Hey Flight Test! You guys have some amazing going on here, thank you! I'm new to planes (been flying quads a while) and the FT Mini Arrow was is my first successful foam board flying wing (or any scratch build plane for that matter). I don't want anyone to go through the frustration I did trying to get this thing flying. Followed the video and the instructions on your website as precisely as possible only to have a wing that wouldn't fly without adding 250+ grams to the nose. After searching and searching forums I discovered that it was possible I was using a much heavier foam board. I just finished building my second Mini Arrow tonight using Adams (Readi-Board) brand foam board, weighed it... It's half the weight of the first Mini Arrow I made, weighing in at 270 grams with all electronics. Also, I installed all receiver and ESC in the front of the wings instead of right in front of the motor. Not is it now half the weight of my last attempt but I didn't have to add any dead weight to the nose so it would be balanced! I'm posting this for one reason: I don't want anyone to go through what I did because they had no idea how much the weight of the foam board could have on the plane. If anything can be added to your instructional video or site that will alert people of this I think many people diving into the hobby will have a much less painful entrance than I did. Again, you guys are awesome, I just feel like this would be more helpful to people than it may seem.
@dagobb
8 жыл бұрын
Great share Eddie!
@cryaesthetic3603
6 жыл бұрын
Great Scott!
@meleosierra6498
3 жыл бұрын
Happened the same thing with me!! The first time i did it it didn't fly because the foam board that i used was heavier as you say. Anyway, i solved the problem putting a more powerfull motor and a 1100 4s battery.
@drewames6793
4 жыл бұрын
I just maidens my build. I used 2mm Depron for the wings and 6mm Depron for the fins and pod (because that's what I had). The power train was salvaged from an old HK Rare bear which had long since gone past the help of hot glue ;). Maiden was awesome and effortless. Great build video and easy to build and fly design. Thanks.
@MasterMayhem78
8 жыл бұрын
Wow! Just wow! Just took mine out. The thing flew like it was on rails. No trim needed. Absolutely amazing maiden flight. I even met some competitive FPV quad guys. Thank you Flite Test. I will be purchasing other kits from you in the future. Most likely an FPV quad next.
@ammo193
5 жыл бұрын
I built one myself a few days ago....but I went crazy and overpowered it. Basically I didn't do the centre pod, I wanted to install a 3s 2200mah! To counter the nose heaviness I installed an 80g 2836 3000kv motor with 60a ESC, it balanced perfectly and flew AMAZING!! This and the bloody wonder are my favourite FT designs :) Thanks FT
@rlachermeier
8 жыл бұрын
Thank You for putting the time stamps of the TOC. Wish more vids did that.
@spitkwad2746
8 жыл бұрын
love this air frame! already scratch built both versions, its fast and fun! and just 2 dollars of foam... Just crashed(totaled) a little 250 quad might just build 4 more wings from the carnage lol ! even built clean wing version ready to go slope soaring as soon as weather permits. Thank you Flite Test you Keep the hobby alive and well! God Bless.
@wiredforstereo
5 жыл бұрын
What you heard right at the end of the flight was the ESC overheating. Happened to me, not much airflow inside the fuselage. Mount the ESC on top in front of the motor and it will stop being a problem as well as freeing up some space inside.
@terjetularsen
8 жыл бұрын
I really enjoy my FT Arrow scratch build! Shipping to Europe is so expensive it doesn't make sense to order the quick build kit. Thank you so much for sharing the plans :-)
@willemvergouwen
8 жыл бұрын
Please do a setup video showing the layout for the fpv gear in this amazing piece of art! Great design Josh!
@EgoIsFlawed
8 жыл бұрын
your builds are great. Good personalities and great instructions. Truly enjoy watching. Really would like to see a series of races with various aircraft and courses, FPV and LOS.
@makingthings277
8 жыл бұрын
Exactly what me and many others were waiting on - Excellent video! Your going to get many people into it for the first time, including myself at some point.
@karterjones9590
8 жыл бұрын
I don't know if anyone else caught the, "We are trying to keep it under .55lbs" comment, because that made my day!! :)
@NoAgendaFPV
8 жыл бұрын
+karter koob I am interested to see what the weight comes in at on this. Hopefully some people that start building at home will weigh theirs. Needs to be a battery installed weight.
@karterjones9590
8 жыл бұрын
+NoAgenda Drones I'm going to build one soon. Everyone that gets done before me should post the weight of theirs!
@karterjones9590
8 жыл бұрын
+NoAgenda Drones I'm going to build one soon. Everyone that gets done before me should post the weight of theirs!
@karterjones9590
8 жыл бұрын
+NoAgenda Drones I'm going to build one soon. Everyone that gets done before me should post the weight of theirs!
@karterjones9590
8 жыл бұрын
+NoAgenda Drones I'm going to build one soon. Everyone that gets done before me should post the weight of theirs!
@jacoblinks3763
7 жыл бұрын
just got my arrow finished i have the maiden on my channel very happy about it and also josh thank you for the inspiration to get into the hobby
@karlhess7278
3 жыл бұрын
I am printing out the plans to make my first. Soooo excited
@ChadBennettSr
8 жыл бұрын
Great tutorial!! I have extra electronics laying around, along with some foam board. I may give this a try this weekend!! It'll be a nice break from my quad building.
@djDTOUR
8 жыл бұрын
This is a perfect plane to build out of spare miniquad parts! My old 3S setup now has a new home, and I got spare parts to boot!
@Marshcar
8 жыл бұрын
Dieter Woerz nice!
@assassin1a1
6 жыл бұрын
That’s my plan too! I’m just a little concerned about fitting my batteries in it. I don’t have any 3s though. Can you fit a 4s in there?
@gbdawg8248
8 жыл бұрын
Awesome, small, tough wing. Great design and totally worth $20.
@ME-zu5kg
8 жыл бұрын
Brill. As I have just got one from your shop I'll be watching this loads of times thanks.
@TeamSQG-
8 жыл бұрын
Yeah wing's are next big thing. This is probably also going to be our new summer project. we might be racing them through one of our many indoor spots
@TheGalifrey
3 жыл бұрын
So hard to find decent flying wings, so finding this with a full kit for 130 bucks shipped to the UK (with power pack and battery) was perfect for me. I look forward to building/flying it.
@jimmytiler5522
6 жыл бұрын
Nice vid Im new to this hobby but not totally.In my day we had rubber escapements and such heavy bulky stukk nothing like now a days. Im going to make one of these as soon as my servos arrive.Thanks so much.
@Sass_King
8 жыл бұрын
absoultly love it can't wait to get one would you be able to produce a video on the best way to install an FPV platform on the mini arrow ?
@dstu322
7 жыл бұрын
love the arrow, I'm currently building my third one. I'm going to try coroplast for the fuselage this time, since that is where the foam board usually fails
@BOKI797
8 жыл бұрын
Josh; That was a Good Build Video of the FT Mighty Mini Arrow- DIY Build ! Thanks for the Video Dave B. Illinois
@GlitchyFPV
8 жыл бұрын
Already ordered a kit- excited to get another wing in the air! :)
@craigbaize
8 жыл бұрын
Show us how to install fpv in this. I really enjoy y'al!
@jojidalanon4392
3 жыл бұрын
put a FPV camera lol
@craigbaize
3 жыл бұрын
@@jojidalanon4392 well I've learned a lot in the last 4 years! I know how now!
@localinventor7928
8 жыл бұрын
omg. i want to make this in my club at school! only problem it is so freaking loud!! STILL MAKING IT ANYWAY! :)
@lilopotamus8857
3 жыл бұрын
Cool
@MarcosFPV
7 жыл бұрын
I must say thanks for the free plans. I took the same dimensions and made a few changes and with only one sheet of foam board and the plane flys amazing. Thanks again for the plans, great stuff keep up the good work.
@marinostsalis314
3 жыл бұрын
what foam board thickens did you use?
@MarcosFPV
3 жыл бұрын
@@marinostsalis314 i dont remember it was a while ago
@Bazrrrr
7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for an awesome design! Just built this with the hobbycraft foam available in the UK and it looks great, I was hoping to fly it as a slope soarer with the pod too but it seems the foam I used makes the plane about 40-50 grams heavier than the 170 grams described on the site. The higher density made it difficult to fold the wing over and I had to cut a steeper bevel to get it to fold over. I'm hoping to build the versa too out of this same foam which should be less of a problem I hope. But yeah this high density foam from hobbycraft could be an issue when building some of the smaller planes and if it flies well it should be quite robust. I'll post on this again when I get a chance to test fly it.
@JohnBalzac
8 жыл бұрын
Edit: For anyone that may run into the same problem I did. 18:55 he uses the throw gage to setup the elevons, but it should be the elevon setup gage.
@Justforfun-ek7et
8 жыл бұрын
+John Balzac damn, I wish I had seen this earlier! lol, now I need to go back and redo them.
@JohnBalzac
8 жыл бұрын
+Just for fun if you're like me and got the power pack from FT you should have gotten some linkage stoppers, if not then you should get some! With a linkage stopper, If you dont have extra pushrods just carefully try to straighten out the zbend and that straightened out bit should be enough to fix the problem. Good luck!
@florentinb-s.269
8 жыл бұрын
+John Balzac +10000 :) Thanks!
@timbcarlson
7 жыл бұрын
I couldn't figure out which gauge he was using so I scrolled through the comments just to find it. Thanks!
@airplanegeorge
7 жыл бұрын
that is what I thought but I haven't gotten a reply from ft. also can't find any dots to indicate the cg. do you happen to know a good mesurement to find the cg? what elivon angle did you find works for level flight? the lowest angle on his gauge is about 20 %
@Norminal1
5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for a wonderful plane. Just built number 15 scratch.
@Bstrong5001
7 жыл бұрын
Can't wait to build this .. !
@odyss160
5 жыл бұрын
first time flyer, ive built two arrows and flown them. its tough to learn but i havent crashed them but this build done with your speedbuild kit and 4pack with recommended battery, it doesnt stay powered for long.. it does fine for a couple minutes and then just slowly dies out. its frustrating and its turning me off to even wanting it. i dont even get the speed seen in all the videos ive watched. i assure you i followed step by step and made sure everything was done correctly.
@odyss160
5 жыл бұрын
f*pack
@dipshiznit420
8 жыл бұрын
FT challenge idea...get some kind of vehicle (a lawnmower, golf cart , 4 wheeler, a go cart ,whatever) set up a course to drive through , get a drone with the 'follow me' feature , get it in the air ,put it on follow ,put on your goggles , hop in the drivers seat and try to run the course by only being able to see what you are doing via the 3rd person view from the drones camera
@nickademuss42
8 жыл бұрын
picked up an adtec 200 hot glue gun, best glue gun I have ever owned.... fast and very consistent beads of glue due to long trigger throw. Thanks for telling us about it
@13orangeleaf
2 жыл бұрын
I like this wing, not sure if the weight was mentioned in the video because the rules for flying have changed.
@ammo193
5 жыл бұрын
A sincere thank you to Flite test for providing such an amazing plane! I made one last night and flew it today....amazing piece of work!! Only problem was I installed a servo that was faulty (lucky I didn't crash) and now I need to replace it. Does anyone have any tips as to how I can safely replace those servos that have been hot glued down? Can I use a hairdryer to melt it without melting the foam??? Thanks again
@galendcia
4 жыл бұрын
can't wait to make it...fly it, thanks for the diy plan
@alexandrpetrov1110
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for free plans!
@sayyay6230
8 жыл бұрын
Hope the larger wing you mentioned will carry a 4s 1300mah pack since its such a common pack for quad guys to have. Would be great to throw an old motor/esc into one of these and be able to run packs i already have.
@sayyay6230
8 жыл бұрын
+Say Ya great project to get quad pilots flying fixed wings.
@RichVincelette
8 жыл бұрын
+Say Ya +FliteTest that's my ONLY 'want' with this build, I wish it would fit a 1300mah 3s pack people (myself included) tend to have those lying around (especially after moving up to 4s)
@QuadReaktor
8 жыл бұрын
Plans printed, lets build this cool wing ! Thanks !
@nickstubbings
8 жыл бұрын
Nice flourish at the end... really nice build! (as usual!!!)
@teamtytus960
5 жыл бұрын
Sound is crazy
@mrpaulkennedy
8 жыл бұрын
You're a legend Josh
@magaman9962
8 жыл бұрын
Josh, as a retired aircraft systems test engineer with Northrop Grumman Aircraft and fairly new to this hobby was wondering if you are familiar with the Northrop B2 Stealth Bomber? Its a flying wing. If not, check it out. This would be a great design to incorporate into a Rc flying model due to its design in the flight control surfaces. Two speed brakes/rudders at each wing tip a a eleven dead center of the trailing edge (like bird feathers). Maybe you know of a kit? Great job guys, great video . plan to order your Arrow wing kit.thx
@RudyFPS
3 жыл бұрын
Nice, can you show how to make it step by step with all measures😥
@RudyFPS
3 жыл бұрын
Good, can you show how to print the plans
@airplanegeorge
7 жыл бұрын
went with the cg 1 3/4 inch from the motor cut out. ( 2 oz led in the noes). set the reflex at about 6 degrees. guess that was right cause it flew real good on the first toss. did 3 more flights and am now mounting my fps stuff in the noes.
@jogvan1012
8 жыл бұрын
Haha.. I was watching the onter video you posted just before this.. and i was like "God damn it.. i want to build this and then they dont have a Build video and plans!" Haha Amazing.. Im going to download the plans Tomorrow and start a build :D
@AbubakarUsman-yq4sq
10 күн бұрын
Great work and helpful
@Jarcademis
8 жыл бұрын
Great instructional. Please give us more info on the plans for STEM. I have a teen who would love to get involved!
@ianwoodard7705
8 жыл бұрын
flite test you in my opinion the best reviewers of planes quads ext... on the internet you give fair honest reviews of anything you can get your hands on you cover all aspects of the hobby i haven't gotten to building yet but I do have free plans for your delta al rc channels in my opinion should do what you do peter especially with his crazy creations you guys have a special way with foam all of you are awesome designers with unique designing and building techniques "use the table as your friend" i truly idol you all in my opinion the best on KZitem i could watch you 24/7 hopefully coming to flite test 2016 please read :-)
@arjunmali9009
7 жыл бұрын
i every time,first like the video than watch it,because i can asure that flite test videos are simply awesome👌👌✌✌✌keep it up guys
@TroyKelley517
8 жыл бұрын
Great Video ! ! now i'm buying a mini wing ! !
@MasterMayhem78
8 жыл бұрын
Something not mentioned is the roll balance. Using hot glue is heavy. Too much used on one wing vs the other will throw the balance off. The only remedy I've found for this is add counter weight inside the wing as close to CG as possible. You can access that area from the back. If the counter weight is too far off from CG it will throw the natural CG off. This problem could destroy a maiden flight. Details.
@justincassidento7322
8 жыл бұрын
can you guys make another video, or more videos, and how to begin FPV, cuz all I remember you making is a video or videos on how to start flying drones in RC planes. I was just wondering if you guys can make a good tutorial about how to start a TV because all the other ones aren't that great.
@swflreeltime6666
8 жыл бұрын
you guys should do another ft building tour. is Josh Scott still doing ft?
@fpvcrumudgeon4576
2 жыл бұрын
First build! Within 5 min, I'd cut through the paper and cut my finger (paper cut!). I was going to build with the center section, but missed trimming off the wings and made it without the center section. Are there directions for adding the motor w/o the center section.
@joseph033
8 жыл бұрын
Test out the cicada drone, I'm thinking about buying it!!
@the_ep_nerd7311
8 жыл бұрын
Can y'all make a big f4u corsair like y'all did with the P-51 and make a mighty mini spitfire
@andrewdunn9605
8 жыл бұрын
+EP Playen Minecraft The plans can scale up really well. I was just reading a thread on it in the FT forum, thinking about the same plane. The corsair would look amazing at 200%.
@Girthquaked
3 жыл бұрын
What do we do if we have a spektrum dx6e transmitter and ar620 reciever for the servo inputs?
@jamesgodley2065
2 жыл бұрын
Guys... I'm going to make one of these with my son - is worth/possible to add a tiny bit of dihedral - just to give it a bit of stability?
@tttriplevision3911
8 жыл бұрын
Can you guys make a video that explains what events you are attending for 2016?
@tttriplevision3911
8 жыл бұрын
+Michael McDonald If u guys agree with me, please reply!
@AceInvader
8 жыл бұрын
+Michael McDonald I think they have a page on their website about it
@michaelflynn6693
8 жыл бұрын
You could use the the extra tabs for folding landing gear
@Wristworm
8 жыл бұрын
I want to say thanks for all you guys do for the hobby. I built one yesterday during the snow storm. I have most of the parts laying around except the servos. What brand did you use? Thanks again.
@eliasschmidt4112
8 жыл бұрын
Hi flitetest, i just watched the video about the drones delivering drones, delivering drones, that delivers a drone. Then i had an idea, you could take the helicarrier, build a hangar inside it, put a quadcopter inside it and try to fly into and out of it during flight. Greetings
@gabrielrieunier5243
7 жыл бұрын
will you be able to make a video of the fpv devices and the instalations of them on the wing please ?
@epoweredrc
5 жыл бұрын
What motor would be good for this wing but for slower flight? my woman wants this plane but she don't need the speed. nice and easy flight be great. Thanks.
@13strikeasnare
8 жыл бұрын
man i stink at building planes!!!....ive now bought two mini arrow frames,spent countless hours, and managed to mess both of them up royally.....i guess ill try it one more time someday.... if i kill the next one think im out,cant keep wasting money...would be cool if bixler came in the box and built it for you lol.....btw,hot glue is very evil!!!.....found out spray paint is too unfortunately!!!....only took me 2 frames and 40 bux to learn both lessons ,screwing up both frames now!!!.....live and learn i guess,i know what NOT to do now i suppose,and think i know every step by heart ....i think might just stick to quads though,sorry guys....i can build anything ,but for whatever reason higher powers wont let me enjoy this wing sadly....seems building planes out of foam board isnt easy for everyone....pay very close attention to all steps , and DO NOT SPRAY PAINT DIRECTLY ON FOAM-BOARD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! IT WILL DESTROY EVERYTHING SEPARATING PAPER FROM FOAM :-( !!!!!!!! i didnt get that memo, this is my first plane,and i didnt know at all.... use colored packing tape....or paint over top of regular packing tape....or use min-wax polyurethane ,NOT WATER BASED EITHER!!!......good luck building guys
@srul76
8 жыл бұрын
wow.... amaizing... i going to build 1 now... thanks a lot... please continue...
@Pwnzistor
8 жыл бұрын
You guys should make a SeaDuck replica from the animated TV series "Tailspin"- that'd be pretty awesome.
@justaguitardude
8 жыл бұрын
iv read the angel for the aileron is 3/32 above neutral on wings. chris.
@cinarsinan
8 жыл бұрын
600th video !! Cool but i was expecting an episode like 400th video
@hassanmanzar8729
6 жыл бұрын
please tell me about the name of material of the plane's body???
@MW-se6fr
3 жыл бұрын
"It is almost indestructible." - Obviously, you're not trying hard enough.
@bromine_35
3 жыл бұрын
I remeber one someone actually made one and sent it for a full throttle grand slam into a nearby hill There were still some salvageable parts of the fueslage and most parts were ok The pushrods were fubar though
@xaviertwilight7855
2 жыл бұрын
As someone who has crashed this plane perpendicularly into the ground, I can attest to its indestructibility
@airplanegeorge
7 жыл бұрын
great video. looks like a sweet design. just ordered 2 of them.so we shall see. I'll let you know.
@jojotube94
8 жыл бұрын
Is this a good start to get from multirotors into rc planes?
@Shane-Singleton
8 жыл бұрын
nice hand catch
@Bstrong5001
7 жыл бұрын
What do you do if One channel is the servo for the right wing and one channel is the servo for the left wing .. so I guess my question is how do you get them to cooperate so get them to act as both elevator and aileron .. if I pull back it goes up .. and turn right it turns right .. ? right now one stick makes the left servo right and the other stick makes the right servo work ..does that make sense?
@MathijsGroothuis
6 жыл бұрын
Is there an in-depth servo explanation / config movie somewhere? I understand I need the initial setup angle, but does the flap need to go any lower than this initial setup point? It's all somewhat unclear to me. Coming from multi rotors :-P.
@lansinglyon3935
6 жыл бұрын
Hey flite test guys. I just scratch built the arrow and saw you had no power pack F's in stock so I went with the A. Is there much of a difference in Power? I just wanna go fast. Lol.
@sikzTnyn
8 жыл бұрын
Once i get mine built im just gunna sharpie marker the bottom yellow and top orange or vice versa
@thewallacefamily1374
8 жыл бұрын
Hey Josh, just finished building my wing last night and cant wait to fly this thing! what paint do you recommend for this foam? Thanks!
@federicosagun8243
7 жыл бұрын
Josh are your team planning to come to australia??? My 3 years old boy really love your vlogs
@andrewdalton4477
8 жыл бұрын
does the speed build kit come with control horns and push rods and everything or just the laser cut foam
@JOeSJNrForReal
7 жыл бұрын
Hi there. Thanks for sharing. Will it fly with a A1504-KV2700 micromotor with 5" prop? Another problem, those laminated 5mm foamboard is very expensive here. So, let's get the non-laminated and tape one side first then cut. Will this work? Thanks!
@Darthgeese
8 жыл бұрын
My first build ever. So far so good. I'm using power pack F but it seems the motor is pulling backwards? The motor spins counterclockwise and I put my numbers facing forward with the prop. Am I crazy?
@donoru0612
8 жыл бұрын
try adjusting the connectors on your motor and your ESC..as long as the motor is turning the correct way and the prop is facing the correct way it may be a motor issue.
@ghostriderhangtimefpv4318
8 жыл бұрын
motor is going wrong direction for prop, just change two of the esc connections and leave prop the same.
@paulzeee
8 жыл бұрын
New to foam RC - What are you using to paint your foam? Where are you getting the supplies?
@texasapv3757
8 жыл бұрын
I would like to see a video on fpv setup on this plane thanks.
@amanhaman8568
8 жыл бұрын
I wanna build a
@DFX2KX
8 жыл бұрын
+Amani Hamis less then 110g? Oh lordy. that's... well you can't have the center section, and cutting weight holes out of the bottom of the wing might even be necessary....
@adithyanair1900
6 жыл бұрын
What cheap Tx/Rx combo would work with this plane? How many channels and what features are required? I was looking at combos below $40 if possible. Also, what is the difference between power packs A and F?
@ashtonboysen8546
8 жыл бұрын
Can you guy make another sport cub s video? I'm new to the hobby and thinking about buying it.
@arikkumar727
7 жыл бұрын
Hi I am kumar . I made Mini arrow with mm foam board as per your specifications . But the CG is very critical for me as you given in the plan. please slove my problem
@samnelson3526
3 жыл бұрын
21:46 This is so smart
@alexkelly6475
8 жыл бұрын
is the motor mount able to accommodate a 2205 motor and will it effect the performance at all??
@jacobchicks3523
8 жыл бұрын
Could you guys make a video on an EDF wing?
@gulzaarfpv4403
8 жыл бұрын
Is it possible to use a 2204/2300 with 6045 props on a 2s battery to make this more of a trainer, and upgrade to 3s when I am comfortable enough for the speed?
@amszulu
4 жыл бұрын
Is there a super scaled down version? Like with an 802 sized brushless motor?
@susanrc73
8 жыл бұрын
Already ordered a kit, but I'm printing the plans right now! Do you have any paint templates for this?
@kilkennyvfx
8 жыл бұрын
You guys should do plane give aways
@kaanan222
8 жыл бұрын
Is there a lighter material for making smaller versions of the Arrow that use a 3-5" prop
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