For me it was a life changer. Rediscovering my old records. Simply wow.
@brunohebert1351
Жыл бұрын
This seams like a great albeit expensive machine. I have the Humminguru and I'm quite happy with it. Yes, you have to fill the tank yourself but it's not too much trouble (one guy did make a mod for it to refill the tank automatically, search it up on google, but I found it quite cumbersome and complex to do). I only use distilled water in my Humminguru and so far I don't see the need to add anything. I didn't experience the water issues you were mentioning (x2 cycle dry works like a charm for me) Humminguru also sells a solution to add to the tank but I find it surprising that they don't include the solution with the machine. And in the literature that comes with it, if memory serves well, they mention to use only distilled water. Maybe I'll try one day but I might want to do a rinse afterwards if I do (good thing I ordered an extra tank from HG) I did notice though, that with some records, it has an issue where the record doesn't rotate. Main example: Animals 2018 remix box set. Which is not a great pressing I found. 3 copies, none of the records would spin in the machine unless I would gently push the edge on one side. Had the same issue with another record that had a little protrusion on the edge.. every time it would go down it will stay stuck. Again a gentle push on the side would fix it until it went down again. So far, I cleaned close to 80 records and only had those 2 problems. I do make sure now that the record is spinning before I leave the machine unattended, just in case Even if you have a Degritter or (the holy grail) a KL Audio ($7k++), do not put dirty records in there. Ultrasonic cleaning will not take care of oils, fingerprints etc. If you have a dirty record, prewash it by hand first then run it in the ultrasonic cleaner. Little off topic or side note: anyone has/uses the Humminguru S-DUO ultrasonic stylus cleaner? I got one at the same time I ordered my machines spares from Hong Kong since it was reasonable and no extra shipping costs. I have no complaints so far apart the battery life. But I'm curious to know if anyone else is using it as there are no reviews (to my knowledge at this time) available. Thank you for another great review.
@soundmatters
Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for the detailed comment here. The price will undoubtedly be a deal breaker for many, I completely get that. And I suppose I am talking from a privileged position where I am sent these things (HumminGuru included) for review. That said, I have been sent products that I just wholeheartedly could not recommend, and I often get emails from suppliers in China offering to send me things that I would never be able to recommend on this channel. I think the HumminGuru does a superb job for the price that it is. (Interesting mod, by the way, I will look that up!) I definitely won't be getting rid of the Pro-Ject VCM either, for the very reason you state about very stubborn fingerprints, oils etc. I had that exact issue when reviewing the HimminGuru. I'd love to check out the S-DUO by the way. All in good time - glad to hear you found it works well, albeit with limited battery life. Thanks again for your time commenting. Enjoy the music!
@staggerlee6794
Жыл бұрын
That's really weird. I also had a rotation issue with Pink Floyd Animals, but it was my original copy that wouldn't spin in the HummingGuru. The 2018 box set and the standalone worked fine. But now you have me doubting my memory, so I will give them a try later.
@frankvanhelvert6231
Жыл бұрын
prewash is KEY! for any ultr.sonic to work properly! thanks
@Vinylfromtheunderground
4 ай бұрын
Very important. AI audio intelligent has released a concentrated enzyme formula for ultrasonic machines that doesn’t foam up. It’s a one of a kind formula with enzymes that work to lift dirt, grime, grease etc but doesn’t foam and never needs a rinse after the machine runs. Huge game changer. I have been using it and tossed out my surfactants as a result since they all created foam.
@soundmatters
4 ай бұрын
Interesting: I'll take a look
@Shivaxi
2 ай бұрын
@@soundmatters was this ever looked at? i'd be interested in hearing more feedback/results
@lawrence5368
Жыл бұрын
I bought the Mk 2 back in March of this year and am completely happy with it. In Canada here with all taxes and enviro fees, it was a few pennies short of $5100.
@soundmatters
Жыл бұрын
Glad to hear it’s working well! Happy (clean) spinning🤘🎧
@mxcope
2 ай бұрын
Drop it to $1500 and I'm starting to get interested. $3K is insane.
@user-vw2lz4mk1k
Жыл бұрын
Good review and video. However, I've had nothing but AMAZING results with the HumminGuru + G Sonic. I personally haven't had issues with water temperature―the HumminGuru's reduced ultrasonic power might be the reason why the water doesn't get too hot with subsequent cleanings and why the Degritter requires a cooling mechanism. Worth pointing out that even if you need a second clean cycle, you're still pressing buttons and letting the machine do the thing (apart from having to manually dump the water back into the reservoir). No doubt the Degritter is a beast, but justifying an extra $3,000 is going to be very, very, very difficult. Having the machine automatically deal with the water instead of manually dumping the water into the reservoir isn't really worth an extra $3K IMO, and that seems to be the biggest quality of life feature the Degritter truly gets you. Everything else, like the cooling mechanism, seem like features that were put in place as a way to remedy potential issues caused by the higher ultrasonic power. Just my two cents!
@soundmatters
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for commenting and sharing your experience. Yep: totally get that point of view, it’s a big sun to cough up. And as you can hear, the HumminGuru did perform well with the G Sonic on the Rod Stewart record (love the guys at GrooveWasher). Absolutely they are both great products in their price brackets! Pros and cons to each. Happy spinning!
@Pascal15B
Жыл бұрын
I’m the very happy owner of a Degritter MKII. I sold my Audio Desk System Pro ultrasonic cleaner to buy the Degritter. I have to say it’s an amazing cleaner & better than anything I’ve used, considering the Audio Desk is more expensive. I’ve found the Degritter to be an amazing cleaner & also there’s zero static after cleaning. I can more than highly recommend it. Thanks also for the review.
@soundmatters
Жыл бұрын
@@Pascal15B Thanks for watching! What sold you over the Audio Desk mostly?
@Pascal15B
Жыл бұрын
@@soundmatters For me it was a better ultrasonic cleaning process, plus the monoriting of all going on & the ability to use a rinse tank. Over many years I’ve gone up through the ranks of really basic spraying & a cloth, to the Spin Clean, to vacuum types, then Audio Desk & finally the Degritter MKII. It has proved to be the best at what it is supposed to do, out of all I’ve used previously.
@user-vw2lz4mk1k
Жыл бұрын
@@Pascal15B I bet it’s great! Just overpriced for what it is.
@evenslimmersladey
Жыл бұрын
Just got a Mk 2. Reading the instructions has scared the life out of me. Heck of a lot to take in and absorb. Will let you know how I get on when I set it up.
@soundmatters
Жыл бұрын
Great stuff! Hope it all goes smoothly. It's easy enough once you get going. Happy cleaning and spinning
@Habitual_Liar
3 ай бұрын
Have you had any issues with your machine? I was considering buying one but have read about a high failure rate.
@bkkersey93
Жыл бұрын
Only thing is that Degritter is waaay overpriced. Otherwise I'd love to get it.
@budsmoker4201120
5 ай бұрын
Everything that is made with quality is incredible over priced in this hobby. It is the most annoying part of the hobby. I think the boomers are driving the price. But if you go cheaper I find you end up buying a bunch of other crap knock offs that break then I end up getting the good one. I just stopped doing that and just started saving to buy the good quality for each item so I don't have to think about them anymore
@faludabutt8253
5 ай бұрын
@@budsmoker4201120 The reason these things are expensive because they don’t sell enough. If these sell as usual gadgets, TEMU would be selling them😊
@rbyington22
4 ай бұрын
Based on what are you basing your option on
@budsmoker4201120
4 ай бұрын
@@rbyington22what are you trying to say?
@timkimware3537
3 ай бұрын
Do you have knowledge of the expense to produce these? Sure, maybe they’re overpriced but to know if they’re unfairly or over-priced you’d have to know the profit margins which I suspect you don’t, so you’re just expressing an uninformed opinion. You can do better.
@davidmaraman855
Жыл бұрын
Thank you for a very thorough review on the Degritter Mark II. I am tempted to invest in one of these machines. This vinyl hobby is getting expensive.
@soundmatters
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for your comment and watching David. It’s certainly not a cheap hobby! If you do pull the trigger, I hope it serves you well. Let me know how you get on. Happy listening 🎧🎶
@leehazlewoodism
9 ай бұрын
Clean records will extend your stylus life so that's a bit of money saved
@InfectiousGroovePodcast
Жыл бұрын
I've had a VPI 16.5 for years and years. I keep ALMOST jumping up to an ultrasonic, but have yet to make the jump.
@leehazlewoodism
9 ай бұрын
Your ears will thank you when you do. I used to have a Moth and I kept ear defenders at hand.
@johnparks6172
6 ай бұрын
Great review. This will be useful to many people.
@snerp
Жыл бұрын
I've just watched a comparison video with audio samples including sound wave charts using a Spin Clean VS the HumminGuru VS the Degritter and the differences were hardly impressive. The test records started on the Spin Clean and ended on the Degritter. You would think by the time the same test records where run through the Degritter there would be hardly no surface noise or clicks etc...nope, the records sounded basically the same. So for a Spin Clean at $80 VS a Degritter at $4500 (Canadian Dollars) I would say for most stick with the Spin Clean or the HumminGuru and save your thousands for more records.
@soundmatters
Жыл бұрын
These before and after tests are always tricky. There are so many variables. Unless you are able to take the exact same record, with exactly the same kind of muck and dirt, and duplicate it, you'll never get a true A/B. The Spin Clean is a great affordable bulk cleaner BTW - I rate it for what it costs.
@AngeloKellyOfficial
Жыл бұрын
Great video 👍
@audiotomb
4 ай бұрын
Glad to see an inexpensive Ultrasonic in the DeGritter. I have had a KLaudio CDP Ultrasonic since 2013. It has been an excellent machine and has done over 5.000 lps. The records come out perfectly dry. That Huming Guru wash basin looks a bit finicky . The KAudio continuously spins not the back and forth rotation like the Degritter . I also have a nice silencer option. Have you run a colored vinyl record through it multi times to look for residue?
@staggerlee6794
Жыл бұрын
I have a Humminguru and I have to say for the price it comes in at, if anything it actually over performs. I am sure the Degritter is fantastic but the price difference makes the choice a no-brainer in favour of the Humminguru.
@soundmatters
Жыл бұрын
The Humminguru is a great affordable option for sure. Happy spinning :)
@waynecroxford2358
5 ай бұрын
I've just bought one but have yet to turn it on as there is a warning about selecting the correct AC voltage range. The red slide switch on the back of the machine is currently in the up position. It isn't clear which position is 240v and which is 115v. I'm based in the UK.
@soundmatters
5 ай бұрын
I’m in the U.K. too. Mine is set to the up position with “230” in black text showing in the red below it. If this is the case for you too, you’re good to go 🎶👍
@ChrisMag100
Жыл бұрын
I have a Mk1. Love it.
@soundmatters
Жыл бұрын
Great stuff! Happy listening
@peterrech2307
Жыл бұрын
Hi Mark, I agree with you that the Degritter is the best commercially available ultrasonic unit available at the present time. The reason that the Degritter works better than any other machine out there is because it is the only unit that is purposely designed for this purpose that uses 120khz as its frequency. All other purpose built units use 35 to 49khz frequency, the reason being the cost of the 120khz transducers. 90% of all ultrasonic units built for all industries use 35 to 40khz frequency therefore those frequencies have a much larger market than all other frequencies combined. 120khz results in finer, smaller cavitation bubbles that get deeper into the groove thus giving the record a deeper clean. My concern with the Humminguru is the same as Vinyl Attack's, thit is not a full power ultrasonic unit. The Degritter is absolutely ridiculous in price. I don't have one at all, a friend of mine does, we tested it against the Humminguru, yes it was much better. Here in Australia the Degritter Mk.11 with extra tank and size adaptors cost about $5,700aud about 3,000 pounds. Overpriced and my friends Mk.1 unit has not been reliable. I use a 10litre multi frequency tank unit (40/80/122khz) which i have tested against the degritter and its results are the same as the Degritter without the high price tag, but does not dry of course, but i can have three of my units for one Degritter here. Enjoy the music.
@soundmatters
Жыл бұрын
Excellent contribution Peter, much appreciated. Indeed it is expensive. Absolutely worth highlighting that about the 120KHz frequency. I should’ve mentioned the cavitation bubble size in the review really. It makes all the difference and the results are definitely better than the HunminGuru as you say, and I found also. 60w and much lower frequency. It does get some results, but nowhere near the Degritter. I’ve seen some of these adaptors over ultrasonic tanks. (A company called “cleaner vinyl” makes one if I recall? Nice to hear yours has a high frequency tank. Sounds like a great affordable alternative! Also, I think Cleaner Vinyl make a drying fan too? Thanks so much for your contribution and comment. Keep spinning! 🎶🎧
@FrenchMod
4 ай бұрын
Hi Peter, could you tell me which tank unit you ended up buying ?
@peterrech2307
4 ай бұрын
@@FrenchMod initially bought a 40/80/122khz Chinese 10litre tank unit. Scrapped it though because of reliability problems. I am now in process of having my own 25litre tanks made which allow 15 LPs to be carried with a spacing of 2 inches allowing for better cavitation. I am using 40/80khz transducers on one tank then a second tank with 122khz/220khz transducers in it and timers to switch between frequencies. Using 6 multi frequency transducers per tank. will look at doing a video for it when done. I did look at using Elma tanks from Germany but also rather expensive and as typical of Germany companies they would not build the unit to my design.
@FrenchMod
4 ай бұрын
@@peterrech2307 Thanks for your answer. I'm looking myself to buy an ultrasonic cleaner, I do want to be able to switch between 40 and 80kHz (and ideally 120 also). I was looking at those chinese tanks + vinyl adapter (not gonna need to clean more than 1-3 7" or 12" at once). You don't recommend these ? Or are there any reliable options for less than $500 ?
@peterrech2307
4 ай бұрын
@@FrenchMod I have not seen a multi-frequency unit under $500. The reason is because multi frequency or higher frequency transducers are far more expensive than the 40khz ones because 40khz is the ultrasonic industry standard. My unit will cost almost what a Degritter does but it is a higher frequency and more records at once. I am building it for myself because I have around 15,000+ LPs to clean. In the around $500 range the Humminguru unit is not bad but it is only 40khz and to start modifying it to multi frequency could be problematic and difficult let alone destroying any warranty it has. I am going as high as 220khz because the cavitation bubbles at this frequency is 4 microns and the record grooves are 6 microns thus the 220khz frequency cavitation gets to the bottom of the groove giving a much better cleaning effect than the lower frequencies. The Chinese units become fragile if worked to hard, the unit I used was worked to death during testing of the frequency switching. The one i do not recommend is the Vevor unit, nearly electrocuted me then caught fire. I have no trust in the Chinese tank units if they are worked hard. 40lhz will do the job adequately. The KLaudio unit which is considered one of the best uses 40khz. I unfortunately am chasing the ultimate in cleaning and never settle for less than I want.
@iansmithpersonal
Жыл бұрын
I find the whole idea of having to pay £500 (or £3000!!) just to clean your records when this was never necessary back in the day, ridiculous. However, I am sick of loud clicks and crackles on so much new vinyl (I only buy new vinyl) and I feel like I've been bullied into finding the £500 to buy the HumminGuru, which I took delivery of yesterday. My worst albums for crackles and clicks, which make the albums virtually unlistenable, are ABBA's "Voyage", The Ruts "The Crack", Mike Oldfield's "Tubular Bells (2018 grey vinyl edition)" and Tom Odell's "Best Day of My Life". Commentators convinced me that cleaning these with an ultrasonic cleaner would make them sound much better, even though they were brand new and sealed when purchased. So I spent most of yesterday "deep" cleaning them with HumminGuru's own recommended cleaning fluid (not included with the original hardware) added to the water (2-3 drops as advised). The diffrence in audio quality is not really discernible. The loud clicks and crackles are still all there. This has turned out to be a terrible investment and waste of money. I also have a "listenable" Elton John "Tumbleweed Connection" vinyl reissue (green vinyl from 2020) that was mint and sounds great apart from three bursts of crackle on the last two tracks on Side 1. I put that through the cleaner too. No change whatsoever. It turns out a shitty modern pressing is just that - a shitty modern pressing, and no ultrasonic cleaner can fix that. I feel like I totally wasted my money on getting an expensive cleaner, especially when my local record store offers a "£2 a disc" cleaning service anyway. Nothing against the HumminGuru per se - it's an elegant design and seems to go through its processes quite well. But I've bought hardware that is clearly intended for people with dirty records, not those who buy new, use poly-lined sleeves on all their purchases and generally look after them.
@soundmatters
Жыл бұрын
Sadly, if it's the pressing and not dirt, then no amount of cleaning will fix that. Sometimes, though, new records do benefit from a clean to remove any contaminants from the manufacturing process, including paper sleeve flakes and release agent from the pressing process. I'm sure the HumminGuru will come in handy for some records, and if you ever feel like buying vintage records, you're all set now with a cleaning machine. In any case, happy listening!
@stillaliveandwell5291
Жыл бұрын
Yes probably in the pressing but the vinyl grooves are deep and not all cartridges play at the same depth. I've read 100's of cartridge reviews and its often mentioned how some cartridges ( really stylus shapes of which there are quite a few) seem to handle the grooves in the deeper area that do not have as much or any crackles and pops. My Sumiko blackbird is pretty forgiving in that regard but it's not very expensive and still has original stylus after 15 years. I'm calculating 2000 hrs. I had it repaired 5 years ago by VAS and Steve would not let me talk him into replacing the stylus. He tightened the suspension and tested it and it was higher than original spec in channel separation and sent me a photo of the test results. I wish I had of kept track of those cartridges in the reviews that were better at tracing the grooves when I eventually buy one in a higher price range.
@leehazlewoodism
9 ай бұрын
Keith Monks started making record cleaning machines in the late '60s. Lots of UK libraries had them in their backrooms in the '70s.
@astolatpere11
4 ай бұрын
Something sounds wrong here. I use an inexpensive vevor us and even beat looking lps sound not just cleaner but fresher. It may be static bursts that you are hearing. I use a fine brush and distilled water in a sprayer. Spritz the brush and gently brush with the lp on the tt. I have eliminated static bursts in my very dry environment.
@dimebagdave77
Жыл бұрын
Manythnx for a great review ✌️
@soundmatters
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@surf01er66
Жыл бұрын
Excellent vlog, thanks
@romerolemstra8747
7 ай бұрын
Are there any difference or improvements with using the groovewasher g-sonic with the degritter in your experience?
@cementheed
9 ай бұрын
I just bought a VEVOR record cleaning machine.
@soundmatters
9 ай бұрын
Cool Any good?
@surf01er66
Жыл бұрын
Excellent, thank you !!!
@laurenceeddleston5302
5 ай бұрын
Hi - can I ask where you got the stands from for your Kipstch speakers ?
@soundmatters
4 ай бұрын
Those are just Auralex foam studio speaker isolators
@SJackson-ro4ro
Жыл бұрын
I’d be interested in how you think it compares with the Rolls Royce of record cleaners, the Loricraft?
@soundmatters
Жыл бұрын
Those Loricraft machines look great. Very different approach, of course. Maybe I’ll get to test one some day.
@leehazlewoodism
9 ай бұрын
I've had a Loricraft and it's not all that. Very similar principle to Keith Monks, on a poshed up Lenco turntable. You have to do the cleaning yourself, all the machine does is vacuum off the fluid. Nice box, lovely lid, good quality engineering but there's no comparison between Monks/Loricraft and ultrasonic.
@zfunke
Жыл бұрын
What has been your experience with washing picture discs with the MK2? Thank you!
@soundmatters
11 ай бұрын
I haven’t actually tried that yet, though I tend to use picture discs more for display
@leehazlewoodism
9 ай бұрын
IME picture discs are generally irredeemable. Nice to look at but noisy and all the cleaning in the world won't fix that. There's a guy on ebay who cleans records with a Degritter - for a fiver a pop - so you can try but I strongly suspect it won't make an appreciable difference.
@HollywoodSnob_
6 ай бұрын
What does the cleaning fluid consists of? I don't wanna pay for things I can do on my own way cheaper.
@andreastanzer4026
Жыл бұрын
What about comparison to the pro-ject. No words about that.
@soundmatters
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for your question. The Pro-Ject VC is a great option on a budget. I own one, have done for years. Both machines have their merits. The Degritter is undoubtedly nicer to use, less hard work, and much quieter. But then the price is much higher. Ultrasonic is great at cleaning in the groove but it's not always the best approach for removing finger prints. Overall, the Degritter is the best performer, but that's not to say you can't get very close with the Pro-Ject VC, you just might have to work a little harder and be OK with a noisier machine.
@HeavyEarly
Жыл бұрын
For $3k+ it better make a record the cleanest thing on the planet. Stupidly overpriced.
@Pascal15B
Жыл бұрын
To be honest, of course it’s expensive, but worth it. I’ve owned & tried all types of machine & cleaning processes & none come close to what this Degritter MKII does. If I was the owner of a turntable set up that cost a few hundred pound or dollars, I wouldn’t spend the money, but since I have a very decent turntable set up, with the cartridge costing £1800, then it’s more than worth it for me.
@user-vw2lz4mk1k
Жыл бұрын
100% Agreed. They need to figure out a way to reduce the price. There’s just no way it’s worth $3K more than the HumminGuru.
@Pascal15B
Жыл бұрын
@@user-vw2lz4mk1k I have a friend with the Humming Guru & the difference is substantial between them in every way. My friend agrees that 100%, in any side by side comparisons we’ve done, the Degritter is better at producing cleaner records, with no static & no dust left behind, as happens with his Humming Guru. But for him, it suits his needs & was well within his budget. But if you don’t need it, then you don’t have anything to worry about. 😊
@bkkersey93
Жыл бұрын
@@Pascal15BBut $3000 better? Yeah, not a chance.
@soundmatters
Жыл бұрын
@@bkkersey93I respect everyone’s opinion on this and both products are great at their price point. It does, I think, go beyond just cleaning results though. The Degritter results are better, in my experience, but it’s also the product build quality, the level of customer support, and the convenience of operation. Don’t get me wrong, I totally get that it’s a very, very big cost. At the end of the day, it’s not a product for everyone and they’re definitely targeting the premium end of the market. Not everyone has the budget (or even the appetite for it), but it is very good at what it does for those who want to go down a particular path.
@rogerdjs
9 ай бұрын
Regardless how money you may have it just doesn't make sense to spend 3500 on a single record cleaning machine. I have about 5000 records in my collection and with the help of a Vevor ,DIY Filter Pump and wireless drying fan and I've successfully clean all my albums in about 60 days. And to top it, I've spent less than 300 dollars on equipment and cleaning supplies...
@mariocassar6087
9 ай бұрын
It’s worth, according to me , is €500.
@anthonylawrence4621
Жыл бұрын
There are other high end sonic record cleaners that you have not tried. All you can say is this is the best that you have tried.
@soundmatters
Жыл бұрын
I'd love to do further comparisons. All in good time. I certainly can't fault the user experience and performance of the Degritter and it looks more "living room friendly" than a lot of the other high end machines. But then again, this won't be important to everyone. Happy spinning!
@sheenaweglein5052
5 ай бұрын
The fact that you are using an Ortofon Blue really says a lot 😢
@soundmatters
5 ай бұрын
🤣
@lpc1231000
2 ай бұрын
I have an Ortofon Blue, yet would not consider getting the Degritter for that price. BTW, manually cleaning records using the steps laid out by "Precision Aqueous Cleaning of Vinyl Records-3rd Edition" by Neil Antin. It is a free pdf and the results for me are amazing. No need for an ultrasonic if you are willing to do manual cleaning. Weird, I find it fun.
@vrsimha
11 ай бұрын
Expensive. Good things don't come cheap
@beetleything1864
10 ай бұрын
aye carumba !!! thing costs 2.5 times my turntable - ah no thanks !
@CrazyAboutVinylRecords
6 ай бұрын
This will probably piss off people who spent $3,000 on the original.
@tg6373
Жыл бұрын
7:14 PG tips?
@soundmatters
Жыл бұрын
Haha! Absolutely not! Loose leaf tea in a pot or bust 😅
@nicola6323
2 ай бұрын
I think having discovered your channel is going to have a significant impact on my wallet… 😂
@soundmatters
2 ай бұрын
Haha! Uh oh! 🎶🎧
@1964wingman
Жыл бұрын
Far to expensive here in Australia. Retail $5000 au dollars. No wife acceptance
@soundmatters
Жыл бұрын
Convincing the wife is always a tricky one 😅
@custardpie69
11 ай бұрын
That's a lot of money matey
@SgtMjr
6 ай бұрын
Kirmuss is half the price and does a better job.
@soundmatters
6 ай бұрын
Cool. Glad it's working for you
@myles7522
Жыл бұрын
Far to expensive for my household….rather spend it on vinyl….
@jimmyjazz4605
Жыл бұрын
The price tag is a fucking joke.
@matthewtaylor7355
Жыл бұрын
Degritter more audio elitism at 2500GBP.. Some ubers have said it is no better than spincleen.. Surface noise no better
@ChrisMag100
Жыл бұрын
As an owner of both a Mk1 and up until recently, a spin clean and Kirmuss machine, I’ll say the spin clean is a good value but isn’t anywhere near as convenient or effective. The Kirmuss is very good but it’s more of a hassle to use unless you’re dedicating time to clean a large number of records. The Kirmuss can do multiple records and has a much larger water volume than the Degritter, meaning the water temp heats up more slowly. The Kirmuss and machines like it are loud. It’s difficult to be in the same room unless you wear ear protection. The Degritter is straightforward. Drop in a record, start the machine and come back in 12 minutes or so. This makes cleaning newly acquired records a quick and easy process unless you’re going to use two water tanks and a surfactant/rinse process.
@matthewtaylor7355
11 ай бұрын
@@ChrisMag100 It's not a performative issue.. Degritter made no difference on pops and clicks... The records were tested bfor and after using computer softerware.. Not subjective salesmen telling us its better. No noise cancellation.. The video is on utbe
@kaymanul
10 ай бұрын
@@matthewtaylor7355in life anything can be biased. Get a damaged record and there's no way to make it better with cleaning, whatever cleaning that might be. The claim that absolutely any record would be better is obviously not true. On the other hand, get a dirty record and the improvement is quite obvious (even with software based comparison as sometimes these records get to be ripped to DSD). There's also a matter of procedure, but I won't get into it. I could show whatever I would want and make people believe any of the two. Because it's possible. Been seeing hundreds of records and rarely there's no improvement, but it is possible nonetheless. Also, unfortunately, even a quality industry standard machine would be about the same price if ultrasonic capabilities are around 80-120, not to mention the extra gear. So this method is very expensive business that would pay for itself over a very long period of time and, most importantly, many records later. It is what it is, options are available, people can pick whatever side and go with it. Bottom line, nothing beats this application even if it won't fix broken things (or not being as straightforward as it is believed to be as I've seen results often enough only after an initial cleaning with ~40kHz that Degritter can't actually do and the other way around with different products that won't go higher and all just adds to the final price, making it stupid expensive for a home user no matter how anyone would look at it).
@mikem4432
3 ай бұрын
Great commercial with little actual value to backup the claim it is the 'best' vynl record cleaner. however.. it is the most expensive marketing hyped product that is NO BETTER than an ebay or amazon no name ultrasonic cleaner for about 100$.
@papabear1417
10 күн бұрын
You always look as if the camera is situated too high. Not a good look.
@soundmatters
8 күн бұрын
I’m happy to take constructive criticism, but not from those just bringing pure negativity. Jog on mate.
@ptrickgraves5883
5 ай бұрын
that is a stupid price...
@pedroloreto2751
8 ай бұрын
This is for wealthy audiophiles pervs. Totaly over priced. Of course the built quality is super good, but you can have good results hand cleaning and if you don’t have time for this cheaper machines as humming guru. If you can deal with minimum scratch and plocs go to streaming and flac files!
@faludabutt8253
5 ай бұрын
How come it’s all-in-one? There is no after rinse mechanism to remove chemicals used in the bath
@soundmatters
5 ай бұрын
You can, if you wish, purchase a second tank and use the optional “rinse” step with just distilled water.
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