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@stbananastein
2 жыл бұрын
This was lovely. It amazes me how her work has endured. Though Forster wrote these words 100 years ago, they still ring so true today.
@dsr8223
2 жыл бұрын
I had assumed Kitty was trying to change the subject to deflect attention from her cough. The missing indentation and attribution of the line to Mr. Bennett instead is much more plausible, though. My eyes are opened.
@rosezingleman5007
2 жыл бұрын
We Austenites pour over Dear Jane’s text with the dedication of biblical scholars. An indentation rocks our world as if a long lost scroll has been found in a desert cave.
@DrOctaviaCox
2 жыл бұрын
Once you know, then _of course_ it is Mr Bennet and not Kitty!
@samoinborut1339
2 жыл бұрын
Beautifully said.
@dsr8223
2 жыл бұрын
Beautifully put!
@dorothywillis1
2 жыл бұрын
You may "pour" over your texts, but I keep mine clean!
@rolloadams
2 жыл бұрын
I love Forster, and I love Austen! I never knew of Forster’s link to her. Thank you so much for sharing this wonderful article of his.
@fayej6591
2 жыл бұрын
One of my favorite classes from college was “Media and Manners: Austen and Forster.” We read and analyzed the cinematic adaptations of three novels of each. Emma, Persuasion, Sense and Sensibility, A Room with a View, Howard’s End, and Maurice.
@rolloadams
2 жыл бұрын
@@fayej6591 Sounds like my dream class!
@fayej6591
2 жыл бұрын
@@rolloadams it was! I took it just for fun. (I was a social science major).
@jrpipik
2 жыл бұрын
A thoughtful essay. One assumes the published editions have many errata, and we have so few manuscripts to compare them to. But... What the heck is he wearing in that photo?
@paulaschroen3954
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, that outfit is wild!
@rebeccaday8612
2 жыл бұрын
It was when he was in India. He's wearing a men's kurta (long shirt).
@OstblockLatina
2 жыл бұрын
I swear I thought he was doing the reversed George Sand thing...
@jrpipik
2 жыл бұрын
@@rebeccaday8612 Thanks!
@mrs.manrique7411
2 жыл бұрын
That was beautiful. I’ll never forget those apricots, let me tell you. In the pronunciation of Samwise Gamgee, they tasted like PO-TAY-TOES.
@jolieonetoo
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this. It addresses, I believe, the issues of editorship that were raised to me recently by a friend who dismissed Austen's work because it was not always spelt correctly or grammatically correct.
@londongael
2 жыл бұрын
AAAaaarghh! Where do you start...?
@londongael
2 жыл бұрын
Wow, never been first commenter before! (unless, as sometimes happens, KZitem is late in showing me the comments). Anyway, thank you for this - I first read it many years ago, but don't have a copy any more, so it was nice to be re-acquainted. That sentence "how always known no principle to supply as a duty..." has stuck in my mind all these years. I'm not sure I agree with Chapman and Forster about it. It makes perfect sense to me as it stands (though an unusual construction) - Fanny had always known that about Henry. It goes with the repetition in the previous sentences, two starting "Here was again...", and then "How evidently...", "How always known...". The whole is about how Henry's selfish conduct should be no surprise - not "Aha! NOW she knew!" Indeed, both Fanny and the reader have had ample opportunity to observe his thoughtlessness. The other point, about attributing the question to Mr Bennet, I agree with. It simply shows that any imperfections are in the printing, not in Austen's writing! Proud Austenite here :-)!
@AMoniqueOcampo
2 жыл бұрын
This was why I called myself an Austenite back in high school. I never liked the term "Janeite."
@stevenlight5006
2 жыл бұрын
To true ,
@GardenGirl33
2 жыл бұрын
That was lovely! I always found EM Foster a bit overrated, but this makes me like ever so much more and I may give his novels another try.
@stevenlight5006
2 жыл бұрын
O due yes please
@lynneperry7454
2 жыл бұрын
My, somewhat hazy, memory of the 1995 tv production is that Mr Bennett asks the question “when is your next ball to be”. Clearly I need to re-read the book to be sure.
@mrs.manrique7411
2 жыл бұрын
I was thinking that, too. I am sure some tv productions took that literary critique and reattributed the line back to the estimable father, Mr. Bennett.
@dorothywillis1
2 жыл бұрын
It's in Chapter 2.
@AD-hs2bq
2 жыл бұрын
You have inspired me to buy Love and Friendship and Other Youthful Writings. It will be fun to read these and appreciate how clever, thoughtful, observant and talented Jane was and how she played with themes and wit early in her life. Thank you.
@bonnieschofield2947
2 жыл бұрын
Love the ticking of the clock at the end!
@irenem7414
2 жыл бұрын
Sounds like he and Charlotte Bronte would have gotten along like a house on fire.
@jshafham1
2 жыл бұрын
So now I know I, too, am an Austenite. Thank you, and Forster too, for this identification. And do please tell us what he is wearing in the photo?!
@rebeccaday8612
2 жыл бұрын
He's wearing an Indian shirt.
@bookmouse2719
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, lovely.
@catrionahall8435
2 жыл бұрын
That R W Chapman OUP illustrated edition E M F refers to is still my favourite, the Cambridge edition is somehow very unsatisfactory, it does not smell pleasant and is uncomfortable to hold. And, yes, I do have all of both editions so the comparison is a very personal one and may not be true for other people.
@lynneperry7454
2 жыл бұрын
I love that you are noting the difference in smell between the two editions. There have been books I can’t read for that reason,
@--enyo--
Жыл бұрын
That was really interesting!
@rodbodnod
Жыл бұрын
P.S I loved your analysis of Pope's Rape of the lock(brief as it was!)
@stevenlight5006
2 жыл бұрын
E.M.F. his storytelling is a close second to our dear Jane,
@edsepe2258
2 жыл бұрын
Jane my friend, thank you
@jspohl
Ай бұрын
555 likes and 9,777 views for this the first video I opened in the playlist today - which seems like a wonderful sign from for universe because the last video I watched earlier today on this channel about Mr and Mrs Bennet had 199,333 views. That had impressed me enough as angel numbers are always a wonderful sign for me but this is even better. So thank you universe! And all the authors in spirit inspiring us still. Much love!💖
@californiak2891
2 жыл бұрын
I loved that. Thank you!
@rodbodnod
Жыл бұрын
I find Forster an utter bore and I find that some English people read him simply because they find Irish writers like Joyce and Flann O Brien and Beckett too much trouble. Re 19thC writers from England, in my opinion George Eliot and Hardy are the world's best and no one comes close
@amybee40
2 жыл бұрын
I feel like this whole essay is tongue-in-cheek and that Forster really doesn't like Jane Austen at all.
@margo3367
2 жыл бұрын
I felt like he was giving the male editor much of the credit.
@lizziebkennedy7505
2 жыл бұрын
That was glorious, made all the more so by your erudite, witty and respectful reading. Thank you!!!!!
@gracetaylor7351
2 жыл бұрын
Love this a lot ! Thanks !❤️
@j.t.1215
11 ай бұрын
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@markteltscher9746
2 жыл бұрын
Why do you think Austen wrote a tribute to the Prince Regent in Emma when clearly she did not want to?
@veronicajaeger3604
2 жыл бұрын
Jane was invited to dedicate Emma to the Prince Regent, although she despised him. That invitation was equivalent to a royal command. She had to do it, and I think she did it well.
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