Tom, thanks so much for inviting me along. It was such a great and fun experience to be included in one of your range tests, especially driving your F-150 which I have been anticipating the launch of as you were. To Tom’s fans, he was being modest by not mentioning that over the past few years, he has given me a wealth of EV education which caused me to buy my 2019 Model 3 instead of another ICE Subaru, and also to become an EV advocate. State of Charge is the best EV KZitem channel!
@vlad2838
2 жыл бұрын
I was wondering if Carmine from the band would make a cameo appearance! Rock on, Pete!
@petebremy49
2 жыл бұрын
@@vlad2838 I bet he would have if I asked him, but I’m in NJ near Tom and Carmine’s lives in Florida now. He loves my Tesla. His son, Nick, owns a Model 3.
@siryoda8145
2 жыл бұрын
We in the audience send you a big “thanks Pete!” for helping out.
@petebremy49
2 жыл бұрын
@@siryoda8145 The pleasure is all mine, to be sure 👍🏻
@mrdsn189
2 жыл бұрын
Compliments to you Pete! I could tell you REALLY understand the methodology and worked hard to replicate Tom’s method exactly. You even were picking different lanes when possible to avoid drafting effects right? Well done!
@jackylsmith8138
2 жыл бұрын
The Pro is undoubtedly the best bang for a buck of any vehicle sold in the USA.
@TheKingOfInappropriateComments
2 жыл бұрын
What I like about this is that the driving conditions were more realistic. Especially with that heat and having to run the air at 2 fans.
@mkj5013
2 ай бұрын
Tom, just started watching your channel and subscribed a few weeks ago. Your non-biased opinion of the truck is what drove me to ultimately be comfortable with my purchase. You live in an area with similar weather conditions to me (I'm in Ohio and my parents are from PA so we all have about the same weather/seasons) so it's been good to see what you can get out of a Lightning with similar conditions to what I will experience. Too many reviews/videos I saw were from sunny California or mountainous PNW or Colorado. They all have their use cases but I felt comfortable that given my driving situation (mostly around town/for my 10 miles work commute and then one or two 500 mile trips back to PA/NJ a year) I would be happy in one of these. The Pro definitely seems to be the best bang for the buck. I got a leftover 2023 Fleet Order Pro ER and absolutely love it (wish I could have your Lariat ER but it was a little outside my price range, hah!). Thanks for not sugar coating the downsides to them but instead helping people stay informed on the those possible downsides and helping them integrate that information into their decision making. Too many people want to just say that EVs are for everyone or that they just suck and noone should buy them and there's not enough out there about the specific use-case of the individual. We are all entitled to enjoy our car of choice (I also have a 2014 Mustang lol) without feeling the need to shove it down everyone's throat. It's clear you love EVs but also recognize they aren't for everyone.
@coreyschmidt734
2 жыл бұрын
That pro model really is a great value. The Mrs.wants an electric Bronco. Hopefully we see one in the next couple years. Thanks for another great video Tom.
@kenmcclow8963
2 жыл бұрын
An electric Bronco would do really well for Ford, especially considering the engine problems the ICE Bronco is having with the 2.7
@jonmarshall3414
2 жыл бұрын
Still think that after a 7500 price increase lol
@sizza7385
2 жыл бұрын
Heck of a review. Honestly, best auto review I've had in forever. I'm a car dude with a truck, amg, and 2 bikes. Thanks to you I'm ready to pull the trigger & trade my 13 ecoboost fx4 for a lightning. (got her new, soup'd it up & have been hesitant to sell until now because she's my baby). I work with contractors/and field personnel so ima convince the ceo to grab some if mine ain't a lemon!!😉 Cheers friend, you got another subscriber!
@mrdsn189
2 жыл бұрын
Wow, thanks so much! What an incredible result! Compliments to Pete, it’s evident that he really REALLY understands the methodology and worked hard to replicate your drive exactly! He was even using different lanes to avoid drafting when possible!
@heathwirt8919
2 жыл бұрын
Another great video Tom, the Pro model with the standard battery did pretty well. This model would fit my usage perfectly.
@iowa_don
2 жыл бұрын
1:16 - Vanilla Fudge!! I was a fan WAY back when. Loved their first album.
@petebremy49
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! We’re still rockin’ 55 years later.
@commanderroddi7742
Жыл бұрын
for a daily work truck, this is a fantastic option, even after they raised the price. if you were able to get one at the original price they offered at... what a deal man!
@turnersinsurance8656
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks again TOM, as my PRO will arrive next week and testing for my own benefit in a similar 'loop' will include some hills and valleys, although not strenuous, but part of the overall 100 mile run - then comes the test on the same loop with my 3,000lb camper to see how that degrades the overall miles - I suspect that I drive slower than your test, and will get 220 miles with the base truck test, and I am hoping for 100 or better with the camper.... we shall see. Yes, the PRO is THE DEAL for a battery-electric TRUCK, which is really also a fantastic SUV 5-seater, a tremendous UTILITY vehicle, and an EV with all the practical TOWING POWER. William, 57, Insurance agent/agency owner, married 35 YEARS!, father of 4 grown boys, and now two beautiful Daughter-in-laws : ) I sold my other two cars, a '14 Ford Focus with excellent mpg of 40+, and our '15 Nissan LEAF, back in MAY since I originally had a build-week of 5/30 - well, that got pushed back no less than 6 times for over 8 additional weeks - I've been without my own RIDE since then!
@arnecarlsson9740
2 жыл бұрын
Excellent episode! Thanks to Pete and Tom!
@pjs12464
Жыл бұрын
Would love this same test during the winter
@mikldude9376
2 ай бұрын
With a family and gear as well.
@daves1646
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the very informative and real world highway test!! Nice to know the Pro delivers in real driving. Now I’m SAD about the price increase for 2023 models. Thanks again!
@texastaterbug5395
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video! I'm next in line at my dealer and could have taken one of their dealership Lariat allocations, but decided to wait on a 2023 Pro. (Unless I can find a dealer selling a 2022 Pro at list.)
@louisstefanelli2447
2 жыл бұрын
Amazing info as usual. Your sidekick seems like a great guy!!
@danielhoffman5089
2 жыл бұрын
Awesome video, I'm waiting on my xlt with the standard battery ordered in January. Wanted the pro but was sold out within a day of my order bank opening up. Put my deposit within hours of release in May 2021.
@elvin5848
2 жыл бұрын
Nice to hear this. My XLT is being built on Monday August 8th.
@danielhoffman5089
2 жыл бұрын
@@elvin5848 I had a build date of 7-25 but it disappeared off the website so don't get your hopes up
@danielhoffman5089
2 жыл бұрын
Maybe Tom can look into my order since he has connections.....please? Order #10842601
@elvin5848
2 жыл бұрын
Actually, my XLT order was originally scheduled for July 26th and got pushed out 2 weeks to August 8th. Keeping my fingers crossed for now.
@nc3826
2 жыл бұрын
FWIW, Tom kept being sent erroneous info about his delivery date... Roman at TFL ended up getting their one soonest, by switching to a dealer, near to where it was produced...
@kegardne123
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Tom! This comparison is very helpful.
@Monkeyheadtpc
2 жыл бұрын
Love the test. Regarding air conditioning: For real world purposes I would like to see the AC switched to some kind of Auto or Eco mode at a set temperature. That's what I do when I drive and I think it most fairly reflects the typical consumption of a vehicle. "fan speed 2" is probably different in every vehicle, but what really is important is a pleasant temp regardless of how the car achieves that.
@Charlesbjtown
10 ай бұрын
Exactly this. I've NEVER done "fan on lowest setting" the typical driver sets the thermostat to whatever temp they like, and leave it on auto.
@Miata822
2 жыл бұрын
Great test, amazing vehicle. I have to think that the price of the Pro model will be increasing next year.
@elvin5848
2 жыл бұрын
Agree. And probably making less of it, maybe 1 or 2% of total production instead of 3% for model year 2022.
@mandov5916
2 жыл бұрын
It now starts at 46k
@rklauco
2 жыл бұрын
This was the best video so far! Amazing. I would buy the vehicle in a heartbeat.
@thomasyoung8116
2 жыл бұрын
I like the comparison, very useful information
@michaelmackey754
3 ай бұрын
Great video! I am picking up my xlt lighting today! (Standard range battery)
@rogerjeck9281
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this review Tom! as usual good yeoman's job, I'm 2 weeks from my pro landing at my dealer!! and getting amped up, also appreciate the honesty on the pro. for my use this is perfect 95% of the time. My plan is to get a local fitter to add cooled/heated seats with leather, lower it couple inches, some kind of step and I'm golden. Will be first on line for the remodeled '25 that will have bigger/ better battery system and whatever else ford does to keep up with the competition, meantime I have an amazing truck for 37,500 that will no doubt be worth all of that if I want to sell it at that point. By the way I do have a cybertruck reserved that will prolly be here about the time the next gen lightning lands. btw, around here ele is 8.9 - 9.1 c/ kilo. Thanks again Tom ~ Roger
@carreviewsgentz8268
2 жыл бұрын
Great Range test, Uncle Tom
@gregandersen8475
2 ай бұрын
You should do a video where you tow a pro with a pro and then take the towed vehicle off and drive it the rest of the way. It would be interesting if two pros together have the same or more range than one extended battery!
@dennislyon5412
2 жыл бұрын
Good stuff Tom, and thanks to Pete for joining you. What people really need to hear is what did the 200 or so miles cost, if you charged at home? At 16 mpg, and $5/gallon, that trip would have cost you about $63 in an ICE F150. For the electric - $15-20?
@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney
2 жыл бұрын
I'm making a video on that now
@harringtonchampion
2 жыл бұрын
How about mountain driving? I do 120 miles a day for work commute, don't see an ev being a reliable source of transport. Also nasty winters here.
@dennislyon5412
2 жыл бұрын
@@harringtonchampion - Chris, EVs are torque monsters, so climbing mountains is no problem. What goes up must come down, so one way will require way less energy than the other.
@ohger1
Жыл бұрын
@@harringtonchampion Unlike an ICE truck, an EV *recovers* a good percentage of energy spent climbing the hill on the way back down. So while your MPG in mountainous driving is greatly reduced, it doesn't have nearly the effect on an EV because of regeneration.
@richardsnyder5402
2 жыл бұрын
Can't wait for Ford to get Blue Cruise more standardized. A 45k base Pro with Blue Cruise would be an absolute steal.
@TNRVG
2 жыл бұрын
Will you be doing tow range tests? I am very curious how far a 3000 - 4000 pound boat could be towed on the standard range.
@MbT379
2 жыл бұрын
Great vlog Tom. Do you recommend individuals that tow should buy an extension cable? This would make it easier to charge when traveling, since many charging stations do not have a pull through. Also when charging at camping sites. Thanks.
@gcnd9031
2 жыл бұрын
Great info. I'll prob end up with a XLT (I can't justify a 20k premium for my needs) but the Pro is a monster value.
@nc3826
2 жыл бұрын
The Pro is cheaper vs a "comparably equipped" ICE XLT... there are Ford dealers that have done the comparisons and posted them online... But ofc buy what fits your needs....
@mikldude9376
2 ай бұрын
Just stumbled across this very interesting test , one of the issues for a lot of people , is cars are a fairly large purchase , some of us keep cars for 15 or 20 or even 30 years or even longer , and if you have an ICE vehicle it has a couple of big advantages. For a start , the range of ICE vehicles , and the fact ICE vehicles generally keep their range pretty close to what it was when they left the showroom floor for decades as long as basic maintenance is kept up. But on electric vehicles , we know batteries degrade , and with that the range too . And batteries are very very expensive. And the other point you already mentioned is that electric vehicles do due to their very construction being a battery powered vehicle burn through energy or fuel at a significantly faster rate than ice vehicles when under load or in adverse conditions . And this has been proven time and time again. As you said , Electric vehicles are not for everyone . In saying that , it would be interesting to see this identical test done on these very same two vehicles in 5 years time and maybe even 10 ten years time to see how the range has held up and the vehicles in general. Cheers.
@dougjurrius5967
2 жыл бұрын
ToM thanks for digging in on the standard range for us poor plebes eagerly awaiting ours! Can’t wait to see results of fast charge test. And maybe range test with roll up tonneau cover?
@skippynj1979
Жыл бұрын
I wish they did the pro with the extended range battery
@bradbeckett3800
2 жыл бұрын
Awesome video! I’d love to trade my tundra in for this pro model. But I do pull a 3500 lb box of a camper. Typically no more than 100 miles one way. Think this would be pretty hard in western pa at this time
@hotelvictortango
2 жыл бұрын
If I remember correctly the range is half of typical range with towing so it should be able to do that, regen. would kick in if it's stop and go.
@bradbeckett3800
2 жыл бұрын
@@hotelvictortango it’s def possible you’re right. Aerodynamic seem to make alot bigger difference than the weight. My camper is a big box. I go back and forth on whether it’ll work for my use case
@phillyphil1513
2 жыл бұрын
Tommy Molo's getting the band back together...!!! 🤙(need to get me one of those official SOC shirts so I fit in at the next "jam session")
@fishingphill
2 жыл бұрын
Really enjoy your videos. Those is just a suggestion. Here in Australia, most highways are 60 miles (100km) an hour. On your range tests how about doing it at the 70 miles and the return trip at 60 miles. Then you can compare how much extra range you get by going 10 miles slower. Also, it would be more applicable to international audiences that have the same speeds as us 👍👍👍🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺
@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney
2 жыл бұрын
It's VERY difficult to maintain only 60 mph on the highways here. Even in the slow lane, I am sometimes holding up traffic driving at 70 mph.
@fishingphill
2 жыл бұрын
That's a shame but it makes sense 👍
@wendyyeager186
Жыл бұрын
I would like to see a towing comparison between the standard and extended range models… nothing too big , maybe 2500 lbs… Just to see how well the standard battery does
@NO_OPEC_NO_PROBLEM
2 жыл бұрын
Sorry Tom, looks like Pete got a free upgrade. Remember possession is 9/10 of law! Great vid
@cs1992
2 жыл бұрын
Great price...good luck ever finding one to purchase
@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, you won't unless you ordered it last year. But eventually, you will be able to get one, probably in 2024
@XexyzKronos
Жыл бұрын
I raced a young kid in an Audi s6 or a8 s5 or something, it was really loud, we were neck in neck because his reaction time was better. But he sure was surprised. Mine is the 2022 standard range lariat.
@patricktangggable
2 жыл бұрын
Tom , Excellent Review!
@cesartrujillo4190
2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting. Can’t wait for the full charging. Make it a live?
@garyclark6747
2 жыл бұрын
Great comparison‼️ Sounds like you have someone willing to trade. 😉
@151amb
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Tom! Given today's news, i'm sure this test is going to be crucial for folks. Guessing we'll see many people decide to order Standard range now given the pricing.
@michaelmackey754
3 ай бұрын
My xlt standard range battery $57,000, 2023 model brand new 0% interest for 60 months plus $7500 tax credit to me that is a really great deal!
@JustinBarkewich
Жыл бұрын
Wow times have changed, I like it!
@ericcindycrowder7482
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for video. I’m looking forward to see real world 70 mph range test on Hyundai Ioniq 6. When will you be making this video? Thanks
@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney
2 жыл бұрын
As soon as Hyundai makes one available for media loans.
@letsgobrandon5800
2 жыл бұрын
214 if you want to push it , the Pro is still pretty decent. Most guys won’t drive that in a day. If you do need more,you always have the bigger battery pack for more $$$. Towing? You’re gonna need a bigger battery like some needed a bigger boat.
@4literv6
2 жыл бұрын
Crazy considering this is a full size crew cab awd truck with 460hp and at hwy speeds it went over 200miles on less than 3 gallons worth of gas in total energy used. As gas is listed at 33.7kwhs of total useable energy per gallon and road diesel is 37.9kwhs per gallon in total energy. 👍🏻😎
@nc3826
2 жыл бұрын
Crazy, how heavy a battery pack has to be, to just carry only 3 gallons worth of petrol power.... And how KZitem experts, love to nonsensically, compare apples to oranges.... lmao ;)
@seanroge
2 жыл бұрын
If you want the pro can’t get the bigger battery without a bulk buy.
@4literv6
2 жыл бұрын
@@nc3826 yet this truck weighs hundreds of pounds less than a loaded raptor full of fuel with 35s does or a ram trx with fuel. And it can beat both of those trucks 0-60mph and in the 1/4mile bone stock without burning anything. But hey that's probably also apples to oranges right bucko? 😂
@nc3826
2 жыл бұрын
nice one sided pointless rant... that only proves my point... buckaroo ;0
@nc3826
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the post. BTW, Would love to see a DCFCing session of the GMC HUMMER EV and its charging curve. When you can get access to one. TFL-EV's brief DCFCing session with it, a few months ago maxxed out at a painfully slow rate. But I still keep hearing GM's claims for it, repeated. So it would be nice to know, if the GM's claimed 350 kW rate, is real or not?
@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney
2 жыл бұрын
I have asked GM on multiple occasions for a loan for charging and haven't been awarded one yet.
@nc3826
2 жыл бұрын
@@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney i guessed that... But the geek in me is dying to know the real facts, since you're the gold standard for DCFC testing... So good luck finding a loaner from someone.... Like from your buddy Roman and his gang ;)
@gmv0553
2 жыл бұрын
@@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney you are so anti GM I would not loan you one either! Your comments on the new Blazer ev turned me off on your channel! I was a loyal follower but now I realize you do not support all EVs since you bought the Lightning. Under 300 miles for the price you paid for the Lightning is pathetic!
@SeahawkAz
2 жыл бұрын
@@gmv0553 Tom M is very neutral and calls them as he sees them. When GM makes a better product Tom will give them a better review
@dylanc9275
2 жыл бұрын
My xlt has 20inch wheels. And we don't get the nema1450 adapter in canada:(
@ubeuonly
4 ай бұрын
The best thing for to do is make the lightning drive itself back to the dealership for its multiple recalls and issues
@RedBatteryHead
2 жыл бұрын
What a huge price difference. I would take 2 instead, too! His and hers 😂 Seriously. That std will cover 90% of the same needs. Don't think the capacity difference really effects daily use.
@halemarine5991
2 жыл бұрын
Should I keep waiting for a Cypertruck?
@Kimbrough87
2 жыл бұрын
YEAH LOL
@thetnoob24
Жыл бұрын
Forgive me if I’m wrong but isn’t the lariat drafting you? Doesn’t that help with range?
@Irish_Mike_NYC
Жыл бұрын
We drove to Florida this past thanksgiving from Hamilton NJ, I’m trying to do the math if we take my lariat SR, I think I would have to stop every 200 miles. I did the trip on fords trip planner & it estimated it at only 3.5 hrs longer than it took us to drive in our Jeep renegade.
@bowefamilyEV
2 жыл бұрын
Did you get the miles per kw from the Lariat’s drive? In theory with the larger tires and weight of the battery I’d think it would he 2.0 maybe? That would be a good think to know to compare those on literally the exact same drove and conditions.
@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney
2 жыл бұрын
It was switching from 2.1 to 2.2 mi/kWh for the entire drive
@ProjectFairmont
2 жыл бұрын
Fords are designed at a cost point that reflects base models. I have had 3 Gen6 Mustangs; EB PP, GT PP and GT350. The one we still have is the EB PP, a brilliant car for the sub $30k we paid. The GT350 was fantastic, but for less than half the money the EB PP is every bit as fun, very economical and frankly handles better with the lighter engine. Sublime Magnetic shocks, huge brakes and supportive Recaro equipped GT350 aside…
@CyberOwners
2 жыл бұрын
At 10:35 Pete talks about BluesCruise and Autopilot, and mentions that BluesCruise you disengage and change lanes manually and it re-engages on its own in the new lane, while Autopilot on Tesla you have to disengage and re-engage. That's true for the free included Autopilot, but BluesCruise is a $1600 + $600 for 3 years upgrade. If you're going to compare, also mention enhanced autopilot ($6000) or FSD. If you have either of those, you don't even have to disengage at all because you tap the stalk and it automatically changes lanes on its own, very smoothly.
@petebremy49
2 жыл бұрын
Having to re-engage is nit picking, I admit, but the lagging can almost be dangerous at times moving to a faster lane.
@skipsteel8553
Жыл бұрын
Very useful knowledge. Thank you. Ideally, it would be great to test a standard range battery on a Pro with all options, XLT SR loaded, and a Lariat SR loaded. It would also be ideal to test them over a mixed highway and city course similar to the EPA dynamometer simulation testing. One question I would like to know is what model did EPA test to determine the range (230 miles for 2022 models, 240 miles for 2023 models) posted on the Pro, XLT, Lariat SR window stickers?
@petrkubena
2 жыл бұрын
21:50 That's not how percentages work. If he has 33% larger battery, then you have 25% smaller battery and should have 25% shorter range (not 33%) and he should be left with 25% state of charge if you are at 0%. So if anything, extended range battery overperformed or standard range underperformed. Edit: Sorry, I may have come across as pedantic. My point wasn't "you made a mistake", my point was in the last sentence - SR underperformed/ER overperformed.
@nc3826
2 жыл бұрын
absolute figures, should be used for comparisons....
@mtumasz
2 жыл бұрын
Thnx for bringing this up. Tom needs a refresher😜
@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney
2 жыл бұрын
This is how I see it - maybe I've been out of school too long! If I use the extended range battery range test as the benchmark (we finished up with 270 miles) then the standard range should have finished up with 202.5 miles (75% of 270). If we use the standard range battery range test as the benchmark, we would expect 286 miles from the ER battery (1.336% of 214). No?
@nc3826
2 жыл бұрын
Bottom line is, that a STD pack rate at 2.2mi/kWh, is more efficient than an ER pack/kWh,, period....
@petrkubena
2 жыл бұрын
@@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney Sure, but you were not referring to the original test at 21:50. You were comparing it to this test and the second vehicle which had 30% left. The second vehicle would've finished with 306 miles (214*(100/70)) on the same day with same conditions.
@rzu7120
2 жыл бұрын
The vinyl seats in this base model are more practical than the cloth seats in the XLT. Do you know if you can order vinyl seats in an XLT?
@elvin5848
2 жыл бұрын
I don’t think so. I’m getting an XLT Lightning within a month, and I ordered leather seat covers for it from Amazon. Those cloth seats appear to get dirty easily.
@rzu7120
2 жыл бұрын
@@elvin5848 I owned a used XLT, and when I cleaned the cloth seats the amount of dirt I got out of them was disgusting.
@joseriofrio8338
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for all the great content! So, in these conditions, at 70 mph you averaged 2.2 mi/kWh. Do you know or can you estimate what the efficiency would be at 65 and 60 mph?
@rotart12arx3
2 жыл бұрын
Who drives that slow?
@bigjim1488
2 жыл бұрын
Can you run this test again in the winter?
@larryhosek6554
Жыл бұрын
Great review. Why did you fake the phone calls? That was 🧀
@D0li0
Жыл бұрын
It would be interesting to do the freeway speed test at 40mph, which is slow enough that aerodynamic drag is minimal versus still a reasonable speed... You could do just a quarter SoC worth, since you can compare it to a quarter of capacity from this test... Pretty please?
@peiguy1982
Жыл бұрын
9:15: But he's drafting you.
@turnersinsurance8656
2 жыл бұрын
by the way, TOM, I'm assuming those PRO tires are the Michelin PRIMACY XC All-Terrains, as what shows as the only option for the PRO Lightning. I'm wondering if switching those out for some all-season/touring tires would give us much greater range, or at least enough difference to warrant the change. I don't see myself ever needing all-terrains, but I also don't see the need to spend $1,000 to change them if the range difference is not big enough.
@andysupple4838
2 жыл бұрын
Come on guys let's do a real world test like a 270 mile back to back trip with the complete time to recharge between trips
@jakes5530
Жыл бұрын
I wanna see a range test with one of these at around 80 mph. 2 kwh seems to be the average in every video Ive seen at 70 mph, but I'm curious how much range you'd lose at 80.
@simonmatthews7512
2 жыл бұрын
Tom you've got your sums crossed up there. The large battery is 33% bigger than the small battery but that's 33% of the small battery. 33% of the small battery is 25% of the larger battery and that is what you should have been reading at the end of the test, 25%. So to end up with 30% is actually slightly surprising and quite impressive.
@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney
2 жыл бұрын
Yes, I realized that later. I was doing this in real-time and just didn't think it through properly. I was thinking about the fact that the ext range has 33 kWh so when the test was done the ext range should have about 8.25 kWh still available (8.25 kWh per 1/4). My bad
@Torahobservantisrael
2 жыл бұрын
Those wheels on the pro look the best of all the rims available for the F-150 lightning IMHO
@jasonpelafigue3091
2 жыл бұрын
I feel the same way. My wife said the other ones, look like ceiling fan blades.
@williewalker8048
2 жыл бұрын
Finally the poor mans version is tested. Thanks Tom as 40k is much more my price range than 80k and above. This would suffice for most people's day-to-day work vehicle. Imagine the fuel savings in a year. Get rid of the mirrors and you got 10 more miles added to the range. 😉
@honesty_-no9he
Жыл бұрын
It would help a lot if just reaching the charging bay from the road was not a trip in itself.
@Scott-iw8yr
6 ай бұрын
Anyone know why the Lightning Pro isn't more popular? I"m considering buying one can get it out the door with taxes and fees for 46k$. Will I miss the tech of the Rivian or Tesla?
@daviidfm923
Жыл бұрын
This truck would have been such a deal if they coulda kept it at 40k. They get significantly more Range then my sr+ does at 70 mph and they where the same price. Plus the added space and ride quality.
@Trades46
2 жыл бұрын
That's about 342km for the metric minded. Honestly for many who just use the truck for commuting with the occasional trip to the hardware store or lugging a boat to the cottage, this is plenty.
@Dularr
2 жыл бұрын
The electric Maverick will be very popular with the commuting crowd.
@darinbrazil5496
6 ай бұрын
for some reason the extended range batter is EPA rated more efficient then the standard range battery. Do you know why this is?
@e-redj
2 жыл бұрын
At that price, even Europe would be full of F-150s. It really is incredible value, and I’ve heard that companies can even get the Pro with the bigger battery. But this is what happens when you take a car that you’re selling a million times every year and put a decent electric power train beneath, the costs stay low. 👍
@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney
2 жыл бұрын
Yes, fleet customers can get the extended range battery. I would imagine at some point down the road (way down the road) retail customers will be able to also.
@rotart12arx3
2 жыл бұрын
Try to buy one at MSRP, add 20K. Now 2023 price increases are between 7000 to 8500 dollars, with more to come.
@adamchoi8136
2 жыл бұрын
It has 100kwh more than the mini. Haha how far electric cars have come. Can’t wait for the next five years to see the advancements.
@Resist4
2 жыл бұрын
Why wouldn't Ford use the same 18" wheels on all the Lightning models for even better range? But that 214 miles of range on the Pro just isn't enough for me, no matter how much less it costs compared to the others.
@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney
2 жыл бұрын
We all have different driving cycles and needs. 200 highway miles would work fine for me.
@Resist4
2 жыл бұрын
@@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney But if you are going to use it as a work truck, between plugging in tools and maybe towing very light loads or fill the bed, that 200 miles can be reduced to half that in no time.
@petebremy49
2 жыл бұрын
@@Resist4 Towing yes, heavy loads no. Heavy loads don’t affect range as much as the aerodynamic drag of a trailer.
@ourv9603
3 ай бұрын
Why are the 24 Lightnings cheaper than the 23 Lightnings? !
@thein1990
Жыл бұрын
Was this taken before the tax credit change?? Do you still qualify??
@jed7644
7 ай бұрын
Best range in the first indicated 1/4 “tank”, a lot of liquid fuel gauges do that as well. What counts are the units of energy that have to be replaced after a given distance, or miles per kWh. 7 1/2 minutes in, it seems y’all are in the neighborhood of 2 miles per. Ouch
@EVandMe
2 жыл бұрын
I'll be interested in what the Pro does in the winter. No heat pump, no heated seats or wheel and a large cabin. That thing is going to get 80 miles on a full charge in the winter
@turnersinsurance8656
2 жыл бұрын
it's true that this is untested until 6 months from now when we start to see those in the northern state, Canada, and Alaska start to report what they are seeing... though I also assume that many don't drive as much in very harsh climates during the winter, either.
@EVandMe
2 жыл бұрын
@@turnersinsurance8656 I have a standard range mustang Mach-E awd. Much smaller cabin with heated seats and wheel. I get almost a 100 less miles on my guess-o-meter in the winter than I do in the winter
@turnersinsurance8656
2 жыл бұрын
@@EVandMe good to know, and I'm sure it will vary depending on the region and temps... I see that many northern states, Alaska, and Canadian provinces have many parking lots with 120v outlets, I suppose for engine block heating, but it would certainly be an option for EVs, too.
@mts982
2 жыл бұрын
do the test with max payload.
@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney
2 жыл бұрын
I will.
@COddietsch
2 жыл бұрын
Enjoyed your video but don't PROMOTE higher sale prices, you seem to be a good guy and I subscribed but damn. They already raised the price due to so called battery prices. I too am torn between basic, just get the job done and Lariat. But I am 57 and want comfort and nice, the only thing with me is I want leather, moonroof and everything except the fancy blue cruise and driving warning software. But it's a package I guess. Nice video comparison. Is the price difference worth 90 miles.
@BboySnake71
2 жыл бұрын
I see what you say about the price, but can you even get the PRO? Also, if your going the same speed, how are you passing each other? Or is it different footage/editing?
@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney
2 жыл бұрын
You can only get the Pro - or ANY Lightning if you reserved on last year. They stopped taking reservations after they took 220,000 of them in a couple months. As for passing, we did a couple passes (3 or 4) for video during the range test. That wouldn't have any recordable effect on the result.
@BboySnake71
2 жыл бұрын
@@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney ok, cool. Thanks
@richardacerra2975
2 жыл бұрын
Good vid, but I hope you didn't damage your pack.
@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney
2 жыл бұрын
Nah, I've been doing this for 13 years with my EVs, no problem.
@johnnyv9024
8 ай бұрын
If anyone is watching this a year later, Ford doesn't provide a charger with a lightning anymore. 😭
@Bergerac82
2 ай бұрын
No mobile charger. But on 2023s you can get a free Ford Charge Station Pro for home which is a $1300 item
@lucristianx
8 ай бұрын
After owned a Nissan leaf first gen and a Chevy Spark EV. I could squeeze another 10 miles. Obviously not the point of the test lol.
@Demy26
2 жыл бұрын
👍🏼
@jamesg6071
2 жыл бұрын
If only they did an extended range pro that a consumer could buy
@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney
2 жыл бұрын
They will, eventually
@AaronShegrud
2 жыл бұрын
He probably only had 30% because you had been at 0 for a while. I think it's something ford does to give a little extra juice to find a charger so they say you have an empty battery when you don't.
@marinoint
2 жыл бұрын
No, it's absolutely not OK to pay $5,000 over MSRP! Don't promote such a nonsense.
@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney
2 жыл бұрын
You must prefer socialism over Democratic capitalism. Nothing wrong with that point of view, but it's not how free market democracies work.
@02hreblue30
2 жыл бұрын
suckers born every minute.
@petebremy49
2 жыл бұрын
I agree with Tom, but I didn’t get the impression he was promoting $5K over MSRP rather that he was stating at that price it’s still a steal.
@fenceman53
2 жыл бұрын
I am curious about the circumference difference between the 18” ,20” and 21” wheel and tire 🛞 package and why range is affected so much.
@02hreblue30
2 жыл бұрын
unsprung rotational mass. heavier wheels and tires less range harder to get going, keep going, and less stopping power and turning ability. Its that simple. Same reason lightweight wheels, especially carbon fiber get so much better performance
@honesty_-no9he
Жыл бұрын
Blue Cruise is better than AP
@MrNicholg
2 жыл бұрын
Big 2023 MSRP bump as Ford tries to take those dealer mark-ups for themselves.
@puppet-head
2 жыл бұрын
Out of 98kwh it isn’t good though is it. I do wonder what some time in the wind tunnel and some minor aero tweaks could achieve.
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