Ted Forbes on The art of Photography has a good video about c41 developing without a sous vide or water heater. He had the water at 41 degrees celsius. It worked fine for him. So you can skip the water heater, if you want to save money. Thank you for an excellent tutorial!
@OriginalTLab3000
4 ай бұрын
Water first, always! First, put at least most of the water needed into the bottle. Then add the chemicals in the right order. Ideally, you would completely dissolve one chemical before you add another. Great video, thank you! But... water first! 🚰🥼
@wichersham
3 жыл бұрын
Wow, this looks much easier than I thought! Thank you for this informative video!
@KarinMajoka
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, hope it helps people to give it a try! :)
@brandonjernigan7610
3 жыл бұрын
Your calm demeanor totally made me feel at ease about the idea of developing at home. Nice job!
@KarinMajoka
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Brandon, glad this was helpful! :)
@mrsamsa
3 жыл бұрын
Favourited cos this is the most comprehensive no-nonsense guide I've seen so far
@pg-l4469
3 ай бұрын
Tysm! Developing colour for the first time in the next few days. So happy to see such an encouraging explainer!
@Nearest_Neighbor
3 жыл бұрын
Great explanation! And thank you for mentioning the importance of handling the used chemicals, that's so important! I'm looking forward to develop c41 myself but first I want to get comfortable enough with b&w. I found some 20 years or so old undeveloped color rolls from my parents and really want to develop them by my own. They were stored horrible. This is gonna be a challenge.
@KarinMajoka
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your comment, I appreciate it! I think it’s a good idea to get a routine with b&w developing first, since that can be a bit more forgiving. Oh wow, that sounds like a challenge for sure, but like an interesting one. I have no idea how you would process already exposed rolls that old - maybe overdeveloping would do the job? 🤔 let me know how it went! :)
@IndustriasHachinosu
11 ай бұрын
For some reason I always assumed that it would be radically different to processing B&W, but its quite similar! Thank you now I feel the confidence to try it myself
@39exposures
9 ай бұрын
BW is a bit more relaxed process if I can say so :)
@martinfoot1182
6 ай бұрын
Thanks for the calm and clear video! I've done this before multiple times, but some time ago and I wanted a refresher! The difference for me is that my film is 8mm * 11mm Minox film, and instead of mixing 1L, I need 53ml to fill the whole Minox dev tank. I'm measuring my chemistry with a syringe!
@PhilKnall
3 жыл бұрын
I have zero intention to develop my own film but i just gotta watch that Karin content!
@KarinMajoka
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Phil, much appreciated ☺️
@kmreddy-du2lb
Жыл бұрын
Trust me this is by far most simplest & beautiful method. Love it.
@KarinMajoka
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for your comment! :)
@farahlieten7698
3 жыл бұрын
The best video on this subject I found, very well explained!
@germex5366
2 жыл бұрын
Excellent, mystery solved ! and i have a sous vide bath at home already. Thanks a million
@Viniter
2 жыл бұрын
Every now and again I start looking into doing C41 myself, but then look at the prices of these kits and promptly snap out of it. Main reason I develop my black and white film is that it's economical. With C41, even if I managed to get all 16 rolls out of the kit (which is hard because I don't shoot all that much colour film and I wouldn't be able to sit on my rolls for half a year) I would still only save like 1 euro per roll compared to having it machine developed in the store down the street. And considering that a roll of Portra costs like 18 euros these days, with the added risk of messing it up, I just can't find a way to justify that.
@markandrewhoran
7 ай бұрын
Thank You!! What a great instructional video. This is such a big help for a newbie like me when it comes to developing film. Thanks again!
@pushingfilm
3 жыл бұрын
What appropriate timing! I just switched from only ever using the Unicolor powder kit to getting a Tetenal kit to try 🙂 Beautifully done, I'm sure many people will find this helpful 👍
@81springbrook96
3 жыл бұрын
Did u find the results different?
@pushingfilm
3 жыл бұрын
@@81springbrook96 I haven't actually developed anything with it yet! But I'll be interested to see if there's much difference
@KarinMajoka
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Hashem, appreciate it! And I would be sooo curious to hear about your experience after using both, powder and liquid developer and would love to know which one you prefer. :)
@ZisisKardianos
3 жыл бұрын
Very well presented and to the point. I started developing C41 six months ago and I'm getting much better results than the lab's. Only problem is that I didn't have enough rolls to develop in a sort time and the developer got exhausted in about 3 months and 6 rolls. Now for the second bunch, I only made 1/2L working solution and kept the other half undiluted. Also I have realised that extending the development for only 5 to 10" after the first couple of rolls, it doesn't harm and on the contrary you get a little bit denser negative.
@KarinMajoka
3 жыл бұрын
That's clever! I would be interested to see how long the undiluted batch will be good. Are you using protection gas or something else to keep it air tight? That might help to improve a longer shelf live. I usually bulk up on some C41 film to develop before mixing up my chemicals. Once I have 6-10 rolls collected I do the first round of developing, since it's pretty likely that I will collect another 10 rolls within 3 months.
@ZisisKardianos
3 жыл бұрын
@@KarinMajoka I used protection gas for the first time on the undiluted developer in all three bottles, I'm curious to see if it works. The bottles are 100ml as you know but I didn't manage to find smaller 50ml bottles to store them air-tight. Keep up with your great vlog. By the way, I use a Bronica ETRSi as well :) among others.
@KarinMajoka
3 жыл бұрын
@@ZisisKardianos Fingers crossed it will work out, but it sounds pretty promising! I have not tried protection gas yet, but I always squeeze the air out of the bottles as much as possible and think this worked alright for me. Awesome, love to hear about more Bronica shooters out there - have fun shooting! :)
@ralph4840
9 ай бұрын
Good job! Best explanation for C41 on the internet.
@JayRegular
3 жыл бұрын
the black udder experience caught on camera! xD thankyou for this Karin, will come back to this video one day when I take the dive into developing my own films!
@KarinMajoka
3 жыл бұрын
I wanted to edit it out but then I was like - however traumatised I will make my watchers, the black udder has to stay in hahah. Thank you Jay, hope you will enjoy the process once you give it a try. :)
@39exposures
9 ай бұрын
What a lovely guide. Thanks for recording it! I'm developing BW for some time already but looking now at C-41 🤔
@analogshooter
3 жыл бұрын
One of the best videos about developing color film.
@KarinMajoka
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much, glad the video was helpful. :)
@ohjajohh
3 жыл бұрын
Thnx for the tip of putting a tiny but of film on the spool at the beginning
@jhogan54321
Жыл бұрын
Karin. Simply magical... one of the best presentations I've seen. Thanks a million
@carlesaraguz
3 жыл бұрын
Lovely video!! I've had the same Tetenal kit waiting in my shelf for a couple of weeks because of a kind of anxiety when I think about temperature control. I had this and so many other questions before your video. I was even wondering whether the kitchen temperature controller would work. And now... you just released this and tackled all my doubts and hesitations. Thanks for holding my hands!! BTW, I'm so loving your office background. Super pretty, cool and well illuminated.
@KarinMajoka
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for your comment, Carles! I can totally relate, the anxiety of doing something wrong surely stays for the first couple of rolls - but luckily then quickly fades away. :) Good luck with your first tries, I am sure it will work out just fine! And thank you, usually my desk is more chaotic off camera and not as tidy haha, but I also like this space a lot.
@garonkiesel1646
3 жыл бұрын
I process my C-41 film stand developed for 45 minutes (Dev time) at room temperature and get wonderful results. I also do the same with ECN-2 processing.
@KarinMajoka
3 жыл бұрын
Interesting! I might give that a try one day, thanks for sharing. :)
@caylandia
5 ай бұрын
I am so glad you made this video
@Mrtareshi
3 жыл бұрын
Just bought the exact same kit yesterday ! Great video :)
@KarinMajoka
3 жыл бұрын
What a coincidence! :) and thank you!
@inpictured
Жыл бұрын
40 years of thinking it’s undoable at home 🤦🏻♂️ Thanks for clear tutorial 😊
@KarinMajoka
Жыл бұрын
Interesting how these misconceptions hold up. C41 is luckily not as much of black magic as people assume :)
@AlexOnStreets
3 жыл бұрын
Keep holding my hand Karin.. im still developing Black and While using my Cinestill df96 monobath and the lab box.. I am super grateful for your tutorial. I will actually follow your steps in the future. In the very future.. I'm so scared >_
@KarinMajoka
3 жыл бұрын
You have already managed the absolute hardest part which is: getting started. Once you have successfully developed a couple of rolls of b&w, c41 is no challenge anymore! :) Looking forward to your developer comparison video, Alex!
@JamilTokmaji
3 жыл бұрын
Hey Karin! Jimmy here from CrunchyFingers, I just watched your 4x5 video and you mentioned that you couldn’t develop your shots because you don’t have the required equipment. I don’t know if you know about the taco 🌮 method. But basically you take the plastic reels out from your Paterson tank, but keep the center column, in the dark bag bend your 4x5 sheets like a taco **emulsion side in** and use a rubber band around the outside to keep the shape.. that way you can fit 4 sheets at a time. You might feel a bit of resistance when you put the seal back on but it’s normal.. Finally you’re gonna need to over fill the tank (800-1000ml for the 2x135 tank) and develop as usual 😉👍🏼
@KarinMajoka
3 жыл бұрын
Hey Jimmy, sorry for the late reply. Thanks so much for your comment, that was super useful! I have heard about the "taco method" before but did not know you could do it without any external devices. I thought you would always have to have some sort of "inlay" for the tank, but the way you described it with the rubber bands makes total sense and sounds fairly simple. Guess I could give that a try if I ever get in touch with another large format camera again. :)
@joakeemgaston91
3 жыл бұрын
Never been this early! So excited to learn from your experiences!
@KarinMajoka
3 жыл бұрын
Yaaay! I hope it will be helpful to some. :)
@JonathanHeresOficial
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for such an amazing video. I will be developing for the first time soon and this helped so much!
@KarinMajoka
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, I am glad it helped! Fingers crossed for your first development, I am sure it will turn out perfectly fine! :)
@guillaumebouqueau
3 жыл бұрын
I’ll start with black and white film first. Baby steps ;) Your video gave confidence in the process and that’s amazing. Thanks for this.
@KarinMajoka
3 жыл бұрын
That is a good idea, b&w is a bit more forgiving when it comes to temperatures and a good starting point. Have fun and good luck with your first rolls! :)
@andyvan5692
2 жыл бұрын
good video, says alot about the c-41 process, but this is a simple one; the others look hard, as they are designed for special film stocks, they have lots of parts because if you research into it, colour film has multiple layers of dyes, some for each of RED, Green & Blue, some even do UV spectrum. so each step first develops, fixes, washes, then removes the "safety" layer, in prep to develop the next layer of salts, which portray each colour on the film, and each one must be handled sequentially; and if you are doing sheet film, for LF cameras, they have an "anti-halation" layer on the non-emulsion side , this stops light reflecting off of the metal septum(centre of the holder) of the LF film holder, causing CA, and glare/star patterns on the film, this also must be removed, another reason for the pre-wash step.
@eugenedebruin3694
4 ай бұрын
Thank you, clear explanation!
@juanfranciscomartinmarquez9720
3 жыл бұрын
Hola Karin. Me ha encantado tu video. Hace tiempo que no revelo películas. Pero cuando comencé, lo hice con Tetenal C41. Con el último KIT pude recelar hasta 14 películas (ILFORD, KODAK, FUJIFILM, 35mm y 120) siempre de 2 en 2. No importa que mezcles los fabricantes. Yo no uso calentador todo el tiempo, solo es crítico la temperatura del revelador el resto son mas flexibles. Pero aquí, en el sur de España las temperaturas son cálidas y el baño no se enfría rápido. Suelo revelar TETEMAL a 30ºC es más tranquilo (no tengo prisa). Por cierto yo revelo exactamente como tu lo haces en el video. Pero la agitación (mover la película) debes de hacerlo en los dos sentidos para evitar que arrastres residuos cuando el revelador se va agotando. Por otra parte puedes mezclar los residuos del revelador y el fijador para que se neutralicen y añadirle hidróxido de cal (se utiliza mucho en la construcción para cementos blandos) y mucha agua. De este modo dejan de ser peligrosos para manipularlos y depositarlo en contenedores de residuos. Ojo la cal hace daño en la piel de algunas personas pero no el hidróxido. Me gustaría saber el post proceso que sigues después del revelado de la película. Animo, sigue a sin.
@KarinMajoka
3 жыл бұрын
My Spanish is pretty rusty, so I will be answering in English and hope that is alright. Thanks so much for your comment, I appreciate it a lot! It's good to mention to agitate in both directions to avoid residue dragging, I forgot to mention that in the video. I have not done a lot or research on how to "neutralise" chemicals so they are safe to dispose in the sink, but you made me curious to find out some more. I might consider doing a video on my scanning process, thanks for the idea. :)
@juanfranciscomartinmarquez9720
3 жыл бұрын
@@KarinMajoka Hola Karin. Siento no haberme expresado mejor. Si neutralizas los químicos con hidróxido de cal, no debes arrojarlos al desagüe o al fregadero. Tendrías serios problemas en las tuberías. Porque se convierte en una pasta muy espesa, con el tiempo se convierte en una piedra dura de cal. Sólo consiste en neutralizarlos, para que en caso de salpicaduras por accidente no hagan daño. Pero si usas grandes cantidades debes tirarlo a contenedores de residuos químicos, pero neutralizados es mejor. Ojo, algunos residuos fotográficos tienen procesos de restauración (blanco y negro). Si se añade cal no se pueden tratar. Es mejor preguntar.
@danthor45
3 жыл бұрын
This is what i need. I have a kit and 25 film just waiting for me. And for 4 months ive been scared to start and fail
@GroupieImp64
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much! You have shown me this is relatively straightforward :D
@EdwardIglesias
3 жыл бұрын
Okay, merch idea, a stuffed hand with an integrated thermometer so you can "hand hold" during developing. Extra points if on squeezing it plays "I wanna hold your hand" though licensing a Beatles song might get expensive.
@KarinMajoka
3 жыл бұрын
Oh my god, this is absolutely brilliant and it would surely come in "handy" hahha
@wishbon77
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you that's just what I needed. Thank you thank you!
@KarinMajoka
3 жыл бұрын
Glad this was helpful. Thanks a lot :)
@marxoniomizu
3 жыл бұрын
Nice video, since I shoot way more black&white I was a bit concious about the shelf life of the mixed chemicals, so I only mixed the chemicals for half a liter and stored the rest under some protection gas, hopefully this works out. Good note on the environmental impact. Thanks for sharing.
@KarinMajoka
3 жыл бұрын
That's a pretty good tip, thanks for sharing! :) protection gas is something I should also get my hands on one day. I think only mixing half of the chemicals works well with liquids, but with powder chemicals (I use XTOL for b&w for example which comes in a 5l powder kit) it is not advisable though, since the ingredient mixture in the powder might be spread unevenly.
@JamieMPhoto
3 жыл бұрын
Great walkthrough! I hope it helps people give this a try, because it only gets easier from the start. :)
@KarinMajoka
3 жыл бұрын
Exactly, after the first roll is done, the most stressful part is checked off and it get's easier every time. Thank you, Jamie! :)
@cynthiawk
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this video! I just used the guide to develop my first film ever !
@KarinMajoka
3 жыл бұрын
Yaaaay! Congrats on your development! :) glad this was helpful
@NoSky84
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot Karin for that. But some photo examples of this development would be nice :D
@KarinMajoka
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! :) that’s some good feedback! I was debating whether or not to include examples of the development, since ultimately the scan creates most of the „look“. But most of my film is self developed and scanned, so any video of mine you watch will include „examples“ of this development method :)
@Shiekaaah
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this Karin!
@HerfingPug
2 жыл бұрын
Gold. Thank you.
@LorenzoEvangelisti
7 ай бұрын
However, in the booklet the pre-heating must not be done in a water bath, only the tank must be heated (also with hot air if desired)
@graemelever-naylor6721
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Karin. Very helpful and to the point.
@johncooper5482
3 жыл бұрын
Excellent video especially as you emphasized increasing development tines as you reused the chemicals. I used a similar heater to you but was surprised that set at 39C , the water was actually 44C. Invested in a simple digital thermometer, and now set heater to 35 C and get water temp of 39C. Seems not all of these heaters are accurate!
@mindluuuk
3 жыл бұрын
I needed this! Thanks Karin, great video as always! :)
@KarinMajoka
3 жыл бұрын
Awesome, glad this was helpful! :)
@neitofoto620
3 жыл бұрын
Amazing tutorial! Thank you for making this video! Will definitely use it as reference when I develop my color film :D
@KarinMajoka
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! And let me know how your first experience went with color developing if you want to. :)
@GameofKnowing
3 жыл бұрын
This is a really awesome video! I'd love to see B/W and E6 videos, too.
@KarinMajoka
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you, I appreciate it! I have never processed E6 myself (because I simply shoot it to rarely), but I will consider a video like this for b&w developing as well! :) however, b&w is not as standardised as C41 developing, so it might make sense to takle each b&w developer individually.
@marxoniomizu
3 жыл бұрын
@@KarinMajoka for b/w developing it is probably more like every film/developer combination. I guess we just have to find you an irresistible offer of 50 rolls with expired slide film to get you into using it more :-)
@Larpy1933
9 ай бұрын
Excellent. Thanks!
@ManCalledMif
Жыл бұрын
Very helpful video. Thank you.
@StuartRomulus
3 жыл бұрын
I recently got a c41 cinestill set, and although I'm confident enough with the developing, I'm still too scared to use my colour film! Always end up thinking the trip out won't be good enough to warrant a £12 roll, I'll stick with the Ilford. I'll try to pluck up the courage soon! Love the videos!
@KarinMajoka
3 жыл бұрын
Trust me, I have been there and the first roll is scaaaaary as hell! What helped me was to try it out with a super unimportant test-roll for the first time, so even if it would not work out, I would not be too sad about it. And once you managed to develop the first roll, it will get easier - I promise. :)
@StuartRomulus
3 жыл бұрын
@@KarinMajoka I got a box of 400h in 120 and I think I'm being way too precious about it, and the purple box looks really nice in the refrigerator... I might pick up some colour plus and just have some fun with a point and shoot for the first roll! (Getting a weird pull towards ektar 100 at the minute, though, I might have to indulge that too)
@lunaartemis5511
2 жыл бұрын
Why has no one thought of doing that with the film retriever/spiral earlier!
@futureretro656
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for the comprehensive guide, I'm planning to develop my own film soon and this video helps me built up my courage. My question is, do I need to wash the film at 38°C water after the blix?
@KarinMajoka
2 жыл бұрын
Awesome that you are giving it a try! :) You do not have to be as precise with the washing temperature, between 30 and 40 degrees are recommended.
@vasyapupken
3 жыл бұрын
for me there is two main reasons against color developing at home: 1. С41 chemicals expires very quickly so you need to collect your films for batch processing. developing 1 or 2 films is just waste of materials (unlike BW). 2. C41 chemicals are much more harmful than BW dev. when with BW you are safe unless you drink solution or inhale dry concentrate, with C41 even slight vapor from tank can harm you.
@KarinMajoka
3 жыл бұрын
I can totally understand that, especially since it’s cheap to develop C41 at a lab and it’s valid to ask if it’s worth the hustle to do it at home. And about the second point you are right that it’s super important to stay cautious. I think people even underestimate how toxic some cleaning supplies can be, since some are even more toxic than developing chemicals.
@b6983832
Жыл бұрын
1. No, they don´t. Kodak and Fuji are extremely conservative when giving any times for shelf lives of chemistry. A mixed and used C-41 developer will keep at least two months in a closed bottle. 2. Not actually. Bleach will stain, but it is not very toxic. Color developers are as harmful as classic B&W developers, such as Rodinal or HC-110. Fixer is basically the same as in B&W. Some earlier processes, such as K-14 (for Kodachrome), C-22 (predecessor of C-41, used before 1974) and Cibachrome had some irritant and dangerous to the environment chemicals. These processes have been discontinued years ago.
@jacekszymanski7857
Жыл бұрын
great video!!! Thanks for sharing :)
@seralegre
2 жыл бұрын
cinestill c41 works even at 22C. Anyway the problem I found in c41 is that only last 2 months or so open, so that means you have to develop 16-20 rolls in that time. I dont shoot that much colour film...
@b6983832
Жыл бұрын
It kind of works. Negatives will have the wrong colors, are out of all standards, but can be corrected up to a point with digital post production. If you want to print in a darkroom, steer clear of CineStills, and all other "simplified" kirs for color film. Use the standard process with a separate bleach and fix, in temperatures recommended by the manufacturer. (37,8°C being the standard temperature, and time being 3:15).
@Dangoldmedia
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@captainbackflash
3 жыл бұрын
Ich habe mir auch schon vor einigen Monaten ein c41 Kit gekauft, habe nur noch keine Gelegenheit gehabt Filme damit zu entwicken. Neulich habe ich drei Filme gefunden, von denen ich hoffe, das auf einem Fotos mit Brighitte Mira von einer Presse Konferenz in Berlin sind, die ich seit Jahren vermisst habe.
@KarinMajoka
3 жыл бұрын
Das hat sich bestimmt angefühlt wie Weihnachten und Geburtstag zusammen einen lange vergessenen Film wieder zu finden, oder? 😬 dann mal viel Erfolg beim entwickeln, ich hoffe die vermissten Bildern sind mit drauf!
@RadianFilms64
3 жыл бұрын
Very good tutorial and video. Thank you!
@KarinMajoka
3 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful, thanks a lot for the comment :)
@GabrielLima-ui9mo
3 жыл бұрын
I'll try to develop b&w film for the first time (i'm really scared about the loading part and the drying part) I hope it comes out alright... Hopefully, with time i'll also develop c41
@KarinMajoka
3 жыл бұрын
In this video I do not go in depth about the loading part, since it is a bit specific to the developing tank used. But there are plenty of great videos explaining this part in detail. Good luck with your first rolls! :)
@GabrielLima-ui9mo
3 жыл бұрын
@@KarinMajoka btw i was really nervous about it, but it turned out alright! only some photos (like 3) didnt look that great... Anyway, I'll try developing c41 sometime... Since I have MANY rolls at home (and i want to cut developing costs) Idk if u know anything about this, but could u maybe do a video on remjet and motion picture film?
@NordicLab
3 жыл бұрын
Cool manual!
@KarinMajoka
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you ✌🏼
@bulletsie
3 жыл бұрын
Very nice video! I'm 45 and have had a camera since I was 10. When I was a teenager I loved developing BW film and had my own darkroom, but I was never brave enough to try C41 colour film and even more scary still would be to try Sides with the narrow exposure window. When I did B&W processing I was sloppy with temps and rough variations were very forgiving, Colour I was always afraid to try. From your video looks like at some point I'll need to buy something for temp control.
@KarinMajoka
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I totally understand, C41 can be really intimidating in the beginning. But I can assure you: even though color film development is less forgiving than black and white, a little bit of sloppiness won’t ruin color film completely either :)
@KarinMajoka
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I totally understand, C41 can be really intimidating in the beginning. But I can assure you: even though color film development is less forgiving than black and white, a little bit of sloppiness won’t ruin color film completely either :)
@KarinMajoka
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I totally understand, C41 can be really intimidating in the beginning. But I can assure you: even though color film development is less forgiving than black and white, a little bit of sloppiness won’t ruin color film completely either :)
@KarinMajoka
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I totally understand, C41 can be really intimidating in the beginning. But I can assure you: even though color film development is less forgiving than black and white, a little bit of sloppiness won’t ruin color film completely either :)
@KarinMajoka
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I totally understand, C41 can be really intimidating in the beginning. But I can assure you: even though color film development is less forgiving than black and white, a little bit of sloppiness won’t ruin color film completely either :)
@richiedean7353
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!!!
@haymobachmaier
2 жыл бұрын
Super erklärt. Wielange hält dein angesetzter Blix? Meiner fängt öfters an auszuflocken wenn ich mal 1-2 Wochen keinen Film entwickle..
@raulslorencis158
Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@TheBigNegative-PhotoChannel
3 жыл бұрын
oh self-develop is so great.😀 A great summary. Also great that you collect the extra chemicals to have them disposed of. environmental awareness is so crucial nowadays.👍 Do you actually feel more connected to your images when you develop them yourself? Do the chemicals actually "go bad" if you only develop, say, one roll a week?
@KarinMajoka
3 жыл бұрын
It's a lot of fun! That's such an interesting question about the feeling of connectedness. Somehow I don't as much with color film, since it's a standardised process and there is not so much of a creative choice. But with b&w I do feel more connected since I have to choose which developer will produce the look I am aiming for. The chemicals have a "shelf life" which differs, I think the dev goes bad pretty quickly (6 or 8 weeks or so?), but Blix and Stab are even good for up to half a year. I can't remember if I asked that already, but have you developed our own film before? :)
@TheBigNegative-PhotoChannel
3 жыл бұрын
@@KarinMajoka No, unfortunately not yet. I tell myself every time I see a development video that I definitely want to start. Somehow I have not yet done the last step. However, if most of the chemicals anyway only last 8 weeks is probably rather wasteful.🤔 I would probably rather start B&W with the cinestill monobath. I hope it simply an even stronger bond to the images and work you create.
@kevinlack5634
3 жыл бұрын
Excellent tutorial video Karin :) I liked the tip on the pre-wash cycle to bring the film and tank up to the correct processing temperature and more importantly the tip about the correct disposal of the exhausted colour chemicals :) A question: did you wash the tank stirrer rod after using it to agitate the Dev and before using it again to agitate the Blix? I don’t know how sensitive these particular chemicals are to cross contamination but If you didn’t clean the tank stirrer rod between chemicals (e.g. using clean water) it may possibly cause an issue with later rolls in the life of that particular batch of Dev and Blix.
@KarinMajoka
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Kevin, I appreciate your comment! I think it’s super important to stay responsible and make sure to dispose of chemicals correctly, so I wanted to include that. And it’s good that you mention the film stirrer, since that can be a source of cross-contamination! I wash the stirrer and the funnels in-between every time (not visible in the video though) and make sure everything is clean before it comes in contact with different chemicals. :)
@zz-kn3nj
2 жыл бұрын
Hi, thanks for the impressive tutorial! I watched your vids several times already to make sure I understand it all before my first development! Anyway how many times the kit can be used again? Is there any limited amount of time and rolls that can be used with this kit?
@borasao3329
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing, Tetenal C41 Colortec Neg kit 1L, how many rolls in a 1L maximum of film develoope?
@oON1cEOo
Жыл бұрын
Just developed my first roll. Your guidance video was super helpful :) But i still have one question about the water wash after the blix do you recommend to also collect this water since its probably mixed with a little bit of blix or does the blix not have any affects to the water?
@randallstewart175
Жыл бұрын
Put the wash water down the normal drain. The amount of blix there in is trivial to the sewer system. Frankly, the raw blix could be handled the same way, as the amount involved would have zero impact on the sewer system. Same for the developer. The real issue over wash water is that most people and videos show a lack of adequate washing of the film.
@b6983832
Жыл бұрын
@@randallstewart175 True. That said, some European countries, such as Germany, have extremely strict laws considering the disposal of chemical waste. What you say, is 100% true, but it can be technically illegal to do so. I live in Lithuania, and have never asked anybody about the rules of disposal. Nobody really cares, unless you are running a professional lab, where the amounts are much larger. Also, water is not an issue here, and I will wash all my films in running water. No Ilford washes for me!
@NicolasGENTYPRISCAL
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the very clear explanation. The "sous-vide" system seems to be a great alternative to the CineStill TCS ! Could you comment the instructions on the specific part with making a stop bath. When do you place it ? After or before the Bleach-Fix bath ? Also, they indicate a limitation of 3 rolls/liter when developping ISO400 or higher. Could you comment that limitation based on your experience ? Thanks for your feedback !
@KarinMajoka
2 жыл бұрын
In C41 development you do not need to use a classic "stop-bath" as you do in black and white development. The wash between the Blix and the Stab serves as some sort of stop bath to get rid of the rest of the blix but you can simply use regular tab water for that or use distilled water for the final wash. What do you mean with the limitation? I am not sure if I understand your question correctly. How many rolls you can develop in one go depends on the capacity of the developing tank you are using. And since you can reuse the chemicals you can use them for multiple rounds of developing. I do not remember the exact number that is mentioned in the manual, but I think tetenal is recommending 12-16 rolls with one 1l kit, in my experience you can even go a bit more often though.
@deathstar9812
2 жыл бұрын
1:00 i am actually really just shortly before developing the first time :D
@suhaylazan9711
2 жыл бұрын
Great video
@KarinMajoka
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! :)
@PrinzGreg
3 жыл бұрын
Hey Karin, ist es notwendig destilliertes Wasser auch zum Waschen des Films zu benutzen? Oder reicht in diesem Fall Leitungswasser?:) Vielen Dank für das tolle Video!
@KarinMajoka
3 жыл бұрын
Freut mich, dass das Video hilfreich war! :) Ich mache in der Regel ganz am Ende nach dem Stab noch zwei kurz Waschdurchgänge mit destilliertem Wasser. Ich habe bisher gute Erfahrungen damit gemacht, ich hab aber auch schon von anderen gehört, das sie entweder gar nicht mehr am Ende waschen oder Leitungswasser nehmen (wobei hier die Gefahr für Wasserflecken auf dem Film höher ist).
@PrinzGreg
3 жыл бұрын
@@KarinMajoka Vielen Dank für die schnelle und hilfreiche Antwort!
@pirrax
2 жыл бұрын
Hi. Thanks so much for your video. I do have a simple question. All the wash and pre-wash is done also with destiled water? If so, how you do to optimise the amount of destiled water used? Thanks so much
@KarinMajoka
2 жыл бұрын
No, I only used distilled water for mixing the chemicals and also for the final wash. All other washes are done by using regular tap water :)
@CsigerVintagelab
2 жыл бұрын
Super Video, very helpfull, thx!
@KarinMajoka
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot for your comment! :)
@nala34
Жыл бұрын
Once it's mixed how long can you keep the bottles ? Is it for one use only and then you have to buy all the chemicals again ? thank you :)
@freddiemeinertzhagen
7 ай бұрын
How long do the chemicals last before they expire? Do they still work after they've expired?
@alexander.starbuck
3 жыл бұрын
Great and informative video! Just a quick one: you have shown that only developer was used while the tank was immersed in water. Does this mean that the tank with other two chemicals do not have to be immersed or is it better to do it all submerged in the water? :)
@KarinMajoka
3 жыл бұрын
Hey, thanks for your question! I am not sure if I understand it correctly though, could you elaborate what you mean? All three chemicals (DEV, BLIX and STAB) have to be heated up to the right temperature and should therefore be immersed in the water bath. After you used them you could either put them back into the water bath if you plan on developing more rolls or leave them out and let them cool down if you are finished.
@TimRex
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this useful video! Do you know what the shelf life of the tetenal kit is? Any advice on where and how to store the chemicals?
@KarinMajoka
3 жыл бұрын
The shelf life depends on how you store your chemicals, but if I remember correctly it should be something around 6-12 weeks maybe? Best way to store is dark, cold and airtight. I always squeeze as much air out of the bottles as possible, but there is also a special gas you can buy to make the bottles more airtight.
@TimRex
3 жыл бұрын
@@KarinMajoka thank you so much!
@thomaslarsen5057
2 жыл бұрын
Thanx for sharing. Have you tried to use ordinary water?
@nicoleshipman304
2 жыл бұрын
Hi Karin! Thank you so much for this video! I have been scared and overwhelmed to try C-41 processing but thanks to your video, I'm going to try it! Question: is it okay to dispose of the "wash" water down the drain? (The tap water used to rinse out everything at the end).
@KarinMajoka
2 жыл бұрын
Hi Nicole, thanks so much for your comment, glad to hear you will be trying out C41 development for the first time. It's scary, yet a lot of fun. :) Regarding your question: I dispose my chemicals at a specific disposal center, but I also drain the water I used to wash my film down the drain. I assume that the amount of chemicals diluted in the wash water is small enough to be safe.
@labradorhund7769
3 жыл бұрын
Scannst du die Bilder dann selbst oder schickst du die Negative dann zu einem Labor? Ich entwickle meine s/w Filme selber und mache auch die Abzüge daheim. Aber die Vorstellung die Filme einzuspannen sagt mir leider gar nicht zu. (Ich habe aber keinen Scanner und denke mir immer die 200€ plus x für einen guten Scanner kann ich auch für Entwicklung + Scan zahlen und hab den Ärger nicht). Aber ich muss zugeben, das Entwickeln an sich sieht bei dir im Video nicht schlimmer aus als s/w.
@KarinMajoka
3 жыл бұрын
Ich scanne selber! Habe mit gebraucht einen Epson 500 für um die 50€ gekauft und bin soweit ganz zufrieden damit. Ich habe aber auch eine Dunkelkammer im Keller (leider wegen der Winter lange nicht mehr benutzt) und mache gelegentlich auch Abzüge in schwarz weiß. Ich kann also gut verstehen, dass scannen nicht jedermanns Sache ist, ich scanne eigentlich alles und selektiere dann nach dem scannen was es wert wäre zu drucken :)
@labradorhund7769
3 жыл бұрын
@@KarinMajoka Oh, das ist ein guter Deal. Vielleicht gibt es ja in der Zukunft mal ein Video zum Scannen? :D P.S.: Ich finde ja, dass es pure Magie ist, wenn sich das Positiv entwickelt. In der DuKa könnt ich Stunden verbringen :D
@jrancier92
2 жыл бұрын
why the instruccions that come with the chemicals says 8min for the developer? im so confused
@stevenpam
3 жыл бұрын
Fantastisch! Sofortiges Abb. 🙂
@KarinMajoka
3 жыл бұрын
Danke und herzlich willkommen! :)
@tycjantrzpiola
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this.
@KarinMajoka
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you. :)
@alanpods______8260
2 жыл бұрын
You are basically correct. If you get anything at all wrong in this process, your film and images will be totally ruined. It’s not easy at all. I’ve processed 3 films so far, following all instructions. They are all crappy.. :(
@KarinMajoka
2 жыл бұрын
Any idea on what could have gone wrong? :(
@alanpods______8260
2 жыл бұрын
@@KarinMajoka Ha ha! Yes, good question. I think I've now realised the problem might be that I *didn't* add the 'part 1', 'part 2' chemicals *to warmed distilled water* . Instead, I added 'part 1' and 'part 2', etc to each other, then added distilled water to the mixture (at outdoor garage temperature), which may have been too cold. The Tetenal instructions aren't very clear on exactly how to do this and, for me anyway, it was very easy to just read the mixing table in the booklet and assume the chems should be mixed together before dilution. They need to undertake an endothermic chemical reaction at the correct temperature and pH to actually make the developer chemistry, which wasn't clear to me. I'm using a water tank with sous vide, distilled water for every step, digital thermometer and Negative Lab Pro to transform my RAW scans from a Plustek 8100. This set-up should produce great images. Instead my colours are completely wonky and the emulsion side of each negative is covered in hundreds tiny white dots that I can't get rid of no matter what I try. I tried 30c first time around then 38c - which made thigs much worse! Three rolls of Portra 400 with holiday pictures pretty much ruined so far! I will give it one last go with new chemicals mixed correctly. If it doesn't work this time I guess home colour developing really isn't for me. I've got my workflow for B&W developing absolutely nailed, so this is really frustrating not to be able to do colour! Thanks for your reply! :)
@alanpods______8260
2 жыл бұрын
@@KarinMajoka A follow-up... I've now tried again with fresh Tetenal chemistry correctly mixed in warmed distilled water, followed by sous vide development at 30c, distilled water wash at end and Negative Lab Pro for raw scan conversion. The results are better, but still nowhere near as good as my trusted lab. Some shots from the film are okay, others have wonky over-saturated colours. Some frames have lots of tiny white dots on them. I've spent hours in Lightroom trying to straighten things out, but still can't get it 100%. It's really frustrating! A waste of time, a waste of film and all that creative energy taking shots that are now somewhat ruined! In short, I think colour development is not for me. I can only assume other people doing this are perhaps happy with slightly wonky colours? Or else they are somehow far better at doing all this! I can't figure out what I'm doing wrong, but the trouble with C41 is that any one of several steps in the process could be at fault. I guess there's a reason pro labs have all that expensive equipment, test strips and expertise. B&W is so easy compared to this.
@KarinMajoka
2 жыл бұрын
@@alanpods______8260 Sorry to hear about another frustrating experience! That's really unfortunate to hear. Especially since you used NLP and for me it give excellent results and incredibly nice color. Some follow up questions: did you develop your film at 30°? If yes you have to adjust the developing times, since the standard is 38°. Also, what do you use to scan in your images? A flatbed scanner or a DSLR/DSLM? Do you make sure to set the white balance of the film boarder before conversion with NLP? These were some of my thoughts about what could have been the issue. But it's hard to tell without seeing your results if the negativ itself is the problem or some steps of the process in scanning. If you want to you can send me an image of your negatives via mail or Instagram so we can see if the development or the scanning is the problem here. As I said everybody has different experiences, but the majority of what you see on my channel and my instagram was developed and scanned by myself and I am very happy with my results, so I am very sure it's possible to get usable results. :)
@alanpods______8260
2 жыл бұрын
@@KarinMajoka thanks so much Karin! I will send you an email of some negatives and scans, perhaps you can help me..? Your Instagram feed shows some amazing - and really well-developed images - so perhaps I really still did something wrong? I adjusted the developing times per the Tetenal instructions for 30c, 8 min dev, 6 min blix. White balance set from film border in LR before NLP conversion. I have a feeling something is off with the developed negatives though - the magenta and cyan layers really pop on the negs - and the corresponding green and red channels in the scanned image appear somewhat 'radioactive' in some shots.
@andyvan5692
2 жыл бұрын
Karin, in the materials list you forgot the doctors' prescription for the Tetenal ( for your ADHD) :-))
@KarinMajoka
2 жыл бұрын
I think I am just the opposite of ADHD haha
3 жыл бұрын
Can the bottles be just some regular transparent ones? Or do they have to be lightproof?
@KarinMajoka
3 жыл бұрын
In general it could be any type of bottles. But with transparent bottles the chemicals will exhaust more quickly, which is why I would recommend to stick to brown or darker ones.
@jcarter4073
3 жыл бұрын
Hello, just found your channel and enjoying the content. I was going to sell my old developing outfit but you have changed my mind. I will start to use it again. Just an idea, will there be a printing video in the future? B/W or colour printing. Printing can be as much an art as taking a photograph. Thank you for the video.
@KarinMajoka
3 жыл бұрын
Awesome, glad to heat that you changed your mind about developing! :) I am planning to also implement printing videos (solely black and white darkroom printing though, I have not printed color yet), but I am in the middle of re-organising my darkroom, which is why it will take some time to finally get to the point where I can make videos about it.
@markdodsworth5439
3 жыл бұрын
That's great... But. How do you stop the cat ruining it all ?
@KarinMajoka
3 жыл бұрын
Finally somebody asking the real questions haha. My cat ALWAYS jumps on my changing bag while I am loading film. ALWAYS.
@isuru_xyz
2 жыл бұрын
does someone know the temperature controller device's name? thank u
@KarinMajoka
2 жыл бұрын
I use a regular Sous Vide stick. You can also use a dedicated device such as the TCS by Cinestill.
@SunshineHB
2 жыл бұрын
Which film retriever is that? Thanks for the video!!
@KarinMajoka
2 жыл бұрын
It’s a super old one I found at a flea market, I cannot remember the brand, sorry!
@SunshineHB
2 жыл бұрын
@@KarinMajoka I bought the Matin version and it’s working perfectly so far. This step was what got me to finally go for developing using a bag at home. The thought of opening the canister blind was daunting. That being said, I have already had two rolls misfeed once in the bag and had to figure it out manually anyways. Wasn’t a big deal. Thank you!
@FreezerKing
3 жыл бұрын
Yes, I love a big bottle of STAB (ouch!)
@KarinMajoka
3 жыл бұрын
😬✌🏼
@arcarybuch8618
2 жыл бұрын
Do i need distilled water?
@mariathithuthaonguyen9667
3 жыл бұрын
Hey nice vid. How did you get the film in the tank. I didn't see it.
@KarinMajoka
3 жыл бұрын
Ahh, I see. I did not include it since it's technically really only putting the spool into the tank. But every brand works a bit differently when it comes to how to close it properly. With the Paterson tank you will have to make sure to close the top part until you hear a click, while this is not the case with the Jobo tank. Therefore I would advise you to research about your specific tank before doing your first development. :)
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