now, however back in 2020 we ordered 200 units to be integrated into the superhornet fleet, estimated to be completed in 2026 (was a quick google search, may be incorrect).
@navyXDF
Жыл бұрын
They have arrived the other day
@anthonyb5279
Жыл бұрын
You forgot the USAF 67th Fighter Squadron from Kadena Japan that is there part time. So thats a bunch of F-15s. that would help a bit.
@grimreapers
Жыл бұрын
Kadena is 2700 miles away from Darwin, I doubt they would make it there in 40 minutes or whatever the mission lasted.
@anthonyb5279
Жыл бұрын
@@grimreapers NO some times they are on detached service at Darwin they have there own part of the base. The USAF just built a fuel storage for there use at Darwin. they are not always there. But the USAF is increasing its presence there.
@Ironwulf2000
Жыл бұрын
@@anthonyb5279 Well if you want to get really technical Darwin was also built to handle the B-52. But yes the very obvious presence of a chinese carrier so close to an ally would probably prompt them to undertake a 'redeployment exercise'. The ANZUS, FPDA, and other treaties would be in full effect.
@anthonyb5279
Жыл бұрын
@@Ironwulf2000 Cool! I didn't know about the B52 thing. I think a Bone squadron was out there last summer maybe I think??? We did a big combined service operation last summer so the different services could practice working as one. Australia can't hang on there own, there Navy is tooo small. They need help from allies that would definitely be there for them.
@blumie006
Жыл бұрын
Us marines are stationed full time in Darwin on a 6 month rotation called MRF Darwin
@Valorius
Жыл бұрын
Australian ESSM *utterly dominated* in this battle
@cassius_eu5970
Жыл бұрын
Doesn't China already have its PL-17s and PL-21s in service?
@92HazelMocha
Жыл бұрын
Possibly. There's mention of at least the PL21 entering service, but no images of the missile. Edit: After some searching it's clear the PL17 has already entered service.
@pjfeige
Жыл бұрын
Where are the JAASM
@TheLargino
Жыл бұрын
The crux of this war game is that Darwin would get beat up the same way it did in WW2 when Japan dropped more ordinance on Darwin than on Pearl Harbour. There is a reason why the Japanese didn't try and occupy northern Australia.
@greghutchison9915
Жыл бұрын
Hi. RAAF Tindall (yes its Tindall) is 15KM south of the town of Katherine. Oz navy also has some older diesel powered Subs. In exercises with US around Hawaii Oz subs performed well in the past
@stevewhan7308
Жыл бұрын
Sorry, I missed the details. The ESSMs are quad-packed in each VLS. I believe LRASM is pending, & to be deployable from P8s too. Hope to soon have NSMs deployable from ships & F18 Superbugs. Wondering the game value in Growlers disrupting Red Force AWACS. Also of have a flight of ‘R-doubleA-F’ F35s staged in Darwin. Very interesting scenario, you guys did a great job!
@jamesnewman-u9k
Жыл бұрын
The array would pick them up before they passed the Philippines and would have sent information to uncle SAM before they even got close
@sesameseedbar8853
Жыл бұрын
As someone who lives in Darwin, there is a Full time USMC presence here. There has been for the better part of a decade. RAAF Tindal also houses US Airforce aircraft. The actual count for both airbases here in Darwin for fighters, far exceeds 100, as yearly, we have operation Pitch Black, which involves around 10-15 different nations here for training and exercise. All day and night, for about 4 weeks, it is non stop fighter jet launches. I live right next to the airport, and I mean literally a few kilometers from the Tarmac, and it is horrible 🤣 We also have emergency airbases scattered throughout that can be used. Also, the Max compliment for tbe Shandong Carrier is 44 fighters, however, China only has a total of roughly 60 of these between it's 2 carriers.
@scatha917
Жыл бұрын
Love these wargames and naval battles
@DirectorBird
Жыл бұрын
Is it possible for you all to do a full wartime american CSG vs china or something? Every ship present except maybe the sub.
Why were ALL of the Australian ships broadside to the Chinese missiles? It makes them a huge target. Even an Exocet can hit a broadside ship.
@jetsamjetsam
Жыл бұрын
cuz this guys a commie shill
@Ricky-nq7lu
Жыл бұрын
From a kiwi in NZ, I was totally ticked off when we turned down those f16s as we don't have any real air force here now.
@kazdean
Жыл бұрын
You can't sneak up on Australia from the north. The OTHR will spot them with plenty of time to have Collins class subs in position to shadow them. The Chinese fleet has to pass through choke points that make the submarine interception much easier. Within minutes of launching missiles toward Australia the a decent chunk of the Chinese fleet will be dodging torpedo's or sinking. The Chinese carrier would be the primary target of the subs and the loss of a carrier regardless of Australian losses would make it a net loss for China. Also the growlers not being properly modeled tilts things hugely in China's favour, the growlers jamming pods would interfere with Chinese misslie locks. The Australian ships are also equipped with the Nulka active missile decoy, so combined with the problematic targeting due to the growlers jamming and the Nulka decoy the 100% accuracy of the Chinese missiles in the modelling is unlikely.
@Squirl513
Жыл бұрын
Do the DCS maps have Djibouti? I can see a lot of possibilities for scenarios in that region. Plus I want to hear all of the obvious jokes from the GR crew.
@John_SlideRule_Bullay
5 ай бұрын
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@inodesnet
Жыл бұрын
Interestingly the 7th fleet was formed in Australia in 1943 originally as a response to the Japanese attacks on Darwin and Pacific US Marines are permanently based in Darwin as well. Would expect assistance from Singapore as well. Singapore are often also based in Darwin for training
@paulfri1569
Жыл бұрын
Formed in my city of Brisbane 🤠
@inodesnet
Жыл бұрын
@@paulfri1569 perfect city to do so during the time. Safe, but close to the north.
@thelastsaxon6279
Жыл бұрын
Its a shame there isn't a submarine aspect there as that would be quite a distraction to a modern fleet . Awesome simulation as always.
@Falkirion
Жыл бұрын
Assuming the RAN knew that a Chinese carrier group would be operating they'd definitely have boats moving to the area at top speed to potentially intercept. Depends how good the Carrier groups ASW is at detecting that threat and responding. If a pair of Collins boats were in the area I'd give good odds that the PLAN would have more trouble to deal with than they'd like. Mk48's ADCAPs are no laughing matter
@thelastsaxon6279
Жыл бұрын
@@Falkirion i'm pretty sure that any confrontation would have some build up to it so i would assume that one of ours if not multiple would be close by . I would not want to confront one nato attack sub let alone multiple.
@ryanarroldini4447
Жыл бұрын
This is an odd scenario. Why would the entire Australian Navy be clustered off Darwin!? With no submarines. Turkey shoot! With Jindalee Radar/Satellite we would know the PLN were on their way long before you assume. Back to the drawing board on a range of fronts for the Grim Reapers!
@jonahhekmatyar
Жыл бұрын
Submarines aren't modeled in dcs. Not to mention the same could be said for chinese subs that'd certainly be a part of the CSG
@BathoUglyMug
4 ай бұрын
So here we are, 15th May 2024. Where are those sneaky PLAN ships?
@NoelRodriguez-uj2iq
Жыл бұрын
Tip - Send one Cessna 172 with a can of Vegemite - open the window, expose an open can of Vegemite to the air - you will have the entire Chinese Navy turning 180 and puking all the way back to China in no time
@dinsnidero
Жыл бұрын
found myself humming Sabaton lyric 'and then the flying hussars arrived' when F-35s finally showed.
@craigkdillon
Жыл бұрын
In real life, battles don't exist in isolation. After this "victory", that Chinese fleet is out of missiles, and planes. On its way back to China, if the US, or Japan, has a ship in the area, even just a few anti-ship missiles would likely be successful in sinking some Chinese ships. One SSGN could take out that fleet, and have a lot left over to destroy China's bases in the SCS, or attack their port facilities. It would not end well for China, IMO.
@hades0572
Жыл бұрын
Chinas navy would not be attacking Australia with such a paltry number of ships. There'd be hundreds of them and there would be nothing we could do until they came into our EEZ even if we saw them all the way from Beijing.
@nevyn_karres
Жыл бұрын
@@hades0572 By then there would be a lot more navies involved than just the RAN.
@hades0572
Жыл бұрын
@@nevyn_karres Assumption makes an ass out of you and me. Only 1 nation has the capability to assist us and maybe the will to, none of the others would lift a hand in anyway shape or for except saying "Thoughts and prayers."
@nevyn_karres
Жыл бұрын
@@hades0572 Bro, we have a heap of allies and friends in the area, none of them would be silent.
@hades0572
Жыл бұрын
@@nevyn_karres And all of them rely on China for their own prosperity. Money/Greed will dictate their decision process and I can categorically guarantee you, they won't have a bar of it unless it impacts themselves.
@DollaryDooz
Жыл бұрын
As someone from Darwin i can rightfully say that you've gotten one massive fact wrong. Darwin airport is a military, air forces joint operations and training base with a domestic and international terminal attached to it. Not a domestic airport with military capability.
@maxrockatanksyOG
Жыл бұрын
When i served in 3RAR 1996- 2000, we spent some time up in NT/ Northern Qld with what is now called NorForce. We were told way back then, that Australia could hold a frontline in the North for around 72hrs (without having Conscription), before falling back for Guerilla type warfare. It wouldnt take a lot to overcome Australia; helped moreso by the Howard era disarming of 60% of the populatikn (i keep multiple firearms, and yes it is hard). 90% of required support would come from the USA, as this country has become too arse backwards to even have somthing similar to the National Guard et al
@DamienBahr
Жыл бұрын
There is the Jindalee over the horizon radar that would pick up a hostile flotilla way early, when they are a week away.
@azazeldeath
Жыл бұрын
As an Australian that grew up in Darwin. Tbh id be shocked if there wasn't atleast 2 or more USA ships nearby or in harbour. I swear it was harder to not see American assets there then actually not. Same as id honestly expect the F35 to be moved to Darwin international or one of the many many smaller airfields nearby. The thing people forget is Darwin was bombed in ww2. Large sections of even the Stuart highway can be used as an airfield and infact were. We also have the pine gap facility. I can't imagine great Britain or the Americans would be so relaxed over a carrier group coming in.
@trevorday7923
Жыл бұрын
"PANG!! Another Chinese down!" No, that was Wong. Pang is on the other carrier
@HypnoticChronic1
Жыл бұрын
Underrated joke right here.
@bargie38
Жыл бұрын
What you’ve set is for ALL Chinese pilots to be ‘ACE’ level. A big factor is pilot training and skill level, where you would find RAAF punch well above their weight, even against the USAF. Don’t forget air wars are fought with young D Cat pilots along with the experienced guys. Neither Nation would commit all assets in one action anyway. But all speculation so no biggie. Also, EA-18G has no internal gun.
@saraelizabethjoyce
Жыл бұрын
200+ long-range anti-shipping missiles (LRASM) in Australia since 2020
@Waywind420
Жыл бұрын
I for one welcome our new Chinese overlords. Maybe they'll put an end to that $360 billion deal for a couple of old, second hand US submarines 😆
@ArmySigs
Жыл бұрын
The idea that China's garbage fire Carriers could make it as far as Australia is laughable in itself.
@leepatterson5710
Жыл бұрын
While this can't be done in DCS, many of those ships would have been sunk or harassed by subs.
@Angie-in8wc
Жыл бұрын
As a Darwin resident I have zero confidence in our ability to defend ourselves.
@narcat3999
11 ай бұрын
The Japanese chose Darwin due to fuel required for a return trip. Realistically, anyone attacking Australia would target the East Coast Cities. Darwin doesn't have anything that a carrier couldn't facilitate.
@matthewcox7985
Жыл бұрын
This kind of raid, intended to draw the Navy into a trap, would be followed up immediately with a cruise missile attack on the bases, launched by bombers from some distance out (and possibly from another direction.) Then another carrier group - if the Red side has one - takes over, and sets up air superiority to lead a land invasion. Once you have the terrain maps, that might be a mission to model. What's left of the RAAF and their whittled-down resources now has to deal with a bomber formation launching cruise missiles. Land-based SAMs will come into play, but how well would they do against cruise missiles? Can bombers launch supersonic cruise missiles?
@superstorby
Жыл бұрын
Just to add to the details, ANZAC Class carry 8 Harpoon as well, they are even shown in the picture that Cap shows. In reality our Submarine force would be a factor in this fight as well if they were in the area.
@shaunphillips6160
Жыл бұрын
Bro, we carry dummy harpoon all the time 😂😂😂
@andro3455
Жыл бұрын
And this scenario is exactly why we need the Virginia Class Submarines.
@VenturiLife
Жыл бұрын
"Harpoons are crap!" **Moskva visible confusion**
@KevinNewton-i3b
Жыл бұрын
Australia has stand off weapons, JDAMS, also there is the Jindalee Operational Radar Network it is an over the horizon radar that can be interfaced with RAN and RAF, these factors need to to be involved in the scenario
@SanctuaryLife
Жыл бұрын
And don't forget the threat of bogans, highly aggressive!
@shaunphillips6160
Жыл бұрын
All gone to ukraine 😂😂😂
@mrgoober6320
Жыл бұрын
US satellites would absolutely detect Chinese fleet preparations before they even left port.
@christiancerny5564
Жыл бұрын
No body is accounting for our trained Dolphins with Ship mines strapped to their heads..Formidable!
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