The reason why this works aa well as it does is Epson's unique floating feed, which can feed any size of media and automatically adjusts the printhead to compensate.
@ryobiguy1024
16 жыл бұрын
This is the legendary hacked printer from CNCZone. Nice to see it in action. BTW, nice riffy tune by the way, I think it's stuck in my head now!
@ChrisBit692002
13 жыл бұрын
This shit is sick and the music fits the modified printer set up.. ROCK ON!
@Elamin008
14 жыл бұрын
the best homemade method I ever seen in my live (5 stars)
@incubus1062
15 жыл бұрын
Another work around is to print the layout using a laser printer and feed the same sheet through the printer two or three times and use a hot iron to transfer the image to the pcb.
@epineh
16 жыл бұрын
Cheers, I have been thinking of posting a vid of the printer for a while, just never got round to doing it. The PCB I was printing in the vid is actually the H Bridge used in the H Bridge test video I posted recently, just some more usless trivia for ya >8) Yeah the song does get stuck into your head, welcome to my world :)
@epineh
13 жыл бұрын
@Hardwyre Well spotted, it is actually bits of the paper cloth I used to wipe the board dry, I only noticed it well after the vid was done and uploaded so I ran with it :)
@epineh
12 жыл бұрын
Hey, software I used here is Eagle, the free version - takes a little getting used to but has pretty good library files
@epineh
13 жыл бұрын
To be honest I had other music from a royalty free music site that was mostly unoffensive but it turns out they decided to start charging and lodged the music as copyrighted, so I just audio swapped via youtube, and figured that most PC's these days have volume control if someone didn't like the new track.
@epineh
15 жыл бұрын
Hey, I use the standard Durabrite inks that come with the printer, others use MISPRO inks but I have found the standard ink works fine. When I have had smudged prints it is usually the surface not being clean enough, or hot enough, try "scratching" the surface a little with a green kitchen scourer (lightly) and metho, then wipe the surface with a clean cloth and a little acetone, be careful not to touch the copper surface once it is clean.
@epineh
13 жыл бұрын
@hoarp001 This is the standard ink for that printer, a pigment based ink, other printers use dye based ink that won't work for a resist.
@epineh
14 жыл бұрын
You need to use a copper clad fibreglass board, most decent electronics type shops will stock this, the etchant can be re-used, it goes a bit stale after a while and a few uses, I only use a small amount at a time, just enough to swish around in a small plastic container and just cover the PCB.
@First2ner
16 жыл бұрын
laser printer method still looks easyer and faster, but nice job, very good results!
@epineh
16 жыл бұрын
The board needs to be preheated for the ink to print nicely, if it is too cold the print ends up all smudged. Magenta ink is the best resist, though I print a red colour that is a mix of all 4 colour's and it works fine.
@vjstudio3875
14 жыл бұрын
its like a mini etching factory
@nervrunna
10 жыл бұрын
Awesome music buddy :)
@epineh
14 жыл бұрын
Hi, the magenta is supposed to be the best color to act as a resist, though on my setup it seems to be made up of all the color's anyway. The baking cures the ink, otherwise it just sits on the copper and remains wet, even hours after printing. Cheers.
@epineh
14 жыл бұрын
Lol it is just a saying, basically the print is cured by a little heat after printing, otherwise the ink does not go hard and will wash off during etching :)
@epineh
13 жыл бұрын
@aeroductyl003 Not too sure, the printer needs to use a pigment based ink, as the dye based inks will wash off in the etch, I have heard of people using later model Epson's that need little modification to use, but not too sure of any details.
@dessieb123
12 жыл бұрын
hi great video, can i ask you how did you modify your printer? for it to take a 1.6mm thick piece of pcb material? and do you know of any other model printers that do the same job thanks
@shimmybmw
13 жыл бұрын
Hello. Can you tell me the temperature that heats the plate before and after printing. And time of cooking.
@EletronManiacos
11 жыл бұрын
It must to be a red color or this will work with black to?
@hydrolisk1792
13 жыл бұрын
Wow, this is freaking awsome and I'm going to do this :)
@xxwzaebd
15 жыл бұрын
After printing the PCB and etching, how do I make the throughholes without using throughhole pins?
@Diego4322237
10 жыл бұрын
hermano, usted es un genio. muchas gracias por la información! :)
@dumyyyyyy
13 жыл бұрын
Y prefer the transfer toner method with a laser printer and photo paper.Same good quality results!
@chickenpoper
14 жыл бұрын
could i use a regular copper sheet for the board..if not where could i get the copper sheet you used in this vid. plus could i re-use the etchant solution many times?like if i used some of the solution for a pcb could i reuse it, and reuse it many times?
@eduardflorescu6806
11 жыл бұрын
can you tell what kind of acid you used and what type of ink? regards
@JCasax
12 жыл бұрын
Does it work for any thickness of copper? (1, 2, 4 ounces)
@epineh
15 жыл бұрын
Yup the original Durabrite inks, I was going to use MISPRO but didnt need to.
@dessieb123
11 жыл бұрын
Hi once i have made the pcb and put green soldermask onto the pcb, do you think this method could print a legend on to the finished board? was thinking of using yellow colour for the legend
@hoarp001
13 жыл бұрын
This just normal printer ink or do you have to load the cartridge with etch resist or something?
@Hardwyre
13 жыл бұрын
At 4:13, you can see what looks like some pretty serious pitting.. is that just fuzz left over from wiping it off?
@epineh
14 жыл бұрын
@adisharr yeah, I tried a few times, it was always a bit out of alignment, the only way I got it to work was to print single sided top and bottom onto half thickness boards and glue them together.
@adisharr
14 жыл бұрын
Nicely done - is it difficult to do 2 sided boards with this method?
@epineh
14 жыл бұрын
No probs :) I suppose no method is perfect, this works well for my needs, but did take some fine tuning. I guess the easiest way is to just pay a board house to make them...but where is the fun in that ! :D
@AlienRelics
15 жыл бұрын
But that's still very cool, you've found a way to use an otherwise unsuitable ink. I'd love to see you join the Inkjet_PCB_Construction or the Homebrew_PCBs Yahoogroups and share this and how well it works. There is a possibility that, since the Lexmark black is pigmented, that you might be able to use the pigmented magenta meant for Epsons in the Lexmark black head.
@epineh
15 жыл бұрын
Also the PCB has to be hot enough that you can barely pick it up without gloves. Good Luck !
@adisharr
14 жыл бұрын
@epineh That's an interesting solution - thanks for the info.
@xxwzaebd
15 жыл бұрын
Does it also work with dual sided PCBs?
@ClaudioArrau
15 жыл бұрын
So you mean how to connect the 2 sides? Use a single core wire and solder it from both sides. You will need to hold it while soldering it, because the heat will melt the solder at the othe side. Hold it or bend it so it wont move during soldering process.
@epineh
11 жыл бұрын
HI, well I wouldn't use your favourite paper guillotine but they do work with a little extra "encouragement" not the best thing as it sometimes makes the board curve a little. If the left over bits are big enough then sure you can use them, I know what you mean getting them the right size is a pain.
@epineh
15 жыл бұрын
The printer needs to use pigment based ink, not dye based, and you need to be able to modify the paper feed mechanism to accept a flat sheet of copper clad fibreglass, the Epson's seem to be the easiest for this.
@chickenpoper
14 жыл бұрын
k thx i found a store in brigde port in connecticut that sells huge boards of the copper clad
@gameover2005
15 жыл бұрын
Hi, I have a question for you. I recently modified an epson stylus color 670 so that it would accept the copper board but no matter what I can't make it to print properly, the ink just gets diffused. I've tried heating / color changing / sanding / acetone and more but the ink just keeps "melting".. I think my problem is the ink that this cartridges use.. What kind of ink are you uysing? Is there any "permanent ink" (as in the permanent sharpies) available to prevent this? Thanks in advance!
@samarthartweaver3923
11 жыл бұрын
hey did u use a SIMPLE paper trimmer to cut the pcb? i mean can any ordinary trimmer work? [i hate cutting it manually by hacksaw] and can the pcb [the other part] can be re-used? because i have large sized pcbs over here... btw, nice work :)
@JCasax
11 жыл бұрын
It could be due to the surface of your pcb, with a rougher surface the adherence is improved
@revosurf
12 жыл бұрын
Yo man this is cool and what PCB design software are you using?please reply!
@daleypone
11 жыл бұрын
q tipo de impresora es
@xxwzaebd
15 жыл бұрын
I see. But I will still have to figure out how to process the througholes without using throughole pins.
@bakuryu03
12 жыл бұрын
what kind of printer did you use???
@AlienRelics
15 жыл бұрын
So you are saying that Lexmark black ink works as an acid resist? But you dust it with toner before hitting it with a heat gun? That would be great news, because of the simplicity of a Lexmark printer as compared to an Epson. I know that the black ink in HP and Canon are pigmented (colors are dye), I think Lexmark is the same.
@epineh
15 жыл бұрын
Sorry, missed ur question...song is called Broken Days, it is a free music download from freeplaymusic {dot} com :~]
@xxwzaebd
15 жыл бұрын
Actually I did something like this with small test boards but this time such a solution won't work.I think I have to order the PCBs this time and experiment with plating solutions afterwards.
@nanodocl
15 жыл бұрын
Tahnks,I will do that Do you remember any source in particular??
@SuperHypnoman
11 жыл бұрын
As long as its pigment based ink it wont matter the color.... :)
@epineh
14 жыл бұрын
Erm, yeah it is a toaster oven...not a microwave...good old fashioned heating elements :)
@Hardwyre
13 жыл бұрын
@sqftsteve I'd love to hear what you consider "music".
@DanFrederiksen
10 жыл бұрын
We need laser activated etchant so we can direct laser etch a board.
@epineh
14 жыл бұрын
@adisharr Not a problem :]
@epineh
16 жыл бұрын
I put the whole process with pictures on CNCZone, otherwise try the Yahoo Homebrew PCB group, or Google direct inkjet pcb and you should get some ideas :)
@epineh
15 жыл бұрын
Best bet is to Google direct PCB printing and get ready for some serious reading :)
@ClaudioArrau
15 жыл бұрын
I guess yes. You'll have to "cook" the pcb ofcource before changing side
@epineh
15 жыл бұрын
I tried a few double sided boards and it was just too difficult to get the alignment spot on, it would always drift about 1mm which isn't any good, so I stuck to single sided. If anybody gets it to work I am all ears =)
@vstoykovbg
8 жыл бұрын
You are touching poison with your bare hands! 1:38
@nanodocl
15 жыл бұрын
How do you hack the printer???
@epineh
11 жыл бұрын
Ferric chloride, and standard durabrite ink
@epineh
15 жыл бұрын
Ha, that is funny...nerdy but funny :)
@epineh
15 жыл бұрын
Eagle layout editor...free version :>
@epineh
15 жыл бұрын
Thanks (I think :)
@epineh
15 жыл бұрын
I can't link the URL here (KZitem won't let me) but the techref . massmind site has what you need. There are a few pages on the site, you may have to dig a little. Otherwise I have a build log on CNCZone but you will have to register (free) the thread got VERY long but most of what I did is on the first few pages. Good Luck !
@ClaudioArrau
15 жыл бұрын
I am not sure what is your problem. What is that you dont know? Can you explain better?
@epineh
13 жыл бұрын
@ChrisBit692002 :]
@28DICI61
7 жыл бұрын
зашибись!!!!!!!!!!
@reinoso22
14 жыл бұрын
Toner transfer method is better, faster and easier.
@epineh
14 жыл бұрын
:-D
@dessieb123
12 жыл бұрын
hi
@necromx
14 жыл бұрын
It's a toaster oven...really metal in a microwave dude...Should you even be trying this lol
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