Problem with this is Dorians early stuff the footage is so old, it can’t possibly show the quality of muscle the man had. There are some German Grand Prix vids circulating that show his ridiculous freakiness with better lighting and cameras. Ronnie, Dorian, Phil, Jay
@NoRest4TheWicked1
Ай бұрын
The placing is still correct. Footage doesn’t change shape an insertions
@robk5745
Ай бұрын
@@NoRest4TheWicked1 well it misses a lot of detail which Dorian had the most of
@NikosNikos-dr7wv
Ай бұрын
@@NoRest4TheWicked1 Dorian was bigger with better condition than 99 Ronnie
@NoRest4TheWicked1
Ай бұрын
@@NikosNikos-dr7wv Dorian has never been bigger than Ronnie. Dorian may debatably be harder than Ronnie, only in the back would I entertain that. Ronnie has always been more conditioned. Look at the glutes. If Ronnie is the same size, bigger back, bigger arms, bigger legs, bigger chest. Where exactly is this “bigger than Ronnie” argument coming from? This is why I don’t discuss body building because of the delusions people have
@TheRealMcCoy88
Ай бұрын
Jays definitely getting last place
@smitabhmoitra5726
Ай бұрын
The mount rushmore of bodybuilding.
@DunkinBiscuits
Ай бұрын
Awesome comment
@gsalazar8176
Ай бұрын
Honesty, prime Phil beats Ronnie by 15% only due to Ronnie's size. Phil is the most aesthetic monster I've ever seen.. 2. Ronnie, 3. Dorian, 4 Jay.
@DunkinBiscuits
Ай бұрын
@@gsalazar8176 what you mean is if Phil was bigger then it would be phil 1, Ronnie 2…. But he’s not so he doesn’t win. Ronnie is king and everyone knows this. And it’s not just about Ronnies size, Phil beat a bigger big rami in 17 and his size did nothing to Phil but Ronnie is different and if Ronnie was there it would have been very different story. Phil is great but Ronnie is greatest!
@halo3tes4
Ай бұрын
without HANEY 8 times ?
@prettyboychilds
Ай бұрын
i agree with you and kevin especially because kevin's been on stage with all of them especially ronnie and yates coming 2nd place 4 times and in top 4 pretty much for 10years straight!! but i do agree ronnie,,phil,,dorian,,cutler! BUT its so close between all of them because they all have body parts or poses were they can win against each other like this video shows and explains so there's no really right or wrong order you could literally mix it up! great video brother 😎
@NikosNikos-dr7wv
Ай бұрын
Dorian was bigger with better condition than 99 Ronnie. Kevin hated Dorian
@jerrellrice3413
Ай бұрын
I was so upset that you gave Jay the abs and thighs I started walking in circles! Lol Jay has the worst abs of any champion in history. And his quads were good but not the best of all time. There is absolutely no chance that I give him that pose over Dorian, who was simply picturesque.
@MR12AMAZING
Ай бұрын
I more or less agreed with everything up until that pose. That pose exposes how wide his waist is, he just looks terrible. Even Ronnie beats him in that pose for me. How he had Jay beating Dorian is ludicrous.
@KhemBMD
Ай бұрын
Side chest is difficult really bc Yates hit a side chest were the rest are hitting that modern side most muscular
@paulorocha1772
Ай бұрын
And still they all look more impressive than Yates
@JoeJoe-zf5sq
Ай бұрын
Yeah it's not close Dorian is 4th in posses give him front lat and side tricep
@NikosNikos-dr7wv
Ай бұрын
@@JoeJoe-zf5sq Dorian was bigger with better condition than 99 Ronnie
@oloraculocondetergenteysor3894
Ай бұрын
Like=Ronnie wins
@Adoidk
Ай бұрын
PLEASEEEEEE Andreas muntzer vs Rubiel Musquera (dubai pro 2024)
@beewalk34
Ай бұрын
I have to disagree with you. I have Phil winning front double bicep, side chest, and abs&thighs
@cory2023
Ай бұрын
Phils muscles are 3d and cartonish. He was born for this sport.
@kevinhenry1316
Ай бұрын
Def a great comparison… I see Ronnie -Dorian- Jay - Phil… Phil has a great look but if it was actually in person he would be noticeably smaller in general. Jay looked good but a huge waist which would be exposed . Dorian in 2nd cause ppl now don’t know what he was really like and the lack of actual HD pics so ppl simply can’t tell how much he dominated then. Ronnie in 1st cause he is simply the goat period . All 4 were phenomenal so it’s really splitting hairs
@Gnybr
Ай бұрын
Phil is 3rd in BDB for sure
@moanouti2971
Ай бұрын
The combination of polished size, extreme conditioning, and flawless presentation that Dorian put forth in 93 is the best package of all time
@starforcefighter
Ай бұрын
👍💪
@Srbenda126
Ай бұрын
@@moanouti2971 True, but he downsized too much to compete with modern bodybuilders
@valerioscharer4676
Ай бұрын
Also his shape is not the best and is not complete enough. He was awesome for his time but he can't compete with Ronnie and Phil@@Srbenda126
@Srbenda126
Ай бұрын
@@valerioscharer4676 I disagree with Phil. WHile he may have fuller and rounder muscle bellies, his structure is too inferior to Dorian. Only 98 and 99 Ronnie beats prime DOrian in my opinion
@valerioscharer4676
Ай бұрын
@@Srbenda126 Dorian has a bigger structure yes but overall shape is not it. Sure wide shoulders are awesome but dorian has big but odd shaped quads. Delts are not the best from most angles, chest is flat, arms are flat and small with average insertions etc. His waist was medium, not small but not tiny eighter and yes wide shoulders are awesome but it's a lot more than being conditionned and wide and big. Phil looks much more muscular weight or not. Tiny joints, near perfect muscle bellies with a tiny waist. Sure the shoulders are narrow but in 2011 at least his body flows amazingly. The camera is in his favor yes but still.
@Realistic-g7z
Ай бұрын
Dorian is looking like Amature in front of other 3 to be honest. Dorian is last and I believe any modern top level bodybuilder would make Dorian look like amature.
@illusionistMunawarMuzaffar
Ай бұрын
you are right Dorian 4rth here, Even Dorian could not win FLS against Ronnie, Dorian looks so weak overall egarding his weak chest, arms, forearms and legs, also Dorians weak arms create illusion of extra big lats while Ronnie's enormouse arms hide a portion of his lats, Dorian had biggest calves but no use in this pose, Dorian fourth here but bodybuilding youtube channels need over rated Dorian to create debate in comments section for more views/money
@NikosNikos-dr7wv
Ай бұрын
@@illusionistMunawarMuzaffar Dorian was bigger with better condition than Ronnie 99
@NikosNikos-dr7wv
Ай бұрын
Maybe bodybuilding it's not your sport? Dorian was bigger with better condition than 99 Ronnie. The video of Dorian was bad
@Gnybr
Ай бұрын
No way Phil is beating Dorian in the FDB when not even Flex in 93 could beat him in that pose
@streetspirit956
Ай бұрын
of course he is, Dorian's arms are the 2nd worst of any Mr Olympia. Only the current Mr Olympia has worse arms.
@Gnybr
Ай бұрын
@@streetspirit956 It's not only about arms. Dorian has a way wider and better V-taper than Phil has.
@beewalk34
Ай бұрын
It's called "front double biceps" for a reason. Dorian and Derek Lundsford have the worst FDB than other modern Olympian. Just look at his bicep tears @@Gnybr
@Gnybr
Ай бұрын
@@beewalk34 Every single muscle group that is seen is judged in every pose regardless of the name of the pose. Just because Phil has better arms doesn't make up for his poor v-taper and pregnancy in the FDB. Shawn Rhoden for example beat him in the FDB every time they competed, although his arms were much inferior.
@AakarVerma
Ай бұрын
A lot of times u give the same pose to different people, as if u are yourself confused. Also I don't think ever Jay looked as good as he gets credit for. Anyways, I like your videos :)
@hugostln5151
Ай бұрын
How tf do you out phil behind dorian in the back lat spread, am I not seeing the same footage ??
@moanouti2971
Ай бұрын
Putting Dorian 3rd in the rear double biceps is unbecoming of you Supersetman.
@KhanhLe-zy1iy
Ай бұрын
His back was the best but he lacks in everywhere else
@paulorocha1772
Ай бұрын
its the right placement lol
@konev13thebeast
Ай бұрын
The rear double biceps includes the arms and legs. Not just the back
@rsiksUser
Ай бұрын
Why Phil look as big as the others?
@woahblackbettybamalam
Ай бұрын
Imo Phils midesction even looked bad in 2011
@hardcoregamningchannel
Ай бұрын
Dorian castiga impotriva lui Jay si Phil urmatoarele pozitii obligatorii: amfora fata,amfora spate,extensia tricepsului,dublu biceps spate si quarter turnurile fata si spate.Plus de asta Yates era mai mare ca Phil si mai dens si definit ca orice varianta a lui Jay care niciodata nu a avut glutei striati.Dupa parerea mea lucrurile stau asa:Ronnie 2003,Yates 1993,Jay 2001,Phil 2011-2013,Dexter 2009.
@iwasthere228
Ай бұрын
Ronnie's paper thin skin was unreal 🥶!
@CDK9966
Ай бұрын
4 of the very best of all-time, and their records prove that. I will always have a soft spot for Yates, especially that 93 version that changed the sport for years to come. Plus, his training, Blood and Guts, is still the best of the best. But this is a very close comparison, very tough call, but I think Kevin got it right. Although, Phil vs Yates would be interesting as Phil was around 240lbs in his peak and Yates in 93 was 257lbs, so the size difference and his grainey look may change the whole thing. Very good video.
@lborg960
Ай бұрын
The best to me has to be Ronnie. His size and conditioning was in a class of its own. Lee Haney should be in the top four, ahead of Dorian. Lee's chest, waist and back was by far, better than Dorian, in the 91 Mr Olympia. Lee could have had competed in the 92 Mr Olympia and still beat Dorian for his 9th straight Olympia win.
@CP1234.
Ай бұрын
Ronnie more aesthetics than Phil in Front Double Bi's, and put him fourth 😂..... like ronnie said : you must be smoking crack loll
@Shawn-1971
Ай бұрын
I would agree with most but I think Dorian FDB beats Jay, better taper. I also think Dorian would win BDB in that he has the most detail and great size. The pictures look blurry for Dorian
@RustyTreeMan
Ай бұрын
good compo a few comments, in RDB you pace Dorian 3rd stating his glute ham development hold him down but the footage clearly shows he has the best glutes and especially ham cuts! He has the best overall legs but he posed not flaring his thighs like the other guys, I think he wins it easily. I can't see how Dorian also doesn't win the side triceps either, he's just massive, hits it well enough and that calf and overall hardness is on another level to even these guys, even with the grainy footage! I also think he easily wins the abs and thighs, Jays good but not enough v taper and just a blocky pose. Dorians the most aesthetic, shows off his huge teardrops and has enough condition to display the long sartorius muscle and his huge lats give him the best v taper too. Dorian was actually the heaviest out of all of them but he's sized to look the smallest. Anyway good job
@MP-ux7nv
Ай бұрын
I agree with every single ranking for each pose, although I would personally give the most muscular to Phil (very debatable)
@moanouti2971
Ай бұрын
The combination of polished size, extreme conditioning, and flawless presentation that Dorian put forth in 93 is the best package of all time
@bjf5027
Ай бұрын
Lol, except Ronnie 1999 crushes him. You heard it from Kevin himself. There is no more debate
@moanouti2971
Ай бұрын
@@bjf5027 Not sure what’s funny here but anyway, Ronnie was never able to beat Dorian in the numerous times he competed against him and was only able to win the O after Dorian’s retirement. As for Kevin, with all the respect that is due to his achievements, his opinion is just like his asshole, one of billions
@Guitar.fr3aK
Ай бұрын
This guy Ronnie Coleman the king 👑 of bodybuilding came to no where mannn he smokes anyone and anywhere fucking king 👑 Colman
@michaelmayers3622
Ай бұрын
Traing traps is important jay and phil back lat spread wpuld even look more crazy with more upper trap
@uusrikas
Ай бұрын
Camera angle to different
@baw285
Ай бұрын
dorian : hardest best back and conditioning ronnie : the biggest and ugliest phil heath : more aesthetic pleasing to watch jay : 4 th place . thank you
@afonso1816
Ай бұрын
Could you re-do this video with Kevin Levrone and Kai Greene in it too?
@TheZgriffin
Ай бұрын
Screw it throw in Nasser and Flex best versions with it let's have a silver sandow showdown!
@kayla0002134266654
Ай бұрын
By modern bodybuilding standards, no one is beating 1999 Coleman. Dorian 5 weeks out in 1993 is unbeatable, but it’s not on the contest stage.
@THeDigiTalMoRPh7600
Ай бұрын
Yates was the most overrated Bodybuilder ever he never deserved his last. 2 Olympias
@Razegenes
Ай бұрын
FDB: 1.Roonie 2. Phil 3. Jay 4. Dorian FLS: 1.Dorian 2. Roonie 3. Jay 4. Phil SC: 1.Roonie 2. Phil 3. Jay 4. Dorian BDB: 1.Roonie 2. Phil 3. Dorian 4. Jay BLS: 1.Roonie 2. Phil 3. Dorian 4. Jay ST: 1.Phil 2. Dorian 3. Jay 4. Roonie AT: 1.Jay 2. Roonie 3. Dorian 4. Phil MM: 1.Phil 2. Roonie 3. Jay 4. Dorian 1) Ronnie 14pt 2) Phil 18pt 3) Dorian 24pt 4) Jay 24pt
@Khamae77
Ай бұрын
Give Dorian Phil's arms and he's untouchable.
@behave7583
Ай бұрын
Phil is my all time favorit just perfect in any single Way
@zeesher
Ай бұрын
Use Ronnie 2003 in this
@billyboy2455
Ай бұрын
King ronnie at the top
@michaelmayers3622
Ай бұрын
Ronnie arms used to look full not just peaky
@michaelmayers3622
Ай бұрын
Why not 2003 ron and 2013 phil ???
@machine380
Ай бұрын
1-Dorian 2-Ronnie 3-Phil 4-Jay
@bjf5027
Ай бұрын
Lol tell me you know nothing about bodybuilding
@machine380
Ай бұрын
@@bjf5027 I’ll tell you i know more than you do. Not a fan here like you chat warrior
@nicola7809
Ай бұрын
Exact 👍🏻
@bjf5027
Ай бұрын
@@machine380 well apparently you know less than Kevin Levrone
@machine380
Ай бұрын
@@bjf5027 of course, i know better not to try to comeback from retirement after 50 and try to compete with competitors better than Dorian Yates.
@CP1234.
Ай бұрын
Jay has the best abs ...... WTF 😂😂😂
@Srbenda126
Ай бұрын
Where is my boy Lucien Popa to defend Dorian?
@Srbenda126
Ай бұрын
@lucien
@Jsizzle6809
Ай бұрын
Hoping he pops up soon!
@jordanhickey9785
Ай бұрын
Jay hast always been goofy to me
@LeWacoKid
Ай бұрын
Think heath smokes them tbh.
@theshortswordman2068
Ай бұрын
comment for algorithm
@gsalazar8176
Ай бұрын
Jay barely beats dorian
@michaelmayers3622
Ай бұрын
These not even their prime
@NikosNikos-dr7wv
Ай бұрын
Dorian first for sure
@benjyperez5606
Ай бұрын
Ronnie and Jay all day
@lifestyle6363
Ай бұрын
1) Ronnie 2) Phil 3) Dorian 4) Jay
@lamontbillingslb
Ай бұрын
No Lee Haney?
@josephohrablo4866
Ай бұрын
The fact Dorian from 93 was winning poses and coming close in a few others is a testament to how damn good Dorian in 93 was . I have it 1-Ronnie 2-Heath 3-Yates 4-cutler
@Sthiwatari
Ай бұрын
Next video on top 10 widest bodybuilder's of all time
kevin levrone vs flex wheeler vs phil heath would be great considering their similarities
@halo3tes4
Ай бұрын
WHERES HANEY ?
@god985
Ай бұрын
Dorian is so overrated
@clementedb3712
Ай бұрын
Jay, yates, phil, ronnie
@MR12AMAZING
Ай бұрын
Surely this must be in reverse order lol.
@E4RTH_
Ай бұрын
Dorian definitely wins the abs and thighs, hes near perfect. Waist while not incredibly thin isnt wide. very seperated as are the quads with the raised knee to boot. And his booming lats are the icing on the cake. I dont get the hate for phils abs. It doesnt have the split like ronnie, isnt assymetrical like jay’s and also isnt bubblegutting in the pose. I never liked jays abs he looks like a melting candle cuz of his ab assymetry
@Jsizzle6809
Ай бұрын
Dorian definitely has the best style in the a & t. So so stylish
@TheZgriffin
Ай бұрын
Ronnie 17pts Phil 19pts Jay 21pts Dorian 23pts 1st place for each pose gets 1 point, 2nd place gets 2 points, and so on. That is how my placings came out watching this footage.
@Gnybr
Ай бұрын
Then you have absolutely no clue how to judge bodybuilding
@TheZgriffin
Ай бұрын
@@Gnybr it's the same placings as a few of the Olympians in the beginning lol
@moanouti2971
Ай бұрын
Putting Dorian 3rd in the rear double biceps is unbecoming of you Supersetman. The pose is judged on back not on glutes
@prettyboychilds
Ай бұрын
its called a rear double BICEPS and what did dorian lack in? biceps! its actually judged on the whole package you have to take everything into account! dorian has a great back but his biceps shoulders and glutes and legs lacked compared to someone like ronnie and phill in that shot. its like front double bi you dont just look at just the biceps you look from top to bottom! which is a good thing because dorian wouldnt of won as many as he did if it was just judged from one body part, he was beating people in the front poses not because of his biceps because he had shit arms compared to others like flex,shawn ray, nasser etc but he was beating them everywhere else! you judge as a whole you dont stare at one body part and ignore the rest
@moanouti2971
Ай бұрын
@@prettyboychilds You are right of course but in the rear double biceps shot, you can’t give Ronnie and Phil the nod on account of their shredded glutes when they are losing to Dorian in the back muscles development. Yes the whole package should be taken into account but the back development is the nucleus of the rear double biceps pose and hence should be judged accordingly.
@Srbenda126
Ай бұрын
@@prettyboychildsit's called back double because when you flex your arms like that, you show your back muscles genius. Back muscles move the arm
@Realistic-g7z
Ай бұрын
1.RONNIE. 2.Phil 3.Jay 4.Dorian.
@mgk4921
Ай бұрын
Phil heath 3D
@Gnybr
Ай бұрын
This dude is a Phil fanboy. Phil would look way smaller next to these three juggernauts on stage.
@MR12AMAZING
Ай бұрын
I mean we seen both Phil and Jay on the same stage and Phil held up well. The only thing that was much bigger about Jay was his waist lol.
@Gnybr
Ай бұрын
@@MR12AMAZING Jay looked significantly wider and bigger than Phil. Also, Ronnie and Dorian are both taller as well which would help.
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