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@scourge8097
Жыл бұрын
I just found this guy, "Destiny," or "Stephen," as the one women who debated him kept calling him to annoy him...but goddamn is it nice to find a guy who just has common sense. I've thought I was progressive...until they lost their fucking minds. I guess I'm liberal, but I can see the flaws in their ideology. I don't get why we have to hate our own country or this self flagellation for decrying America and just handing the right the mantle of being "Patriots." Fuck, I'm not even wording that well, but Destiny articulates his thoughts in a manner in which I agree about 95% of the time. And I love the people who mock him for his private lifestyle. That's just losing the debate RIGHT there. Also, only seen his Wife from his videos, but she seems like a sweetheart and it's incredible how much she is attacked for being close to Destiny.
@mikehawk408
Жыл бұрын
Lstiny is a cuck who has bad takes on foreign policy. Taiwan is Chinese territory.
@kokushibyō-f9i
Жыл бұрын
Destiny I need you to understand that western Europe is getting allot of it's politics from the US.
@mikehawk408
Жыл бұрын
@@kokushibyō-f9i Destiny is a classic neoliberal pig who thinks that the US can do no wrong.
@mgod20s90
Жыл бұрын
I have a question without taking sides: Is it beneficial to consider historical context in political controversies, like Ukraine, Palestine, or Taiwan? For instance, in the case of Ukraine, some argue that despite Russia's aggression, the conflict could lead to long-term benefits. Ukraine's struggle with corruption and internal political conflicts could be addressed, potentially paving the way for democracy and stronger ties with NATO. However, it's important to question whether we should exclude moral arguments based on history from these discussions. Moreover, I believe empathy is often lacking in destiny's consideration of historical facts. What are your thoughts on this?
@ZNE1323
Жыл бұрын
Ethan was hiding his true power level all along
@modustrollens4806
Жыл бұрын
Loool best comment so far
@harryb12993
Жыл бұрын
He was trojan horsing Hasan the whole time
@ThinWhiteLuke
Жыл бұрын
@@harryb12993like the condom. He was in Hasan’s ass 😂 completely “intellectually outpaced” Hasan.
@randalthor2859
Жыл бұрын
Que Vegeta: *"His IQ level is Over ONE HUNDRED!"*
@5milemacc737
Жыл бұрын
I hit the highway 🛣️ Making money the Kiein Way 🇮🇱 🎶 💵
@susfringgaming4018
Жыл бұрын
The nerve of Hassan to say that China's formal incorporation of Hong Kong into China hasn't been devastating when literally all of the pro-democracy and pro western policymakers have either resigned or been arrested is insane.
@pauls4235
Жыл бұрын
Can someone find out why he unnaturally defends and glorifies china at every turn
@BingonSteyen
Жыл бұрын
@pauls4235 china's communist, and he would never shit talk his commie daddies
@alpaca6462
Жыл бұрын
@@pauls4235unironically commie
@randalthor2859
Жыл бұрын
@@pauls4235I'd imagine you can check his bank records.
@smashdioconnel1960
Жыл бұрын
@@pauls4235Hate to say this because it sounds so red scare but China is the jewel of the socialist eye, the command economy and China's sheer production levels makes them the ideal socialist bastion if you can just over look the genocide, organ harvesting, other human rights violations, the treatment of most the lower class, and general incompetence 😂
@justaname109
Жыл бұрын
Hasan’s face….its like when a student is unprepared and tries to explain the plot of a book they never read.
@ei1864
Жыл бұрын
Very accurate
@Corgiking521
Жыл бұрын
😂 this is so accurate listening to him stumbling over his words
@raneenah3240
Жыл бұрын
"it's aight, overrated af But you know what though... "
@justaname109
Жыл бұрын
@@ataridc 🤣🤣🤣 except his answer usually isn’t very climactic either
@chung-jenweng6454
Жыл бұрын
"I am sorry, I don't know enough about Taiwan to form a good opinion." There, Easy
@WhatsUpWithIan
Жыл бұрын
The complete lack of confidence in Hasan’s voice in this entire conversation was truly something to behold.
@hegeliankid1226
Жыл бұрын
Having chat validating your echo chamber is not real life. Ethan is not even literate or manages his own language enough to develop his questions but you can see the fragility of reaction streamer’s’ personalities
@genericsocks7542
6 ай бұрын
@@hegeliankid1226lmao seriously, Hasan is so so far from being open to his views changing should sufficient evidence present itself that he won’t even acknowledge any weaknesses in his arguments. He is trapped in his current Uber lefty champagne socialist mindset by the fact that he would lose his rabid audience that allows him to make tons of money. So regardless of what he thinks he can never change.
@TheKwod
5 ай бұрын
He urinated in his own mouth
@TheKwod
5 ай бұрын
@@hegeliankid1226Ethan is a nonchalant weirdo with AIDS
@justintsui2783
Жыл бұрын
I'm from Hong Kong, and I find it truly baffling that Hasan can make such takes while getting almost every basic fact about Taiwan, HK and China wrong.
@MrSlaughterrific
Жыл бұрын
Hasan doesn't have real opinions. You can't take him seriously when he doesn't even know what he's talking about
@beckembrown7002
Жыл бұрын
Sure American imperialist
@Omnip073n77
Жыл бұрын
His #1 defense is "They have Tier 1 cities".
@ranfak
Жыл бұрын
He was not wrong on HK come on .
@snnnaaaaaakeeeee4470
Жыл бұрын
@@beckembrown7002Where are you from? If it is America you are very welcome to leave (not to the UK though please, we have enough morons here already).
@trashdoge1217
Жыл бұрын
The amount of glazing hasan does to a country with eradication and work camps IS CRAZY
@Jst.a.Normal.Bottle.of.Mustard
Жыл бұрын
But they are communist and not white so he doesnt care
@theowainwright7406
Жыл бұрын
Wonder what will happen when he finds out lots of Chinese people are very racist and xenophobic
@theowainwright7406
Жыл бұрын
(Not their fault tho their state run media pushes xenophobia a lot)
@MrsNeedlemouse
Жыл бұрын
As a lefty, I find Hasan's constant defense of imperialism to be deeply disturbing, it's like he has no values. It's even worse when he begins to justify it with ethnic ties like we're coming into the fourth Reich.
@Taireyn
Жыл бұрын
This is by far the biggest reason why I dislike him, his China defense mode is some subhuman behavior
@haonyoass9556
Жыл бұрын
Destiny is clearly bitter toward hasan in so many ways, but he’s also 100% right about him, more than anyone else
@whogotthesushi3897
Жыл бұрын
Lol this is probably the most accurate view of destiny,
@ussassu
Жыл бұрын
Destiny is clearly bitter toward hasan in so many ways.*
@rosssivertson6339
Жыл бұрын
I don't agree with alot either one of them have to say or believe but Destiny deserves to be the one making the money that Hassan is making which is probably where the bitterness stems from.
@HeyIntegrity
11 ай бұрын
@@rosssivertson6339Why?
@rosssivertson6339
11 ай бұрын
Because I don't think Hassan actually believes or really cares about any of the stuff he rants about It's all about the money for him Destiny on the other hand. All of this is his passion and I think he does care
@jdjenk04
Жыл бұрын
How does Hasan not feel embarrassed when he gives answers to questions like “is Taiwan independent?” and how his fans don’t get secondhand embarrassment from it
@zym6687
Жыл бұрын
Embarrassment requires a level of self-awareness above that of a rock.
@silver474
10 ай бұрын
He can’t get that -alleged~ money from jhina if he says Taiwan is it’s own independent county. Like every other white monkey tankie
@ProCoRat
Жыл бұрын
Ethan is waaay smarter than he appears. He just does not care to be informed about things that disinterest him. He is the type to say the Capital of Austria is Sydney, but he also keeps defeating foes in debates and absorbing their hairlines.
@jacob7649
Жыл бұрын
Low hanging fruit
@cantflipforship
Жыл бұрын
Absorbing their hairlines 😂
@credman
Жыл бұрын
Ethan's a dumb person's idea of a dumb person.
@leftypaws1131
Жыл бұрын
😂
@KyleMacSkill
Жыл бұрын
He's not dumb he's a disingenuous grifter, so he picks and chooses when to use an unbiased opinion on things
@ThomasG84
Жыл бұрын
The irony of Ethan teaming up with Hasan to make his podcast a bit more politically intellectual and that goal is only achieved when Ethan finally works out that Hasan hasn’t a clue what he is on about so that when Ethan finally pushes back, his podcast goal is finally realised.
@jimmyhart3191
Жыл бұрын
Problem is Hasan does know what he’s talking about, he explained very clearly why the topic is sensitive but that the current situation benefits all parties
@ThomasG84
Жыл бұрын
@@jimmyhart3191 “Problem is Hasan knows what he is talking about”…. Firstly he doesn’t and secondly, if he did, how can that be a problem? You might want to consider your words more wisely haha
@jimmyhart3191
Жыл бұрын
@@ThomasG84 Jesus Christ I should have known it was a bad idea commenting on a destiny video, I’m leaving debate club and returning to the real world
@ThomasG84
Жыл бұрын
@@jimmyhart3191 as a matter of sensible practice if you’re not going to make any sense it’s a bad idea to comment anywhere. Lesson learned. Good luck
@napoleondynamite6993
4 ай бұрын
@@ThomasG84yes to this 👆
@johnleoks7642
Жыл бұрын
Ethan is growing on me. He's taken so many dubs lately. He destroyed Pearl, xQc and Hasan (twice).
@rotemtomhagbi1937
Жыл бұрын
When the grift doesn't work. You go back to the roots.
@kirknichols178
Жыл бұрын
I’m out of the loop. What was going on with XQC? What was his take that Ethan called him out on?
@Taireyn
Жыл бұрын
@@kirknichols178 Felix didn't perform good on their debate about react content
@MicrowavedFurby
Жыл бұрын
He's destroyed other people that came on too
@flightrisk1047
Жыл бұрын
I genuinely cannot think of three easier layups that debating these mfs 💀
@sisu9663
Жыл бұрын
I've always thought that Ethan can ask great, incisive questions without being overly accusatory. He's a skilled conversationalist
@SirMcLowen
11 ай бұрын
i think all can agree Ethan has that way which is why most used to like h3h3 content, but its just down spiral to i dont know what happen at all
@XenVar2
10 ай бұрын
Bill Burr would disagree.
@harold3165
9 ай бұрын
Most of the time he sucks
@AxleTrade
9 ай бұрын
I don't like what Ethan ended up becoming but he can hold his own when it comes to certain topics.
@whitesedan
Жыл бұрын
Ethan is making a full three point 180 type of turn in real time from ultra super dumbass to a good host with hard questions and I’m loving it
@Dieci-9
Жыл бұрын
The redemption arc. Though, we're never getting back to the Ethan and Hila when h3h3 was making videos about dumb/cringe stuff.
@theowainwright7406
Жыл бұрын
Ethan performs better agains his friends than he does against people he doesn’t know personally
@THECRIMSONWITHIN
Жыл бұрын
@@theowainwright7406an interesting dynamic which is inherent in most society.
@AndrewCreel
Жыл бұрын
Slow down there, buddy
@bw2020
Жыл бұрын
Make a list of people who he has debated; some random dude from a cult, Ollie London, a 22 year old grindset TikToker, and H. Pearl Davis. Quite the line up of interlocutors.
@MicrowavedFurby
Жыл бұрын
It's hilarious how tough Hasan tries to seem when talking to his chat but runs away from every debate with people who know what they're talking about.
@chung-jenweng6454
Жыл бұрын
His chat loved his take "You know, the people who rob the store redistribute the wealth and help the community" is his latest coping on all the day time clean out of LA. His fans gonna ate it up no sweat with their own raltionalization
@kap1618
Жыл бұрын
Why do you think Hasan rags on "Debate perverts?" He knows that other lefties would call him out on his cr*ppy foreign policy takes.
@Flooding474
10 ай бұрын
Dooood Hasan _loves_ yelling at grey names in his chat. So performative.
@jsmith434w
10 ай бұрын
LOL hilarious take but not completely wrong either. maybe a very optimistic rationalization@@chung-jenweng6454
@Oyster--
Жыл бұрын
"They call it 'strategic ambiguity,' which I call lying" - Hasan, whose opinion on Taiwan's independence is strategically ambiguous
@JS-lq3bh
Жыл бұрын
He might not be super educated in some areas but Ethan’s SO much smarter than he’s given credit for
@LiiRAE.
Жыл бұрын
he's having his destiny arc
@glowindark64
Жыл бұрын
Bands a make her dance 😮
@jacob7649
Жыл бұрын
😐
@Bauhausist
Жыл бұрын
Imagine being so dumb you make Ethan look like a genius.
@kenavr
Жыл бұрын
yeah that was always my assessment. He isn't stupid, but just not educated on a lot of stuff (like the vast majority of people on this planet). More often than not he gives the "normie" take, which especially today is a lot better or at least refreshing when you normally consume "political streamers" who think nuance and opposing views are something to be destroyed.
@TriFekt
Жыл бұрын
Ethan isn't dumb, he's just disingenuous sometimes and if you do it often enough people will perceive you as stupid.
@helloMRdj1
Жыл бұрын
For me he always struck as intelligent, his content nonetheless got very boring when he started to podcast.
@brian1436
Жыл бұрын
Ethan is a real person. Pretty rare for someone in his position.
@DirtCobaine
Жыл бұрын
Very true. He also used to play himself up as a dumb goofy guy. Which is like a way of having an excuse to cop out.
@jimmcnicholas9670
Жыл бұрын
I cant think of an example of when ethan has been disingenuous. Any examples
@TheRealAb216
Жыл бұрын
@@DirtCobainenah it's to get people to let their guard down
@GT-qv1gl
Жыл бұрын
Said it before and I'll say it again. Ethan is a master at shutting down people who are bullshitting. That was the center of most of his H3H3 content before the podcast. It's why Muta made 1 mistake and got EVISCERATED by Ethan.
@MrPumaralant
Жыл бұрын
when was muta crushed by ethan?
@hellsjamfleas
Жыл бұрын
@@MrPumaralantAbout 3 years ago Ethan was getting widely dragged all over the internet. It was mostly that he had embraced leftist politics and was confrontational with his right leaning fans. He also went to war with Keemstar, and Ethan picks fights a lot anyway so he had plenty of influential enemies. A lot of accusations that had been made over the years,they started getting added into attack videos. Ethan had initially just ignored them but as the criticism got louder he made the response videos "addressing gokunaru" and "everybody hates Ethan" . He had many receipts and accepted some of the less substantial criticism. They were good apologies. Muta had repeated a load of slander about Ethan that was easy to disprove and Ethan targeted the second video at him. Muta had to apologize and remove his video.
@MrPumaralant
Жыл бұрын
@@hellsjamfleas Thanks! I didnt know that.
@jonovah
Жыл бұрын
Bill Burr enters the room
@HeyIntegrity
11 ай бұрын
@@hellsjamfleaswhat did he crush?
@alyssaxxy
Жыл бұрын
I think Ethan’s eyes were opened when Hasan had terrible takes on DMCA and saw himself what a violator he actually is. That was the first thing his little ears perked up at bc he genuinely knows what he’s talking about with that topic. Every since then, curtains been pulled back. I’m proud of the guy. He’s getting fit and getting lit🔥 😂
@sarahcoleman3598
Жыл бұрын
As an American living in Taiwan, hearing Hasan say that Taiwan is currently “One Country, Two Systems” is absurd. This is wording that comes directly from the agreement between Hong Kong and China that went into effect in 1997. “One Country, Two Systems” is the exact thing that China is calling for, and Taiwanese people outright reject, as they have seen the length to which the CCP respects the whole “Two systems” part of that. Taiwan and China are not one country, and Ethan is exactly correct in almost all of this. Almost no one here wants anything to do with China. This place looks like, feels like, and *is* a different country in ways not dissimilar to the UK and America.
@agusace
Жыл бұрын
That was exactly what i was thinking hearing hasan. This dude has no real grasp on history, and just spits out whatever crosses his mind
@rree9550
Жыл бұрын
@@agusace it's beyond infuriating but doesn't prevent him from commenting anything and everything
@chinchillatwitch7234
Жыл бұрын
Its so weird to see Hasan repeating litteral CCP talking points. I wonder if he just mixed things up with Hong Kong, or if he genuinely thinks that ''one country, two systems'' is a good idea for Taiwan.
@ThinWhiteLuke
Жыл бұрын
I have a question, you know how Hong Kong speak a different type of Chinese? Cantonese right? Mainland China speak Mandarin, right? Does Taiwan have their own version of Chinese as well? Edit: I’m sure their are 100s of dialects and languages within Mainland China, im not implying everyone their speaks just Mandarin, just that Mandarin is the official language. People in Inner Mongolia for example probably speak Mongolian, at least to some extent
@nihil4361
Жыл бұрын
@@ThinWhiteLukeTaiwan mandarin
@harryb12993
Жыл бұрын
Ethan has been building up this image of incompetency and allying with Hasan for the ultimate trojan horse.
@sugartoothYT
Жыл бұрын
That would be funny.
@robertwoodson1701
Жыл бұрын
best comments fs
@temdasarah
10 ай бұрын
God willing!
@jpelektrk
Жыл бұрын
Ethan is just a great interviewer. He likes to ask challenging questions and gives the person room to answer his questions and time to explain themselves.
@skullingtonfx4441
Жыл бұрын
He's like early Joe Rogan in some ways
@qualitydyl7088
Жыл бұрын
@@skullingtonfx4441 ethans late dawg lmaoo
@bobinasack
10 ай бұрын
@@skullingtonfx4441lmfaoooo
@RobW2K10
Жыл бұрын
As the European in the comments, I'd like to say that supporting Ukraine isn't devisive. Thank you Hasan for sounding like an ejit once more
@cx3622
Жыл бұрын
It definetly is. Outside of the European Union, you will get many different opinions. Europe doesn't only mean France and Germany.
@Vosk21
Жыл бұрын
as an american who supports Ukraine I can tell you it is a highly divisive position to hold, encountering more detractors every day from the left and the right.
@wlodek8757
Жыл бұрын
@@cx3622 its not only france and germany though. Old soviet block countries like poland and so on support ukraine in majority aswell
@cx3622
Жыл бұрын
@@wlodek8757 Poland is in the EU. Of course it does.
@wlodek8757
Жыл бұрын
@@cx3622 not really, its more about our history with russia than being part of EU
@moos1n
Жыл бұрын
Ethan isn't dumb, I just genuinely think he is sometimes being very emotional and disingenuous, which is funny, especially if you agree with him, but aggravating for people who take the topic seriously. He has good takes and bad like anyone else, I thought this for a long time before buying into the idea he was actually just stupid after seeing one too many bad Leftovers clips, but honestly, after the xQc debate and Hasan debates, I think I've re-centered my opinion on him.
@ThalassicMeasure
Жыл бұрын
Here's a secret: Ethan is not an idiot. Hasan very often is.
@Sleepytechnician
Жыл бұрын
Ethan falls to the trap of “no one is disagreeing, so I can say whatever!” He’s not dumb but he lets himself get into a cycle of not thinking when there isn’t legitimate pushback forcing him to take a moment to think.
@maxsmith8196
Жыл бұрын
A month a go this comment section would be shitting equally hard on both.
@jacob7649
Жыл бұрын
@@Sleepytechnician nope he's just dumb
@Vosk21
Жыл бұрын
I don't buy Hasan being an idiot at this point, he's poisoned too many wells of thought. I think he's deliberately malicious and harbors a deep resentment for America, with special focus on white ppl. The way he can flit between 'ACAB' while simultaneously making 'blood and soil' arguments regarding taiwan indicates a far deeper dissonance that I just can't attribute to ignorance. Tankies hold way more political sway in LA than you would think, and when you're wealthy money becomes less valuable than influence over like-minded organizations/actors
@JosefZeethuven
Жыл бұрын
@@maxsmith8196 Its almost like ethan is showing a change in behavior. Now this might be a crazy thing to your braindead socialist brain but people can change
@gamblorrr
Жыл бұрын
That flashback to Hasan's Ukraine takes is wild. How he didn't get more flak for that surprises me.
@LS-jv9hp
Жыл бұрын
Well the average twitch streamer is brain dead and his audience it filled with scum who'd happily genocide you if you don't fit into their little box of totalitarianism.
@badwolf3618
Жыл бұрын
He doesnt get the flak he deserves because: 1. He's hot and charismatic 2. The Left is just as incapable/unwilling of calling out their own bad faith actors as the Right (I say this as a Leftist myself) 3. The Left, despite their current political and social momentum/institutional-backing, thrives on being counter-culture and contrarians. So people like Hasan can get away with his Ukraine takes, as long as he somehow connects it to America and the West being evil, because he then tickles the contrarian nerve that lots of Lefties have.
@mikehawk408
Жыл бұрын
Hasan was right about Ukraine. Online neoliberals are performative as hell when it comes to the Ukraine war. Why would they genuinely care about a conflict that has no direct impact on their lives?
@BuckBuckle
Жыл бұрын
He doesn't get flak for it because his audience agrees with it. They're basically all tankies who will take any side that opposes the US, no matter what. These people would back WWII Germany if it happened today.
@mikehawk408
Жыл бұрын
@@BuckBuckle Neoliberals would have supported fascist Nazi Germany (neoliberals frequently back fascists). People like Destiny are too soft when it comes to Nazis.
@阿信-u7y
Жыл бұрын
as someone from Taiwan it sucks how everyone in the west speak on our behalf with no actual understanding of the situation.
@Ivan-qf4mt
Жыл бұрын
Ethan can be such a bloodhound when it is a topic he is knowledgeable in. It is like trying debating Joe Rogan on weed. Props to muh boi Ethan.
@VikJo
Жыл бұрын
That's a great anology!
@cx3622
Жыл бұрын
Wdym debating joe rogan on weed haha, i'm curious what that analogy means
@zeroshadowzs
Жыл бұрын
@cx3622 Joe Rogan isn't always super informed on topics brought up on his show since his brand is "regular dude", but when it comes to weed he's super informed and he will switch from just letting the guest say whatever to really holding their feet to the fire.
@cx3622
Жыл бұрын
@@zeroshadowzs ahh i see now, thanks for the explanation!
@plantbasedavid
Жыл бұрын
When you said "on weed," I think most people (including me) thought you meant "high on weed" xD
@Exoticccc_
10 ай бұрын
The foreshadowing of Ethan bringing up Israel v Palestine and Hasan saying "you don't want to go down that rabbit hole."
@RonMi95
3 ай бұрын
You can argue for the annexation of the west bank purely using Hasan clips lol I mean Russians did settler colonialism in the Baltics too
@flower5185
Жыл бұрын
I don't understand why people are surprised Ethan is smart. Everyone says dumb shit from time to time but Ethan is typically pretty reasonable if you actually listen to him instead of watching uncharitable clips
@allisoncastle
10 ай бұрын
Lol yesss 👏👏👏 I’m guessing most of these people shocked out of their minds that Ethan is intelligent never ACTUALLY watched Ethan in the past like 7 years and only those insanely dishonestly framed clips
@SeptunoYT
Жыл бұрын
I love the Ethan acceptance. Ive watched the h3 podcast and Destiny as my regulars for a few years now. Imagine my disappointment when Ethan brought Hasan on, and Destiny started hating on Ethan. I don’t literally cant watch the episodes Hasan is on. I’m glad that Ethan is straying from Hasan’s insanity. And Im glad Destiny is gaining some faith in Ethan because I think he is a genuinely smart guy who could care less to really think over politics before making heated points.
@falco830
Жыл бұрын
I don’t care to much for Ethan, but I totally agree with what your saying.
@forzer456
Жыл бұрын
How can you be disappointed when Hasan was brought on when Ethan himself has done some shitty things. He has doxxed, spread misinformation/accusations, and acted in ignorance or pure incompetence. His treatment of aba and preach is already a red flag, mischaracterising them as transphobes and suggesting they know nothing about their own community and coming up from a lower social economical background. You can watch whoever but Ethan without Hasan has made his own mess.
@Frish__
Жыл бұрын
nah ethan is a bad person
@asimplewizard
Жыл бұрын
@@Frish__what has he done that makes him a bad person? Worst I've seen was some bad decisions during his podcast and he occasionally acts stupid instead of accepting he's wrong. I know we expect the people on screen to always be perfect, but those are pretty normal human traits.
@Zach-cn4lb
Жыл бұрын
@@asimplewizard the big one for me is hosting and supporting false sexual allegations against Fresh and Fit on his podcast just because he disliked them, and also lashing out against people like calling Aba and Preach transphobic. He's not a demon, but past actions make him seem pretty spiteful and dishonest at times
@back2back379
11 ай бұрын
Hasan likes to provide "answers," he's narcissistic to the point that he thinks he has all the answers. Ethan understands this about Hasan, while also understanding that in a debate, it's better to ask questions using the tried and proven socratic method. Hasan lost the debate before it even began.
@daniellong7926
Жыл бұрын
Ethan Is actually pretty smart. He can do really great interviews too. It's just when he doesn't care it really shows.
@FlCl3000
Жыл бұрын
I love that Ethan had to change the subject because his politics guy couldn’t answer questions and roll with political discourse
@StevenSenile
Жыл бұрын
This isn't the "Leftovers" podcast anymore. It's the frenemies podcast 💀
@TillThenPlease
Жыл бұрын
I love the Destiny/Ethan arc that's developing... without Ethan even knowing.
@anonymous-yf6ur
Жыл бұрын
I think we are finally seeing Ethan wake up and become a person with his own opinion rather than the coward that he tried to be. I don't necessarily agree with Ethan but I respect this version of Ethan because he feels like a real person.
@Anonymous-ks8el
Жыл бұрын
Taiwan is the easiest topic to take a stance on, but Hasan is rambling harder than ever He is a tanky
@badwolf3618
Жыл бұрын
It amazes me how much socialists/tankies/communist sympathizers will resent it when conservatives accuse the Left of being the first step towards Communism, or they will resent it when conservatives accuse the Left of ultimately wanting an authoritarian state with mass censorship..... But then do everything possible to avoid criticizing China. I am on the Left, but I recognize that any political ideology can be taken too far, and it drives me crazy when radical Leftists like Hasan give conservatives all the ammo they need to connect anything we do to trying to implement communism. Hasan is such a great example of someone who engages in politics for his personal edification rather than an honest pursuit of truth.
@Lexyboogie
Жыл бұрын
The Ukraine invasion really exposed the cracks in Hasan's logic and reasoning for me personally. I have been increasingly unimpressed by his political takes since then. If he wants to continue to be taken seriously as non-robotic political commentator, he really needs to start deconstructing his views and start doing the work. Even though there's certainly some unnecessary vitriol from Destiny's side towards him, I totally agree with Destiny's point that Hasan is pretty much just a mouthpiece for modern American progressivism and he will do anything it takes to not alienate those people.
@TheAliceQuo
Жыл бұрын
"unnecessary vitriol" Shit, where?
@mikehawk408
Жыл бұрын
Ukraine should have acquired nukes if it didn't want to get invaded lol. The conflict should be just between Ukraine and Russia. However, the US just can't resist the urge to get involved in a foreign conflict.
@zym6687
Жыл бұрын
@@TheAliceQuo Well you know, all vitriol is unnecessary and the best way to change someone's opinions is to placate them by being agreeable.
@Vosk21
Жыл бұрын
nobody who makes blood and soil arguments for china could receive 'unnecessary vitriol" imo. unless you think fascists can just divorce themselves from their reputation?
@goolumf
Жыл бұрын
Same here. Got into Hasan for his shitting on the alt right content, unimpressed with his foreign policy. He hasn’t given any actual salient insight in years.I think he read theory originally, then stopped after he got popular, and now gets his info from twitter
@varun009
Жыл бұрын
I never thought Ethan was an idiot but I do know that most people think he doesn't think for himself. He's more authentic in that respect than Hasan is. Ethan has no sympathy for imperialism just because it has a fan club.
@jonathanhughes8679
10 ай бұрын
Yet he refuses to accept that Israel had a historical record of being there since 8k years.
@fnraven7917
Жыл бұрын
Drunken master debater is actually a sick pseudonym to have. Actually fits Ethan too.
@Yambag
Жыл бұрын
I hate him but you're right it's a sick moniker 😂
@hazzardalsohazzard2624
Жыл бұрын
If Taiwan is historically part of China and so they should be the same country, then why shouldn't Ireland be part of Britain?
@SacredCASHcow
Жыл бұрын
it's not logic. China taking Taiwan is purely about power and flexing the same way North Korea enjoys shooting rockets into the ocean or Russia invading Ukraine. Reasons? There are no REAL reasons.
@gogomarioloshi
Жыл бұрын
Right? Why not make most of Europe part of Italy?
@freethinker810
2 ай бұрын
Ireland won a war against Britain and declared independence, Taiwan on the other hand never had a war of independence, and never declared independence. until now, Taiwan's official name is still "Republic of China", and their constitution says "our territory include both mainland China and Taiwan province".
@KanderUdon
2 ай бұрын
@@freethinker810uh taiwan did fight a war against china they just lost. The reason they say that is because they claim that the Communist party is illegitimate and the nationalists are the true “Chinese government”
@TheJiggity1
Жыл бұрын
Ethan/Destiny bridge soon to come?
@kumar01234
Жыл бұрын
Probably on off the rails or his twitch stream possibly and probably when Dan is out. If Hasan is there then there is no interview but Dan maybe open to it but probably not
@cjsites
Жыл бұрын
Hassan really does deserve the audience of 12 year olds he streams for.
@roberteriksen6434
Жыл бұрын
You think he deserves an army of loyal 12 year old's ready to donate every cent of their parent's wallet ? I would love an audience like that.
@snnnaaaaaakeeeee4470
Жыл бұрын
@@roberteriksen6434Same. As dumb and clown-able he is, he is still making a ridiculous amount of money with almost zero effort. Wish that was me. Worthy sacrifice.
@carlstevenson709
Жыл бұрын
"Hong Kong?!? What's a Hong Kong? Is that the monkey on the empire State building?"
@christophernoneya4635
Жыл бұрын
Hasan made a nationalist arguement, "taiwan and china are both Han Chinese" with the implication being they should be a single country. "Han" chinese unity is a myth too, theres a major cultural divide between mandarin and cantonese speakers (north/south), let alone within smaller splintering within these groups
@LS-jv9hp
Жыл бұрын
I'd absolutely LOVE too see his argument used on the UK. His argument if consistent would be against a united Ireland.
@REDDAWNproject
26 күн бұрын
Han chinese is literally used the same way as the Nazis used Germanic ties for czechoslovakia, austria and poland. Russia does the same in ukraine.
@Doozy_Titter
Жыл бұрын
Hasan just REFUSES to say "I don't know"😂
@AutisticAl
Жыл бұрын
"Young people progressives" Bro, he's 32 😂
@allblues2865
Жыл бұрын
As a european (swedish), spending a lot of time listening to and reading about foreign policy and the current geopolitical europe, i feel like the sentiment is that we worry A LOT about the ukraine situation, and support the independence of ukraine, basically all over most of europe. It feels like mostly super conservative people in europe is against supporting ukraine.
@heyons2808
Жыл бұрын
Here in Italy we don’t care, this is soy false. No one cares as long as it doesn’t affect their bread and oil prices
@HigherPowerCAPS
Жыл бұрын
Ethan hiding his power level
@DecayedPony
Жыл бұрын
At this rate Ethan is gonna have to find a new podcast partner for leftovers. Destiny x Ethan podcast *COPIUM*
@jessedudezx
Жыл бұрын
Love how Hassan is completely ignorant about Taiwan and brings up the single similarity between Taiwan and China (their overlapping Han Chinese ethnicity) while ignoring the differences between their economies, militaries, cultures, languages (yes , Taiwan has their own language that every single person speaks aside from Mandarin, it's called Taiwanese), food, religions. And when Chinese people fly into Taiwan, guess which line they fall into: citizen or foreigner?
@MK-cm6xo
Жыл бұрын
By Hasan's logic, Mexico would be more than justified in invading the USA and claiming New Mexico since the population is majority Hispanic.
@TobyElmendorf
Жыл бұрын
Ive always just been perplexed why people think Hasan is smart man. This isn't just a case of disagreement either. Like he genuinely seems like he cannot form a sentence in a way that makes him sound even halfway intelligent
@Vosk21
Жыл бұрын
people in an echo chamber have to convince each other that they are smart to preserve their narcississm and clout
@leftypaws1131
Жыл бұрын
He has a degree in political science. 🙄
@Vosk21
Жыл бұрын
@@leftypaws1131 so does ben shapiro
@leftypaws1131
Жыл бұрын
@@Vosk21 🤔 are you saying if you disagree w someone politically that automatically makes them unintelligent regardless of their IQ/degrees/expertise etc? Btw do you have a degree and if so what is it for? And I’m not being shady, I’m just genuinely curious what exactly your level of education is. Disregarding someone’s entire degree just because you don’t like them seems pretty “stupid” to me 🤷♀️
@Vosk21
Жыл бұрын
@@leftypaws1131 no, im saying that having a degree in political science is proof that you sat through the courses and can demonstrate a certain aptitude when discussing politics. It doesn't make your positions insightful, moral or useful, and it doesn't immunize you from completely compromising your stated values or shitting your pants in a debate. Hasan not recognizing the parallels between Taiwan/China and ISrael/Palestine is a complete contradiction of his stated moral beliefs and there's plenty of other examples of him being a moron trapped in a bubble. tldr: A political degree doesn't make you immune to lapses in judgement or an ethical person
@narurumon1897
Жыл бұрын
I am looking forward to the day when Ethan finally realizes that Hasan just isnt interesting at all and Ethan fires Hasan to do the show with Destiny. Because clearly Destiny and Ethan would have an AMZING chemistry together
@leejay1101
Жыл бұрын
33:44 we didn’t prop up Putin, wtf. He was KGB. He literally came from the old soviet guard who were mad that they no longer had all the power.
@LS-jv9hp
Жыл бұрын
If Hasan stubs his toe he'd blame the CIA for it, you shouldn't expect any less from him.
@brodude9208
Жыл бұрын
Everything bad that happens in the world is because of the CIA, haven't you heard?
@hozyaka
6 ай бұрын
YES
@Androidsquid31
Жыл бұрын
Ethan: Whats you opinion on Taiwan? Hasan: Have you ever… have… have you… Have you ever had a dream that you could do so much you can do anything.
@AkilanNarayanaswamy
Жыл бұрын
Ethan was always pretty sharp back in the day even though he wasn't "book smart." Always asking good questions of situations. He just caught the cringe progressive brain rot
@c.d.c9425
Жыл бұрын
Ironically 2020s progressivism is just 2017 conservatism but reversed. "hUH hUh tRrIGgEReD cOnSErVaTiVeS" "conservatives are the REAL snowflakes" "yeah punch a nazi brooo"
@theowainwright7406
Жыл бұрын
The old ethan is returning
@Vereonis
Жыл бұрын
This is really well edited, I appreciate the longer cuts to relevant clips of other videos for clarity on Destiny's option without him having to repeat and to other videos of Hasan for context.
@HRRY780
Жыл бұрын
They really shouldn’t let that producer guy talk he adds nothing at all to the conversation
@casualverse
Жыл бұрын
I never underestimated Ethan I kept saying yall sleeping on this man.
@HoovyTube
Жыл бұрын
46:30 So does Uganda belong to Great Britain according to Hasan's logic?
@kristianandreasboban2358
Жыл бұрын
Ethan was always gifted but lazy in his preparation, in school he and his siblings got straight A:s despite not applying themselves fully. If Ethan truly applied himself he would probably be one of the best debaters on KZitem.
@moneenerd
Жыл бұрын
Leftovers is gonna implode the exact same way Frenemies did.
@IGiveTheBestTakes
Жыл бұрын
I think Ethan has just been kinda lost. I think he has genuine leftist beliefs he's just figuring them out, and he probably thought hasan was the same. Now he's figuring out hasan is a pop lefty that just uses big words.
@SonGoku-vf4qk
Жыл бұрын
Ethan pissin off hasan is my new favorite thing
@chillin5703
Жыл бұрын
The way that Hassan snakes around actually expressing his takes on these types of topics is embarassing. Hassan calling himself "anti imperialist" while supporting chinese imperial ideology because it's "their tradition" is insane. But not surprising.
@mikehawk408
Жыл бұрын
Taiwan is Chinese territory.
@ExceptBacon
Жыл бұрын
Ethan has to be doing these character arcs on purpose. He’s playing 4D Rat Trap, and we’re just the cheese.
@motherbird470
Жыл бұрын
Bros really got me siding with Ehan Klein
@Dovahkiif
Жыл бұрын
I feel like Ethan has always been a pretty intelligent guy. It's just that he seeks validation in online spaces so badly that he will say some really dumb shit, but when it's something that hits close to home he's usually pretty intelligent about the points he brings up.
@Eddgarur
Жыл бұрын
19:05 fun fact, Taiwan has been independent way longer than Ukraine.
@sascha...
Жыл бұрын
Lost respect for Fence sitting Hasan while also saying we deserved 911.
@hawbuckunic195
Жыл бұрын
Again Ethan Cooking Hasan will always be a thing of beauty.
@fishgoh0nk
Жыл бұрын
Hasan's not a thinker - he's a parrot.
@kasparbhauser9707
Жыл бұрын
Was watching leftovers and paused because I remembered seeing that Destiny reacted to this debate and I knew it would be good.
@plantbasedavid
Жыл бұрын
Ethan has literally no reason to collab with Destiny, stop dreaming. No offense to Destiny, but he has nothing to add to a comedy podcast.
@lucussrear3507
Жыл бұрын
Hi DGGers. Hope you guys have a good day. Let’s watch hasan be further humiliated, together.
@bruh-nk6hi
Жыл бұрын
Our good friend haasan
@Noone-we9vb
Жыл бұрын
Is this left wing unity?
@Jst.a.Normal.Bottle.of.Mustard
Жыл бұрын
@@daasnahk5058ty I was wondering this as I am a new fan
@mikehawk408
Жыл бұрын
Hasan is right on this issue. Lstiny needs to educate himself.
@lucussrear3507
Жыл бұрын
@@mikehawk408 I don’t know if the slobber you’re producing from sucking off hasan is seeping into your brain bruh he’s just fundamentally wrong.
@pepelechad536
Жыл бұрын
Ethan continuing his streak of brilliant and borderline-accidental W's.
@needforspeedfan545
Жыл бұрын
The Republic of China doesn't have to "declare" independence from the PRC, they were never a part of the PRC in the first place. Thats why theres no "formal" declaration.
@rootintootin1947
Жыл бұрын
destiny might have the best editor on the internet. call me out for glazing but they make the content so smooth and enjoyable and they just keep getting better.
@mauv327
Жыл бұрын
Ethan is actually smart he just rarely uses his brain for anything other than chasing money and clout
@hybridmems
10 ай бұрын
? Kinda strange take. He literally hosts a comedy podcast 2 times a week often without sponsors and has done for years
@imnezu8940
10 ай бұрын
The isreal Palestine comment was some serious foreshadowing 😂
@jadonrienstra8084
Жыл бұрын
As a big fan of both, Ethan has always been like this. He has embraced lefty politics for a while with hasan and with his newer (and younger) crew. I think hasan has changed his mind though as he has to sit next to him during leftovers hahah.
@MikeMessiah
Жыл бұрын
imagine being a fan of hasan and Ethan. Yikes.
@jadonrienstra8084
Жыл бұрын
@@MikeMessiahnot hasan lol, destiny and ethan
@wolvziefan1120
Жыл бұрын
I think the leftovers podcast is not long for this world
@jonathansurovell3516
Жыл бұрын
"Overall, like, historically speaking, as Elon Musk recently tweeted..."
@pennclick
Жыл бұрын
Calling it now, Hasan and Ethan will have a falling-out in a couple months and stop the podcast because there’s too much second-guessing of opinions
@Yambag
Жыл бұрын
"Calling it now" -🤓
@ataraxia7439
Жыл бұрын
@imoverherenow That just a normal use of words. You’re being silly making it seem like there’s something nerdy or cringe about saying “call it now” common.
@Yambag
Жыл бұрын
@@ataraxia7439 "you're being silly" yeah, you nailed it. congrats, detective! 👍
@beforethegate8461
Жыл бұрын
@@Yambag🗑
@colinjohnson6454
Жыл бұрын
@@Yambag You're being a silly goose.
@wraygehouse
Жыл бұрын
Hasan almost said I don’t agree with China’s socialist policies 😂 he caught himself and corrected, but I love when he squirms to basic easy questions.
@mrgaudy1954
Жыл бұрын
The fact that Hasan thinks that Ukraine is a more divisive issue in Europe when an entire continent of independent nations (with a few exceptions) all reached a consensus to help Ukraine even though it would impact them directly in the short term is absolutely hilarious.
@amazin7006
Жыл бұрын
I wish Ethan brought this up because its such a fucking easy kill to his argument. Germany sacrificed so much. Estonia donated their entire ussr era military armament. Poland gave away pretty much everything as well.
@mrgaudy1954
Жыл бұрын
@@amazin7006 Beyond military aid, Europe also voluntarily sided against a major energy provider (not a small issue at all as it led to an energy crisis) and accepted a large wave of Ukrainian refugees. The fact that Ukraine *isn’t* a decisive issue in Europe in spite of these factors speaks for itself.
@jdhkay
11 ай бұрын
Drunken master style is pretty hard
@ZacharyTilzer
Жыл бұрын
Taiwanese is spoken in Taiwan. Mandarin most of Mainland. Except for guang dong. Where they speak Cantonese which is vastly different than Mandarin. It's also spooks in Hong Kong. And there's also a couple more languages in the region.
@TheGoblinoid
Жыл бұрын
Ethan's social intelligence is insane.
@dominion3441
Жыл бұрын
Ethan needs to drop Hasan; I'm glad he's confronting him, but bringing him on was one of his most uninformed moves he's ever done. His editor or whoever was the one that told him to bring him in it is such a goof.
@TurntBucket
10 ай бұрын
Changing hair styles is normal when you are younger. You want to be trendy and also you haven't fully figured out your style yet. Once you are past college age tho changing you hair style typically slows down. Changing your hair often is a sin of immaturity/vanity.
@doctorzaius4084
Жыл бұрын
WHAT UP VAPE NAYSH??
@AVspectre
Жыл бұрын
Tim Pool described as ‘da beanie mahn’ made me smile.
@chriswinkler4663
Жыл бұрын
This Hasan take on media sounds like what I would expect to read in Manufacturing Consent if the Author of the book was stupid.
@tequilasunset4651
Жыл бұрын
I recently saw an interview with Naomi Klein where she was talking about how that sort of media analysis gets so perverted into something resembling fabricating a parallel reality, she was mainly talking about how lefty critical thought gets co opted by conspiracy theorists but like, yeah the information age is screwing us hard with this stuff.
@IWumboNation
2 ай бұрын
The "im just fucking with you " line is the defintion of the entire leftovers show. Ethan never wanted to call out Hasan because he realized how crazy his fan base was. Hasans contribution to leftovers was calling every republican a hog and never taking a stance on any issue
@tunasandwich8049
Жыл бұрын
8:44 if hassan's voice was an emoji here it'd be: 😬😰
@ChandlerWhalen
Жыл бұрын
I love when u lefties tear each other down! brings warmth to my cold conservative heart ❤️
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