3:00 Aim-9L had an identity crisis and thought it was an R-60M
@black_thunder2159
Жыл бұрын
guy dint radar slave + noone flared + F-14 is too hot
@ovrwrldkiler
Жыл бұрын
@@black_thunder2159 Radar slaving wouldnt have done anything there. It was clearly tracking the right target initially, and IR missiles dont care what you do at all after they are off the rails. Its really just f14 being hot AF and crossing in front of the original target. Spit didnt really do anything wrong there, especially since the f14 wasn't anywhere near his target when he fired. Just a case of shit luck or unfortunate circumstance.
@crazeelazee7524
Жыл бұрын
@@black_thunder2159 That's why I called it an R-60M, the missile was tracking the enemy at first but then switched targets. R-60Ms will always go after the hottest target while the Aim-9L tends to stick to the intended target.
@mujtam
Жыл бұрын
That’s what my 9L does, but when I play another nation at this BR, I dump all my flares and the 9L still tracks and turns me into fireworks
@MAV_509
Жыл бұрын
At 3:25, The AIM-7Ms are model as a carbon copy to the AIM-7F so it really wouldn't do anything.
@niggalini
Жыл бұрын
IRL the AIM-7M's upgrades over the 7F lies in its monopulse tracking system, think of it as a 7F but with smarter brains. Have no idea if that difference is even modelled in game though
@thatsnomoon4221
Жыл бұрын
@@niggalini no it's not moddeled since every CW seeker acts the same in terms of ground clutter and stuff
@emilw9690
Жыл бұрын
Its interesting how I can agree with pretty much everything you say, and then you call having flares vs. not having flares a "minimal difference" in the 10.7-BR.. Whatever you smoked before recording it must have been real good :)
@OtterMusician
Жыл бұрын
while it does make a difference in ease of survivability… both jets are just as capable of bagging kills as each other. There’s also precedent for vehicles in a similar situation being at the same BR. The Mirage IIIE and C are both 10.3 with the only real difference being flares and weight.
@miyukiteishi9051
Жыл бұрын
I know right lol, he has to be trolling
@jaxastro3072
Жыл бұрын
@@OtterMusician J35D only carries 2 9Js whilst the XS carries 6. That's a pretty significant difference in kill potential, especially when the guns on both of them are hot shit since they lost their tracers. Viggen's is useable since it has high velocity, low drop and high damage, whereas the ADENs on the Drakens are slow, high drop and love to spark
@Spitflyer
Жыл бұрын
Ok I feel like I need to address this. In the context of the 20-odd seconds around this comment I make it clear that we currently lack the spacing of BRs to distinguish differences such as flares/no flares. This is also apparent with the Mirage IIIs. In the grand scheme of the game (ie, 12 BRs and a vast array of planes, it seems to be such that flares comprise of a “minute difference” in the overall capability of an aircraft to get kills and win matches and that difference is unable to constitute much in the way of BR separation. I clearly state that flares are definitely useful and they are especially at 10.7 but in context this should be understandable as nothing but a small differentiation in the design of the aircraft, or perhaps some comedic hyperbole rather than a statement on the capability of either aircraft.
@Firewordien
Жыл бұрын
Sadly some of these are really bad...
@mayonotes9849
Жыл бұрын
It won't be Gaijin if they don't do something horrible.
@MANNYzZ
Жыл бұрын
The harrier gr7 is going up for some reason it should stay 11.3 or go back to its original 11.0
@kit6818
Жыл бұрын
Not littlekittokattos fault for single handedly raising the BR of the Seafire FR 47 xD
@itsoxide3812
Жыл бұрын
Italy suffers.
@mayonotes9849
Жыл бұрын
@@MANNYzZ 11.0? Fuck no. That thing has 4 9Ls, really good acceleration and also shit load of countermeasures.
@CutePoisonEU
Жыл бұрын
We really need separate Ground and Air realistic BR for planes. I understand the issue of A-10/SU-25 (although always only when I play against them, mine is never OP :D ) but any movement of these planes from where they sit pretty much damages the Ground line-ups they are based around - especially the Gold standard of USSR 9.7
@cammarlow3951
Жыл бұрын
Ussr 9.7 grb could stand to go up as well though. Turms-T and 2s38 certainly could easily be 10.0
@acolbymyers
Жыл бұрын
Don't agree at all with this
@CutePoisonEU
Жыл бұрын
@@cammarlow3951 Oh sure it could, but then the marketing pitch is gone for Gaijin. This way there are 3 solid vehicles, same BR, all purchasable and "under 10.0"
@cammarlow3951
Жыл бұрын
@@CutePoisonEU very true
@CutePoisonEU
Жыл бұрын
@@cammarlow3951 And similar thing would be with the A-10, at least perception wise. Now it is matched with the first Abrams, so it shows as a milestone and gets people in. Would it not work at 10.3? Sure would. 10.7? Most likely. Then there is the careful balance of enjoyment of playing those planes vs playing against them - from being completely powerless with many gun SPAA being Mavericked from beyond your range on one side, to being shot down by beam-riding AA missile without getting a single radar warning, 8km out. Bottom line is, I understand the things are more of an issue in Air RB because they are truly disrupting, but frankly not as impactful in ground - here I think Helis are bigger issue.
@evangalinsky2499
Жыл бұрын
5:20 THANK YOU, you're one of the first people I've seen use the HMS in the MiG-29 properly with free look to launch a 27T. About time, these things have been out like a month. Also personally the J-35D at 10.3 so long as the 21MF and SMT are there is fine with me. They've always been comparable planes but now the 35D doesn't have flares like the 21's do. It should at least be the same BR. It's flight performance doesn't make up for not having flares. That's why the XS is so good even though it only has 12 total flares/CM's.
@yudongli2108
Жыл бұрын
10.3 get some relief finally. Totally agree with you about the F-14. It should be the highest if not one of the highest BR among all the top tiers now
@bitofapickle
Жыл бұрын
Doesn't matter...Sabres are other subsonics are still facing all aspect missiles and supersonics. And ww2 heavy tanks are still getting insta penned by heatfs lobbing cold war tanks
@M3PH11
Жыл бұрын
2:56 Everyone forgets that the pheonix's don't work anymore.
@InterstellarTaco
Жыл бұрын
Not going to lie the F104 at 9.3 is extremely lucrative
@itsoxide3812
Жыл бұрын
G91YS fans watching from the background
@yokoplayinggames7019
Жыл бұрын
As a person who plays the Starfighters in Italy a lot, I say that we need 12.3, the F-104S's are not capable enough against the higher tier vehicles. But giving them a down tier would make them unbalanced being able to meet 9.7 planes.
@GreenAndSuited
Жыл бұрын
I was so happy to see that my F4F wasn't gonna get shafted by 4th gens too much anymore, though I was disappointed as to how the su22 stayed on the same BR. Oh well, can't have everything.
@NATORDEN
Жыл бұрын
Everyone on the forums suggested the F-14 to go to 12.0, gaijins excuse, it already moved up 1 bracket
@legendbee9579
Жыл бұрын
F104J remain at 10.7 while j35D moves down (it need too) when both have the same problem
@bubblesofthecoast6393
Жыл бұрын
Only difference is that no one plays the F-104J so Gaijin got not data on it
@norske_ow3440
Жыл бұрын
I tried it for about 3 matches and got slapped silly by f14s every match
@jordancourse5102
Жыл бұрын
I agree the F14 should be 12.0. 10.0 may still get stomped by 11.0 but it may not be that bad but then again it's a shitload of premium spam at that BR.
@braedynhoward3644
Жыл бұрын
I recently got the SU 25 for 50% off (I know, people will hate me for that but I need to grind), and I completely agree with it being 10.0. I get like 3 kills per match, sometimes more, as well as a base and 10 to 20 ground targets... it's an insane plane at that BR.
@MANNYzZ
Жыл бұрын
It should be probably 10.3 you get 2 free kills with missiles and guns are really good and literally nobody uses it as a strike aircraft everyone just uses it As a fighter
@braedynhoward3644
Жыл бұрын
@@MANNYzZ At 10.3 you would face 11.3s...idk. The A10 yes. R60s are not nearly as good as the 9L, they go after every little flare.
@kingalbby2497
Жыл бұрын
I think there is still issues at the o Low end of the jet BRs. Mainly everything from 7.7 to 8.7. Depending on what line in a tree you a grinding the first jets you start with are 8.3. In my case my first jet was the f2h. And immediately I was thrown into a situation where I could not learn how to fly a jet because I didn't have an opportunity to learn energy for jets. I just needed to turn a pull hard to dodge Aim9Bs. Fortunately I learned because I did out side research and got some tips. I now am playing the Japanese Saber at 8.7 and it is a complete pain trying to fight mig21 and 23s. I have to fight the yak 38's missles and the su-25k. It is a struggle. I can manage but for a new player I don't think they really can.
@thunderousavenger2382
Жыл бұрын
Skill issue on yak38 and mig21. Tho the su25s i can understand. And no offense. Literally 95% of players are on the same skill as you currently are on. But generally it is a very beginner unfriendly game. I recommend you just start doing 1v1s to maybe get a basic grasp on how to dogfight. And that in turn means you get to live longer as you will start understanding how to dodge guns better. Where to turn. But mig21s and yak38s arent really an issue for me personally. Even if i sit in an f35 sabre. The actual problem with these aircraft comes from them just decimating half your team within 20 seconds. And then you die as a result of your team being gone.
@SPFLDAngler
Жыл бұрын
First thing I do when a new plane is available for research is to test drive it. See if I like it. If I do I dedicate quite a bit of time to practicing with it in test drive before I unlock it. Then once I have it I take it into test drive mission editor and spend a few hours doing head to head with AI to get a handle on it before I ever take it into matchmaking Rule #1 of War Thunder: Know your aircraft(what it’s capable of and being able to use it)
@thunderousavenger2382
Жыл бұрын
@@SPFLDAngler you know you can also just go to custom games man.... there you actually learn how to handle ur aircraft. All u need to do is ask for a 1v1
@kingalbby2497
Жыл бұрын
@@thunderousavenger2382 I have had countless games were those R-60 destroy the game. I have had multiple matches where I am even more than 5km away heading to base and right as I menuver to line up on the airfield. Boom R-60 that was stealth launched. I can handle myself I a dog fight in most case. But I can't stick to one with r-60s around.
@kingalbby2497
Жыл бұрын
I really don't think right now my issue is how to fly that Japanese f-86f-30. I have a positive KD and an ok win rate. But every bad match I have has the same things in common. Missles that are just not defeatable or aircraft that have every performance advantage over me. It is so hard forcing a miss play and capitalizing on it when there is that large of a discrepancy when It comes to performance.
@JSDFEnthusiast
Жыл бұрын
A lot of these rely on the whole "it has aim-9L's" reason and that gives quite a bit of reason but I think flight performance and potential of a vehicle is more important. Because when everyone is empty and missiles are done and wasted the only reason I'm getting 5 kills every game compared to any other A-10 is knowing how to trap jets and aim the hardest hitting gun. It needs to go up but because of a load of reasons not just missiles.
@superbuster11
Жыл бұрын
I have many matches in A-6E when I just losing all my AIM-9L's 'coz everybody know how to avoid them with flares. I can partially agree to put all AIM-9L jets to at least 10.3 but what does it change? There are many jets with no countermeasures at 9.3-9.7 BR, and even some at 10.0-10.3.
@aratay3117
Жыл бұрын
@@superbuster11 it would at least get them away from 9.0's people quit playing
@alanamato9382
Жыл бұрын
In the British now to reach rank 8 they need 4 aircraft but there are only three development a premium and a squadron, well done Gajjin again
@MANNYzZ
Жыл бұрын
2 jaguar and 2 phantoms what u talking about
@Roho22
Жыл бұрын
I was close to starting the f14 grind and now I’ve got to get the f3d to a10 late to actually unlock rank 8 aircraft. Timing of these changes was so damn unlucky for me, not to mention the fact half of these changes are crap
@jaxastro3072
Жыл бұрын
9:16 J35XS also carries 2 more 9Js than the J35D
@Spitflyer
Жыл бұрын
I just found that out recently, what a joke
@drierwhisper729
Жыл бұрын
the ejkai only gets Aim7Es and 7Fs not E2s
@thatduckguy2955
Жыл бұрын
The f4j and the viggen is not the same. The viggen gets two radar missiles and to aim 9 j meanwhile the f4j gets eight radas missiles and 4 aim 9 g so a total of 12 missiles versus 6
@JustJAYY334
Жыл бұрын
3:02 I dont blame the missle for getting confused, i play sim and enemy Allied aircraft does cause a LOT of issues 😭😭 missle not taking any chances 😂
@rokasb9441
Жыл бұрын
Missile detects a heat signature - missile eliminates the heat signature, does not elaborate further
@luftwaffles2
Жыл бұрын
J35XS got changed to the Saab 35FS... Alright Gaijin. Focus on that. Be proud. Ignore the problems.
@Hunter_Counts
Жыл бұрын
I think being excited about these changes is the exact wrong move. Gaijin clearly doesn't want to decompress the MM. They essentially gave us an extremely milquetoast version of what we want so that they can say they did it without actually doing anything. They literally raised the ceiling by the absolute smallest amount possible, while not addressing anything like A-10/SU-25, SU-11, or any of the other blatantly overpowered planes. By hyping this up you are validating this strategy. We should have had 12.0 when the phantoms were added. Hell maybe even sooner with the F-100s. Instead we're getting it a month after they just added the F-16 and Mig-29. We should be calling Gaijin's bluff and demanding more.
@bradentucker4854
Жыл бұрын
I love how the can give us decompression without decompression
@pincopallinogek6032
Жыл бұрын
I don't know if i'm saying a no sense, but i feel like the f104 could stay at 10.0/10.3, but they need countermeasures. The flight permormance are ok, missile are shit but you can make them work. Under 10.0 is bullshot, but to be enjoyable over 10, they need something to not die the second an A5 send a magic, or whatever missile is sent.
@splabooshkey3343
Жыл бұрын
Having played the F-104A and C, they were perfectly fine at 9.7 - the only problems they face is the high G and all aspect missiles and that's the fault of the missile carriers, and not a reason for the F-104s to go down
@pincopallinogek6032
Жыл бұрын
@@splabooshkey3343 i agree, but i lost the hope to not see 30g or all aspect missil€$ XD
@splabooshkey3343
Жыл бұрын
@@pincopallinogek6032 fair fair, they're not too difficult to avoid if you're paying maximum attention but on average yeah they just come out of nowhere
@miquelescribanoivars5049
Жыл бұрын
USAF F-104's never got CM
@norske_ow3440
Жыл бұрын
@@splabooshkey3343 the problem isn’t that you can’t avoid them, it’s that if you stay high/far enough away, you can’t do anything. Can’t kill anyone, can’t groundpound, can’t effect the match in any way
@lavamer
Жыл бұрын
top tier jets need + - 0.7 br not + - 1.0
@donutsaviation2543
Жыл бұрын
Was this recorded at night? I hear crickets in the background
@Spitflyer
Жыл бұрын
Yeah Aussie summer lol. I had to have a door open too bc it was 30C in my room
@donutsaviation2543
Жыл бұрын
@@Spitflyer haha same I'm from Australia and its so hot
@Daniel-CMelinte
Жыл бұрын
BR decompression my ass,J-7D sees F16/MiG29 just as much as it did before,I challenge you to play 10 J-7D/F104S games and count the full uptier to downtier ratio.
@Padgeot
Жыл бұрын
The F1c should not go to 11.7, the 530F supers are Pulse and are massively outclassed by CW missiles. They are not reliable enough vs F14,16s or Mig-29s in the way the 530D are. If the F1c got the 530D, sure maybe, but not with Fs.
@scernefhaal
Жыл бұрын
Are you sure that Yak-38 is fine where it is? It has been recently buffed to have 4 (!!!!) R-60s, which devastate no-flare planes. Yes, not the all-aspect ones, but that doesn’t mean that R-60s aren’t op for 9.7 (or 9.3, can’t remember, sorry). Especially with great acceleration of the VTOL, you literally can’t outrun it in any subsonic, and even many supersonics like MiG-19S. Yeah, you can easily outturn the Yak, but if it just runs at high speeds, it can easily dodge the attacks since it got quite nice handling (not manoeuvrability, but handling), it also can bleed and gain speed pretty much on par with MiG-19s or even faster, and strapping R-60s to that… Yeah, that’s sub ideal to say the least. At least as far as I see. What do you think of it? Maybe you missed the 4 R-60s incident or something, but I really don’t think it deserves its place
@RyzawaVT
Жыл бұрын
He-100d going down in br perplexes me, it's easily the fastest vehicle til like 4.0 and the guns really aren't that bad against even 2.0s.
@RH0DI
Жыл бұрын
They could've given the F-4F the AIM-9Ls that it fielded. The platform we have, one capable of using Mavericks, historically flew with AIM-9Ls.
@weedstage4267
Жыл бұрын
brb going to club some seals with he100d
@blackstar2356
Жыл бұрын
Finally can start using some of my other jets
@seatedarmchair6229
Жыл бұрын
The FW-190 A5/U2 going down to 4.0? I think I remember either the U12 or U2 having oddly good flight performance for the br. I assume that's the U12 then.
@TheDougsSB
Жыл бұрын
For strike aircraft like the a10, su25 and the a6e, they should either go up to atleast 10.7, or be stripped from air rb, as in air rb, they are 99% of the time, used as fighters due to their criminally undertiered missiles. When they were all designed for strike missions, not murdering the korean era aircraft. Aircraft like the harriers and the a5c and the yak38, all that needs doing is them going up 1 or 2 battle ratings, the yak38 can carry 4 r60s at 9.3 and that is in desperate need for change.
@Thebaconmurderer
Жыл бұрын
The one that I can agree with is the J35D staying at 10.7. It outclasses just about every 10.3 in that BR range. They keep the F-104's at 10.7 that are slightly faster than it with around the same armament yet horrendous turn times. Most of the F-104's don't even have flares as well, and now its at the exact same tier as the F-1 which the only thing that can compare to it is its AIM-9P's.
@Thebaconmurderer
Жыл бұрын
Oh forgot to add that they change most aircraft with SARH missiles up 0.3 BR yet the F4E stays at 11.0. Which I can understand that it doesn't really stack up well against other top tier jets, but it absolutely slaps people who are at 10.7-10.0 since it still has AIM-7E-2's.
@v0idwalker489
Жыл бұрын
I don't necessarily think it should have gone down, but if the mig21 smt and mf are down at 10.3 so should the draken, its got competitive flight performance with them, worse missiles and no flares. I understand f104's generally get shafted, but also the people kinda have forgotten that the mig21's are down at 10.3 and arguably cause more damage than the draken being at 10.3. The way I see it is that the draken and the 21's should be at 10.7.
@williammontgrain6544
Жыл бұрын
F8E Crusader needs no relief. I knock out top-tier jets with it regularly. It can dogfight anything near or above it's tier and can dodge any missile, and it's cannons are potent enough to side shoot tanks.
@kamoinar1905
Жыл бұрын
well, no more mixed battles against F-14s atleast. Can't complain
@williammontgrain6544
Жыл бұрын
@@kamoinar1905 only if you fly realistic. the crusader is still in my top tier lineup for arcade. always feels good to shoot down a jet that was made 20+ years after yours was.
@RyzawaVT
Жыл бұрын
For a 4090 I wouldn't go lower than a 750w psu. Recently with my rx6600 I upgraded to a 650w from a 500w.
@sndrc9
Жыл бұрын
Su-17M2 FINALLY at 10.7 still no flares/chaff, still only 4 R-60, still sucks.
@gustavocaldeira452
Жыл бұрын
Finally j35D on 10.3 🙌
@Marc-zi4vg
Жыл бұрын
hey since they make the f2h2 7.3 can you make a video about it being the NEW sea jesus
@Relicoid
Жыл бұрын
It would be awesome if you covered more props :)
@Spitflyer
Жыл бұрын
Got some props coming!
@tastytruffles5923
Жыл бұрын
The mirage 3c needs to move down to 10.0 it has no flares and is an alright dogfighter, the missiles can be compared with those of the f4c which is at 10.0. the plane is a terrible pain to grind with.
@Northern00
Жыл бұрын
The issue is having magics at 10.0 is an issue, as seen with the A5C which needs to move up. I don’t wanna see 30G missiles below 10.3, which I already disagree with on the A5C, SU25, A10, A6E, etc.
@miquelescribanoivars5049
Жыл бұрын
IMO IIIC shouldn't have gotten Magic's and a 9.3-9.7 br.
@Northern00
Жыл бұрын
@@miquelescribanoivars5049 I think it’s fine with magics, especially since for the longest time the IIIC was the only viable fighter in the French TT since they’d been so neglected. And it did perfectly fine until all aspects were added, cuz I can outplay someone with R60s by just not giving him my burner, but R60M and 9Ls don’t care so there’s no counter play
@miquelescribanoivars5049
Жыл бұрын
@@Northern00 I'm well aware of the background behind the addition of the Mirage III in WT (who could forget Dozer's seething?). But the point still stands, we should had gotten the IIIE w/ flares instead of the IIIC back then. The IIIC is a 1960 plane (think Lighting, early MiG-21's and F-104's) and giving it Magic's forced it into fighting much more modern planes with access to CM's and heavier missile loads. Removing the Magic's would help to fill the gap between 9.3 to 10.3 while also putting the plane in a much more leveled playing field.
@Northern00
Жыл бұрын
@@miquelescribanoivars5049 I see what you’re saying now, I agree to a point. But honestly look at the Milan, it’s in the exact position you just described, but is better overall in terms of engine power and bombs, and it still gets FUCKED in the mm. So I don’t think your suggestion would fix anything, and may kill the IIIC even more.
@tedharvey9836
Жыл бұрын
Still need a much higher br to decompress
@salvatoreg26
Жыл бұрын
11.0 is still basically flying 12.0 right now so yeah in 20 games 20 were 12.0
@calle7789
Жыл бұрын
The J35D should be att 10.3. Its a straight downgrade from the Saab 35FS having two less missiles, so CMs and no IRST just to name the biggest differences. And keep in mind that the Mig-21Smt and MF sits at 10.3 with 30g r60s, CMs and decent flight performance.
@denislazar8703
Жыл бұрын
Hi mate! Love watching your videos. I just got into WT back after 3 years. I am currently at the mig19pt. I can’t believe how hard it is to go to the next tier to mig21s. I find it so hard to fight aim 9s with my 19pt…not fun at all. I also wanted to buy a premium to help with my grind but there isn’t any soviet 9.3 or 9.7 with decent missiles. Any tips?
@SPFLDAngler
Жыл бұрын
SU11
@EvilCuRrY007
Жыл бұрын
The SU-25K has 2 R60Ms. It is a very OP plane
@lukegrant9526
Жыл бұрын
You better get Yak-38M or Su-25 tech tree. It is the best 9.7 with 30g missiles
@king-amir3401
Жыл бұрын
EJ-kai has the AIM-7F
@yyxx4174
Жыл бұрын
Where is the "Pincard on the Top" with the F14 video? Cant find it..
@Spitflyer
Жыл бұрын
1 sec
@wuzz111
Жыл бұрын
19:20 do you mean coil whine? if so thats normal for high power systems like the 4090. Really the only way to minimise it is to put a FPS cap and undervolt the GPU.
@Spitflyer
Жыл бұрын
It’s definitely not cool whine. The buzzing increases if I stress test the CPU while gaming so yeah definitely PSU
@abdulrahmandarwish2962
Жыл бұрын
I feel like 11.0 BR is too high for the F-104S TAF, you get AIM-9Ps but everyone else at 11.0 would have all-aspect 30g missiles. Maybe 10.7 was better for it. Idk. Can someone tell me why the BR was moved up? Was it doing too well at 10.7?
@King63Kobra
Жыл бұрын
It got flares. The F-104S, when played right, has great flight performance. The flares gave it an extra edge. Originally, it was a struggle to run from all aspect 30g missiles because you didn't have the maneuverability to shake them and couldn't outrun them. It made the sacrifice for speed>maneuverability useless. With flares, you can shake those missiles easily, making the boom and zoom much harder to counter
@doomer_bloomer88
Жыл бұрын
I just wanna be able to use the buccaneer without fight phantoms and mig21s
@suzybean13
Жыл бұрын
As a 11.3 mig23 player, I still only see f16s in RB
@superbuster11
Жыл бұрын
Moving Su-11 from 7.0 to 7.3 is Gaijin's fu..ing joke 🤬
@wowdanalise
Жыл бұрын
Bravo, this changes almost nothing. This is such a tiny br decompression I won't even notice.
@arturazimov8576
Жыл бұрын
I think F14A (Early) should stay where it is, as it is and leave the AIM-9L for F14A (Late).
@NGC2419-
Жыл бұрын
Gaijin needs to fix its naming because it’s misleading, there is no F-14 early or late, F-14A is one aircraft, the block system was not used with the F-14. Regardless of it gets 9Ls it needs to be moved up to the top
@DeadSkyWT
Жыл бұрын
@@NGC2419- Let me explain it to you. The F14A Early has the wing inlets. It also does not have AIM9Ls, and that small pod thing on the nose. The F14A Late should get 9Ls, no wing inlets, and that small pod thing.
@willsills6353
Жыл бұрын
EJ-Kai gets Aim-7F
@alanm1121
Жыл бұрын
Was going to comment this lol.
@doge151alt_account
Жыл бұрын
kinda late to report these changes imo
@TheDoctorMD
Жыл бұрын
EJ Kai received AIM-7Fs last year so I think I can justify it going to 11.7.
@Spitflyer
Жыл бұрын
Yeah you’re right. L for me lol
@adrfarling5503
Жыл бұрын
I agree with most things, but not on your opinion to the J35D going down and that the JA37C should go up. You said, that the Draken shouldn't fight 9.3s, which I totally agree with, however at this BR you realy rarely get downtiers. It faces all-aspect dogfighting missiles all the times, atleast it doesn't have to fight good radar missiles now. You also said, that the Viggen should go up, however it currently has really bad armament compared to its enemys. Aim 9Js are truly underwhelming, Aim 7E2s are bad and don't like to track anymore (they miss easy head-ons in 50% of all times), its radar likes to lock onto chaff in PD mode since the last update and it has less countermeasures compared to its enemys. Also you where talking about the F-4EJ Kai and said that it has good Aim 7E2 Dogfight missiles, however the RJ Kai only has 7Es and 7Fs, so I assume you were talking about the 7Fs?
@Michael_Wurster
Жыл бұрын
Wait but didnt the list update with the su-11 appearing?
@kadddddshad1424
Жыл бұрын
There's literally nothing than should be above 8.7 to 9.0 that doesn't have flares
@sharkk127
Жыл бұрын
Hey spitflyer, do you have any methods to calm your heart rate, after I broke my mouse trying to spade the f4e a few months ago I literally can't touch air rb without my heart spiking to all hell as soon as I spawn
@dafunk100k
Жыл бұрын
Side climb don’t be aggressive
@sharkk127
Жыл бұрын
@@dafunk100k thats what I do, I do usually manage to get a few kills but my heart is still insane
@madsb7673
Жыл бұрын
You care to much. Its just a game
@evo3s75
Жыл бұрын
imagine what would make you do if you'd play the F-4F.. used to be 11.0, constant uptiers and *no* sparrows nor 9L's Agile Eagle does literally nothing to help it, it's still an F-4 and loses a fuckton of speed and energy in a turn
@madsb7673
Жыл бұрын
@@evo3s75 don’t fucking play it then. Play a plane you don’t need as much skill in then
@goodreishun5173
Жыл бұрын
"A5-C is a ground attacker", yeah, sure mate, a modification of Mig19 is definitely a purpose built ground attacker. Just like 104S TAF, wonder why that thing didn't get a 11.3.
@Spitflyer
Жыл бұрын
I quote from Wikipedia here: “The Nanchang Q-5 (Chinese: 强-5; pinyin: Qiang-5; NATO reporting name: Fantan), also known as the A-5 in its export versions, is a 1960s-design Chinese-built single-seat, twin jet engine ground-attack aircraft based on the Shenyang J-6. The aircraft is primarily used for close air support.”
@goodreishun5173
Жыл бұрын
@@Spitflyer Yes, and J-6 is a rebranded Mig19P. It's not correct to put it into the same context as A10 and Su25. Magic 1s (you have only 2 of them) are pretty flareable rn (if you flare them from over 700 meters) they are not full aspect, and their seeker isn't sensitive enough for 90 degree side aspect shot either (except, maybe phantoms). It inherited the great flight performance of Mig19, but due to added armor it loses energy below 0.8 mach faster, yet keeping turning circle small. Another problem it has - it's not that fast, 1260 kph IAS is the limit and you reach 1200 at the deck. Guns are from prop era, only 18 CMs (but actually you have to run chaff because you fight US 24/7 and at the altitude you often meet lads like F8, F4C's and MigS with R3s, so in practice you only have 9 pops). At this BR it's a very good plane, and even if you put it on 10.3 nothing would change cause in those almost 500 games I did during my recent Chinese tree grind, I got 9.0's less than ten times. Problem with 10.3 placement is.... something like F5-C, F8-U and F8-E (FR) those planes are just better aircrafts with more missiles, also, should I mention SMT and MF? Probably not. We need 13.0 BR ranges for Air RB. Early Starfighters at 9.3 is a joke too (what Mig15 should do against F104 lol), but they get sompletely obliterated by R60's at 9.7 and so on. "Conservative" and "patient" gameplay can get you more kills, but you won't influence the outcome of the most the games, just because how these BRs are played rn (you can't be aggressive). All-aspect missiles at this low BR completely changed the matches + most of them belong to aircrafts theat can be obtained via donation, also try to flare 9L in A5-C in rear aspect, also caged 9D's are kinda scary rn. All of that combined it why I think 10.0 is a perfect BR for that aircraft 9.3 flight performance with 10.7 missiles and weird guns.
@CloudyClobain
Жыл бұрын
They should fix 8.7-9.7 too much bs with the missile buses
@zahnatom
Жыл бұрын
the F-4F is exactly where it belongs. AIM-9Js are honestly quite terrible for today's standards(against R-60s, 9Gs, etc), it doesnt get sparrows and lacks some of the ground ordnance of the F-4E for example(only 2 Mavericks). the J 35D going to 10.3 is perfect. it gets no flares, no rwr, you only get 4 9Js, no SARHs, terrible energy retention. Mirage 3s are at 10.3, MiG-21s are at 10.3 and the 35D is worse than most of those. it should not be 10.7, the past 1.5 years have proven that its not deserving of 10.7 JA 37C does not belong at 11.3 either. it also only gets 9Js, only 2 skyflashes and a radar that's been nerfed beyond recognition. flight performance mostly stayed meaning that its just as mediocre as before
@mr-izuku-6369
Жыл бұрын
Am i the only person to see that missle kill at 3:04 haha
@VERTIGO1327
Жыл бұрын
F-5C won’t see any F-14s anymore🤷♂️
@SLMFKRZ
Жыл бұрын
No way they start the decomp now
@SLMFKRZ
Жыл бұрын
I think they still need 12.7 for new generation jets
@evo3s75
Жыл бұрын
they always do this a month or so after, but they only do it slightly. We needed 12.7 for a while already and the F-14 has been OP and needing to be 12.7 ever since it's introduction which was wayyyyyy too early
@SLMFKRZ
Жыл бұрын
@@evo3s75 I don't even play anymore after 2016, I miss the 2012 simplicity. It's just ridiculous now. Gaijin have made so many bad decisions and preying upon the addictive nature of the game to keep people churning profits
@ziggy8190
Жыл бұрын
Does this mean the Harrier GR.7 is more efficient at researching the Tornado than say the FGR.2?
@NGC2419-
Жыл бұрын
No difference, it still has the same research multiplier
@ziggy8190
Жыл бұрын
@@NGC2419- Damn, I hoped but thanks for clearing it up I’d completely forgotten about multipliers
@Max-prime1212
Жыл бұрын
I have a question. I was researching the f14 before it got moved to tier 8. I don't have tier 8 unlocked. Will I be able to purchase the f14 once I research it?
@NGC2419-
Жыл бұрын
Yes, you will be able to research and purchase it still, you just won’t be able to research anything else at rank 8
@Max-prime1212
Жыл бұрын
@@NGC2419- let's goooo
@lovethegame0204
Жыл бұрын
Thought the Su11 was going to 7.7?
@RyzawaVT
Жыл бұрын
Said 7.3 but og decided against it.
@jurassicjack2937
Жыл бұрын
Rip hunter at 10.0
@Memin00
Жыл бұрын
You won after so many years hahaha
@TartB
Жыл бұрын
su-11 at 12.0 please
@deanc.5984
Жыл бұрын
I'm 9.0 BR fighting 11.0!! It ain't easy!!😬
@___-cp6or
Жыл бұрын
Is the venom still 8.7?
@MANNYzZ
Жыл бұрын
Ye gaijin is stupid it should be 7.7
@AndrewH9999
Жыл бұрын
Can confirm the f100 is borderline unplayable
@LewisB3217
Жыл бұрын
Xm803, pls save it from thermal hell and turms :(
@HalIOfFamer
Жыл бұрын
this literaly fixed nothing for the planes that suffer the most, and those are everything from 8.0 to 9.3 this br bracket is unplayable when uptiered, and a flat out massacre when downtiered. balanced matches almosr never happen because everyone who has grinded for months jumps into their new mig15, and gets absolutely shat on by all aspect missiles. this is the old times top tier(pre tanks and shit when the game was actualy good) and many players including me dont want to play against missiles in their korean era jets. real decompression would be adding a .5 br bracket for every era (1.0>1.3>1.5>1.7>2.0) or better yet make it .2(1.0>1.2>1.4>1.6>1.8>2.0) and make it so we can get up or downtiered up to .6.
@anthonyzx6180
Жыл бұрын
No one gon talk about the tk 😂 missile was on drugs
@aleksa1098
Жыл бұрын
3:50 EJ Kai has aim 7Fs,you recording late again ccc :)
@tristenakintomide9091
Жыл бұрын
3:08 what kind of bullshit was that?
@jamaga7331
Жыл бұрын
poor f14 that got tk ed
@javierruvalcaba3452
Жыл бұрын
Literally the best plane in the game
@cookiecracker2
Жыл бұрын
I don't understand why they can't add 12.7 and step everything up so that the current 8.7s and 9.0s don't have to fight the most popular and cancerous 9.7s and 10.0 premiums.
@jussi8111
Жыл бұрын
yeah, decompress that will have fuckall effect
@clarson_0249
Жыл бұрын
I have the su-25k but IMO it’s not really that good but I shouldn’t be facing low br planes that don’t have flares. But if they set the br higher for it it won’t fit for a lot of ground tanks
@exoticpal1027
Жыл бұрын
Souce
@specialman6004
Жыл бұрын
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@lonegamer59
Жыл бұрын
when i heard that 12.0 was going to be a thing i said the f14 should be 12.0 as well and my god did the american mains bitch and moan about it. I have the F14 I dont really like it all that much but i still think it should be 12.0 even people who are my friends bitched at me and called me stupid for saying it should be 12.0 💀
@norske_ow3440
Жыл бұрын
Ej Kai has aim7f and aim7e. Not aim7e-2
@sailorssilence1983
Жыл бұрын
banger
@sim6446
Жыл бұрын
i think they dont wanna put the F14 to max tier because they will add the next F14 that will be slightly better and they need to bait the wallet warriors into spending money
@ambasing638
Жыл бұрын
So gripen when?
@AlmightyDude420
Жыл бұрын
2033
@juulisnotcuul1930
Жыл бұрын
balls👍
@rasec017g2
Жыл бұрын
Dude I wish you did more prop videos. There´s a huge ammount of audience for that since at the moment most of the players are not really focusing on Jets. Most likely because we´re getting a low of new players.
@GabbieGirl007
Жыл бұрын
when is america going to get its damn F-104G and F-104S . like damn it i want my damn tip tanks and better performance .
@icantsleepman
Жыл бұрын
They were both export versions so they're not coming to the US tech tree
@GabbieGirl007
Жыл бұрын
@@icantsleepman are you sure about that . because the US had them in their inventory
@GabbieGirl007
Жыл бұрын
@@icantsleepman even if american used it to train german pilots idgaf it should be in our tree even if it was a trainer it was still armed and everything
@evo3s75
Жыл бұрын
Not, US never owned the F-104G. They were still German owned and in German service, only in US to train the Luftwaffe pilots. Or else you could also give Germany the F-4E because they also trained on those in the US but never actually owned them (except for the RF-4E)
@GabbieGirl007
Жыл бұрын
@@evo3s75 im just saying some viritety . like warthunder isnt 100% historically accuret with all its wounder weapons . could we just let this slide . its stupid to want to be realistic in a game where realism is often thrown out the window .
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