I always liked the look of the Macchi C-202, I thought it was a very good looking monoplane. By the time the Italians were able to get powerful engines from Germany and start building monoplane fighters that were somewhat competitive it was to late for them
@jeffreysommer3292
Жыл бұрын
A really good analysis! I had generally been of the opinion that Italy's war production had peaked far too early, and were stuck with obsolete designs going into the War. I hadn't considered the trade and energy problems they would have after 1936.
@TheWarbirdMistress
Жыл бұрын
Yet another reason it made even LESS sense to keep producing old designs when resources were needed for the new designs. Check out the video whence this comes; you'll enjoy it.
@billestew7535
8 ай бұрын
If wars were won with beautiful paint jobs, pencil-thin mustaches, and superb coffee we would all be speaking Italian right now, great content Mistress, one of my tradesmen when I was an apprentice in the early eighties fought in the Italian Campaign and the only thing I was able to pry out of him about the war was you sure knew when you were fighting Italians and when you were fighting Germans, he also said that Sicily was one of the most beautiful places he had ever been and he was able to go back when he retired and was so glad to see it rebuilt.
@mr.samurai901
3 ай бұрын
Hello. I am really interested to know which combatant did he consider to be the harder enemy to fight? The Germans or the Italians ?
@Allan_aka_RocKITEman
Жыл бұрын
@TheWarbirdMistress >>> Even though biplane fighters were outclassed, they were -- and still are -- *oh so beautiful.*
@Allan_aka_RocKITEman
Жыл бұрын
FWIW: Every time I see a photo of a _Fairey Swordfish_ -- a.k.a. _Stringbag_ -- I get a little "🛩️❤️."
@paulmears5330
Жыл бұрын
Solid history, excellent explanation of the political and economic situation in Italy. And your period dress, Cosi Bella!
@TheWarbirdMistress
Жыл бұрын
That's just my usual fashion, so thank you! Check out the full video whence this comes for more on the Italians
@paulmears5330
Жыл бұрын
@@TheWarbirdMistress hooray for your usual fashion!😎
@mastathrash5609
Жыл бұрын
I always found it interesting how the Italians upgraded to 12.7 mm albiet usually only having 2 in a in a single aircraft so early. Whereas the japanese Kept using dual cowl mounted 30 caliber ish weapons far past their usefulness in air combat. And on later war mono plane designs as well. Also great video
@TheWarbirdMistress
Жыл бұрын
Thank you! The physics of it all is astounding when you consider how much time, raw material, and industrial energy was wasted by the Japanese on guns and rounds that had little to no effect on Allied fighters. I brought it up once in a discussion and actually figured out the production cost per Newton of force exerted on impact and it was beyond what anyone might imagine as being plausible.
@Allan_aka_RocKITEman
Жыл бұрын
@@TheWarbirdMistress>>> HOOMANS can be DUMB...🙄
@WildBillCox13
Жыл бұрын
It seems to me that the leaders of the next war's industries (and many of their chief designers) were still trying to fight the last war. This is (to me) evident in the Char B1, The Churchill, Valentine, T28/35, and the multiturret lights, like 7TP, T26, and early M2. Though theorists emphasized the game-changing potential of light, fast, massed armor formations, still the vehicles the generals and crews were given stank of first World War mindsets. The "Machine Gun Nest Destroyer" and "Landship" were ideas trampled over by exigency and experience. Even so, we see a lot of them in WW2. Enter the Cr32; perhaps the finest WW1 plane to never fight in that war. Facing Oswald Boelcke I would give up my noble's title for a Cr32. Against an 'urricane, however, I'd want a boom and zoomer. Or one of those new-fangled turret fighters. I read somewhere that they're the future of combat aviation.
@TheWarbirdMistress
Жыл бұрын
Italy was a notable exception in that way. Italy definitely had a better concept of combined arms and strategic logistics than nearly any other nation in the mid-30s. It was really Mussolini's policies, cronyism, and alienating wars that set Italy back. If he had truly embraced futurism and removed the party from the industrial resource battle, Italy would have been a wonderful ally in WWII. Instead, he chose a path of frustrating false starts and an aggressive attitude towards nations with whom Italy otherwise made natural allies. I recommend taking a peek at the whole video whence this was plucked to see what I mean.
@Hobgoblin1975
Жыл бұрын
Wish youtube would let me know when you post a video ( yeah bell thing did that) but now I can catch up on a bunch of videos at least.
@martryan2060
Жыл бұрын
Italy is not a natural country hence It always appears to be in a constant Game of political musical chairs ! It's a shame because it has class Culture and beauty in abundance But as unified entity . It's Babel! Great video Claire.👍
@TheWarbirdMistress
Жыл бұрын
I hope you saw the whole video, then. I get into the geographical dichotomy of mainland Italian pretty well and how internal migration and cronyism went hand in hand.
@martryan2060
Жыл бұрын
@@TheWarbirdMistress I have It's like in a America another Country with very little cohesion Between states a divide which is getting bigger every decade . They can only jump on the revolutionary bandwagon for so Long (so called patriotism when in fact legally some states don't even Recognize each other ) I love history I try and decipher The truth from what is available. My father and I have had this discussion on the russo-ukariane Conflict which we now call the New gulf war (1980/88) Two of the most corrupt economies In the world 122/136 in 2021 Rankings. Putin is Khomeini and Zelensky is the new boy Saddam . My other half works for the imagration services here in Ireland And the amount of males 20/50 That have arrived is astonishing Not a word in the media. As a regular reader of private eye Zelensky appeared to have had his own Corruption portfolio every fortnight Not a word about that in the west. I'm not political but I can read And hope to decipher the truth from the fodder put out to people who Basically think history begins and ends with Google. Take care Claire Wish there were more people who try and to understand history as we Do have a habit of repeating it . Take care ☀️ 👍🌞
@TheWarbirdMistress
Жыл бұрын
@@martryan2060 I don't know if I see that in the States, but I'll give it thought. On the East Coast we cross state borders without giving it a second thought, but our states are the size of some states' counties, I'm sure.
@martryan2060
Жыл бұрын
@@TheWarbirdMistress I just Think the post cold war way of life Of life is going to change Remember in Canada/America You had all the benefits of both Scenerios as in your Europe The average person in western Europe is worse off than 30 years Ago ect. Remember if a person gets into Housing for closure issues The debt stays with them even If you hand the keys back I'm paying 11 dollars exchange wise For gas per gallon. A McDonald's is 10/12 dollars There pretty small by your standards Have a good day Claire 👍
@timonsolus
Жыл бұрын
Mussolini’s big mistake was investing too much resources into the Italian navy, and not enough into the air force and army. Germany only built 2 15” gun, 45,000 ton battleships, Bismarck and Tirpitz. Italy tried to build 4: Littorio, Vittorio Veneto, Roma, and Impero. (Roma was only completed in June 1942 and never saw combat due to Italy’s shortage of oil, and Impero was never completed). Like Germany, Italy also built an aircraft carrier, Aquilia, that never saw service. Regarding oil, Italy was sitting on massive oil reserves in Libya, and never knew they were there.
@TheWarbirdMistress
Жыл бұрын
I covered the Libyan oil misfortune in the complete video linked in the description. The point about the navy is one I missed. I would say that until the moment the British cut off the coal, the Regia Marina was a great investment only because it held strategic influence as a fleet in being up until Taranto, and even afterwards at times. Had that same steel been put into aircraft, they may have been shot down before they could have had half that influence on Allied activity. Had it been put into tanks... Well, they might have decided to design some decent tanks.
@hlynnkeith9334
Жыл бұрын
A mistake often made is to think of the past in terms of the present. Today Italy is an industrial country. Before WW2, Italy was not industrial. One of the reasons Italy continued to produce open-cockpit biplane fighters is because it could. Switching to monoplane production required more industrial agility than Italy possessed. For a nightmare of industrial rigidity, have a look at Italian machine guns in WW1. I often heard that Italy learned the wrong lessons from the Spanish Civil War. I doubt that. Did the Italians not see the successes of the Condor Legion? I think the Italians learned the same lessons the Germans learned. The difference is that the Germans had the industrial agility to adapt; the Italians did not.
@TheWarbirdMistress
Жыл бұрын
The sad part is that they * could * have pushed towards producing more modern fighters if they had allocated what few resources they had. However, no local party goomba was going to accept being told that his cousins' husband, his other cousin, was going to lose out on a job because of this "modernisation" and "try not to lose the next war" type of thinking.
@TheWarbirdMistress
Жыл бұрын
I would also add that the Italians got a lot out of the war in Spain in terms of infantry and motorisation knowledge. The Luftwaffe had so thoroughly trounced the Communists by 1938 that Italy rarely had to concern herself with fighting I-16s and other, more modern aircraft.
@hlynnkeith9334
Жыл бұрын
@@TheWarbirdMistress I stipulate that Italian officers acquired knowledge of modern warfare. I deny that they possessed the means to practice it. In 1939, Italy had an army to win the 13th Battle of the Isonzo in 1918.
@hlynnkeith9334
Жыл бұрын
@@TheWarbirdMistress Point well made. My compliments.
@timonsolus
Жыл бұрын
@@TheWarbirdMistress : Actually, the Italian air force sent 764 aircraft of all types to the Spanish Civil War between 1936 and 1939. The German Luftwaffe sent only about half that number. Also, the Italian Fiat C.R.32 was a superior fighter to the German Heinkel He 51 biplane sent to Spain early in the conflict. The He 51 eventually had to be relegated to ground attack duties.
@HootOwl513
Жыл бұрын
I built an Italiieri 1/72 Reggiane Re-2002 [many years ago] and then was struck at how close to the Seversky P-35 it was. Basically they totally copied Alexander *Kartvelli's lines and improved the landing gear configuration with a stolen Curtiss design. Regia Aeronautica got good use out of the Re-2000, 2001, 2002 and 2005. But nothing like Republic's steroidal growth from P-35 to P-43 Lancer to P-47 Thunderbolt. [* Kartvelli was not Italian. He was from Georgia in Eastern Europe. He shortened his name from Kartvelishvilli when he got to America. Another White Russian, like Seversky and Sikorsky,]
@TheWarbirdMistress
Жыл бұрын
I love all of Kartvelli's designs! I enjoyed your use of the term "steroidal growth," and it absolutely fits. It's like watching an upgrade happen in a game lol
@HootOwl513
Жыл бұрын
@@TheWarbirdMistress Kartvelli also designed the F-84, XF-103, F-105 and the RC-3 Seabee. There is a persistant rumor that Reggiane was designing a sweptwing jet fighter as the Re-2007 -- looking much like an F-86. They never had the resources. Neo Fascisti hallucinations, IMO.
@jackjohnson2101
9 ай бұрын
The political analysis is primitive and full of errors. Best to stick to the equipment.
@TheWarbirdMistress
9 ай бұрын
I appreciate the comment. This is a clip of a larger video. I would welcome commentary on either so I can improve. I apologise for falling short.
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