You know what would be awsome? Total War: Tiber Septim
@VRichardsn
10 жыл бұрын
I am throwing money at the screen but nothing happens.
@allen3178
7 жыл бұрын
Ezra Rhoads There's a mod for total war: medieval 2 I think
@thatchannel195
7 жыл бұрын
Ezra Rhoads yes
@victuz
7 жыл бұрын
Total War: Talos
@andrewcribbs2139
6 жыл бұрын
Ezra Rhoads dude I would love it if they made a Total War: Elder Scrolls as a game that CA made where you can play as the Stormcloaks or the Empire or the two famous clans of Hammerfell
@Nyctosuba
8 жыл бұрын
Everyone in the comments is debating Talos' godhood And im just sitting here doing Skooma.
@CorsairPrince
8 жыл бұрын
nee d help with your skooma addiction call 1-800-skooma helpline
@wildefice1
8 жыл бұрын
+Xzener you want a real rush ... try mixing skooma with some histsap I am tasting colors right now
@BradBrown95
8 жыл бұрын
lol you funny busted
@spodermen5003
8 жыл бұрын
No game has a better sound track than oblivion and there never will be, something about oblivion makes me luv it over Skyrim
@evilmatt6465
8 жыл бұрын
+Xzener Oooh.... that lovely skooma.
@Nonamearisto
10 жыл бұрын
And the Sovngarde thing... if Talos had been in the hall, it would have been evidence that he was NOT a God, given that the heroes in the hall, while great, were not gods themselves. Talos would likely be above the hall of heroes, hanging out with the other eight divines, wherever they are. You do get to see one Aedra, though: Tsun. He's implied to be a lesser Aedra, not like Akatosh or Mara.
@Dextear
10 жыл бұрын
You mean an et'Ada?
@Nonamearisto
10 жыл бұрын
Special Rabbit The et'Ada were the spirits that came before the Aedra and the Daedra. As it is, the "altar blessings don't mean anything" argument is very weak, given that the priests themselves seem to have little power to enchant the altars, and the character can make the altars himself without being a priest. Yes, he needs to have an amulet first, but that doesn't mean you need a priest in turn to make that. In any event, there is zero information in the game to suggest that the blessings come from the priests. We see Aedra show up from time to time, and we know that such a thing as the blood of a divine, an avatar of an Aedra, or even an Aedra's bow really exist. The Aedra are more mysterious than the Daedra for sure, but they truly exist in the Elder Scrolls universe.
@breadqueen5351
10 жыл бұрын
I agree with you about that Sovngarde thing, because there are heroes, not gods. That could mean that Talos is a god.
@Darkblender5
10 жыл бұрын
I was looking forward to seeing Shor in Sovngarde, but he was off doing something apparently.
@bjorngunnarson8490
10 жыл бұрын
Dr. Banjo Shor is actually Lorkhan.
@LoadedEmu97
9 жыл бұрын
I don't know why, but hearing my character (or ours) being part of The Elder Scrolls Lore, as the Dragonborn of the fourth era, makes me feel like I truly accomplished something! My deeds in Skyrim have won me (us) a place in Tamriel's history, and I find that truly amazing! I hope TES 6 remembers my (our) story!
@LeonGun8
9 жыл бұрын
To be honest the least important hero in main-line TES has so far been the Nerevarine who's only real contribution to history as a whole was destabilizing Morrowind and making it more akin to Imperial interests... and being partially responsible for the chain of events leading to the destruction of Vvandefal and the eruption of Red Mountain (the death of the Tribunal lead to the Ministry of Truth's fallon Vivec City, which led to the destruction of a huge chunk of Morrowind). Yep,great hero. The other really pointless hero would have to be the Agent, who not even Bethesda is sure what he managed to do. Allhe did was make a bunch of crap happen,simultanously for some shoddy bad-writing reasoning, which just led to Hamerfell growing weaker and easier to control for the Empire.
@LeonGun8
9 жыл бұрын
***** True,if we're going for who did the most work to save the mortal races, The CHampion helped stop an Oblivion invasion and saved the world as a whole while the Dragonborn stopped the World Eater who had the power to destroy the world as a whole. And if we go with the Oblivion DLC as canon,the Champion became an actual Daedric Lord in the end,restoring the balance of power in Oblivion.
@1WhiteShadow
9 жыл бұрын
Wrench Man Honestly the "dragonborn" is too over-hyped in TES lore, like everything was handed to him without him earning it. What about the Nerevarine who stoped the deadly plague in Morrowind, and was said to be a god? What about the Champion of Cyrodil (Hero of Kvatch) who saved Martin Septim and helped stop the Oblivion Crisis, basically saving the entire world? Nobody knows those characters and they're barely remembered. I honestly hate the dragonborn of the fourth because he's so uninteresting, a person that gets their power just cause they're born with it unlike those who worked for it... It's one of the reasons older TES fans dislike Skyrim and prefer Morrowind/Oblivion far more.
@1WhiteShadow
9 жыл бұрын
***** Actually it's more because the game companies these days try to out do the other games, trying to make their game appealing to all and it makes them lose sight of what made their games great... Call of Duty is a great example. Everyone can say COD 4 and MW2 were good, Black Ops was interesting as well but we all know what happend from there. Oblivion is like COD 4... Skyrim is like... MW3, sure it seems cool but it's just paving the way for further disappointment... *COUGH COUGH* ESO *COUGH COUGH* that game being like Ghosts... I'm sure the analogy should help others understand my viewpoint.
@TheLakerOne
9 жыл бұрын
***** Actually, the Dragonborn is probably the most important Hero so far. He/she stopped Alduin from turning the Kalpa in which individuals have archieved CHIM, Lorkhan returned in form of Lorkhan and a kalpa-friendly time-god, Akatosh, was created. Seeing how he is likely a Shezzarine, while Talos is Shezzar now, he is also an avatar of the god Talos, the most powerful being in the universe, having archieved CHIM and mantled Lorkhan. Add to that that he will for sure archieve godhood later on due to him eating all those little shards of the Aka-oversoul, and you see why he is that important. Without him all of the archievements of Vivec and Lorkhan may have been massively f*cked up, and Mundus may have been kinda pointless.
@preferredpronoun3689
10 жыл бұрын
If Talos isn't a God, then how can I get blessings when I click the Talos' shrine? Check mate, atheist Thalmor.
@QuantumHeadache
10 жыл бұрын
The shrines could just be enchanted by the priests. It's difficult to differentiate between magic and miracle.
@preferredpronoun3689
10 жыл бұрын
QuantumHeadache Now that's heresy you speak.
@QuantumHeadache
10 жыл бұрын
My apologies, please don't throw me in the stocks, I'm just a bard.
@DevilSlayr
10 жыл бұрын
Herrera saurus Heresy=reason
@QuantumHeadache
10 жыл бұрын
Dude, what the hell?
@00Linares00
9 жыл бұрын
They needed the blood of a god in oblivion, they used blood found in Tiber Septim`s armor, it worked, talos did became a god.
@zikiev
9 жыл бұрын
And the blessings from Talos cult to defeat Umaril the unfeathered, Talos avatar being present to Nerevarine (Along with Mara's and Stendarr's), and Vivec's statement regarding Tiber Septim achieved a certain godlike powers (so powerful that even it's actually a state higher than Aedra or Daedra)
@evpamatian
9 жыл бұрын
The god like power stated by vivec was CHIM which vivec also acheived
@evpamatian
9 жыл бұрын
But yeah he ascended to godhood together with the other reicarnations of lorkhan
@zikiev
9 жыл бұрын
In the end that Talos is actually a divine, but now in the same picture that the Nords in the Skyrim game thought to be. That's why I didn't really minded with those silly "Imperial Vs Stormcloak" debate thing.
@zikiev
9 жыл бұрын
Also, It's Zenithar not Stendarr's that I wrote earlier, apologies.
@Katxo1831
8 жыл бұрын
Akatosh himself says to worship the NINE Damn Elves
@Cheyis_
8 жыл бұрын
Where is this from, "friend"?
@Katxo1831
8 жыл бұрын
+Napoleon's Mate (A.K.A Rexscout) The ten commands from the Divines.
@Cheyis_
8 жыл бұрын
Chi Willington OK.
@canonreeveoncano4686
8 жыл бұрын
+Chi Willington Akatosh is probably the biggest elf-hater in Aurbis.
@alexhodgkinson6718
8 жыл бұрын
+Canonreeve Oncano Depends on the belief. It's all hearsay in The Elder Scrolls, which is great and realistic. Mercedes-Benz have there own belief of what Akatosh is.
@T-Bone-fm7jt
7 жыл бұрын
The dominion wouldn't even have stepped foot in Cyrodiil if Tiber Septim was still alive on nirn.
@blazednlovinit
7 жыл бұрын
If he actually he's reached Chim, then death probably isn't the limitation it once was. Vivec describes Chim as stepping out of the universe and comprehending yourself within it, and those who succeed can leave and enter the tower (reality) at will.
@sentimentalmariner590
7 жыл бұрын
The dominion wouldn't attacked at all if talos left them alone originally.The altmer are at heart isolationist.
@thatchannel195
7 жыл бұрын
Thijs Tharn why are you everywhere?
@elenwen5784
6 жыл бұрын
T-Bone6543 unless another Breton decided to slit his throat
@sigorolata2829
6 жыл бұрын
^ Someone obviously hasen't played ESO that predates Skyrim. The High Elves have been fighting invaders for centuries.
@andrewlevin6331
10 жыл бұрын
I think it says a lot when the Elves rebelled against an empire, not because of oppression, not because of Racism, not because of any sort of provocation, but because they were just really butthurt.
@colerainwater1838
4 жыл бұрын
Hay as a wood elf I'm offended
@sheogorath979
3 жыл бұрын
You mean just like the stormcloaks?
@SonWsp
3 жыл бұрын
@@sheogorath979 Ulfric was a Thalmor sleeper agent so
@franciscoselau3759
3 жыл бұрын
The elves are angry with the human after oblivion crises that the thalmor get in power because in time of war they need battle against the daedra, the problem that the humans comited summoning daedra
@joserijalkasyasyaf9723
3 жыл бұрын
@@SonWsp not exactly, but what he do making thalmor gain the upper hand for the next wave
@Captain_Hapton
8 жыл бұрын
Every time someone in Skyrim says "By the Eight", I yell at the top of my lungs "NINE!"
@Captain_Hapton
7 жыл бұрын
Cheesycurve 54 He is the God of MAN! And we are but MAGGOTS! Writhing in the FILTH of our own CORRUPTION!
@blazednlovinit
7 жыл бұрын
Let dead gods lie.
@Katxo1831
7 жыл бұрын
Same xD
@ussmissouri3702
7 жыл бұрын
Possum Soul, would you like to join the Knights of the Nine? You understand the truth, now protect it.
@aaronyayger
7 жыл бұрын
Cheesycurve 54 He's a proven God, but sure.
@TheMormonSorceress
10 жыл бұрын
It seams to me the High Elves are jealous of Talos for achieving something that was taken from them. but that's just my opinion.
@neomeo101
10 жыл бұрын
Talos is not a god. Just because Talos united Tamriel does not make him a god, The eight Divines are considered gods because they all helped in the creation of Nirn, all Talos did was unite Tamriel for a short period of time.
@TheMormonSorceress
10 жыл бұрын
Erwin Rommel I respect your opinion, It's just there are evidence that suggest that Talos may have become a god. But that's just my opinion. I respect yours.
@PatriotGuy23
10 жыл бұрын
Erwin Rommel If he wasn't a god, then the ritual in Oblivion would not have worked, 'Blood of the Divine' if I remember correctly
@TheMormonSorceress
10 жыл бұрын
Jimmy Jazz exactly my point.
@samuelwoody3555
10 жыл бұрын
Jimmy Jazz Perhaps it was not literal, and just needed the blood of Talos, and used the word divine to make it subtle?
@PeterCTheRock
9 жыл бұрын
In The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion, the "blood of a divine" is needed to open the portal to Mankar Camoran's Paradise. The blood used is from the Armor of Tiber Septim, which implies that Tiber Septim indeed became a god. In The Elder Scrolls IV: Knights of the Nine the Blessing of Talos is what allows the player to follow Umaril the Unfeathered into the spirit world and destroy his very soul preventing him from being reborn in oblivion and returning again. The blessing also allows the player to return to his body afterwards, further evidence of Talos' divinity. Shrines of Talos in Skyrim also gives blessing confirming him as God! also when Devines speak in their name they speak in name of Nine thus recognizing Talos as 9th Devine! Elves can eat shit, they are just jealous as they got humiliated by him! end of story! Talos guide you my friends!
@coyoteailstock9498
8 жыл бұрын
+Peter C Evidence
@mickey4697
4 жыл бұрын
Also Kyne and akatosh talk of the nine
@mickey4697
4 жыл бұрын
Talos guide you!
@stoffer2132
4 жыл бұрын
Baron Blitz What about Wulf from Morrowind he is a war veteran who gives you his lucky coin which is a coin of Tiber Septim and later it is very strongley hinted Wulf was actually a physical manefistation of Tiber
@hammerite6418
4 жыл бұрын
And don’t forget the gift of charity
@dravendfr
8 жыл бұрын
As an Imperial I have a Talos shrine amongst the other eight divines in the home I made in the Hearthfire expansion.
@christiancristof491
8 жыл бұрын
Indeed, imperial brother. Let's pray the nines.
@squashman2089
8 жыл бұрын
same
@dravendfr
8 жыл бұрын
As I went down to statues to pray... Studying about that Talos way... 😂
@thefracturedbutwhole5475
8 жыл бұрын
Funny, i only have 8 shrines in my house . . . i don't argue Talos's Godhood but he just has nothing on the other 8 divines . . . what has Talos done or rather what does he even do as a God? "God of Man" WTF does that even mean i support the Empire and hate the Thalmor, and you can worship Talos all you like, but as far as Gods go . . . he kind of sucks
@dravendfr
8 жыл бұрын
The Fractured But Whole The god of man thing is because he WAS a man in life. There is also evidence that Talos does exist, that he ascended to godhood. I would need to do my research again to detail that story as it has been a few years and I have been focusing on Bloodborne lore.
@ShoddyCast
10 жыл бұрын
Glad you're enjoying the episode. Those concerned about evidenced missed it is not because of an overlook but because of time. Had we included every piece of info for or against Talos' claim, it would be over 30 mins and take longer than 2 weeks to complete. Feel free to discuss those topics not mentioned and state your beliefs. Unlock the Elder Scrolls Lore Audio Book | www.patreon.com/ShoddyCast Follow us on Facebook | Facebook.com/ShoddyCast Follow us on Twitter | twitter.com/ShoddyCast
@nerevarine792
10 жыл бұрын
I better get a mention in your Tribunal video.
@theheroofkvatch3001
10 жыл бұрын
Nerevarine? What are you doing here?
@Amadeo790
10 жыл бұрын
I realy enjoy this a lot. its puts perspective on the good bad and ugly.
@nerevarine792
10 жыл бұрын
The Hero of Kvatch Enjoying the philosophy of it all. Hey are you coming to that TES protagonist gathering next Sundas? Drinks and wenches will be everywhere. However I suggest you drink your fair share of the mead fast. Dovahkiin will be there and you know how Dovahkiin hogs the mead. Typical nord...
@mr.voidroy6869
10 жыл бұрын
Nerevarine inb4 Dovahkiin
@millerrepin4452
9 жыл бұрын
Hm, that's weird the dragonborn doesn't look like the argonian I played as...
@lurkingharris
8 жыл бұрын
+miller repin Must be a texture issue
@theonemrtom101
8 жыл бұрын
When we're First talking about race and dragonborn, can someone explain to me if and how other races than Nords can be Dragonborns? And has there ever been other Dragonborns than Nords?
@FatrickAteman
8 жыл бұрын
+Tom André Svellingen akatosh didn't care about race he just decided you would be the best mortal to mix dragon blood with also the entirety of the septim dynasty were imperial but there has never been an elf/beast dragonborn until you
@libenhagos9335
7 жыл бұрын
*" Imperial (which is basicly Nord in Cyrodiil)"* no. the nedes and colovians that make up the empire are natives to cyrodiil. THe nords are descendants of atmorans. The atmorans invaded skyrim and fought the snow elves. The imperials evolved in cyrodill and were enslaved by the ayleids before the uprising. *"Breton (which is basicly Nord mixture with Elf)"* Bretons are just man and mer. Mostly nede and mer, and the nedes were imperials.
@urielseptim198
7 жыл бұрын
Bunker Boy Gaming I know you, oh your that's because your my other account
@felicitysmoak560
9 жыл бұрын
Heretic would be a misused term since it is evident that the Aedra accept Talos as a God in the Divine Crusader questline in Oblivion.
@AskiFin
9 жыл бұрын
+Queen Elsa not to mention the part where where his manifestation appears to Nerevarine. Not found on Sovengard(altho if you believe elfs and somehow can explain the divine blood/manifestation, you could say he wasn't honorable).
@ianbaker672
8 жыл бұрын
+Aski [Fin] and his blood was accepted as divine blood in opening mancar camoran's paradise and he is absent from sovngarde
@mickey4697
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you atleast someone is Using there bran flakes
@pixel_glitched
3 жыл бұрын
And when even the DAEDRA acknowledge it, that speaks volumes. Some such volumes are probably tucked away in Apocrypha, but _they are volumes, nonetheless._
@Wolf_Dominic
3 жыл бұрын
In that case, the Thalmor are the true heretics.
@jusey1
8 жыл бұрын
Talos is a god but Tiber Septim is only just one third of Talos. Talos is a combination of Tiber Septim, Zurin, and Ysmir whom all took the role of Talos in life at one point in time, and all of their powerful souls clashed together in death. Actually, these three souls clashing together is what caused the Dragon Break known as the "Warp in the West" AKA: Daggerfall ending. If you haven't notice, Talos didn't existed at all in the games Arena and Daggerfall. It was just the Eight Divines and nothing else. However, Dragon Break happened and the timeline was changed, causing Talos to become reality and an actual god. So, Talos is indeed a god. Tiber Septim just never ascended to godhood in what is believed to be true. Due to timeline being rewritten and all that.
@NinjaErek
10 жыл бұрын
The Hero of Kvatch became a god. Although he became a daedra instead of an aedra
@sanguisbumb6138
10 жыл бұрын
Wait... Where did you get that?
@Vizardlord7
10 жыл бұрын
If you complete the Summerset Isle quest in Oblivion. The main character becomes the new Sheagorath. If you do the Dardera quest of his to get the Wabbajack, he talks with Peligius III and mentions whole bunch of events that he experienced when he was the Hero of Kvatch.
@EternalXSamurai
10 жыл бұрын
sanguis bumb Your character becomes Sheogorath, the hints are right in your face during the Wabbajack quest, for anyone who paid attention to the Shivering Isles..
@austinherby9218
10 жыл бұрын
He because them best god, and see, if the Hero of Kvatch can do it, then certainly tiber septim did.
@w7100
10 жыл бұрын
Vizardlord7 you mean shivering isles but yes
@Gothstafr
10 жыл бұрын
Anyone who doubts the divinity of Talos has never played an Elder Scrolls game other than Skyrim.
@rapu4
10 жыл бұрын
Does the name Wulf ring a bell? You know, Morrowind stuff.
@The_Gallowglass
10 жыл бұрын
Of course he is divine. :D He is mighty TALOS!
@ARSP333
10 жыл бұрын
Not to mention in the mind of madness quest. Sheogorath actually mentioned talos' Ascension to Godhood. Granted Sheogorath is the daedric prince of madness but this doesn't strike me as something he would lie or otherwise be wrong about.
@Gabu_
10 жыл бұрын
***** You have to remember that Sheogorath is actually the hero of Kvatch (the hero of oblivion), who descended into Sancre Tor. For that, it's obvious why he would say Talos is a divine.
@ARSP333
10 жыл бұрын
Gabu - San It is fair to assume that the daedric princes can sense the divines. I imagine that sheogorath would notice a new divine in the sky. Or notice that there were nine divines instead of eight.
@dreadcthulhu5
10 жыл бұрын
Gabu - San The Hero of Kvatch became Sheogorath and replaced him. As a divine being he would know another one.
@mrjoke112
10 жыл бұрын
iammadness Well it's not sure. In the Shivering Isles DLC, you do become the Sheogorath, but when the Hero of Kvatch asks that is it possible to become a daedric prince, sheogorath (or was it haskil) answers that he doesn't know for a sure. This means that Sheogorath could be a title. Maybe he/she lived to the end of his/her life and died. Maybe the Sheogorath that you had defeated (jyggalag) was brought back to rule his realm. We do not know for a sure. Sheogorath sure seems like a man in Skyrim so it doesn't fit in with the fact that the Hero of Kvatch could be a woman too.
@Zedigan
9 жыл бұрын
Even if he is not one of the Divines he is still an extraordinary man with the blood of a dragon and Divine blessings. He is not like men or mer for he is at the very least a demigod. I personally welcome Talos Stormcrown , son of Atmora as one of the nine!
@Spacefrisian
8 жыл бұрын
+Zedi gan Talos isnt the only mortal to have become devine/ Aedra, head to Falkreath, the guy at the cemetary tells a story about Arkay once being mortal. BTW he is a High Elf.
@Zedigan
8 жыл бұрын
Spacefrisian That's one elf, the Nords are an entire society.
@Spacefrisian
8 жыл бұрын
+Zedi gan Just pointing out that Talos isnt the first in lore to become Aedra, Arkay did the exact same thing. Yet he is counted by the elves as a real divine despite of that story. Thats what iam pointing at. (eg the 8 are actually the 7 if the Thalmor would be consistent.)
@Zedigan
8 жыл бұрын
Spacefrisian true, but skyrim still belongs to the nords
@aragincajun4789
8 жыл бұрын
To not believe in Talos as a God is to invoke the wraith of Sithis
@walrusking14
10 жыл бұрын
Anyone who thinks the mighty Talos is not a god; is a thalmor loving, milk drinker!
@StupidoSpencer
10 жыл бұрын
And anyone who think Tiber Septim is a God is a Heimskr loving milk drinker. See it goes both ways. To be fair though I think the dragonborn in the skyrim game is one of the stormcloaks if we didn't have decisions anyway. Considering the imperials attempts to execute him at the start of the game and the Altmer's thalmor is trying to eliminate the dragonborn several times.
@walrusking14
10 жыл бұрын
***** I will gladly embrace the love of Heimskr and milk....as long as its 2%!
@StupidoSpencer
10 жыл бұрын
walrusking14 It's 50% and 50% heimskr. I should warn you he shouts alot during your loving embrace or whatever you call it. Sexual intercourse is the word!
@thearoacebrit4515
6 жыл бұрын
~Spencer~ it's most likely that the dragonborn is neutral, because in the main story if you didn't pick a side in the civil war you get a quest called seson unchanging (or somethings like that) which forces a peace between stormcloaks and the empire.
@alexandertheawesome3072
5 жыл бұрын
~Spencer~ unless it was all misunderstanding and he was there to fight for the Legion. I always go legion anyways because Ulfric I feel isn’t really on the up and up. I also think that without the Cyrodil protection if Summerset wanted to they could easily destroy Skyrim. Technically speaking the White-Gold Concordant is only valid to the empire not an independent nation.
@356MONKEYMAN
10 жыл бұрын
Btw Talos also appeared to the Nerevarine at the Ghostgate in the form of an Imperial soldier called Wulf.
@johnsilverheart2223
10 жыл бұрын
I remember that, he was the one who gave us the lucky coin!
@jjjmanyo
9 жыл бұрын
Talos became Talos by both mantling Lorkhan and achieving CHIM (understanding that the universe isn't real, and gaining full omnipotence over it). Michael Kirkbride (basically the creator of Elder Scrolls Lore in general) has come out saying Talos is the single most powerful entity in the ES universe.
@TemujinTheKhan
9 жыл бұрын
Shayded Nope. Sithis is the strongest.
@jjjmanyo
9 жыл бұрын
TheNesiag Sithis isn't an entity, it's a concept personified. And even if it was an entity, Talos literally gained omnipotence and omniscience.
@TemujinTheKhan
9 жыл бұрын
Shayded Actually it is. Sithis is the one responsible for the creation of Mundus (by creating Lorkhan or as nords know him shor).Sithis is also Omnipotent.And also he is the "will" of Padomay.
@jjjmanyo
9 жыл бұрын
TheNesiag No. That's just flat out wrong and you're making shit up. I've read all the related lore. Talos Achieved CHIM as well as combined with Lorkhan. Even Michael Kirkbride (the LORE CREATOR of the entire series) has said that Talos is the most powerful.
@TemujinTheKhan
9 жыл бұрын
Shayded Im not making shit up. Really :) Sithis should be the most powerful deity.While Talos is the most powerful DIVINE. Sithis is neither Daedra nor Aedra he is the one true creator of Mundus* *Fun fact: Did you know that Sithis actually created Lorkhan,who in turn created Mundus.
@pimpskittelz
7 жыл бұрын
People argue if Talos isnt a god/divine. The Daedric princes and the Divines are opposites, but a like to a sense. The Hero of K'vatch became Sheogorath. A mortal became a Daedric Prince. Tiber achieved chim (Look it up). Tiber is a part of Talos, with a lot of other people, he became a part of Talos because The Dragon Break/Underking/ A bunch of Daggerfall stuff. Tiber Septim's blood is used as blood of a divine. HE EVEN SHOWS UP IN MORROWIND AND NO ONE CAN SEE HIM BUT THE NEREVARINE; Wulf in Morrowind, possibly WULFharth, is even recognized by an oracle as Tiber Septim, since they're the same person essentially through Talos. Either way, Thalmor are anti-man elitists. They got their asses handed to them by Tiber and the Numidium, so a man become a god sparks some spite.
@yaumelepire6310
5 жыл бұрын
Though it's worth noting Talos did need an elven weapon to conquer Summerset.
@ufodeath
9 жыл бұрын
This is many steps ahead of Rhexx's video "talos secrets".
@ufodeath
8 жыл бұрын
***** Yea, Rhexx is more about giving out his particular biased views and leaving out very important information and/or considerations that counter his views rather than providing a balanced lore education. Back to fallout 4 :D
@bobsaget4465
8 жыл бұрын
+Daiya Shoko just read the comments. He said himself that the video was ENTIRELY based on a book he found in the game. He even admitted that it was pretty biased.
@356MONKEYMAN
10 жыл бұрын
I love it when Shoddy mention the protagonists. Nerevarine HoK and Dovahkiin are 3 of the greatest legends to roam Nirn. I would argue that all 3 rival Talos if not surpass him.
@Geistlake
10 жыл бұрын
Nah, I'm a huge Nerevarine fanboy and I gotta say Talos is the biggest one of them all.
@Tespri
10 жыл бұрын
Wasn't the player suppose to be the eternal champion?
@356MONKEYMAN
10 жыл бұрын
Geistlake I don't see Talos as THAT special tbh. He didn't risk his soul to save the afterlife or anything like that. In fact. he was a weak dragonborn if you ask me. He fell for the thing all Dov desire. Power and lands. To rule over Tamriel.
@BjornTurambar
10 жыл бұрын
Talos didn't have magical powers, he had only his thum and his wits and when his voice was taken from him, the only thing that he had left was his mind, his strategical might he conquered the 9 provinces using his brains, the nerevarine hok and the dragonborn they did great things even legendary things but in the end it is Talos that is worshiped as a god, it is Talos's worship that started wars, it is Talos who people pray at night before going to bed seriously it is like comparing Jesus with God....
@ingmaster5
10 жыл бұрын
My Nerevarine was... different.
@storyspren
10 жыл бұрын
The words "days and nights of blood and venom" gave me goosebumps because it reminded me of Malukah's song Beauty of Dawn. These are days and nights of venom and blood Heroes will rise as the anchors fall Brave the strife, reclaim every soul that belongs To the Beauty of Dawn
@TheAustin216
10 жыл бұрын
He cannot be Aedra because that mean "our ancestors," so he may be worshiped one of the divines, but by definition that would make him a daedra if the lore is to be intact.
@zilia471
10 жыл бұрын
furthermore a the diverence between an aedra and a deadra is that aedra helped in the creation of Mundos. BUT since Talos was born AFTER the creation of Mundos, he can not be a divine.
@johnnybuttsecks6630
10 жыл бұрын
Xamorak ark He's gotta have atleast some godlike influence, seeing as you get blessings from his shrines and amulets..
@TheAustin216
10 жыл бұрын
Johnny Buttsecks You can get them from Daedra too.
@TheAustin216
10 жыл бұрын
The priest have magic and may have enchanted them.
@Darkheartedone91
10 жыл бұрын
Austin Francis I doubt a priest knows the magic to enchant an item to augment your shouts. The dragonborn him/herself cant even create a shrine of Talos without using an amulet and cant create an amulet of Talos him/herself at all; Talos was raised to godhood by the Divines.
@scorpioninpink
10 жыл бұрын
TALOS IS A GOD!
@MarkusKrassius
10 жыл бұрын
Agreed!
@samwalie
10 жыл бұрын
No he's not he was a great man not a god
@samwalie
10 жыл бұрын
Therealsnufkins Fender Well maybe.............
@Lightscribe225
10 жыл бұрын
Therealsnufkins Fender He is, the man literally transformed Cyrodil from endless jungle to rolling hills. Pretty godlike.
@rapu4
10 жыл бұрын
Lightscribe225 And he is the most powerful being in the Godhead's dream, as he achieved CHIM.
@cokekazoo9996
10 жыл бұрын
I don't know if any of you guys at Shoddycast will ever see this, but this series is easily the greatest series i've watched on youtube. The amount of information is awesome, and the attention to detail is phenomenal. I can't get enough of it, and even though i'm sure it will happen one day, I hope you never run out of stuff to make videos on. Lastly, I just want to say thank you for this amazing series.
@PxLRainbowz
10 жыл бұрын
"What the rebels like to forget is its the empire keeping the dominion out of Skyrim" Remember that before you choose.
@jamesbhollingsworth5452
4 жыл бұрын
They’re actually fighting to keep the Thalmor in Skyrim.
@thesecondislander
10 жыл бұрын
I'm very surprised that you completely failed to mention The Arcturian Heresy. It's really important to read it to understand the different takes on the Tiber Septim "Mythos".
@thesecondislander
10 жыл бұрын
I can see how it's in their interest to make it as accessible as possible. I know when i first got into the lore i got annoyed because there were no straight answers. It is quite easy to see why history wouldn't be so perfectly and objectively recorded though, we have a great example in our own world.
@gskaloyan
10 жыл бұрын
thesecondislander Indeed. Sadly they can't cover every tiny little aspect of his life and times. Ater all they didn't get into all the details of his conquer either. But with a little luck they whet the appetites of people who are willing to go into the lore and look for their own answers. To read the history and the stories and play the games with a deeper level of knowledge and deeper appreciation.
@LeonLian
10 жыл бұрын
I would have preferred to see the Oblivion character in Imperial Legion armor (because I believe that's what they were trying to imply was his main armor), but oh well, I love all the effort put into these videos as well as the final product. Please continue for as long as you can.
@theheroofkvatch3001
10 жыл бұрын
images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130708053946/protagonist/images/f/ff/Hero_of_Kvatch_(default).png I wore that Imperial legion armor during the battle of Kvatch. I later upgraded to steel armor.
@LeonLian
10 жыл бұрын
The Hero of Kvatch Well they also showed him in legion armor during the trailer, but I wasn't complaining.
@Usersekhmet
10 жыл бұрын
The Hero of Kvatch hello me! i am you or are you me? nah im pretty shure that you are me ha! i love talking to myself!
@LeonLian
10 жыл бұрын
Sheogorath godofmadness and I love you.
@VRichardsn
10 жыл бұрын
10:49 that part just ended up convincing me that Talos is the one to whom I should direct my worshiping. Tomorrow, when I resume playing Morrowind, first thing to do will be to approach the nearest Imperial Fort and speak with the priest in order to become a member of the Imperial Cult.
@zod2242
10 жыл бұрын
how can you dislike a series so well put together. thanks for the blood and sweet you put into this.
@utkusucu1
10 жыл бұрын
If Talos Isnt a god the ritual which opens portal to Paradise didnt work because you need the blood of Aedra and Mehrunes Dagon could destroyed Tamriel.Also without the blessing of Talos you cannot destroy Umaril and he would have destroyed Tamriel.Talos is a god and he is the savior of both men and mer.The elves are just jealous.
@jakesanders8348
10 жыл бұрын
Finally someone pointed this out shooddy seems to fail in pointing out that the game itself confirms that Talos is a real god and since this series is about the Lore it should mention it not just say its a matter of debate because its both debate and fact that Talos is God
@IamWalkingDead1
10 жыл бұрын
The main problem is that Tiber Septim could have risen to godhood.... But being a divine is out of the question. You have to be born a divine and be in both the human and elven pantheon. So while he may have become a god, he was by no means a divine.... So, both sides are right. Also, it is hard to say "this proves X cause in Y they show Z" when talking about elder scrolls because they change the lore so much it is not even funny....
@TheOmegau
10 жыл бұрын
Zevran08 Talos, among others, mantles Lorkan, thus becoming part of the consciousness of that Divine. Talos, being the worshiped part, feeds Lorkan with prayer, and does he need it. Should all worship of Talos die, it is believed the world would end.
@elenwen5784
6 жыл бұрын
DJ UtkuSucu if you had the blood of the Dragonborn it would work because the ritual requires DIVINE blood and what do dragons come from? The divine akatosh! So any who came from him would be divine... including Tibet Septim
@Mare_Man
5 жыл бұрын
Mannimarco became divine too, you don't see any elves shoving him down everyone else's throats
@agentwash1
10 жыл бұрын
So it is very sensible to speculate that the Dragonborn of the 4th era may become the next Talos in a sense, he could quite easily call upon the loyalty of the remaining dragons and his Thu'um triumphed over Alduin's and he has the soul of a Dov, and as Paarthurnax said. the will to dominate is in the blood of all Dov
@agentwash1
10 жыл бұрын
I would burn the summerset isle to a cinder for the arrogance of the Thalmor and to show those damn high elves that the age of the elves is over and it is now the age of man
@TheMormonSorceress
10 жыл бұрын
That is the idea I have in mind for my dragonborn, only with a few twist involving my dragonborns past ancestor The Hero of Kvatch. , and how she took down the Thalmor.
@AVADAMS1967
10 жыл бұрын
You guys really brought it this time - left me jones-ing for the next episode. Bravo - And Happy belated Birthday!
@skjaldulfr
10 жыл бұрын
I love what you're doing with the still 3D visuals!
@Narutofan168
10 жыл бұрын
Huh...with the word "heretic" in the title, I was sure you'd go back to make a reference to the alternate version of the would-be emperor's assassination; y'know, the one that indicates that Talos betrayed his friend before the crowning and cut his own throat after....
@Narutofan168
10 жыл бұрын
***** I must keep missing it then.
@richardjordan9245
10 жыл бұрын
I was expecting that too.
@hinaseda2093
8 жыл бұрын
I do believe Talos ascended into Godhood.
@WanderingRurouni92
10 жыл бұрын
SO EPIC! Not only is the Lore awesome, but your voice and commentary is mesmerizing.
@blueberrymuffinmatt
10 жыл бұрын
AHHHHHHhh I'm so excited for the Tribunal. Good job on this video, a very balanced argument and a good summary of such a broad and deep topic.
@tbondful
10 жыл бұрын
The minute you mentioned the tribunal, I wished for a time machine to go forward in time.
@cabates0114
10 жыл бұрын
I must say that this and Ch. 17 has allowed me understand the Altmer so much more. Much thanks for the education, ShoddyCast.
@adamtheclark75
10 жыл бұрын
I have been waiting for a video on the Tribunal since early season 1! Thank you, I'm so excited!
@Fortify2030
9 жыл бұрын
Talos is actually reincarnation of Lorkhan (god of the people). It may sound like a crazy shit, but actually its true. According to official lore Lorkhan/Shor/Shezarr/Sitis reincarnated several times. And each time he was helping people to fight with elves. First time he started war after creration of Nirn and was killed by Akatosh's champion. After that humans were enslaved by elves, but Lorkhan reincarnated as Pelinal Whitestrake and helped Alessia to start rebellion against elves. He was so strong that eliminated the entire army's just by himsels. He was killed during rebellion after he captured White-Gold tower. Later he was ressurected by Dagoth Ur and he started another war with elves (dunmers) and was killed by Nerevar. (Unofficial Lore starts): Hundreds of years passed and he was reincarnated again, as Septim/Talos, emperor of the humans, who conqured Cyrrodil. Thats why in game Talos can give you blessings, after you pray to him. Because he wast just human, but he was Lorkhan/Sitis/Shor, God creator of Nirn. Thalmor elite knows it, thats why they want to eliminate Talos from Gods panteon. They belive that because people worship him, hes powers gets stronger and it makes impossible for souls to leave Nirn (they belive that all souls trapped in Nirn just like in Hell).
@mojonation1487
9 жыл бұрын
***** No, that's Jubal lun-Sul, a Dunmer in the 5th Era.
@mojonation1487
9 жыл бұрын
***** c0da.es :)
@mojonation1487
9 жыл бұрын
***** What is?
@mojonation1487
9 жыл бұрын
***** What does the Last Dragonborn have to do with that?
@mojonation1487
9 жыл бұрын
***** That's what I thought.
@t.trainwiz8861
10 жыл бұрын
What, no mention that you actually meet Talos (along with Zenithar and Mara) in Morrowind?
@razewaker6987
10 жыл бұрын
A little mishap in the information regarding Sovngarde, it's not just an Afterlife for nords, anyone who follows the belief of that afterlife goes there, as was the case with a Redguard known as The Ebony Warrior, who upon the Player reaching level 80, will approach exclaim "You are my last challenge. Only you can send me to Sovngarde with honor. Make your preparations. When you are ready, come find me at my last vigil."
@blu3fityz
7 жыл бұрын
I gotta say...I just flew right through season 1 and now just getting into season 2. Absolutely phenomenal job on these lore videos man! Good on ya!
@GlitchTheF0x
10 жыл бұрын
For some reason when I watch this lore series it makes me want to clean my room up O.o
@gravekeeper101
10 жыл бұрын
Now you know the secret to cleaning your room when your too lazy.
@keithwatson6882
10 жыл бұрын
gravekeeper101 *clears throat* FUS! *sends all the clutter under the bed* Thaaaaaaaat's better.
@Feamelwen
10 жыл бұрын
Totally understand that. I just finally got enough motivation to sweep my room for the first time in weeks while listening to this. Some magic.
@blackkakari
10 жыл бұрын
Keith Watson You put two asterixes around two words and they remained the same. Every time I put aterixes around words, they get bolded. Are you a wizard?
@keithwatson6882
10 жыл бұрын
blackkakari o3o Huh... I have no clue how I did that honestly... I can't remember >.
@Y-all-mofos-need-Talos
9 жыл бұрын
Ulfric actually is a heretic using Talos as a excuse to conquer Skyrim by his own.
@whoknows7968
6 жыл бұрын
But that is a story for another day
@jamesbhollingsworth5452
4 жыл бұрын
How much more then is the emperor heretical that he would trade the god of man for petty peace? Not to mention butchering the sons and daughters of Skyrim as mercenaries to the Thalmor. That the elves may hold rulership over mankind.
@truefenriz
10 жыл бұрын
the tribunal is next? AWESOME!!! Love how accurate this lore series is
@revooHhsoJ92
10 жыл бұрын
You guys are doing a fantastic job with the lore series, this one even gave me goosebumps. Of course now I'm itching to know why Tiber Septim went out of his way to avoid confrontation with the Tribunal. Keep up the good work!
@pepe117343
10 жыл бұрын
ALL HAIL THE MIGHTY TALOS!!!!
@davidmason5719
10 жыл бұрын
Talos is not a god he is but a man and to worship him is blasphemy.
@pepe117343
10 жыл бұрын
Seeing my character is bosmer I guess I just contradicted myself
@pepe117343
10 жыл бұрын
But you've gotta like talos
@davidmason5719
10 жыл бұрын
I'm a Breton and i've lost so much family to your cretin elve brothers.
@heimskr2881
3 жыл бұрын
TALOS THE UNEERING! TALOS THE UNASSAILABLE!
@EvelynNdenial
10 жыл бұрын
they didnt mention that the thalmor just wanted to take hammerfell and launched a decoy invasion of cyrodil to pull imperial forces away from hammerfell. only the elves had such amazing success in cyrodil that they thought they might as well go ahead and try to take out the empire all together. they fought all the way up and took the imperial city and held it for some time before imperial reinforcements from skyrim pushed back surrounded the city and retook it. it was then that the elves questioned the cost of continuing the war and accepted peace on the conditions of the white gold concordat, which includes but definitely was not solely the banning of talos worship. the treaty was meant to destabilize the empire and give the thalmor footholds and methods of spying in all the empires territory, of course these gains were excused to be for enforcing the talos ban. the elves dont care nearly as much about talos as they do about power.
@winterfire567
10 жыл бұрын
This Lore arc wasn't meant for the Thalmor, it was meant to discuss Talos. In the grand scheme of things the Thalmor are inconsequential to his story.
@naveedchaudhry7357
8 жыл бұрын
This is a really cool story, I didn't know there was so much behind the Elder Scrolls series! The story of Talos in itself is fascinating and the way you tell just adds so much more
@APsychoWhale
10 жыл бұрын
I'm glad your looking into the Tribunal, they interest me most when it comes to TES lore!
@randomdragon8245
8 жыл бұрын
If Talos ascended, he is a God of man.
@seenmacmillion2177
8 жыл бұрын
Being a God of man would be a literal contradiction to being a god.
@aviniciussouza100
8 жыл бұрын
+Super Silver 109 no, because it is exactly what Talos is, a mortal turned into the hero god of mankind.
@jusey1
8 жыл бұрын
Technically, Talos was created and never ascended. For the record, Talos as a god never existed for a very long time even after Tiber Septim's death, because Talos, the god, isn't Tiber Septim. Tiber Septim is just one of the three powerful human beings who's soul makes up Talos. It's a long story but the very well know Dragon Break known as the Warp in the West, which is Daggerfall's confirmed ending, was both caused by Talos and is what created Talos in the timeline... It's a lot of time-stuff.
@grandheresiarchdave3262
8 жыл бұрын
Arcturian Heresy is shit.
@ryanapperson8932
8 жыл бұрын
The biggest deficiency I see with this series is that there is not even any MENTION of Wulfharth. Tiber Septim is not Talos. Tiber Septim, Zurin Arctus, and the real Ysmir, Wulfharth of Atmora make up Talos. Talos didn't even exist until Daggerfall when The Underking (Arctus and Wulfharth stuck in one body) reclaimed his soul(s) from the Mantella to become reunited with Hjalti (Septim) and form Talos. The Numidium was powered by the soul of Wulfharth and perhaps Arctus as well because he was Shezzarine: an aspect of Lorkhan. I would recommend the book the Arcturian Heresy for a full depiction of Talos.
@jusey1
8 жыл бұрын
Exactly.
@grandheresiarchdave3262
8 жыл бұрын
Why should I believe the Arcturian Heresy when it's the only source that states that this is what happened?
@ryanapperson8932
8 жыл бұрын
Talos doesn't exist before Daggerfall. Dragon Break, all powers in Illiac Bay get Totem of Tiber Septim, including Underking. And suddenly there's Talos...this didn't just happen out of nowhere.
@neuroinsect1944
7 жыл бұрын
I would believe the Arcturian Heresy because I doubt that the people at Bethesda would have just added it without reason. Plus there is some truth and falsehoods behind all of the lore in TES.
@tanehickey9887
7 жыл бұрын
R: A Person you seem like you know heaps about elder scrolls was wulfhearth dragonborn or was he just a tongue
@agingerbeard
7 жыл бұрын
I keep rewatching this series and learning new things, thanks so much for sharing your passion with us!
@thesecondislander
10 жыл бұрын
For people not in on the "monkey speech", CHIM is literally the in-lore explanation of characters realizing they are in a video game. It started out as a part of joke in an in-game book (36 sermons of Vivec; purposefully written to be almost complete nonsense resembling philosophy) in Morrowind by former Bethesda writer Michael Kirkbride. TES lore buffs have since then taken MK's writings as gospel and it's become something of an in-joke and at times a semi-serious concept throughout the games and in the lore forums.
@MCDragonKing
10 жыл бұрын
The value of a man can be measured by the length of his beard.
@ThePopularNationMore
8 жыл бұрын
I'll start... Long live the Empire!
@nateparker3447
8 жыл бұрын
Death to the Thamlor!
@Vandrexiton
8 жыл бұрын
There are only eight! The thalmor and late Titus Mede II say so!
@garethevans7706
8 жыл бұрын
yes but Akatosh say worship the nine
@jaharned1
8 жыл бұрын
+Grammaticale Mafioso Will you listen to some greedy emperor and egotistical elves or the God of time himself?
@Vandrexiton
8 жыл бұрын
+jaharned1 neither, I'd much rather spend my time in shivering isles
@Tullerman
10 жыл бұрын
Great episode as always and great timing with the announcement of the Talos Shrine Statue (which I have pre-ordered)
@vaultborn9043
7 жыл бұрын
I love when I'm looking for a random ES or Fallout topic and I find a shoddycast vid iv never seen
@XxhenryxX420
10 жыл бұрын
I love your elderscrolls lore!! You do a great job keep it up.
@Taiyama2
10 жыл бұрын
All hail Talos, the god of man!
@MontyRL
3 жыл бұрын
Proof of Talos' divinity is all over Oblivion. Hell, Martin Septim transformed into Akatosh
@DarkAdonisVyers
4 жыл бұрын
Earning your godhood, rather than being granted it, makes Talos a more valid god than the others.
@sunnyd9321
10 жыл бұрын
Talos is a god because when you do the Martin Septim quest in Oblivion, you needed the essence of an Aedra in order to complete the portal, and the only one they had access to was the blood scraps on Talos' mortal armor in Sancre Tor. If he wasn't Aedra, a god, this endeavor would have never worked. End of story.
@Xelamorph67
10 жыл бұрын
Is it possible that the Dovahkiin of the 4th era was Talos reincarnated to restore order at a time when Tamriel was on the brink of destruction? Seems reasonable to assume right?
@TheAtmosfear7
10 жыл бұрын
No. The Dovahkiin is not a reincarnation of Talos, he's a reincarnation of the god Shor. However, as pretty much every Dovahkiin can be seen as reincanations of Shor, you could say that General Talos himself was reincarnation too.
@TheAtmosfear7
10 жыл бұрын
"Wulfharth, Tiber Septim, and Zurin Arctus can no longer be regarded as separate individuals, but part of the same enantiomorphic Oversoul [called "the Three in One"] that makes up the deity known as Talos, filling Shezarr's/Shor's empty place in the Imperial pantheon." From the UESP wiki. Wulfharth himself was a Shezzarine (incarnation of Shor), that we know. However, Talos was too, along with Miraak (though unoficially). So yes, you CAN assume that Wulfharth and Talos were Shezzarine at the same time. Oh and btw Miraak was probably not a Shezzarine, though he is strangely considered a "Dragonborn" (even though that's not the right description for him).
@TacoHawk76
10 жыл бұрын
***** Indeed, the Greybeards informed the main character of Skyrim they are unaware whether he/she is the only Dragonborn of this era
@aimannorzahariwod
10 жыл бұрын
TacoHawk76 I took it as a hint to their latest and fianl DLC, Dragonborn. Miraak being the other i assume (Haven't even finished the story yet lol)
@TheToonpimp
5 жыл бұрын
Lol sure... If Talos was a khajiiti woman or a Altmer male... Yeah alright, sure... buddy truly that is what I call a "reincarnation" of a Breton-Nord mixbreed man... Just no, the Dovahkiin is... Just that... Dovahkiin, hero of that era, last of his kind... Well counting out Miraak of course. He's not Shor, not Tiber Septim, he's not some reincarnation... Edit: Shit.... I'm sorry just noticed this stuff was over 4 years old... Man I feel the fool now.
@countbyme
10 жыл бұрын
your videos get higher and higher in quality every week. Keep up the good work.
@bjj1605
10 жыл бұрын
As for the "violence" aspect, 36 Lessons of Vivec: "reach heaven through violence."
@blue20000
9 жыл бұрын
lorkhan = Prometheus?
@Molabobby
8 жыл бұрын
Na m8 that film were shit
@cruiserx5492
8 жыл бұрын
+Molabobby he means the Greek god, not the movie, which by the way was awesome m8
@Molabobby
8 жыл бұрын
+Bobby Smith u giving me batty chirps bruv I'll knock u out I swear on me mum
@yaumelepire6310
5 жыл бұрын
I'd say it's more like: Lorkhan = Epimetheus Magnus = Prometheus Lorkhan didn't seem to have much forethought, as he did not see the creation of mundus ending with his execution, while Magnus did and just gtfoed.
@artisbreathing
9 жыл бұрын
Gosh, I loved this video. I am SO going to paraphrase the shit out of it in my fanfiction (with due credit, ofc). Finally a logical way to convince my MC (one of my Dragonborns) to side with the Empire, aside from my classic "but Stormcloaks are dicks, yo." Talos wanted unity of the races, and the Stormcloaks with their "Skyrim is for the Nords!" go against his wishes. I think his priority would be more towards his vision than towards people worshiping him.
@tripple-a6031
3 жыл бұрын
The story quest "Blood of the Divines" pretty much confirms that Talos is a god in some way. Not necessarily that he is a higher Aedra like the other 8 divines, but a god without a doubt.
@sabbywins
10 жыл бұрын
Do I sense an episode on the Tribunal?! Keep up the great work ShoddyCast!
@Choppah1000
10 жыл бұрын
God
@k9mouse
10 жыл бұрын
~Rises her paw in agreement~
@KramYEET
10 жыл бұрын
Medusa Mouse Roleplaying - Not even once
@JeffTheWiz1
10 жыл бұрын
Agreed.
@discountplaguedoctor88
6 жыл бұрын
Still a god.
@helpmereach690subscribers3
4 жыл бұрын
Dominion: “Nooo you can’t worship one of your own people as a god! That’s stupid!” Empire: “whos that?” *points at Syrabane, Auri-El, Trinimac, and Y'ffre* Dominion: ...........t....you seee...w-well i-i-it’s...t-that ...that’s c-completely different! Empire: ...really? Dominion: ................... *crosses out section banning talos*
@foulmoodcentral2830
3 жыл бұрын
This is quite good, got a chuckle out of it too. it doesn't help that Trinimac got turned into Daedric stool for that matter. But Malacath's a good Orc-dad all the same.
@DroneTheDruid
6 жыл бұрын
I'm so glad you covered talos' history. I was a little confused on him until now. I love all of these videos
@HamanKarn567
10 жыл бұрын
Almalexia, Sothal Sil and Vivec. Good stuff. Good thing the true flame burns again!
@DrankisDank
7 жыл бұрын
Did I miss something or did he fail to mention that Tiber Septim erased the jungles of Cyrodil from existence with his magical Chim god powers?
@MsWolverine99
10 жыл бұрын
Another great episode. It's great how much work you guys put into those. I don't get why anyone would downvote them. What kind of videos do they upvote at all?
@nerevarine792
10 жыл бұрын
Tribunal next? Fuck yes!...What?...Why are you looking at me like that?
@jeffreyaguilar8028
3 жыл бұрын
It’s interesting really, when the last dragonborn dies he may actually mantle or even become part of Talos since he is an Ysmir just like Pelinal, Wulfharth, Tiber, and Zurin. After all Talos is all three of Wulfharth, Tiber, and Zurin. This lore is interesting and kinda complex.
@dutchpatriot17
3 жыл бұрын
Ysmir is just a title in our case. Also, Talos being an oversoul is just a fan theory.
@TheSiLeNtChAo5
10 жыл бұрын
Loving this lore series
@reviewthis18
10 жыл бұрын
Be he a god or just a man, it matters not. All that truly matters is that there should be not punishment for the worship of any god that does not cause harm to others.
@revooHhsoJ92
10 жыл бұрын
This one gave me goosebumps, you guys do a fantastic job with the lore series. Of course now I'm itching to know why Tiber Septim went out of his way to avoid confrontation with the Tribunal.
@hyperbros96
10 жыл бұрын
YES! CHIM! Great episode, absolutely amazing, and yes as you said if you would include everything then episodes would be hour long, something I was saying in all of your previous episodes. Great job guys.
@hyperbros96
10 жыл бұрын
***** Yeah but I am happy that some of the newer TES lore enthusiast will learn at least something about CHIM. I am pretty sure that someone will google it and stumble upon Sermons and Commentaries, read some beth forums for analysis and learn more about Metaphysics.
@GunsmokeN7
10 жыл бұрын
Well in hindsight, I could see how people don't think Talos is a real God. But, I recall the Divine Crusader using "The Blessing of Talos" spell to battle Umaril the Unfeathered in the sky above. So suck it Altmari Dominion.
@willreaver1425
10 жыл бұрын
Very Diplomatic of you
@lilHippo
10 жыл бұрын
i also recall the great divine crusader going to many caves and dungeons of cyriadell and killing all inside. even the monks felt his wrath. Monk: oh who is that, is that you Stenddar? Me (Knight of the 9 Divine): No its me, the Great raider of dungeons and such ... please pray to you favorite god... you will need him
@austinherby9218
10 жыл бұрын
***** How do the people of Tamriel know of the divines? Because the divines make themselves apparent. That, and their counter parts, the Daedra refer to them all the time, and the Daedra love interacting with mortal lives.
@Nonamearisto
10 жыл бұрын
lilHippo That sort of random killing in Oblivion would prevent one from gaining blessings at a chapel.
@dissentinel8
10 жыл бұрын
er, "Aldmeri Domion" Because the Aldmer were ancient elves that the mer on Tamriel are descended from.
@AeronHale
10 жыл бұрын
Gods are immortal beings of massive power, therefor Talos does qualify as a god. as for the Thalmor they are just some annoying pricks.
@death299
10 жыл бұрын
true...but they do have a point the Aedra and Deadra are both the same "race" the eight divine were based off of the Aedra who gave of themselves to form everything they are what is deemed as the "true" gods the Deadra have the same level of power and are deemed "false" gods the only true difference between the two being the Aedra forged mundus while the Deadra did not Talos may..or may not be a god as for if he is a "true" or "false" god is more important when it comes to the Thalmor conflict take the tribunal they were gods..but at the same time they weren't they had that power yes...but by their own admission it was not and never would truly be theirs and the moment the enchantments on the heart were broken so too was their power hence they were never anything more than false gods it was never explained how talos became a god (or truly if he even did) making the conflict more about that rather than a mortal attaining godhood it's the same reason they banned deadric worship even though the Deadra and the Aedra are essentially brothers and sisters (though they don't have real genders) and that was what they banned...not so much belief in him but the worship of him believe he (just like the Dedra) is a good all you like just don't worship him in any way (just like the Deadra)
@AeronHale
10 жыл бұрын
also according to TES lore the Nerevarine is immortal and by the endgame incredibly powerful Does that make the nerevarine a god? there are many characters in TES lore that can lay claim to the title of god, Alduin being a prime subject as well as Harkon and and perhaps even The Dovahkiin... so maybe my idea of godhood is a bit flawed.
@death299
10 жыл бұрын
aron hale Dovahs are a weird concept technically they are mortal..yet they are immortal as in the Dovahkiin can kill them which presumably since the dovahkiin is supposed to merely have the soul of a dragon (and therefore it's ability to absorb their soul..killing them) that all dragons have the capability of of true death (something a god can never experience) Nerevarine isn't actually powerful..he's blessed by azura (always thought that plot played out more as azura being pissy and wanting you to take revenge...but idk...more a personal feeling i have and likely does not match lore) Talos may be a god....or he like the tribunal may have found a way to tap into the immense power that the "gods" have and to them he still looks like nothing more than a child playing a superhero in the backyard cute and harmless so why waste time removing hope from some and crushing what happiness he has found?
@ayleidking5251
10 жыл бұрын
josh spradling The dovahkiin absorbs the soul of the dragon not destroys it so they live on through him like the high lander theory.
@death299
10 жыл бұрын
Nicholas Fincannon ahh but dovahkiins can die eve the "first" born with a dragons soul only survived until skyrim due to a prince (god) choosing to keep him around dragonborns age...and die like any mortal dragons do not have death in their natural cycle but can indeed be killed Alduin being the exception (he's an immortal SoB (all the events of skyrim did was postpone when the world ends..hence why you can never absorb his soul no matter how hard you try)
@Serpenti95
10 жыл бұрын
Excellent video, as always! The arguments for why Talos could be considered a God was well thought out and honestly, I haven't actually thought about them at all. But now they seem obvious... But yet, I don't there's an 100 % certainty that Talos is a God, although that's also pretty much the whole TES lore in a nutshell (about not being 100 % certainty, which is one of the reason I completely love TES lore).
@ajzeak9317
10 жыл бұрын
I love this it gives me a look of tamriels past and tells me all of the Heroes of the past!
@symonjones43
9 жыл бұрын
TALOS!!! MIGHTY TALOS IS THE ONE TRUE GOD OF MAN!! -hiemsker skyrim 4E 121
@symonjones43
9 жыл бұрын
***** woops
@356MONKEYMAN
10 жыл бұрын
WOOT TRIBUNAL!
@dcarbone94
10 жыл бұрын
Another master piece by shoddycast
@Samson9981
10 жыл бұрын
I've enjoyed this series very much. I almost feel like I'm watching a real historical documentary. Except it's based on a game series. Very well done.
@bkr1895
9 жыл бұрын
Ysmir will come again and will strike down the heretical high elves
@BelleroseQC
9 жыл бұрын
If anyone's a heretic, it is the barbaric, ignorant Talos worshippers.
@bkr1895
9 жыл бұрын
You're just all mad because Talos conquered all of the pitiful Mer
@BelleroseQC
9 жыл бұрын
Vladimir Lenin And now Talos worshippers are being put to the sword, and there isn't a thing you can do about it.
@BelleroseQC
9 жыл бұрын
Vladimir Lenin It takes one knife to kill a Dragonborn, they aren't indestructible, you know.
@bkr1895
9 жыл бұрын
Huh one knife, but it seems the dragonborn have an affinity for not dying and I don't see anybody killing him anytime soon. The only thing that can kill a dragonborn is time itself. Ysmir was born of Akatosh and upon his death he ascended to join him. Ascending to divinity is not a crazy thing just an era ago the Hero of Kvatch served Sheogorath unshackling his Jyggalag form and in reward the hero became the Mad God himself, I don't see the High Elves crusading about that.
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