ALSO today, I got the Google Coral TPU working, woohoo! Details here: www.jeffgeerling.com/blog/2023/pcie-coral-tpu-finally-works-on-raspberry-pi-5 And please note Pineberry Pi *also* sells the HatDrive! Bottom, a 2280-version of the board that slides just underneath the Pi 5. I didn't show it set up in this video but it's a really neat board that works with even more NVMe SSDs!
@greglawson9729
9 ай бұрын
Why would the Pi imager software not allow changing of settings?
@JeffGeerling
9 ай бұрын
@@greglawson9729It does; once you select an OS that allows settings to be modified it pops up the gear icon.
@greglawson9729
9 ай бұрын
Stopped doing that all together @@JeffGeerling
@dv7533
9 ай бұрын
that Bottom version seems interesting, I kind of want to combine it with an Intel Optane SSD and see what the performance is with the low latency and high IOps.
@user-tl7df2tn9l
9 ай бұрын
they should have just added the plug and play NVME slot so we as a customers do not need to modifying / buying an extra device just for a storage slot.
@brettfett74
9 ай бұрын
I’m hoping to see a dual NVMe hat with a PCIe switch at some point so I can run two drives in raid 1, but I’m not sure how well that would work with only one lane
@JeffGeerling
9 ай бұрын
I have been asking about this-it'd be nice for RAID 1 / RAIDZ1 for a little NAS... right now it would not support any kind of boot through the PCIe switch but that's not as big a deal for most of us who just want multiple storage devices! I think one or two makers will come up with solutions, so stay tuned!
@ChrisModjeska
9 ай бұрын
@@JeffGeerling There are PCI-e scheduler/multiplexer chips that IIRC work pretty well for storage. I have a mobo with one and it worked pretty well with only a very small increase in latency.
@dmangTV
9 ай бұрын
@@ChrisModjeska @JeffGeerling thats what i want to see too, any of those non-bifurcation boards with a 2-4 M.2 slots and a ASMedia ASM2806/ASM2812/ASM2824 or Broadcom/PLX PEX 8712/8724 chip with pcie adapters on the M.2 slots so they can be broken out to a handful of pcie devices. open questions are drivers and power availability tho
@Destructificial
9 ай бұрын
You know what would be even better? A HAT with a *real* PCIe connector, so you can just plug in whatever you want! 10Gb networking, video card? Sure!
@ZeroX252
9 ай бұрын
@@Destructificial The issue there is that it's a x1 interface.
@mtasapl
9 ай бұрын
Ooh, fancy! Getting a Pi 5 next week, this will be useful. Also happy to see that they make them locally here in Poland!
@JeffGeerling
9 ай бұрын
Gotta go fast!
@rysieko
4 ай бұрын
Joo, a guy from poland, Polska gurom
@buildyear86
3 ай бұрын
where can i read that pi 5 is made in poland?
@djdrwatson
9 ай бұрын
I think the HatDrive!Top could do with a big square hole in the board where the NVMe goes so that air from the CPU fan below can blow upwards and cool the bottom of the NVMe drive that's screwed in on top.
@ChrisModjeska
9 ай бұрын
I thought the same thing! Great idea! I believe the fan pulls in air from the top, which is even better.
@DevonsWorkshop
9 ай бұрын
The stock active cooler blows down.
@ArtursGarage
9 ай бұрын
Excellent idea, fan doesn't have to blow up though, blowing down will pull air from the top around SSD down to CPU heatsink below.
@davidvr2479
9 ай бұрын
And wouldn't it be easier to put the NVMe board underneath?
@user-vf1bo3tg1l
7 ай бұрын
the fan blows hot air, it won't cool but heat the ssd i think
@BrickTamlandOfficial
9 ай бұрын
7:27 "You might need to go in and out a couple times..." ~ Jeff Geerling 2023 I expect a fancy dinner first, Mr. Geerling
@dansummers2965
9 ай бұрын
I don't love that the new PCI-E connector is in basically the same place and a similar shape to where the DSI connector used to be, but other than that, it's pretty neat to see PCI-E on the Pi. Interested to see what new devices people can connect and use, over time.
@JeffGeerling
9 ай бұрын
Agreed on both accounts! FFC connectors are not the easiest to work with, either.
@danielpicassomunoz2752
9 ай бұрын
Isn't m.2 basically a pcie slot? If so, why didn't the just use that?
@peepopalaber
9 ай бұрын
space on the board @@danielpicassomunoz2752
@dansummers2965
9 ай бұрын
@@danielpicassomunoz2752 I _presume_ because they couldn't find the space on the Pi mainboard for a pcie slot - the FFC connector they used instead is a quarter of the size or less, and the Pi mainboard is very dense. But, I don't know. Typical M.2 storage deployments, though, are parallel to the board whereas pcie slots are perpendicular. So integrating an M.2 connector would mean either an SSD sticking out the side (bad) or an SSD overlapping most of the chips and passives on the board and maybe colliding with the USB and Ethernet ports (worse).
@FeuerToifel
9 ай бұрын
@@dansummers2965 i think the main reason is so you have more options on what you connect to pcie. if it would be M.2 on board, you are limited to that. sure, there are adapters to turn M.2 into pretty much anything else too. but i think the FFC connector was the best option bet to give the most versatility.
@marcogenovesi8570
9 ай бұрын
the PCB where they printed the logo is doing nothing (has no components on either side) and is just in the way for airflow. I understand a big logo is cool but please remove that part in the production model
@JeffGeerling
9 ай бұрын
Having a ground plane there may or may not affect things, but I agree, a future revision of this board could have some more opportunities for airflow (maybe even an integrated space for a fan, or a 3D printed duct!)
9 ай бұрын
Future versions hopefully will just be the m.2 edge slot and cable that goes to the pi. We don't need a whole card taking up space.
@Danrarbc
9 ай бұрын
@ The M.2 hold down is usually pretty important though.
@awwastor
9 ай бұрын
ehhh it’s a hat, it uses the rest of the pcb as construction material to attach properly. Making it in a non standard (non rectangular) shape would be expensive
@immatys
9 ай бұрын
@@awwastor totally agree with you. It's a hat. That's how a hat looks like.
@kyleolsen3305
9 ай бұрын
I have a set of ESD tweezers for various things. They come in really handy for those ribbon cables. I mostly use it for building keyboards, but they're invaluable however you use them.
@ExplainingComputers
9 ай бұрын
Great to see this Jeff -- some impressive results.
@JeffGeerling
9 ай бұрын
Thanks! I can't wait to see if someone makes a few other HATs to make an even more compact, fast little NAS box for the Pi!
@dominick253
9 ай бұрын
Yes... I've been patiently waiting for more pi5 content! Why isn't there a built in boot editor in the bios? At this point they really need to have it on by default to at least try sd first then other drives.
@JeffGeerling
9 ай бұрын
Honestly I'd love to see UEFI native on Pi, someday... we can dream...
@DarkestVampire92
9 ай бұрын
As much as i love the Raspberry Pi 5, i feel like theres still a lot of missed opportunities here when it comes to NVMe support. Or power management, for that matter- I had to previously scrap a project because of how little power you can actually feed to the Pi.
@JohnDoe-bd5sz
9 ай бұрын
I agree, why did they not just scrap the SDCard and put a NVME connector on the board itself. It is still a hazzle to get a Pi with a PoE and "Something other than SDCard" into a nice small package that can actually run solely off of PoE. Lets hope they ditch the SDCard in Rpi 6, i think i will just keep my 4b right now, it does what it is supposed to, but with a USB connected SSD sadly.
@LasseBuck
8 ай бұрын
@@JohnDoe-bd5sz I SO agree - they missed an obvious opportunity here. Hopefully, they will get it right in RP 6
@OliM9595
7 ай бұрын
@@JohnDoe-bd5sz they keep the SD card for education reasons. Schools can't afford those NVMe drives, even though they have got a lot cheaper. Not all projects require a fast and reliable drive. SD card is plenty for many people. Losing that option would be a shame,
@harz426
9 ай бұрын
That flimsy little ribbon cable was a MASSIVE misfire by Raspberry. People are going to screw that up in the millions. The Pi should've just had an NVMe drive on the bottom and called it a day. 🤦♂
@JustinEmlay
9 ай бұрын
All my Pis use an M.2 SSD to USB drive with the Argon One M.2 case. Fantastic solution! Very compact with great cooling. Will be interesting to test this against an SSD to see what real world benefits there are.
@JeffGeerling
9 ай бұрын
Argon One M.2 is the best solution for Pi 4, I am currently running two of them :) This should be a little faster at default Gen 2 speeds, mostly in the latency (USB to NVMe or SATA causes a little loss there), but a lot faster if you bump to Gen 3 speeds!
@maxgood42
9 ай бұрын
@@JeffGeerling I wonder what Argon40 will be making now...?
@apveening
9 ай бұрын
@@maxgood42 At a first guess, they will make Pi 5 cases with an M.2 bottom where you can use that FFC (completely internally to the assembled case), leaving all USB ports free.
@maxgood42
9 ай бұрын
@@apveening And then the Pi 5 NAS GOD.
@mattivirta
9 ай бұрын
argon case has tested and many other have lot worst than better ice tower but whit ice tower nt can use any HAT on board. and not have many case what can use. need plan and 3D print own case and all peoples not have printer.
@jfolz
9 ай бұрын
It's a shame they decided to go with the proprietary (?) ribbon connector rather than adding an m.2 slot to the Pi5. The ribbon might be a good (though not necessarily better) solution to connect oddball components, but I'd expect more people would use an m.2.
@JeffGeerling
9 ай бұрын
Can't disagree there! Their reasoning was it would add too much cost to fit an M.2 slot somewhere on the board (and probably require more layers on the PCB), but hopefully it happens someday.
@goblinslayer5404
9 ай бұрын
sure, if they were able to fit an m.2 slot on the board without making it bigger that would've been nice, if they weren't able to do that then they made the right choice
@jfolz
9 ай бұрын
@@goblinslayer5404 keeping in mind that I know nothing about electronics or board design, it certainly looks like a 2230 SSD would fit on top if you moved the heat-generating components out of the way. Maybe specify single-sided only if something needs to be mounted underneath it. At least there was enough space for a functionless resistor that tells you how much RAM is installed. It's an odd choice to have 2 HDMI _and_ 2 MIPI connectors, but not a single built-in option for reliable storage.
@taomicioli
9 ай бұрын
@@goblinslayer5404 orange pi 5 has a m.2 on the bottom of the board
@katherinesilens2994
9 ай бұрын
I hope Pi 6 goes with a different setup on GPIO. I would really like to see it as a sideways-angled connector so coolers and access to the board aren't restricted by HATs.
@JeffGeerling
9 ай бұрын
Not a bad idea; I've used 90° angled adapters for GPIO before, it would be nice to have that out of the way for many builds.
@vinniemoscaritolo3318
9 ай бұрын
How about this, make the plated it through holes again. Or offer the GPIO at the bottom - In my car radio project, I had to Tear out the GPO connector and flip it around so that I could call the raspberry pi 4 properly - Until they understand that the GPIO cannot be in the same direction as the fan The raspberry pie is not a viable industrial platform
@jyvben1520
9 ай бұрын
@@vinniemoscaritolo3318 viable industrial platform, which is why they have the compute modules
@CyberDunk2077
9 ай бұрын
They must be developing the PI 6 now considering how long the PI 5 was in the oven. 90 degree header would make soo many other project ideas possible. You can buy a 40 pin 90 degree header and fit it yourself if you are handy with a soldering iron. I got one fitted to my PI Zero 2 W.
@timseguine2
9 ай бұрын
@@vinniemoscaritolo3318 Ah yes, "not a viable industrial platform", which is why the raspberry pi is widely used as an industrial platform...
@TwistedMe13
9 ай бұрын
3:16 Velcro Command strips. That way you can use that device one-handed without risking a Red Shirt Jeff moment.
@SomeoneBloodyRandom
9 ай бұрын
Keeping the little bits you normally "edit out" remind us that you are indeed human and redshirtjeff has not replaced you with a robot (Though knowing RSJ, we would know anyway!). EDIT: Geez, I need more coffee in my system... My typing is all over the place today!
@IggyJackson
9 ай бұрын
I'm digging the mix of "produced" and "ad hoc" content you've been doing lately. Let's me know you're a real person that makes the occasional mistake that you don't edit out
@imaginair
9 ай бұрын
Out of context: "Sometimes you have to go in and out a few times to if everything is straight"
@JeffGeerling
9 ай бұрын
😳
@KingTheRat
9 ай бұрын
Personally, I'm a little disappointed with the development path of the newer Raspberry Pi's. It is no longer a cheap, affordable SBC. Instead, the Pi and its accessories now easily add up to $100-$200, and requires a lot of power to run. I recently purchased a Dell USFF mini PC for just $45 off of eBay, and that easily out performs the Raspberry Pi by 4-5X in processor speed. I'm just glad that the Pi Zero W still exists.
@przemasprzemas5090
9 ай бұрын
You are absolutely right. Pi Zero W with 1 GB will be best cheap SBC
@intensecutn
7 ай бұрын
You said it yourself. The pi zero exists. Can you fit your Dell laptop in a pi5 case? It really depends what your needs are. If you need a laptop, buy a laptop. If you need a pi zero, buy a pi zero. If you need a pi5, buy a pi5.
@linus_staf
9 ай бұрын
Just ordered the bottom version. Got an “old” Samsung 950 pro lying around that will fit my pi 5 and this perfectly!
@techadsr
9 ай бұрын
Wow. I just read about those NVME hat and bottoms yesterday and put off ordering them until I saw a review. VERY TIMELY!!!
@johnq.public2621
7 ай бұрын
Please let us know how they are working out for you.
@techadsr
7 ай бұрын
@@johnq.public2621 my RPi5 arrives in another month or so. Seems the original 2024 RPi5 dates reported a year ago were right. Only early eval deliveries happened last year. Now pre-orders are quite backlogged.
@techadsr
7 ай бұрын
@@johnq.public2621seems RPi5 can be ordered for overnight delivery is you're willing to pay a $50 premium. Could that be why pre-orders for $80 are out of stock?
@techadsr
6 ай бұрын
@@johnq.public2621 @JeffGeerling Finally received my RPi5. My experience with the Pineberry Hat using an inland TN325 1TB all mounted in the topless (see point 3 below) official RPi5 case is similar to Jeff's. The inland seems to be slightly faster than the one Jeff used. I haven't stressed it much while it's been in the case without the top but cpu temp seems to stay under 60C, ranging from 54C - 58C. Downside 1a: In order to change the nvme drive, the Pineberry hat must be unscrewed from the standoffs since the nvme retaining screw is inaccessible between RPi5 and the hat. Pineberry did not provide short enough screws that would allow attaching the the brass retaining nut from the bottom such that the nvme drive could be screwed down from the top. Somehow, Jeff was able to screw his drive down from the top. I would have had the screw sticking up by many threads and not holding the nvme drive down tightly. Downside 1b: If the GPIO extender in installed, it's a pita to disassemble in order to change the nvme drive. I noticed a few reviews showing the hat being installed without the GPIO extender but none with it. Downside 2: Neither Raspberry Pi nor Pineberry include longer screws to secure the standoffs from the bottom of the case. If the standoffs are screwed on with the Pineberry supplied short screws, then it doesn't fit in the case. Downside 3: The Pi case snap-in top rests on top of the Pineberry hat board instead of sliding down on the four corners. A rubber band can hold it on though. 🩹 There are traces on the Pineberry Hat that connect a few GPIO pins to the rest of the board. IIRC, one was power but I thought power was delivered through the FPC. The Pineberry bottom testing will need to wait until I find a case that can house it and the official Raspberry Pi PoE hat comes out.
@sebastianotrunfio5
9 ай бұрын
the card with the ssd would be better mounted at the bottom with a thermal pad or a small heatsink. because with the direct heat of the fan it could overheat. further tests would be needed on this matter.
@dezmondwhitney1208
9 ай бұрын
Thank you for pushing the technology along so that it is useable by the rest of us, who are not so clued up in this Tech.
@centurion8446
9 ай бұрын
Good stuff. Someone will start making cases to fit the HATs and the fan in etc
@neillthornton1149
9 ай бұрын
Just spied a Mikrotik switch in that rack. Solid choice. They have seriously stepped up their game in the last few years, and no home labber should be without one or more!
@JeffGeerling
9 ай бұрын
I love the value of Mikrotik's gear. So much hardware for so little cash!
@timbambantiki
9 ай бұрын
i love that the hat is made in poland, super close to me
@kstricl
9 ай бұрын
Just wondering if you could just flip the bottom standoffs upside down on the Pi case (using screws through the bottom) and then the next standoffs would screw down on the Pi itself. Nice video, glad to see this capability finally.
@theodricaethelfrith
9 ай бұрын
Nice. Ordered a HatDrive! Bottom. It would be real nice now if Pimoroni would ship the Pi5 that was supposed to go out at the end of October.
@gkseifert
9 ай бұрын
That external nvme to usb docking adapter specifically states an incompatibility with that Maker ssd, I think. From it's description: "Compatible with M.2 NVMe SSD ONLY........ NOT Support PCI-e Based M Key AHCI SSD, or any B/B+M Key SATA Based SSD. " It seemed to work for you. What am I missing? Is that SSD B/B+M Key, but not SATA Based?
@riccardosacchetti
9 ай бұрын
Ordered!! Poland to Italy without problem!!
@CaptZenPetabyte
9 ай бұрын
I hope that we shall some day get these out here in Australia ... the supply of this sort of stuff is hens teeth out here
@themadscientist_x89b6
9 ай бұрын
I pre ordered a complete pi 5 kit i can now confirm I'm very hyped for it maybe nvme drives will be fully integrated by the time it arrives
@Reihenmotor5
5 ай бұрын
It’s nice that Raspberry Pi has updated their imager to update the eeprom now. No need to edit, after imaging the NVME the Pi Imager Software has a pop-up that says you can remove the SD Card. Imager my Crucial P3 last night from within Pi OS. Nice to see Raspberry Pi supporting NVME natively.
@79ober
9 ай бұрын
Hi @JeffGeerling, thanks for using the MakerDisk NVMe SSD! Great review!
@grahambalderstone2308
8 ай бұрын
Just got my HatDrive! Bottom, and tested installing and booting from NVME and it works!
@christophmuller3511
9 ай бұрын
They should have added an on board NVME M.2 slot on the bottom of the PCB. The hat solution is worse than the existing CM4 adapter board from waveshare.
@VerseChorusCurse
6 ай бұрын
@JeffGeerling that hat and a M.2 to six SATA port adapter for a nice little RAID NAS setup looks tempting
@humangod
9 ай бұрын
Would love to have a custom pcie hat that includes both a 2.5Gbps NIC and an nvme slot. Would make for an awesome little NAS.
@quirbiefe7544
9 ай бұрын
You just know that Jeff's going to try to put a 4090 with the 2280 one 👀 It's amazing to hear that finally the SSDs are finally getting some love! Amazing video as always.
@nickcorr7244
7 ай бұрын
Really cool Jeff, really liked your delivery and detail. Thanks
@hellcoreproductions
9 ай бұрын
I hope they work out the board layout in the next version for a proper connector.
@darren6202
7 ай бұрын
Thanks Jeff. Just installed this on my Pi 5 - After watching this review. Awesome. Thanks for the advice.
@PiDsPagePrototypes
9 ай бұрын
The hat drive bottom will be much more useful for anyone using the CSI/DSI ports for cameras and HDMI capture boards.
@mattivirta
9 ай бұрын
and many other important board need adding, better plan all under to raspi all board, HDMI,music board RCA,optic plug, power boards,many have need use but if use best cooler ice tower not can use any. this is worst big fail at raspberry. same not have modular cases what can use if use normal many different HAT boards.
@ScottPlude
9 ай бұрын
I was really hoping Red Shirt Jeff was gonna be a guest in this video.
@JeffGeerling
9 ай бұрын
I have him off working on other things to try to finish up the new construction without incident right now :D
@ChrisRichardsonCLE07
9 ай бұрын
I'm excited to get my first 5 and how I'm going to have to get the HatDrive Bottom to go with it. It would be nice if you could use both at the same time 1 for boot and 1 for storage, but I guess if you really just want a separate boot drive you're stuck with the MicroSD card for now.
@JeffGeerling
9 ай бұрын
Yeah; hopefully they can get a board with a PCIe switch, and have two NVMe on one adapter!
@fabriglas
2 ай бұрын
Pine berry should put the a deeper terminations on the underside, the fpc are ok but if they left enough standoff for the fans be awesome!
@MakeKasprzak
9 ай бұрын
I would love to use an Intel Optane drive with the new Pi. The IOPS should be insane, and given that they're discontinued the prices can be ridiculously cheap.
@MachFarcon
9 ай бұрын
That's super awesome. I might have to pick one of the bottom ones to see if I can run the RPi over PoE using the PoE hat and the bottom NVMe board. Power might be an issue, but if I can possibly PoE something, I'm certainly going to try.
@CristiIstrate
9 ай бұрын
Just got my 5 in Romania, I alerady put it to work, replacing my 4 mini server. Nice work with your video!
@DIYtechie
9 ай бұрын
So strange to me that the Pi5 does not have an m.2 slot without needing a hat. All the add-ons adds to the price and makes a Pi5 less a less interesting option.
@jamescollins6085
9 ай бұрын
I'm disappointed by the Pi 5. The lack of 2.5Gb ethernet or an NVMe M.2 slot is a shame given all the additional bandwidth on offer that I feel was wasted on multiple USB 3.0 controllers and the second camera/display connector. I'd be quite happy to pay a premium for a SKU with such features. Hopefully they release a Pi 500 with them soon.
@Leo-uy4qv
Ай бұрын
I would plug that platform underneath , make it a base with spacers and leave to heatsink exposed for better airflow
@DoublesC
9 ай бұрын
Can't wait for you to test a google tensor card on the raspberry pi !
@darknessblades
9 ай бұрын
One thing they should do is add grooves to the PCB under the SSD. otherwise the fan could blow up due the lack of air. this would add some slightly better cooling potential to the board.
@sivasanthoshr.m2222
9 ай бұрын
Hard drive ❌ Hat drive ✅
@AndrewTSq
9 ай бұрын
The price was better than expected, but I think I prefer the buttom version they had for this. Also since it takes normal sized drives which are cheaper here.
@Da_GrandiMan
7 ай бұрын
Where can I find a case, for the Pine berry bottom & a Pi5 active cooler ? I am not opposed to the layered acrylic cases . Do you have a list of retailers, for the case, bottom hat & active cooling fan ? Thx !
@Steamrick
9 ай бұрын
The next step is clearly a m.2 to u.2 adapter and running PiOS on a huge enterprise drive (with external power).
@JeffGeerling
9 ай бұрын
30 TB SSD, I'm in! :D
@alvallac2171
9 ай бұрын
*an M.2 (because "emm dot too" begins with a vowel sound) "A" vs "an" is determined by the *sound* that immediately follows, not the letter.
@Anthony-cw2kn
9 ай бұрын
that sticker on your Mac Studio lol💀
@TradieTrev
9 ай бұрын
Awesome teaching as always Jeff! None of that red shirt Jeff quality :P
@JeffGeerling
9 ай бұрын
I won't tell Red Shirt Jeff you think his quality is reduced :D
@ronb6182
5 күн бұрын
They need something like this for the pi 4 they are still in production. A hat display would be nice. 73
@terrorpup
9 ай бұрын
Cool, I know with the Pi you could use USB which was nice, if you had the Argon cases that came with either M.2 SATA or M.2 NVMe. I hope Argon updates their case so you can run the ribbon to the storage tray. This is cool.
@79ober
9 ай бұрын
They will :)
@apveening
9 ай бұрын
@@79ober My expectation as well.
@austing.8682
7 ай бұрын
looking forward to the PCI testing video! Love this content
@JPBennett
9 ай бұрын
I'm really hoping the inevitable Pi 500 has an NVMe slot built-in. That will be cool.
@brylozketrzyn
9 ай бұрын
even Pi5 could have M.2 on the bottom. Two holes or soldered nuts would not made it hard to implement
@alvallac2171
9 ай бұрын
*would be cool.
@JPBennett
9 ай бұрын
@@alvallac2171 let me have my optimism, dang it! =)
@nogrend
9 ай бұрын
Finally, was waiting for this video for weeks! Thank you.
@haukewalden2840
9 ай бұрын
One day, maybe on a Raspi 7, Jeff will manage to get his 6090Ti running and will play TuxCart with 1000fps. And the next day, he'll lean back, stare at the ceiling, and he'll ask himself: "And now?" 🙂 Great work you're doing here, @JeffGeerling!
@haruny
Ай бұрын
kick ass tutorial. thank you for this. top knotch.
@Jasenkob
9 ай бұрын
The waveshare cm4 carrier board ( cm4-io-base-a / b ) has an nvme slot. It works really nice! The nvme slot is on the bottom which doesn't stand in the way of coolers or heatsinks on the top.
@marshallpoe8087
8 ай бұрын
Wow, I had my Raspberry Pi running off an M.2 NVMe for quite a while. Several years ago I bought an Argon One M.2 Adapter and what a difference it made.
@user-nt1eq2tp5t
9 ай бұрын
Is there any reason why this module is not under the board?
@koliberk
7 ай бұрын
Great video 👍 I'm testing for the last few days RPi5 with NVMe Base from Pimoroni with M.2 SSD 256GB. All works great, thanks to your guidance Jeff, I can do so much more with my RPi5 😀👍
@marcusk7855
9 ай бұрын
In nano you can just ctrl-s to save then ctrl-x to exit. Only need to ctrl-o if you want to save as a different name. It just saves pressing enter in between.
@JeffGeerling
9 ай бұрын
I...... will need to update my muscle memory!
@eDoc2020
9 ай бұрын
When I tried this in nano 2.2.6 I only got a message that XOFF was ignored. ^S to save must be something only in newer versions.
@edgarmatzinger9742
9 ай бұрын
Why the 'sudo curl'? Shouldn't 'curl | sudo bash' suffice?
@kyleolsen3305
9 ай бұрын
You should get a top down camera so you don't have to pan back and forth so much handheld. I had to close fullscreen mode because i was starting to feel like i ate too much pi
@erikn2596
9 ай бұрын
I have NVMe with a couple of my RPi Compute Module 4
@Jon_Carleton
4 ай бұрын
Good job. Very useful. The shutdown command, however, requires a "now" modifier to avoid the delay. Typically, "sudo shutdown now." Also, and it depresses me to mention, but apparently ifconfig is being depreciated in favor of an "io" and "ss" pair of commands. I don't care for them much, but they didn't ask me.
@JimBloggins1
9 ай бұрын
Im very curious about boot times with this. I have an openauto project in mind and want the boot time as fast as possible
@cdl0
9 ай бұрын
Surely a "hat" for feet should be a "shoe"! 🙂
@tuxgoo8647
9 ай бұрын
This needs to be directly on pi board. Way too much hassle as it is now...
@mattybbg6850
9 ай бұрын
Two videos in one week, Jeff your spoiling us.
@JeffGeerling
9 ай бұрын
Heh, just trying to get some of these things done before I tear down my desk for the office move :D
@mattybbg6850
9 ай бұрын
@@JeffGeerling Good luck with the move.
@geniustrash
9 ай бұрын
Hey Jeff, long time viewer here. Just wanted to say - no need to edit the "embarrassing"/"funny" bits out. It was a nice fresh breeze to see other video formats instead of your regular ones (the more... let's say... professional). This video that is kinda vlog-like is really good. Here's to more videos mate, cheers!
@scytob
Ай бұрын
great video, boot from network was far easier way to install the piOS straight to the nvme - no need for an SD card, commands or editing text files - this is a great new feature that is built into the firmware on the latest shipping pi5 devices
@JeffGeerling
Ай бұрын
Main issue with some installed is it needs wired Ethernet. I always have that available at my studio but some places that can be hard to get access to! But I do like network installation
@scytob
Ай бұрын
@@JeffGeerling aren't option great - i recommend most home users (not you ;-) ) have a 100m CAT5 cable then you have a ethernet port anywhere in your house for the 15 mins for the initial install, then swap back to wifi when installed
@DefinitelyNotSpam
7 ай бұрын
To set NVMe as default boot, you can do the following: sudo rasp-config 6 Advanced Options A4 Boot Order B2 NVMe/USB Boot
@cfazio
9 ай бұрын
I have a longer nvme drive in a metal case, plugged into the usb port on my Pi 5. I boot from that. I will consider that hat in the future though, it looks like a good solution.
@user-qk1tz9xu3s
7 ай бұрын
Ironically, the pi computer was originally innovative because it could boot from a cheap micro sd card instead of a hard drive. Ever since then people have been trying to improve the pi so it can boot from ssd! Perhaps we could all have saved a lots of time if the original had needed a hdd!! It makes you wonder what is really progress and what isn’t?
@HaydonRyan
9 ай бұрын
Cannot wait to see 5 of these in a 2u rack. Running k8s
@rursus8354
9 ай бұрын
I once used a slow external rotating hard disk for a Pi and used it as a Samba share. Incredddibly slow. This looks better.
@AceLightningGames
4 ай бұрын
Placing such things on top of RPi will reduce air exchange and it can cause performance issues, such extending boards must be mounted under Pi board.
@terryclair2914
9 ай бұрын
Thanks Jeff always informative!
@prisoner59954
9 ай бұрын
‘My other pi 5’ such a 2023 flex.
@pierretardif3242
9 ай бұрын
casually pans to the right where there is 20CM4 stacked up, :)
@JeffGeerling
9 ай бұрын
Hehe, if you look close, there are a number of CM4 clones-been working on a video on all those!
@AaronEbrahim
9 ай бұрын
Sweet. Nice work as always thanks for the video.
@DAVIDGREGORYKERR
9 ай бұрын
What about a water block and setup a cooling circuit that will keep the processor nice and cold.
@ralcool5932
9 ай бұрын
The first and only guy who has an actual need for 'Linux Distros' on his massive storage array.
@fredrik241
9 ай бұрын
That was a fun video to see what speeds we can get with the pcie port. And only one handed you're pushing against the frontier! Next video can you do No Hands at all!?!?
@JeffGeerling
9 ай бұрын
Using only the power of my mind!
@KennyMacDermid
9 ай бұрын
In case it help, `dmesg` accepts a level, so `dmesg --level=warn+` will reduce noise (or even `err+`)
@gedw99
9 ай бұрын
saw this 3 months ago on the Pi shop. then dissappeared the next day. it was still cooking I guess. this is game changer btw
@eraldorh
8 ай бұрын
That m.2 ssd you're plugging in appears to be a sata drive as it has 2 notches an M and B key, an nvme drive only has an M notch.
@anon_y_mousse
9 ай бұрын
I don't know if it's because I've been lucky or if it's my configuration, but I've never had an SD card fail in a Pi. My configuration is simple, put the OS and all of its requisites on an SD card and setup the home folder as a mount on a USB flash drive. Most frequently you'll get a lot of reads and writes from /home and for the most part the OS will really only ever be read, and even if you're writing to both, it'll be easier to duplex. I started with 64gb for the SD card and a 64gb flash drive, and by the time I stopped using a Pi as my desktop computer I had upgraded the flash drive to 256gb but still had the same SD card 6 years later. Another possible contributing factor is the only time I power cycled it is when there was an extended blackout in my area. Sadly I had at least a couple dozen blackouts in that time, but all except for the past two winters they were generally only an hour or two in length. While I still use my Pi to this day, I don't use it as hard, mostly just to play media on the TV in the living room, so I wouldn't count the past 3 years towards its use, but if you do then that's 9 years without a failure.
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