New Focus RS takes on the might of the GT-R. For more Ford news and reviews visit www.autocar.co.uk/ford/ and for Nissan news and reviews visit www.autocar.co.uk/nissan/
2:33 says it all. Left for dead out of that corner.
@mcokgo
9 жыл бұрын
2 awesome Cars !!!
@amessad
15 жыл бұрын
The autocar's "real world" tests are probably the auto tests i ve ever seen and make sense to the every day driver/customer.... excellent job !
@sailorenlil
13 жыл бұрын
@Kamukix Not really. The main feature of a Rally is that the drivers DON'T KNOW THE COURSE until the race itself. The Navigator can only tell the driver what the next turn or crest is. Road hazardconditions (dust, dirt, debris, water, weather, etc) remain unknown variables there. Notice during the race in Targa Tasmania it's dry at times and rainy the next. It's not part of the Navigator's pace notes.
@drush525
10 жыл бұрын
Damn you Ford! Please make the RS available in the states. Fair trade, UK get the new Mustang for 2015 (which is going to be a block buster hit), the states should get the RS!
@Kazi2812
10 жыл бұрын
No, it will be a failure over here.
@drush525
10 жыл бұрын
Kazi2812 well i guess we'll see when Ford posts record earnings and sales numbers this next year won't we. Why don't you get back with me then?
@KPKaccountt
9 жыл бұрын
I dont think it will sell a lot. Not being offensive or anything but, large proportion of American buyers expect a higher prestige for a car at that price. Even if its a Focus RS, its still a Focus on their mind, so it doesnt feel special enough for them. I personally would buy it, but I dont think a large number of of Americans will.
@elusivellama
9 жыл бұрын
Heard the news? Focus RS coming to US and Canada.
@drush525
9 жыл бұрын
elusivellama I hope its not a detuned version.
@detective3728
9 жыл бұрын
Hate then ppl call the GT-R a Supercar.. It´s a sportscar!
@detective3728
9 жыл бұрын
No? Even Nissan says its a Sportscar..
@MattHassig
9 жыл бұрын
***** Its a supercar.
@detective3728
9 жыл бұрын
Matt Hassig No, sportscar!
@MattHassig
9 жыл бұрын
***** Seriously though, it's a supercar. How is it not?
@detective3728
9 жыл бұрын
Matt Hassig Really? Well, is the R34 a Supercar? No! The R35 is like the R34, a Sportscar.. Then Nissan launched It, back in 2008. They called´it there new Sportscar like a 911 or 911 Turbo.. That Simple. A supercar is something special like a Lambo Aventador or Pagani Zonda, how can you not know?
@jordanclarkson2010
11 жыл бұрын
Both are fantastic cars to be honest, I can't say either are bad at all. Ok I admit I would rather have the GT-R, but I wouldn't be disappointed with the RS, and no it isn't actually that overpriced, it offers a lot of bang for yer buck but is also practical as a hot hatch should be. This is a good test as well.
@sailorenlil
14 жыл бұрын
What launch control?
@bign3ck
10 жыл бұрын
Focus RS is too heavy, has no poise, it's like trying to slice a tomato with an axe. Too much power too, it';s a sloppy car which just understeers. On a track, i recon a 200hp EP3 type R would beat it silly.
@ChoppsyV
9 жыл бұрын
No one gives a flying fuck about a Civic Type R. They're slow as fuck.
@rayongreen8538
9 жыл бұрын
your a fucking ricer. Hondas are for little girls
@jamessmith84240
8 жыл бұрын
+inthepuss 0610 I would not say slow as fuck... There are plenty of cars on the road that will beat them but vastly more that will lose. Especially for what they cost to buy / insure / run as a daily driver.
@19grand
6 жыл бұрын
Have you a clue what you're talking about.
@mtprince09
3 жыл бұрын
There is so much wrong with this comment it’s not even worth correcting.
@statzietech
8 жыл бұрын
"This" comparison needs to be updated for 2016! Nismo GTR /Focus RS
@yomonstruo
14 жыл бұрын
what was the result?my pc got stuck and i cant see the video..:(
@wanror
13 жыл бұрын
is it high way car and city car comparison? sorry im not good with cars...
@Scotracer1987
14 жыл бұрын
Have you driven them both?
@im1greatman
14 жыл бұрын
@Felipecabesas But what happens when they have the same amount of power?
@grownjohnboy
7 жыл бұрын
This video is before the introduction of the 2017 all wheel drive 2.3 turbo RS
@EatmyDust1311
14 жыл бұрын
@DATSlovely would you consider buying my ford raptor?
@1d9o8g9
13 жыл бұрын
@FrenchCanadianSean what car does canadian produce?
@sourovhossain8409
13 жыл бұрын
where is that location
@Hectectica
13 жыл бұрын
I like comparisons like this, comparing the attainable with the not-so-attainable and evaluating the differences in the real world.
@cobraman897
14 жыл бұрын
@andreamussi1989 is it a volvo engine?
@Antifaith29
11 жыл бұрын
is that 350 at the flywheel? Thats a decent amount for a small car like that either way. bet she moves along quite well indeed.
@sonnysingh03
12 жыл бұрын
Wow both of my favorite cars at my favorite airfield!
@lipteek
14 жыл бұрын
how about the new spec-V???
@LOGIKLAG
14 жыл бұрын
they do that?
@fpvgtking
13 жыл бұрын
no, also available in australia
@dhale750
14 жыл бұрын
What a road; Buttertubs pass in North Yorkshire! This test though has been done many times before, just the age old comparison that shows that on public roads that you don't know all that well, theres only so fast you'll be willing to drive, regardless of how fast the car you're driving is.
@sw1000xg
14 жыл бұрын
Yeah it's so hard to choose these days so many cars in all price ranges. Golf, Focus RS RX8, Honda Civic, Evo X 370Z, SLK350, the list goes on and on...
@monsterimp1
13 жыл бұрын
@Kamukix also depends on the driver.
@turbo311
14 жыл бұрын
Yeah that Capri is a nice car. Reminds me of a Datsun 240Z or Mazda RX-7 gen 1. Love those old sports cars! Luckily we get the next gen Euro Focus and the Fiesta next year. Take a look at the new Taurus SHO. It's badass for a big car.
@kjbrooks2010
12 жыл бұрын
@MrCalendarboy i agree if it has any performance flaws it makes up for it in safety and luxury its unmatched in my opinion
@charlesholzy
12 жыл бұрын
@chiwiitube You can't turn it off on public roads or else you void the warranty. It's only when the GPS registers that you are at a track does it allow you to disable it without any consequences
@cavey1965
11 жыл бұрын
R mode does not affect breaks and the only reason the fuel consumption increases is that the driver tends to be driving the car harder. When R mode is engaged across all 3 settings it also reduces the stability control allowing the car to slip more in the corners. You can turn off the stab control altogether but it's claimed that if you do it will invalidate the warranty so never tried that :) Still a pretty good answer especially for a 10 year old :))
@rowanlewisuk
5 жыл бұрын
So your other video shows a clio rs is as fast as a focus rs on the road. And the focus rs is as fast as a gtr. So a clio is also as fast as a gtr?
@Slipknotyk06
14 жыл бұрын
He's got a good point, confidence is what driving on a twisty road is all about. If you know exactly where the car is going every single time with little to no variance, you have more confidence. That Nissan keeps wanting to tear loose when given too much throttle in the corners. For this kind of road, I'd prefer FWD to unevenly-distributed AWD
@GMike3
14 жыл бұрын
i meant to buy it in Mexico, the price is 450,000(about 34,500 dlls)go with some dealer from Laredo TX, cause i dont recommend you to come to Mexico if is not a beach or if you dont know the place, good luck, i hope i get mine by the end of this year
@ceebowone
12 жыл бұрын
@GFXKallum you dont need to tell me about the pro and cons of all drivetrains due to me being a performance fabricator and started racing carts since a pup, and i regularly attend track days wit so i know the difference, and in my experiences not much compares to the gtr with track times and especially consistancy, i have a 280kw fwd turbo converted nissan pulsar and a 350rwkw s14 silvia and nothing beats rwd.
@ucg102
14 жыл бұрын
This wasnt a duel it just was a review of 2 awesome cars
@declansimkiss3316
12 жыл бұрын
why dont they do the fiesta st vs focus rs ?...
@era562
13 жыл бұрын
question............. is it possible to get the RS in the U.S
@EatmyDust1311
14 жыл бұрын
@h38604460 on a wet track only, on a dry track awd will actually slow a car down. rwd also allows etter launches, despite the gtr having launch controll (although it voids the waranty)
@alienlivingform
15 жыл бұрын
both cars looks amazing
@cozmium
14 жыл бұрын
Ok, now I want to say first before I get carried away, I genuinely respect Autocar as an old name in the business. However, as has been said this is not a 'vs' so much as a comparison with normal road speeds, as 'of course' the speed limits would have been obeyed. This from the outset means the GTR is just humming along, not being pushed at all, which is obvious from both driver comments and observation. Oh, and it is NOT a "60 grand supercar" it is a four door saloon, as fast as a supercar.
@12389h
13 жыл бұрын
@shobin05 The problem is the video title. When you put "vs", it's only natural for people assume it's going to be a race.
@stitcha123
14 жыл бұрын
3.21 - jean reno?
@XoXogorjuzXoXo
13 жыл бұрын
1 question why is the RS front wheel drive
@SebastianvonGrunf
14 жыл бұрын
@TUNDE88 british review of a anglo-german car actually. But you've got a point there
@brimac729
13 жыл бұрын
awesome road, near tan hill pub of the A66 near darlington, took my rs over there a few times and its awesome, just watch for sheep on road.
@ceebowone
12 жыл бұрын
@GFXKallum it doesnt matter what ppl think of the gtr cause its rep and track times speak for themselves. my 280kw fwd pulsar does 12.3et and is very quick around a race track but it doesnt last for many laps like all fwd, the front wheels are under too much load, wit straightline, corner traction and braking all directed 2 the front wheels while rwd have its traction and power stress directed to the rears which leaves the front wit only braking stress which obviously means the tyres last longer
@Fisherdaz1
15 жыл бұрын
I know it sounds daft but i think i would, there's something overly clinical about the GTR. Although, i have just read EVO magazine and discovered that the Mountune ST is faster than the new RS up to 140 mph (thats when they run out of track!), and not just a little bit either, 0.5 of a second over pretty much the whole range!! And thats without the suspension upgrade so i think i'm best off keeping mine, the eibachs have made it even better!!
@GFXKallum
12 жыл бұрын
@markrskinner True but you cant compare the two cars ones 30k and 70k.
@petayV8
12 жыл бұрын
@cosworthben88 ill take your word for it since i havent driven it myself but i still think it would be a better car and in a higher class naturally if it were RWD not saying its no good as it is... im sure its fun and the current setup works well
@BobUy00
13 жыл бұрын
@cytomatrix I think he's saying that opening the taps on a public road is easier to do in the cheaper ford.
@farhanb4914
8 жыл бұрын
I am looking forward to the next skyline gt-r. if it ever comes back..
@lonelymuro
13 жыл бұрын
today i spent from 9am to about 1pm in the RS and i got to tell you it is an awesome car, fast, stylish and even though it is front wheel drive it is so much fun!!! however driving in the real world the RS is a very stiff car, so you feel every bump on the road. however when you go up windy roads it is a lot of fun. overall amazing little car, just make sure you get it in BP Ultimate Green colour.
@cruizin85
14 жыл бұрын
agree with you 100percent....too many people buy cars that practically drive themselves...for me i'm a purist when it comes to motoring....don't need some fancy computer system in between myself and the tarmac, just raw mechanical engineering
@era562
13 жыл бұрын
@era562 idk, is cus i never seen one here in any dealer
@EatmyDust1311
14 жыл бұрын
@h38604460 well there goes your argument. and the more power a engine makes at the flywheel, the worse the drivetrain lag in most cases. it also depends on the transmission setup
@Distracto76
14 жыл бұрын
They have a valid point about the Focus being just as good on that road. We should all be able to relate to certain roads taking away from a cars capabilities. Things like bumps, curves banked the wrong way, and so on. It is very possible that the Ford takes that road as well as the GTR can. On a track, there is no comparison, but they already said that, right?
@Hectectica
13 жыл бұрын
@Kamukix Exactly.
@Kamukix
13 жыл бұрын
Excellent comparison, sadly it seems that 90% of the people commenting are either way too young to drive or don't understand in the least bit basic automotive truth. This is the same comparison as having a Mazda MX-5 on a windy road and then driving a Dodge Viper right afterward. Sure the Viper/GT-R will absolutely CRUSH it on track, but that means less than nothing on a real world road. You simply can't push a car of that caliber out there. Hurts but it's 100% true every time. Kei
@numbers111222
13 жыл бұрын
with a camera car in front you will never lose him!
@luckitself
11 жыл бұрын
how many times does he say this?
@geppegep
12 жыл бұрын
@markogozila aand its a front wheel drive
@Wildicon19
14 жыл бұрын
Actually the Ford Focus is a Rally car, that is why if faired well along with the GTR as it was out of it's element. I have a Focus and it handls really well in tight courses.
@RobertMayfair
14 жыл бұрын
I thought this was a great test. The only problem is in the US we have strict speed limits and very few twisty roads. If we want to do high performance driving, it has to be on a track.
@Fisherdaz1
15 жыл бұрын
Lol. Belive me, i couldn't believe it either but i'm very happy about it! Its the current issue out at the moment. One orange and one blue lambo on the front cover. Sept, 2009 is the issue name and its page 126/127. The mountune got to 130 half a second faster than the RS and the RS was only quicker between 100 and 120 mph in 4th gear, every where else the Mountune was considerably quicker. The RS has too much power for front wheel drive, thus the mountune can put it down better.
@hrsonsea
12 жыл бұрын
dude! dont know if im just imagining or what but the narrator dude looks just like the partner of Jacques the inspector in the Pink panther
@b145701s
11 жыл бұрын
firstly, the RS is a brilliant car.. and secondly, the purpose of this test was how much FUN you can have with both cars.. thats why they compared so different cars
@SleipnirEADG
13 жыл бұрын
@FrenchCanadianSean Unfotunately most people in the states dont' know how to drive manual as you pointed out. But in the specific area where I come from in Ohio we use mostly manual transmissions. But me I just prefer the greater control over the vehicle inherent with a standard. So take it easy on us. Not all of us have forgotten how to drive..... but most.
@coolerdude44
14 жыл бұрын
@chaoticend27 there's hope now that the new focus will be sold in the us
@machedari
13 жыл бұрын
@camaroman101 thank you for your honest comment.
@sailorenlil
14 жыл бұрын
I wonder how the Focus RS would have fared in the Targa Tasmania Road Rallies? (the last one in 2009 was interestingly won by the Nissan GT-R).
@Metlhead443
13 жыл бұрын
@urmom4877 Please explain how it's a ricer when it's made by the European division of an American company?
@beefcakemonsta
14 жыл бұрын
let me give you guys a good example on how bias this test is: "two boxers got inside the ring for the fight, boxer01 can freely do what ever he pleases. the other boxer02 can only use 1 hand during the fight, because his trainer said so" trainer: the electronic limiter of the GTR boxer 02:GTR boxer01:focus RS
@EatmyDust1311
14 жыл бұрын
@h38604460 the caterham is completely street legal. it has the ability to drive over speed bumps. both requirements to get on the poower lap board on top gear. they also both have tha seme power/weight ratio. the bugatti also does not have a comfort suspension, on the track they had it in handling mode, which lowered the ride height, raised the wing and increased downforce
@keleki88
12 жыл бұрын
why he didn't put the two buttons to R and the other to OFF ??
@MrSeanwaz
14 жыл бұрын
@mxfrench12 agreed. i have an 04' svt and the rs to me is just the perfect daily driver, or so it seems.
@HVMSSamtex
13 жыл бұрын
People often don't realise, it's not about USING the power, it's about HAVING it ;)
@edfdsfsddsgfdsgsd5525
6 жыл бұрын
Focus RS is really one of the best car in the world
@HENRYHOBBS1
14 жыл бұрын
@garryinblack yep,look it up
@EatmyDust1311
14 жыл бұрын
@h38604460 awd is only a advantage in a 1/16 mile drag race. also, the zr1 has no computer launch controll
@MustangsCanTurnToo
14 жыл бұрын
@earwigeye I didn't realize you had a point. Where is it? When I was little my friends and I made bow's and arrows using sticks and kite string. The didn'y work very well but back in the day, we thought they were deadly! We made the "arrows" sharp by rubbing one end on the pavement. Maybe you should try that with your replies, it might give them a point. It will likely be impotent and useless but at least it might resemble something! Have you picked up a copy of Buffy and Mack yet?
@markrskinner
12 жыл бұрын
@GFXKallum We ain't talking about a tuned RS though.
@King17Fire
12 жыл бұрын
Hey man!What is THIS?
@1SBD1
15 жыл бұрын
and isnt the G35 infinity based on the V35 skyline anyway? there fore making the R35 GTR based on a skyline.
@sailorenlil
14 жыл бұрын
Then you've lost the bet already. The GT-R has been capturing win after win in the Super GT/Japan Touring Car Championships since its debut in 2008 (in 2008 alone, the GT-R scored 7 wins in 9 races (though by different drivers/teams) in the Super GT).
@briggs9187
15 жыл бұрын
you are right, torque does the work out of the curve...
@99MCougar
13 жыл бұрын
@lookout11569 Because it would be as fast as the Mustang.. lol I'm not sure but they are bringing the Focus ST to North America.. I think it's going to have around 250hp out of a turbo 2.0L
@sdstig
13 жыл бұрын
@andycgtr Then I've touched a Ford GT and sat in a Mercedes SLS. Does that count for anything?
@scrokostas
13 жыл бұрын
@markogozila they should compare z350 and rs
@EatmyDust1311
14 жыл бұрын
@h38604460 the bugatti veyron has awd and a power to wight ratio of 500 hp per tonne. the caterham 7 is rwd, and has a ptw ratio of 500hp per tonne. the 30k caterham is faster around top gears test track than the 1.6 million dollar veyron with the most advanced awd system in the world, but the same ptw ratio
@Fisherdaz1
15 жыл бұрын
Top gear really does kick arse!! I totally agree with you, i reckon 4WD and put it up there power and speed wise with the fastest EVO's of this world. As it is, it's just a heavily tunes ST with too much power that can't put it all on the road, and as a result, it would seem, an ST with 260 bhp is faster! I really don't know what team RS were thinking. The escort and sierra cosworths were properly quick cars, but the focus RS just seems to be another quick hot hatch. Its a shame.
@StigRossi
13 жыл бұрын
@FrenchCanadianSean I've sat in if not driven both the GTR and C6 Vette, and i think they are comfortable. Of course, I drive a Caterham and ride a Ducati so they are comfy by comparison to my vehicles, tho I suppose any vehicle would be, even a lorry!
@Forkandles88
12 жыл бұрын
I think this is a great video personally and know where they are coming from. The GT-R is an amazing car and is in a league of its own, especially given its value for money, as is the RS focus.But on normal country roads, even me in my diesel mapped mondeo st, can fight my own and keep with hot hatches like the civic type r and vxr astr, even imprazas. Thats not a boast but they can only get so much grip and can only accelerate so hard before having to slam on the brakes. I know from my cbr600!
@bigretardhalo
14 жыл бұрын
The point you make is exactly the point the video made. That the GT-R is a phenomenal track car but in the real world a cheaper car is usually more "fun" to drive. They could have used the Evo X or the Impreza WRX Sti instead of the focus and I am sure they would have drawn the same conclusion. That on that stretch of road, they were more "fun" than the GT-R while also being cheaper. That was the whole point of the comparo. They said again and again that the GT-R was phenomenal.
@oldfashionedwrx3574
11 жыл бұрын
agree
@sailorenlil
13 жыл бұрын
@Kamukix Also, by your logic the Corvette Z06 should have demolished the competition in the 2010 Targa Tasmania which it took part since it thrives on the straights. In reality, it was nothing more than a footnote in that race (it finished 16th place, as far as 10 minutes behind the race leaders, including the 3rd placing GT-R).
@BloodGoneCold
11 жыл бұрын
Great video! Don't listen to the haters. This is what happens in real life! The haters probably think a murcielago would be good on these roads...
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