I could fix my own battery setup in case I need to, replace whatever parts . I cant fix a power station in case whatever inside that box gets fried .. I rather build my own thing.
@NoonMight
2 жыл бұрын
I’m starting to see that this is true 👌🏻
@velocity800
Жыл бұрын
makes sense
@jonafe9321
Жыл бұрын
I like this comment 👍
@alexblaze8878
Жыл бұрын
@TheMoral Code you’ll need a deep cycle battery. Car batteries are designed to deliver max amps on startup and then relying on the alternator to replenish the battery as you drive. Hence the reason you can kill a battery quickly by repeatedly trying to start a car that won’t start. A deep cycle battery only delivers about half the cold cranking amps (CCA) of a regular car battery but has 2-3 times the reserve power to deliver lower but consistent output over a longer period of time. A car battery just exists to start the car, in fact you can disconnect the battery after starting the car and the alternator will continue to produce AC power to the vehicle as you’re driving.
@elsol1176
Жыл бұрын
You won't make it as small and it won't be as portable and you'll spend ages making it. Time is money. Not worth the hassle
@ridgerunner7980
Жыл бұрын
Jackery does not sell replacement batteries for its power stations....deal breaker...you can pick up a 12v sealed agm battery at any auto parts store
@Spessforce
Жыл бұрын
For the majority of people with vehicles, the challenges of integrating a DIY dual battery setup makes a portable power station far more appealing, even with its downsides.
@Westcoastrocksduh
Жыл бұрын
I love tinkering on my overlander more then going out but I would still buy a power station for so many reasons
@stanb990
7 ай бұрын
Hooking up a second battery is stump dumb easy.
@robsouthoz
2 жыл бұрын
Great to see someone cover this so well. Something that isn't taken into account often is the effort and cost of all the parts required for an installed setup - really if you take into account everything (decent gauge wires, inverter, dc-dc charger, battery box(es), terminals, fuses etc etc) I think you'll find installed cost is a lot higher than you think - even before labour. Given the space and weight it takes, you really need a huge power draw to justify it over the larger portable options in my view.
@OzarkOverlandAdventures
2 жыл бұрын
My numbers were full installed costs based on what I spent to install mine.
@ErvigHenry
10 ай бұрын
Thank you for sharing your insights! You bring up valid points about the additional parts and costs involved in an installed setup. And you're right, sometimes a portable power option like the Segway Portable PowerStation Cube Series can be a great alternative. It's compact, powerful, and has a fast recharge time. Plus, it offers multiple output ports and comprehensive protection features. Definitely worth considering for efficient and hassle-free power on your outdoor adventures!
@stinkykd1
2 жыл бұрын
Very informative! Love to see the pros/cons. Im pretty bought into Goal Zero. They are the OG but have been resting on laurels. Pulling trigger on 1500x and two 300 watt Ranger panels. I like the idea of adding a "link" to expand to more batteries for the house while tied into my grid with the integration kit. Your set up looks great!
@pamthompson7059
2 жыл бұрын
I love my Ecoflow Delta, it can recharge with 110 w from 0 to 80% in 1 hour, full charge in 2 hours. Usually can keep charged off my 400 w solar panel on my roof, 4-6 hours while driving charges it is totally. Has kept me covered for 5 months camping cross country. Haven't tried the 12v charge off the car.
@koltrasten
2 жыл бұрын
I had to return my EcoFlow River Max twice, once it just died on me while charging, no reason and EcoFlow couldn't say why it died and the second time it died due to overheating. I was charging in my livingroom 23 degrees celsius and I was using the slow charge setting. Hopefully I just got 2 sketchy units and had bad luck, nevertheless I cant really trust the brand anymore, which is sad because I really loved the app and the display.
@zmann324
2 жыл бұрын
I'm looking at the delta max and delta generator for my upcoming smittybilt scout build
@dc4ou
2 жыл бұрын
I have the EcoFlow River Pro with extra battery. I love it. 80% charge in 1 hour. It will even run my Kuereg. Best portable battery.
@theMekanik
2 жыл бұрын
I like EcoFlow too but I wish they would change the battery kemistry to LFP….. I like the Delta Max 2000 watt. It’s the sweet spot for portability.
@CraigG21
2 жыл бұрын
I just bought the EcoFlow Delta Max and Wave A/C combo. Looking to get a DC to AC inverter so I can plug in the Delta Max to charge at a much higher rate (800W) while driving.
@mariodasilva8729
9 ай бұрын
Thanks so much for this comparison, which fit my thoughts exactly! I'm not a camper but I have had many power outages before the power company laid thicker cables in my housing estate. To avoid requiring certification by the electrical company, my solution was to have two car 12v 65A batteries in parallel with a battery isolator as offline, same as dual batteries in cars. They are constantly being charged by 2 100A solar panels in parallel at the window glass. As I'm on the top floor of my block it gets all the morning sun. This 12v 1000W inverter gave me 2xAC and 2xUSB for just under 3 hours for my fridge or six hours of fan at low speed. This is all off grid and AC cable runs are used when needed. Now because this all worked nicely and cheaply, I'm thinking of 2 more batterIes to a quad system in the same setup with an isolator and batteryclamps on wheels and I would have two similar sets that could be joined up in parallel as needs arise, OR moved into another part of the house to power something else with another inverter! I like your Bluetooth link to the batteries! Desktop Computers? I have two 24v UPS 1500w for those blackouts, or laptops if longer use is required. Thanks for thinking out of the box. I decided to not go for all in ones.
@deepsouthNZ
2 жыл бұрын
At 16:44 Did he fart?
@Zayfromtheway
2 жыл бұрын
Yup
@deepsouthNZ
2 жыл бұрын
@@Zayfromtheway fantastic haha
@carolsdarksarcasm4223
2 жыл бұрын
😂
@8AlisaInez
2 жыл бұрын
💚Thank you for your review! The dual battery is ideal for me but as you stated, the wrangler is limited to its available space. Part of the reason why I chose the Duracell portable power station at first. Because it Allows a similar setup with the ability to add batteries to the rear of the power station. Still one of my favorites but the OneUp/Eco has the ability to fully charge within an hour or two by Solar. Pleasantly surprised by both Power Stations.
@tomfrengillo
2 жыл бұрын
My two cents: I went with a portable system for our teardrop camper, and opted out of the battery approach. My reasoning was: Simple. Flexible. Portable. It’s a self contained system, and doesn’t need an inverter, Solar controller, etc. If there are issues, it’s not behind a wall or a hood. Also, if my rig changes, I can bring my solution along for whatever we get next. It’s also portable. We have used our Jackery and Bluetti in our rooftop tent, our ground tent, and now our teardrop. We’ve brought them with us when renting a Class B Van. AND if we use them in our house to backup our fridge, or when working remote bring it along. Some considerations after a year: make sure you can charge while driving. Either through cigarette lighter or your rigs inverter if you have one. Our Tacoma has an inverter. However our best decision was to prewire our teardrop so we could charge the power station through the 7pin connection while driving. Allows us to leave the station in the teardrop. Another thing is considering buying one or two smaller units if charge time is a concern; simply the 300W units can charge in 2-3 hours and a solar panel is all you need. We do this with our fridge. We don’t bring home appliances with us so the inverter needs have less importance. We use a Jackery 1000 and Bluetti A50S. Been looking for a 300W station to round it out, but that’s probably overkill to be honest. Our solutions works well for 2-5 day trips (most of the time). If during sunny spring - fall weather, have had no issues keeping units topped up with solar panels, even when using with our diesel heater and fridge. I feel like this system is cost effective and maybe even cheaper when looking at the complexity of install, additional hardware and battery costs and all the flexibility with multi-use.
@tomfrengillo
2 жыл бұрын
I will add a bias that I don’t like wiring anything. And I don’t have a heavy load of vehicle auxiliary electric requirements, where a dual battery system may make a ton of sense.
@GetOutSmore
2 жыл бұрын
@@tomfrengillo I just got a teardrop and it came with an AGM battery and a basic 1500 watt inverter. I have a 600 Watt portable battery station. I’m trying to figure a way to cool the teardrop without shore power. What do you do when you need to cool it down with your setup?
@tomfrengillo
2 жыл бұрын
@@GetOutSmore we have a Maxx Fan that runs off 12V, so the portable station is fine with it. “Cooling down” for us consists of using an awning for shade, trying to stay by a river and taking advantage of normally cool nights at higher altitudes in Colorado. I’ve seen some bring a pop up canopy that they park under if they can’t find shade. I’ve also seen a few videos of portable 12V AC units as well. Plenty of KZitem videos with ideas on the topic.
@Ooleteq
Жыл бұрын
Agreed. I'm in the middle of setting up a Vtoman 1000 jump into our camper. My 2 main reasons were... 1) I don't want to leave that much money in equipment and that much of a summer heat related fire risk in the camper 24/7 since it's permanently mounted on the truck. Lithium batteries can and do swell in heat and the fire isn't easy to extinguish 2) I like the idea of it living in the house 90%+ of it's life since the power at home does goes out sometimes and spoiled food sounds expensive, especially these's days I should also add that the model I bought can be used to jump the truck in a pinch
@theMekanik
2 жыл бұрын
I have no idea why you would even waste your money on a 1,000 watt inverter you kant even power an Insta Pot or an Elektrik Kettle….. 3000 watts is the minimum Я would go with, you aren’t running a inverter 100% persent of the time & if you are you are konnekted to $ore (shore) power. Antigravity Batteries are made by the Exakt Same ppl in China & have the Exakt same funktions as the Amazon Lithium Batteries. 💁🏻♂️ I only like RedArc bekause they have good looking marketing & packaging……. but you kan make it less expensive…… You kant make an inverter and batteries 🔋 packable so you $ould (should) have gone with a 48 volt 100ah rack mountable for $1,500 & G4 Solar Inverter Charge Kontroller……. That’s 5 Kilowatts of Power…… & you kan push 500 Volts from Solar, all that power for $2K…… You would never need to run your engine ⛽️ except for your diesel heater…… Unless you are trying to go 100% off Terrestrial Fuels…… which we should be thinking of OFF World Transport & Living….. & we all know we kant burn Gas In Spase or on Mars or on the Moon 🌙…… there is no Atmosphere for Aspirating Systems.
@OzarkOverlandAdventures
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah the 1000w inverter is too small. I think a 1500w would have been perfect for my needs. I haven’t found a battery on Amazon with the Bluetooth management yet like the Anti Gravity.
@Bolthole_Studios
9 ай бұрын
Good video, thanks for covering this. I now disagree that a power station can’t run a whole rig set up. My Bluetti powers both my AC and DC distribution panels and I still have the option to easily unplug and take it to my other rig or for emergency power for my house. A lot has changed and come down in cost from a year ago when you shot this. Still great info, but an update video would be very useful for people just starting out. Drive fast and take chances!
@murda2999
2 жыл бұрын
A pretty fair and balanced review of these different systems. Well done!
@jacquelineho8623
2 жыл бұрын
This video was extremely helpful 🙌 Thank you! I have a battery/inverter/solar panel setup in my van. It took 2 months to get the parts and figure out the setup but it was so cost effective for the amount of power. Tomorrow is Prime Day in Canada and I was considering a portable station but given that it doesn't give more amp hours than a dual battery setup, Im going to pass. Thanks for saving me money. 🤑
@Zkpe02
2 жыл бұрын
I had thought the same as you but went ahead with the portable power supply and 200watt portable solar panel, just because I can use my system anywhere I need it without my truck and it’s working just fine for me and my needs. It’s good that we have choice👍
@australoffroad
2 жыл бұрын
Great video!! I was looking for something like this. Very precise and with a lot of common sense mixed with real experience. I am turning my Wrangler into an overland vehicle, and thanks to your video, I feel I could make the right decisions now. I am very handy for making/installing things, so that is no problem for me, but the common sense and experience you shared is AWESOME!!!! Thanks man!
@ayechapin1
2 жыл бұрын
Everybody's needs are different and everyone's set ups are unique... thanks for the info
@Utah_Mike
2 жыл бұрын
I run dual 6 volt lead batteries & a 1000 watt power station. Solar for both and they seem to be fully charged most of the time. About $600 invested + solar panel cost. Frig, personal electronics, microwave & fans.
@wt9653
2 жыл бұрын
I only watched 1/2 way through your video. I have a jackery 1500. I called Jackery to send me one more charging brick for free. You have 2 charging ports. I can charge jackery 1500 in under 4 hours. Same with solar charging. They'll send you another adapter for 8mm port. You can charge in 4 hours with 4 100w panels. Permanent dual battery setup only charges if you are driving for 4 hours. If you are camping. You need to run gas generator or solar panels and not run your truck gas engine.
@sweet65mustang
2 жыл бұрын
I'm so mesmerized by the hair that I lose track of the conversation. I did notice that the first accessory he mentioned was a hair dryer. Lol
@user-zl5gi8sv7u
6 ай бұрын
Dual battery pros are not legit. Charging is not any faster. price is around the same. you can't get more low maintenance than a power station, just turn it on. All the things you said about monitoring the station and worry about charging it is the same for literally all battery setups. wiring your acc to it is really the only legit pro and that is only if your setup is in your rig and not in a trailer. A couple lights wired to your battery is not a big issue regardless and pretty unlikely anyone will wire a winch all the way to the back of their vehicle.
@OzarkOverlandAdventures
6 ай бұрын
Almost everything you said is wrong. 😂
@member369240sx
2 жыл бұрын
Great info...Helped me make a pre decision....Could you do a series on calculating Fridge power use compared with these 2.
@IdontspeakBro.
Жыл бұрын
I have 400ah of lithium. 3000w inverter and 500 watt of solar. The idea of building that into a portable concept like this makes me moist.
@twcamping
2 жыл бұрын
we use a Bluetti AC50S for our fridge going for 1 deg it stays 50 hrs without charge only 27-30W.. 35lts with LG compressor. We have a 100W portable Solar and works good. We do not use any charging or cooking just for gadgets. It all boils down to your power needs....we just keep it simple.
@baneverything5580
2 жыл бұрын
Portable folding solar panels are great for USB fans, little power bricks and NiMH and 18650 battery chargers. Miracle devices for areas with tropical weather like hurricanes/typhoons. I love them!
@kirkwagner461
2 жыл бұрын
Good coverage. I think a lot of people approach a topic like this with assumptions they think are true for all people. But one solution doesn't fit all. The rig you have there in your Gladiator is fantastic. However, it's overkill for many people, and the complexity of assembling all of its components isn't something that a lot of people want to deal with. For them, the simplicity of an all-in-one solution like a Jackery (or its MANY competitors) can be a godsend. One thing you didn't mention was battery chemistry. If people are looking for portable power banks, I highly recommend they seek out ones that use LiFePO4 batteries. Those might be a little bit more expensive, and be a little heavier and bigger, but the lifespan of those compared with older lithium ion batteries is incredible.
@able880
Жыл бұрын
The LFP is good for up to 10 yrs of daily cycles then drops to 80% -. were as the Ion is good for up to 10 months of 100% discharges daily then drops to 50% capacity -
@davidpatrick1813
2 жыл бұрын
I personally like and feel safer with Lithium Iron LiFiPO4 over Lithium Ion .. which has cobalt and dangerous.
@OzarkOverlandAdventures
2 жыл бұрын
agreed. lasts a lot longer too.
@christopherlaboy9377
2 жыл бұрын
@@OzarkOverlandAdventures I run the dual battery setup for my CJ, and I have a Jackery 1000 as well and a Gas Backup for those long winter nights / operating temp limits. My next add on is exactly what you have here; I'm going to go with SOK's 206ah LifePO4's and the Redarch Redvision.
@baneverything5580
2 жыл бұрын
Has anyone ever had a lithium ion power station or the phone charger type power banks catch fire or explode?
@lesliehunter1823
2 жыл бұрын
@@baneverything5580 a few planes have gone down because of them.
@Lordoftheflatbush
8 ай бұрын
Switched to a power station several years ago and never regretted this step.
@THANKS4LIFE
2 жыл бұрын
Great video, Thanks for information . My problem has been my 1500 watt invester to me dual batteries has blown twice and I'm not sure why. I've only used inverter for a tv and when I've plugged in my computer charger in to second outlet on inverter, it has blown twice, fuses are not replaceable unless taking inverter apart. Ground wire has been connected both times. any idea why inverter keeps blowing..? Thank you...
@dirtnap3073
2 жыл бұрын
Wish you had a video on the install and wiring. I'm setting up something similar in my H3 for camping this summer but there are a few aspects of the set up that I'm still figuring out. Thanks for the videos.
@dirtnap3073
2 жыл бұрын
Nm I'm an idiot I just found the install video... 😁😆😂
@sharon7382
2 жыл бұрын
Check out Will Prowse’s channel 👍🏼
@gerald4nomads
2 жыл бұрын
I’m currently a weekend warrior and dive a Ford Transit AWD. And I still Prefer my Arkpak with a chins 100 amp lifepo4 battery that I recharge with my Honda EU 2200i generator Because I hate solar panels. Total Cost for all three was about $1200.
@conkiendien
2 жыл бұрын
The Jackery's battery is rated for 500 cycles. While that should last you on the road, it's also far less than standalone batteries (although it is exactly on par with many competitors, including Goal Zero). A typical AGM battery can last 1000 cycles.Feb 8, 2021
@BlueWonderLady
2 жыл бұрын
Yes, this crucial fact is not talked about enough. The fact that any battery eventually has to be replaced.
@PHOENIXOVERLAND
2 жыл бұрын
was doing a quad battery setup necessary even though your gladiator came with 2 batteries already? could you convert the dual batteries in the engine compartment into a dual battery set up for overlanding and still have the peace of mind of being able to start your vehicle no matter what? my ford f250 tremor has 2 batteries already and I am trying to figure out my best option for power while overlanding
@TonyHookedonVanlife
4 ай бұрын
I am opting for the piece-by-piece set-up with individual batteries, inverter, etc. If something poops out, replace just IT & you're back up & running... not so with an all-in-one solution. One thing goes, its ALL out of commission. AND the watt hours:price ratio is waaay better. My 2 cents... EDIT: This is for a full-time #vanlife rig, not just a weekend or week-long vacation. I lived on the road for 2yrs in a self-converted minivan and am currently upgrading the setup for my return to mobile living. Right now I am in a sticks & bricks home in southeast Georgia & I HATE IT.
@madmonkey762
2 жыл бұрын
Overkill is what I'm looking for because having enough power is never enough. How much did it cost to set up everything that you showed in the video?
@OzarkOverlandAdventures
2 жыл бұрын
$2800ish because I used expensive batteries but they are excellent. I have the price breakdown in my how much does it cost to build a gladiator video.
@OzarkOverlandAdventures
10 ай бұрын
@@Drew_H92 I'm sure there are.
@anturadventure3642
2 жыл бұрын
Great video. I am torn between dual batteries or portable power station. Thanks for sharing.
@imaginitivity7853
2 жыл бұрын
I am not an expert, but my understanding is the different battery technology between the large ones in your truck and the Lithium ones (in the powerbank) is that you only really have half the 100Ah available per battery as discharging below that significantly reduces the lifetime of them. Whereas lithium batteries can be much more depleted without damage
@jimirving7990
Жыл бұрын
The 100 ah batteries in the back of his truck are also lithium batteries.
@glenboyer6258
2 ай бұрын
I am living out of my truck right now and have a Set Power 45RV cpowered by a Bluetti EB70S powered by the backseat 12volt at the same time. I do not see a problem with this with the EB mppt controller. Truck is powered by an AGM battery(starter). Do you or anyone see a problem with this?
@davidschloeder5344
9 ай бұрын
The pessimist here . Just V lifing it .yeh living in the van. Why is the " Powerstation " never advertised as a combination. LiFe battery 100Ah or 200Ah with built in USB Ports, Smart Charger Technology, Dc to AC converter. Overcharge protection. With one drawback, it charges on existing 110/220 if you own a house. Or ! Optional Solar Panels. Or wind. Or generator ! But what is cheaper than a second altenator on the RV or Van, directly to a DC to AC Converter to the "Powerstation". $220 alternator(plus belt tensioner hardware)🤷. $160 DC/AC converter ( use the PV +- Solar Panel jacks) 🙋. Plus the "Powerstation". Bypass the solar panels . Total $800 plus mounting hardware.. Then add the solar panels later. To do away w main engine idle. These Lithium ion Fe smart batteries arent cheap . Where are the rebates for RV and Van RVs. Ive been looking at this mess for 6 months. Evaluating costs. Exploring all these products. None of which bother to give an accurate description of the product. I.E. inverter generators cut down on idle when less current draw is required. So. In conclusion. Instead of throwing away money on gas , generators, solar. Why not get the main engine propane conververtion. It's $12,000-$15 k 🤷. Travel on propane fuel. At least til Li Fe batteries and Solar Panels compete with Lead acid batteries. Btw i've been charging my USB accessories ( phone, tablet, ear pods) for months on Lead Acid batteries. So far my cheapest option is a inverter generator. And they all have problems staying running. I'm seriously considering a hand generator. 5 -15 volt.
@nickfoley5193
14 күн бұрын
This must be am old video you said you can't run a powers tatian in parallel,wrong,you said nothing will change faster than 4 hrs,wrong
@vincentborrowdale3093
3 ай бұрын
It's the long haul that matters,,upgradable beats stuck every time..Volkswagen bug anyone..thanx. very stimulating..two heads are better then one...
@willdrivesu7914
Жыл бұрын
I have to say, I love your setup there...and the fact that it's so simple to wire up....everyone else I see with these systems look like they're opening a hatch on the space shuttle when you look at them.
@DualsPortvet
Жыл бұрын
No kidding! I'm trying to figure out how to do my setup and it seems everyone has his or her opinion, but non are the same. You can definitely tell some are over kill, but I can't tell which ones are crap. I'm really suprised that there's not more video's from the manufactures like Redarc on how to and what's needed. I'm not wanting "overkill", but redundancy. It's a fine line.
@ak.erryday
7 ай бұрын
I just bought a 12v fridge and ecoflow delta2 to keep mostly full time in my vehicle. We're starting to see the technology / price / performance equation tip clearly into the favor of a simple power station setup. The electrical surgery involved in a dual battery setup just isn't going to be worth it in the future.
@kurtburkhardt5862
Жыл бұрын
They each have specific advantages. We have both and they do complement each other. Redarc 1225, 200 watts solar, Optima blue top AGM. EcoFlow 1300 Delta. Particularly, on cloudy days or when we are at camp more than 2 days.
@pijanysamuraj
7 ай бұрын
hey, do you know if powerstation Aferiy P210 I can charge with my 1500W car inventer . like plug an inventer to car battery and then inventer to powerstation thru AC plug. I would be very thankful for any info
@antipro6537
Ай бұрын
This might be a stupid question but do you have to have the vehicle running to run appliances off a dual battery? Or are they mostly running off the battery’s charge while the vehicle is off?
@sigsour2266
8 ай бұрын
What about a 2 door wrangler? Could I potentially run the dual batteries if I remove the backseat ? My only problem is idk if it's necessary for me to have that much power as the dual battery. I'm in the very beginning stages of this and I would also mostly just be doing weekend camping trips and not so much overlanding . I would really only need to have some AC plug ins to possibly use a crock pot or electric skillet and maybe some lights and stuff. A portable might have more than what I even need
@thomassmith3310
8 ай бұрын
The portability issue is nice but if something goes wrong with one part the whole station is not worth much. I have three large battery boxes with a 100 amp battery in each one. I have a dual usb and 12 v outlet on each one. I have a 1000 and two 2000 w. Inverters. I have plenty of ac chargers and 11000 watts of solar on the roof. If any of the components goes bad it’s easily replaced.
@timflaherty2731
11 ай бұрын
I want to keep it simple with a Jackery but you made a comment about your buddy's jeep power tripping because the inverter was less powerful than the Jackery? Is that right? So confusing.
@4runner4ever83
9 ай бұрын
I have a portable dual battery with redarc and agm. See my video on my channel. It's more than enough for my fridge to run for 2 days. If starter battery stops working, i can just jump start it using my agm. Worked great during my month long trip last august.
@dadventuretv2538
2 жыл бұрын
Great vid. Batteries and electricity and charging times and kwh and amp hours and … well all of it is new to me. So this was super helpful in my current debate between going dual battery vs powerstation (not the 80s supergroup) for my Gladiator setup. You pretty much said what my research to date seemed to be saying about pros and cons and solidified my decision to go powerstation as all my set up is away from the truck. My plan tho is to charge via 115 watt plug in backseat of Gladiator so thanks for the comment re your friend- I checked mine and it is a 400 watt inverter so I should be good to charge most powerstations while driving, but it is something I’ll check before buying. A future vid idea that would be helpful to electricity and battery idiots like me would be to explain kwh vs amps vs watts and how charging time works re output rates of charger and input rates of battery, how to calculate the draw of an appliance on a battery etc. you know, the maths stuff and how to convert the different ways these things are measured.
@PatrickKQ4HBD
2 жыл бұрын
Will Prowse has a great video explaining the basics of electrical math. You only need to be able to do the very simplest forms of algebra. Volts=Amps*Ohms. Watts=Volts*Amps. Buy the Ugly's 2020 Electrical Handbook app for $20. Really helpful.
@theMekanik
2 жыл бұрын
#willprowse on KZitem explains it all very easily & #lithiumsolar
@ricklavis5292
2 жыл бұрын
I have had a dual battery setup in my truck camper for 26 years with upgrades along the way. But in my new van I went with a Bluetti 200 max power station. Gives a cleaner look inside the van than all the separate pieces and is 2048WH and 2200 watt inverter. I run my fridge from the 12 volt cigarette plug and my lights from one of the 5521 outlets. On a really rough road I run the fridge from one of the ac outlets. It has a 30 amp 12 volt outlet that I can wire to a fuse block if I want to hard wire various devices. It has 4 ac outlets and multiple usb and barrel connector outlets plus two wireless phone charging pads on top. You can add an additional battery from Bluetti but at a prohibitive cost. Both systems work great and the cost was about the same. So it probably comes down to personal preference and ease of setup.
@herblapp6134
2 жыл бұрын
I designed and built an 800 watt solar panel system that feeds 4 - 6V deep cycle flooded batteries in my enclosed cargo trailer converted to a one-man rv. I did it because l wanted to and started 2-1/2 yrs ago. The portable bricks were barely available probably because Li cells were so expensive. With the price drop and large competition brick prices have dropped to $1.00/watt. If this were the situation the same today and knowing my experience, I'd opt for portable. Too convenient and flexible. I had to go with deep cycle batteries because l couldn't afford Lithium's first cost.
@Alex_556
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for an observation! Pricewise, the power solution should not exceed the level of $0.5 per 1 watt-hour to be considered as "normally" priced this days. You can get it even cheaper from Ali. So $1500 level for Jackery-1500 is overpriced roughly twice.
@koltrasten
2 жыл бұрын
I have taken apart a few ali express units and they are fire hazards waiting to happened. Worst unit I reviewed came with a refurbished cell that was swollen and it was branded as new. They use undergauged wires and some dont even use proper fuses or enough of them. And some other notes: 1. They usually come with weak and unreliable inverters that dont even provide pure sine wave, meaning they arent suitable for laptops or sensitive electronics. 2. The built in solar charger in them are usually the lowest quality PWM chargers rated at 10A at best. I would stay clear of any no-name "solar generator" and pay a few extra bucks to get one from a trusted brand.
@CannabisUseOnly
2 жыл бұрын
@@koltrasten where are these reviews? what brands would you recommend?
@baneverything5580
2 жыл бұрын
@@koltrasten I`ve bought several "no name" style power stations as backup units. I bought five 250 and 300 watt ones for 100 each. They appear to be high quality and reviews are positive. I also bought two 500 watt units for 250 each for powering a dorm fridge. I also have two Bluetti EB70s for freezers, and 300 watt ones by Golabsa and Rockpals. All get cycled and tested regularly to spot issues.
@rjdurham3197
2 жыл бұрын
Great video! I'm new to overlanding. I drive a gen 2 Tacoma. Just put the globalraod side kick 2. Your videos are really helpful to picking out what kind of set up I'm going with over time.
@Chubbydippin
2 жыл бұрын
Interesting segment. Thanks for covering this. I prefer the all in one solar generator vs sourcing, purchasing and mounting all the components separately. Maybe it's my age, but I don't get this movement's name. Most cars and trucks don't fly or float. They all mostly travel on land. Offroad makes sense because your not driving on roads. Over land sounds more like a reference to a plane's flight path when not flying over water. Here's another oddity, when I was young, 100 yrs ago, the "goat" was who got blamed when everything went wrong or fell apart. Quite the opposite of, Greatest of All Time. Back then, me and Abe Simpson preferred the kiwi lime flavored asbestos shoe polish toothpaste too.
@NoonMight
2 жыл бұрын
If it makes your decision change, it is cheaper to build your own. Jackery 300w = $300, or Buy a 100ah 12v battery ($180) and your choice of an inverter (300w-1000w) can be up to $90, so that’s $270 at the most, for way more power than a $300 generator.
@MauroMarzorati
2 жыл бұрын
How does the release of the Anker that you reviewed recently alter the calculus you ran through in this video, if at all?
@OzarkOverlandAdventures
2 жыл бұрын
It doesn't. Everything still applies.
@donaldfrazier5244
8 ай бұрын
The price for a portable power station vs a battery home built is the real issue also if a power station fails you are done,at least with a home build you can replace the failed component and get back up fairly inexpensive!
@billwiley7216
Жыл бұрын
Another con to just buying the portable power station when a part in it dies or the batteries are used up and done the whole system needs to be replaced. Even if you need a power station that can be moved from say the house to the vehicle you can build a DIY system in a portable box on wheels and still have the better quality parts and the ability to upgrade or replace just one defective component. Granted not as small as the prebuilt portables but a much more capable system that still retains a movable status. I learned a long time ago when possible do not use something that is an "all in one" unit as sure it may a bit more convenient but it also more subject to become dumpster fare when a single component fails.
@MyIronman8
2 жыл бұрын
duel battery's is the best . you can change each part if one goes out
@JamieLafontaine-r8v
9 ай бұрын
VTOman now makes a 1500w/hr solar generator that fully charges in 1 hour.
@dysfunctionalveteranforlife
11 ай бұрын
Do these batteries need to be kept dry? I’m on a Ram 1500 with a bed rack and rtt. The bed does get wet. Thanks!
@rinusheemskerk
8 ай бұрын
I’ve got a bluetti and they are upgradable . Mine is 2000wh and can upgrade till 8000wh with extra batteries 2000W AC Pure Sine Wave Inverter (4,800W Surge) 2,000Wh Capacity LiFePO4 Battery with 3,500+ Life Cycles to 80% 17 Outputs For Multiple Devices 7 Ways to Recharge (AC/Solar/Car/Generator/Lead battery/Dual AC/AC+Solar) 700W Max. Solar Input 1100W Max. Fast Dual Charging (Solar + AC Adapter Simultaneously) This all for less than $1500
@OzarkOverlandAdventures
8 ай бұрын
They aren’t upgradable. They are expandable. Good luck carrying all that with you.
@elvindekle9835
8 ай бұрын
You need to çheck your bypass diodes. They burn and lose their resistance and pass current. Or
@brianmiller1687
2 жыл бұрын
I appreciate your easy to understand technical videos like this. You are seriously good at explaining complex things. I know you're in Arkansas and thus not a super cold climate. If you were to venture into colder areas during this time of year with your setup, what would you have to do to make sure your that setup continued to operate properly since the Li batteries are sensitive?
@OzarkOverlandAdventures
2 жыл бұрын
that's a great question. I know they make battery warmers that I might could look into.
@kyleseaverson5178
2 жыл бұрын
If you're building from the ground up and plan to spend alot of time in the cold, Battleborn makes (and I imagine you can find elsewhere) LiFe PO4 batteries with integrated heaters that activate with a switch. I would also probably consider putting them in the cab area, where you can warm them up on the go. I actually have a switch connected to the lead for my DC/DC charger so I can manually shut the system off until my rig warms up (I keep mine inside) even though the BMS has a temp shutoff. I wonder if you enclosed the battery system in some insulation if simply throwing some hand warmers in would do the trick.
@Westcoastrocksduh
Жыл бұрын
You can charge fast at near 500w in your car to the hackers if you wire it correctly. Fast charging!
@matteastwood-g5u
9 ай бұрын
What’s stopping someone from buying 1-2 deep cycle batteries that are 600a 12v with a 5,000w power inverter making 7200-14400w log hours rather than say a Ecoflow delta which is 3600wh which would be 1/3rd the price or less for triple-6x the power. Not sure what I’m missing I am new to this. Can’t find an answer. Deka marine master has a 600a 12v battery for 144$. I know that’s a lot of power but it would be cool to have weeks of power on end no solar.
@OzarkOverlandAdventures
9 ай бұрын
Doing that with AGM/Lead Acid batteries is a horrible idea. I have a video on AGM vs Lithium you should watch.
@nickmcdonald6731
8 ай бұрын
These all in ones solutions are what makes overlanding seem out of reach for most people.
@aday1637
Жыл бұрын
Jackery is so yesterday. Still using MNC batteries(which are dangerous) with slow charging. EcoFlow has LiPo4 batteries and will charge in an hour or less. And LiPo4 batteries will last for 10 years or longer with daily use. Not the Jackery. Video says you can't add another batter for more capacity with portable...WRONG!!!! With EcoFlow you can plug in extra batteries and add as you can afford. This video must be 5 years old.
@OzarkOverlandAdventures
Жыл бұрын
The date is listed with the video. 🤦🏼♂️ it’s almost 2 years old.
@aimelise
6 ай бұрын
Can you share more detail about what redarc components you’re using? Beside Bluetooth battery monitoring, what are some of the other features these batteries have over the $300 100Ah lithium phosphate batteries on Amazon? New to DIY, so trying to understand.
@OzarkOverlandAdventures
6 ай бұрын
the only redarc component is the BCDC1250 charger. For the batteries you basically get better quality in the BMS, local US based customer service and the bluetooth monitoring is a HUGE deal but other companies are coming out with that for less.
@Thumper7818
2 жыл бұрын
Great video. I drive a tractor trailer and use a jackery 1000 To power my portable coffee pot ,electric skillet and hot pot And it works out fantastic. It needs charging in the middle of the week and I just plug it in the cigarette lighter for the day while I'm going down the road doing my thing . I heard that if you charge it slower and don't go completely to a 100% percent, I go to 95%-97% when I can catch it, that it has a longer life.
@baneverything5580
2 жыл бұрын
Keep the cycles between 20% and 80% for a much longer life. Or if possible try to go between 30% and 70% to get over 3000 cycles from it. But every three or four months fully charge/discharge it to keep the cells balanced.
@CCerwin
5 ай бұрын
Hey Johnny Bravo,, “Man !! I’am Pretty” lol
@FelizOutdoors
4 ай бұрын
Looking into options for my truck camping. Will a 1500w Jackery paired with a solar panel to charge the jackery power a vehicle refrigerator for say 2 weeks or so?
@OzarkOverlandAdventures
4 ай бұрын
depends on the weather and if you get enough sun.
@gainz6718
Жыл бұрын
New Lipo4 batteries destroy all that has been said here. If you have the money to buy a large portable pack you are set for 10 years, recharge within 1.5hr @1000+ watt charging speed. Technology has changed rapidly. Might as well remove this clip. Get yourself a 200amp lipo4 battery for the back of the jeep with self heating if you want both power set ups.
@OzarkOverlandAdventures
Жыл бұрын
My aux batteries are 200ah Lifepo4.
@AlecBig
Ай бұрын
Always great information thank you
@nelsondejesus5123
9 ай бұрын
Looking at you and seeing your pretty hair style tells me that you can not survive out in the wild without electricity 😂 Going camping in the woods is ment to get away from modern comforts and roughing it out with mother nature. Manning Up isn't easy 😂😂😂 Have fun with all your equipment in the woods playing boyscout wait a minute buyouts don't use all that stuff to go camping 😂😂😂😂 I'm just saying 😅
@OzarkOverlandAdventures
9 ай бұрын
Tell me you just go camping on the weekends and have never spent 4 weeks living out of your rig without telling me. 😂😂😂😂 I’m sure I would be very impressed with your manliness 🤦🏼♂️🤦🏼♂️😂
@mikeswildoutdoors7279
Ай бұрын
Thanks great video! I built a Solar/AC rechargeable Generator, using 4 Battleborn 100 AH Batteries, 3,000 watt pure sine wave industrial inverter 2 victron charge controllers that communicate with each other for optimum charging by Solar, I wired them in parallel for a 400 AH battery bank 4800 WH , I run a 8,000 BTU Midea U AC unit in the tent with it, works fantastic with good sunlight.
@TheBlue350ss
Жыл бұрын
Could I run a camp fridge with a power station?
@brianwadsworth5752
3 ай бұрын
I love your battery setup! Question- what d you do with your batteries during the winter? Do you use a battery tender to keep them from discharging and freezing?
@OzarkOverlandAdventures
3 ай бұрын
I just drive my jeep like normal.
@Taco_d_pastor
2 жыл бұрын
Do you have a video of your batteries set up? Would love to have some like that on my truck
@OzarkOverlandAdventures
2 жыл бұрын
Yes. I did a full breakdown on it a couple months ago.
@calgreco8607
10 ай бұрын
So you have Solar, Portable Power Gen., Inverter , and dual batteries. So I have a new Tacoma with 400 watt outlet in bed. will this charge a Portable Power Gen? Great video by the way.
@OzarkOverlandAdventures
10 ай бұрын
Depends on the power station. Most of the new fast charging power stations can’t be charged with the bed outlets.
@notagain8661
Жыл бұрын
It's funny people think these are magic. Their still all just a battery in a box. Little one, little battery, bigger one bigger battery. It's not magic. Just buy a motorcycle or car battery and a few connectors and you have the samething at a qtr of the price.
@OzarkOverlandAdventures
Жыл бұрын
I'm curious how you're going to charge that simple battery with a few connectors? You know... since its the same thing.
@bitsurfr46
10 ай бұрын
If we are talking portable power stations, don't overlook the Licitti Battery Box. Multiple DC ports, A 1000 watt inverter, and a MPPT charge controller for only $168 plus shipping. All you need to do is drop in a 100AH LiFeP2O4 battery.
@Slim-m3i
8 ай бұрын
How do they work in the cold. Do they have built in heating
@Spelunkernaut
2 жыл бұрын
I went with the Bluetti AC200P (2000 watt hr, LifePo4 ) with a 350 watt solar panel(can add another 350 for 700 watts total). I looked at all the options with secondary batteries. Seemed like unless you go LifePo4 (lithium iron phosphate) batteries, your just not going to have the same capacity or life cycles using anything else. Your charge rates seem off on the portable power stations, the new BMS systems charge a lot quicker, I charge mine in 3 hrs from 20% to full off the 400 watt inverter built into my FJ cruiser, 6hrs on solar on a good sunny day, its also bluetooth with more options, has built in pure sine inverter capable of running 6 1800 watt appliances at once, 4800 watt peak start up, it's not permanetly installed in place (can change storage configuration), has all the features with a good warranty over diy setup. Runs my Dometic 75 qt dual zone fridge for 3-4 days until it needs a charge, and costs $1500 compared to $2500 or more for your setup. Dont get me wrong I really like your setup, I was really close to building a very similar system, but the portability is just a game changer. Being able to change vehicles and keep everything together with minimal issues made my decision.
@OzarkOverlandAdventures
2 жыл бұрын
That is one advantage of a power station that I mention in the video. I also have the AC200 and it's a great one. But for my Gladiator I like having the aux battery setup much better than a power station. It just depends on your rig and how you're going to use it.
@Spelunkernaut
2 жыл бұрын
@@OzarkOverlandAdventures Yes, for sure. Im just seeing the portable units really catching up on built in systems. Especially when the next round of units I'm seeing coming out from manufactures will be expandable. I was giving a hard look at the AC200 max for the expandability.
@BrianThorne
9 ай бұрын
I got an ecoflow 2 for $400 on Amazon with 1000w draw
@MrErik038
6 ай бұрын
Informative video, thank you for your time. A 2000/3000w inverter is a litlle entousiastic.. maybe for short periods time at most! It takes a big batterysetupp!! A 1000wats inverter is realistic. Watever your electric needs/setupp, just remember it is free power if you carefully set it up. It needs to last becose its expecive. That being said, i know/talk to a lot of consumers and most replace batterys in a few years€€ it comes to a well tougth setupp that serves you well for many years..
@sagii86
9 ай бұрын
Price on power station isn't expensive at all, especially lithium ones. You can get the pecron s1500 for 499. Also comes with 400w ac fast charger 0-100 in 3.5 hours. You don't even need to be at home most of the time to charge it. If you hook up an inverter in your car you can charge it while you drive.
@able880
Жыл бұрын
For most your better off with a power station with a LiF PO4 battery and a 800 or 1000 watt inverter generator to charge the battery once a day - Solar panels don't work well at all in many parts of the country due to humidity or weather - it's the same with wind turbines along with the continued noise were there is good wind as on beaches and on boats - the turbines have a high failure rate - There are small inverter generators from 850 to 1000 watts that will work well for most power stations - most generators deliver 20% less than there rating - The LIFAN 860i states it's 800 watts or so but can only put out 600 watts continues - the. Sportsman 1000 inverter gen states it is 1000 watts but can only deliver 800 watts continues - The LIFAN 860i will run 5 hrs at full load on 3 pints of gas - the sportsman will run 5 hrs at full load on 2 quart's of gas -- when you get a power station look at how long it takes to charge it to 85% - You prefer a 6 hrs charge rate to 85% charged - also that the battery will accept a charge at least 2500 times - If you live in the deep South US - you would need 50 one hundred watt solar panels to meet his power needs from what I can tell - to charge his battery's - when the sun does shine or one sportsman 1000 watt inverter generator will do the job - for a half gallon of gas a day - Regular none inverter generators will charge most power station very very slow - so the inverter generators are preferred - If the noise of an inverter gen bothers you - you can put the generator up to 350 ft from your camp sight and run a light gauge extension cord to it - It's better to use air cooled engine gas that you buy at lawn centers and chain saw shops - in camping generators - I have a Honda 650 camping generator I have used for 30 yrs to charge a battery when camping - some times I have camped on free beaches on the gulf coast for 6 months straight with my son's when they were young - I had a fridge, fans, lights, bag phone, radio ECT that ran off a power station with a gel cell in it - I was a systems tech in the offshore oil field for yrs every thing was off grid - I've worked on many generators - so I understand power -
@garygooch8638
24 күн бұрын
I agree I have a 2000w pure sine wave generator that runs super quiet and the newer power stations will recharge in about an hr. They also come with the Lif Po4 batteries that can be recharged daily for approx 10 yrs. While this set-up is nice. It's also expensive.
@able880
24 күн бұрын
@@garygooch8638 were I live in the rural deep south many didn't receive power from REA till the 1960s - For those who had power they had large 6 volt flooded lead acid battery for house battery's - Those who had the money had a. Large bank of cells that made up 32 volts and all the lights and appliances ran on 32 volts DC - .... They had motor generators that generated 115 volts AC off the 32 volts to run florescent lights in Borns - Any appliances sold as 110 AC was sold in small towns in the 32 volts DC version also - Down here house battery's used a acid strength of 1.210 instead of the1.275 strength today - Also farm house battery's were sized to run a house a week and charging once a week in winter and twice a week in summer - Generally because of the generator noise every one charged there house battery's all day Friday during winter and during summer they charge Friday and Monday - The fans and fridges use more power In summer - With the weaker acid the battery's lasted 50 to 60 yrs - Down here the battery bank was sized at 21 kw available power - hybrid was in use in rural America from the 1890s my grand father was an early electrician - it's not new -
@ArmTheCreative
7 ай бұрын
A lot of overthinking goes on between this debate. I ended up purchasing a 1000W Jackery and after a year it’s perfect for me still. I have a minimal set up because I don’t want my vehicle turning into my home. I charge laptops, cameras, and drones. And I use a coffee grinder, water boiler, air fryer, and crockpot. The more power people get, the more STUFF they want to add to their vehicle.
@jamestaylor9258
Жыл бұрын
Why not hook up the power station to your alternator? Easy to do. Then you have the portability, if needed, and power storage without carrying around multiple batteries.
@OzarkOverlandAdventures
Жыл бұрын
For all the other reasons I stated…
@gregreinert642
8 ай бұрын
Thanks for the great info. I have a 21 f150 with the 2k pro power onboard generstor which includes two rear outlets in the bed. Since the 2k power inverter only works when engine is running, I'd like to take advantage of drive time to charge either a battery bank or Jachery type system. I expect to run a refrigerator that will run off onboard generator while running, some lighting, fans, device charging and some type of coffeemaker. I think you would recommend the battery bank, but wanted to hear your thoughts on best set up to use with the ProPower generator. Thank- Greg
@johnr5608
9 ай бұрын
How does the redarc bcdc handle being exposed to the elements? Particularly rain and snow. Thanks
@OzarkOverlandAdventures
9 ай бұрын
It's fully weather proof. I've never had an issue with it.
@Krakzzz
8 ай бұрын
I have a small camper, but bigger than the one in the video. Lots of 12 volts and only one 230 volt AC socket (Germany). The Powerbox only has advantages. It is more compact and mobile. I can use it outside the camper. I actually take two boxes with me. Then I can put one with the panels in the sun. The only disadvantage is the low power consumption from the car's alternator. In addition, the boxes have become much cheaper
@LeneMulan-jt2dc
8 ай бұрын
Do you have a website where i can order one battery ?????
@jukeofearl
7 ай бұрын
Thanks for the video. Would have liked to do a duel battery setup but I don’t have the space without engine bay modifications. I drive a 2007 Honda Element and do mostly camping and light trails so I went with the EcoFlow River Pro 2 with a 220 watt solar panel at this point cause of ease of use and space. I am also not out for more than a few days at a time so I don’t need a crazy amount of power. Also Nashville has had lots of grid issues lately so having this as a backup to bring into the house for the fridge in case of an emergency is also another reason for the power station. Really liked the video. Thanks.
@cdelamare1
8 ай бұрын
MThanks for all he information here! I have never heard of a 'red ark'. Would you explain what it is an how/why it's so useful to have with your battery set up. I'm really just learning. Thanks again
@dwightnelson1358
9 ай бұрын
I've not read through all the comments or watched the whole video but wanted to point out that the batteries you have cannot be charged below freezing. Here are the specs on the batteries: Safe Operating Temperatures: Charging: 32°F ~ 122°F (0 ~ 50°C) . I built a similar system to yours and added temp sensing such that if the battery temp is below freezing a heater turns on to heat the battery and cuts off the charging system.
@dred5375
5 ай бұрын
Ecoflow now makes one that can be wired to the alternator.
@georger987
Жыл бұрын
Very helpful video. Thanks for sharing. Can you please let me know the storage boxes YOU used to place those batteries? Size? Model? Brand? Thanks again. JAR
@GordonSmith-x3w
9 ай бұрын
I bought the bluetti ac200p it turn up with faults on pv/car and ac output it's been over 2 weeks and still getting the run around,there is no customer service,I seriously wouldn't buy anything from this company
@deathspawn54
9 ай бұрын
I got a 700w power station and a 260w solar panel for $1000 CAD, hoping that will do for now to power my heated blanket andb12v cooler/fridge
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