I’d absolutely appreciate it if you made a video about how to deal with the animosity an individual might carry towards people who forced a traumatic religious experience onto them. It’s something I think a lot of us have dealt with.
@pameladeleone135
4 ай бұрын
Great idea!
@KatelynDawn
4 ай бұрын
This!! And also... I don't know about everyone else but one of my therapists told me I was the hardest on myself out of anyone she ever met. The church did this to me by telling me I was guilty and unworthy and human garbage, but that the bar was perfection. So I worked as hard as I could to bridge that gap. Putting unrealistic expectations for myself is an engrained habit. And then beating myself up via "emotional flogging" when I don't achieve it. It's a recipe for burnout in every aspect of my life. So maybe chatting about how christianity can cause people to put unrealistic pressure on themselves and how that plays out: anxiety, depression, burnout etc.
@Reed5016
4 ай бұрын
@@KatelynDawn Honestly, that’s definitely something I struggle with. Feeling like I have to constantly be performing perfectly and putting my all into everything. Because we’re taught that if we’re not doing that, we aren’t trying to bring glory to god. And once we leave Christianity, that mindset stays with us, believing that constantly working our a**es off justifies our existence. And that we’re somehow less worthy if we need to take a break, and spend time on ourselves.
@KellyRMinter
4 ай бұрын
The animosity piece is pretty key, I can definitely put that in the list of future topics. Thanks so much! 🧡🧡
@KellyRMinter
4 ай бұрын
Perfectionism is absolutely a struggle for so many coming out of a religious background, great point! I will put that on the list also 💚💚
@VanessaMarieBooks
4 ай бұрын
My question as a kid was "why am I being punished for Adam & Eve's sin? I wasn't in the garden, I didn't eat the fruit. I don't even like apples (assuming it was an apple 🤷🏽♀)." It was always weird to me that the whole world and everyone born since then would be guilty because of 2 people's mistakes.
@marleee.2174
4 ай бұрын
This is kind of how I think about it as someone who does believe. You know how they say how you grow up is based on how your parents raised you? You could take it a step farther and say well how your parents grew up is a result of how their parents raised them and so on. If you kept going you could say that in an indirect way that your upbringing is because of the result of your great-great-great-great grandfather and grandmother because they raised children who raised more children who raised more children that eventually led to you (pretty much the same way genetics work with the passing down of traits). Sure you never met them but their actions ultimately result in who you are today. My understanding is it’s kind of like that. If you believe that humans are descendants of Adam and Eve, then you also believe that you’re stuck with the natural consequences of their sin (it’s unfair I know but that’s the logic behind it) In general though, I think the point is that not everyone’s perfect (except for Jesus according to the Scripture) and the Bible tries to give an explanation as to why that is through the story of Adam and Eve
@Aelffwynn
4 ай бұрын
@@marleee.2174 i respect that you are trying to make sense of the Bible. The comparison when you say it's passed down like genetic traits is interesting to me, because no one chooses their genetic traits either. Assuming god exists, he chose our traits. And especially knowing what we know about neuroscience, we know that our ability to "resist temptation" and not sin is at least partly dependent on how our brains are hardwired. So god makes people who are fundamentally flawed, and then punishes them for it?
@VanessaMarieBooks
4 ай бұрын
@@marleee.2174 Problem with this comparison is even if I have traits that have been passed down to me from my great-great-great-great-great grandfather/grandmother, no one (except the biblical god) is punishing me or threatening to punish me for all eternity just for being born with a trait I didn't ask for to begin with. Let's not forget he created this system to begin with. If he's "almighty, all-powerful god" couldn't he have simply said, every single person who is born is born with a clean slate and you don't become a "sinner" unless YOU are disobedient, not because your ancestor thousands of years ago was disobedient?
@justb4116
4 ай бұрын
I guess that's what 'born again' refers to - a point when accepting jesus provides that clean slate, if a person chose it through thoughts, words and deeds
@VanessaMarieBooks
4 ай бұрын
@@justb4116 Why do we have to chose to have a clean slate, when we didn't get a choice in being born with a "sinner's" trait to begin with? If everyone is automatically born a "sinner" cause of Adam & Eve's choices, then why isn't everyone born with a clean slate once Jesus made the choice to die for everyone?
@lizziedeerest
4 ай бұрын
Trigger warning for mental health and self-harm: // I hope you don’t mind me sharing something specific from my childhood, but when I was 15-16 I started to self-harm because of the catholic church and how I couldn’t stop myself from repeated sins (I couldn’t be “perfect”). I was stuck in an awful loop because I couldn’t receive communion due to my “sins”, and so it outcasted me within that social setting, and I took on the guilt and shame and turned it into tangible harm for myself. I know this is wild to share in a public space, and I hope I haven’t made anybody uncomfortable, but it was so long ago that I feel detached and understand how my mindset was all backwards back then. So I don’t treat it as a deep dark secret, lol, it’s just totally In The Past. The only part that still makes me angry (apart from discussing these problems with full-grown adults in the church because I felt obligated to share…. Yikes), was that my mom took me to a catholic therapist who barely asked me any questions and then said I was totally fine and didn’t need to be seen for another 6 weeks (she said this in front of me). In reality, I had depression that was effecting every part of my life, and was later diagnosed with bipolar II disorder and anxiety disorders. ❤🩹 Childhood in the church is rough! That goes double if you have a delusional parent who is extra invested.
@AG_KEMPER
4 ай бұрын
Lizzie, I had a very similar experience in the Catholic Church. I was very focused on how "sinful" I was and denied myself a great deal of "luxuries" (read: necessities of life like food) as penance. Luckily, I've taken myself out of that culture and have been deconstructing for a few years now. I hope you are healing. YOU. ARE. NOT. UNWORTHY. OF. LOVE. ❤❤❤
@KellyRMinter
4 ай бұрын
First of all, thank you for sharing this part of your story with us. Secondly, I am so sorry that happened to you. It is not ok and it should not have happened. You deserved to have adults in your life that really heard you, and I am sorry you had to do that work by yourself 💜💜
@rachelgueste6165
4 ай бұрын
I would love a video on whether or not kids should be in church. I’ve deconstructed my Christianity and now that I’m a mom I feel a strong ick when I think about sending my sweet baby boy to Sunday school.
@VashtiPerry
4 ай бұрын
I'm not. My daughter will not go listen to these people use worse manipulation tactics than Hollywood to learn about God. I'm taking it into my own hands. My daughter is 2 but we are starting with prayer. If she wants to go to some events when she is older that's fine but I'll be sure she has confidence in herself and I'll be open to discuss whatever questions she has.
@VanessaMarieBooks
4 ай бұрын
I personally believe that teaching/indoctrinating kids with religion is child abuse. Our society obviously doesn't see it that way, but when you teach kids they're inherently bad for who they are and they will never be deserving of a "heaven" and the only way they're made "worthy"/deserving is by accepting that god sacrificed/killed his only son in order for them to be with god in "heaven" and anyone who doesn't accept Jesus' sacrifice on the cross will spend all eternity suffering pain & torment in a lake of fire, how could that not be abuse? It's emotionally abusive and manipulative and I don't see any way a church could teach about the basic core principles of christianity in a non-abusive way, no matter how "nice" they may seem.
@KellyRMinter
4 ай бұрын
That's such a good idea for a topic, thank you. As for the concern, it definitely resonates, for so many people. And it is NOT an easy decision 🩵🩵
@terendril
4 ай бұрын
"I owed something to someone who did something for me, whether I wanted them to do it or not" Oh wow, holy crap, this this THIS oh my GOD
@KellyRMinter
4 ай бұрын
❤️❤️❤️
@vintagearisen
4 ай бұрын
Oh my god I went to church today because my daughter wanted to do an Easter egg hunt and the preacher told this HORRIFYING story about a Jewish child being hanged at Auschwitz, it was graphic and extremely upsetting and it was the moment the person who wrote the account stopped believing in God and I just COULD NOT BELIEVE the preacher was using this (again, VERY GRAPHIC) account of this child's slow, agonizing death as an "example" of how God is somehow with us during suffering??? Idk it was a horrible story, the worst sermon illustration I've ever heard, and I needed to talk about it because WTF Add that to the religious trauma baggage, I thought I'd found a decent, progressive, affirming church
@vintagearisen
4 ай бұрын
Also the hymn right after was "I surrender all" and it really highlighted the fact that Christianity is about constantly feeling you have to reject and "surrender" everything about yourself and you get absolutely nothing in return pretty much because he's not going to actually save you if you're, oh, idk, dying horrifically in a concentration camp but you still gotta surrender everything you sinner
@Birdsong-Annalee
4 ай бұрын
Oh Im so sorry you and your daughter went through this! I hope you find a better affirming group. @thevintagerose
@vintagearisen
4 ай бұрын
@@Birdsong-Annalee thankfully my daughter was in children's Church and didn't have to hear it
@KellyRMinter
4 ай бұрын
woah that is...I have no words. Your WTF response is 100% understandable. How that makes any sense to a fully grown adult is beyond me on so many levels. Ugh. I am so sorry ❤️❤️
@ylana4444
4 ай бұрын
My mom once made me sit through an 8 hour special sermon on Good Friday. I was about 8 yrs old. It was traumatic, exhausting I was just a little kid having to listen to an adult sermon sitting there ALL day…. I will never forget it! Yes please make the supplemental videos. This is a great topic. And btw, I did bring this up with my therapist. She just shook her head. Thank you Kelly, your topics are so relatable!
@KellyRMinter
4 ай бұрын
8 hours? As a Child? wow. I am sorry, That's just so, so much 💙💙
@pridetherapy
4 ай бұрын
Yes! So much emotional manipulation. I'm so glad to be out of Evangelical Christianity.
@KellyRMinter
4 ай бұрын
💙💙💙
@lauragadille3384
4 ай бұрын
So glad I found a trauma therapy to help get me through religion and emotional childhood trauma. I don't understand why our parents put us through that. It really messes with you as you grow up.
@KellyRMinter
4 ай бұрын
@cheeririnaldo435 wow that is quite the jump. I am sorry that's something you had to watch/experience your siblings doing 💚💚
@KellyRMinter
4 ай бұрын
Sometimes I wish I knew if parents know what they are doing when they take their kids to church, and then sometime I don't think I want to know. 🧡🧡
@elkekirkpatrick6481
4 ай бұрын
That word "obligation" - - ugh. I have seen 3 generations of my family warped through that concept. My second-generation fundamentalist mother taught me "love is sacrifice" so if we have ever been loved or anything has ever been done for us we owe that person/deity for a good long time. The older you get, the more you owe, you never get out from under except by dying. If you accept the sacrifice of Jesus on the cross then you "owe" anything and everything for the rest of your earthly life, meaning you may have to give up your dream career to go live in a jungle. The final chapter of life you owe is to give up your children and grandchildren and sell what you have to go back to move in with your last living parent because that is your Christian duty. This ball and chain belief system takes years, even decades to weed through. It's so much work!
@KellyRMinter
4 ай бұрын
Ball and chain is a GREAT way to describe it. The way you phrase the generational issue is very relatable, thanks for pointing that out! 💛💛
@samanthajones6151
4 ай бұрын
I’m terribly sad for your experience. I understand that many others have had a similar congregational experience. Thank you for putting a name to this experience.
@KellyRMinter
4 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for watching 💜💜
@westernmasswonderwoman3326
4 ай бұрын
Addiction to god is an excellent point that definitely should be talked about more. Also, when I was young and forced to go to church, I once asked the priest why it was called Good Friday when it's the day Jesus died and shouldn"t that be sad. He said "because he died for our sins"....still not getting it, I pressed him further that it didn't make sense and why should we be happy that someone died and he just said "because it's a miracle" and walked away from me! Still doesn't make sense.
@KellyRMinter
4 ай бұрын
It can be so frustrating when people won't engage because they don't know how to say they don't know. But instead of admitting that, he tried to make YOU feel foolish because you don't get what he is saying. But what he was saying didn't make sense, so of COURSE you didn't get it. ♥️♥️
@justb4116
4 ай бұрын
I dont get that part either... . Drinking blood and eating flesh, even metaphorically, is promoting cannibalism . All those neclaces with cross and Christ on it is pure idolatry (the way i understand idolatry) . Joy in someone elses suffering does not sit right with ne either (celebrating g.friday, the promise that righteous will enjoy seeing suffering of sinners after the final judgement day) I'm on a journey, if anyone can and want to share any references from bible on those topics, it would be appreciated 🙏
@thinkneothink3055
4 ай бұрын
Christianity itself is a masterpiece of emotional manipulation.
@KellyRMinter
4 ай бұрын
You are not wrong 🩷🩷
@pickledshoe
4 ай бұрын
We spend the first years being programed and the rest of our lives trying to undo that.
@KellyRMinter
4 ай бұрын
💛💛💛
@cynthiasloan3867
4 ай бұрын
Was at a Christmas parade in a small town in Florida and one of the floats (made by a local church) had a live nativity scene on the front of the flatbed and a grisly crucifixion scene at the back. I thought it was disgusting but nobody around me seemed to. Glad I left Florida.
@KellyRMinter
4 ай бұрын
I wish that sounded less "florida" than it does. 🤦♀️
@StripeyGato
4 ай бұрын
The entire congregation just clutched their pearls and inhaled sharply… THIS is awesome. Thank you so much for this video. The religious programming is thiccc. Any help you can lend in unwinding is so helpful. As an aside, you might find Dan McLellan’s (spelling?) work really interesting, he’s a bible scholar. He recently put out a podcast about the Easter story - I think it’s called Data vs Dogma. Anyway, it’s been really helpful to me, and you might like it. Keep it up! Following!
@KellyRMinter
4 ай бұрын
I have been intrigued by Dan's deconstruction journey over the years but had no idea he had a podcast. I'll check it out, thanks! 🧡🧡
@darkhorse7460
4 ай бұрын
I don't know if you've heard of Steve Hassan, he's a cool guy (in my opinion) that has expertise in cults and deprogramming, but taking away individuals free time is a tactic in many high control groups (less time to think critically, question ideologies etc.)
@KellyRMinter
2 ай бұрын
That's a great point, and a very common tactic. Just keep people busy and emotionally and mentally exhausted and there is a much lower chance of them realizing that they are even being controlled. 💛💛
@LilayM
4 ай бұрын
I was raised catholic, am atheist (since I was 13), so I got plenty of beef with the Church and its practices in general. I really disagree with your take on voluntary fasting during lent. Like, sure, I see that some interpretations of that could be harmful and diet culture-y, but choosing to forego selected things for a period of time isn't inherently toxic (within my circles, every person decides if they are cutting down on anything during lent. it's a personal decision, nobody watches you - it's just a tradition you can participate in or not. a lot of people don't. Yeah, you're "supposed to" do that - but it's not like anyone checks.). It's actually healthy, in the world of instant gratification, to decide eg. "hey, I'm not gonna drink alcohol/eat ice cream for 40 days". Could you take it too far? Sure. But hate the interpretation, not the source practice. You can have a healthy relationship with cutting down on things, or an unhealthy one. Not all approaches to the same thing are alike. No, I don't observe lent. I am cutting down on alcohol though, in general, and am super happy about that.
@KellyRMinter
4 ай бұрын
I can absolutely see what you are saying. I would like to clarify, though, that I said "growing up giving something up for lent always became an excuse to dive into diet culture" meaning, in my experience, for me, my friends, and for some family members too. I will say that I saw it a LOT when I was in youth ministry also. Intentionally pulling back in something you are doing too much of because it is not healthy for you is a very different situation. Also, personally but also as a therapist, I just see a lot of inherently problematic things come from the "hate the interpretation, not the practice" line, since it is the one so many people throw at those who have been harmed by the church. Again, these are just what I see from my perspective. I am not an expert on what you experience has been and I am glad yours has NOT been problematic like this. Thank you for watching and for engaging in what (for many) is a very complicated topic ❤️❤️
@SweetTD
4 ай бұрын
When I was maybe 3, my mom walked in to my room and saw me standing in my crib arms stretched out asked what I was doing and I said “playing Jesus dead in the cross”… 🤔🤔
@KellyRMinter
4 ай бұрын
Oh wow. How did your mom respond? I'm not sure what I would do I I walked into my child's room and they were reenacting that. ❤️❤️
@thegreenmamba100
4 ай бұрын
People love to guilt other people; our society is all about it, I know I've guilted others and been guilted, it's a power game. This is fundamentally misunderstanding Christianity, however. The whole idea of Easter is that God accepts us as though our wickedness is put on him and Jesus' righteousness is put on us when we trust Him. In Jesus we have no guilt or condemnation. If we're hearing that then we're missing the point or should listen to a different pastor. I would recommend reading "Gentle and Lowly". It's written about the heart of Christ. It's beautiful, and I promise you it won't leave you feeling guilty.
@justb4116
4 ай бұрын
Hold on a minute, something clicked.... Lemme process in real time Tl;dr: a lot of talking about parts of Genesis and bits of Luke, coming to conclusion that Father is love. And love sometimes hurts, as in (1)love can be the source of pain, and (2) pain can be a source of love simultaneously. Something along the lines of personified pain can feel love (1) and personified love can feel pain(2) ° Genesis 1:26 'and God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over fish in the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth' --plurality unclear, does God refer to holy trinity or God+human or God+other undescribed entities. For the sake of argument, lets assume Trinity ° genesis 1:27 'So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them' . God created humans with capability for free will, in the image of his own free will. That capability is sort of a foundation for sin (error, missing the target) . Humans were presented with a choice . Choosing what was forbiden excercised free will, demonstrated that human does indeed have likeness and is *ready* to learn how to use it . The second half of Genesis 1:26 talks about dominion over the world, *not the garden* . Human making his own choice signified a milestone between the garden (crib/home) and the world (kindergarten/shool) . Humans had to go out and cultivate their own garden with their own hands under guidance of Father (classes/lessons) And the rest... Is a story about those lessons, capturing behaviour of both - students and the teacher Sometimes students would grossly misunderstand (which is expected) or exercises free will to not listen (also expected, sort of comes with the territory tbh) Those are the points in story that look like punishments, but are more like demonstration of consequences (pour more water into the cup than it can hold and water will overflow. Now there is a mess on the table kind of thing) Genesis 22 (God *tempts* Abraham to rebel by asking to sacrifice Isaac, the only son of Abraham. Abraham would have done so, but God provided a lamb in Isaacs place the very last second) is intertwined with sacrifice of Jesus: Abraham's readiness to sacrifice his own p1e5h and 8100d for the Lord is balanced by Lord sending us Jesus. And people of Jerusalem did not provide a lamb in Jesus's place. Jesus himself IS the lamb that had to be sacrificed so that those who love God could understand how much God loves us: {Abraham loved his son, but loved God more; God loved Jesus, (Jesus is God, Trinity thingy) but loves us more} and those who want separation could separate, ensuring/strengthening/exclemating the gift/quality/likeness with God of free will
@KellyRMinter
3 ай бұрын
I find your wording here so interesting and I wonder if you see it and it is intentional or if I'm pointing it out to you for the first time. "If we're hearing that then we're missing the point of we should listem to a different pastor" and "our wickedness " still puts ALL of the ownership and responsibility on US and none of it on those in charge or even on God in general. Is that seriously how you see things or is that how you are phrasing it because that's how you e always heard it phrased?
@orionspero560
4 ай бұрын
There is something that I would be interested in related to the people around a person and religious troma. There's something that military and VA therapists call "moral injury" and it would be useful to be able to distinguish that religious trauma on the symptoms side. Most of these religious systems at least encourage family structures that are authoritarian and hierarchical. This structure is a breeding ground for the kind of traumatic conflict between integrity and authority that leads to moral injure. So how to tell the difference between? Post-traumatic effects of the religion directly versus post traumatic effects of hierarchical authoritarian conflicts with integrity?
@KellyRMinter
4 ай бұрын
This is a great question. I want to ask, for clarification though, for you what do you think you gain in k owing the difference between the two? 🧡🧡
@orionspero560
4 ай бұрын
@@KellyRMinter My initial thought was more almost academic.The differential diagnosis, differential esence, differential treatment that you might get in say a therapy grad class. But in that way it's more.What would be useful to people who don't?Necessarily have access.To proper therapy so that differential understanding/processing and differential tool box for want of a better word. Part of what's happening is that really need abstract before concrete to work with things. There's that claim that abstract is built from concrete.But at least for me with my autism.It just makes my head hurt sometimes to the point hypertensive crisis to try and process concrete without an abstract fame work. For me all concrete scenarios are built of abstractions not the other way around.
@justb4116
4 ай бұрын
@orionspero560, you raised a very good question indeed. I hope i understood it as you have intended, if not - please correct me Tried thinking about the moral injuries from integrity{1} being in conflict with authorities{2}, hierarchies{3}, and religions{4} and realised that the {2-4} in this context, are almost the same. Got into some sort of mind loop and couldn't extract substantial difference. Sorry 'bout that :/ The only option (that I currently see) to introduce deviation between {2-4} would be to introduce additional concept paralel to religion - faith{5} But {5} is subjective. On the other hand, subjectivity ties in with integrity. I don't know how much of use this could be for you, but.... Do you differentiate between religion and faith?
@orionspero560
4 ай бұрын
@@justb4116 It's conflict with authority in hierarch. It's not a list. Most traditionally, military command authorities and other user force organization command hierarchies. But since Fundy culture pushes families into a structure that is hierarchical and authoritarian.You have the same pressures in such a family structure. End correction on that paragraph. There are 3 differential diagnosis fragments.I have figured out.(1) The religious trauma syndrome trauma centers around what was done TO a person to perpetuate the religion and our culture. The moral injury the centers around what the authority structure and authorities got the patient to DO. Since a military context is the default here, it's often referred to as what orders the patient followed that they shouldn't have. (2) If the patient (a) can easily operate in an environment that is theologically and ritually very similar, and (b) is on a hair triger for any influence of the specific ( in a fundy setting this is typically the father) authority figures around the trauma ( and authority figurearth generally) that indicates moral injury. By contrast , for religious tromicing from you would look for (a) reactivity to theological and original similarities and (b) relative ease with reintegration with individuals at least if they also have left the spiritual system. (3) In moral terms, religious trauma is associated with a dislocation or destruction of a moral foundation and a need and or search for a replacement. Moral injury is characterized by an intact moral system, with a profound sense of guilt vulnerability to influence and moral hostility being associated with authority and/or status. So moral injury patients typically have a paranoia derived trauma response to anyone giving orders under any circumstances.
@justb4116
4 ай бұрын
Oh, i see.. Thank you for expanding I am operating from the assumption that religion IS (just another branch of) hierarchical authoritarianism (in general as a concept) and that way 'Post-traumatic effects of the religion directly versus post traumatic effects of hierarchical authoritarian conflicts with integrity?' is the same question in essence because: '(1) The religious trauma syndrome trauma centers around what was done TO a person to perpetuate the religion and our culture. The moral injury the centers around what the authority structure and authorities /*got*/ the patient to DO. Since a military context is the default here, it's often referred to as what orders the patient followed that they shouldn't have.' Getting a person to do something agains persons moral code is the same (or even more saturated) as doing something to the person against person's moral code. It's like manhandling someone to punch themselves while asking 'why are you hurting yourself?', or secretly injecting poison (guilt) in a meal and when a person gets ill claiming that person is pretending (inversion)
@carolebingham7262
3 ай бұрын
hi Kelly I saw something on line today that was Christian and it talked about pushing the boat out on having a great birthday receiving great presents and then it said not to go overboard at a wedding because one of them may need to re pp ent of sin that hasn't been dealt with what's all this about please
@sarah-lee-cupkakes
4 ай бұрын
Ok can you elaborate on the "addiction piece" you mentioned? I'm tired of Christians moralizing "addiction," whether they are actually referring to substance use/abuse/misuse/dependency, as if those are all the same thing that point to a spiritual failure. Thanks! 😊
@KellyRMinter
4 ай бұрын
I will definitely put it on the list! Thanks for watching! 🩷🩷
@valerielinares2068
4 ай бұрын
Maybe I'm wrong, but it sounds like you grew up Catholic. I only guess Catholic because it's the only religion I know that observes lent. Though, I acknowledge it's possible that other religions may also observe lent. Whether you actually did grow up Catholic, I don't know. But, I personally know former Catholics who've discussed how guilt-tripping was a huge part of the church protocol. As a woman of faith who did not grow up Catholic, nor am I Catholic now, it makes me sad because there is a way to know God (Yahweh) through Jesus (Yeshua), that is not built on constant guilt poured on by those in leadership positions, but built on the notion of redemption through His work on the cross. And that those who accept His free gift of redemption serve him and obey Him - but done out of love and appreciation for what He did, not out of guilt.
@KellyRMinter
3 ай бұрын
I can totally understand why you'd think I grew up Catholic, based on what you've said here. But I'm reality I didn't. There are actually quite a few mainline denominations that practice lent. The use of guilt as a tool to keep people in line is definitely connected to the Catholic church in a generator handed way, but in reality there are many denominations that do this. It shows in a lot of the comments left on this and many other religious focused videos on this channel. I'm glad it wasn't your experience, though 💚💚
@valerielinares2068
3 ай бұрын
@@KellyRMinter huh, I did not know lent was not just a catholic thing. Interesting. Yes, sadly, I've heard of many denominations that committed spiritual abuse, whether they acknowledge or or not. It's so sad because that's not Yahweh's heart. Yahweh's heart is far from those who claim to know Him yet twist His Word out of context in order to attempt to control others as it only pushes people further from Him rather than closer to Him. Spiritual abuse was and is not His design or plan. I pray that He heals the victims of spiritual abuse.
@VashtiPerry
4 ай бұрын
3:36 exhausted me. Made it so hard to make decisions without guilt.
@KellyRMinter
4 ай бұрын
🩷🩷
@WishfulThinkingArt
4 ай бұрын
Goodness, I must have gone to a more progressive church or something, because I remember Easter being a time of celebration, and not a time to recount the horrors of the Passion. I remember our pastor saying to us, “Yes, these awful things happened to Jesus, and the very people that once worshipped him turned on him, but that is not something that you guys have to worry about. That was an event from long, long ago, and we can recognize the horrors while celebrating the triumph of Christ’s resurrection.” I can certainly see how some churches take it too far, and it is wild that they think children should see such horrific imagery, but it makes me glad my church let us know that we should not feel guilty about what happened, and that we should rejoice that love triumphed in the end.
@KellyRMinter
3 ай бұрын
I'm glad that you found the church in what would seem to be the minority 💜💜
@Marysservant
4 ай бұрын
What the actual title of your video...Hatred of Christian Faiths. You don't understand Christianity and many commenting here don't either. Im not hating. Yes, everyone sins (does wrong) including ministers. As Jesus, who is God, forgives us, we need to forgive others. Carrying hate, blame, feelings of revenge damages a person internally. Jesus came to show us love and mercy no matter what we have done. (We need to ask i.e. confession) so we are not internally hurt and despair. Jesus is God and God is love. ❤️ My hope is that you and others watching will forgive the people who hurt you. Forgiveness is the message of Christianity. Forgive and unload your burden. Read about your particular church/faith. Know the facts not just the failures. Godspeed ❤
@KellyRMinter
4 ай бұрын
Hi there! I actually have a degree from a bible college AND worked in churches for almost 20 years. I'm happy that your experience doesn't look like the ones reflected here. That doesn't mean these people didn't experience them. No one here is going to tell you that you didn't have a good experience with faith, because we didn't experience what you did. See how that works? Not everyone is Christian. Not everyone WANTS or NEEDS to be Christian. Your comment came across as hateful to me, but since you said "I'm not hating" I'll take you at your word. I am not hating either. I don't hate Christians or Christianity. I hate the harm people and churches have done in the name of something they think they feel is right for them, so they insist is right for everyone. 🤷♀️
@Marysservant
4 ай бұрын
@KellyRMinter I am a Catholic who has been severely hurt by anti Catholics. I've had my life torn from me. I have had enough of hate. I know that those who hurt me don't understand/have issues of their own. We are living in end TIMES. The forces of evil are very strong, which is why , you, me and others have had bad things happen to us. But a person can forgive and move on, which helps heal oneself. You see there is evil everywhere, even in some places of worship/ organizations of worship. There have been sexual predators arrested in every profession. Evil is everywhere. Be the good. Be positive. Be loving. Be forgiving. ❤️
@KellyRMinter
4 ай бұрын
I am really really glad that you have come to that place in your life. At the same time, I find it so interesting that you feel the need to judge HOW others do the same. I'm a therapist. I walk people through their religious trauma daily. I make videos like this because I have #1 the information, having been there and done the work myself and #2 the education behind it to put words to people's experiences. Have you read the majority of the other comments here or on any other religious trauma video on my channel? These videos aren't about me. It's about helping people see and make sense of what happened to them so that they can heal and move forward with their lives. I get that this process maybe doesn't look like what yours did, but as someone who did their healing, I find it really interesting that you can't see the healing that is happening for other people through the presentation of these facts.
@HappyChicken223
4 ай бұрын
Girl. You got the how diet thing wrong
@KellyRMinter
4 ай бұрын
I'm not sure I understand what you mean?
@HappyChicken223
4 ай бұрын
@@KellyRMinter girl I don’t understand the whole diet culture thing. You give us something. It doesn’t have to be food. I can be anything. Your choice
@KellyRMinter
4 ай бұрын
Right, but for a 10-15 year old teen who is trying to fit an ideal and on the verge of disordered eating, a culturally and family accepted way of giving up a certain type of food (sweets, carbs, snacking btwn meals, eating in the middle of the day) gives them "permission" to fall deeper into that way of thinking. And no one questions it because for those 40 days anyhow it is sanctioned by the church and their family. I saw it happen over and over and over again for a lot of year.
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