The Kohnstamm Phenomenon is a popular trick to do with friends. It’s also known as the “Floating Arm Trick”. See how I use this phenomenon in my delivery of a horseshoe.
Thanks man. I've really been getting into throwing shoes. There are a few players that are quite good. And I'm slowly reaching their level of play. Thank you for this video. You should do a video on footwork and follow through, if you haven't already. Again thank you
@Qukslvr
2 ай бұрын
I’ll get that done this summer. Thanks for watching
@dylanschannel3590
3 жыл бұрын
Iv been practicing using your tips and tricks and now I can finally throw a one flip consistently. Thanks for the help!
@Qukslvr
3 жыл бұрын
That’s awesome to hear. I’m glad it helped you.
@KING-BUZZ
3 жыл бұрын
Is one flip the most common? Best practice? Haven’t thrown in many many many years. Joining a friendly league with my sister in June. Looking for advice
@anthonyeusebius5834
Жыл бұрын
Amazing! That is the exact same way I teach Tai chi. Which is entirely about no effort no tension whatsoever in the movement. And doing the form the mind directs the relaxed movement and done correctly feels exactly like the door exercise. This might add even more to your method. When totally relaxed there is zero resistance from opposing muscles increasing speed and power. Try doing the arm motion by leading with the mental intention and you will feel the same thing as the door exercise. But using the mind (picture the arm moving and relax the body will follow The more you relax and use the mind to lead the movement the more you feel the power generated by the mind for any movement). it connects neurons at a deeper level. Bottom line I know what you are saying is legit!
@Qukslvr
Жыл бұрын
Can you contact me via Facebook messenger and please explain more in-depth step by step.
@waste608
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Dave super informative!
@Qukslvr
3 жыл бұрын
You’re welcome. It’s not for everyone but hopefully entertaining to hear about other things people are doing out there. Now when someone sees me pitch they can better understand what I’m doing.
@mr.redneck2715
2 жыл бұрын
I throw thousands and thousands of shoes with no improvement, and I watch your videos and try to apply everything!
@Qukslvr
2 жыл бұрын
Have you seen any improvements? Keep trying different techniques. A winning formula might be one thing you learned from me, one thing you learned from a friend and one thing you figured out on your own. Be like a sponge and soak up as much knowledge as you can and discard the ideas that aren’t right for your game.
@mr.redneck2715
2 жыл бұрын
@@Qukslvr I keep plugging away, but I think I plateaued A couple years back.
@ojblackcat5286
11 ай бұрын
I'm the same as you and I've realized it all comes down to whether or not you are capable of consistently throwing the horseshoe in a straight line. Apparently I'm not and no advice on grip, spin technique, rotation, etc. is helpful at all if you can't consistently throw the shoe in a straight line to the target. Games like horseshoes, darts, bowling, and many others like them, simply boil down to the fact that you need a certain minimum level of hand-eye coordination. If you have that, you can learn techniques to make you really good at these types of games. If you don't have that, like me, then it's time to get over it and find a new hobby.
@Chocolate_313
Жыл бұрын
I can't wait to try this
@Qukslvr
Жыл бұрын
This is really helpful and I’ve of my main things I do to stay consistent throughout a match.
@molotulo8808
Жыл бұрын
I have been lifting weights for over 40 years, i hope that will help me be have as good as Dave!
@Qukslvr
Жыл бұрын
The benefit of the KOHNSTAMM phenomenon diminishes rapidly. That’s why you need to do EVERY throw. In the game of horseshoes you want to take “muscles” out of your game to be consistent. Throw with your pendulum swing and your timed step to be the most consistent you can be. If you throw with muscle then you’ll find it much harder to stay consistent throughout a tournament. You start a tournament fresh and string and finish tired and weaker.
@flippperboy
3 жыл бұрын
Good tips on the swing and how not to deviate from your line to the stake
@Qukslvr
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks. It does help. I do it to make me focus more while practicing and also to condition my muscles faster after a long winter break.
@bryantniedospial1601
2 жыл бұрын
I tried your suggestion of placing my palm on the wall in front of me and pushing hard. Now I have a hole in the drywall. Please post a video on drywall repair. Otherwise, this was a good video,
@Qukslvr
2 жыл бұрын
This video wasn’t meant for “strong” men. If you damaged a wall that means you’re an Alpha male and you should know better than to push on drywall. I will post a drywall repair video soon so you can get that fixed.
@earlthompson2191
3 жыл бұрын
Hmmm, is this some of the stuff you were doing yesterday? Very interesting. Definitely going to have to try that. Good work.
@Qukslvr
3 жыл бұрын
Yes. That was filmed yesterday.
@Qukslvr
3 жыл бұрын
You’ll have to let go of the shoe with your left hand. Are you willing to do that? Ha ha.
@earlthompson2191
3 жыл бұрын
@@Qukslvr Absolutely, but it's a good thing it's on video. Seeing that it was put up so late in the year . Have to go back and look at it in the spring. And who knows, maybe sooner.
@Qukslvr
3 жыл бұрын
Yes definitely sooner. I’ll let you know.
@daveholte7658
2 ай бұрын
Learning alot on this video. Been using the palm up locked elbow hyper extending the arm and follow thru It works hit the stake score points, But notice after awhile maybe arm get tired? And then I notice I am pulling back and shoe does not get to the stake So I must be bending my arm and not keeping it locked? Thoughts? Is there a brace one can wear to train the arm to try and keep the arm extended? Thanks for the great videos. Has been 30 yrs since I last played
@Qukslvr
2 ай бұрын
How’s your timing? I mean….. are you timing your step properly? Using this technique along with proper timing should give you enough force to easily pitch the shoe to the stake.
@daveholte7658
2 ай бұрын
@@Qukslvr I need to concentrate on that part as well. I can feel when I have pulled or restricted the shoe and does not get there. It is amazing when a throw or 2 come together and 2 ringers happen. Ok csn feel that. The next set it falls apart. It seems like it all works great when first starting. Then afterwards it starts to gradually fall apart I get frustrated. Lots of practicing to do. Neef rhythm and as you mentioned timing. I throw a flop shoe. Continentals
@goosek.i.a.1301
2 жыл бұрын
When throwing a horseshoe does it matter if your fingers stay straight on your release the reason why im asking is cause i feel like my middle finger catches when i release and im wondering if this same practice with the arms would work on my fingers
@Qukslvr
2 жыл бұрын
Your fingers catching on the shoe means your grip is to deep into the shoe. I grip with no more than my fingertips up to the first knuckles. Any deeper and it takes longer to release your grip from the shoe. You can master a deeper grip but it’s easier to use an easy grip rather than a harder grip.
@--JohnDoe
2 жыл бұрын
Do you have a video to help me get the one flip, straight? I keep flipping twice, or flipping sideways. Thank you.
@Qukslvr
2 жыл бұрын
This is the video you’re looking for. Locking your elbow will keep the shoe from flopping and also restrict your flipping power. There’s a lot of bad things that can happen if your elbow is not controlled. I see a lot of people start with a bent elbow and actually finish with a bent elbow. Finishing with a bent elbow can add an extra flip in your shoe very easily. Plus it can mess with your distance.
@ojblackcat5286
11 ай бұрын
Tried the doorway trick. 30 seconds pushing so hard I started to shake. Put my arms by my sides and nothing happened. What I do wrong?
@Qukslvr
11 ай бұрын
Try not pushing so extremely hard. Consistent pressure and then just walk forward letting arms hang loose.
@jesseclary6587
3 жыл бұрын
Love your tutorials. I just can't go from the flip to the 1 1/4turn. I have been trying off and on for a month a little bere and a little there. I am pretty accurate with the flip but the turn gets away from me.
@Qukslvr
3 жыл бұрын
Don’t give up on it. It will eventually start happening for you. I took about 4 years before I could turn my shoe with any consistency. It’s still a work in progress for me but so much fun being able to do what I do.
@brandonbrunet2711
2 жыл бұрын
I use thoroughbred mustangs and when I moved my flip grip to where the thumb cleat just touched the knuckle of my index finger, and middle finger in the centerline of the leg, my flip became a 1 1 /4 turn.
@brandonbrunet2711
2 жыл бұрын
Might just be a weird left handed person thing though lol
@murphmcbride2130
Жыл бұрын
What are those backboards made of ?
@Qukslvr
Жыл бұрын
Rubber mats that are cut down.
@murphmcbride2130
Жыл бұрын
@@Qukslvr Thanks! Do you know of a video or plans showing that design ?
@Qukslvr
Жыл бұрын
No. I’ve never seen one.
@swkynard
Жыл бұрын
why are throwing from the wrong side? Its been proven that it is 2" further. So what is the advantage?
@Qukslvr
Жыл бұрын
Let’s just say I’m giving everyone a 2” handicap. 😜
@RUSTYSPARKS36
Жыл бұрын
For me I tend to, even for a second, lose concentration thinking about hitting the stake with my shoe. Thats why I throw from the right side of the pit
@blu_of_greentank
Жыл бұрын
I have some neighbors who are not quite enthusiastic about the clanging of horseshoes has anyone ever seen a weighted rubber or rubber coated metal horseshoe I really don’t want to resort to a lighter weight shoe but want to reduce noise
@Qukslvr
Жыл бұрын
SafehorseshoesDOTcom sells rubber horseshoes separately from their pits. They are a bit lighter but I don’t recall any rubber shoes that are a full 2 pounds 8 ounces. The only other thing would be to buy deadsoft shoes. They aren’t as loud but still loud.
@blu_of_greentank
Жыл бұрын
@@Qukslvr thanks for the tips! I wondered if maybe we could plasti dip or rubber coat some. I was surprised to see no one makes an iron core rubber shoe or something. As long as it’s more then the 9 ounce kids ones you see I’d be happy. Might have to try to make a couple with a lighter weight shoe and a diy coating! 😬
@Qukslvr
Жыл бұрын
I tried taping some Double Ringers like crazy and they worked for an entire season before getting ruined from stake strikes. Somewhere I have a picture of one of the shoes all taped up. They actually threw pretty good. A little learning curve but they worked. I was throwing indoors on a really nice finished concrete floor.
@adamcombs2739
Жыл бұрын
Love how he calls extending his arm as always hypertextending his arm. Dummy. Lol
@Qukslvr
Жыл бұрын
I’m simply emphasizing a full extension that flattens your palm to the sky. I understand that an hypertension means the joint is injured. And by the way……… I AM a dummy.
@adamcombs2739
Жыл бұрын
@@Qukslvr me too buddy. Another thing u are is a BMF horseshoe pitcher. Learned alot from u but I tried the hyperextending my arm tip and the doctor told me I could pitch again in possibly 16 to 20 weeks if physical therapy and healing go well
@adamcombs2739
Жыл бұрын
@@Qukslvr🤳
@Qukslvr
Жыл бұрын
Ha ha. Sorry about that. I hope your elbow heals fast and you’re back out there killing it again soon. I’ll start putting a disclaimer on my videos to let people know I’m a moron and to not take any of my advice seriously and to try my stupid tips at their own risk. This is not the only time I use the term “hyperextending” in my videos. I use it all the time in my narrated horseshoe matches on my other channel. Maybe I’ll go back and “bleep” out that word. Ha ha. This video is getting me in a lot of trouble. I had to travel to Florida to repair some dudes drywall and repaint the entire room the other week.
@pre-tribrapturetrueorfalse4124
3 жыл бұрын
Hi dave, I got into a league in Erie, PA. Playing doubles. My partner and I are averaging 36 right now but we had a 59-pointer our last game. I have my new pits mapped out in how I am going to build them. I like clay but do you recommend something else? Bob
@Qukslvr
3 жыл бұрын
No. I recommend clay over any other material. It might be a little more with you care for it but in the long run clay will be your absolute best material. You can learn a lot about how your shoe is coming in and landing. Other materials can make you firm bad habits.
@pre-tribrapturetrueorfalse4124
3 жыл бұрын
@@Qukslvr Thanks David. Hey I was told where we are playing- the 24 pits is where they had the first world championship.
@Qukslvr
3 жыл бұрын
I read somewhere it was in 1910 in Kansas.
@pre-tribrapturetrueorfalse4124
3 жыл бұрын
@@Qukslvr I guess everyone likes to lay claim to their hometown area. LOL. Went up against a lady tonight that threw 70% ringers. WE have a bunch of people in the 60 to 70+ % ringers in this Erie league. Glad it is ALL HANDICAP. I need to work on my follow-through more. Any advice, hit me bro.
@rickydiggler7950
2 жыл бұрын
I wonder if Alan Francis uses this technique. 🤣
@Qukslvr
2 жыл бұрын
If he did he might be throwing 98% average??????? You never know. He starts with a bent elbow and when he straightens his arm I’m sure that shoe moves a bit. Starting with the elbow already locked would eliminate movement in his backswing. You’re welcome Alan. Ha ha. He don’t watch KZitem so I’m safe to mess around about it.
@dragonflyhorseshoes9393
3 жыл бұрын
Drugs R Bad, MmKay! Lol!!
@Qukslvr
3 жыл бұрын
I heard Fred uses this Phenomenon
@mr.redneck2715
3 жыл бұрын
Your throwing ringers but your follow-through is going to the right. Just saying!!
@Qukslvr
2 жыл бұрын
I don’t practice much lately and bad habits are creeping back into my game. I plan on doing more work on my throw in 2022.
@mr.redneck2715
2 жыл бұрын
@@Qukslvr I throw thousands and thousands of shoes and no improvement although I do watch and try to put everything into play!
@Qukslvr
2 жыл бұрын
To improve past where you plateau after logging thousands of hours you might need to change something. Look for unnecessary movements that you can eliminate or add something that you’re not doing that might improve your overall delivery.
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