$3500 for this piece of crap? For that I can get a real turbo, custom piping, and a tune. GTFO
@cr4zyw3ld3r
4 жыл бұрын
except this system now puts out 8psi at an instant. Weighs less than a typical turbo setup is really meant to augment the car's low end or a smaller displacement engine. Considering its $3800 and you can use this to boost while the main turbo does't yet have enough exhaust pressure to spool this is a perfect solution. Far cheaper to implement than a variable vane setup. Less weight and complexity than sequential or TT setups too.
@hellcat1988
4 жыл бұрын
@@cr4zyw3ld3r 8psi will drop pretty dam quick once the throttle blade opens and the engine airflow increases. If that thing could increase it's airflow as the demand increased while maintaining pressure, then it might actually be worth it. I HIGHLY doubt it can. If they want to even attempt to con people who know anything about how a turbo works, they're gonna have to step up their video "testing" quite a bit.
@stonent
4 жыл бұрын
You could get a full blower for about that much.
@cr4zyw3ld3r
4 жыл бұрын
@@stonent not for my car and not in California. unless you can do the fab work yourself and/or aren't using shit parts.
@edbuckley1670
4 жыл бұрын
What a stupid idea you would have to be an idiot to believe this even works
@gyffjogofl7676
4 жыл бұрын
I watched the Cleetus McFarland video on Torqamp. Its worth watching.
@localvic
3 жыл бұрын
They installed 2 electric turbo's and made 5-6psi
@sync9999
3 жыл бұрын
@@localvic it's still cool that in just 2 or 3 years, the tech has come a long way. I bet in a few more years these will become more and more common, the only real problem is power supply.
@indridcold8433
5 жыл бұрын
The ebay, "supercharger," makes a great bilge pump. I replaced my failed bilge pump with one. They are already water sealed. I went all last summer with the homemade bilge pump. This summer, it has still been doing good.
@roderickconstantino5354
5 жыл бұрын
now i can really clean the dirt out of my computer and keyboard awesome!
@VarnHomestead
6 жыл бұрын
for 3k? I can get a full piecemeal turbo kit from ebay for that including injectors and piping with a much larger PSI....
@indridcold8433
5 жыл бұрын
That is my problem with it as well. Why is it so much when you can get a full turbo kit for a little bit less? I really do not see why anybody would buy it.
@InsanelyWicked1
6 жыл бұрын
Hell yeah with 1 psi I can turn a Honda into a Lambo
@juansolo1617
5 жыл бұрын
Funny how most DOHC Civics make more power than a Mustang GT. Always gotta bust on Hondas because you're insecure about domestic crap.
@adeedaas8966
5 жыл бұрын
Bat b8 is bad
@rickytrevino8281
4 жыл бұрын
@@juansolo1617 Found the insecure sensitive honda owner, as a civic owner I can honestly say take a joke and stop being such a snowflake
@juansolo1617
4 жыл бұрын
@@rickytrevino8281 I don't have a Civic. I have a Pilot and a Prelude.
@rickytrevino8281
4 жыл бұрын
@@juansolo1617 I never said you had a civic. If you stopped raging so much maybe you could think clearly enough to read my comment correctly
@reinhardtmaritz7654
4 жыл бұрын
Rule number 1 - when making an ad never compare your product to an eBay product.
@stevewyatt3339
5 жыл бұрын
if used to blow out birthday candles, it would work like a fucking boss
@olie854
6 жыл бұрын
a bit confused, this 173g/s produces at an estimate 300CFM, which is an estimated enough air to produce 430hp, but that's at 1psi over ambient. that's on an engine of roughly 4ltrs (4000cc) turning at 5000 rpm. with some internal engine losses say 400hp at the flywheel. so this would really only be suitable on an engine of say 2 ltrs, and how much boost would it make, there simply isn't anywhere enough data, would need to see a full pressure map like a real turbo, at several flow rates and resulting boost pressures. and how much power/torque does the electric motor have, it may not have enough torque to spin the compressor wheel much at all with higher backpressure, it may only have enough torque to over come over only a few psi restriction (boost) and thus would be pointless. its an interesting development, but quoting a no load/max flow data is kind of irrelevant, unless to show the biggest possible engine you could fit this too before it becomes itself a restriction.
@TorqAmp
6 жыл бұрын
You're right! This video shows only the difference between max flow of an eBay supercharger and the TorqAmp. For a boost/mass flow graph you can take a look at our website. torqamp.com/product-overview---specifications/ This version is designed for 1.8 till 3 liter engines and we are working on a larger version ;). Another option is to use 2x this version on larger engines ;)
@olie854
6 жыл бұрын
to be fair, all the info is there, but by your own calculations, a max of 5.8 psi boost, i kind of expected more. got a long way to go to catch up with engine driven or exhaust driven superchargers
@TorqAmp
6 жыл бұрын
We think you should see this as a different product that can be used as alternative of twin turbo setup (see the Subaru Forester on our Facebook/website) Another benefit is much easier to install and uninstall, no problems with exhaust manifolds etc.
@vincentleatham8291
5 жыл бұрын
what if u wanted this without tapping into your exhaust 5.8 lbs of boost isnt bad for atv application????
@djsetterstrom5085
6 жыл бұрын
1 psi lol?
@TorqAmp
6 жыл бұрын
Yes but at low massflow you get more boost, check the performance map at torqamp.com/product-overview---specifications/
@Fireblaze15
6 жыл бұрын
TorqAmp it's compressing air through a real turbo but doesn't cool down air from the outside. That's the basics of it from what it seems.
@djsetterstrom5085
6 жыл бұрын
so 5psi? lol?
@andrewwright.
6 жыл бұрын
Parthanon intercooler would cool the temps. I'd like to see 20psi and see how that wheel holds up. Looks to me like it won't go near 15psi let alone 20. Please prove me wrong. Tuning this will be the killer....no support means it's dead in the water....most tuner's wouldn't touch a car with this attached
@stevenwarne
6 жыл бұрын
Another ebay shit product....
@spevomax2
2 жыл бұрын
There are a few types of people that I admire for their brave hearts and crazy minds, those are rally drivers, stunt people and people who pay 2500 euros for electric turbo which basically have no warranty what so ever.
@JSROOKS
3 жыл бұрын
This video does not tell us what the engine-intake flow rate is, unless I missed it. The airflow from the fans has got to be against some kind of resistance, or you'll never develop any boost (extra) pressure at all, and it only makes sense to measure it at some reasonable acceleration airflow of perhaps that at 2000-4500 rpm. Just saying...
@TorqAmp
3 жыл бұрын
Yes you're right. The max flow of 173g/s in the video is more than a 2L engine will do at high rpms. So therefore such engine will limit the flow and pressure is build up. This is possible due to the shape of this type of compressor. The rule of thumb is 8g/s of air for a 1L engine at 1000rpm. So a 2L engine at 6000rpm is doing 8*2*6= 96g/s when naturally aspirated. The eBay version is more like a fan. The fan design is not able to build up pressure and therefore will not create any gains in a car.
@localvic
3 жыл бұрын
There are knock offs made in China for $500 and can be found cheaper if ordered direct. Not by any means for racing applications but it's something that could help a small cylinder engine have a bit more pep for daily spiritual driving while keeping the vehicle as stock as possible with minimal parts to install.
@TorqAmp
3 жыл бұрын
We think there is one system that can probably do something for really small engines. We never tested this one ourselves so we cannot guarantee that this is true. Cleetus tested that on a large engine. kzitem.info/news/bejne/qIGBqZWNcaWIjJg All the other (cheaper) products don't work simply because they use another compressor type which is not suitable to create usable pressure. Based on science you need this pressure to increase engine performance. Also the power required to create such pressure is significant.
@Boycott_Wendys
Жыл бұрын
I'd love to see a pair of these in action
@tommycortez_
4 жыл бұрын
You guys need to update this video , it is very confusing for the average thinker. I think what you are saying is that your electric turbo on a smaller engine like a 2.0 will make about 5lbs of boost throughout the rpm range. Bigger engines will need a bigger electric turbo. You have to make it easy for people to understand . I’ll wait until you guys come out with a bigger single electric turbo that I can install on my Acura nsx 3.0 six cylinder , I need about 6-9 psi throughoutrhe rpm range.
@TorqAmp
4 жыл бұрын
You're right. We want to show that we can flow enough air for such engines and that a small eBay fan will not work. A lower air mass flow will result in pressure build up but that is not shown in this video. Therefore the shown pressures are confusing for most people. When you look at a normal compressor map of a turbo you will also see zero pressure at high air mass flow but that is indeed not how people are interpreting this video. We have another video where we compare the Phantom supercharger with the TorqAmp. This is a more representative video. Check out here kzitem.info/news/bejne/2oal2YlsjoiZdZg
@ColdVsIce
4 жыл бұрын
Nice car bro
@civicguy562
6 жыл бұрын
$500 eBay turbo kit which will give you at least 10 psi or more
@juansolo1617
5 жыл бұрын
Less costly, more psi, but it'll be a sleeve bearing turbo, spool slowly and make a lot of heat
@indridcold8433
5 жыл бұрын
Go to a salvage yard and salvage a complete turbo system for about 1/4 of that.
@Hoonmaro
4 жыл бұрын
@@juansolo1617 and your point is? It's not a fucking hair dryer turned on high for 3 grand lol 1psi of boost is good for maaaaaaaaybe 2 horsepower and that's a stretch this thing is garbage and I guarantee they'll never sell a single one
@fysherkennedy5897
5 жыл бұрын
For $60 you can buy a leaf blower and get more bang for your buck 😂😂
@TorqAmp
5 жыл бұрын
You can send one and we will do the comparison
@mcanzy
4 жыл бұрын
Lord cloud Agre. Has been tested by cletu! And all mighty mods!!
@troyg3831
4 жыл бұрын
yeah torque amps make actual power. A leaf blower won't. Cleetus did a video on these. It's not really cost effective but it does work.
@troyg3831
4 жыл бұрын
@@TorqAmp I have seen Cleetus' video and I know they actually work. My biggest problem is that you didn't have any ECU integration. This needs to be variable with throttle position and/or RPM to really be useful. The button pushing thing just isn't practical.
@TorqAmp
4 жыл бұрын
@@troyg3831 Yes indeed, the button is the most simple option. For a more integrated system you could connect it to your OpenECU. When this is not possible you could use our TORQAMP ControlBox. Check: torqamp.com/control-box/
@Itsnotmeok01
6 жыл бұрын
Any actual dyno proof of this, like natural verse boost (1psi)?
@bravofoxtrot4277
6 жыл бұрын
Eldwardo Muchachos yes, dyno test results are -10 hp and -$100.00.
@Itsnotmeok01
6 жыл бұрын
BravoFoxtrot ok show video? Or link to it please?
@TorqAmp
6 жыл бұрын
The boost at maximum mass flow is low (so 1psi) and at lower air mass flow the boost is higher (~6psi). You can check the following video with boost and dyno results of a 2 liter engine kzitem.info/news/bejne/t5eLq6urh2V9q6Q
@Itsnotmeok01
6 жыл бұрын
TorqAmp so where's the before dyno pull on naturally aspirated verse the so called boost, that video still doesn't prove anything. Anyone could've made that video and made that stuff up too. Let's see the dyno pull with bonnet up and showing the installation and everything, if it's that good?
@TorqAmp
6 жыл бұрын
We will try to make a more detailed video on our next car. Please take a look at our Facebook page for recent dyno run of Subaru Forester STI, here we clearly filled a gap that is missing by a lot of cars that are equipped with a larger turbo, the large benefit here is also much easier installation than twin turbo. facebook.com/torqamp
Jesus I have server fans that push more CFM than those ebay POS'. Sadly, TorqAmp you arrived on-scene 5-years too early and 36v over what would make the system a success. With recent improvements in battery tech, in addition to other solid systems like the 12v one made by Duryea, you almost made it.
@TorqAmp
4 ай бұрын
We are still there and we have the 48V system which is charged by the regular 12V system. It's plug 'n play go get more air in your engine!
@mcf3778
6 жыл бұрын
Wow.... 1psi for $3,300.... Thats like $300/hp what a deal! Sign me up now!
@indridcold8433
5 жыл бұрын
That is my biggest problem with this system. You can get a full turbo system with all that is necessary for slightly less than that. I see no reason to buy this at all for that price. If you go to a salvage yard and salvage a turbo out of a car, it will cost a lot less than this also.
@TheBiigBadWolf
6 жыл бұрын
Im sorry but I wanted this for my car got ready to order it but when I saw the price..... Second, send out couple free kits to youtubers, “ hey put this on your car tell me what you think, review my item on youtube.” Eventually someone is going to do the before and after and prove to people it works because I’ll be damned if i pay 3k for an item that hasn’t been proven to work yet & i dont think anybody else wont do it either unless their rich.
@TR-sg9jc
4 жыл бұрын
He just proved in this video it doesnt work fuckwit
@joachimdartson7313
5 жыл бұрын
You know that's BS this thing has one speed and when you take engine vaccum into account it runs out of volume instantly when the motor is revved.
@TorqAmp
5 жыл бұрын
Yes this is indeed the case for the eBay supercharger.
@GideonWallace
4 жыл бұрын
Very excited what other products this company will put out, prove them wrong guys.
@TorqAmp
4 жыл бұрын
Keep an eye on us 😉. We have great test facilities and therefore also testing other products that are to good to be true to figure out if these are working or not. We already received some products. It will be all combustion related.
@williegohard1368
Жыл бұрын
I have a 2019 Nissan frontier 2.5 4 cylinder I was looking to do something like this because my engine is not that quick
@TorqAmp
Жыл бұрын
So it's a naturally aspirated engine?
@TAOSEELE
5 жыл бұрын
You need at least 5psi to measure some significant difference on power
@TorqAmp
5 жыл бұрын
The TorqAmp is doing up to 6psi. It is depending on the mass flow what pressure you achieve, this is the same for a turbocharger or Supercharger. The test in this video shows only the maximum air mass flow. Via the link you could find the compressor map. For example a 2 liter engine will gain around 40% more low end torque. torqamp.com/torqamp-kit/
@TAOSEELE
5 жыл бұрын
@@TorqAmp so this is crowd funding? It's not possible to buy an e-turbo right now? Do you have a Money-back guarantee?
@TorqAmp
5 жыл бұрын
Indeed it is crowdfunding. We did a smaller production batch in the past. Now we want to produce at least 50 units. It is not possible to buy a unit right now because the earlier batch is sold out. When you pledge a TorqAmp within the Kickstarter campaign we have to reach the 130.000euro goal to really get the money from Kickstarter. When we don't reach the goal of 130.000euro within the 60 days the campaign is online you get your money back. When you pledge a TorqAmp and change your mind within this 60 days the campaign is online you can also cancel the order.
@D3AThCAl2DS
4 жыл бұрын
Watching Gale Banks great old guy btw, he would get a kick at this once he figured the conversion this is still less than atmospheric pressure that goes in an engine
@TorqAmp
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, we will give it a try ;)
@f.mbarnabythelatest6068
4 жыл бұрын
a video showing how bad your product doesnt "blow"😂😂 genius.
@TorqAmp
4 жыл бұрын
This video only shows the maximum flow performance because the eBay one is not able to build up any pressure, even not at low massflow. Please check the compressor map of the TorqAmp which shows a really good performance. torqamp.com/wp-content/uploads/elementor/thumbs/presure-ratio-oeagfceyoyncr1ghpy646ztdp3jm1qvdt9vchrcri8.png
@proaudiohd
5 жыл бұрын
Even 1PSI against a flowing load is an improvement over stock. This will make some power, especially on smaller engines at lower RPM. The boost level is not some sort of flaw with the product, it's a limitation of the electric power available. You need 15,000 watts to make 14lbs of boost. That's 1200 AMPS at 12V which you're not going to get off a car's electrical system. Even if you could afford to buy and fabricate such a system, it would be far heavier and more complex than a standard turbo or supercharger.
@TorqAmp
5 жыл бұрын
Exactly. We use a 48V system that will be charged from the 12V system. This can provide 5kW of power. At lower air mass flow you get a significant higher boost. This video shows only a low pressure at maximum air flow.
@orlandojohnson5742
2 жыл бұрын
Hmm if a naturally aspirated engine pulls in a certain CFM at a certain RPM…… the turbo/supercharger has to push more air into the intake to make a difference!!! If that’s not being done it’s more of a restriction than an adder/boost!! At some point I’m guessing the RPM of the engine is more than the electric boost can supply! It’s probably why they demonstrate a short dyno pull!?!?!?! Have y’all noticed that yet!? Belt drive & turbo exhaust drive increases with the engine RPM’s….. so it’s adding boost longer!!!!
@TorqAmp
2 жыл бұрын
It's indeed the case that you have to add more air under pressure than the naturally aspirated engine will breath with throttle valve completely open to increase performance. So the compressor map is on our website. You can check several dyno videos on our channel. You will see the TorqAmp can deliver enough air to increase the performance over the whole rpm range of engines up to 3L.
@geraldzuckier
3 жыл бұрын
Short but sweet
@jeremylakenes6859
5 жыл бұрын
This video crushed electric turbo sales....
@andrewjs2989
6 жыл бұрын
3 liter engine spinning at 6000 rpm sucks approximately 11 kg of air 173g/s equals 10.38 kg/min so on 3 liter engine it may help in low end RPM only, and in 2 liter engine, which needs approx. 7.35 liters of air at 6000 rpm, it may do some boost.
@TorqAmp
6 жыл бұрын
Andrew Js These numbers look realistic, the liters of air for the 2 liter should be kg/s? You can see in the graph on our website the boost as function of mass flow. Most of the time people drive in the lower engine speed region therefore still nice to have a TorqAmp on a 3L engine. We did a Nissan 350z with 3.5L engine, the results are on Facebook. It shows as expected a little bit of limitation above 5200rpm.
@andrewjs2989
6 жыл бұрын
Sorry, yes, i meant 7,35 kg/s
@cheetahgaming3642
5 жыл бұрын
A step in the right direction. You could probably feel it with an ecu tune or chip
@TorqAmp
5 жыл бұрын
Yes, a 2 liter naturally aspirated will gain ~40% torque and ~25% more horsepower.
@almazshodiev0607
3 жыл бұрын
@@TorqAmp а можно взять эту Компрессор
@AMXM-do5kw
4 жыл бұрын
The only good thing I can think about this e-supercharger in comparison to other types of supercharger and turbocharger is e-supercharger eliminates turbo lag. This will be future turbocharger because e-turbocharger does not rely on engine to produce force. Basically u can add how much power u want just by increasing the current and electric motor size. Drag race anyone?
@TorqAmp
4 жыл бұрын
Yes indeed it has no turbo lag. It is also much easier to implement because it doesn't require the exhaust part, water cooling and oil.
@robshighlights6431
4 жыл бұрын
Anything for 5.7 liter charger?
@jeffsenecal4168
2 жыл бұрын
Y R U guys charging $3K USD for a kit? really? i would understand $1500 or even $2K but for that pricing UR going to get FAR more gains (and a better noise) out of a Supercharger ($4k) or Turbo set up (5k$).... What gives??
@TorqAmp
2 жыл бұрын
It's impossible to make it cheaper. An electric supercharger exist of much more high tech parts which are all expensive components. A regular turbocharger exist of some simple metal parts which are produced in high quantities. We understand there are products that can provide more performance for a lower price. Hereby you don't count the labor hours. Installing a TorqAmp is in general much easier than a turbo kit. There are also a lot cars for which no turbo kit exist, this requires a lot of custom work resulting in high prices. Also the TorqAmp is easy to remove which makes it perfect for classic car owners to keep their car more original. So we don't want to compete with the cheap Honda Civic turbo kits but with other segments in the market.
@jeffsenecal4168
2 жыл бұрын
@@TorqAmp Thank you for the reply. Although i was harsh with my comment, that was a gr8 answer. Keep on doing what your doing and maybee one day the costs will become more affordable for everone. :)
@TorqAmp
2 жыл бұрын
@@jeffsenecal4168 thank for your reply!
@andiajia3015
2 жыл бұрын
Saya from Indo..dari liat durasi yang pendek sekali waktu demo nya..saya masih blom pokus hasil demo nya..bisa kah durasi demo nya LBH detil lagi...?
@TorqAmp
2 жыл бұрын
You can check our KZitem channel and website for more video's and dyno results
@obtrunco
5 жыл бұрын
Can't do anything with less than 6 psi.
@mikebenz2448
3 жыл бұрын
With 3k i can get stage 2 turbo
@4g63gen1
5 жыл бұрын
A pound of boost is roughly 10whp. If you can add a separate lipo power supply and a larger electric brushless motor... Big boost is possible, and someone should develop it.
@TorqAmp
5 жыл бұрын
Inside the TorqAmp powerbox is a battery that can deliver 5kW of electric power. The TorqAmp can do up to 6psi of boost. This is a max massflow test. For example a 2 liter engine will not reach such massflow with full throttle at high rpms. So we developed that ;)
@JaybizFpv
5 жыл бұрын
Lol only upgrade of this is its brushless. Now if you raise the kv of the motor amd add a few more amps from the esc you can maybe get more boost but dont expect the life of the motor to be very long. 1psi isnt anything but that's at free air so what's it create when hooked up to a limiting factor like a engine? Does it create boost and at what cfm? That's what is going to sell me. Getting a turbo to spin at 100krpm electrically is easy. Making it worth the money is another story
@TorqAmp
5 жыл бұрын
We think we made something unique. This movie only shows a simple comparison on max air flow becuase the eBay charger is not able to create useful boost. The TorqAmp can do up to 6psi so torque gains above 40% are realistic. Check the link for the boost massflow map. Is this massflow interesting for car engines? Yes it is! Check out our other movies with boost graphs and dyno runs or find these on our website. torqamp.com/product-overview---specifications/
@meyawabdulaziz3863
4 жыл бұрын
okay ...now if we connect these to feed an a "running engine" the pressure will drop entirely for sure ...because of the vacuum condition the engine makes ...i dont think this engine can compress a 2L to 3.5L engine while running
@TorqAmp
4 жыл бұрын
Yes it will compress the air of such engines, check on www.torqamp.com There are dyno graphs of 2 liter engines and 3.5L engine. Or check the other videos in our channel.
@gasturbine101
5 жыл бұрын
Very disappointing :-( What is the best on the market and state-of-the-art?
@AppleBag1000
6 жыл бұрын
i could boost my weed eater with that
@indridcold8433
5 жыл бұрын
Just use the leaf blower to boast the weed eater.
@Alexxx95_H
5 жыл бұрын
@TorqAmp How much current it draws from the battery? Does it add power to the charger proportionally to the trottle input? For example: 40% trottle --> 40% power on the charger or switches on just above 50% of trottle and blows at full speed?
@TorqAmp
5 жыл бұрын
This is flexible. The TorqAmp speed can be varied from standstill to max speed depending on the input signal (0-5V signal). The easiest solution is to use our open-source control box. More details could be found on our website. The max amps it draws is around 100A of the internal TorqAmp battery (48V) and max around 50A on the 12V system to charge this TorqAmp battery.
@bryantmatthews93
5 жыл бұрын
Folks electric turbos are going to be a new thing watch and see
@Joebauers2505
5 жыл бұрын
They do make real electric superchargers, but to make them work is astronomical in the hardware needed
@bigfoodie9774
5 жыл бұрын
Thomas knight esc was awhile ago. People made power with them. The newer battery technology and the newer brushless engine tech should make these alot more efficient
@indridcold8433
5 жыл бұрын
Combine that with the water injector from the 1980s and we have a winning team!
@cr4zyw3ld3r
4 жыл бұрын
@@indridcold8433 this system with a methanol injection is a win win.
@edbuckley1670
4 жыл бұрын
@@cr4zyw3ld3r methanol injection is to reduce Heat this thing does not even compress air enough to build Heat that is another way you know this is horseshit. I'm sure this would lose its one pound of boost if you try to force air through an intercooler. Using an electric motor to drive a car is a much better idea than using an electric motor to compress air to feed through an internal combustion engine.
@marcoswwong1
3 жыл бұрын
Only 1 psi?
@TorqAmp
3 жыл бұрын
Pressure is higher at low air mass flow. The pressure goes up to 6psi. You can check the compressor map at our website www.torqamp.com
@srtsrt2941
4 жыл бұрын
Hi, I would like one of it, how much it cost
@TorqAmp
4 жыл бұрын
Price is 2273euro excluding tax and excluding shipping
@josepeixoto3384
3 жыл бұрын
@@TorqAmp 2273 euros/dollars? for real, or is that a joke or a typo ? edit: i just saw it is a 5 KW motor (400 Amps + ??!!! ); that is no typo then.
@TorqAmp
3 жыл бұрын
@@josepeixoto3384 it's based on an internal 48V battery so around 100A max. Please check the videos on our channel with dyno tests for a good impression what is possible
@Jpilgrim30
4 жыл бұрын
That’s a ridiculous price for a brushless hobby motor, a speed controller, and the cold side of a turbo! For that price I could build one myself with an even larger/better motor but with the amount of power it would take yours need a huge car audio style electrical system to even use it for extended periods.
@TorqAmp
4 жыл бұрын
Yes so this system is also a 48V battery pack and special charger, safety features etc.
@lowerthetone
4 жыл бұрын
Doesn't it say 1PSI of boost at 14 Volts? Surely it can take more than 14v.... put a truck battery on both and retest!
@TorqAmp
4 жыл бұрын
The information in this video is a bit limited and I will explain what you see. The TorqAmp has an internal 48V battery that is charged from the 12V (in this case 14V) input. When boosting the 12V is not loaded to have a minimum load on the alternator/crankshaft during accelerations. The power of the TORQAMP is around 5kW. This video only shows the huge difference in air mass flow at maximum flow. Boost works a bit different and requires an obstruction such as an engine. When the engine requires a small massflow the compressor will build up boost and therefore increases massflow with the boost. This is the same for turbochargers. So the 1psi is not really important in this video. The TorqAmp can do up to 6psi.
@lowerthetone
4 жыл бұрын
@@TorqAmp I have been researching it thoroughly and will be buying a unit. I have seen no shortage of people saying that "a 12v starter battery isn't enough to compress air" but very few commented on the fact that the possibilities are endless. we have plenty of capable battery designs which are ideal for spinning a compressor! Thank you for commercialising it! You have saved me from going into my garage to experiment!
@TorqAmp
4 жыл бұрын
@@lowerthetone thanks! Good to hear. Let us know if you have any questions.
@OfficialSNIxn
6 жыл бұрын
1psi of boost? Lmao. That's what my turbo makes on idle.
@blackturbine
5 жыл бұрын
I can confirm this statement 👌
@indridcold8433
5 жыл бұрын
I bet you paid about the same amount for the real turbo system, or slightly less. I see no reason why anybody would buy this when you can get full turbo systems for a little less.
@localenterprisebroadcastin5971
4 жыл бұрын
Wow it sounds and performs like a vacuum cleaner 👍 you may want to go back to the drawing board, my cordless shop vac pushes more air 🤷🏼♂️
@TorqAmp
4 жыл бұрын
We did a lot of research on cordless vacuum cleaners for a huge Dutch television program (no joke). You can find the video here radar.avrotros.nl/uitzendingen/gemist/item/draadloze-stofzuiger-vervanger-of-veredelde-kruimeldief/ These vacuum cleaners are sucking significantly less air 😉
@localenterprisebroadcastin5971
4 жыл бұрын
TorqAmp try a dewalt 👍 😂 I’m just pulling your chain...I hope this technology keeps getting developed
@EPTRotorsports
Жыл бұрын
The TA is 2500.....is 1 psi worth that?
@TorqAmp
Жыл бұрын
It's doing higher boost at lower airflow. So around 6psi max. You can check the Honda Prelude video for a graph showing pressure depending on engine rpm
@EPTRotorsports
Жыл бұрын
It's still a bit to expensive for what it is.
@TorqAmp
Жыл бұрын
@@EPTRotorsports the product is much more expensive to make than a regular turbocharger because we need much more high tech components.
@srhwtethwtrhg1296
7 ай бұрын
Реально работающие устройства подобной конструкции не распространяются открытым способом (в магазинах), мало того имеется некоторый конкурс на их приобретение, ну а их ценность оценивается в несколько раз более, так как это уже совсем не шуточки! kzitem.info/news/bejne/qGuvt3qgimuqhIY - разгон kzitem.info/news/bejne/26WGra6EkJdmeWU - общий вид
@iGThomas
4 жыл бұрын
But what’s the air temperature?
@TorqAmp
4 жыл бұрын
You can find the air temperature increase here: torqamp.com/torqamp-kit/
@bryanroupe8646
5 жыл бұрын
You want $3000 for a unit that makes 1.0psi and will literally make no difference in performance. You can buy a small Novi supercharge that will make 10psi for less than that. Or a cheap turbo kit that can make 30psi.
@TorqAmp
5 жыл бұрын
We do up to 6psi but at high massflow the pressure drops. This is the same for a regular turbocharger. At this test we only show the high massflow performance of both devices. For the boost performance you can take a look at our channel.
@rickytrevino8281
4 жыл бұрын
Bruh 1 psi? Give me 15 more of those then maybe well be in business
@TorqAmp
4 жыл бұрын
The TorqAmp can do up to 6psi. On this page you can find the compressor map torqamp.com/torqamp-kit/
@williamdux6350
3 жыл бұрын
1 psi static lol, what's the cost compared to a vortec supercharger?
@TorqAmp
3 жыл бұрын
This is performance at max flow. The boost graph is shown on our website. So a lower flow will result in higher pressure. The flow is depending on engine size and engine rpm. For example a 2.0L engine will have nice performance gains over the whole engine rpm range.
@ytkdmr
4 жыл бұрын
how are you planning to cool this turbo and electric motor while on continious operation ?
@TorqAmp
4 жыл бұрын
For continuous operating we developed a water cooling system. For typical car use on the streets it is not necessary to have additional cooling because the TorqAmp is turned off most of the time. It will turn on at fast accelerations and these will typically last for couple of seconds. After that the engine will pull cold air through the compressor and everything will cool down.
@fotvalas
3 жыл бұрын
@@TorqAmp Does this increase fuel consumption? It's available at Europe?
@TorqAmp
3 жыл бұрын
@@fotvalas it only increases fuel consumption when you use it. When you never use it, it will not increase fuel consumption. This in contrast to belt driven superchargers that also consume fuel when you don't use it. It's available in Europe, we are from the Netherlands.
@fotvalas
3 жыл бұрын
@@TorqAmp That's good to hear. So we can use it at the beginning of the car only ? To help only the low rpm before the turbocharger of the car? Netherlands is perfect! I assume you don't have a distributor in Greece...
@fotvalas
3 жыл бұрын
And what's the difference between the Garrett Garrett eturbos?
@dirkdiggler9082
5 жыл бұрын
I've got 2 big problems and see a huge flaw even though great effort building this.1 How long will your battery last? and 2 this product is way too expensive
@TorqAmp
5 жыл бұрын
The battery has enough power to boost approximately 4min. The compressor is consuming max 5kW and the charger is max 500W. So 1 second of boosting requires 10 seconds of charging. In general this is not a problem because the TorqAmp is most of the time not rotating because you also don't drive full throttle all the time. Compare this to a turbocharger. A turbocharger is rotating slowly most of the time and only with large throttle input it spools up. That's also the reason of turbo lag, the turbo has to spool up. The price is depending on how you compare it. A typical turbo kit of a proper brand will cost you more. Installing such a kit will take much more labour hours. The TorqAmp is much easier to install. If you go to the scrap yard and find all the components yourself, weld your own exhaust manifold etc. You can have a cheaper install. We will launch a Kickstarter campaign with a lower price next week so stay tuned ;)
@ripfletching
6 жыл бұрын
If you’re interested I would love to do a few videos of this on my 5 L coyote . I would do numerous videos of the install and its performance capabilities
@ocerrr
6 жыл бұрын
ripfletching they wont be interested on your offer because it doesn't work at all on a 5 liter engine
@ripfletching
6 жыл бұрын
ocerrr bt well it would be quick and easy for me to find out and post a video conclusively if it would work on American 5 L V8 I know for myself I’m very interested and the rest of the world wants to know also but we’ll see thanks for your reply
@ocerrr
6 жыл бұрын
ripfletching it simply wont work
@Ra40Rob
6 жыл бұрын
ripfletching your 5l sucks more air than this product can blow, thus you will lose power.
@ocerrr
6 жыл бұрын
No it won't. It lacks that much power.
@cesarjorgemurillobarientos1813
2 жыл бұрын
good
@doom9344
4 жыл бұрын
we need 0.7 bar !!!!
@TorqAmp
4 жыл бұрын
We can make such systems on request. Send an email to jelke@torqamp.com
@kennethschultz6465
4 жыл бұрын
I would like to know .. of the electronic 12v to 48v step Up chardger .. or just 4x 12v chardgers a bunch of relays when Svitching from chardge paralell chardge to seriel consumption
@TorqAmp
4 жыл бұрын
It's a 12v tot 48v DC DC converter/charger
@kennethschultz6465
4 жыл бұрын
@@TorqAmp cool i aculey got on of thoes 48v@20A Pulse width modulation
@TorqAmp
4 жыл бұрын
@@kennethschultz6465 you mean you have a 1kW 48V power supply? Power comes from the 12V?
@kennethschultz6465
4 жыл бұрын
@@TorqAmp yep a step Up12v to 20A@48v chardger .. IT is for a HF RF AMP..
@TorqAmp
4 жыл бұрын
@@kennethschultz6465 sounds nice, do you have a link to check it out?
@flatheadfletch
3 жыл бұрын
So where can I buy LOCALLY ?
@VikingRul3s
5 жыл бұрын
So 0.07 bar + the elimination of suction, so total dynamic compression change is what +10%? (Change in compression is almost a 1-to-1 with performance numbers) 171 g/min, so should work on up to 2,3L engines at max 6000 rpms? For 2900€? Damn that's a lot for so low *theoretical* performance! Though not a complete scam, but it's just, a T3/4 brand name turbo is 1000-2000€ and they'll push in 1 bar easy (about 100% dynamic compression change)
@TorqAmp
5 жыл бұрын
It's indeed in the range of 2.3 liter 6000 rpm or even higher. Based on a simple rule of thumb we expect that there is also boost above 6000rpm on a 3 liter. Of course highly depending on how such an engine flows. This video shows only maximum massflow of the compressor and low boost. A lower massflow result in higher boost. The TorqAmp can deliver up to 0.4bar at lower massflow which is around 6psi. The pressure ratio as function of massflow could be found on www.torqamp.com
@VikingRul3s
5 жыл бұрын
@@TorqAmp Uuuh, 0,4 actually sounds fairly decent and the idea of not having to completely rebuild daily-driver engines anymore, just cause i want a little more "umph", doesn't sound bad. Will go check out your site a bit more then 👍
@TorqAmp
5 жыл бұрын
@@VikingRul3s there are also some more movies with dyno results ;)
@jackking5567
6 жыл бұрын
But 1 psi is shit! Look at what actual superchargers and turbos are pumping out and this can't compare. Also, pressure and output of pump needs to match the engine it's affixed to - it's not about absolute pressure and flow. It's about response. I call this a shit product.
@dj_paultuk7052
5 жыл бұрын
Over 15yrs ago i had one of the american "eRam" electric superchargers on a Pontiac Fiero GT 2.8 V6. At full throttle that just about made 1psi to 4000rpm, and by the time it was at 6000rpm it was at Zero PSI. Thats still better than Vacuum though. Problem is these things draw 65amps. That massive load on the alternator will put a load on the engine that will counter act any HP improvement. So effectively its pointless.
@TorqAmp
5 жыл бұрын
You're completely right. We made our system with a separate battery and additional charger. This charger is switched off during full boost ;) so no additional load on the crankshaft when you want to accelerate
@TheJohnsay
4 жыл бұрын
Why not compare an actual Electric supercharger with an real turbine? Those are available on ebay as well. Not the obvoius fake ones.
@TorqAmp
4 жыл бұрын
It's possible to do some comparisons but it will be hard to make a good comparison for a wider audience. On eBay you see a lot of turbo kits for a specific car. The TorqAmp is flexible and could be placed on less popular tuning cars. To have an easy comparison we have a compressor graph. See here torqamp.com/torqamp-kit/ This graph could be compared to a turbo compressor graph. For this you should know the operating points for the combination of engine and turbocharger. For the TorqAmp you will always be on the maximum pressure line.
@TheJohnsay
4 жыл бұрын
@@TorqAmp There are similar electric SC with an actual turbine for about 400€. An electric SC at a decent cost caould change alot of small engine cars.
@TorqAmp
4 жыл бұрын
@@TheJohnsay you mean the one that Cleetus McFarland tested before he tested the TorqAmp?
@thomasl7917
6 жыл бұрын
Why wasn't the restricted airfilter used on both?
@TorqAmp
6 жыл бұрын
The air filter is part of the eBay Supercharger, we don't expect that that is a limiting factor for that small air flow.
@metalrott324
5 жыл бұрын
0.4 amps?! Get it to drain 100amps and then we might have something useful.
@TorqAmp
5 жыл бұрын
Exact! We do around 100A at 48V, so it doesn't load your 12V system during boosting, it will charge the 48V buffer during cruising that's why you see the 0.4A at 12V ;)
@YouTubeSupportTeams
4 жыл бұрын
@@TorqAmp and it's still shit? not good my friend, not good
@TorqAmp
4 жыл бұрын
@@KZitemSupportTeams when do you think it's good? Because we think it's great!
@miketv151
6 жыл бұрын
Use gear sets like a mountain bike
@madghost28
4 жыл бұрын
Isnt 1 psi like 6-8 horsepower in most applications?
@TorqAmp
4 жыл бұрын
Good question. This is not the case. The pressure in combination with the actual engine speed and engine size is important for this calculation. So a 1 liter engine running at 3000rpm with 1 psi boost will give ~4 times less HP than a 4 liter engine at 3000rpm with 1 psi of boost. This calculation is based on a rule of thumb and depending on more factors but in general this is a good comparison. The same for 1psi on a 4 liter engine running 3000rpm compared to a 4 liter engine running 6000rpm (also 1psi of boost). The engine running 6000rpm will gain more horsepower from that 1 psi. You can imagine that the amount of air flow through that engine at 6000rpm is higher than the same engine running 3000rpm. Even if in both situations the pressure is 1psi, the flow is higher and so you can burn more fuel and gain more horsepower.
@rammzilla3340
6 жыл бұрын
Is this product available in the US???or where can i buy your product?
@JbassPlayer28
6 жыл бұрын
1 psi? useless, needs more power and really need at least 48v system
@ghostxop2101
6 жыл бұрын
But, youre taking air and throwing it out the otherside. You are then calculating how much air you are just throwing out the other side. You're Not forcing this air into a combustion chamber, and compressing it with the force provided from the fan. You'll need much more HP just in electricity to get that fan to spin fast enough to generate a compression in the combustion chamber. A TorqAmp supercharger = ebay product.
@StovallsGarage
6 жыл бұрын
1 psi seems like it wouldn't even make up for the weight of the system. Seems like you might want to gear that thing up substantially.
@dasgoofinhiemer5039
6 жыл бұрын
1psi on the top end, nearly 6psi on the bottom.
@StovallsGarage
6 жыл бұрын
Das Goofinhiemer I noticed the CFM rating, kinda figured it wouldn't do much on most engines on the top end, 6 psi on the bottom is great for pulling away from a light, but after that there is no top end, you'll only be using the top 1500 to 3000 rpm if you're racing. Unless the idea of this is just to improve low and midrange .
@TorqAmp
6 жыл бұрын
Highly depends on the size of your engine, on the 2.0L Honda Prelude we do 23% in horsepower increase
@Turbodequebrada
6 жыл бұрын
Como faço para ser representante de vcs aki no brasil?
@h4z33
4 жыл бұрын
Where's the air filter of your "turbo", buddy.
@TorqAmp
4 жыл бұрын
We do not really need an air filter for tests inside our this room. The air is clean enough. No sand or dirt.
@kr4dh4x0r
6 жыл бұрын
Don't forget, this is 1psi at atmospheric pressure. Most any motor will be able to suck more air than this compressor can blow..... either of the compressors, the cheap one or the "expensive one".
@alexanderlevenko1924
4 жыл бұрын
Guys I think they are comparing at 12V
@TorqAmp
4 жыл бұрын
It are indeed 2 different products. The eBay one is 12V and the TorqAmp running 48V.
@alexanderlevenko1924
4 жыл бұрын
@@TorqAmp Oh, I thought you were comparing the two at the same voltage. I thought you would have a bit of a higher pressure with the Torqamp at 48V.
@TorqAmp
4 жыл бұрын
@@alexanderlevenko1924 it's not a really good comparison. Only the max flow is compared, which is a huge difference. At maximum flow the compressor pressure will go to zero, that is what we measure. We understand that it's confusing. A better comparison is made in the video with the Phantom supercharger which you can find on our KZitem channel. There we show the hole boost curve which a centrifugal compressor can provide. The eBay one is not able to make a sufficient pressure to boost an engine due to the shape of the fan.
@Kyle_gallegher
6 жыл бұрын
No other talk about this? What in the fuck is 1 psi going to do. And when it would not be on it will suck gas mileage... You cannot spin at the right rpm for the engine in harmony at idle and under wot like a SC. Or an even sized turbo
@thundercuntinashoefullofpiss
3 жыл бұрын
CAN U DO A VID ON PC FAN VS SATURN 5 ROCKET LOL PMSL
@TorqAmp
3 жыл бұрын
I'm sorry we don't have the Saturn 5 overhere. Please send one.
@CarLoverPhotography
3 жыл бұрын
*** “ebay electric fan”
@TorqAmp
3 жыл бұрын
You're right!
@deegan727
5 жыл бұрын
I would say all they're good for is drying hair but they don't even put out hot air.
@TorqAmp
5 жыл бұрын
As you can see here due to the pressure increase the air temperature will also increase. torqamp.com/product-overview---specifications/
@Sextusheap
4 жыл бұрын
Cheap Hairdryer vs Premium Hairdryer
@TorqAmp
4 жыл бұрын
Premium hairdryer wins and is even able to boost a car.
@yaad2226
2 жыл бұрын
ok so ebay wins its more powerful than yo mama
@TorqAmp
2 жыл бұрын
Nopeeee
@yaad2226
2 жыл бұрын
@@TorqAmp me say ebay win me think that way
@TorqAmp
2 жыл бұрын
@@yaad2226 TorqAmp is more powerful. But this test shows only air pressure at max airflow. This doesn't show the compressor curve. The Ebay one doesn't have any because it's a fan instead of a compressor.
@fourmis28100
6 жыл бұрын
I just learned that Eturbos were existing!! It seems to be taking less space than an ordinary turbo right?? Do you think that a E-turbo could be add on any car like a universal turbo ?? Started from a basic 4 cylinder to a V6 or better a Wankel Rotary Engine...
@TorqAmp
6 жыл бұрын
Great that you found us! Indeed an Electric supercharger/E-turbo could be seen as a normal universal turbo, they both produce a higher intake manifold pressure (more air) that will be inhaled by the engine. The increase in air makes it possible to burn more fuel and so you get more more power! The major benefit of an electric version is that the boost is instant available, easy to install because you only have to deal with the cold intake part (just take some silicon hoses) and the powerbox necessary to provide the electric power could be located anywhere in the car.
@fourmis28100
6 жыл бұрын
Can you let me know about the price by email please (sou_sou_28100@hotmail.fr), I would be very interested in the future by your product... for sure we don't need to deal with the exhaust part so it's less difficult to install !! By adding a bigger Brushless and a bigger ESC, it could be possible to increase the inlet pressure and so to make couple size of Eturbos ??
@TorqAmp
6 жыл бұрын
We have send you an email with more details. It is indeed possible to have a higher mass-flow and/or pressure. With the current design we focused on naturally aspirated engines of 2 till 3 liter. You should be able to boost these engines without changing compression ratio. In the mean time we are working on other sizes.
@ocerrr
6 жыл бұрын
3DPilote28 who would call a 1psi blower a turbochager?
@adonyestimon4392
6 жыл бұрын
it's a scam dude don't fool yourself. Just KZitem "electric turbo scams" and you'll see. Don't let this guy get you for your hard earned money man.
@quantumquail8516
2 жыл бұрын
almost 3k euro. Bruh I wanted to give my Peugeot 205 a boost but with that sum I could buy 3 Peugeots. Or just buy the 120ps GTI.
@jdl2444
4 жыл бұрын
One pound boost? why bother? Just add some 100 proof to the fuel.
@TorqAmp
4 жыл бұрын
It can do up to 6psi torqamp.com/wp-content/uploads/elementor/thumbs/presure-ratio-oeagfceyoyncr1ghpy646ztdp3jm1qvdt9vchrcri8.png
@ActionMotorsportsCA
4 жыл бұрын
Will this fit my Tesla ?
@TorqAmp
4 жыл бұрын
Nope, only for combustion engines
@4x4VANMAN
4 жыл бұрын
Will this work on my new Tesla?
@TorqAmp
4 жыл бұрын
Nope, only on combustion engines
@ophirb25
3 жыл бұрын
What about the price difference?
@TorqAmp
3 жыл бұрын
Something around 100$ compared to 2500$ (but the 100$ is 100% a waste of your money ;))
@ophirb25
3 жыл бұрын
@@TorqAmp it seems a bit pricey, for 2500$ I can put a "real" turbo or supercharger with much better results and possibilities of configuration.
@TorqAmp
3 жыл бұрын
@@ophirb25 yes that could be. This is highly depending on your car/engine and if you have to pay for hours. For a lot of cars/engines there is no turbo kit resulting in high prices for such installation. Also the TorqAmp is easy to remove and place on another car.
@hakimdz4112
5 жыл бұрын
hello, where can i get one ? i am from france. tnx b4
@TorqAmp
5 жыл бұрын
Hi, thanks for your interest. You can fill out the the contact form on www.torqamp.com or send an email to info@torqamp.com
@alexandernikolaevich1839
6 жыл бұрын
just one question , it,s need tested on real car
@TorqAmp
6 жыл бұрын
It is tested on multiple cars! Check facebook.com/torqamp or www.torqamp.com, on our KZitem channel you can find the test with the Honda Prelude
@alexandernikolaevich1839
6 жыл бұрын
TorqAmp Ya , it was really tested on many cars , strange why car makers still not use it
@DirtMcGert29054
5 жыл бұрын
Have you configured that micro motion for air ?
@TorqAmp
5 жыл бұрын
Yessss
@1NIGHTMAREGAMER
6 жыл бұрын
Torq is better then ebay one but most cars need 5 psi for any hp boost
@TorqAmp
6 жыл бұрын
Please check our video with the Honda or the Lexus, at lower mass flow the pressure is higher (up to ~6psi max) so for a 2 liter engine you'll never reach these high mass flow so you have always more than the 1 psi available which is shown here.
@jesusyeshuaelelyonelshadai6295
6 жыл бұрын
Still not enough its like saing what pulls a car better a mouse or a rat??? 😒😒👎
@bradhollom5305
6 жыл бұрын
theres another way but some people wont seek it old school mouse is allways great but seems like everyone still runs rats they all seem to think bigger is better turbo mouse that's fun
@alexcute978
2 ай бұрын
Buy the eBay one torqamp is too expensive
@xFourTwenty117
5 жыл бұрын
You'd probably get more torque out of this setup by just attaching the electric motor to the accessory belt
@TorqAmp
5 жыл бұрын
We did some calculations on this and the you get much more power from compressing air and burning fuel instead of making a parallel hybrid setup. This is due to the power you get from the extra amount of fuel that you're able to burn.
@xFourTwenty117
5 жыл бұрын
@@TorqAmp Have you tried larger turbo/motor combinations with a bigger battery pack? Curious if is possible to get over 600cfm at around 2-5psi
@TorqAmp
5 жыл бұрын
@@xFourTwenty117 we are working on a larger compressor. Not sure if this will get into the 600cfm region. It's also possible to combine 2 TorqAmp, than it will be easy to achieve.
@SuperEnkelejd
5 жыл бұрын
I need some suggestions boys: I have a non-turbo W-Jetta 2011 2.0 petrol. If I install an electric turbocharger would be any problem with engine light or it will be necessary to change electronic car package???
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