CO2 Laser Cutter! Great addition to the shop or just an overrated piece of equipment?
@vihai
3 жыл бұрын
You may want to fix the price, $15000 seems too much :)
@umbratherios5614
3 жыл бұрын
co2? somewhat outdated. the co2 tubes do not last nearly as long as fiber laser diodes and are, often times, more expensive than fiber lasers. ok, I may not be totally sure about the price, but the longevity of the co2 laser tubes puts me off a lot.
@ProtonOne11
3 жыл бұрын
How is the noise-level of the machine running? And what about the filter unit? I was hoping you would cover that aspect in your video too. And how long is that laser tube going to last, before it needs to be replaced?
@sacrificialrubber779
3 жыл бұрын
That’s awesome!!! Want! Curious about carbon fiber!🤔 I build rc airplanes, this would be incredibly handy!!!😲😲😲🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻
@billkaroly
3 жыл бұрын
@@umbratherios5614 fiber lasers are way way more expensive than a CO2 laser.
@frollard
3 жыл бұрын
From plenty of laser work at our makerspace - we started with an 80 watt china rabbit laser. It's fairly excellent in it's terrible way. After we fell in love with it, we dropped the big money on a Trotec speedy laser. It has a solid state infrared laser...but it has 80 Austrian watts, instead of 80 china watts. It's literally twice the machine for power and precision. Things that we've learned; 1) you are right, try to set the focus to midway through the material or you will end up with angled drafts on your parts (acrylic cuts that won't stand on edge because of the angle) 2) More passes at lower power is good. The total power spreading over 2-3 passes is the same as the instantaneous single cut power overall, but there is way less heating as the part has a chance to cool between the passes. Like you say when using any tool - let the tool do the work. Don't push too hard on a saw or it will bind, same(analogy) with a laser. 3) DO NOT EVER LEAVE IT UNATTENDED. Our makerspace got our first laser donated on the grounds that we had to completely refurbish it after a it burned down the previous owner's shop. He cut several successful pases of a project in foam core (paper+foam laminate - cuts like butter but extremely flammable). He hit go on another pass then went to the bathroom. A part being cut out fell into the mesh below the work piece and received an extended zap of unfocused beam causing it to heat, melt, and immolate. These things are to making what helicopters are to flying - they are trying to kill you every chance they will get. 4) I wouldn't trust the plastic vent hose. If there is a fire, it will melt and catch fire itself. Stick with metal flexible duct. Consider adding a smoke detector just outside the lid. If the fan fails, you have a fire with enough smoke to leak out of the machine (or melt the lid), and you ignored number 3 - you will want to know ASAP. Keep a fire extinguisher nearby. If the lid on this machine is acrylic, a small fire inside the machine will HAPPILY ignite the lid. An acrylic fire is extremely energetic. 5) The fumes from most cuts are particularly toxic with high combusted fume, and ablated particulate offgassing. Definitely filter if no other option, and recommend even some filtering if you're venting outside, as you wouldn't want a commercial operation polluting raw waste into the atmosphere, even small scale adds up if everyone did it. 6) You say it shipped with the mirrors in alignment - Most mirrors won't stay that way. Don't mess with them unless you have to, but definitely learn how to adjust the mirrors and the telltale signs of misalignment (cutting spot becomes a cutting 'cone'). 7) Keep the gallium nitride lens immaculate with specific lens cleaner (no industrial cleaners or windex). A tiny soot buildup will gather a large chunk of your 30 watts on the lens, heat it, and crack it in no time. The air assist through the nozzle will help but it's not perfect. Consider (if this machine doesn't have it) to add a filter to the intake of that air pump so that room air dust doesn't get blown onto the lens. (was an oversight on our machine). Edit: 8) others asked below - what about metal. No. It doesn't have the power and will reflect off of anything metal. It will etch the anodizing off of aluminum really nicely leaving bare metal colour underneath. Highly recommend checking out a product called Cermark. It's a molybdenum ceramic coating that you spray on, let dry, then laser etc. It gives indellible black markings on metals - you've probably seen products made with this kind of marking before. It's expensive for the spray can but it goes a long way on small projects. Edit again 9) Some acrylic parts will benefit from annealing in an oven to relieve the stress after laser cutting. This stress can cause 'crazing' (those countless microscopic cracks you see in cheap plastic dinnerware that has been through a dishwasher after a few years). Enjoy!
@CNCKitchen
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the incredible amount of information!
@frollard
3 жыл бұрын
@@CNCKitchen You're welcome - thank you likewise for always sharing as much as you do. Since you put so much effort into it, I figured I could toss in a few lessons we learned!
@mrskwrl
3 жыл бұрын
How do I save a yt comment?
@frollard
3 жыл бұрын
@@mrskwrl copy paste? :)
@frollard
3 жыл бұрын
@Secret Sense Jewelry engraving steel without spray is probably exorbitant expensive. Infrared mostly just bounces off at these power levels. I think you would need a yag fiber laser $$$$ instead of an infrared CO2 laser $. Whatever you search for just remember in the end you get what you pay for. For hobby work the cheap solutions might be okay... For production work you don't want a laser repair hobby.
@douglasswright484
Жыл бұрын
The ink tank system appears to be much better than the cartridge system kzitem.infoUgkxciSwynMJ7PnUvvx11rewiu-yFBkZTl53 and a lot cheaper to run. The machine was easy to set up. A small point but I thought they'd be a USB cable included to help with the set up but there was none. I've been using it now for a few weeks and it seems like a good product and superior to my previous printers which were all troublesome HP machines.
@honestlyraw
3 жыл бұрын
Great honest review Stefan. We are retailers in Portugal for Flux and you just touched the right buttons. The Beamo is a great maker machine and it speeds any workflow if used wisely. The bigger Beambox and Beambox Pro are generaly faster and the bigger cut/engraving area helps.
@acolize8883
3 жыл бұрын
Love the new music, it really added more vibrancy to the video!
@suivzmoi
3 жыл бұрын
PitmasterX uses it a ton. Eyes saw CO2 laser by nose and brain thought of BBQ
@BertNielson
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks. This looks like a great unit. A great ecosystem, even with a higher price tag, is the reason I recommend Prusa printers to those less interested in the tinkering aspect of 3D printing. Too often people overlook the long term costs of their time in making a hardware purchase. I'm not in the market for a laser cutter/engraver at the moment, but I'm certain I'd rather benefit from something like this instead of a fiddly less expensive unit. An auto focus sounds ideal!
@IstasPumaNevada
3 жыл бұрын
That's the exact reason I got a Prusa. I didn't want to fiddle around to get it working properly, I didn't want to save hundreds of dollars only to then spend hundreds of dollars on upgrade parts to improve its performance; I just wanted it to work well from the start. And the i3 MK3S that I got lives up to that expectation admirably. (Benchy printed out great, first time.)
@Tombsar
3 жыл бұрын
I chose Prusa because I wanted to support people actually designing machines rather than copying other people's. That and a power supply with CE mark and the correct plug fitted. Never trust unbranded power supplies.
@hanshubert6675
3 жыл бұрын
wow, i had no idea that you can get co2 laser as a mere consumer. what a time to be alive :) although the most interesting part about those things is cutting glass which this one cant do -.-
@ruleslawyer
3 жыл бұрын
They have been around for ages. For around $400 you can get a k40, which is a bit of a project like cheap chinese 3d printers, but way more doable in price for a hobbyist.
@DC-ox4rc
3 жыл бұрын
I once engraved a glass with a CO2 laser and 5 minutes later, just standing on a table it exploded violently. Take note of that.
@JustTechGuyThings
3 жыл бұрын
There is no such thing as engraving glass, you're basically causing micro fractures on something that can cause explosions.
@CNCKitchen
3 жыл бұрын
Good to know.
@DC-ox4rc
3 жыл бұрын
@@JustTechGuyThings yup it probably had some internal stresses that have been disturbed while "engraving".
@The_Mimewar
3 жыл бұрын
Thermal stress. Gotta keep the glass a stable temp. Usually involves warming it slightly before lasering and then tempering it slowly as it cools
@JamsterJules
3 жыл бұрын
I've etched hundreds of glasses without any exploding. Low power, and smear the surface with washing up liquid - thats the key.
@diegopiumatti1086
3 жыл бұрын
I'd like so badly to have a machine like yours.. I'm full of ideas about what I could make with such a good and reliable laser cutter! A whole world in my hand! Sadly, this is definitely not a price tag for an hobby.. and I can't afford to spend this amount of money just to enjoy myself and to make objects that actually are pretty uselless. This is gonna remain a dream I'm afraid, but thank you very much for such a good video, it keeps me dreaming!! Greetings from an italian neighbour, in love with Germany since I was a kid
@basicmods
3 жыл бұрын
Just a note, you currently have an extra 0 in the cost listed in the description. Currently says $15000. Edit - already corrected! Stefan is on it!
@CNCKitchen
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, fixed! Been working too much today ;-)
@basicmods
3 жыл бұрын
No worries! Completely understandable and easy mistake to make. Great video as always. I have been looking at a laser cutters and this unit seems very well setup right out of the box.
@zelimirfedoran9720
3 жыл бұрын
Price shows as $1899 in the store for me? Where is the 1500 coming from?
@pauld8747
3 жыл бұрын
@@zelimirfedoran9720 1500 with a handie
@cda32
3 жыл бұрын
I see anything from 1500 to 3000 in the EU. What the heck is going on? :P
@phibre1772
3 жыл бұрын
I would love to see a 1on1 comparison with the glowforge...maybe write them too 😉
@Putifly69
3 жыл бұрын
I want the glow so bad cause it has a wider cutting space
@Putifly69
3 жыл бұрын
And way bigger
@LorneChrones
3 жыл бұрын
Requesting metal engraving tests and other thin plastics (hdpe, polycarbonate sheets?)
@DDMetzler
3 жыл бұрын
And test rubber sheets please
@nukularpictures
3 жыл бұрын
Poly-carbonate does not cut well with a laser. Nasty fumes and burned edges. Everything above 0,5mm or so is basically impossible. Made that mistake once before when I accidentally ordered the wrong material. HDPE cuts okish. The problem is it melts too easily. So if you do not have enough power it will just start to melt the edges instead of cutting it cleanly. You need multiple fast passes with reduced power to get acceptable results. With rubber sheets it depends on the material. There are special rubbers for laser cutting (LOR). Those work well. Others just burn.
@LorneChrones
3 жыл бұрын
@@nukularpictures Noted! I haven't gotten a clear answer of if PC is CO2 laser cuttable or not. What other plastics are laser cuttable? What about PETG films?
@nukularpictures
3 жыл бұрын
@@LorneChrones Well like I said. PC is not really cuttable. Thin foils work, plates are basically not possible. At least that is my experience. I have not made any experiences with PETG. Sadly I am not at home right now so I can not test it. But from what I have heard from other people it should work fine and be similar to PMMA.
@frollard
3 жыл бұрын
Infrared won't touch anything specular like metal - it just reflects off. At best at 1% speed and 100% power you can barely dimple mild steel - but all the reflections will put a huge amount of heat back into the lens possibly damaging it. HDPE melts, and polycarbonate burns black without cutting well. Tonnes of black sooty smoke from laser. do not advise. thin PETG cuts relatively nicely if you move fast to prevent too much melting. Other replies here, Rubber sheet is good and bad. Latex smells atrocious and gets a sticky gum residue on it (like the latex de-vulcanizes). The gum washes off eventually with soap and water. marketed 'laser engrave' rubber sheet for making stamps is amazing. You engrave the negative and end up with very high precision stamps.
@MakenModify
3 жыл бұрын
I have an heavily modified K40 which is a death trap fresh out of the box. Would not recommend it to people who don't know what they are getting them selves into, there this product seams to be a better alternative. To the filter: At university we had a big commercial CO2-laser with an even bigger filter and as soon as you started to cut acrylic you knew that that filter might help but that that still is nothing that you want to do in your office or living room. So I think your filter works (just as bad as most other filters). Great video :)
@anthonyrich1592
3 жыл бұрын
So we've got a new sound to replace screen peeling: expanding vent tubing! :) Thanks, Stefan, it was interesting to hear about the wavelength difference between diode lasers and CO₂ lasers. I'd always wondered why there was a difference in their materials handling (ignoring the reflectivity of metals).
@GoingtoHecq
3 жыл бұрын
We have a co2 laser in our hackspace. Works well. I don't use it much but these machines are incredibly useful.
@shyamdevadas6099
3 жыл бұрын
Fabulous video! I'm a Glowforge owner and have never been happy with it. I think this thing is better for me. Thanks!
@richiethebartender
3 жыл бұрын
I love your very German sense of humour! Great video, dude - you have a new subscriber! :-)
@Section59.
3 жыл бұрын
Much more expensive than even a fully upgraded k40, which I already have. 1500 gets you a much bigger cutting area, grbl conversion to use lightburn, air assist, a proper cooling system etc.
@oneclutchman
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Hope to see some interesting and useful results using this machine👍🏻
@OldCurmudgeon3DP
3 жыл бұрын
I don't know the difference between IR and thermal vision wavelengths, but the clear materials you reference are reflective at thermal wavelengths. Almost like a mirror when I was doing thermal scans for work.
@keenheat3335
3 жыл бұрын
This might be completely out of left field. I was wondering if you use the co2 laser to perfectly caramelize a steak's surface that just been sous vide-ed ? I image the with precision of the laser, you can perfectly crisp every inch square of a steak without overcooking the meat beneath it.
@peterzingler6221
3 жыл бұрын
Won't work with a Co2 laser. Lasers are racist the coulours need to match
@TurboSunShine
3 жыл бұрын
very cool, did you try any metals?
@TurboSunShine
3 жыл бұрын
@@kommentfloh8425 haha, sorry ^^,
@jonahbarlow9445
3 жыл бұрын
I’m curious as to how well that textured glass would work as a print surface
@jonahbarlow9445
3 жыл бұрын
Or how well other engraved materials work as print surfaces
@BRUXXUS
3 жыл бұрын
That's a great idea!
@SidneyCritic
3 жыл бұрын
I was going to mention the same thing - lol -. I sandblasted a jar with a cheap $20 gun to show Teaching Tech how to make glass rough, but I couldn't get him to try it on a 3D printer.
@helgemoller5158
3 жыл бұрын
Stephan. please explain the security issues of this thing! The clear Plexiglass is a no go, that needs to be coloured to filter the light of the installed Laser. So, ich hab schon einige hier auf YT angemeckert ( Phillips 3D Druck, Pommes Man wegen Ihren laxen Umgang mit den Ortur Lasern) An einer Nozzle meiner 3D Drucker kann ich mir vll, die Finger verbrennen. Aber selbst diese Diodenlaser könnten dir das Augenlicht nehmen, wenns blöd läuft..
@CNCKitchen
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment. Do you have any sources that the clear plastic does not protect against the 10600nm laser? I totally understand your concern for the ~450nm blue diode lasers though would think that the cover is fine for CO2. Will research that as well.
@lawrie83
3 жыл бұрын
Colorless Plexiglas® sheet (aka acrylic, PMMA) is entirely opaque to infrared wavelengths from 2.8 microns up to 25 microns in thicknesses of 0.118" (3mm) or greater. Eg see plexiglas.com optical and transmission characteristics.
@TrueThanny
3 жыл бұрын
It's an infrared laser at around 10K nanometers. Plexiglass is entirely opaque to that wavelength. Though you can see through the lid, to the laser it's no different than a solid sheet of metal.
@Tomaskom
3 жыл бұрын
For thicker, harder to cut materials, I'd try two or more passes, adjusting the focus between them (through running the same job multiple times). There'll be a limit to this as the walls of the cut groove will eventially block most of the beam getting into the focal point, also maybe degrading their quality, but I'd be curious how far it can be pushed!
@santiagoblandon3022
3 жыл бұрын
Pretty cool! although... Idk about the price... it is usually pretty cheap to have stuff laser cut, and considering the limited lifespan of the laser tube... as you say.. it is worth doing some math to figure out if buying one is justifiable
@agepbiz
3 жыл бұрын
Great review! This looks like a nice machine
@mintzbuck
3 жыл бұрын
I've had a 50watt CO2 laser for several years. It is a great thing to have around for hobbies and making pieces to sell. I think they are pretty essential machines to have and open up a lot of possibilities for what you can do in a shop. It sounds like a good package for $1500. Has a lot of nice features it sounds like. The bigger issue for me would be the power, 30watts just isn't very much. But if that much power is enough for the materials you use and can live with the small size, it seems like a really nice package.
@Travis_Yu
3 жыл бұрын
More powerful laser needs more powerful cooling. I'm not very sure but I think water-cooling system can't handle 50watt laser so it will need a chiller, which will add significant volume.
@mintzbuck
3 жыл бұрын
@@Travis_Yu The bigger problem with a higher water laser is the tube itself is longer. I'm guessing that is a big reason why this thing is 30W. I have an external chiller but it barely runs the actual chiller. You could probably get away with running a 360mm computer cooler radiator.
@Travis_Yu
3 жыл бұрын
@@mintzbuck Turns out beambox pro from the same company use 50watt laser with water-cooling system. Can I ask you did you run full power with your machine for a long period of time?
@mintzbuck
3 жыл бұрын
@@Travis_Yu We usually run a mix of engraving and cutting for several hours at a time without any issues. But only a few times a month. With any of these, if you are going to run it a lot you would definitely want a chiller. We have the chiller because it came with the machine.
@Travis_Yu
3 жыл бұрын
@@mintzbuck Thanks for your information!
@ThePretendgineer
3 жыл бұрын
7 manually specified ad breaks not including the pre-roll is completely unacceptable in a 14 minute video. I love the videos, but I won't be watching any more.
@AndyRRR0791
3 жыл бұрын
What's the lifespan of these things? Does the laser have a limited useful life and expensive consumables at all like laser cutters of the big boys do?
@donrozwick7367
3 жыл бұрын
thank you for the review. I wish I had waited for this one.
@b5a5m5
3 жыл бұрын
Why do laser cutters have a focal point? Why not columnate the beam at the focal point to have a very tight column beam of power instead of an hour glass shaped beam? Limitation of materials? Do we not know of a material that can handle that much power in a small area? Or is it really expensive?
@trischas.2809
3 жыл бұрын
What's the average lifetime of a CO2 laser tube, as they degrade over time?
@Justin-hp3fe
3 жыл бұрын
roughly 2000 hours of use
@CraftySven
3 жыл бұрын
Great review. You might get better results with laser PLY and laser MDF. You mentioned getting plywood in hardware store and that's usually not the one that is laser friendly. Even 120W metal/ceramic cartridge can struggle with standard ply/ MDF. Thanks for the video
@CNCKitchen
3 жыл бұрын
Good tip! I'll check that out.
@TheDgdimick
3 жыл бұрын
You can build your own using an Ender 3, or any 3d Printer for less then $200. My next project is a 10Watt system. Not as nice, yet a lot cheaper to get into a Laser system.
@thetruthexperiment
3 жыл бұрын
My guess is the slack in the belt and the non parallel situation is part of the math that drives the thing. It’s plastic. You don’t want it too tight. If it’s working that means it’s compensating for the slack right?
@haraldhimmel5687
3 жыл бұрын
A lot of horrible solutions can be "working" until they don't but maybe they did put thought into that. It's not like that carriage has to carry a cnc spindle. Plastic pulleys sound a little cheap though considering the price of that thing. Sure they might work fine but what would have been the harm in going for metal?
@fehmihan64
3 жыл бұрын
Guten tag Stefan, I love your videos and how seriously you tackle every aspect each consumer would like to learn about. Keep up the good work! As an Industrial Design Engineer based in the Netherlands, am I currently working on a laser alignement project and got inspired by the mirror allignment setup shown on 2:04. Can you help me making the right step in my process by sending close-up pictures of this mechanism from different sides? Thanks in advance!
@张云瑞-k3m
3 жыл бұрын
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@VorpalGun
3 жыл бұрын
Does laser cutting have any effect on mechanical properties of the cut object compared to cutting the same material with heating methods, such as CNC milling? I'm slightly disappointed there were no strength tests. :/
@CNCKitchen
3 жыл бұрын
Laser cutting has a slight influence on the surrounding material why it's also not often seen in aerospace applications, where waterjet cutting is preferred for example. Sorry for no strength tests 😉
@frollard
3 жыл бұрын
It's hard to know for sure on acrylic in particular - acrylic is insanely brittle to begin with. The flame-polishing that occurs giving the nice clear edges for laser acrylic seem like they would have fewer stress rises compared to the numerous score marks from saw teeth doing the same work. From my reading a decade ago when we got our laser cutter it was advised that you could anneal laser cut acrylic to reduce the likelihood of it crazing.
@reverse_engineered
2 жыл бұрын
With acrylic I do sometimes have issues with crazing where things have been engraved or with many, small cuts. For large outline cuts, it's not a concern. I haven't had a chance to try, but I did buy an oven to try annealing it to relieve the stresses. Crazing seems to happen more with certain brands/sheets than others; possibly old stock that's not kept dry or has been exposed to a lot of light? But I've made many acrylic ornaments and most turned out fine.
@plc_memes
3 жыл бұрын
I can cut 3/8" acrylic (~10mm) on my 45W Epilog at decent speeds even with a severely degraded laser tube. Either your focus was off or the advertised power on the laser is optimistic.
@panaxion
3 жыл бұрын
Epilog's spot size is much finer, so more energy density
@GrandWalkingTours
3 жыл бұрын
great video and full of details , what is the rough time of say laser sketching onto metal that is about 20cmx20cm ? not the full size fully lasered but a nice pattern ?
@santhoshpadaparambil4391
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you sir. 13:22 what kind of material it is?
@voidborn-one
3 жыл бұрын
It's shame that in Europe beamo does not cost $1500 but whooping €2500 and that's a deal breaker.
@flux_europe
3 жыл бұрын
Hi Piotr, to get this to Europe import taxes, shipping costs and VAT are added. This means that we cannot offer this at the same price. Beamo is the cheapest machine you can get with local support. (we have a repair center in Belgium & a growing network of resellers across Europe)
@voidborn-one
3 жыл бұрын
@@flux_europe taxes and shipping costs are everywhere in the World and I won't argue about your business model. I've just stated, that for me €2500 is outside my hobbyist budget. I could get hitten by $1500, but the 2 times of original price I would rather spent elsewhere.
@maxeckl9611
3 жыл бұрын
Buy a K40, put a nice ruida controller in it and buy the lightburn software. The end product is more powerful and flexibel than a beamo.
@deschoenmaeker
3 жыл бұрын
Lol sure, try to buy something else for a lower price, I'd love to see how long it will keep going before it breaks
@voidborn-one
3 жыл бұрын
@@deschoenmaeker the choice is far more wide than buy alternative. I can buy a cut service (ROI up until 2,5km of combined cut lines without maintenance) or I can just not buy/use laser engraver in my projects at all until this emerging "home" market will come to acceptable price - just like 3d printers did.
@brene.p
3 жыл бұрын
Do you get to keep the review unit or send it back? Good review anyway. I don't know what the different laser types are but don't expect a comparison run down in a review video. Possible topic for another video if you haven't done so already. Cheers
@figofagonagoitis
3 жыл бұрын
Can you cut out little details in 5mm plastic ABS for example.
@emraef
3 жыл бұрын
Can you not do multiple passes but have some time inbetween for the wood to cool down? Like do half of the whole thing first, then the last half.
@matteomigliorini9070
3 жыл бұрын
Can you engrave the glass to initiate the crack for cutting it? Also, can you cat any very thin metal at all?
@masimplo
3 жыл бұрын
Just 5 days after the video is released the price is over 2000 euro so nowhere near $1500. Where did you find it listed for 1500$?
@blazerculj2701
3 жыл бұрын
What is the amount of smoke and noise? Can you use it in apartment? What about if you use it with the air filter from Flux?
@sacrificialrubber779
3 жыл бұрын
Carbon Fiber!!! Definitely would love to see that!
@CNCKitchen
3 жыл бұрын
Will do!
@Section59.
3 жыл бұрын
You can't cut carbon fibre with one of these, need something much more powerful
@freakbeet
3 жыл бұрын
@@CNCKitchen i can't recommend it. I've tried it once with an trotec speedy 300 flexx. Man that was nasty as hell, the fumes of the resin are horrible even after the air filter. That's one of the reason why water jet cutter are used for that material.
@patprop74
3 жыл бұрын
No sadly, Well, not easily anyway, and very very stinky. Same with Garolite, which sucks because there is so many great uses for both of those materials.
@Framidan
3 жыл бұрын
I would love to have one of these machines, but what are the cheapest options?
@matneu27
3 жыл бұрын
I think it's worth the money because you have an out of the box working ecosystem with support and maintained software. But a workspace with the size of a paper sheet is IMHO only to produce gadgets and small parts and no furnitures 😉
@davidpolacek4902
3 жыл бұрын
can it cut thin metals?
@desmondhow343
3 жыл бұрын
Is it possible to cut thin metal sheet
@electronron1
3 жыл бұрын
Basically a K40 made the right way and with added features.
@lalaikas
3 жыл бұрын
Is this laser suitable for 316 stainless steel marking ? if not , what laser could be suitable for that ? Also, the pieces would be tubes. Is it a must to have a revolving holder ?
@hansformation
3 жыл бұрын
Hello Did you try to engrave/cut epoxy electronic pcb ?? Thanks
@reverse_engineered
2 жыл бұрын
Fiberglass does not cut well, especially PCBs which are fire-resistant. They tend to melt and burn without cutting.
@DuskPoser
Жыл бұрын
Would this cut 10mm Acrylic if I did 4 passes?
@eefchristiaens4215
3 жыл бұрын
Did you already try precious metal? Is it possible to engrave? I think about engraving gold filled jewelry.Thank you!
@1ricekake
3 жыл бұрын
Made me consider it after watching, thankyou for an excellent review. Any idea why it’s almost $500 more when you get directed to a USA reseller?
@frollard
3 жыл бұрын
Probably import tariffs
@macswanton9622
3 жыл бұрын
So... you don't expect to cut 5mm acrylic cleanly? Cutting acrylic would certainly make it a worthwhile investment
@hejolli
2 жыл бұрын
Hello Stefan, did you tried to cut&engrave faux leather? Thanks!
@JK47SG1
3 жыл бұрын
What about silicone? Would this be too powerful to cut silicone sheets?
@SpeaKaNRW
3 жыл бұрын
I like the flexible hose👍😁
@puerlatinophilus3037
3 жыл бұрын
Please make a video on PLA Ethyl Acetate smoothing! I'm dying to know what you think about it!
@Waltkat
3 жыл бұрын
I'd love to add this to my workshop but the current price (as of 11/8/2020) is US$1900 at Matterhackers for the basic unit. Ouch! Not happening.
@LucasHartmann
3 жыл бұрын
Can you recirculate the filtered air back into the machine?
@joefarr3304
2 жыл бұрын
I've got one of these machines. Great hardware, great firmware in the machine, absolutely terrible PC software (Beam Studio) that was written by people who have no idea about software development and contains so many bugs, gotya's and annoying "features" it's untrue. It's also a shame the bed isn't slightly larger as most of the material I buy from sellers is A4 size, and whilst it will fit, the edges can burn during cutting because the honeycomb panel isn't large enough.
@stevedon9970
3 жыл бұрын
Can you Engrave and cut 1.2 aluminium? Would it be a good machine to have to create Vin plate or tag plates Out of aluminium 1.2 mil thick?
@JinKee
3 жыл бұрын
A phased plasma rifle in the 40 watt range would make short work of that 4mm thick balsa wood.
@reasonablebeing5392
3 жыл бұрын
Great review and product. As mentioned in other comments, there is a value to having a product work out of the box without a lot tinkering. I see many comments about the K40 - it reminds me of early 3D printers that needed a lot of tinkering and time/money to convert into a usable machine. It appears the the laser machines are evolving as well. I've shied away from CO2 lasers because of the price of entry in either case. The Beamo is approaching the right combination of price/performance but still a little too steep for a hobbyist with occasional use. My question is can this machine be positioned over a larger piece and lasered in sections?
@EnsignRedSquad
3 жыл бұрын
Does it need special venting or a BOFA filter? What kind?
@wowatri2890
3 жыл бұрын
Moin Stefan, wäre es möglich, dickere Birke zu lasern, wenn man mehrere Druchgänge (nacheinander, ggf. mit Anpassung des Focus) einstellt? Danke für das Video, gucke mich schon länger nach Laser, auch wenn nach eher günstigeren, um!
@zeuss194
3 жыл бұрын
1500$ for 30w on post card is too much, put some size A3 paper dimension and 50w for the same price => take my money !
@peterzingler6221
3 жыл бұрын
China will give you a2 for 350euro.
@tbullys
3 жыл бұрын
Cut the aclylic?
@ImaginationToForm
3 жыл бұрын
No room for a belt tensioner so you don't have to take the machine apart?
@kataseiko
3 жыл бұрын
The software looks really good, but unfortunately it's locked down to only work with their laser cutters. You can't use it for your self-built laser cutter.. Looks so much better than e.g. T2Laser though.
@MrNursi
3 жыл бұрын
Great review Stefan. I'd very much like to see how it handles aluminium sheet.
@CNCKitchen
3 жыл бұрын
I guess that nothing is going to happen, because aluminum will reflect most of the energy. You'll probably be able to engrave dark anodized aluminum or painted metal.
@easaspace
3 жыл бұрын
It does engrave anodized aluminum without problems. Any color. But cutting is out of the question with only 30w
@mintzbuck
3 жыл бұрын
If you want to cut metal you need a fiber laser.
@ikbendusan
3 жыл бұрын
do you move that lathe around or do you lie down on the table to use it lol
@CNCKitchen
3 жыл бұрын
Rotate it 90° whenever i need it ;-) I'll give her a dedicated spot, when my house renovation is done.
@heavenburnt9055
3 жыл бұрын
Can you use Coreldraw or Illustrator with this laser?
@martinblack1164
Жыл бұрын
I have one of these at home... Only think I can say is that price definitely doesnt match the quality... Always some kind of issues... Should be more wised...
@certified-forklifter
3 жыл бұрын
nice to have an case.
@MegaTraxxas
3 жыл бұрын
Nice machine
@MrJunkiePlay
3 жыл бұрын
The chinese 40 watt laser on ebay ... i used to have it before i threw it away after 2 years of tinkering, it wasnt at it rated power it did not even want to cut 5mm wood i had to use about 5 passes before it cut it aqrylic would not cut at all and alining it was a nightmare on its own and the water cooling was more then jank, and the conector where the 16kv come into the laser tube was just wrapped around the tube connector and not fasten down sooo ay move while shipping and your dead on touch
@jurgenwiedekind431
3 жыл бұрын
Wie sieht es mit MDF aus? Kann er das schneiden?
@张云瑞-k3m
3 жыл бұрын
It can be cut. What is the thickness?I can recommend a suitable machine according to its thickness.We can exchange whatsapp+8613127135107 to help you answer your device questions online
@tyler345100
3 жыл бұрын
is the beamo good for engraving and cutting wood...or would i need something stronger
@CrkdLtrN
3 жыл бұрын
Did you even watch the video?
@nhansgoofyvideos7581
3 жыл бұрын
Would you mind do a test run with anodised aluminium?
@Max3DDesign
3 жыл бұрын
Guten Tag! I'm always thinking about laser engraving machine, can you tell me please, is this machine capable engrave on aluminium or eve stainless steel? Thank you. Max
@angy101rulz
3 жыл бұрын
Any CO2 laser is not able to engrave metals. They can only remove any coating on a metal surface such as paint or powder coating. You can also use a special spray to "print" onto a metal when the laser passes over it. For metal cutting you'll need a plasma cutter.
@marc_frank
3 жыл бұрын
do you like horten aircraft?
@sergetheijspartner2005
2 жыл бұрын
Metals?
@pierdolio
3 жыл бұрын
Is an internet connection necessary?
@CNCKitchen
3 жыл бұрын
No, it's not but it needs to be connected to you local wifi /Lan.
@Polandmet
3 жыл бұрын
can it engrave on steel or cut thin aluminium ?
@kelbyparker9712
3 жыл бұрын
You need a fiber laser to engrave steel facebook.com/groups/4105345129538639/
@petsatcom
3 жыл бұрын
where to I buy a 100 to 200 watt co2 laser to cur 2mm steel
@reverse_engineered
2 жыл бұрын
You can't cut 2mm steel with even a 200 watt CO2 laser. You need very high power CO2 lasers to cut steel. They are often >1KW.
@TheLifeIsAGame
3 жыл бұрын
I want ...
@MrNlce30
3 жыл бұрын
The question is would you have bought it with your own money?
@smotmot
3 жыл бұрын
Any complaints?
@corrievanleeuwen2059
Жыл бұрын
Can you laser cowskin?
@Ideenschmiede
3 жыл бұрын
What about cutting plastics? Did you try that?
@ProtonOne11
3 жыл бұрын
Yes, cutting PLA, ABS, PETG, PA6 and other 3D printable thermoplastics would be interesting. I've seen some 3D print failure recycling videos, where they shredded and remelted the plastic into colorful sheets of plastic in an oven. Not sure if Stefan has done that too. Would be interesting to use something like that as base material for laser engraving and/or cutting.
@The_Mimewar
3 жыл бұрын
Beamo hahahaha. Someone saw a K40 and said “I can charge more for that!”
@nukularpictures
3 жыл бұрын
Well it is just way too expensive. It cost the same as the Chinese 60w or even some 100w CO2 lasers. And those also have pretty good controllers. As a hobby machine, if you want to do some tinkering, the k40 is a good machine. With some small upgrades (controller, bed, mirror and lens holder) you have a machine that is basically the same as this, just costs 800€ or so.
@derekwright2388
3 жыл бұрын
It's the plug and play that makes people think it's worth the extra cost, but what's the cost of a new tube? Or a new lens or a new set of mirrors. What's the cleaning of the lens like? I'll be honest I like my 50w co2 Chinese laser works well for me and about the same price as the beamo
@nukularpictures
3 жыл бұрын
@@derekwright2388 Well thag is the point. Here in Europe you can get a 60W with the 100W tube upgrade for the same price. And those machines have proper linear rails, mirrors, controller, etc. They are basically plug and play. I mean I agree if you want to just use a machine that you want to spend some money extra. LIke I said the k40 is an option if you like tinkering, exploring the machine.
@derekwright2388
3 жыл бұрын
@@nukularpictures I agree, I have a k40 I have upgraded with a new board (cohesion 3d) and added new mirrors and a new head and new extractor and air assist.... And still spent less that £700 on it. My 5030 50w cost me 750 second hand, replaced the psu and eventually tube and mirrors and lens but still less that 1000 quid and it kicks the beamos bum. Add lightburn to the mix and you have a serious decent bit of kit
@cheif10thumbs
3 жыл бұрын
It's $2000usd before you turn it on. I can find no offerings remotely near $1500usd.
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