Such an underrated series. I definitely appreciate in depth timing videos because I'm new to engine building but love DIYing
@ccfiberglass
4 жыл бұрын
My son and I are rebuilding his 2011 5.0. This video was excellent.
@shotemup123
5 жыл бұрын
I remember doing this my first time. Mod motors are just so much more fun to work on.
@alexcooper7376
5 жыл бұрын
Bro, your username lmao
@jeremyfatfab
5 жыл бұрын
This is a good video, I referenced it a few times today putting together a budget coyote from used parts haha. Thanks guys!!!!
@christenn32
4 жыл бұрын
How did the build go? My brother has a gen1 5.0 with bad cam phasers and we're going to have to do the replacement ourselves to save money but we have zero experience besides installing a supercharger on the motor.
@melsilva9158
5 жыл бұрын
Good job buddy. Way more complicated than my old 302 roller cam.
@OutOfLineGarage
5 жыл бұрын
Mel Silva it’s actually not to bad, looks complicated but just have to make sure you get the timing right and you will be good.
@177SCmaro
4 жыл бұрын
What gets a little more complicated is when you degree cams on a Coyote when using a vvt lock out or using vvt and tuning it.
@mrsfc7602
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you.im watching all your videos on this engine.i rebuild the same engine by myself
@narc46
5 жыл бұрын
One thing I'm sure you guys know but forgot to mention, all the cam cap bolts and cam phaser bolts are one time use torque to yield so throw the old ones away and install new ones. Here are the Ford part numbers. N806183-S437 Camshaft main cap bolts (40 needed), BR3Z-6279-A Camshaft phaser to cam bolts (12 needed).
@OutOfLineGarage
5 жыл бұрын
Yea, some things get left out of the videos sometimes. Thanks for the assist.
@Sdibble2000
5 жыл бұрын
Thank you kevin! Im doing this exact swap of a new 15-17 shortblock into my 11 gt. Any other tty bolts you guys could suggest I need to pick up? Balancer bolt, head bolts, cam bolts and phaser bolts. Anything else?
@dabesdrboy
5 жыл бұрын
You guys are fucking awesome for this build, this was the exact route I wanted to go gen 2 shortblock but with boss 302 cams
@simplyred6780
5 жыл бұрын
These people definitely steer you right well explained incredible
@tammyhynes210
3 жыл бұрын
Awesome
@valentincordero7802
4 жыл бұрын
Great job!!! Professional.
@MJ-gj6ep
5 жыл бұрын
I gotta say this is the first video I've seen on your channel but it's very good and just earned my subscription and like :D We appreciate the details and visuals on building this phenomenal engine, thanks!
@OutOfLineGarage
5 жыл бұрын
Awesome having you, Dwight! Thanks, we do our best to put out helpful info. Don't have the Challenger anymore?
@elrad10
Ай бұрын
I’ve seen two different chain install on the phasers? I’ve seen one has the double link chain on the exhaust phaser and the single link on the intake phaser. I have also seen it vice-versa? Which is correct?
@jermiahanton3861
5 ай бұрын
So i didn't find your video until after i put my cam caps and timing in all in. I went 90 degrees not 45 accidentally . Will that hert anything you think?
@toddabrahamsson1797
5 жыл бұрын
To all viewers when you have a catastrophic engine failure of this type. All original engine eq. Should be cleaned of and leftover metal pieces from what ever failed inside the engine. Because of the piston failure the heads should have been disassembled and given a complete valve job. All guides as in the chains should have been replaces. Again all oil remnants from the past should have been completely cleaned.
@OutOfLineGarage
5 жыл бұрын
Almost everything was cleaned before re-assembly, just didn't show it on video. I did debate replacing the timing equipment but we were already wayyy over budget for the build. The original plan was to pick up a set of 15-17 heads but we ran out of cash very quickly.
@wiawii
4 жыл бұрын
Everyone is always pressed for time on builds guys needs to just chillax and plan out.
@joshtheking1772
4 жыл бұрын
Those engines have such a high amount of potential that's just wasted. That timing chain system is such a cluster. That system has just failed so many times on high horsepower applications. That whole front cover design is just flat dumb. Anytime you take the heads off you have to disassemble the whole front of the engine. Serviceability goes right out the window. Good video guys and good job.
@177SCmaro
4 жыл бұрын
The timing chain system on the Coyote isn't know for failing, stronger chains and sprockets are available if necessary, and you don't have to remove the timing cover to remove the heads you just have to remove any timing cover bolts that go into the heads and loosen the primary chain tensioner(s) and slip the primary chain off the sprocket then remove and reset the tensioner(s) before putting them back in. Difficult but not impossible. It's typically easier to just pull the whole cover but the heads can be removed without pulling the timing cover. Most modern engines are like this except for cam in block engines which have the trade-off of you can't remove the cam without disassembling most of the front of the engine. These are trade-offs, not "dumb" design choices.
@charlesmeaux3954
3 жыл бұрын
Josh you are a moron. The Coyote is essentially the pinnacle of engine technology. There is no timing chain fail that is not directly related to excessive RPM or torque past the design specification. If you need to spin higher than 8500 or more there are upgraded chains. The phasers do not fail in normal environments. And the "serviceability" is the same for any modern motor.
@altontsinnijinnie5990
2 жыл бұрын
What size bolt/ thread fits the bell housing, to mount the coyote on a engine stand???
@golfatit3140
11 ай бұрын
My boundary sprocket was a little hard to slid in after the half way mark .. normal ?
@elcochiii
5 жыл бұрын
awesome vid,one question,how do you know how to put the cams in the correct position before installing the secondary chain ?
@user-sl4uf1fp7x
11 ай бұрын
Just FYI you said 133ft lbs on phaser bolts but it's not ft lbs its inch lbs a lot of people who don't know better will strip their bolts from this mistake
@GetShrektMrKrabs
5 жыл бұрын
May seem like a stupid question but do the lifters and rocker arms just sit in the hole and on top of the valve
@spenceronni7
4 жыл бұрын
There aren’t any rocker arms. The camshaft pushes down directly onto the hydraulic valve lash adjuster (lifter) which in turn pushes down on the valve.
@DomDson
3 жыл бұрын
After doing the left side chain you have to rotate the crank 360° then bring it to 12 oclock. I hope no one just went to 12 after 5 lol
@djlowman9159
3 жыл бұрын
Um. This is kind of important? Is this true?
@marquezgarage2915
3 жыл бұрын
@@djlowman9159 ITS A LIE JUST PUT IT TO 12
@enriquefarias853
5 жыл бұрын
question .did u turn the engine clock wise for the second chain ?
@joeymustang
5 жыл бұрын
what about the lifters and rockers? I was looking thru the manual and it doesn't say anything. Do you just drop the lifters on the hole and call it a day? What about the rockers? Any torque rating required on them? What about lash adjustment?
@OutOfLineGarage
5 жыл бұрын
The cam holds the rockers in, no need for lifters or pushrods since the cams are above and push down in on the rockers to open the valves.
@lusun8078
3 жыл бұрын
Hi bro, where did you get the workshop manual? Can you share the link ? thanks!
@OutOfLineGarage
3 жыл бұрын
It's probably the first link in the description.
@musclecar62
3 жыл бұрын
I have a 2017 mustang GT with 45K miles. I also have a 2012 mustang GT with 115K miles. I am wanting to just swapping the long blocks. 17’ engine into my 12’ engine. While I am at it, I will install Billet oil pump gears on the Gen2 motor. Is this project a simple swap over, as in plug and play or is there issues throughout??
@OutOfLineGarage
3 жыл бұрын
It’s pretty much plug and play. Just have to use your 11-14 oil pan. We did an entire build series so you might want to check out the other videos.
@musclecar62
3 жыл бұрын
You have a link please
@OutOfLineGarage
3 жыл бұрын
This is the full Coyote build list. kzitem.info/door/PLJxSPkSBiRQZs89YAZfG1A1_6mZsfkuO8
@adamnewton4241
3 жыл бұрын
If I have a gen1 block will timing it still be the same since it’s all gen 1 timing components?
@OutOfLineGarage
3 жыл бұрын
Adam Newton yes
@bigpappa9595
4 жыл бұрын
Where did you get the service manual to do this? I’ve been looking!
@OutOfLineGarage
4 жыл бұрын
the workshop manual is in description
@bigpappa9595
4 жыл бұрын
Out of Line Garage thanks!
@lanceperley3144
4 жыл бұрын
Haynes service manuals are good too, rebuilt my whole engine block up for my 14 f150 5.0 with it!
@NPF_TV
5 жыл бұрын
Those filters kill subies... we remove em dirty oil better than oil starved due to clogged filter.. besides there shouldnt be crud in your oil!
@narc46
5 жыл бұрын
Did you guys light the fire on this thing yet? Hows it run? Any problems?
@OutOfLineGarage
5 жыл бұрын
Waiting on a couple more parts. Then we can try to fire it up. Might even do it on a live stream....
@narc46
5 жыл бұрын
@@OutOfLineGarage I know about waiting parts, I have my new block, heads are in the machine shop and still waiting on my forged rotating assembly from MMR.
@nuttynut54
5 жыл бұрын
Just wondering if you guys upgraded the oil pump gear when you had the front cover off and did u use the same cams or upgrade them too
@OutOfLineGarage
5 жыл бұрын
In a newer video we install new upgraded oil pump gears, kept the same cams.
@nuttynut54
5 жыл бұрын
Awesome cant wait too see the project up an running
@chadriddle4357
3 жыл бұрын
Did you reuse the cam sprocket?
@OutOfLineGarage
3 жыл бұрын
Yes
@chadriddle4357
3 жыл бұрын
Great video series on the 5.0! I found your channel looking up timing chain replacement keep up the good work
@tomashton1781
5 жыл бұрын
those timing chains are too long, mopar did a deal where they ran the cam chains off the old cam tunnel which reduced the length
@pdmustgtd1013
4 жыл бұрын
No different than first 4.6 4V DOHC engine exact same setup even 4.6 2V had same setup. Engine very easy to time video makes it look harder than what it is
@02autogt
4 жыл бұрын
Those chains are just long enough to smoke a Mopar, lol!!
@ninpofc
5 жыл бұрын
whats the bolt size for engine stand ?
@OutOfLineGarage
5 жыл бұрын
FRANCIS CAMPOS I just used the trans bolts and random washers to hold it on.
@prophet409
2 жыл бұрын
I understand you give a basic info, so give me a close up of the marks, and how to set up the cam and crank. I what to sé a close up of the marks. Í havé bee looking on engines for years. I don't care you can't keep the cams separated. I know better than that I know better than mixing them up. Other words I want to see the hash marks, and not you can't keeping the stuff strait.
@cobrajeff96
4 жыл бұрын
@16:25 133 ft-lbs?!
@OutOfLineGarage
4 жыл бұрын
NO!! Not sure how he ever glitched that but there should be a message that pops up when he says that. 133 inch pounds
@kd5ozy
5 жыл бұрын
No thanks! LS!!!! too much to go wrong.
@02autogt
4 жыл бұрын
@Supreme Alpha Male and tht he doesn't mind getting dragged by a Coyote, lol!
@BillWood1
5 жыл бұрын
Please switch to heavy assembly lube for the build. PLEASE! The heavy assembly lube does not cost that much but will stay in place for months while the build is completed! The oil you are using may nearly wick out completely. You may have nearly dry cam journals on startup. NOT a good situation! Also, just a good idea for wear and even seating, do not tighten the lower chain guide until AFTER mounting the tensioner and pulling out the paper clip. The tensioner pressure helps to level the guides for more even contact area.
@OutOfLineGarage
5 жыл бұрын
I agree in the lube but it isn't too much of a big deal with coyotes since you are supposed to prime the engines from the oil pressure sensor and verify oil made it up to the heads before starting anyways. Good point on the chain guides though!
@BillWood1
5 жыл бұрын
@@OutOfLineGarage -- I personally would still use assembly lube unless I were going to be cranking it within a week. Any more than a week and real assembly lube paste should be considered. Just a little bit more insurance for the money and time on a good build.
@stefandwoodham
5 жыл бұрын
Should have that garage door shut, alot of dirt going in there
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