Correction: Disney bought ABC in 1996, not 66. I blame my dyslexia. 😅
@googamp32
Күн бұрын
Correction: Disney bought ABC in 1996, not ABD.
@ComicDrake
Күн бұрын
@@googamp32 GOD DAMMIT
@keitrickmiller
Күн бұрын
@@ComicDrakeWe still rock with you Drake, why.....cuz your GREAT.
@somethingeasy3005
Күн бұрын
Drake this was BRILLIANT. Now I’m wondering can we get one of these for other heroes? Nightwing for example? Other than Titans, i feel like Grayson hasn’t gotten the shine he deserves..but WHY?
@a14yearold
Күн бұрын
Would you say this video still has potential to be true then (not trying to be mean just genuinely curious)
@Anthintendo
Күн бұрын
If this is true, the executive leadership at Disney must feel so smug about themselves that one of their Industry Rivals, Warner Bros. has to tiptoe around 9 miles of legal land mines just to sneak REFERENCES to their most popular IP in live action on television. Like, imagine Bob Iger chuckling to himself whenever he hears “oh WB is putting together a new live action TV project featuring Batman,” and has one hand on a bright red phone waiting for the call from David Zaslav to ask permission to have Batman appear out of focus in the distance of a shot for 30 seconds.
@tonypeppermint5329
Күн бұрын
Definitely.
@ivanagustinortiz5237
Күн бұрын
Which is why, even tho we as fans suffer for it, I LOVE that Sony does the same to Disney with Spider-man, giving them a bit of their own medicine.
@Anthintendo
Күн бұрын
@@ivanagustinortiz5237 Kevin Fiege and Ravi Ahuja meet in smoky rooms and play high stakes Poker games but instead of poker chips, they bet Spider-Man characters’ film rights
@NIDELLANEUM
Күн бұрын
@@ivanagustinortiz5237 Exactly. I'm now glad that Disney owns Marvel, but needs to be really careful when handling Marvel's biggest hero
@somethingeasy3005
Күн бұрын
@@ivanagustinortiz5237No literally. When you put it like this it’s HILARIOUS . then there’s the other part of me that’s hates the fact that this is what they do…It’s like you said. In the end we the fans end up starved of content. Idk man, I just feel like we should put the comic back in comic book movies.😔😂
@juliusbossman7280
Күн бұрын
Disney at the next comic con: Our new tv show is about a Caped Crusader, a real Dark Knight you can say. He may fight throughout the night against his infamous rogue's gallery but you can clearly see him fight in his famous dark costume. Coming to ABC: Nighthawk
@tombecker381
Күн бұрын
And his name is Darkwing Duck. Let's get dangerous.
@chrischriskidnicky6088
Күн бұрын
Isn’t that what Moon Knight is?
@leithaziz2716
Күн бұрын
To be frank, there are MANY parallels you can draw to Daredevil when it comes to Batman. Hell's Kitchen is Matt's "Gotham" equivalent.
@ДимчоДимов-ж7е
Күн бұрын
He'd be played by Zac Efron.
@TheKyleMark
Күн бұрын
@@ДимчоДимов-ж7еEfron would be a dope Batman, especially now that his jaw looks like it does.
@CaptainCat101
Күн бұрын
Happy Batman Day! "ET forgives Bat"
@FanboyimusPrime
Күн бұрын
Even if what James Gunn said is correct this video is still an interesting look into the weird and complicated mess Batman's legal rights for live action TV have been.
@SonicStantz
Күн бұрын
What did Gunn say?
@HyperionStars
Күн бұрын
@@SonicStantzhe said on twitter “This is not true” replying to this theory
@CrashdummyNation
14 сағат бұрын
It hasn't been at all. Batman 66 distribution rights isn't the same as Batman tv rights lol This video might aswell have been proving aliens were real. He told you all the reasons it was possible but left out all the reasons it wasnt...Like an out focus Batman in titans? Lmao ...It was Batman, if they weren't allowed to use him they would have been sued. It was clearly Batman. Lol
@michaelmaguire4147
10 сағат бұрын
@@CrashdummyNation you seem to be confusing "cannot ever use" and "needs permission to use"
@GothamKnight84661
7 сағат бұрын
You shouldn't believe everything Gunn say's. He lies so much, even he isn't able to be truthful about anything.
@mediabaron2416
Күн бұрын
There is one conclusion to be drawn from all this.... Character rights suck and will forever be the bane of storytelling.
@Drekal684
Күн бұрын
And a big part of the problem is... Once again, Disney! This time for pushing copyright laws to a ridiculous, obscene degree. Like, they only really stopped it when they realised it wasn't worth it anymore. The sheer damage that's caused to long term creativity is only really starting to be felt now, though there are of course other factors too.
@olliehearton
Күн бұрын
Ask the Spectacular Spider-Man fans.
@Superlad9494
Күн бұрын
The *Bane* ....what a *Knight*
@oldylad
23 сағат бұрын
@@Drekal684no, the problem is the industry refusing to take risks. Are they wrong though? It’s a lot easier to adapt or make a sequel than it is to make something genuinely unique or creative. It’s far easier to copy everyone else too, that’s why everything feels samey and bland
@Drekal684
12 сағат бұрын
@@oldylad There can be more than one problem going at once. I agree with you that what you've said is *a* problem, and a very big one, but it's not the only thing going amiss in the entertainment industry right now. Cargo culting is another issue (that is, seeing something blow up and trying to copy it without understanding why it was popular). Chasing metrics is another. Short term planning to satisfy investors is another really, really big problem that splinters off into causing multiple other issues - like the one you raised.
@kubzeez
Күн бұрын
“ermm the jokers right behind me isn’t he?” - TV Batman probably
@The_Phantasm
Күн бұрын
12:58 Small error there. Clock King is in fact a Green Arrow villain. Most people assume he's a Batman villain because of his small appearance in Batman TAS, but that version of Clock King was a different person named Temple Fugate as opposed to the comic book William Tockman. Also, while Deathstroke has certainly fought Batman, he is a Titans and Nightwing villain not a Batman villain.
@wilsonng994
Күн бұрын
Huh. I didn't know that. I was pleasantly surprised to learn some of the supervillains Batman fought were originally minor or B-tier villains that were originally a part of other DC superheroes.
@The_Phantasm
Күн бұрын
@@wilsonng994 Deathstroke was never B-Tier and has always remained a Titans and Nightwing villain.
@RunicRazili
Күн бұрын
Another small error from the same moment, Deathstroke is a Nightwing villain. Most people assume he’s Batman because of his many appearances in Batman media, but everybody forgets that he has more beef with Dick and the Titans as opposed to Bruce after the death of his son. Edit: just read the last sentence of your comment, ignore what I said 😅
@DavidTSmith-jn5bs
Күн бұрын
What about the Clock King on the '66 TV series?
@The_Phantasm
Күн бұрын
@@DavidTSmith-jn5bs I mean he was there but no one ever refers to his appearance in the show.
@michaelmaguire4147
Күн бұрын
One aspect of this that I've always heard about, that you only just barely touched on is that "Batman can't be on TV because it would dilute the brand" line being attributed to a decree from Nolan when he was making his Batman movies.
@jturner2577
9 сағат бұрын
Nolan's Decree was and still is bullshit.
@kevin10001
7 сағат бұрын
That could just be an official statement to cover up not having the television or not having them fully of something cause the 1966 series have to put out a few cover up statements themselves like when they had to replace the riddler in the Batman’s anniversary plot and brought in John Ashton from the Addams family the official cover up statement was that Frank gorshin had a night club engagement he couldn’t reschedule but he was having a contract dispute with the show as stated in Adam’s book back to the batcave for example
@NIDELLANEUM
Күн бұрын
For a long time, I assumed DC shows barely featured Batman or made sure he wasn't going to appear much as an active superhero because WB wanted to "save" him for big budget movies. That was the only way I could justify them doing stuff like barely making him show up on Arrow, featuring him as an almost 60 year old man on Titans, and somehow making Gotham, a show about Gotham City when Bruce Wayne was a teenager, with barely a few direct references to Batman. Now you're telling me that it's because Disney, who already owns the majority of western pop culture, found themselves with the TV rights to Batman? Man, how is it fair that Disney gets to control so much entertainment?
@jadenbryant9283
Күн бұрын
its also could be because of the batman embargo.
@jameskiely2788
Күн бұрын
Not a snake monster, eh? Just the thing a snake monster would say!
@super_carson
Күн бұрын
My guess was always that Warner Bros doesn’t want to cheapen the brand with constant appearances on live action television and make people less interested in going to a Batman film. Really good video and I respect your research
@NIDELLANEUM
Күн бұрын
Exactly. That was a logical way to justify stuff like having Batman be a 60 year old retired man on Titans, or making sure that the Arrowverse would only feature "Bruce Wayne" once, and only with Hush pretending to be him
@basilciccone1679
Күн бұрын
Idk if anyone remembers a youtube series called After Hours; I think they had the same opinion on what you’re saying like a decade ago, pretty cool stuff.
@einootspork
Күн бұрын
That's not a "headcanon," that's just an assumption. Headcanons are for fiction.
@Doomsword0
Күн бұрын
I've always found it a strange excuse though, I still look forward to the next Superman movie even though I watched Superman and Lois. It's a super old and outdated perspective from when movie were seen as the goal and tv was lesser than which hasn't been the case for many years now
@super_carson
Күн бұрын
@@Doomsword0 This is what I believe Warner Bros' approach to be, not reflexive of my own. The big decision to exclude Batman in live-action television most likely came from old business execs who didn't want to make any type of "financial risks" with an obvious cash cow. The reason why I believe Superman gets the greenlight for live-action television is because those same business execs don't view something like "Superman and Lois" stepping on any congruently running appearances in film. Superman, at least before James Gunn stepped in as CEO, unfortunately wasn't as much of a priority as Batman is. Completely the fault of DC for relying on Batman so much instead of equally growing other character's public brand just like what they did with Batman '89, but that's a whole other can of worms. I agree with you that it's an old excuse, I'm just trying to look at the situation from the perspective of the people who give the thumbs up or not
@flintlockwood25
Күн бұрын
I've always wandered about this because Fox aired Gotham, which was STILL airing during the Disney/Fox merger
@SonicXtreme99akaCreeperMario
Күн бұрын
I thought it had something to do with dc’s weird rule about how writers aren’t allowed to use the same character if a movie is using it (that’s why twoface wasn’t in 2004’s the batman)
@NIDELLANEUM
Күн бұрын
I wonder if that rule is still in place. Seems kinda sus how they suddenly made a cartoon where the Penguin is a woman right as a TV show about the Penguin premieres
@lordofninjas1
Күн бұрын
I think that rule has only been around in recent years (I've really only heard it be applied to the Arrowverse and DCEU since they were running at the same time), so I don't think it applies to a show from the 60's, and pretty sure it only ever applied to live-action projects, so animated projects like the Batman from 2004 wouldn't have been effected by it. Now with Gunn and Safran taking over DC it sounds like that rule doesn't exist anymore since they said they are wanting to use the same actors they cast for movies to appear in tv shows and games and such.
@magicalgirllaurie
Күн бұрын
@@lordofninjas1 No, the Batman in 2004 was VERY much affected by it. It's why Gordon didn't show up till season 3 and Robin didn't show up till season 4. Gordon was in the Nolan movies and Robin was in the Teen Titans cartoon. It's been a thing for ages, although I don't think it's in effect anymore, at least not as strictly if it is.
@lordofninjas1
Күн бұрын
@@magicalgirllaurie hmm. Ok, I've not seen or heard anything about that being the case for the Batman Animated show. As I mentioned in my comment I only have ever heard it be applied to the Arrowverse and DCEU projects, so I'm wondering if there is some kind of thing floating around about it that I just haven't seen or if it's sort of fans retroactively conflating it to apply to the older projects prior to DCEU/Arrowverse when it actually doesn't or whatever.
@leithaziz2716
Күн бұрын
It's always interesting to look at the unique rules put on each proprty. Godzilla for example is not allowed (by Toho) to die in a film unless he's replaced by another Godzilla. Hence Godzilla Jr fully maturing to become the next big lizard at the end of "Godzilla Vs Destoroyah."
@2ndeaster
Күн бұрын
"One step at a time... One step at a time." - Bob Iger
@packedentertainment2866
Күн бұрын
Palpatine but in real life
@wiilov
Күн бұрын
No steps at all. His House of Cards is a-crumbling
@themilkman5004
Күн бұрын
Oh, a lot of things make sense now
@Chris_Thorndyke
Күн бұрын
Welcome to reality
@SonicStantz
2 сағат бұрын
It’s not true. James Gunn has confirmed that this is BS. His words.
@comixproviderftw_02
Күн бұрын
DC Fans: But you don’t own Batman. Disney: Not yet… Not completely anyway. 😏
@KadeStringer2.0
Күн бұрын
Disney doesn’t own Batman
@carsonsmith7314
Күн бұрын
The only Batman they own is the '66 version. Which ironically is one of the best versions. Go figure.
@RyanG0899
Күн бұрын
@carsonsmith7314 He's not even regarded as one of the top 3 live action Batmen.
@carsonsmith7314
Күн бұрын
@@RyanG0899 He should be. He's the only one, aside from Michael Keaton and maybe Robert Pattinson who understood the character. "I never had to say 'I'm Batman'. I showed up. People knew I was Batman." - Adam West
@comixproviderftw_02
Күн бұрын
@@carsonsmith7314 That’s the best line Adam West ever said and it’s from The Big Bang Theory of all things
@kinglycrimson
Күн бұрын
Disney owns the rights to the 2001 transformers show "robots in disguise"
@RainbowLegion
14 сағат бұрын
Aswell as many of the comics as Marvel UK made them
@ericfusco8235
Күн бұрын
Disney bought ABC in ‘96 not ‘66. Obviously just an oversight but just bringing it to your attention before you are inundated with angry nerds. Love your content , Drake! Recommend it to all my old nerd friends!
@ComicDrake
Күн бұрын
Dyslexia strikes again. 😭
@CaptainCat101
Күн бұрын
I knew something about that didn't sound right
@Kaidd.I
Күн бұрын
So Disney owns batman '66 rights, sony owns spider man movie rights, got it
@Optimegatrongodzilla
Күн бұрын
No, Disney does not have any TV rights for the 'Batman' property. This video is a *massive* load of bull!
@pirate4460
Күн бұрын
Here's what WB can do: make a live action FMV batman game with limited interactivity - but never release the game to the public. Then, make a TV show about a streamer that only plays WB video games - and coincidentally he's only going to play the FMV game, one hour per week.
@lightyearpig12
Күн бұрын
That reminds me, Disney also owns Dragon Ball Evolution which means they possibly own the live action film rights to Dragon Ball. And probably for the best.
@JuanGomez-ke5py
Күн бұрын
You know Disney to make a movie to keep the right to the Dragon Ball the movie
@jacksvendsgaard2270
Күн бұрын
It would be hilarious if Disney made a Nighthawk show just to rub it in DC’s faces
@DavidTSmith-jn5bs
Күн бұрын
Or a Hyperion show with the main character sporting a spit-curl?
@RyanG0899
Күн бұрын
Yeah, because Nighthawk is going to be more successful than a Batman show...
@jacksvendsgaard2270
Күн бұрын
@@RyanG0899 nighthawk is a parody of Batman. Marvel has openly acknowledged that. And if a good show is written well, IP doesn’t matter
@jadenbryant9283
Күн бұрын
@@DavidTSmith-jn5bs and get Brandon routh to play him.
@DavidTSmith-jn5bs
23 сағат бұрын
@@jadenbryant9283 If he'll dye his hair blonde...
@Blastertronus
Күн бұрын
Transformers Robots in Disguise 2001: First time?
@vanishingllama7342
Күн бұрын
😮....WE LIVE IN THE ODDEST TIMELINE????!!!!!!!!!
@UrBoiCyrus
Күн бұрын
Exactly! With the rumors of the Spider-Man 4 movie I’m believing it more and more
@ender7278
Күн бұрын
I remember hearing that WB let FOX do Gotham in exchange for the rights to '66, hence comics and animated movies based on it coming out around the same time.
@Panthror
Күн бұрын
Great video once again! One minor note: 'The Penguin' airs first on HBO before it is available on MAX, so it is also on TV and not only on a streaming service.
@theotherjared9824
Күн бұрын
WB also for the longest time had a policy that a character can't appear in more than one fim and tv project at once. Robin appeared in season 4 of the batman because he was already in teen titans. A suicide squad CW show was scrapped because the movie was already in production. Deathstroke was barred from anything for a while because executives wanted to save him for a movie. Only recently has this rule lightened up with multiple of the same character appearing everywhere.
@Jason_Bryant
Күн бұрын
I would also argue against Drake's comment about WB having no problem with a Superman show because of Superman and Lois. There was actually a long road to that show. At first they did Supergirl, but they weren't allowed to have Superman show up. Then they had a Superman, but just as a guest star. That went on for a couple of years before the CW was able to convince the higher ups that people liked Tyler Hoechlin Superman so much that they needed to make a Superman show. So they definitely had *less* resistance to a Superman show, but there was some.
@jadenbryant9283
Күн бұрын
@@Jason_Bryant which is great since it lead to us getting some of the best superman media we have had in a long time.
@Superlad9494
14 сағат бұрын
@@Jason_Bryant the movie rule. During the DCEU/Arrowverse years, WB wanted to focus on Cavill instead of Hoechilin even though Hoechilin was the better Superman from the start. This is why Hoechilin got the guest star role later on Supergirl and ultimately his own show. I also think another thing similar to what happened with someone else during the Smallville years helped with his popularity...he was Ruthie Camden's ex...too bad when Simon was on Smallville they had to pull from Hanna-Barbera's bargain basement even though it had been previously established that Simon was both a Flash ("Red Lightning") and Batman fan...surely they could have picked a different superhero at the time without needing to resort to the Wonder Twins.
@crystalballstudiostm2355
Күн бұрын
Dear god no...
@theelitebattleangel
Күн бұрын
Yesss
@SinbadNaiver
Күн бұрын
Oh no.....for the love of god PLEASE GOD NO. If it's true...that would explain why DC's gone to crap.
@anotheronebitesthedust-fs6wr
Күн бұрын
@SinbadNaiver dc as a company is aseparate entity it's just that this is a spiderman situation all over again also do you have any idea who comics drake is he literally covers dc and marvel and other comic franchises
@raven3067
Күн бұрын
DC has gone to crap even before Disney took over.
@kb6900
Күн бұрын
You beat me to it
@Pikashades
16 сағат бұрын
This is like having divided two parties so that one them has a video game but can't play the DLC, while the other party has the DLC but can't play the video game it's for.
@clarktooncrossing3975
Күн бұрын
"I assure you, I'm not a snake monster or anything." That's something A SNAKE MONSTER WOULD SAY!
@edwardsimpson119
Күн бұрын
Comic Drake is only a couple letters off from Comic Snake...
@evansgardens
Күн бұрын
I have both the movie and every episode of the 66' show. It was my first fixation, I absolutely loved it as a kid and I still do
@kevin10001
7 сағат бұрын
I have the movie in both formats and I got the blue-ray box set when it released cause Adam was my introduction to Batman when I was 5 years old in 1989 during the second wave of batmania when family channel now known as Freeform got the syndication rights for the series and i feel in love with the series almost immediately to were Adam became my hero my love of Batman would grow into a general love of Batman as a character but the series will always be my favorite depiction of Batman the series is why I love behind the scenes information about movies and television today trying to hunt down ways to watch it online when it wasn’t being syndicated lead me to lean what I know about the series today winding up on fan sites with the information on them
@kubzeez
Күн бұрын
“I’m batman… erm that sounded better in my head 😅”
@wdcain1
Күн бұрын
What's the deal with the original villains from the Adam West show? Egghead has appeared in the comics but no one else. Tom King tried to bring back King Tut but DC wouldn't let him.
@magnum9588
Күн бұрын
King Tut exists, but he's drastically different from the show one
@CamusHyuga
Күн бұрын
I dont know if this is true for every example you could think of but, as far as I know, both DC and Marvel, usually has some sort of agreement when licensing their IP to TV, animation and videogames, where any newly created character belongs to them (DC/Marvel) but this probably gets filtered through other deals, like creating a new character that becomes popular in a Spider-man videogame becomes a Marvel comics property so they can appear in the comics, but their movie rights are still Sony's. This is me just theorizing through.
@EternityKingdomsHeadHoncho
23 сағат бұрын
Both Egghead and Tut appeared in The LEGO Batman Movie.
@g.a.2997
Күн бұрын
The quagmire of who knows what has always been a nightmare for me. It's the reason I can't get a Blu-ray or dvd complete collection of tales from the crypt, goosebumps or the haunting hour.
@Fox531CD
Күн бұрын
Oh, is it legal rights that kept The Haunting Hour from getting released? I was wondering. Of course, I was also wondering why only half the series ever made it on Prime, and I'm not even sure the first half is still there.
@g.a.2997
Күн бұрын
@Fox531CD I think it's just the Hub network went out of business and now the rights are in limbo. Amazon has whatever episodes are on the DVD series but that is only ~40, there are 75 episodes.
@stopsicle_animation
Күн бұрын
giggity
@shwetaketutyagi3083
Күн бұрын
Fairly certain that they'd be an expiry date on the contract with abc. I mean even in the 1960s they wouldnt give up tv rights like that in perpetuity.
@Brother_mokey
Күн бұрын
Hello Drake I used you’re a catchphrase on my essay about garbage
@geoffreyrichards6079
Күн бұрын
One has to wonder just how much more complicated this mess will become when Batman enters the public domain in 2035.
@alexzeng9833
Күн бұрын
The opposite really, it'll make everything much easier and simple
@johnelmartagbago3764
Күн бұрын
It's not gonna do much complications since only the OG Batman would become public domain. The things we can expect from it is that people will have more Batman fanfilms and maybe horror parodies.
@geoffreyrichards6079
12 сағат бұрын
@@johnelmartagbago3764 By compilations, I meant with the whole live-action depiction in a TV series thing.
@Mammalmage
Күн бұрын
Disney might have full rights to the show by 2044.
@LandonMcAfee
Күн бұрын
Huh. Suddenly, Batman’s cameo in the live-action Rescue Rangers movie makes sense.
@nathanielvaughn6728
Күн бұрын
That was a movie. Disney probably still had to pay movie cameo rights for that one.
@pegasusdrive12
9 сағат бұрын
Ok, couple of corrections: Firstly, Penguin is also being aired on HBO (linear TV) and not just a streaming project. Secondly, we see Burt Ward as Robin in Crisis on Infinite Earths where he is credited as Robin from the Batman 66 universe.
@loganfuller8443
Күн бұрын
I think I and many others can agree that Batman in some level is own by Disney is very wrong. Truly we’ve live in dark world.
@Scorbunzx
Күн бұрын
2:31 man is canon!
@klaus-mikael_son
Күн бұрын
Why wouldn't he be. Are u stupid?
@SpaceCore2053
Күн бұрын
I thought man was a man, not a cannon. Am I stupid?
@KainFuery
Күн бұрын
So there is a chance of getting Dark Claw!
@lordofninjas1
Күн бұрын
Interesting video. I'd be curious to see if something does come out about this to solidify what exactly is going on with it. Also, didn't really notice it until you pointed it out in the video, but yeah, it's strange that they've always sort of danced around any live-action Batman. Whatever the case, this just moves us one step closer to a potential live-action Marvel vs DC project.
@wyattjaron8112
Күн бұрын
This feels like an old film theory episode
@Ultinuc
Күн бұрын
It's a miracle anything gets made
@ihavenoideaatall7381
Күн бұрын
I love when mega corporations stifle creativity over money and a dumb feud. If Marvel and DC (WB and Disney) would get over the fact that they are competition, fans would be able to enjoy both rather than feeling like you can only be a fan of one side. If I was a comic creator I’d rather have my characters enter the Public Domain seeing as how these companies like to sit on some of the greatest characters so that no one else can make great stories with those characters and make any money off of them. They are exactly like Jack Horner from Puss in Boots.
@magnum9588
Күн бұрын
I mean otherwise they'll make a cheap slasher flick
@kb6900
Күн бұрын
YOU MANIAC!!! YOU GAVE HIM UP!!! YOU GAVE HIM UP!!! DARN YOU! GOSH DARN YOU ALL TO HECK!!!!!!!!
@ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΑ-ε1ω
Күн бұрын
what are you talking about
@anotheronebitesthedust-fs6wr
Күн бұрын
Lol what they only own batman 66 not other variations
@brosephthejoe9433
Күн бұрын
That's my I.P. to sit on and do nothing with. - CEO from Smiling Friends. Also, wasn't Clock King was originally a Green Arrow villain?
@Superlad9494
Күн бұрын
Yes, William Tockman is one of Green Arrow's villains. Temple Fugate is one of Bruce's. The reason why Temple Fugate is Bruce's? It's a punny name...almost all Bruce's villains have punny names because they're Jokers. Ollie's rogues gallery is generally this. Malcom Merlyn Brick Clock King Rainbow Archer Different Scooby-Doo type villains that you could find matching his Robinhood getup. Sportsmaster Huntress (Paula Ngyuen-Crock) Cheshire is questionably his rival, but also his daughter-in-law so there's some fun at family gatherings. I would also sort of count Tigress and Icicle Jr, but Tigress and Icicle Jr. are more of a Zatanna villain, even if in some cases Tigress 3 is the Barbara Gordon of the Arrow family with Smoak in the Bette Kane role.
@oliverbrownlow5615
16 сағат бұрын
The name Temple Fugate, for those who are wondering, is a pun on the Latin phrase, "tempus fugit," which means, "time flies."
@anotheronebitesthedust-fs6wr
Күн бұрын
Guys watch the video instead of replying with Disney doom comments the moment drake uploaded
@topcat59
Күн бұрын
It does make me curious why Disney hasn’t really done anything with the rights if they have it.🐱
@oliverbrownlow5615
16 сағат бұрын
Ever heard the fable of "The Dog in the Manger?"
@marblethunder4323
Күн бұрын
I've got it! Have Batman be a former baseball player turned vigilante! XD
@jackdandy3579
11 сағат бұрын
I honest to God hopes that the Penguin show, will have Bruce's disguise skills be presented if they can't have Bats himself, then at least have Matches Malone on the show
@gunnaryoung
Күн бұрын
2:06 my favorite part was when Tim said "it's Burton time" and then started Burting all over the place.
@Starwarsdude8221991
9 сағат бұрын
I mean have you seen his work it’s all Burton
@LizzieShiro
Күн бұрын
If this is true, it's a wonder how Warner Bros fumbled the bag THIS BAD.
@ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΑ-ε1ω
Күн бұрын
they don't own Batman only 66 Batman
@CometX-ing
Күн бұрын
Don't tell me Disney is just holding down the rights to prevent a live action Batman show...
@NIDELLANEUM
Күн бұрын
Which is weird because, okay, they have the MCU, but who would miss out on having a Batman TV show when you can do it?
@DavidTSmith-jn5bs
Күн бұрын
Why not? They're doing the same thing with Zorro...
@RyanG0899
Күн бұрын
@@DavidTSmith-jn5bsMoney
@kaneanderson8626
Күн бұрын
@@DavidTSmith-jn5bs AHHH! so that'll explain why Zorro's being missing since the Banderas movies.
@Suhayl_Khatib
Күн бұрын
That’s wild!
@SapphireKnight675
Күн бұрын
that's the weirdest rumor I ever heard considering the amounts of Batman Animated Shows and Movies along with his Association with Cartoon Network, I think it likely had more to do with the Bat Embargo than anything else EDIT: because if they truly did have those rights, they would be using them in anyway just to prevent WB from using or had some kind of negotiation like they did with Oswald
@ender7278
Күн бұрын
Gotham definitely had the rights to all the characters except Batman and the Joker. They call all the villains by their full names and villain names and the costumes are pretty standard.
@CosminNeagu
Күн бұрын
There are 2 possibilities - there could be a legal problem with the names, designs and likenesses of characters which WB never discussed with Disney, or there could be some high level belief in the company that Batman and his related characters are the most precious piece of intellectual property and better kept for bigger projects with more significance, less prone to fail. I'd bet on the first one but now with Gunn as the head of DC Studios and with a great deal of respect inside Marvel (and Disney) and he could pull of the trick to get him back. He said that they will have movies, animated movies and animated series around the characters so he may plan around the Batman's legal problem thing.
@DaySun88
Күн бұрын
It’s not wild Disney owns everything
@stevecorgiman4253
Күн бұрын
Surely if disney owned the television rights for batman that would extend to animated shows as well, not to mention the fact that when it came to gotham, which was run by Fox, as you mentioned but they still had to answer to WB which is why Jerome and Jerimiah Valeska couldnt be called the joker and why the batsuit could only be shown for a few seconds. Warner Bros. Has a history of not allowing batman to appear in Tv shows as part of the infamous Batembargos
@lookatmelol5722
Күн бұрын
You got to remember that when it comes to animated properties are not treated equally to the live-action properties they actually hold under different contracts and are specified as separate things just based off the facts that cartoons is considered kids media versus live-action being generalized for all media it is very dumb and I don't know the specifics but I do believe that was one of the reasons why some characters from media can't be turned into live action but at the same time have animated properties it's very weird but I know there is some type of division
@RyanG0899
Күн бұрын
Disney really is the worst thing to happen to the entertainment industry.
@Myrrhkuri
4 сағат бұрын
i do remember stories of Batman not being allowed on TV during the Dark Knight trilogy because , the way I remember was that Nolan made the stipulation in his contract..Didnt want a bunch of other Batman content over saturating the market
@farmerproductions9869
Күн бұрын
Reaction to video title: wha…..
@chrisandrews3979
Күн бұрын
WB has stated in the past why they try and keep batman away from TV, because they want to save him for the big screen. They consider him too valuable for tv.
@jadenbryant9283
Күн бұрын
ignoring he fact that some of the most famous versions of batman come from tv but wb has rarely been smart have they.
@Superlad9494
13 сағат бұрын
@@jadenbryant9283 well not exactly, but I do think they do that to drive us Bats.
@sidewire8777
23 сағат бұрын
I think the reason why we don’t see a lot of Batman in Batman related shows is because simply it’s hard to do an affective Batman justice for a tv budget
@eckesg2
Күн бұрын
This is why it took so long for a DVD of Batman to come out. 20th Century Fox owned the TV rights but WB owned the property.
@gibbeynator
3 сағат бұрын
Honestly, I think the Bat-embargo really is just that strict. Legend has it that the Bat-embargo is why Robin didn't show up on The Batman until season 4; because he was already on Teen Titans and WB didn't want to confuse the viewers.
@henrygreen2096
20 сағат бұрын
I will GENUINELY be buying these socks. As soon as you said no seem at the end I was hooked but then you mentioned the philanthropy portion as well.
@elizabethsharp9556
Күн бұрын
Disney Channel series Jessie had a Batman reference where Bertram was going to a butler event and he said they were going to roast their colleague, Alfred Pennyworth.
@zikkeboi
Күн бұрын
YOU HAVE SAID HIS NAME!!! You are legally required to do a Green Arrow video now. My boy gets overlooked so much it hurts.
@janthegeek
Күн бұрын
The Penguin airs on HBO so I speculate the reason that it is allowed is because the Reeves version of the Penguin is more grounded and doesn't resemble that much his '66 counterpart.
@High-LordHarza
Күн бұрын
Stuff like this is why I love your content. Also, I like that you included the Here 2 Hit logo on the background, love spotting new additions!
@MatthewFreeman-p6e
Күн бұрын
Only way to get Batman on TV would be a Batman/ Marvel crossover on TV.
@Muninnfeathers
Күн бұрын
I was just complaining about this the other day when my ex-hubby and fellow comic book nerd told me about the new Penguin show. It all makes so much sense! Thank you for all your detective work! Batman would be proud!
@tedioustotoro4885
14 сағат бұрын
This deal sounds like the television equivalent of Universal and Disney’s Marvel theme park contract.
@AeonKnigh432
23 сағат бұрын
Disney not have a monopoly challenge: Level impossible
@TSLAYER34
23 сағат бұрын
It makes a lot of sense because the only time I see Batman live action TV is always the Adam West version
@GreenDiablo
7 сағат бұрын
"Batman 66 was a collaborative effort by ABC..." Oh no. "...and 20th Century Fox." Oh NOOOO...
@AeonKnigh432
23 сағат бұрын
If there were a rights issue, they would not show the suit briefly or onscured, they'd just not be allowed to show it. That's just not how rights work.
@recnepsrc
2 сағат бұрын
This is sort of like how Disney technically owns a lot of the side characters from the 90's The Tick animated show, but not the Tick himself; Ben Edlund owns the rights to the characters from the original comics, but Fox Kids owned anything created specifically for the TV show. So congrats Disney, you own Batmanuel.
@MathieuLeblanc1991
13 сағат бұрын
I did notice that on the credits of Space Jam A New Legacy, they had to credit Disney for sharing the rights to the theme song for the film
@jlev1028
Күн бұрын
Honestly, I thought the real reason why Batman hasn't shown up in any post-60s live action TV series is the cost. He would not only have to be armored and skilled in martial arts choregraphy but also cramped with tons of gadgets. Sure, you could argue Batwoman accomplished that goal, but that show spends more time on quiet chatacterization scenes since both holders of the mantle have more of a social life than Bruce Wayne.
@somethingeasy3005
Күн бұрын
I NEVER THOUGHT ABOUT THAT OMGGGGGG. You’re brilliant Drake.
@SMunro
4 сағат бұрын
When Batman enters Public Domain that ceases.
@MysterySteve
12 сағат бұрын
While I've only been a Batman fan for a few years now, him not showing up very much kinda adds to the mysterious, imposing icon that he is. I know it's a cheap way out, but it feels right for me
@Fry_Rodriguez
Күн бұрын
There is a DVD for Batman 1966
@fedoraman4937
Күн бұрын
I think a lot of the reason why they avoid showing batman's costumes in full, is because of these show's low budgets. They don't have the money to make a high quality batsuit for a throwaway scene
@Dagoroth55
12 сағат бұрын
It makes so much sense now. Superman is as important as Batman, yet Superman gets more actors to portray him than Batman does. Disney will never give up the rights without a bankrupting load of cash. I guess we are stuck like this.
@RadikAlice
Күн бұрын
Legal hell is always (not) fun to be in. Also, the "Dawn of Man" bit made me laugh way harder than it should, straight up spat on my monitor a little
@iamcitizen38
16 сағат бұрын
The Penguin isn't a streaming-only project, though. It airs on cable as well.
@TheNeonNinja
Күн бұрын
it'd be funny if they added a Nightwing show into the Arrowverse when it was on...just skirting around the whole "who was your boss again?" thing. Just Oliver always still not believing in Bats at all for the entire run
@dabatman5187
Күн бұрын
Imagine Disney releases a Batman show with completely original villains. It’ll be better than most of these “Spin-off Batman shows that mention but don’t ever really show or call him Batman”
@ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΑ-ε1ω
Күн бұрын
only in the 66 universe
@windghost2
Күн бұрын
So The Batman 2004?
@leithaziz2716
Күн бұрын
The 2004 Batman show had a lot of great original characters to be frank.
@JoeKawano
5 минут бұрын
They say bats are just mice with wings.
@elizabethsharp9556
Күн бұрын
Dick Grayson (Robin) was in Batman ‘66 and Titans in costume
@Superlad9494
13 сағат бұрын
That's different. In Titans he's Nightwing. Nightwing is absolutely in no way Batman.
@elizabethsharp9556
13 сағат бұрын
@@Superlad9494 He is Robin in season 1 and most of season 2
@Superlad9494
13 сағат бұрын
@@elizabethsharp9556 he is still not Batman. Nightwing and Robin are supporting characters. Batman is to be saved for movies. 1966 was when they were considered as a duo. They're no longer considered as Duos. This makes it easier for Robins and Batgirls to fly than Batman. Batman does not come about right away.
@elizabethsharp9556
13 сағат бұрын
@@Superlad9494 Oh, I thought Batman’s supporting characters from Batman ‘66 was also involved in this mess.
@Superlad9494
13 сағат бұрын
@@elizabethsharp9556 no. We were gonna get a Babs movie, but it was unreleased because it was trash...so it got a tax writeoff. The only real issue is that they want to treat Bruce as "This Cool Movie Exclusive" thing. Everyone else can appear, but no Bruce.
@googamp32
Күн бұрын
Zaslav couldn't have done THAT much damage, right?
@mateushenriquepinheiro3197
Күн бұрын
Watch the video before commenting something like that
@googamp32
Күн бұрын
@@mateushenriquepinheiro3197It was a joke.
@mateushenriquepinheiro3197
Күн бұрын
@@googamp32 ah, sorry is just that I have seen a lot of people commenting stuff before even watching the video their commenting on, more then once in the same video
@googamp32
Күн бұрын
@@mateushenriquepinheiro3197 S'alight.
@reobeem
Күн бұрын
Lesson learned have an expiration date on any contract when using a character. It's annoying in a way but soon a lot of characters will be going into public domain so these companies will have a ton of stuff to figure out.
@munjatkumo1929
Күн бұрын
Wasn't expecting a video on this topic to be interesting! Good job.
@sathrielsatanson666
16 сағат бұрын
Superhero legal rights are fascinating. Like that legal battle between McFarlane and Gaiman.
@munjatkumo1929
12 сағат бұрын
@@sathrielsatanson666 Pretty sure 99 % of the stories superhero legal battles are as boring to me, a layman, as 99 % of legal battles in general. I've only heard of two for which I find the story to be actually interesting: Gaiman vs. McFarlane and the "custody battle" for Captain Marvel between Facwett, DC comics and Marvel. There's surely hundreds if not thousands more superhero legal cases that nobody talks about, because they're very run of the mill. I didn't think the story for this one to be interesting either. What I DID find interesting was that I had probably been wrong for years: I'd always thought it was an artistic decision by all these shows creators to leave Batman out of the stories. That maybe their artistic goal was to laserfocus on Teen Titans/The Titans, or Batwoman, or Gothams past before the emergence of Batman etc. Because that's good storytelling. I WAS always puzzled why Batman wasn't in Smallville though. But it makes so much more sense that it's (potentially, according to Drake over here) a legal mandate.
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