So this wasn't the planned video for today. Ideally the plan was just to be like "hey costumes are out, lets showcase some of the sick costumes/colours" and then there turned out to be a big hullabaloo about the pricing. The outfits themselves? Great, fantastic even, very very well done. However the fact that you are forced to double dip to buy a single costume, and there's absolutely no discount if you wanna get them en masse has caused quite a bit of a stir, so that's what we are talking about in todays video
@thebestofdeadoralivedoa2005
9 ай бұрын
Now Capcom is copying DOA5LR's and DOA6's Season Pass price? This is worst than them. One would think Capcom would learn from them. How ridiculous!
@smackthenun7556
9 ай бұрын
I understand spending SOME money on dlc, although I'd love the option to grind/farm the currency to get them, but $100? This is the standard they are deciding to set?
@Prettyboyred336
9 ай бұрын
@@thebestofdeadoralivedoa2005 Also Mortal Kombat 1. They're doing the same. It's becoming a trend in fighting game.
@stealthguru3974
9 ай бұрын
It's not perfectly designed like capcom outfits but the free mods are still winning bc Capcom is cappin hard!!
@Godwinsname
9 ай бұрын
I could pay $130.. or I could install a bunch of mods.. hmmmmmmmmm
@ireaperslegend7426
9 ай бұрын
I feel SO stupid for assuming this would be like a 15-20 dollar bundle LOL
@rooflemonger
9 ай бұрын
I had no illusions on pricing but the fact there is no bundle at all is very shocking to me
@themrfelipe6005
9 ай бұрын
I hoped we at LEAST would be able to pay for a single costume instead of having to buy 500 fight coins to get a 300 FC costume.
@watchmesquatch
9 ай бұрын
$108 😂
@watchmesquatch
9 ай бұрын
@@rooflemongerWhat is scummy to me is they made them 300 coins and not 250, forcing a price hike on you if you even want ONE of them. 😅 Are they Crapcom again?...
@pingouuiin
9 ай бұрын
Same here, I was SURE we would be able to get all the costumes for 15 to 20 dollars, I mean that was logical and even 20 bucks for cosmetics isn't cheap, but I was ready to spend them But they either got greedy or it's a bug and the bundle hasn't been implemented yet
@poopoppy
9 ай бұрын
The practice of buying "coins" should be illegal. I'm surprised this practice hasn't been banned years ago.
@JardsonJean
9 ай бұрын
Yep. Setting an in-game currency economy is one of the worst things to ever grace the gaming space. You either allow people to buy them directly or you don't. It should be as simple as that.
@Amaling
9 ай бұрын
Literal psychological manipulation
@AgentSephiroth
9 ай бұрын
@@JardsonJean I seen the change happen. gamers let it happen and even pushed it by supporting it. this is the result.
@arsonne
9 ай бұрын
You think American politicians are going to protect consumers? No.
@MrDuckyWucky
9 ай бұрын
The time is now. If we want to make a law, we should complain to our governments in some way. And that takes a lot of energy.
@spadedonemcdysentery2493
9 ай бұрын
Kinda funny that they released wildly overpriced costumes at the same time as a patch that lets you shut off your ability to see people’s paid for costumes. 😂
@BIGBLUBLUR
9 ай бұрын
At least it's an option. You just KNOW there was someone on the team, or maybe an exec, that wanted to make the shut off mandatory, and had to get practically physical wrestled away from that position.
@stealthguru3974
9 ай бұрын
Yeah what a scam. Pretty much the same as having a mod on that only you can see.
@NF-nv3xw
9 ай бұрын
@@stealthguru3974 There was a little game called Heroes of Newerth. I loved that game then they started making skins. Then the skins started to drift away from the concept of the heroes the more skins they release. It was such a mess that i coudlnt correlate who is this and that. Back then i would love a option like that.
@rdowg
9 ай бұрын
@stealthguru3974 ahhhh, I love it when people admit that they only buy skins to show off 😂 I pray to god other games let people turn it off for other players too
@NihongoWakannai
9 ай бұрын
@@stealthguru3974 yeah, why would I ever pay for a costume when the only advantage over a mod is showing it to others?
@helkeel
9 ай бұрын
Saying the coins are a little "off" is an awfully funny way of saying The coin prices are predatory
@YouGuessIGuess
9 ай бұрын
I feel bad for the artists and animators who make these costumes when corporate pulls pricing shenanigans like this. No bundle option is frankly ridiculous.
@thebigbient8736
9 ай бұрын
Ya because you would rather the artists not get paid 😂 wah wah! People have no clue. Just expect things for free. Its ridiculous.
@hands-ongaming7180
9 ай бұрын
@@thebigbient8736how do you know they’re getting a cut when many times these guys get paid low amounts and are overworked?
@nicorobin7762
9 ай бұрын
@@thebigbient8736most of these jobs are contracted work. they get paid for making the costume itself and that it. no royalties.
@SupaSaiyanGoku
9 ай бұрын
@@thebigbient8736 $108 if you want all 18 costumes, nearly double the base price of the game. The costumes look great, and many fans including myself would have been willing to pay $30-$40 for a bundle, but instead will be skipping it entirely because of the insane pricing. There is no defending this level of greed.
@Raging_Asura
9 ай бұрын
@@thebigbient8736trying to defend Capcom here is not doing you any favors
@kemuelcraig
9 ай бұрын
I feel even more love and gratitude to the modding community on PC now
@eh4372
9 ай бұрын
Yea these prices are disgusting. It’s full priced game not free to play.
@Nero_PR
9 ай бұрын
Bundles for new characters shouldn't even cost close to a ful game as well. Let me give an example, a game that launched for $70 with 15 characters should have a Character Pass with 5 characters for the average price of the game per character, 70/15 is around $4.67 per character, you could round it for $5, so $25 for the Year 1 Character Pass, not $29.99. These companies keep pushing the goalpost a little further each time and people are just too accepting of this shit, especially the FGC.
@thebigbient8736
9 ай бұрын
Because ftp is really ftp 😂😂😂 smh
@eh4372
9 ай бұрын
@@Nero_PR exactly. It’s old school tactic as well. They put to the max then when there is an outrage they cut it and even the cut price is a lot but you end up comparing new price with the crazy price then the new price looks good in comparison but even reduced prices tend to be high. Same with call of duty if you but 2 skins on cod it’s literally same price as the entire game. But people keep buying which encourages them. It’s not that I can’t afford them but I’m not going to be ripped off either.
@Miriam_J_
9 ай бұрын
@@Nero_PR Not on Capcoms side with the outfits, but c'mon man, so much design, animation, voice acting and physics get put into the new characters. Expecting them to make insanely high quality content and sell them for just $5 is unreasonable. When I see the incredible amount of detail and work that goes into creating a brand new character like Aki, I absolutely think they're worth $7.25 (Using DLC pass pricing). Look at MK1, for example. Omni man doesn't look like he oozes care and attention like SF DLC characters. Omni Man sticks out in a bad way, and this isn't mentioning how janky most of MKs animations always look. You pay $8 for Omni Man only to get a very out of place character with the usual NRS animation jank, and an extra $5 if you want the cameo that releases alongside him. You pay $7.25 in SF6 to get a character that fits the artstyle, animates beautifully, and sounds amazing. MK1 also costs a full $70 and the DLC pass costs a full $40. Yeah, things aren't great in SF6 right now with pricing. But, at least in my opinion, you feel what you pay for when a new DLC character gets released. With Mk1 it feels like you're paying for something incomplete, especially since the pass costs way more than SFs.
@eh4372
9 ай бұрын
@@Miriam_J_ you are talking about DLC not costumes. I agree a new character should be a cost but we are talking about costumes that just go on top of a character model that’s already present so it isn’t costing them to create a hole new character. It’s a costume which is pretty trivial in grand scheme of things cost wise for a gaming company. And a lot of Mortal kombat hate I’m sensing lol I actually like mortal kombat 1 more than sf6. More fun, yes it’s a bit more janky but combos and fun to be had with meter build and cameos without as much penalty as sf6 makes it more fun. But street fighting is probably more skilled fighter
@convicsik
9 ай бұрын
How to stop these companies from over charging for cosmetic DLC. Step 1: Stop buying it
@rooflemonger
9 ай бұрын
The wakeup reversal buffer change is actually great although thats gonna get overshadowed by the rest of the news. Also don't go ragequitting anymore, a name change isn't gonna save you lol
@CosmicRPG
9 ай бұрын
RQ in SF6 now = Banned forever from ranked
@ireaperslegend7426
9 ай бұрын
Maybe now DSP’s moves will come out 😂
@CammalBlake
9 ай бұрын
But there's still no way to tell ragequitters from people genuinely loosing their connection, so gotta be carefull with that.
@damienlee4992
9 ай бұрын
I was shocked about that update of the ragequitters lol they got to hold that . But fixing the wakeup that huge and the bugs on the supers too I knew something was off doing honda level 2 super nothing I get fireball to the face for my trouble oof.
@NihongoWakannai
9 ай бұрын
@@CammalBlake it's usually pretty obvious by the timing of their DC. Ragequitters DC when they're about to lose, other people just DC at random times
@Winterzzx
9 ай бұрын
For me (in Brazil) is 426,00 BRL for all costumes, and the BASE game costs 249,00 BRL... The minimum wage in Brazil is 1320,00 BRL. I don't need to say anything more
@dieter-4977
9 ай бұрын
É uma piada.
@Nero_PR
9 ай бұрын
It's ridiculous to cost almost 1/3 of the minimum wage, no matter how you look at it.
@SevastovTv
9 ай бұрын
É uma palhaçada, 500 pau pra porcaria de roupa
@CleAnMa
9 ай бұрын
So you can buy everything and with some spare change even. Great!
@drogaeobraia3857
9 ай бұрын
no one cares about Brazil
@jorge86rodriguez
9 ай бұрын
that conversion trick should be illegal, I just want one costume for my main
@AysarAburrub
9 ай бұрын
straight up ... imagine walking in to a grocery store to buy a bottle of soda and the cashier tells you it's 30 store coins. You ask to buy some coins and he tells you they're only sold in packs of 25, or 50. It's a fkn ripoff.
@jorge86rodriguez
9 ай бұрын
@@AysarAburrub yes
@elidasilva5558
9 ай бұрын
If you think pricing is bad, here in Brazil (of course) which is 5x to the dollar, so getting a character pack and costume pack is pretty much buying another copy of the game. Same goes for KOFXV, both games where on sale but man those DLC character packs, everything is pretty much triple the base game
@BEST-sv1jz
9 ай бұрын
Comparing games together is not very healthy. Capcom can do whatever they want with their game, and customers can express how they feel. It's really not that deep.
@lorettadunne210
9 ай бұрын
That's mostly due to Sony and Microsoft not paying attention to conversion rates, Sony are being sued for a hefty amount of money by people in the UK for it. Americans don't realise how lucky they are to be getting the cheapest version of the game.
@Thorgue1910
9 ай бұрын
But he is talking about the game, he just mentioned another exemple. The DLC costume are still absurdly expensive for us in Brazil
@user-zg2tg4nc1k
9 ай бұрын
You are crying about a country that has the most piracy in the world? LOL.. probably 1 out of 1000 bought the game legally
@josevitorcalfa2
9 ай бұрын
@@user-zg2tg4nc1k The typical "fuck the rest of the world", so common in North America. And US citizens don't know why they are hated around the world....
@kevinnessmendez
9 ай бұрын
Capcom and NRS players need to unite to fight against this BS and we could probably make a difference
@josevitorcalfa2
9 ай бұрын
Yup! Let's organize and take the means of production!
@JustSendMeLocation
9 ай бұрын
The only way to stop companies from being this greedy is to simply stop purchasing what they’re selling, buy the game but don’t buy these costumes, if capcom sees no one’s buying they’ll greatly reduce the price, if we gamers don’t stick together on this one we’ll continue to be over charged.
@sonof7yoshis
9 ай бұрын
Fighting games aren't nearly as big as COD so we have a chance❤
@thesaltmerchant4564
9 ай бұрын
Why? They like it, They buy it anyways then piss moan and cry that they don't have impulse control
@El-Burrito
9 ай бұрын
All video game enjoyers need to come together and call for legislation against these fake currencies in video games. Just let us buy the stuff directly with actual money.
@ZbNimble
9 ай бұрын
Vote with your wallets. If you don't like inflation in video games, don't buy the cosmetics. The more people who spend 100$ on a skin bundle, the more studios will raise their prices.
@Sparda51
9 ай бұрын
There is no bundle lol
@therealjhill6
9 ай бұрын
Exactly
@davidsingleton2395
9 ай бұрын
True
@sandycrash8868
9 ай бұрын
Don’t play the game is the only way you can have your voiced heard
@Sparda51
9 ай бұрын
@@sandycrash8868 nah im still playing the game because its hella fun, doesnt mean I gotta buy all the costumes like I originally planned
@tpickles67
9 ай бұрын
This was probably the real reason they are hammering down on mods. What's the point of buying a costume if it's only visible on my side? If I want something only I can see, I can just mod it.
@duppoappo
9 ай бұрын
I mean you get that without mods now. I've turned all my opponents outfits to default
@Walrus101
9 ай бұрын
@@duppoappo That's not what he meant, he's saying the game should force people to see his skin, because it's not enough for him to see it
@NihongoWakannai
9 ай бұрын
Maybe if people doing free labour weren't providing us a better service than the actual company then it wouldn't be a problem.
@joecoolmccall
9 ай бұрын
@@Walrus101because a person skin represents the player.a lot of players are known by the skin and color they select.
@Walrus101
9 ай бұрын
@@joecoolmccall It's gonna be a big minority of people who disable it. Someone shouldn't be worried about a few people not seeing their skin. The person who chooses to disable that option doesn't really care what skin represent someone, so oh well. Most people will see it, and the user always will
@luciddre4m
9 ай бұрын
Companies need to realize how valuable goodwill is among their customers. It might not appear on a balance sheet, but goodwill is extremely important in the long term. Gouging your fanbase for short-term gains is a bad idea and yet it happens constantly until things fail.
@KittSpiken
9 ай бұрын
True, but on the flipside people were going to complain regardless and they can get a lot of goodwill back by implementing an obvious change like streamlining the purchase method and allowing for the exact amount of coins to be purchased for a costume.
@thebigbient8736
9 ай бұрын
6 dollars a costume is not gouging.
@onesonicguy
9 ай бұрын
@@thebigbient8736If you could buy them for 6 dollars a pop with real money, that’d be one thing. But you’re forced to pay for these using the Fighter Coins. (300 each) Those come in set increments, and even if you wanted to only get one costume, you’d have to pay the lowest value (250) twice because you’d be 50 short and there’s no other way to get Fighter Coins or to have the required amount unless you pay twice for the 250 one or once for the 610 one. The 250 pack is 4.99 USD, while the 610 pack is 11.99. People are getting gouged for their money and are predictably, not happy about it. Myself included.
@NihongoWakannai
9 ай бұрын
The FGC is already way too committed to these games that they'll keep paying even if it's bad. These companies can't be bothered foguring out how to get more players, so they just exploit the commitment of their existing fans.
@naliboi93
9 ай бұрын
They clearly haven't learned from the DoA 6 and DoA 5LR disasters. SF6 seems to be scumming worse than DoA at this point - lack of bundles - higher per unit prices - forcing in game currency to purchase costumes - IRL money units mismatching the fighter coin bundle cost per costume
@Rhyds86
9 ай бұрын
I was afraid of this. They showed their greedy hand with the avatar costumes....... I want skins but only if I think it's a fair deal. The way they've priced the in game currency makes it an automatic no go, for me. I can't and won't support such scummy practises.
@OutsidetheQube
9 ай бұрын
This is clear price gouging, imagine by the time they release 2 more skins it'll be almost $200 to buy them all
@rayvsthaworld
9 ай бұрын
I had my $30 ready to buy the bundle with all of the characters costumes. Didn't realize how delulu I was.
@SupaSaiyanGoku
9 ай бұрын
Same here man, I was ok with $30 but was expecting $40 and would have been on the fence at that price. At $6 per character with no bundle, hell nah
@rayvsthaworld
9 ай бұрын
@SupaSaiyanGoku at $40 I would've been a bit upset, but bought it anyway. We weren't even in the ballpark tho lol.
@SupaSaiyanGoku
9 ай бұрын
@@rayvsthaworld Facts
@yarinp23
9 ай бұрын
I was ready with my 8$ for Lily costume but no way I'm falling to this scummy method of double dip to get one
@rayvsthaworld
9 ай бұрын
@yarin562 you were overprepared and still can't get your costume lol. Capcom messed up with this one.
@Frog-wv6tq
9 ай бұрын
In a paid game that has a lot of players that play a single character, there should be a fair way to buy a single skin. It shouldnt try to funnel everyone into buying more. There should be a 300 coin option if the costume costs 300 coins
@johns783
9 ай бұрын
tbh i think this is the one and only viable criticism here. this day and age costume microtransactions often cost a ton more than this. individually they're actually quite reasonable. but this element does sketch things out.
@reeceheyward3537
9 ай бұрын
bro look at it this way. buy the 610 pack, buy your main's costume, then when bundle 4 drops buy your mains costume 4 without having to buy another pack. The way they have it is scummy but it's a classic business model that won't change by anyone other than the whales boycotting it and good luck with getting them to.
@ensabahnur7657
9 ай бұрын
As long as people keep paying for all that nonsense it's going to keep happening!
@koki84ji7
9 ай бұрын
Or influences stating that they'll buy no matter the costs...
@ensabahnur7657
9 ай бұрын
@@koki84ji7 there's ALWAYS going to be those!😒
@Chaseosa
9 ай бұрын
It's only the whales they're interested in. Most people don't buy them anyway.
@rundown132
9 ай бұрын
Unironically Roofie's part of the problem for buying them lol
@repstylegaming9730
9 ай бұрын
@@rundown132He had to sacrifice for the drip.
@cts1080
9 ай бұрын
Consider this as well: the Year 1 Character Pass is $30 USD for 4 characters, or $7.50 USD a character. Costume 3 is 300 fight coins, or $6 USD for one costume. So, $7.50 for a character versus $6 for a costume? Something smells like a rip-off
@D3athL1vin
9 ай бұрын
This is insane when you put it into perspective, it's genuinely free to play business model stuff in a full priced title.
@darkdragon88
9 ай бұрын
This was my thought, as well as the total price of all costume 3 and the total price of the entire game.
@notnotricharmander
9 ай бұрын
Don’t buy the costume then. There’s nothing p2w about this.
@alejandrogarcia7938
9 ай бұрын
@@notnotricharmanderthe point of a full price game is you should be able to unlock everything through gameplay and the grind should be moderate.... If is a free to play game they have 1000% right to charge for costumes and other dlcs
@notnotricharmander
9 ай бұрын
@@alejandrogarcia7938 you already got the full game. the skins are extra.
@KaiSchSp
9 ай бұрын
Fighting games are expensive as is. You gotta pay for every season of characters. It's expensive even without costumes.
@thebigbient8736
9 ай бұрын
Ya and expensive to keep running and updates coming.
@Daevic10
9 ай бұрын
Thats what the character dlc is for moron on top of them having all that avatar stuff. No excuse for this shady shit
@oui7171
9 ай бұрын
@@thebigbient8736 We got that you're a huge corporate shill, no need to keep posting
@Hurricaneroad3111
9 ай бұрын
You don’t actually. It’s called having free will. Pay your 60 and call it a day. Why do people Never see this as an option.
@KaiSchSp
9 ай бұрын
I can not buy these and still criticize what is being offered. I care about street fighter, I want it to succeed, I want it to be a great game. Ludicrouse pricing on costumes that could be unlockables in other games sour my experience.
@thankyou329
9 ай бұрын
As a lifelong costume wearer, I'm shaking my head in disgust at this one.
@dregnoff9361
9 ай бұрын
Clown costume?
@Gilliboy
9 ай бұрын
Its just unreal that these cost double the base game.
@Mage_Nichlas_
9 ай бұрын
I've been holding off using my Drive Tickets to buy more Color Bundles(which is still stupid that I have to buy the colors) thinking that this would be like SFV and I could get a couple costumes with Drive Tickets. Heck in Max's video from the trailer he threw out the "Please Capcom, $20 bundle for everything." and I was ready and willing to drop a crisp $20. Now I'm just frustrated and I'm probably not going to buy any of them. It's extremely sad because Juri and Lily's costumes I was really excited for above the others.
@Cloudstrifehy3
9 ай бұрын
I'm sorry man Cause That Lily Costume LIterally Turns Her from one of the worse designed characters in the game to Someone i could see myself playing.
@whitefang0925
9 ай бұрын
Right, I didn't like her default costume, but this changes everything.@@Cloudstrifehy3
@zinro
8 ай бұрын
I feel your pain. Im tired of looking at the same costumes with the same 2 colors in the offline modes. Grinding in World Tour like crazy just to get second costumes.
@Mage_Nichlas_
8 ай бұрын
Don't worry, it's a lot easier to get the items that the characters like now than it was on launch.
@GELTONZ
9 ай бұрын
"That's like a Dead or Alive amount of sales for costumes" DOA5's $100 season passes got you 100 costumes. This gets you 18. DOA5 costumes were $2 normally, $3 for ones with clothing damage/transformations/a particularly BS license. DOA was much more reasonable.
@coryyoung7544
9 ай бұрын
Realistically though DOA did slightly better since they had lots of unlockables. If they had a gold or silver swimsuit you knew you were gonna sweat or get stomped.
@NorlandKalgara
9 ай бұрын
Cheaper costumes, on top of free base costumes that are up to 10 per character.
@oratank
9 ай бұрын
well they just want it for free
@BinBintheRiceCake
9 ай бұрын
"DOA was much more reasonable." This is it, we've hit levels of the lesser of two evils that I'd hope to never see.
@thesteamguy6171
9 ай бұрын
@@BinBintheRiceCakefor real...the fact that now DOA's DLC costumes practice looks acceptable Is immensely sad.
@darkwater124
9 ай бұрын
Also I have to say I disagree with the statement that the costume prices are worth it. Converted to USD, and ignoring the fact that you have to buy coin bundles, one costume is valued around the same price as $6 USD. For context, you can buy Johnny in GG Strive, an entire character, for just $7 USD. Even worse, in Smash Ultimate, you can buy Kazuya Mishima, get his 2 costumes, get his stage, and get somewhere around an upper 30s/lower 40s amount of new Tekken music, for $6 USD. I'd feel differently about doing whataboutism if SF6 was free to play, but it's not, so I cannot agree that a $6 USD costume is worth that asking price
@Walrus101
9 ай бұрын
Uhh, welcome to video games, I guess...? It's like this in all games. Skins are always more pricey than characters and other things. The price is worth it if someone wants the cosmetic change, as the price is reasonable for that (even though scummy with forcing you to buy 2). Cosmetics have nothing to do with the gameplay, so it doesn't even make sense to compare buying a character vs buying a skin. If you only are willing to spend $6 on the game ever, then a character someone likes would probably be more worthwhile. But otherwise, it's worth it to someone who wants it, simple as that.
@Walrus101
9 ай бұрын
@kollie79 What excuses? I think you know what I say is valid, including the fact that SFV is an obvious exception. I wasn't aware of the price there. FYI, upon looking it up to check, the first thing I see is someone crying about how he literally couldn't believe a skin cost $4 and he thought that cost was to get skins for the entire roster at once. I just don't understand entitled games who think that games are made for the sole purpose of providing them enjoyment, thus everything should be given to them because they somehow deserve it.
@coolman5242
9 ай бұрын
It depends on how much you value an item to determine if something is worth it or not. Like to flip your argument around, I personally don't find Johnny nor Kazuya to be fun at all so playing with them would be a complete waste of time for me personally(no offense to those who main them), but I don't mind paying for customizable options for characters I have fun playing with and invested a lot of time gitting gud at. Plus let's not forget that Strive, GBVS, and other Arc games has you pay $4 for extra colors.
@Walrus101
9 ай бұрын
@@coolman5242 100%. People can't accept that others are different than them. Just because he doesn't find value in a skin with how his mind works, he refuses that other people should find value in it.
@Walrus101
9 ай бұрын
@kollie79 If you say so. I probably play a lot more games than you (I have less of a life) and the premium skins are usually like 6, 7 or very often more. Offering the ability for someone to buy a skin if they see value in it is not "wringing the playerbase dry." No one needs it. It's a luxury. There are already free skins in the game too. I'm not defending the company LMFAO, why do you jump to that assumption? I couldn't care less about a corporate entity. I even said that the pricing model making you spend $16 (EDIT: It's $12, the person who said that is wrong) if you want the $6 skin is scummy. I'm just speaking my mind on how people act about this stuff, but I guess I'm not allowed to do that without being labeled a corporate shill 🤔
@dwest84
8 ай бұрын
Why do all the people doing videos on this not have a problem with the cost of the costumes? $6+ PER OUTFIT is absurd. It should have been at absolute maximum like $20 for the whole bundle. Both Capcom and Netherrealm need a painful reality check, and fast. I'm already sick of this shit.
@groovygravy2293
9 ай бұрын
The very least they could do is bring the cost down to 250 coins and refund 50 coins for every costume that was bought at 300. 👁
@doublekrpg
9 ай бұрын
When the TMNT collaboration happened I knew this was going to be a bad deal for skins.
@P_OmSa
9 ай бұрын
I really wish companies would realize that treating your customers with respect is good business in the long-term. This game is fantastic, but it has lost a lot of the goodwill it had at launch through these types of practices: charging for alternate colors for the default costumes, charging for old music tracks, charging 15 USD for ninja turtle costumes, and now this. They might make a lot of money in the short-term, but in the long-term it dampens the excitement for the game and especially the release of new content, which translates into lost sales. Like, the next time they announce new costumes people are going to immediately think of this and understandably post negative comments on social media, which will affect sales both of the game *and* the costumes...and this is assuming this practice is making them money in the short term: if they'd released a bundle for 30 USD (and I could buy it without overspending on Fight Coins), they'd already have my money, but they don't. 🤷♂
@Coolanaytor
9 ай бұрын
Regardless of how much the costumes cost the thing that bothers me more than anything else is that they dont just let you pay the amount for the skin you have to over buy coins. tons of games do this like league of legends and i think it should actually be literally illegal, it is a real scam done buy these major companies where they put something at say 5 dollars but only let you buy money in multiplies of 6 dollars. It is the definition or predatory pricing and it is disgusting
@joseinteriano6210
8 ай бұрын
Please don't say "Let us pay $6" because that's exactly what Capcom want us to say. That price is unnaceptable for one costume!
@riddim
9 ай бұрын
Why are the costumes not 250 coins vs 300, they know exactly what their doing, sigh
@doomper8058
9 ай бұрын
Am I insane for thinking that it would've been smarter for these costumes to be 100 coins (40~ usd for all in total) I'm well aware that there will be those who buy the costumes at these scam ass prices anyway, but I swear there would ultimately be more people spending and more money made overall if they were 100 coins. For example, me personally I see these prices as they are currently and I literally don't want to buy a single costume now, but if they were 100 each I'd have easily bought several for sure, even if just out of respect of the good pricing, and likely down the line even just bought all of them. I imagine I'm not the only one who thinks this either, there's a whole psychological level to shit like this that I feel like capcom suits are just painfully unaware of, then again, I'm not a professional I suppose so wtf do I know right? At the VERY least though, I hope they are brought down to 250 from the backlash and give 50 coins back per costume to those who purchased some already.
@TheHankScorpio
9 ай бұрын
I expected the prices being higher than $5, I expected the modern gaming "virtual currency that is just out of reach of 1 item or way over", but i'm honestly surprised by the lack of bundle deal
@Neoxon619
9 ай бұрын
$6 a pop isn't too far removed from SFV's $4 per non-story costume, that's (mostly) fine. The real problem here is the Fighter Coin bullshit & how you can't just get the exact amount you need. Just giving us an option to only buy 50 Fighter Coins ($1) would go a long way in fixing the issue.
@DJKHAI23
9 ай бұрын
Yeah there is a simple way to fix this. And yeah Capcom really messed this up.
@poopoppy
9 ай бұрын
"Coins" should be banned.
@jsonken82
9 ай бұрын
I agree with the statement above. Coins should be banned. They do this knowing people will overspend and it’s predatory. I should just have the option to pay the price for 1 costume to the store.
@nekogami87
9 ай бұрын
@@poopoppy While I do find the price reasonable personally speaking (I do regret the lack of bundle though), I agree, coins should NOT be a thing, I don't really care that we can't buy them with in game drive ticket.I want to spend my money to buy costume and they make it more difficult for me ... I understand why, and the pros and cons for it but still. don't like that.
@hotzauhse
9 ай бұрын
$6 should be a character not a costume these companies been scamming people doing all this
@Mene0
9 ай бұрын
9:46 also Roofle have to disagree with NRS/WB "flinching" on the paid fatalities situation. They took a situation that was totaly egregious, 12 bucks for 1, and now said "its 10 bucks for 3!". Yeah that's still absurd. They push the boundaries of what we can do and them after some backlash pretend to back down, but even the back'd down situation is still an insult honestly
@Mexman75
9 ай бұрын
I would have to disagree 3 seasonal fatalities for $10 isn’t crazy. Would I like them to be free? sure,absolutely, but if they had lead with it being a 3 pack for $10 from the beginning the outrage would have been very small. The only issue is it took outrage for it to be reconsidered.
@JessieBlackheart
9 ай бұрын
Yeah, every time someone says "they made it better, good" i cringe. This was their plan all along, and people at it up
@Mene0
9 ай бұрын
@@Mexman75 In my opinion? Yes it is, but the point is that that was their plan all along, and they got away with it. They knew 1 for US$ 12 would be too much, did it anyway and then "rolled it back" to pretend they are listening.
@Agent101g
9 ай бұрын
10 for 3 is much better though. imagine 10 bucks for 3 outfit 3s.
@Mexman75
9 ай бұрын
@@Mene0 I guess my problem with that way of thinking is I can’t prove it one way or the other. I can say they are greedy and planned to trick people into believing their listening or that they started off greedy and in attempt to save face dialed back. The end result is the same which is a deal I’m ok with so the intent doesn’t seem to matter as much since I can’t determine either. At this point I will take the decrease as opposed to SF6 where they did not decrease the TMNT skins at all and also made them limited time which only encouraged FOMO in the players. Based off of both studios current track record I can at least expect WB to cave to public pressure while Capcom doesn’t appear to.
@nekopath2879
9 ай бұрын
4$ single costume 30$ bundle That would feel way better
@MistrMojoRisin
9 ай бұрын
It sucks that the pricing really did temper my excitement a bit. Really, any way of being able to get the costumes through in-game currency would've just made it better.
@pockystyx4087
9 ай бұрын
the whole “can only buy coins in bundles that leave you with not enough coins for something else after “ tactic was what really made me sour on the whole situation.
@quinton5123
9 ай бұрын
The buying in game currency scam needs to go away. SF6 needs to make more positive moves. Seeing the corporate greed makes me less interested in supporting the game
@OmnipotentO
9 ай бұрын
It's fine that they're $6 or whatever. It's not fine I can't pay an exact amount to get one.
@sladevalen2120
9 ай бұрын
I dont know why people expected these to be reasonably priced. We have a track record of greed with the fact that you have to buy colors for the default costume, the pricing of the avatar stuff especially the collaboration, and the fact there are battle passes on top of a fully priced game.
@victornguyen1175
9 ай бұрын
If costumes are priced like this, I want to know for sure that most of it goes to the artists, which it probably doesn't.
@metalgamer8179
9 ай бұрын
I knew it would be expensive (no way it was gonna be a 20 buck bundle imo), but to have no bundle discount and not let us by the correct fighter coin amount is really what pisses me off. Because I *would* buy them if they weren't so expensive
@FrostedZaibatsu
9 ай бұрын
300 coins, you would think $3 and thats the half of it.Needing to spend $10 usd for one single costume or $12 for 2 is so lame. I bought the game $60 and then $50 for the ultimate (shouldve been named basic). I spent $104 on groceries the other day and i eat OMAD. Thats two/three weeks of food for me.
@vinnythewebsurfer
9 ай бұрын
NRS vs Capcom! Their battle for live service scumbaggery will be LEGENDARY! I will say at least, having a feature to turn off seeing other peoples cosmetics is fantastic. So many other publishers like Riot, Activision blizzard and epic games outright refuse to do such a thing a go the opposite way where they’re making patents to have matchmaking put blinged out whales into lobbies with F2P people to try and psychologically condition and influence people into feelings inferior and push them ever closer towards the shops/Making the whales feel special. It’s a lot of micro scumminess all in the name of live services shittiness.
@ethanr3480
9 ай бұрын
My problem isn’t that the costumes are 6 dollars each but that you gotta spend either 10 dollars for one or 12 dolllars for two because the coin packs are either 50 coins below or 300 over when you just want to buy one. If the costumes were just 250 coins then that would be infinitely better
@heroicsquirrel3195
9 ай бұрын
No it wouldnt
@JustSendMeLocation
9 ай бұрын
As long as people continue paying for these ridiculous costumes they’ll keep charging these stupid prices
@ΚρανίΩ
9 ай бұрын
@@JustSendMeLocationthe costumes look nice and the people who worked on it need to get payed, stop bitching about it and just don't buy it
@TheNobleFive
9 ай бұрын
@@ΚρανίΩ lmao
@raypolaris3381
9 ай бұрын
Now we know why Capcom was so hostile towards mods.
@kaiser8773
9 ай бұрын
Capcom: Manages to have the best release of its flagship fighting game series. Also Capcom: Ruins everything with an inconsistent pace of releasing extra characters, expensive online avatar costumes, and now puts the long-awaited alternative costumes for playable characters at a higher price than the base game.
@xkmuffinzx3915
9 ай бұрын
They should've gone bankrupt years ago but Sony pulled them out from the grave and made SFV
@JustNardo
9 ай бұрын
6 dollars for a costume by ITSELF is scummy. Everyone here saying that's fine or fair for a costume has lost the plot.
@lolroflomginternet
9 ай бұрын
more like 16 if you only want one. this is just bs
@Walrus101
9 ай бұрын
Really? What price should it be? $2? Can you name any major video game, even 10 years ago, that had such prices? And why is $6 scummy? That's like a cheap dinner, or part of a more expensive one. Let's not pretend you don't regularly waste more than $6 on a fleeting moment of enjoyment for food or etc. But $6 for a permanent thing that you enjoy in a game, which doesn't impact gameplay, is scummy? Please explain. I'd especially love to know why you think people aren't allowed to think it's fair lmfao...
@YMan-zo5kg
9 ай бұрын
@@Walrus101cause the base game has 2 skins per character and all the outfit 3s together is like buying 2 base games. Kinda absurd to say outfit 3s are twice as valuable as the entire game.
@adambickford8720
9 ай бұрын
@@Walrus101 MKX was $5 for a *character*, not a skin.
@Walrus101
9 ай бұрын
@@adambickford8720 Skins have nothing to do with characters. There are always more expensive than characters in games, which is a good thing. Because if they weren't, it wouldn't be characters at the same price and skins cheaper, but they'd make characters more expensive
@roncrudup2110
9 ай бұрын
Lowering the price would actually make Capcom more money. All the people who wouldn’t spend $6 would probably pay $2-$3 for a costume. All the people who would spend $20-$30 on the game would be still do it. I would buy every costume if it was $2-$3.
@doctordice2doctordice210
9 ай бұрын
What pisses me is that they genuinely didn't need to, it legitimately would've been a WAY better financial move to just throw a 30 something bundle This genuinely helps no one, not even them, they're basically relaying on wheals, hope it's worth driving all potential customers away
@darcrequiem
9 ай бұрын
The individual price is a little higher than I thought. I figured $4 to $5. The lack of a bundle and and ability to buy the costumes directly though, thats were they lost me. This intermediate currency nonsense needs to be outlawed.
@kimiaoi5480
9 ай бұрын
I would’ve paid 6.00 for one, but the fact I have to get the 12.00 fighter coins is annoying me enough that I’m not getting any of them
@mattmanley7118
9 ай бұрын
Outrageous!!! 😮 I want to get into SF but not if this is the way costumes are handled!!
@doggosuchwow1593
9 ай бұрын
Wait for tekken 8 at this point. No I have actually never played 7 but bigger roster of characters to start and probs a better game imo
@DIOBrando-ij2bp
9 ай бұрын
It’s funny hearing people say that the cost of the DLC costumes seems about right. Things have been so bad for so long now that these price points seem OK. When Marvel vs. Capcom 3 came out back in 2011 people were outraged Capcom was charging $5 for Jill and Shuma-Gorath separately. It was seen as price gouging. And it was. But now it’s so bad that Capcom can charge more than five dollars for a costume, not even a whole new character, but a skin, and some people are like: Yeah, seems reasonable. Hell, the base game should’ve come with like four costumes for everyone and given the player a way to customize the looks to at least some degree. And if Capcom wanted to sell costumes at these prices they should’ve just released SF6 as a F2P game.
@noimagination9326
9 ай бұрын
They hit us with the "If your a broke boi...just say that" - Pokimane
@JeannieLove
9 ай бұрын
This makes me so worried for the next Monster Hunter and Dragon's Dogma II. They eacalated Street Fighter and even RE4 is pretty aggressive, what's to stop them doing the same for MonHun and DDII?
@incrediblehak2833
9 ай бұрын
I really hate that people aren't going to see the costume i want them to see. Makes me wanna buy custumes even less. Half of the reason is so i can look at the cool costume of my character, but the other half is because i want my opponent to see as well lol
@Xeltos
9 ай бұрын
Most people won't even do that shit. The option is mostly for online tournaments and pro tour where certain costumes get in the way of seeing moves/visual blending in bg. And why are you buying costumes for OTHER people to see them. Most people don't give a shit what costume you're wearing unless it's the aforementioned issue above ^
@joecoolmccall
9 ай бұрын
@@Xeltospersonal expression. A lot of players are identified by the skin they are using
@grahamjl766
9 ай бұрын
There needs to be a law that any online ecosystem that uses coins, tokens, gem, ect must provide the ability to sell back the excess. This non-refundable gift card ecosystem is so annoying.
@raphaelfp
9 ай бұрын
I don't even see the point of purchasing a third outfit if now you can set what the opponent character will look like when you fight them
@DeshawnBrown-ss8zh
8 ай бұрын
The fact we can't even see them in their 2nd costume in world tour mode is a crime.. -_-
@alanwood586
9 ай бұрын
This is becoming a real problem with fighting games. You pay for a full price premium game and then there so much expensive DLC. New Characters I sorta get (and don’t mind paying for) as they keep the games alive but I feel costumes should be free or unlockable. Crazy thing is there’s bound to be a ‘Super’ or ‘Ultra’ version down the line where all these costumes will likely be free anyway lol 🙃
@destebangm11216
9 ай бұрын
Capcom starts commenting mods are cheating and might be banned in future games* Proceeds to ask 100 dollars for costumes.... Great capcom, not only denuvo but now this... Really disappointing and won't support this at all
@Freakuency_DJ
8 ай бұрын
Both the video and the comment from you on this video say a lot. There’s a lot of “the pricing, FOR SOME, may be an issue”. I’ve been really loving your videos over the last year. But there has to be an acknowledgment that the people watching this are not getting sponsored by a fight stick money. We’re not making our living in the FGC. We’re die-hard fans that are getting bled out by Capcom and NRS. We can’t write off our purchase of these costumes as business expense for our KZitem channel. We just want to have full access to the game we bought and love.
@ZonnexNecton
8 ай бұрын
I had complained about this as far back since Street Fighter 4. But folks kept defending that practice. Now it’s getting worst despite the warning that knew the outcome. Most players have been played like fools.
@NorlandKalgara
9 ай бұрын
Dead or Alive costumes all are far cheaper. Yet still get ridiculed by fgc. So it's interesting to see how people reacts to this.
@jesse76th96
9 ай бұрын
Because all the dev time goes into outfits and not making the game fun to play
@NorlandKalgara
9 ай бұрын
No, they still do balance patch with each update. But ofc dev support for 6 didn't even reach 1 year iirc.
@tenkovito
9 ай бұрын
The change from SFV giving you all costumes included in the game bundle to it being 100 dollars for 1 set of costumes gave me whiplash
@Limit02
9 ай бұрын
Releasing 18 costumes at once feels like a weird decision, even if they were feeling extra generous and only charged 3 bucks a costume, buying them all at once would still be comparable to the price of the game
@darkrootgabriel
9 ай бұрын
The use of purchasable artificial currency should be outlawed. Would it be allowed if Amazon required people to buy "Amazon Bucks" to purchase things off of their website, and then make sure the bundles of "Amazon Bucks" never matched up to the amount of a single item? I find that hard to believe...so these gaming companies shouldn't be able to do it either.
@sunsh1ne1024
9 ай бұрын
The gorilla was so cute lol
@rogerhogg8899
9 ай бұрын
Incredible to see capcom piss away the goodwill they bought with the incredibly strong release of the game. Im a collector and i love this game, but this is some EA bullshit. One thing SFV did right was pricing on aesthetic content.
@jbob4996
9 ай бұрын
Wait doesn't selecting how your opponents look pretty much negate the reason for costumes? Might as well just use mods
@-Azure.EXE-
9 ай бұрын
I utterly despise only being able to buy the 'premium' currency of a game at increments that make it impossible to buy just the one thing I want.
@ryo-kai8587
9 ай бұрын
That's because it's straight-up manipulative and gross, and you intuitively know that. Somehow, we've gotten to this point though
@El-Burrito
9 ай бұрын
Opponent outfit settings is great for modders because it lets you force opponents to use costumes that you've modded
@NihongoWakannai
9 ай бұрын
It's funny how they released these overpriced skin while at the same time making the game better for skin modders. Why would I ever buy a costume when it doesn't even show the enemy? No different to a mod.
@CrimsoniteSP
9 ай бұрын
Yeah, I understand why people would be mad, it's a similar story with most companies and their made up currencies. I feel like if it was just $3-5USD a pop, no complaints. Sure it's pricey to get the whole cast but it's fine. That's reasonable and you wouldn't have to overpay just to get 1.
@douglasmijangos3327
9 ай бұрын
Should I get the costumes that pretty much don’t affect the game at all or should I just go for a nice Leverless SGF controller that’s a huge part of playing Fighting games and I can use for so many other games 🤔 😂
@ChrisMS0815
9 ай бұрын
Also Street Fighter seems to be the only series from Capcom that have insane DLC prices that I take issue with. Resident Evil typically has cheap DLC and so did DMC5 even though people tried to make an issue out of those orb packs that aren't even needed.
@kyogrecrown5869
9 ай бұрын
Monster hunter has been pretty bad recently
@ChrisMS0815
9 ай бұрын
@@kyogrecrown5869 Yeah I was thinking it could be but I wouldn't know since I don't play it.
@kingleonidas2182
9 ай бұрын
I was willing to drop $30 for the entire set lol. How silly am I.
@MasterOssy
9 ай бұрын
……..so we went from modding is bad because Capcom says so, to hype costumes that modders can do better, to putting Capcom on blast for the price?
@kougaprowess4698
9 ай бұрын
Im so glad I skipped SFV and now SF6. Still playing USF4, only street fighter game that catered to the player base and price friendly
@doctorred7924
8 ай бұрын
$6.00 is honestly ridiculously overpriced for just a single costume; even if it came with exclusive intro/outro animations, it would be too much.
@evalangley3985
9 ай бұрын
Costumes should be possible to unlock using Drive Tickets.
@dummyroll01
9 ай бұрын
Oh it's 100 dollars for all of them? And there's no bundle? Oh and you can't buy jack shit without being left with an off number of coins? Cool I'm not buying any. That was easy. Next.
@himbogaggins
9 ай бұрын
The ball is in the consumer's court. The company can only charge what people will pay. They will do something if they don't make what their projections estimated.
@ChrisMS0815
9 ай бұрын
I just knew these costumes were gonna be crazy expensive, what happened to the SF4 days when you could get 5 costumes in a pack for $5.99?
@coltranebartlett590
9 ай бұрын
I'd like the imagine that if Streamers wanna help the community fight back, they could set it so that no costume 3's appear in their streams at all. Would be a massive W if idom snake eyez Brianf etc all did it on stream while explaining that they do not support Capcom's decision to wallet-grape their playerbase.
@NiiRubra
9 ай бұрын
In summary, lovely and very well made cosmetics with an exploitative pricing model from Capcom. Also nifty patch that comes with it, in a vacuum that one is great.
@ΚρανίΩ
9 ай бұрын
fr the time they put into those skins seems absurd, of course its going to be pricy
@TehZergRush
9 ай бұрын
Fellow Canadian here. Because of coin pricing it's basically $14 for one costume, our minimum wage is $16.65/hr. There's no utility in us as consumers trying to rationalize that type of pricing by saying they average out to $6 because that's not what the average price will be in practice because of the aforementioned coin pricing. Especially with no bundle option this needs to be strongly admonished by the entire community. Capcom isn't our friend, we need to give them shit. I love the actual gameplay of SF6, but tbh the way Capcom has monetized, and primarily focused on monetizing this game is souring my experiencing with this otherwise excellent title. Yea, I do feel fleeced for buying the deluxe edition, why do you ask?!
@AustinPS97
9 ай бұрын
Hopefully Capcom will see the outcry from the community and at the very least make a bundle for all of the Outfit 3s for those who want to get all of them in one go and for those who've already bought some of them to give them the rest in a bundle at a reduced cost but time will tell! The ball's in your court Papa Capcom! Also, this just makes me wish that the only currency for the game was the Drive Tickets like how the only currency for SF V(correct me if I'm wrong) was "fight money" and the only thing you need to spend real money on was the actual DLC(stages, character, etc.) sorta like how GG: Strive and GBVS is doing it. But, I guess that's how these big gaming companies operate these days, sadly.
@NuggetsNBAChamps
9 ай бұрын
Nah, Capcom's taking advantage of the good will they've built up the last 7-8 years again, to exploit you and their overall playerbase, they're starting their Crapcom phase again. They don't care about the outcry because you already bought the game and they know you'll keep playing it. Give it a bit when this gets worse and worse (and peaks) and the outcry will be bad enough that they'll start building up good will again.
@mystic_ramen
9 ай бұрын
Honestly one of my most favorite DLCs was Hero in Smash. It was 4 characters in 1, with different voices, a stage, and multiple music tracks all for about $6 iirc
@disco4178
9 ай бұрын
The TMNT pricing should have been a clue... and I fell for that one...
@Alex_Hoss
9 ай бұрын
The cost to value ratio for these costumes when compared to the base game is absolutely insane. Not releasing the price was accurately interpreted as red flag. Capcom knew what they were doing, and are fully aware it's a shitty way to treat fans. Pure greed. I understand a business has to make money, but they also need to maintain the goodwill of their audience, and this is surefire way to burn through a lot of the goodwill they've earned so far with SF6.
@elnopalero4691
9 ай бұрын
I don’t think 6$ will “burn” good will these days. That’s so cheap compared to other skins if you look around. It’s just the way it is so I’m buying one and getting 100s of ours out of it for my main
@Alex_Hoss
9 ай бұрын
@@elnopalero4691 It's not "just" $6 though is it? It's closer $10, as you need to buy 2 lots of 250 fighter coins, because they don't sell them in packs of 300. And just because other companies are shafting their audience for skins doesn't mean I have to accept it either. Especially considering my first point about cost to value ratio, as I imagine a lot of the games you're talking about with expensive skins, are FREE TO PLAY! And of course you don't have an issue, you're buying one skin for a single fighter you play. It doesn't mean there aren't people that play multiple characters (like me), that would like to buy several costumes. In which case, it can get expensive quickly, and where a discounted bundle would have made sense. And people in said situation, of course they're going to feel burned by this. Look at the title of the video you're commenting on FFS, would that be there if the community felt these were fairly priced?
@_Deez
9 ай бұрын
After seeing them lock colors and outfit 2 behind currencies and grinds and give you the option to buy them right away, I knew they were gonna go real scummy with this game. Then they released the $15 Ninja Turtle outfits. And then you realize that there is a battle pass that is honestly super inoffensive, but it is no doubt a testing ground to ease players into being fine with there being a battlepass in the game, and later on down the line make sure shit we actually want is locked in it. I already wasn't the biggest fan of SF6, and this is making it real hard to want to come back.
@JardsonJean
9 ай бұрын
I expected these to be expensive. But add scummy in game currency practices to it and you can count me out. I play this game locally with a few friends so I'd love to get a bundle for all of them. But no, I'm not getting any of them, thank you.
@josevitorcalfa2
9 ай бұрын
Sad to say that, but I will wait until the price drops, IF the price drops.
@ThePlasticBowl
9 ай бұрын
Also worth mentioning on the Vs match screen if you have an alternate costumed selected the game will link whatever costume you’re wearing to the costume if it’s the appropriate character portrait
@RaheemRollair
9 ай бұрын
Inflation in video games is one thing, increased pricing in micro-transactions is another.
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