does Dragonslayer have multiole attacks for fighter besides cleave ability, thank you, A very good video
@DnD_Dad_n_Son
7 ай бұрын
It doesn't appear so.
@bentmetal666
7 ай бұрын
@@DnD_Dad_n_Son thank you
@n.ludemann9199
6 ай бұрын
I have been wondering about the Wilderness Wandering Monsters Tables by level. Those make no sense if they are not sorted by climate and terrain - and this is a major design flaw. Imagine, you are on your way in a boreal forest and you meet ... 5 Brigands in the morning and ... a gang of baboons (most likely not the runequest-1e-type...). After being healed and leveling up, the party leaves the Keep the other week and they meet... a Giant Crab on their way through the foothills of a mountain range, a crocodile while they are on the pass over the mountains and are surprised by several Chimps during their night watch. Those tables are not really usable - as an experienced DM I know what to do with those, picking some of those creatures for my 8-entry random table and assigning possibilities for those encounters. (Like they are shown for the hexcrawl example... pretty standard) But those are made for rolling on them, by level. So - applying traditional D&D-logic - I'd roll for random encounters several times a day and during the watches. If one happens, for 1st lvl characters, the encounter would be Level 1 on 1-3, Level 2 on 4-5 and Level 3 on a 6. But without Terrain, those tables don't make any sense. They are sorted alphabetically, and rolled by 1d20, not 2d10 or 1d8+d12. So all those monsters have the same possibility to appear, the graph is linear, not a Gauss curve. Maybe I have overlooked it, but a newbie DM may not be able to make any reasonable use of those tables. He might even come up with the conception to use them like the Dungeon Wandering Monsters Tables as I discribed above. TBH, my group would be very puzzled encountering creatures rolled up randomly by them and question my sanity as a DM... Ah, and those carousing rules ... well, my group of 14 to 17 year old boys came up with similar rules back in the 90s. I think they infantile and murder-hobo-ish. Not funny at all for me. This is where my inner presby kicks in and my own conservatism and tradional values come into play. Debauchery and dissipation are not my cup of tea... I am not evangelical, but... I did a flip through myself now, and besides the 2/3 - 3/4 of really great art, the game is not that special, it is good, I like the take on the Monk, most of the FAQ, Sage Advice etc in the Appendix is good. 4 stars for it are fair. But it is massively overpriced compared to its competitors. And those are other B&W POD games, not stitch sewn offset hardcovers like OSE or Hyperborea. Dragonslayer competes with Advanced Lablord, Osric, ACKS or Swords and Wizardry. Maybe even 1e or the RC. Example: For the 80$ (without shipping) you can get ACKS (which is printed in the Standard Color Process) and two of its more expensive accessories. Or Advanced Lablord, plus a whole campaign setting and city books. Osric (layflat or PB) gives you the whole Bone Hilt Sword campaign and some Starter adventures, or two Advanced Adventures tomes (Nr. 2 and 3 are fair for the start) etc. Dragonslayer is just to expensive by comparison. To me, the best deals are Basic Fantasy (for 80$ you get almost the whole library...), Iron Falcon, Osric or Intruders! (which is a White Box clone with a massive random tables section). When the new Monstrosities is out, S&W will become a great deal too. S&W complete and Splinters of Faith for example. Great. (the new White Box cannot compete with FMAG for 5$ though...)
@DnD_Dad_n_Son
6 ай бұрын
Thanks so much for your comment. You have a really great point about the Wandering Monsters tables: If it's not broken up by terrain, it is quite unwieldy to work with. That will certainly be a point of frustration, and not just for new DMs. As for price, I think it is directly comparable to Old School Essentials Advanced Fantasy, which is two tomes that seek to do a lot of what Dragonslayers seeks to do: use B/X as the foundation and incorporate desired elements of AD&D. That product is two tomes for $40 (i.e. 2 x $40 = $80), making it the same price as Dragonslayer. However, with Dragonslayer, the look of the books is more classic and the art is better and more consistent, and even features original TSR artists (Jeff Easley, Darlene, Diesel, Eric Hotz, and Yann Lieby). It also has a dungeon creation section from a seasoned megadungeon creator. Considered next to OSE, I think that Dragonslayer holds its value. I guess we could consider them both to be more on the premium product side of the market, both being on the expensive end of the spectrum. (People who go for OSE or Dragonslayer are looking for different things than those who go with Basic Fantasy. And there is a massive difference in price, although both sell because both meet unique market needs/desires.) As for carousing, I largely agree with your sentiment there. I play with my kids, too, so I would want to keep debauchery to a minimum, although there might be some place for it if it is tasteful. And I'm sure it would elicit some laughs from them if done well. But mostly, I'm not too interested in the idea of blowing all your gold on silliness. I much rather like the idea of building towards a stronghold like classic B/X and BECMI. I think I would still instill that in my players regardless of the fact that it's not explicitly part of the Dragonslayer ruleset. In fact, I have in my play worlds established a pretty clearly-defined banking system where players can deposit treasure safely and manage their wealth. Thanks again for your comment, and thanks for watching!
@n.ludemann9199
6 ай бұрын
@@DnD_Dad_n_Son If Dragonslayer was printed in the Premium Digital process by dtrpg, it would be a direct competitor to OSE, pricewise. But it is the least print- and paper quality, like OSRIC (HC 19EUR, PB 12EUR, Layflat 16EUR) or Advanced Lablord (HC 2x23EUR, PB 2x18EUR). ACKS costs 32EUR as HC and has color printing, which is much better. The casecover binding cannot compare to a sewn binding, it is just a Perfect Bound book glued into the hardcover. The paper connecting case and book will wear out very soon from regular use, maybe even faster than the much criticized 1e hardcovers from back in the days. So the Perfect Bound books are actually of a better quality and cheaper than the Casecovers. They don't rip out of the case. Regarding the BW inkjet process (which is very blurry compared to the digital process or offset prints) and the inferior binding, this book cannot compete with the OSE Advanced Books (where you pay for for TWO sewn-binding hardcovers, not a single book, which is much more expensive of course! Quality has its price). One remark why I am so concerned about the price: I paid 35EUR each Advanced OSE and no shipping, because the books are available at some online stores in Germany (or Europe) where I live. If I order Books from Drivethrurpg, I have to add 16EUR/20$ for shipping and the Import Taxes because it is shipped from the UK. This is included regarding Lablord, Osric etc which I can order at Lulu because they print and ship from France. UPS charged an extra 18EUR for handling my last order, so if I add it all together, its 73EUR +16EUR +6EUR +18EUR ------------------- 113EUR = $120 for me. So the price is going up WAY over 100EUR - for one POD of suboptimal printing and minor binding quality! There is no other way than drivethru to purchase it yet, and I doubt it will ever be added to Amazons POD service, which is available in Germany. That's where I got my BFRP, Osric, S&W, Iron Falcon etc. books from. Therefor I only buy bigger numbers of books from drivethru - if I do so! I just have to pay the handling once. 10EUR shipping from Lulu without handling fees or no shipping at all from Amazon POD makes a difference. And Amazon does only take 2 working days to deliver the books...
@n.ludemann9199
6 ай бұрын
@@DnD_Dad_n_Son Ah, on premium products... If I want to sell a premium product for a premium price, the quality of the physical product has to match the price and content. After watching several videos featuring GEG, I think he unjustifiably overestimates himself and his products. This may be great marketing-wise (and he wants to sell his books...), but I don't fall for that. He puts his pants on one leg at a time like anybody else and he is just one among other creators of retro rpgs - and not even my favorite.
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