I had a DF64 with SSP HU's and sold it because I preordered a P64. I've been hand grinding med-light espresso for a month and its been horrible. I bought another DF64 and ordered Gen 2 burrs based on your videos. Thanks for the vids!
@coffeenerdaaron
Жыл бұрын
Hand grinding light roast for espresso can be taxing, especially for a month straight!!! Are you planning to use the Gen 2 burrs in the DF for espresso? The Gen 2 burrs don’t grind fine enough to create standard 8-9 bar espresso. You can kind of do turbo shots with them but you’ll need something that can grind finer otherwise. And thank you for watching!!!
@noorquttieneh
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the burr reviews, now I know which one to get in the future, god bless you my friend you content is definitely 👌
@coffeenerdaaron
Жыл бұрын
Glad you found them helpful! 😊🤘☕️
@Sinisterg60
Жыл бұрын
Great video man! Spot on how I feel.
@coffeenerdaaron
Жыл бұрын
Thanks man! And thanks for your input and perspective! 😜🤘☕️
@Andrew-wp1bz
Жыл бұрын
Great video as always. I believe it would be a better comparison to dial in the coffee by taste, rather than attempting to get identical grind size. Each burr produces a wide range of particle sizes, so having a median size that’s equivalent won’t necessarily provide the best tasting/extracted coffee from each burr. In real work use case you wouldn’t dial a coffee in based on micron size, but by taste. So it makes the most sense to do a taste comparison that way as well.
@coffeenerdaaron
Жыл бұрын
I don’t disagree that you should dial in a grinder/coffee based on taste but doing a test like this where all things are as equal as possible highlights how the different burrs impact the coffee. You’re ruling out everything except the burrs which shows you their inherent characteristics. But outside of testing I always try to dial a grinder/coffee in based on taste not particle size. Thanks for watching and thanks for the comment 🤘☕️😊
@Andrew-wp1bz
Жыл бұрын
I see where you’re coming from but still disagree. By not dialling in the way that you typically would for a given burr, you’re not appropriately showing the characteristics of the given burr. At least something to think about. Have a great evening!
@lewismccluskey
Жыл бұрын
Both methods show the nature of the burrs used, it's just another experiment to have I think Andrew :D I'm leaning towards thinking that the curved edges to the gorilla gears are shearing/grinding the coffee beans in a way similar to peeling a fruit or vegetable - meeting the curve of the bean. This may affect the flavour profile produced.
@NickWattsOregon
Жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed all the burr comparisons, thanks! I think I’ve decided for the Gen2 upgrade for myself for the value, but yes the Gorilla sounds great. Also, just dowloaded the grind app, thanks for sharing that resource!
@coffeenerdaaron
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!!! You can’t go wrong with the Gen 2, you’ll love the coffee you get from them! ☕️🤘
@08shiver750
Жыл бұрын
Awesome video, Brother. This is honestly the first time I have subscribed to anyone. Hope you are feeling good! Keep up the great content.
@coffeenerdaaron
Жыл бұрын
It’s an honor to be your first!!! Thank you very much 😊🤘☕️
@RIDDL3RZ
Жыл бұрын
Brilliant video, and a great comparative review. Cheers!
@coffeenerdaaron
Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@Coffeenerdtools
Жыл бұрын
Excellent video. Great content, great production quality 👊🏼
@coffeenerdaaron
Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much!!! 😜🤘☕️
@erwinsusara
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video! I was having a hard time discerning large differences between the two burr sets and wondered if it was just me, especially since there is that lag time between changing burrs on the Ode (I am not buying another Ode though tempting). Right now I am happy with the Gen 2 set since it fits the bill for daily brews and was the last one put on for taste testing (yes, I'm lazy). Now I have to figure out whether to keep the GG. Thanks for the Coffee Grind app info and check out the Kruve Brewler. Not as exact, but another measurement tool that can be handy for grind sizes.
@coffeenerdaaron
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, without comparing the cups directly side by side it’s hard to tell, another reason why the Gen 2 burrs are so good! I have seen and used a Kruve Brewler, its not bad but I feel like your eyes can be deceiving sometimes with small particles.
@officialMainspring
Жыл бұрын
broham... yoou make awesome vids. I enjoy them very much. I don't even own a Ode but I watch your vids on them anyway. Subbed!
@coffeenerdaaron
Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much!!!
@eligeorgia
Жыл бұрын
I think I’m in your target audience Aaron. One Ode, one set of GG burrs and one set of Gen 2 burrs! What’s a nerd to do!?? (Do not say “buy another Ode”!) Been using the GGs for a while (not aligned). My setting for V60 is up around 7 on the dial and that still is pushing too fine with clogging, depending on the beans. (Mostly light medium roasts). Cups are sweet with acidity, but also some astringency and bitter finishes. Guess I need to give the Gen 2s a go. One question. Where on the dial do you generally live when using the GGs? And the Gen 2s? Thanks for the great content!
@coffeenerdaaron
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! I’m typically around setting 4-5 when I brew with the Orea V3 and around 5-6 when brewing with a V60/Cafec. As you know there are a lot of variables that impact your brewing and taste. Just because it’s courser doesn’t mean it won’t clog. When you grind courser, with any burr, you have more inconsistent particle size and usually more fines are produced but it depends on the burr. That being said those varying sized particles and fines can create a clog. The more consistent the grind particle size the less likely the chance of clogging, to a certain extent. Obviously you can for too fine for a specific method or brewer. You may want to try playing with your water temp and water flow rate while pouring, also the level of roast can have an impact of the water’s ability to flow and extract. 🤘☕️
@dommymac7458
Жыл бұрын
Great video- good detail , not sitting on the fence and clear 👍would love to get a comparison on the niche grinder and on what grinders are best if u take milk in youre coffee ( I have my brew with big glug of milk )
@coffeenerdaaron
Жыл бұрын
Thanks! If I can get my hands on a Niche I’d love to make a video with it!
@RA1-1
Жыл бұрын
Just subscribed. Found your channel yesterday.
@coffeenerdaaron
Жыл бұрын
Thanks! I appreciate it 😊🤘☕️
@aqeelphillips6115
Жыл бұрын
It would be awesome to know what grind setting on the Ode correlates to the micron measurements you found :) just to get people out of the gate quickly with their new burrs when they’re watching this video as a reference
@braxtonjens7839
Жыл бұрын
Bro, Great content. And been subscribed since I saw the first vid. You on the discords?
@coffeenerdaaron
Жыл бұрын
Thanks man, I appreciate the support!!! I’m not really on discord, I’m not much of a forum guy but I probably should be more active on there!
@braxtonjens7839
Жыл бұрын
Ah no worries! Just thought I would ask. Awesome content. You made the kalita filter into the brewer, going all Peter McKinnon on us. 🤣🤘🏽
@coffeenerdaaron
Жыл бұрын
@@braxtonjens7839 😂
@benjaminbutton3476
Жыл бұрын
When is the Gorilla Gear vs SSP Cast video coming out?
@coffeenerdaaron
Жыл бұрын
I no longer have the Ode with the Cast burrs but I may be able to get it back in the future 😆
@fredbloggs6080
Жыл бұрын
I like cherry but not crazy about the flavor of graham crackers, so... That's a joke, I know it just reflects slight clarity distinctions in general. I am considering buying the Fellow Ode Gen 2 Coffee Grinder, but whoa!, $270 just for the Gorilla Gears alone--and I just do automatic drip brew--I don't think it's worth it.
@coffeenerdaaron
Жыл бұрын
😂 I would agree, you can buy the new Gen 2 Ode which comes with the new Gen 2 burrs already installed and it’s $345 I believe. I haven’t used my Ode with the Gorilla Gear burrs since getting the Gen 2 if that says anything…
@fredbloggs6080
Жыл бұрын
@@coffeenerdaaron I actually just ordered the Gen 2 Ode a few hours ago from Amazon--I believe it is drop shipped. All they had was white, but I like the white one.
@coffeenerdaaron
Жыл бұрын
@@fredbloggs6080 nice! Congrats 🤘☕️
@redrich2000
Жыл бұрын
You seemed to prefer the GG cup in the tasting but then recommended the V2 for filter at the end. Is that because of the value of the V2s?
@coffeenerdaaron
Жыл бұрын
Yes, for the money the Gen 2 are so close to the GG, I’d say 85-90% of the way there. So for the extra $200 I don’t think the GG are worth it unless you really want that slight edge on clarity, or you are going to put them in a more capable 64mm grinder and use them for filter and espresso, then I’d say go with the GG. But if all you primarily do is filter and already have an Ode I’d go with the Gen 2.
@crispypappadums
Жыл бұрын
Would you say that SSP MP vs Gen 2 are more apart in terms of taste/clarity than with the GG?
@coffeenerdaaron
Жыл бұрын
@@crispypappadums honestly after using the Gen 2 for a while now I like them better that the GG for filter. I think the GG are better for espresso. The clarity and body is really nice but the clarity with the MP is noticeable better, they just lack the body I prefer. For filter I feel like the Gen 2 are hard to beat unless you want all out clarity then the MP are the way to go. For me the GG shine more with espresso than filter. The body with the GG and Gen 2 are close but I think the Gen 2 clarity is a little better after they are seasoned well. Hopefully that answers your question? 😝
@crispypappadums
Жыл бұрын
@@coffeenerdaaron thank you for your much appreciated detailed answer! Btw, loving your videos and your friendly style of presentation!
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