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@wallacem41atgmail
2 жыл бұрын
For me, number six would include having the album art and liner notes at hand and not having to search for them on the internet where the information is often incomplete.
@boss123400
2 жыл бұрын
Still have about 200 CD's from the '90s ha! Still listen to them. I'm moving and putting together a new system. NR1711, MM7025 need a recommendation for speakers in 2.1 bookshelf's plus sub. Thanks
@paw45
2 жыл бұрын
@ 07:26 Tom Petty went head-to-head with MCA again in 1981 when the label pushed to sell his next album, “Hard Promises,” for $9.98 a pop - a full dollar more than the norm at that time. On principle, Petty refused to release the record, stating that he wanted to keep costs down for his fans.
@raulzombiemachete
Жыл бұрын
PS3 consoles are EXCELLENT media devices. Awesome for playing CDs
@aevans-jl9ym
Жыл бұрын
Just subscribed, Here in the UK, even the "thrift shops" no longer want donated CDs or DVDs they can't get rid of them. Over here most are now destined for landfill.
@shreddherring
2 жыл бұрын
Number 11. You will actually Own your music, instead of just renting it. I still buy blurays instead of streaming too. Not only is the quality better, and far more consistent and reliable, but I dont have to worry about a particular thing suddenly not being available online anymore. Plus, deluxe edition cd's, and often cd single, will give you extra tracks that you wont find anywhere else. Just make sure if you're using EAC to rip to WAV, I honestly dont understand why anyone would seek out a cd because it is better quality, to then turn around and rip it to a compressed file type, defeats the object
@davidwald2938
2 жыл бұрын
I'm the same way for music because of blue ray 5.1 on my old reference level Pioneer but for movies, my cheapie 4k player became obsolete in just a few years because Samsung stopped updating them to play some newer movies. Nothing is more frustrating than buying a new movie that won't play so I'd rather stream new movies.
@mikafoxx2717
2 жыл бұрын
Lossless compression doesn't touch the original file in any way, it just finds more compact ways to store it. FLAC and ALAC are lossless and far away from the psychoacoustic Fourier based compression. Think of it like a ZIP file tailored for music.
@shreddherring
2 жыл бұрын
@@mikafoxx2717 that is often the claim, but I can hear the difference between a flac and a wav, just like I can hear the difference between both and an mp3. Frankly, with the hard drives available today, I dont see the argument for shrinking these files for home listening, if it means I'm losing something. For people who are mainly portable listeners, it may be different
@mikafoxx2717
2 жыл бұрын
@@shreddherring I would request that you convert a WAV to FLAC and then back, and compare the bits of both. They're identical. It's the exact same bits going to your DAC.
@ElRobin
2 жыл бұрын
@@shreddherring probably placebo effect. Make a blind A vs B test with about 20 tracks. I would be surprised if you guess correctly more than 50%
@christopherviers8302
2 жыл бұрын
Nice video... One subject that most people don't discuss is "CD rot"... or the fact of bronzing, which greatly reduces the shelf life of CDs. I recently gave away my CD collection (3,000+) to a close friend, who I know will make good use of them... He and I both noticed that every so often, one of the CDs had become blotchy and glitchy, basically unplayable... I live in the tropics, so I can attest to the reality of CD rot - high temps/high humidity will definitely put the hurt on your CDs, after an extended period of time. This being said, it might behoove anyone, who's personally invested in and takes pride in their CD collection, to make an extra effort, when storing their CDs... "Discs last longest when stored in plastic cases in a cool, dark, dry environment. (NIST recommends that for CD's and DVD's, relative humidity should be in the range of 20%-50% and temperatures should be in the range of 4C-20C). Because gravity can gradually bend the disc, storing it upright like a book is best for long-term storage." Having access to "streaming" has really softened the blow of my giving away my CDs, but just as Mr. Cheapaudioman mentioned concerning the tactile aspect, I do miss having them filling up the room in a way...
@dkeener13
2 жыл бұрын
I haven't experienced rot at all, but I live in a dry climate. one thing I'll note though, all disc readers are not equal. and price is not the separator here, it's more research and trial and error to find the ones that can read anything you throw at them.
@LuisGomez-fl2bj
Жыл бұрын
I found a teac 5 cd player for 20 bucks on fb market place connected it to my receiver and speakers and the audio quality is amazing
@stevedavenport1202
Жыл бұрын
As a CD reseller/hunter, yes, you can find CDs for as low as .50 cents and $1.00 in thrift shops. If you aren't particular about what you find, it's a good place to shop. However, if you are looking for a particular title, then I would go with a CD marketplace online or even a retail used CD shop if you are in a bigger city.
@Tob1Kadach1
Жыл бұрын
Great video, I'm 30 and I've been buying CD's since the mid 2000's. I'm not a fan of streaming music. I still buy DVD's & BluRays too, I prefer owning physical media. My Panasonic CD player/DAB is my pride & joy.
@sandr6769
Жыл бұрын
my thoughts exactly. this is high time for CDs, considering all that's been said. I understand why people got crazy about vinyl, but it's expensive and all the hype. the same with cassette tape, they're fun but it's inferior from audio quality (although cassette tapes do have their specific allure). CD Audio is neat, convinient and HQ. I love CDs from late80s/early90s.
@coffeecat086
Жыл бұрын
They need a QR CODE type thing you can scan from the physical disc itself that give you the digital copy for any physical disc purchased from the site of your choice.
@MoarRushPl0x
Жыл бұрын
I'm only really interested in burning my own CDs. I like the digital route as well. I don't stream. I don't have the phone for that. Lots of modern cars have the aux input so I don't always have to make a mix CD. I can plug a MP3 player straight into the player inside a car. As of right now, I have my eyes on a new MP3 player. I'm excited to own another one. It will give me something to listen to when I go for walks. Previously, I had a Zune that broke from heavy use and I lost the power cable to a Zune HD I traded for with a friend. Even if I fixed my Zune, which is totally possible, the software to update what music is on it is only possible on Windows 7 or older OS. I'm not going to dedicate anything to those operating systems just to add music to my outdated Zune. I loved my Zune, I used it heavily back in the day. Unfortunately, it wasn't the most quality product. I broke the hold bottom within the first year of owning it. (I babied it and it still broke). I had to Velcro a stylist to it so I could toggle the hold feature on and off. Then I dropped it on brick flooring at work once and some of the pixeled went black. And the final break that made it unusable was the front board stopped working. Meaning, I couldn't pause, play, stop, or navigate anything. All I could do was let it fade to black and let the battery die slowly. The biggest problem I have with legit CDs is having to change them out when the CD has played through every song. Only having 30-60 minutes of music at a time is kind of lame. My solution for that is making CDs with over 100 songs on them. It's short process and totally worth it. Sure, to some audiophiles it might seem like a bad idea to lower the quality of the music to fit it on the CD. However, it's not really much difference at moderate volume. At least that's what I've experienced. I never play my music loud and I'm betting that's when you'll notice the quality dip. I run a playlist through a program that lowers the bit rate to 90kb. Then I'm free to put 100+ songs on a CD. At the end of the day, I Still have the 160kb or the 320kb copy stored on a flash drive. It's worth the little sacrifice in quality when on long car rides. Not that I go on long car rides all the time but it's still very convenient for a week or two of commuting. It's wonderful when you find 5-6 new albums and you just want to play them over a long period of time in 15 minute intervals. I would do this for my friend so he had music for his commute. And it was nice that I always had my music in his car. It wasn't until recently that I discovered having your favorite music in the car is a wonderful experience. I've never had that before. (I don't drive). Certainly, I've enjoyed listening to music in the car but having your newest favorites on deck is an exciting experience. Sorry, I had a lot to say about my modern uses for music. Your thoughts about CDs were interesting. You made a lot of great points.
@kalebdaark100
Жыл бұрын
CD's I've always loved. Bought my first one in 89. Bought my last one last week. CD cases on the other hand...those fragile, fracturous plastic cases I have always hated.
@deepakralph
Жыл бұрын
I have been buying CDs and DVDs and Blu-ray because I own them.
@nordic5490
Жыл бұрын
Ok. Buy a 20TB stand alone HDD. Rip your cds with error correction to this drive to uncompressed wav. For a typical 650MB cd, this equates to 30800 cds. No need to compress. All compression is lossy to some extent btw. Even a pocket 4T usb ssd = 6153x 650MB cds in uncompressed wav, and you can plug this drive straight into your phone. No need to compress now
@kubrickenigma7977
Жыл бұрын
My audiophile interests are not a hobby. They are my *snobby* ! [Throws scarf over shoulder]
@totallyfrozen
Жыл бұрын
#3 Is absolutely true. In 25 years, I’ve never heard an mp3 or stream that sounds as good as a CD. 5:44 Beyond fun, I’ve decided that physical media is the only thing I really trust anymore. I can’t tell you how much money and how many singles and albums I’ve bought in iTunes only to have the music delete from my device. Then I return to the iTunes Store to restore the purchase and learn that the music is no longer for sale. So when iTunes stops selling it, they steal it back from everyone they had sold it to previously. No warning, no refund. The music is just GONE and unavailable. With CDs and cassettes I’ll always have my music.
@prototype9000
Жыл бұрын
higher bitrates will be indistinguishable from cd
@carmichaelmoritz8662
Жыл бұрын
If you play it through an equalizer there's basically hardly any difference.
@EricCampbellUAV
Жыл бұрын
it depends on how long ago they mixed and mastered the CD. i’m remastering some now
@lucasrem
Жыл бұрын
why you still need CD's ??? this guy is not understanding codecs, mad channel it is!
@lucasrem
Жыл бұрын
@PurpleTurtle hw ia not understanding codecs, computers. He needs a DVD players, mad here!
@j.t.cooper2963
Жыл бұрын
I've bought about 300 CD's over the last couple of years and I've been buying them for 40 years now. I have 40 year old CD's that still sound as good as the day I bought them. You can't say that about any other medium. 💿
@JerrySpann-fn4kw
4 ай бұрын
BUt BrAinWasHeD IdiOts SaY VinYL iS BetTer BeCaUsE iT Is ExPENsIvE
@msh6865
Жыл бұрын
Bought my first CD in 1987 and still buying them today. Yes, a better sounding medium to my ears.
@psrfpsrf
Жыл бұрын
me too, since about 1985, I don‘t no today the exact year, I bought CDs up to know to have my music for my own. But beside this, my mobil music is for several years now in my car on an USB Stick or phone in compressed AAC 320 and at home on a NAS in FLAC Audio via network. So I can hear my music on every floor and Player in my house. The CDs are stored in a separate cabinet.
@moonlambo5229
3 ай бұрын
I regret selling my CDs. Buying most of them back now.
@gypsypath1
Жыл бұрын
#3. YES! CDs just sound _richer_ and _deeper_ than streamed music.
@wojciech5177
5 ай бұрын
eventualy over time the quality will match, but you buy a cd for few dolallars and you have permanent right to that music! you don't rent it and pay for it every time you listen to it, or you listen for free and pay for that music with your time because of advertisment that only interupt your listening experience, that's the biggest factor for me to actualy buy cds it's that you own that music piece
@ThePittsburghToddy
2 жыл бұрын
I worked at Sam Goody for 10 years until ‘95. Until Best Buy and Circuit City came around, full price CDs were $18 and sale prices were typically $14.99. So, current CD pricing is an absolute steal!
@kevinhogaboom3551
2 жыл бұрын
Sam Goody, Strawberries and even Tower Records I feel were overpriced. Newbury Comics had new cds for $9.99 the first week of their release then most of the time they went to $11.99 for normal pricing. I used to love going into Newbury every Tuesday to see the new releases and employee picks
@redstang5150
2 жыл бұрын
Agree, new release CDs back in the late 80s and 90s were expensive. 18 bucks for a single CD?! That's why I was a member of BMG through that time, as they had "buy one at full price, get 3 free" deals all the time. Occasionally it was buy one get 4 free. Of course the "one" was over priced and they charged for shipping and "handling" but on average it came out to about 7 or 8 bucks a piece. Granted, their selection left something to be desired, and their bullshit deal of if you didn't send in the mailing declining a shipment you got charged for the CD of the month, but overall it was still a good deal and really the only way to build your collection economically.
@rosswarren436
2 жыл бұрын
I know I paid $18 for my first CD. It was either Pink Floyd's Dark Side of the Moon or Fleetwood Mac's Rumors. They stayed $18 for a long time it seemed. (And this was back when $18 really was $18 if you get my drift). Was glad when they finally came down to $12 for most.
@ThePittsburghToddy
2 жыл бұрын
@@rosswarren436 Those were two of the first five CDs I purchased. The others were Revolver, CCRs Chronicle, and Eagles Greatest Hits. The Beatles CD was $20. Luckily, I had an employee discount of 30% so most CDs were around $12.40 for me.🖖🏼
@rosswarren436
2 жыл бұрын
@@ThePittsburghToddy man, that employee discount would have been freaking tempting. LOL. Good for you! Funny, I think CCR's Chronicle was in the first 10 CDs I bought too. Crazy times. Records were $5.99 so I still bought more vinyl, but the times they were a-changin'....
@mechanik1313
Жыл бұрын
Roughly a year before the pandemic, Best Buy physical stores were blowing out their CD stock at $3/$4/$5 each, brand new. I scored a ton of Sabbath and other stuff.
@eldermillennial2000
11 ай бұрын
dang. so sad I missed this.
@TheKnobCalledTone.
2 жыл бұрын
CD prices are already beginning to creep up. 5 years ago, I used to be able to good used CDs where I live for $1 each or less. Now they're more like $2-$3 each. Still a great value, but they're only going to get more expensive as more people realise how much bang-for-buck you get and millennials get hit with the same nostalgia bug for CDs that Gen X has for vinyl.
@jaklumen
Жыл бұрын
I am solidly Gen X and much like many of the other commenters here, I would rather deal with CDs all day long, than vinyl LPs and 45s. I found out from my parents' generation what a PITA vinyl record maintenance truly is. CD maintenance isn't a cakewalk either, but.. no, I'm not nostalgic for scratch sounds.
@lizk555
Жыл бұрын
Love this! My 14 year old daughter recently bought a decent bookshelf stereo system with CD player, and she has been blown away by the quality. When she fully understood that the cool thing about CDs is that they are HERS, and no streaming service can decide whether or not to carry artists she likes, she was hooked. (I know this is obvious to older Millennials and up, but man. Once more Gen Z kids catch on, I bet CDs will start going up in price.)
@lucasrem
Жыл бұрын
You should give her a vinyl player !
@lizk555
Жыл бұрын
@@lucasrem I gave her my old one when I upgraded my turntable. She’s just at that point where vinyl’s a little pricey for what she wants.
@nikosidis
Жыл бұрын
Good point! Collecting and owning music will never go away. Good girl :)
@adiktadoalamusika
Жыл бұрын
I’m 13 and love collecting cds! I started with my parents cd wallet with a lot of used up scratched up cds that still work and then this april my mom took me to the store they got them from and I continued to buy them every once and while from there. And the CD player I use is my old play station 3
@waynemyatt8262
Жыл бұрын
@@lucasrem vinyl is too expensive compared to CDs and they takes away from the thrill of collecting. I can usually get an entire catalog from a band on cd for about the price of 2 vinyls.
@alessandroneri8929
Жыл бұрын
CD' rules. The BEST sound quality. Amazing Format. Long live beloved CD!!
@devilsoffspring5519
Жыл бұрын
I like them too, but they're a finicky format that can have problems with laser mistracking, giving a crackly fuzzy sound. I do agree that when the CD player is working properly, even lower-cost players are capable of extraordinarily good sound. I have a 30 year old Philips CD920 that I put a new laser in, and it sounds *great* now for the first time in three decades :) CDs are basically obsolete now because of the widespread availability of solid-state storage such as Micro SD cards, which have no moving parts and are generally trouble free. They're also very compact and cheap. CDs aren't really that compact by today's standards :) I still insist that legitimately-purchased music should be available in a lossless format, but you save it to a memory card and play it on a tablet PC (or other device) connected to your stereo, and you have outstanding sound without the finicky nature of CD players.
@cnhhnc
2 жыл бұрын
I grew up in the age of vinyl, but unlike many vinyl jockeys of my generation, I was deleriously happy when the CD appeared. Before that I was mainly a cassette man because I was NOT able to afford much in my youth during the age of vinyl. The CD was to many of us, a savior. No more pops, clicks, rumble, scratches-endless cleaning and fretting over the medium, and less dynamic range. You think vinyl is NOT compressed? Think again! I bought my first CDP in 1990. A mid-fi Sony that died in 1998. And began collecting CDs. Transitioning from the cassette. I had an AIWA cassette deck, a lower powered Pioneer integrated, and a set of Canadian DB Plus speakers in the late '80s as my first real system. To this I added the Sony CD deck. Later, when I had more money, I bought a set of JBL L80ts and a higher model Kenwood Dolby Receiver (130 watts x 2 @ 8 ohms). And I was off to the races! To this day, the CD remains my primary medium. I don't really do DACs. My two best players are a Harman Kardon HD 990-which can also function as a DAC-has an optical in. And a Jolida Music Van MKIV tube output/input CDP (four tubes, two transformers)-which really warms up that digital sound. Tubes and digital are a wonderful marriage. I prefer to own my music, I do stream, but when I stream I'm less concerned with lossless because it is either to experience some new music, or as background. A good CD can sound great if you have the right equipment. I don't care what the vinyl boys say. I also spin vinyl and my system is more mid-fi there but I don't hear anything fantastic when I'm playing LPs. They sound good enough, but NOT amazing. And, the noise is still usually around.And some records are not that dynamic in range. They don't match the expansiveness of the CD from soft to loud. A GOOD CD that is. The problem? There are a lot of poorly mastered and recorded CDs like there are lps and cassettes.
@gotchagoing8843
2 жыл бұрын
Well said...
@steven2809
2 жыл бұрын
👍
@thomasalexand
2 жыл бұрын
Yup. We had an event outside at my brother's field near Gatwick airport (England) two weekends ago. Around 40 people attended from 2pm to midnight. I used a pair of Q-acoustics BT3 speakers. One was active the other passive. I used my Sony digital audio player and played lossless (.wav) music using Bluetooth. I have over 800 lossless ripped CDs on my Sony player. There was no WiFi near the field but of course that wasn't a problem. I've also archived all the ripped CDs on a portable drive. Own your own music and be in control.
@Sunday_Jazz
2 жыл бұрын
Vinyl and CD hit different. One is not better in my opinion- they are just different and both great to experience. A lot of the sound is amp and speaker setup anyway.
@robertjermantowicz8619
2 жыл бұрын
Smart fellow!
@canonlon311
2 жыл бұрын
One piece of advice I have to say, do a bit of research and find the best sounding CD for a particular title > not all CD’s are created/mastered equally
@jimgardner5129
Жыл бұрын
Recently joined Discogs and I've been snapping up rarities from sellers all over the world. I'm amazed at the quality of product that was pressed 30 years ago, and more! Some folks have taken great care of their CDs over time. CD singles from the 80s and 90s rarely made their way to my little part of the world but now I can scoop the up. The only downside: you can pay more for the shipping than the disc.
@amnonhoppe
Жыл бұрын
Beware of discs manufactured after 1995, they are prone to the loudness war mastering... Look it up
@The_Lunatic_Savant
Жыл бұрын
Great video. I’ll never understand loving a band and not wanting to own the physical copy. I think streaming has devalued music for most people.
@vanman757
Жыл бұрын
Oh, most definetely mate... 🙂👍🏻
@stonecoldfloors8200
Жыл бұрын
My wife and me have this conversation every weekend while listening to records drunk .. lol
@ArtHoward
Жыл бұрын
Imagine seeing your favorite performer at the airport and saying, "Oh, I love your music! I've STREAMED every album!" I bet they would be really impressed with your dedication.
@joshdieckmann595
2 жыл бұрын
I've been collecting CDs for a little over 30 years now, and will continue to do so. Same with vinyl, which I've collected for over 25. I like physical media: the experience of opening it up and looking at the packaging, putting the disc on the platter (or in the tray), reading liner notes and lyrics, and looking at the artwork. It helps solidify the experience, so it's not so ephemeral, like you might get with merely streaming. These days, I stream a lot of my music, but mostly because I buy the CD or vinyl copy, and then either use the download card or rip it to my own home media server, and then I can stream it on my PC at work to listen to there. When I'm at home, as much as possible, I like to actually use the media. Other good reason to own media is this: if you like music that is more niche, or like supporting local/regional artists, often times you can buy their CD at a show or online, and who knows if a year from now they'll still be around. I have a fair number of CDs I bought from bands during the MySpace era, and a scant few of those bands ever escaped the mid-late 2000's. Some of that music is not available in any kind of streaming platform, and not even been uploaded illegally to KZitem. I used to go to a good number of smaller shows, and would try to buy demos and independent releases from bands when I would go, to help support them on the road. Most of that stuff is no longer available online in any format. But since I have the CD, I can still listen to it, or make my own backup copy on my media server.
@johnjeffery6638
Жыл бұрын
Dude you wrote a book somewhere in there too😃
@hodumx
Жыл бұрын
Hey boss, would you mind telling us what these hard to find artists and CDs is that you are referring to? Id appreciate it!
@joshdieckmann595
Жыл бұрын
@@hodumx I bought a lot of demos and indie CDs during the MySpace era, for example. Or a lot of faith based heavy metal and hard rock stuff that goes out of print quickly. Or video game soundtracks that go out of print really fast.
@hodumx
Жыл бұрын
@@joshdieckmann595 man, I’ll keep a lookout for that sort of thing in the discount and second hand stores, as well as the 7 oceans of course. Thank you!
@christopher9727
Жыл бұрын
2 Peter 3:9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance. Hebrews 11:6 6 But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him. John 3:16-21 16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. 17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. 18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. 19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. 20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. 21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God. Mark 1.15 15 And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel.
@redstang5150
2 жыл бұрын
I am a dinosaur that still buys CDs as my #1 option for acquiring new music. Purchasing used CDs on ebay for around 5 bucks a piece is a great way to grow your collection. As certain albums are sometimes hard to acquire on CD, now that FLAC files are available for purchase on a few sites (like bandcamp) I have become accustomed to buying those since there's not a sound quality sacrifice over getting the CD, and I always rip my CDs to FLAC anyway. Last option is to buy mp3s because I want my own copy regardless. I have no paid streaming plans - my library of almost 10,000 songs is effectively my own streaming service.
@alphaniner3770
2 жыл бұрын
It certainly feels good to be a dinosaur! - Bandcamp - yeah!
@thomasalexand
2 жыл бұрын
Way to go.
@musestarlight1
Жыл бұрын
That's a ton of money for something unnecessary 😂 $10 a month all the music in the world
@nikosidis
Жыл бұрын
I'm just like you bro. :D
@redstang5150
Жыл бұрын
@@musestarlight1 Hardly any of that goes to the artists, and at literally any moment they can lose/change their licensing agreement and you lose access to it. It's worth it to me. If I was starting from zero right now it would probably be harder to justify, but my collection was mostly built before these streaming services were even available. Not that expensive to keep adding now.
@icenic_wolf
2 жыл бұрын
Remember in the early 2000s when Microsoft accidentally deleted everybody's Zune libraries? That was reinforcement enough for me to decide to never ever sell my CD collection. Which sound better than any streaming service anyway.
@FogAndLime
2 жыл бұрын
no doubt AT ALL-----CDs will ALWAYS sound better than streaming. Not just a little bit better----WAY BETTER. Streaming is basically the dumpiest, least interesting, least musical, least complete way to listen to any music, bar none.
@labnine3362
Жыл бұрын
I have been buying CDs since 1986 and have thousands of them. They are still my favorite format despite the fact that I do love vinyl too. Physical media rocks! My favorite CD player so far is the Marantz ND8006 (solid and useful AF and sounds AMAZING) and the second favorite is an Onkyo C-7030. Newbies: before 10 years ago, it was pretty common to find used vinyl for $3. The markup in the last few years is legitimately insane.
@michaelkeefer4293
2 жыл бұрын
I have an old Pioneer CD player from the late 80s that still works perfectly and sounds really good. Another good point about buying CDs is to help support the artists that you enjoy that are currently making music.
@michaelkeefer4293
2 жыл бұрын
@Lauren Glenn I do.
@kunpunko
2 жыл бұрын
@Lauren Glenn yes..? but what’s so bad about a CD instead of a vinyl? much cheaper anyways
@AndrewEbling
Жыл бұрын
Maybe if you buy the CD from a buskers on the street, otherwise most of it goes in the record companies pocket.
@wal
2 жыл бұрын
Great video and I concur! CD's are awesome and have been since they first came out 👍
@gq1foru
2 жыл бұрын
Randy, thank you for this!!! I ripped my entire cd collection 5 years ago. My friends make fun of me because they feel the music they stream is just as good. Glad to know I was right all along and wasn't wasting my time ripping cd's! One of my friends had a whiskey tasting party at his home and his internet kept cutting out, so we used the ripped music on my phone....yet another advantage!
@haqitman
Жыл бұрын
I like CDs because they sound great, they are maximum resolution after all. I don't have to deal with ads, or being profiled or algorighmed, or paying a monthly fee that if I stop playing I lose access to my music. I'll take a CD over vinyl any day. I actually own a physical copy of the music I love forever. I can even pass them down to our kids. And now we can all get them at what should have been the price all along, $5-$10. The only downside really is that the cases are fragile and the artwork is much smaller format, handled by ripping them losslessly to digital media (they are digital to start with after all) and keeping the physical media as the archive copy. Long live CDs!
@winnie2379
Жыл бұрын
My adult son listened to a lot of CDs in his high school years and of course, when he moved out, his stuff didn’t. He had CD wallets with the discs to save space & to be able to transport all of the discs with him on overnight trips. I spent a couple of hours last wk reuniting discs with their liner notes & cases. He probably won’t want these back, but at least they’re organized now.
@NiteJerk
Жыл бұрын
I'll take em
@eddieatoms5041
Жыл бұрын
Damn. Winnie, you’re the real MVP
@SRMoore1178
Жыл бұрын
You rule! Now, are they in alphabetical order?
@winnie2379
Жыл бұрын
@@SRMoore1178 maybe one day….giving him last chance to claim them during holidays.
@thisistheend_777
Жыл бұрын
@@winnie2379 yes! Do not sell! Save for him even if he says sell them....save them quietly & hide them! Never sell!!!
@nicholasjones3207
Жыл бұрын
3 failed hard drives have shown me the value of physical copies. Entire collections winked out in a flash.
@ettoredivirgilius8789
2 жыл бұрын
Back in the day, I had all the club membership, RCA -->BMG, Columbia House, and paid an average of 3 bucks per CD. Bought on sale in bulk. Worked for me. I have 1200 CDs
@Sunday_Jazz
2 жыл бұрын
I adore CDs! At home I prefer records but in my photographic studio I'm spinning CD's. I'm now doubling up on titles and already the prices are high. I do love how new releases on CD's are in cardboard sleeves. Makes it feel a lot more analogue. Better for the planet too. I'm currently spinning Adore by Pumpkins on CD and its utterly brilliant. The 2011 remaster of Pink Floyd the Wall on CD is also breathtaking.
@upupandaway5646
Жыл бұрын
I agree get them while you can
@groofoot
Жыл бұрын
I also have multiple copies of my favorite CDs! I always keep a couple copies of my favorite titles IN the shrink wrap! ** Unrelated note, regarding Floyd, have you seen that Roger Waters is re-recording DSOTMoon all by himself? .... Something tells me it's going to be a let down .... the man's almost 80, for heaven's sake .....
@vrakula
Жыл бұрын
I hate the cd cardboard sleeves. Very easy to make fine scratches to the disc when sliding it in and put..
@donaldspaulding6973
2 жыл бұрын
So much good advice here! Exact audio copy is by far the best program out there. The CD has an Achilles heel with the optical part being prone to damage and errors. But EAC fixes that! If nothing else, the CD is a license to listen in your home. Same goes for DVD and your favorite movies. You don't have to pay an online service to watch it, which is going to be the new norm with the masses of the newer generations.
@EgoChip
Жыл бұрын
Not only do you not need to pay to stream it if you own it on CD/DVD, they are also not tracking your listening or viewing habits and using that data for marketing and selling it on.
@paulhardison863
2 жыл бұрын
Yes cd's sound way better
@kojirosasaki6200
2 жыл бұрын
I bought a McIntosh dvd universal disc player that was a floor model about 15 years ago. I used it mostly for movies and stopped using it for a long time after DVDs were succeeded by Blu-ray. I recently played a CD in it and was astonished of how good it was. I think it’s the best sounding component in my rig. The DVD player has a Burr-Brown DAC. I listen to my cd collection a lot more.
@jamestartaglia7686
2 жыл бұрын
Yep burr -brown 🤎 the best !!!!!! I look for everything that has there old chips......
@donde2k
2 жыл бұрын
I use a McIntosh MVP881 Blu-Ray/DVD/CD/SACD player. It is truly wonderful.
@gregkerbel1730
2 жыл бұрын
@@donde2k Yes the Burr Brown chip is the best IMHO. It's in my Primaluna Evo 100 tube DAC have at least 6 other dacs in the house
I agree with you and the channel but the real price barrier that nobody seems to address -anywhere, anytime- is how to get around paying big money for an a/v receiver. New ones basically start at $500 and those are low end. The only used ones are either ancient with inappropriate inputs/outputs or in need of repair. I have limited free money and this has been my main barrier for years. Does anybody have any legitimate suggestions here? I wish this channel would address it in a 30 minute video
@filofilo8127
2 жыл бұрын
I still collect CD's when I can't find the vinyl version. CD's used is also a good way to build your music collection on the cheap. The physical media is tactile and gives you a sense of ownership. Digital is good but disposable.
@krwd
2 жыл бұрын
Ditto
@trickfall8752
2 жыл бұрын
The number one reason for me to have CD's around is there are some things that just aren't available on streaming services. Mostly it's random b sides from a single CD, or super indie releases, but there are also records that for some reason are just not available to stream. For example I really love the debut album by this band The Real People and even though it was released on Sony I've never been able to find it streaming anywhere. I do have my CD copy though.
@mrmuffer69
2 жыл бұрын
I agree 100% I have lots of stuff promos singles and more that are not available to stream.
@JoseMorales-lw5nt
Жыл бұрын
RIGHT ON, AUDIOPHILES! I just laugh at the fact that I pay a monthly subscription to KZitem MUSIC. And yet, I can't download any Jimi Hendrix albums! Meanwhile, my CD collection has a great set of BEST OF collections. Yup, THE JIMI HENDRIX EXPERIENCE happens to be one of those 💿!
@Harald_Reindl
Жыл бұрын
I have FLAC files you couldn't buy at physical media at all in my 100k tracks library
@Harald_Reindl
Жыл бұрын
@@mrmuffer69 you guys think there is only the decision between physical media and streaming? I ditched physical media long before I had a Internet connection
@darthdurkelthewise320
2 жыл бұрын
IMO, if you choose any single way to enjoy your music, you’re backing yourself into a corner and there is significant compromise one way or the other (price, availability, sq). I find it better to pull and enjoy from some streaming, some vinyl, and yes for me mostly CD. Lastly, considering the recent MOFI analog controversy you’re wasting a lot of time hand-wringing over the format when you can just enjoy your music. CDs will not be dying any time soon. Good video as always!
@geraldmartin7703
2 жыл бұрын
The MoFi online hand wringing and hair pulling is fascinating. Especially for an audio agnostic like me:
@davidshepherd265
2 жыл бұрын
@@geraldmartin7703 I have one MoFi album, bought it because it was half price from memory, and a good deal. It does sound very good, to me anyway, but my ears are shot, and while I appreciate and enjoy high quality music, I don't need the best of the best of the best. I wouldn't pay stupid prices for their stuff, but for the right price I'd definitely buy more.
@burliesanford1863
2 жыл бұрын
Hey Randy , about 1984 or 85 I bought a 100 watt Curtis Mathis rack system and it had dual cassette, turn table with equalizer. I had to buy a separate CD player to make a pretty decent two channel system . I bought my first CD at the local Wally World for right at 26 bucks , Boston their first album More Than A Feeling and their was no comparison in my opinion when I cranked Boston up . CD's were a great delight to my ears , the main drawback being at the time they were about 10 bucks higher per album over vinyl. I thought it couldn't any better when it came to crystal clear music. The CD's were high priced at the time and worth it , no flipping the vinyl and best of all everything on one side with no stylus sound just loud clear music. The good old days , I'm 65 years of age now and I still like my tunes played loud . CD's did the trick and still do .
@doplinger1
2 жыл бұрын
I recently dug mine out from storage (I had about 500 discs) and I’m reripping them at a high bitrate, then putting them on display again. I was nearly at a point a year or two ago where I was going to sell them all!
@heywood165
3 ай бұрын
320kbps was the one thing I always disliked about iTunes/Apple music. I ripped all my cds to lossless as soon as the cost of memory came down to a good value and always buy cd over download.
@markmcqueen1882
2 жыл бұрын
I grew up with vinyl. When CDs hit the market, I ditched vinyl and never looked back. Good quality (recorded and mastered) CDs are just as good as good quality vinyl, IMO, and you don't have to suffer through the drawbacks of vinyl records (careful handling, cleaning, and most of all wear and tear). It's a PITA that I don't miss and I'm not inclined to return to. I also agree CDs sound better than streaming. More CDs is a good thing. :)
@Gman1044
2 жыл бұрын
Just like I don't miss chemical based photography.
@risingempireentertainment
2 жыл бұрын
records kill cds. Cant defeat real audio
@Hirnlego999
2 жыл бұрын
Still better to have on harddrives You can often quite easily find better sounding masters in digital format so you can actually even store several variants without the hassle of changing discs
@ENGLISHISBEST
2 жыл бұрын
Come on you lot getting eggy over different formats, they all have a place in music & suit all today. I have vinyl, tapes, cd's ,hundreds of hi res flac albums on hard drives & usb & I stream. It's about versatility and access to whatever we need now unlike years ago when we could maybe go to town buy the album or single normally one or 2 at a time & treasure the sleeve, reading it back to front & playing it a few times a day until next pay day. Sometimes ordering from abroad waiting for 2 weeks before it arrived. It's nice it's convenient today but not the same excitement. Today its mc donalds fast food style.
@ENGLISHISBEST
2 жыл бұрын
@@Hirnlego999 No its not. Hard drive is cold convenient music. Like turning on tapped beer when there are special bottled versions to savour. I take it you have never experienced proper music ownership or got a decent vinyl collection started about 50 years ago to treasure to re- visit & bring back memories of those days you bought it. I can picture in my mind where I purchased every album & memories of friends/girlfriends, family, places, age & fashion. Hard drive phewey. Only good for back ups really or in car.
@davenhla
2 жыл бұрын
About CD sound quality- A lot, and I mean A LOT of music that came out in the hay day of CD, mostly the early to mid 90's, was not re-recorded for digital streaming. A lot of it was "ripped" into a computer system and then converted using software many years back. This can work ok, or it can work pretty lousy depending on the age of the conversion and software used. Obviously old conversions used old software and it left a mark. Sometimes the bass sounds like it is playing out of a speaker with a towel over the woofer, or sounds like the speaker was underwater, or playing through a pane of glass. For a listener that never heard the music when it was "new" back then or heard it from physical media, they might not notice. Sometimes the drum beats become blurred, or "sharp but muted" if that makes sense.... sound levels can be out of whack..... it is pretty noticeable on certain music side by side. Plus, physical media is a thing. And by that I mean, EVERYTHING is going to "as a service" which means they want you to pay them money every month and then STILL buy titles. Except when you stop paying every month your stuff is locked. They are doing this with video games, even options like heated seats in cars! DON'T LET THEM LOCK YOUR MUSIC COLLECTION BEHIND A MONTHLY PAYMENT. Get physical media. Get NON BLUE TOOTH players for your media. Why non blue tooth? Amazon Sidewalk. Look it up if you don't know what it is. I recommend thrift stores for CD players. Local GoodWill has given me a dozen "old" CD players for less then $5 per. 2 of them didn;t work right. One of them was missing a power cord. All of them cost at least $150 when new, the most expensive one I found was a JVC 200 disc jukebox style that worked perfectly($499 new). 1990's big name brand CD players, well, a few had crappy DAC(Sony was hit and miss) but a lot of them had top notch and if they still work, they work. I have enough to last the rest of my life and it cost me like $60. Much harder to find old players for Vinyl at the thrift.
@montmn
Жыл бұрын
I'm certainly not an audiophile. When I rip my music to mp3, I do so at 128. I also listen to poorly recorded goregrind & slam. My reason to buy my media, is ownership. When you purchase a physical copy, it has tangible value. It can be resold, passed down, admired, etc. The whole Klaus Schwab "you will own nothing & be happy" never appealed to me. I own my home, my car, my physical hard drives, & my cd/dvds/records (& cassettes). They are mine & I have total control of them.
@Billjpb19
Жыл бұрын
Your video absolutely got me thinking about CDs again. I pulled out my CD binder from the 90s and 2000s. I'm stoked! I was at Goodwill and found brand new CDs from unknown artists that I have never heard of, still in the shrink wrap. I bought Switch Foot, Black Crows, and Verseria (A local Indianapolis Band) for $2 each. I am back on board for CDs! Thank you so much for this video!
@drewtheunspoken3988
Жыл бұрын
I like Switch Foot and Black Crows. I've never heard of Verseria.
@Blahmanwhysoserious
2 жыл бұрын
My main reason for buying cds for me is to avoid a situation where an artist only offers a remaster digital, I still have my old Megadeth cds before all the remaster/tinkering and literally no other way to hear the originals without my cds. It’s like having the original star wars on vhs where Han Solo shot first
@pauln6803
2 жыл бұрын
The remixed Megadeth CDs are awful! They've had so much polish applied that they sound more like pop music.
@thomasalexand
2 жыл бұрын
Not a complete fan of remastered CDs. The remaster of Bowie's Ziggy Stardust is awful.
@Blahmanwhysoserious
2 жыл бұрын
@@pauln6803 yeah I recently re ripped all my cds to lossless, and was thankful I hung onto all my collection I amassed during the 90s and 2000s. There is always a headache with some of the purchased digital tracks as well, freaking iTunes has errored out on me thinking some tracks aren't available in my region. With my cds/files I dont have to deal with any of that bs.
@pauln6803
2 жыл бұрын
@@Blahmanwhysoserious Let's be honest, remasters are usually a way to milk more money from fans. The Metallica remasters are barely distinguishable to the originals and I've already expressed my disdain for what Dave and his ego did to Peace Sells, So Far, and Rust In Peace. But... I have to say the Relapse records remasters of the Death albums are excellent as they were remixed to give the instruments a bit more separation without losing any of the aggression. Plus there's extra liner notes and the addition of lots of demos and live performances. I too spent weeks of ripping hundreds of CDs, and polishing the now hard/impossible to come by ones I'd mistreated in my teenage years! Don't do iTunes, won't do streaming and if I can help it (price/availability) I prefer not to give Amazon any money because they're too big and I don't like the way they treat the employees. My money tends to go through Bandcamp these days as I can purchase a recording, the artist (or at least the label if it's not self published) gets a decent share and there's no DRM or proprietary formats to stop me copying the files to any storage or using playback device I so choose. If it wasn't for the difficulty and expense of obtaining non mainstream CDs here in post brexit Britain (I used to import a lot from the EU, Switzerland and before the shipping got ridiculous, the US) I'd probably still be buying CDs.
@bobbydmonkey
2 жыл бұрын
I remember I used to have CD players that would let you “program” your own track list. I used to like to rearrange the order of the tracks on the cd so that they flowed better than the original track order.
@Harald_Reindl
Жыл бұрын
But the usability was a pain in the ass compared with a proper software combination like mpd + cantata
@dkeener13
2 жыл бұрын
#11 - it supports the artist, a lot more than the fractions of a penny they get when you stream their music, especially if you buy new. #12 - it supports the efforts to remaster, reissue, and to otherwise bring old recordings new life. you get audiophile reissues without paying $100+ per LP, and without needing a $1000+ vinyl rig to hear the difference.
@twisted2291
2 жыл бұрын
New CD sales. The artist still makes pennies on them. Artists always make their money touring. The record companies make a good 85% of the money made on media sales. The Reissuing and Remastering of the media falls to the artist. They are the ones that make the decision to this 90% of the time. Most of them wait until they can buy the rights back from the record company. Then they remaster there stuff to make it the way they wanted it to sound. If it was up to the record companies. They would beat a dead horse.
@dkeener13
2 жыл бұрын
on a big label they only make $.50 or so per disc. if they publish themselves, as many now do, then the artists gets everything but overhead. it's not much but it's a lot more than they get from Spotify.
@dougfa3515
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, that means more to me now than it used to when I was younger.
@totallyfrozen
Жыл бұрын
@@dkeener13 50 cents a disc would be an insanely great contract! Most artists make literally fractions of a penny per disc.
@EricB256
Жыл бұрын
#3: Yes, very much so. It's kind of sad that many self-releasing artists have given up on releasing their albums on CD over the past 5 years at least. At the moment, I've got quite the wishlist of music that is not available in lossless sound. 10 years ago, I used to write to artists and /or indie labels directly, if an album that I want has not been released in anything other than mp3 or vinyl (read: not on CD) to ask them if I can buy a lossless copy from tthem directly, with the goal to burn my own jewel case CD version of it for my home stereo. And every time I got a reply to that, it was a positive one and we had a deal. Due to being busy with work, I rarely get to do that now, hence the workload. For example, I managed to write to an artist with that intention only once this year. And the album in question that came out in 2015 is really beautiful. Also, in the used CD store in town (in Germany), I've never seen as many great rare albums on CD for very affordable prices than I have done this year. The advantage of CD over streams is that you don't need to have a safety copy because it is supposed to "last a lifetime of listening enjoyment", as it said on the original packaging in the 80s, and that streams can disappear without prior notice for seemingly no reason whatsoever. Downloads do not have a booklet with information on who plays what on the album, whereas CDs mostly do. The names of the musicians playing the good stuff usually have been the kind of information to look for that's very useful for my new music discovery process. Whereas the self-learning algorithms of streaming sites recommend you stuff based on your prior input, and will thus not broaden your mind musically, following favorite musicians and producers playing on other people's CDs will, because often, these musicians will branch out into musical styles that you are not familiar with yet. Also, there is so many great music out there to enjoy!
@coisasnatv
Жыл бұрын
#3 True! Record the output, load into audacity or something to see that the streaming has a cut at 15 KHz range, just like crap mp3's from the 90's (and people pay money for it!). Not to say that, if you loose your connection (for whatever reason, no streaming for you). #4 Not so much, there are better options than EAC like CUETools (has EAC plugin) and fre:ac, it extract and convert the track with the exact same quality among other features, like access to MusicBrainz (music database).
@squallywally
2 жыл бұрын
It is fun making mix CDs. Like the jcard of days gone by, I make CD outer sleeves using heavy weight card stock and print up some cool artwork and fold it up like a mini album cover to hand out to my friends. I like to use Verbatum's Digital Vinyl blank Cds, I print custom labels and it looks like a tiny 45 record. ps. I still make mixtapes.
@davediaz5127
2 жыл бұрын
I loved mix tapes, and mix cds, then mixed USB drives....
@pnichols6500
2 жыл бұрын
I have an older Epson printer that holds printable CDs (if they are even made anymore) and with the software, you could make pretty cool CDs, plus the software will print jewel case labels that look commercial quality.
@lurkersmith810
2 жыл бұрын
Well, dang it, I guess the secret's out, and I'm going to have a harder time finding cheap CDs now. I was really hoping the cassette comeback was going to stick around a while longer, but who's going to put up with tape hiss and the cheap transports they make nowadays? I figured as soon as people got tired of vinyl's surface noise and the inconvenience of flipping the record over, they'd rediscover cassettes, and the logical next step would be CDs, just like we went through in the 1980s! I'm all for new albums coming out on CD because I never stopped buying them. I just hope the recording engineers get over the "loudness wars", brick walling, and smiley face EQ, and let CDs be as awesome as they can be. They're durable as hell and can take a lot more abuse than vinyl (though you can still kill a CD), and they don't all last forever like we thought they would (look up "CD Rot" in your favorite search engine), but they are the most durable medium I've seen so far.
@rodzilla47
2 жыл бұрын
I still buy CD's! I had 3 delivered yesterday. Until recently, I was playing them on an Oppo BDP-105 but upgraded to a Cambridge Audio CXC transport and an Ares II DAC. To me, the transport/DAC combination is the best way to go as it is easier to upgrade when newer technology appears. I always enjoy your videos and I still don't drink coffee.
@TheJohnnyNormal
2 жыл бұрын
I got the Cambridge recently as well, running through Qutest, damn fine transport.
@lucasrem
Жыл бұрын
You need a better source! CD's are bad codecs! or are you some of the grid freak too? DIESEL generator music ??
@TheJohnnyNormal
Жыл бұрын
@@lucasrem Coal burner, diesel is for children. The thick black smoke makes things more relaxing.
@rodzilla47
Жыл бұрын
@@lucasrem What????
@wendyokoopa7048
Жыл бұрын
Honestly yes buy what you ❤️ now. Preferably shrink wrapped if possible. I learned this the hard way a few years ago even though I still haven't acted on my own words. I was a Spotify user for over 5 years starting way back when i dated my ex. One day I wanted to listen to my new favorite tragically hip song Another Midnight so I went to my playlist to click on it and it was gone the album was a victim of Taylor's last award show meltdown. 😪. When you own the music you can import it through iTunes and Spotify and then it's there wherever you want.
@lucasrem
Жыл бұрын
Wendy O Koopa Honesty, this guy is a mad of the grid freak on a DIESEL generator, mad ! you never need it on his hard way!
@richiereyn
Жыл бұрын
I think the differences in sound quality are often due to the remastering that's going on with the current releases which are on the streaming platforms. I've got CDs that sound great and sound identical when I stream on Qobuz, and I've got CDs that obviously sound so much better. I really think it's the remastered versions that often in my experience sound worse, and that's the real difference more than the delivery system Itself.
@fffrrraannkk
Жыл бұрын
A lot of modern remasters (2000's-ish to present) suffer from brickwalling. Nevermind by Nirvana is a good example. I haven't checked any out recently but I would imagine it's the law of the land by now.
@jasondevers
2 жыл бұрын
99 cents to 1.50 at my local thrift stores and love the hunt. You can also use Plex to host your exact audio copy rips as your own streaming service.
@dmcbain44
2 жыл бұрын
Albums disappear from streaming services all the time and it annoys the hell out of me. At one point Nirvana’s Incesticide disappeared from my streaming service. I found a copy at the first used book store I went to for $4.99. I haven’t been able to stream Deguello by ZZ Top for a couple of years. Found a brand new copy at Barnes and Noble yesterday for $10.99. Another album that I discovered on streaming that has now disappeared from all streaming services but I can’t even find in any format is The Ecstatic by Mos Def.
@redstang5150
2 жыл бұрын
This defines the issue with streaming audio and video services. These services aren't archival libraries that have access to the content forever, so if something is rarely getting played they don't want to pay the licensing for it anymore and it is gone. Nothing beats having your own library that is forever yours.
@davidwald2938
2 жыл бұрын
I consider Duegello one of their best and its the album that introduced me to ZZ Top in the 80's. I noticed it went away too and was glad I had the cd. Wish I still had the album. Replaced them all with cd and gave away 500 vinyls 25 yrs. ago because cd easier to tote when moving (sigh)
@vivlund
2 жыл бұрын
So funny, my husband and I got out our old CD collection that dates to about 1986 and beyond last week. We had forgotten just how good CD’s sound - much better than streaming- I completely agree, we’re going to start buying CD’s again!
@M3LTUP
Жыл бұрын
I collect CDs too. 1-The sound quality is better than streaming. 2-I like owning the physical media. One day CDs will have a renaissance just like vinyl. And people will wish they bought them when they were $5-10.
@TECHNOIR
Жыл бұрын
Always hated them - 10 Reasons not to buy the bloody things: (They cost near next to nothing in the UK - 10 for a pound - but you get what you pay for) 1. They are a constant reminder given they cost 10 pence now and £16.99 once that you were duped by an ingenious capitalist con and fell for it. 2. Disk rot - I have/had a copy of 'Just For a Second' by Orlando on a CD single - I also have the 7" - guess which one is flaking and disintegrating within its sleeve - it ain't the vinyl. 3. Those pesky cases, with the collapsed centre circle and the sad, little plastic nodes that fly across the room when you move the booklet within 6 feet of them. 4. The scant amount of collectible CDs - The Manics had a fine range of Japanese only releases, with excellent artwork, different tracks etc, yes on CD! photos you'd never seen - Good luck finding anything at Goodwill, or even Discogs under the price of a small car that deserves a better life than a beer coaster. 5. The artwork - Simply insulting, even to the blind. 6. The tragedy of those American 'longboxes' that were supposed to be thrown away! a sop to those who bought vinyl and were perhaps missing a piece of cardboard that was barely an eighth the size of a vinyl sleeve. See no 1. 7. When record companies realised (planned?) that they could press 5,000 CD singles for the price of the marketing budget for 500 45s (you know, those things that people actually want), there was a dearth of good singles released on vinyl from 1997 - 2007, with many, many casualties - No 45s of 'The Boy with the Arab Strap' by Belle and Sebastian, or 'Shampain' by Marina and the Diamonds for you son, how about this CDr promo? :/ 8. The biggest selling albums on (the physical medium of) CD speak of their audience - Simply Red, Robbie Williams, Coldplay, Michael Buble, James Blunt - music for people who simply don't like music and never wanted it in their house in the first place. 9. Nobody ever boasted of having a CD collection, those that do, run a successful landfill company. 10. CDs do not hold their intrinsic value - (can rip them to FLAC but that requires a PC, laptop, server, Cloud etc) or their extrinsic value, they are ugly as sin and fundamentally an ephemeral format that was never, ever as cute as the cassette - dat's my ten cents, the price of a CD.
@tomflanagan3889
2 жыл бұрын
Lots of great points. I also think buying high quality downloads (like FLAC) and burning to a CD is also a good option for those CDs that have gone out of print and are ungodly expensive. Always important to have back ups. Sometimes albums just get removed from streaming services.
@labnine3362
Жыл бұрын
Qobuz is a great service for buying FLAC. I have purchased hundreds of albums from them and you get the hi-res for a low cost. As a nice service, they let you stream the albums you buy for free too. No subscription required.
@tomflanagan3889
Жыл бұрын
@@labnine3362 I recently discovered Quboz download store. Love it!
@labnine3362
Жыл бұрын
@@tomflanagan3889 Early on, I used Tidal but was unhappy with the music discovery. Another thing I wasn't fond of was the almost exclusive promotion of hip-hop over other genres. With Qobuz, they push the classical, jazz, rock, country, hip hop right to the front and allow you to toggle a preference. I'm hooked - it's a great service. I have found so many cool new jazz artists and some indie rock I never would have otherwise stumbled on.
@ts214121
Жыл бұрын
Sometimes tracks are omitted from soundtracks on streaming services. I couldn't listen to "Greased Lightning" on the Grease soundtrack recently on a streaming service. I ran into a similar problem with the Waiting to Exhale soundtrack.
@denver-gi7ot
Жыл бұрын
Yeah I just download uncompressed files and burn them to audio CDs.
@rosswarren436
2 жыл бұрын
CDs are 40 years old this year. Pretty amazing. They have lasted longer than any other physical medium other than vinyl. As the advertising on some demo CDs said in 1982, "Hear the light..."
@geraldmartin7703
2 жыл бұрын
I own thousands of the things, collected since the dawn of the CD era. My only frustration is the technology is four decades old and the disc playing time still 78-80 minutes. Why not audio only DVDs with multiple hours playing times with same sound quality?
@rosswarren436
2 жыл бұрын
@@geraldmartin7703 would have required a new schema (how the full-bandwidth audio tracks are laid down and the information of how to play them) for DVD or later Blu-ray for audio only. I guess no one was willing to take the chance on it. Any manufacturer would have had to get "buy in" from some of the record labels, and labels generally hate having too many formats to deal with (and advertising costs). So, such cool ideas died on the vine. But yeah, imagine a whole "box set" on ONE disc, with even static covers, lyrics, and band photos that would be displayed on a TV while the music played. I think after the death (non-adoption) of the better sounding DSD based SACD both the labels and manufacturers were happy to just stick to CD and vinyl, something consumers "understood" and wouldn't need education about. I remember all the confusion (and misinformation) regarding SACDs. Many wrongly thought they were "20-bit CDs" and didn't have a clue what DSD was all about.
@charlienyc1
2 жыл бұрын
@@geraldmartin7703 There were attempts in the early 2000s yielding the DVD-A and SACD formats which were in competition with each other for the next new format. I liked the sound of SACD so didn't pay much attention to DVD-A. Evidently most people didn't pay attention to either due to the rise of the MP3, which was a much more convenient format. Besides, I always thought albums made when LPs were the prevailing format were better: 44 minutes of carefully curated music > 79 minutes of the same plus whatever else fit on the disc. By the time you hit track 14 it started to get tedious. To hear hours of music by one artist, just listen to more than one album.
@davidwald2938
2 жыл бұрын
@@charlienyc1 lol, all I do these days is overpay for old SACDs and DVD Audio's. Rarely buy CD's cause I can just stream but not in surround. I'd be embarrassed to say what I paid for Aerosmith's Toys in the Attic but when I got it...it was worth every penny. So glad I finally discovered hi res surround. Better late than never
@charlienyc1
2 жыл бұрын
@@davidwald2938 Yup, I started buying them again once I realized they could be ripped. Then I bought some music on NativeDSD because evidently I hadn't spent enough yet!
@eximusic
2 жыл бұрын
Yes, I agree. My CDs sound better than streaming Amazon HD through my Bluesound Node (VPN fed) and both going through the same DAC. That's my experience and it's consistent.
@jn3750
2 жыл бұрын
not when steaming via USB!
@eximusic
2 жыл бұрын
@@jn3750 I'm a musician first, audiophile second. I like album art, the conceptual side, lyrics, credits, etc. And all in one handy place when I put the album on. And I often listen to albums instead of songs. Having said that I stream a lot now just because of the convenience.
@carlopatargo5913
Жыл бұрын
Your friends lie to you (not on purpose, of course). I compared CD and streaming: can't hear a difference. First, my equipment: Cambidge CXC transport; Topping E50 DAC; Rotel RB-1070 amplifier; Kef Q350 speakers; Yamaha YST-SW800 subwoofer. No preamp, just a passive volume control between the DAC and the amplifier (no digital volume control either or any DSP). The CXC is connected to the E50 with TOSLINK; the stream comes from Qobuz and Tidal using Roon to a RPi with Ropieee and to the DAC via USB. I picked a CD that was made in Europe (reliable print) and that Tidal and Qobuz had at 44.1/16 (no MQA, of couse). I also compared the CD against the FLAC I ripped from it. This last test, I've done before and the sound is identical, as expected (being the connection to the DAC the only difference). The CD, by the way, was Bowie's Aladdin Sane., 2013 remaster. The weak link in the test are my ears, of course, but I think streaming and CD sound the same. The should, because are suppose to be the same bits arriving to the DAC. On the other hand, I hear a slight improvement when I use Hi-Res from the streaming service.
@dermasder5362
2 жыл бұрын
You nailed it! I never stopped buying CD´s, and i never bought more Cd´s than during the pandemic! I don´t see the point paying for something what doesn't belong to me. I love my Cd´s and Vinyls, i started with them, and i´ll die with them! And another point...... It´s more environmentally friendly! 😉 Think of all the servers you need for streaming! Again and again and again...... 🥴
@Matt-fl6ys
2 жыл бұрын
With vinyl making it's comeback, the CD market is really good. Sometimes cheaper than buying a digital copy, been buying them on mass to build up my music library. Exact copy in it's report also tells you how much the song is peaked, telling you if the song is a victim of the volume wars.
@MrWinger1951
2 жыл бұрын
With a collection of over 2000 CDs, bought over the last 35 years, I agree with your assessments, especially #3. Yes, I spend more listening time with streaming, but that is for convenience and discovery. And I don't buy CDs much anymore, but I do with special albums and artists. The CD format will be around for a very long time yet to come.
@gotchagoing8843
2 жыл бұрын
My collection of cd's tops out at a bit over 600. I have no vinyl, and don't want it either.
@tentonhammer5469
2 жыл бұрын
I've also been collecting cds hard Rock and metal for over 25 yrs slowed down alot a few yrs back now only get 1 or 2 a month if that. Have over 3000 albums. When people see my collection for the first time they say haven't you heard of Spotify.
@TheStOne1
Жыл бұрын
I don't have a CD player anymore and computers lack cd player/recorder nowadays. It's the industry's fault, they don't want us to buy CDs.
@dilvishpa5776
Жыл бұрын
#3 shouldn’t get you in hot water since it is a fact, not just an opinion. The Nyquist Sampling Theorem states that FULL audio fidelity is achieved when the sampling frequency is 2x the desired audio frequency. Oversampling is used because because the sampling introduces sampling subharmonics of the sampling frequency that are filtered out using analog filters with a 6dB/octave efficiency, so the sampling frequency needs to be moved far enough from the max desired audio frequency to reduce the noise to be sub-audible. Anyway, 2x audio frequency is REQUIRED to reproduce TRUE audio fidelity … that is what a CD uses to achieve 22kHz reproduction with 120dB signal-to-noise (sampling bit size). That is the SMALLEST that music can be made digitally to be true (“lossless” audio sampling algorithms are a fraud). So, the current CD size was chosen to fit Bethoven’s 9th Symphony on a single disk (Aiko Morita’s favorite piece of music and one of the most popular musical pieces in Japan. The inventor of the CD technology is actually Phillips Electronics who wanted to use the MiniDisk size until they asked Sony to partner with them to avoid a format war like with the Compact Cassette. So Sony’s contribution was to change the size to what we now know as the Compact Disk). Anyway, anything smaller than 2x frequency is substandard quality audio, which includes ALL compressed audio. The compression flaws in MP3 and equivalents are obvious with music that has a high dynamic range in frequency and amplitude, like classical or some new age music. Our Physics of HiFi professor demonstrated that rock music infidelity is largely unimportant by adding 20% distortion to rock music he played in class … no one heard it. As a matter of fact, many rock bands add it on purpose to develop “a sound”. So, claim #3 is non-controversial.
@j.f.johnson7843
2 жыл бұрын
I’m still buying CD’s and get excited over a thrift store bin full of them. A good DAC makes all the difference. Still run across some that are poorly recorded but no big deal to just chunk them! Went to a thrift store yesterday and found some nice records but they were all overpriced. They had no CD’s 😩
@mrmuffer69
2 жыл бұрын
Our local Goodwill has priced used CD's upwards of $8.00, they all used to be $2.00. Savers thrift is still at 1.99 for most CD's. but their vinyl prices are 3.99
@cptnsolo77
2 жыл бұрын
Honestly I don't get the whole vinyl thing. I'm old enough where I transitioned from vinyl to CD and CD clearly had the better sound quality. Still have my collection so no need to repurchase 😂 Great vid !
@debranchelowtone
Жыл бұрын
At some point CD mastering went wrong and used too much dynamic compression. The vinyls can no handle this level of compression for technical reasons ( the diamond would jump ), so the mastering was much more enjoyable than CD. This was the only reason to buy vinyl. Everything else was purely commercial.
@josexavierjr.5633
2 жыл бұрын
Great video, Randy! Physical media is the way to go! I recently downsized my music collection to CDs, along with Minidiscs, and Cassettes. I recently sold off all my Vinyl to downsize and make our move to Mexico a lot easier..... I have had CDs since 1983, back when they were about $20 a piece. Before moving, I bought up a bunch of CDs from Amazon to replace what I had on vinyl, and prices were amazingly cheap sometimes, with some discs selling for as low as $5.00 (NEW!). There are many albums that have been remastered and re-released by many classic rock artists, and sound better than they ever did on vinyl. I have the Audiolab 6000CDT and Teac Tascam Pro CD recorder as well for backup; I also have a Pioneer universal disc player for my SACDs and DVD-Audio, that still works really well. My CD collection is hovering around 2700 discs, so I think I'm good for a while, and I do my fair share of streaming as well.
@brtv-brandoaradioetelevisa2568
Жыл бұрын
for me the best audio format will always be the cd if it is well cared for it lasts a lifetime. the vinyl disc is very easily damaged. the cassette for me is still better than the vinyl record. especially if the cassette is one of the best examples; sony super metal master and if the device is good too, the sound produced is better than vinyl. and streaming sites are worthless. I prefer to have the physical disk with the box. I can always rip in wav format [lossless] and in flac format [lossless] in sound quality. the cd is much better.
@peterschmidt9942
2 жыл бұрын
CDs definitely sound better than what any streaming service provides, mainly because what's streamed is a lower bit rate. However if you rip your CDs in either FLAC or 320kbps MP3 and stream that via a NAS, I don't think you'll notice a difference between that and the CD (provided whatever it's coming out of can reproduce it at the same rate). Personally I like to rip CDs, store them on the NAS, copy them to a HDD for the car and put it on random. Doesn't mean I can't listen to an entire album (which I will do if something comes along randomly I haven't listened to in a while). While buying some Marantz components from the 80's, I had a CD player thrown in. It was a black one compared to the silver components I was after. But playing CDs, it sounded fantastic compared to the generic CD players I had. Maybe something in the circuitry to enhance it, I'm not sure but noticeably different. Exact Audio Copy is a great program 😁
@angelOcrisu
2 жыл бұрын
I just recently decided to return to CD after two years of only streaming.( Wiim mini I bought after your review and it's good) As you say, there is a satisfaction getting the cd out of the box and put it on the tray. So today I've got out to the daylight my old dvd player and will connecting it to the zen one dac through coaxial cable. Back in the day only bought techno and r&b. Now I listen to alternative rock, vocal jazz and indie/ folk. So I have to buy some CDs for a small collection. I started with the first albums of Guns&Roses and Oasis just to try the sound. Omg it sounds better that tidal. CD has higher bitrate at 1400 kbps than often lower then 1k on tidal at hifi tier.
@LarcR
2 жыл бұрын
I never deserted CDs. Still using an old Technics SL-PS900 CD player. The MASH DAC in that sounds far better than running the signal from the player's optical out into my Denon receiver. The Denon's DAC is screechy in the treble. The Technics sounds open and well balanced. I'll know shortly if a Schiit Modi 3E DAC produces better results.
@aworminmybook8234
2 жыл бұрын
i recently discovered the MASH dac technology. i agree, it sounds great.
@206Vin
2 жыл бұрын
Same here, I've had that player for decades. It's quite the workhorse, still going strong.
@sdrtcacgnrjrc
2 жыл бұрын
I like the limitations of CDs -- as long as it's good enough, I'll play it in the car for a week or so and get to know it forwards and backwards. A really good cd will last two weeks (on replay!) Fwiw I don't stream music -- I discover "new" [mostly old] music mainly via KZitem. Digital I buy via Bandcamp if possible (I'll almost never buy mp3)
@redstang5150
2 жыл бұрын
There is something to be said about listening to an entire album. There's a feel to the album as songs transition from one into the next, and in my experience, I have come to appreciate MANY songs from albums that weren't released as singles and didn't initially appeal to me, only to have them become my favorites.
@pauln6803
2 жыл бұрын
+1 Bandcamp is bloody fantastic.
@206Vin
2 жыл бұрын
Same here, exactly!
@soothsayer2406
Жыл бұрын
What about downloading cd albums compressed as mkv or Flac formatted files free. Yes freeee??? Doesn't that beat CDs... because you can burn a large DVD full of Flac formatted cd music?? 4.2 gigs worth...vs a 680 to 800mb cd... some people have terabytes of Flac formatted music ready to burn to DVD or even blue ray disc's filled with hundreds of albums
@burliesanford1863
Жыл бұрын
CD's are cheap now , vinyl making a comeback at decent prices , everyone can get into it cheap. That you don't have to worry about the FLAC , ALAC , WAV and xyz . BLU-RAY player and your old stereo system for the vinyls and stream the rest , it sounds great nowadays...
@LeonardChurch33
2 жыл бұрын
I'm glad I got ahead of the curve on this one. I've been getting back into collecting CDs over the last couple years and I'm up to a collection of about 300. I've paid $1 each for most of them and I have a vintage Onkyo CD changer with an amazing built-in DAC that I picked up for $30.
@Harald_Reindl
Жыл бұрын
300 isn't that much given that I collected 200 from 1991 to 1999 where I stopped to use physical media when I can have my whole library on a hard drive with dozens of backups spread all over the country
@LeonardChurch33
Жыл бұрын
@@Harald_Reindl you're right, for a lot of people it's not that many, especially those that have been collecting for a long time. But considering I had maybe 20 at the start of 2021 I'd say it was pretty explosive growth.
@Harald_Reindl
Жыл бұрын
@@LeonardChurch33 well, my digital library has grown by 50000 tracks in 2022 :-)
@444chroma
2 жыл бұрын
It's the same way with movies and films! The streams are very compressed and discs offer better quality. I can't get everything but I make sure to get my favorite CDs and Movies on physical.
@CharlesMuccia
2 жыл бұрын
Spot on video! My collection of music consists of vinyl, CDs and streaming. Been collecting vinyl since I was a teenager and CDs since the early 80s. My favorite format is CDs and I have a collection of over 4000, snd I still buy CDs. After years of messing around with different components I finally have a setup I love and makes my CDs sound amazing. My system makes CDs sound warm, full and open and it's now my preferred way to listen to music. Thanks for another great video!
@jimmbear3998
Жыл бұрын
I prefer CDs and DVDs as I don’t want to pay another monthly fee for some streaming service. Also, as you mentioned the quality is better, no buffering issues or dropped internet issues that you get with streaming. Also, you own it and it so cheap, used CD’s on EBay are so cheap. With streaming you own nothing and if the streaming company can raise prices on you whenever they want. Also, you get the cool artwork and stuff that comes along with the CD. Additionally since you own your CD’s it also means you can sell your CD’s. So unlike streaming which continuously costs you money forever, those CD’s you own may eventually earn you 💰 someday when you go to sell them. The benefits of CD’s are so numerous why would you not own CD’s. 🤷♂️
@KenIn_NH
2 жыл бұрын
Great segment! And couldn't agree more. My current collection of 1300ish disc's is right there at arms length in my studio. Won't ever get rid n if them. Especially when there's no liner notes for digital media. My knowledge of music , artists , recording etc is heavily influenced by all that reading!
@cheapaudioman
2 жыл бұрын
Well said!
@rebecca_stone
2 жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed this! I love my 1,000+ CD collection, I will never let it go. 96% drop in CD sales is a staggering figure. To me, it feels like CDs are the rollerblades of the rollerskating revival of recent years. (With quad rollerskates being the "vinyl" in this analogy). You are being a bit of an outlier if you're seen skating on inline skates these days, and there's a hip retro nostalgia to the quad skates.
@jimgardner5129
Жыл бұрын
I stumbled upon a new skate shop in my small city and was stoked. They sell primarily old-school style skates for women. I didn't realize it had become such a "thing" again. I was impressed. Reminded me that I have a set of Powell-Peralta Rollerbones from the late 80s / early 90s. And they're still in fantastic shape.
@brianconneranweig1772
2 жыл бұрын
I have always had some CD's, but have recently gone all in. Started with buying a few SACD's to see what, if any difference there was. I thought they were great. So I bought myself a new Yamaha SACD/CD player for my setup. Wow! I wish there were more rock SACD'S out there. But I do find that the transport and DAC in the Yamaha are really good. CD'S sound better than through my old Sony 5 disc Blu-Ray player!
@thomashobbes8786
2 жыл бұрын
SACDs are awesome. Wish there were more….
@zafnatpaneaj4992
Жыл бұрын
Im totally agree with you handsome. I just love my CDS, more than ever...! Warm hugs from Buenos Aires...!
@jmad627
2 жыл бұрын
I bought two, used Pioneer DV 563a to play my CDs. One is connected to a vintage Pioneer SX-780, and the other to a Reissong A-10. Both of them sound great. I have lots of CDs to play. As I’m relatively new to audiophile stuff I always had plenty of records and CDs.
@manuelhernandez6801
2 жыл бұрын
Yup, If you are into CD's you're definitely in it for the music. Vinyl collectors remind me of the old Comic book boom they buy it as a collectable and as an investment. Streamers see music as disposable. CD collectors buy the better audio quality and understand these are not going to be your retirement.
@DavidEVogel
Жыл бұрын
If you are into CD's you're definitely in it for the music. And why is a digital lossless copy not the same?
@carlosduque4692
Жыл бұрын
Of course
@TheManunderwater
2 жыл бұрын
Really accurate and wise post. With 1500 CDs virtually all in pristine condition I'm definitely not ditching the format and all 10 of your reasons show why. For me the advantage is (still) the range of current or back catalogue - especially. Anything at all left-field for classical music is not streamed. Vinyl was smaller market place and 3x price and $600 minimum kit and the medium is delicate. In UK there's a company making a CD ripping and storage bit of kit. £600 but that buys you kit that outputs Flac files as well as MP3. Outputs optical, HDMI and analog. Stores up to 4400 albums on its 2Tb disc. Lots of clever stuff re indexing and a box which is just 8" square Its the Brennan B2 - and no I don't work for them.
@dilvishpa5776
Жыл бұрын
With that much invested in CDs, I assume you have backup cd players. Nice collection!
@barrieainge4937
Жыл бұрын
Just found your channel and,yes, I would agree that the physical medium of cd is always going to be a lot more satisfying than the idea of this "thing" called a music file that you click on and it plays on your phone/tablet etc. Where's the fun in that? I suppose it partly an age issue and being a 74 year old hifi nut I ain't gonna change! Here in the UK you can buy cds for 50 pence sterling or even less at car boot sales which are a bit like your garage sales only they take place in a large field. Very interesting channel, have subscribed and will visit again!
@rmartin7558
Жыл бұрын
I must be dirt ass poor, because I wouldn't call $500 cheap for a CD player. But I'm just Joe working man.
@myfriendgoo2816
Жыл бұрын
I have a nearby thrift store that charges only 25 cents for used CDs. Needless to say, any good ones they get go fast. Another one is at 99 cents (80 cents on senior day for those who qualify) and gets a better caliber of discs and they stay around a bit longer. To me the great thing about the cheap prices is being able to expand musical horizons into jazz, world music, reggae and anything else that might seem interesting.
@brorjordas1979
Жыл бұрын
I love CD's as much as vinyl. Been a collector of my favorite bands' hard copies ever since mid '90s. I do love to own material in my shelves. Not bought that much music lately - but whenever a new must-have comes by, I surely buy it as a hard copy. New albums do come quite cheap - it's the old hard-to-find collectables that cost. Even live bootlegs can cost quite a bit - whenever find what you still do nlt own.
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