Thank you so much for testing the pen pressure! been curious about it glad to see it works just fine
@eddyclow
2 жыл бұрын
Great, can you also try HoloISO. As would like to replace my Steam Deck for the GPD Win Max 2 6800U.
@jawrose2674
2 жыл бұрын
SteamOS is coming directly from valve
@eddyclow
2 жыл бұрын
@@jawrose2674 god knows when' holoiso is now
@umamifan
2 жыл бұрын
@@jawrose2674 The entire point is to check if it works *right now*
@5KO_
2 жыл бұрын
Amazing and detailed video like always!
@jiali5165
2 жыл бұрын
that is womderful, hope my win max 2 with linux system too!
@bhasselgren
9 ай бұрын
Thanks for doing your Linux tests!
@YvanDaSilva
2 жыл бұрын
This is going to be such a nice little netbook ! Can't wait to receive mine.
@theena
2 жыл бұрын
Not a gamer, but genuinely looking at this as my carry on laptop. Linux support just made it better. Thank you.
@eldorito777
2 жыл бұрын
Genuinely curious, if you don't play games, then why even consider this machine?
@Robercomplex
Жыл бұрын
Size/power
@eldorito777
Жыл бұрын
@@Robercomplex fair enough
@minhngoc7480
Жыл бұрын
ha ha me too. not a gamer but IT enginer. thinking anout to buy it for productivities on the go outside home, just considering between this model and one mix 4
@empty3102
Жыл бұрын
Its essentially a pocket computer, whether that means anything for you depends on your use case. For me, I want a terminal, and termux on my phone is just not cutting it. That aside, its insane performance for the form factor.
@insperatus
2 жыл бұрын
Could you try install HaloISO and/or WinesapOS? SteamOS will reportedly be officially supported on the Win Max 2 but meanwhile I'd be interested if anyone can get the hardware adjustments from the quick access menu working. Things like frame rate, refresh rate, TDP, GPU speed, half rate shading, etc. Also, quick suspend and resume while in-game is incredibly important, I'd like to see that tested.
@Go.el_Hadam
2 жыл бұрын
More Linux videos on this hardware. I need to see HoloISO on this device.
@ramonandrajo6348
2 жыл бұрын
I agree.
@dktol56
2 жыл бұрын
Well, SteamOS/HoloISO is based on Arch, so what's working (or not) now is likely the case with Valve's OS. Still worth testing though. Hopefully, some of the driver issues will be worked thru soon.
@TheTricou
2 жыл бұрын
You should try Nobara Project(based on Ferdora 36) is a focus on gaming the distro.
@austintse5719
2 жыл бұрын
Also the distro is made by Glorious Egg Roll who is the developer of GE-Proton.
@RyouConcord
2 жыл бұрын
About to get one of these. Saw your videos and I was sold, man. Was really interested in running linux and since Ryzen 6000 is so new I was worried about drivers on linux
@ticogis
2 жыл бұрын
Great video as always phawx ! Really hoping to see a holoiso review on this device.
@tdome3000
2 жыл бұрын
Can't wait for this baby to arrive in September.
@migpagola
2 жыл бұрын
October
@DKLHensen
2 жыл бұрын
Nice video! I would love to see someone do a video using this machine as a developer laptop.
@CrucialFlowResearch
2 жыл бұрын
What BIOS change did you make? Please explain
@PakoSt
2 жыл бұрын
X11 session? The pen should be working under wayland too but may require a bit of tinkering
@dktol56
2 жыл бұрын
Phawx. Maybe you could reach out to your contact(s) at GPD to see if they can obtain & publish data on the Chipsailing fingerprint reader, so someone can code up a linux driver without having to struggle with reverse engineering. I didn't find anything in a google search.
@PublyoRaymundo
2 жыл бұрын
Amazing video, the only problem was choosing Garuda as distro for the test...
@ThePhawx
2 жыл бұрын
XD lol
@caffedinator5584
2 жыл бұрын
Awesome. Getting the 2TB/32GB for my daily driver and was curious as to how Linux will run. Is it possible to get a run down of what distribution version and any other packages that you installed on yours for the hardware?
@ThePhawx
2 жыл бұрын
This is Garuda KDE Linux. For the most part I was using standard Proton on gaming side.
@minhngoc7480
Жыл бұрын
have you faced any issue with the keyboard or joysticks got stucks?
@caffedinator5584
Жыл бұрын
@@minhngoc7480 no I have not. Solid so far.
@Terreos
2 жыл бұрын
You know it would be really interesting to see how well steam so would run on this machine. So you’d still get Linux and all the added bonuses of having steam is on there.
@eijentwun5509
2 жыл бұрын
Isn't that what he just did in the Video??? He is running Garuda Linux and Steam.
@umamifan
2 жыл бұрын
@@eijentwun5509 SteamOS is a different distro my guy. They will have different configs and packages because! They're. Different. Distros.
@eijentwun5509
2 жыл бұрын
@@umamifan Why are you bringing that up? I know full well SteamOS is a different OS.
@migpagola
2 жыл бұрын
Where is your final Review of the WINMAX 2? Please tell us your final opinion after using it. Screen quality vs Steam deck, is a game changer gaming in a 10 inch handheld? ergonomics feelings, sound, etc...
@ThePhawx
2 жыл бұрын
Understood. I'll be making a complete (but hopefully only 10 minute review) soon
@migpagola
2 жыл бұрын
@@ThePhawxhey you are the best!
@ATONER1
Жыл бұрын
i really love this little thing
@insperatus
2 жыл бұрын
I've been waiting for this video, thank you! What about the fan control hot key though? I suspect it does not work out of the box but I am certain that could be amended.
@ThePhawx
2 жыл бұрын
The fan control is hardware based control. So it works *everywhere* even in BIOS. Same as the keyboard backlight. It just works anywhere.
@ccricers
2 жыл бұрын
Garuda, hell yeah
@eijentwun5509
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for doing this!!! Can you PLEASE try Linux Mint 20.3 and 21 MATE as well as Ubuntu 20.04 LTS and 22.04 LTS MATE editions..... Somehow I think the Webcams will work. If this works..... this will officially be my favorite Laptop ever created.
@eliezerortizlevante1122
2 жыл бұрын
Slap HoloISO and review
@deltaeternum9270
2 жыл бұрын
I second this.
@danielcobia7818
2 жыл бұрын
That's a good omen for running SteamOS on this. I'm going to save my pennies and get one once that's sorted out. Rumor is that Valve contacted them about getting SteamOS working well on this. Hope it's true.
@طارقالعسيري-س1ن
2 жыл бұрын
Why do I see the graphics quality of games with GPD Win Max 2 on Linux is better than on Windows Do you guys notice this thing😍
@goibh
Жыл бұрын
In case anyone is interested, the webcam now works out of the box (NixOS).
@hypenew2930
2 жыл бұрын
Great to see Linux works on WIN MAX 2
@Thomas-ii5ee
Жыл бұрын
I actually got a "[058e:3864] Tripath Technology, Inc. USB Camera" instead of the Microdia which does work on Linux (Mint) on Kernel 5.15 out of the box :) So newer devices might have that one installed.
@w3bsl1ngr
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this!
@Alvuh
2 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Can you do a test with 6800U with an EGPU vs the intel model?
@smnaotrt
2 жыл бұрын
Would appreciate this as well. Basically a comparison of the two models when used with an eGPU.
@ThePhawx
2 жыл бұрын
My AMD unit is a very early prototype that doesn't have eGPU just yet. So I'll have to wait for that.
@xidameng
2 жыл бұрын
@@ThePhawx on Chinese sites, GPD has already claimed and showed a clip of AMD version on eGPU
@tauqeerdarve4101
2 жыл бұрын
@@xidameng Yes, but maybe phawx received this early prototype before they added the egpu support
@dktol56
2 жыл бұрын
Definitely works! Check out ETA PRIME's video on his initial testing of the 6800U model. Guessing his engineering sample is closer to the retail release in features than the one phawx has.
@MrG0CE
4 ай бұрын
ANY UPDATE ON THE CAMERA AND FINGERPRINT SENSOR?
@projectoverthinker
2 жыл бұрын
thanks phawx for your 6800u videos. can you tell us how to change the p state to 2 instead of zero in the BIOS?
@MrMatte1983
Жыл бұрын
+1 - there’s no obvious way of doing it
@sagekage93
2 жыл бұрын
Hey would you be willing to try Nobara Linux on this device?
@Go.el_Hadam
2 жыл бұрын
Yes please do separate Linux videos. At least the distros that matter. Nobara and HoloISO deserve separate videos.
@williamhai3717
2 жыл бұрын
Good stuff!
@TotleStarwind
2 жыл бұрын
Nice video. Would be nice if you could compare the performance of holoiso installed in gpd win max 2 and steam deck
@NOPerative
2 жыл бұрын
Incredible.
@tabithiajones2511
10 ай бұрын
nice, thanks
@pedro4205
2 жыл бұрын
Lock it at 30fps and you are good to for hours of play in some really heavy games. Nice
@brentgreeff1115
2 жыл бұрын
Nice video - just discovered and subbed to your channel. -- I am a web-dev -- Macbook snob for over 10 years, but I want to start doing some game development and play some games. - I travel a lot & was seriously looking at the Asus Z13, but I guess the price has been a factor in not pulling the trigger. - The WinMax is very appealing, - Apple-ish keyboard, Linux support is nice. - Maybe its a mis-conception but the words "premium windows tablet" - just doesnt sound right to me. - and at double the price of a WinMax, I was worried about reliability and especially repairability of a tablet, - this looks like it might be repairable to some extent. - I just ordered an Asus portable monitor, the XG17AHP. - I think this could be an awesome pairing with the WinMax + small mechanical keyboard & mouse. - Do you think I should jump on this? I am always very nervous of brands I have never heard of - but this really seems like a quality product.
@minhngoc7480
Жыл бұрын
same question, i intend to buy it for travelling working too but worry about some keyboard stucking issues as someone told me. they said win max 2 keyboard is not really good, and in my country, no official selling store for this model. so if having issues, hard to find a place to fix it. could you give me some more sharing and advices? thanks!!!
@eatyoursupper
2 жыл бұрын
Does anyone have an idea of battery life on this thing when pulling 15-20 watts?
@Baronvonbadguy3
2 жыл бұрын
Hell yeah glad i can just slap linux on day one and get to work!
@a1batross_
2 жыл бұрын
CS9711 seems to be a fingerprint chip, connected through SPI. It can be found on it's vendor website. Though, there is no datasheet available, and I can't find any mention of that FP chip anywhere else. :( If you want, you can probably email chipsailing and ask them for datasheet but I highly doubt they will send you anything. The only choice is to maybe reverse engineer Windows driver? I dunno.
@a1batross_
2 жыл бұрын
It's interesting that it mentions SPI but you clearly see it connected on PCI. Some converter maybe?
@a1batross_
2 жыл бұрын
Oops, USB, not PCI. xD
@eruno_
Жыл бұрын
will probably try fedora on this when It arrives
@austintse5719
2 жыл бұрын
I'm thinking of pledging for one. I've seen enough gameplay to know its more powerful than the Steam Deck which I have. What I want to know the most is the battery life as most steam deck owners know, the battery life is not great when playing popular steam games. What is the play time for games like the Witcher 3, Cyberpunk 2077 and Borderlands 3. How long does it last just web browsing and playing KZitem videos. How long for office applications etc. A comprehensive battery life test would be much appreciated. Thanks.
@overoula
2 жыл бұрын
you also forget how much unconfortable it will be to play handheld compared to steam deck...i have steam deck and gpd win max btw so i know....and win max 2 will be even heavier....btw i ordered also a winmax2..
@ghostlegit
2 жыл бұрын
@@overoula win max 2 will be heavier sure and not as comfortable but way better performance and better battery life
@insperatus
2 жыл бұрын
@@ghostlegit But Steam Deck runs linux out of the box so it has a huge advantage. Luckily it is easy to delete windows from the LIN MAX 2.
@ghostlegit
2 жыл бұрын
@@insperatus windows is better than linux
@ThePhawx
2 жыл бұрын
I'll be covering these in the full review.
@eruno_
Жыл бұрын
Linux on this would be great
@buckettraveler8398
2 жыл бұрын
So, as for me, the two things I don't care about don't work. I'm thinking of taring down mine and ripping that camera out. The touch sensor would be nice but I can live without it. I was hoping the rumored SteamOS port to this Valve is helping them with would get in your hands. I just hope it's real, not that I need it, I can run Linux fine without it, but it would be cool to see Valve help companies like this get it working on their hardware as well as it does on the steam deck.
@insperatus
2 жыл бұрын
Why bust your ass tearing it down when you could just put nail polish or something over the lens? I too can't wait to see if the collaboration with Valve to get SteamOS onboard is real too, I am really hoping so. If not, I hope projects like HaloISO and/or WinesapOS can get all the tweaks from the quick access menu working. Also, quick suspend and resume while in-game is also incredibly important.
@buckettraveler8398
2 жыл бұрын
@@insperatus I'm opening it to swap out the SSD anyway and I'm sure removing the camera, or unplugging it, is pretty simple once you get the back off. In my other notebooks that is all I really do is unplug them and then plug them back in if I give it away or sell it. The problem with covering it is it still has a mic, I don't find it a huge security risk but in video chat programs or OBS it always wants to use that mic so unplugging it just gets it out of the options in programs. Yeah, I don't remember where I heard/read that Valve was working with them but it would be to Valve's benefit to get third parties using their OS. I'm surprised none of the youtubers that have the Winmax 2 right now have tried it with HaloISO. ETA Prime installs HaloISO on everything else and if it is an AMD APU it seems to work really well, it just has problems with Nvidia and Intel so I hope it just works if Valve isn't going to help GPD officially.
@insperatus
2 жыл бұрын
@@buckettraveler8398 I was thinking about the mic too, assuming you were killing the camera for privacy. I expected it to be a separate device altogether. I would think you could take care of it via software if you're just annoyed about it taking priority, but hey, you gotta do what you gotta do. I am actually shocked we haven't seen HoloISO on the Win Max 2 yet, though I suppose Phawx's main focus isn't linux, but is handheld gaming hardware in general. I believe I saw a comment from him stating he's working on a HoloISO video. Apparently there's another distro working on bringing SteamOS to other hardware, WinesapOS. What I want to know is, are we gonna see everything from the quick access menu working in these OSes? Most importantly, is quick suspend and resume going to work? I asked GDP if they were planning on SteamOS integration and it made the news lol. *Apparently* they will work with Valve to make this happen. With Valve's goals, this makes perfect sense, I hope it happens sooner than later.
@Michael-xt5gv
2 жыл бұрын
Hi! Thank you for the video. I was wondering if thunderbolt works on linux? Thanks!
@K4Ø-p3x
Жыл бұрын
Have you an update about the finger print not working , how it is 3 month later ?
@Spwnt
2 жыл бұрын
did you need to add any special drivers or anything or does this work out of the box with the generic linux kernel?
@minhngoc7480
Жыл бұрын
can you share the guide on how to dualboot install windows/linux on this win max 2?
@eruno_
Жыл бұрын
did you try using gamepad as a mouse? there is button to switch near the gamepad for that
@yogesvaradas5480
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the awesome videos. I’m trying to decide between 16/32gb ram mainly for gaming but also potential as a secondary working computer. Do you think 32 is overkill or makes sense for future proof?
@lucasmcl
2 жыл бұрын
Overkill. The added performance in games and productivity wont be noticeable. Youre better off putting that money towards the inevitable win max 3 which will be an actual 1080p gaming handhelp beast.
@Adaminkton
7 ай бұрын
I bought a thinkpad t14 G3 with the ryzen 6600u, and sadly GPU performance is 2 times worse and extremely stuttery on linux. Obviously something is wrong but after trying EndeavorOS, Fedora and even Ubuntu, with different drivers the issue persist.
@طارقالعسيري-س1ن
2 жыл бұрын
Please test The Last Of Us on the RPCS3 emulator and he will realize how powerful this processor is. Only one game is The Last Of Us. Please, please.😩😩
@remainsmemories626
2 жыл бұрын
What pen are you using?
@RyouConcord
Жыл бұрын
which version of linux was used? Just got my GPD Win Max 2 and Manjaro was not running so great on it lol
@WMARUoriginal
2 жыл бұрын
Mr Phawx, my ideal scenario would be to pick up the 2TB version and partition 1TB each to Windows and to HoloIS/Linux. Would that work with the Max 2? Is there a better way to have both systems? Thanks again! Love your channel!
@ghostlegit
2 жыл бұрын
For what reason? Why are u putting Linux on a windows device. I don't understand
@insperatus
2 жыл бұрын
I'm getting the 2TB 😁 But my plan is to 86 windows entirely hahaha
@insperatus
2 жыл бұрын
@@ghostlegit I think probably because windows is garbage. Spysoft, you know?
@WMARUoriginal
2 жыл бұрын
@@insperatus I’d have to sell the steam deck to finance this purchase and I really love the deck OS, but of course I also want windows.
@ghostlegit
2 жыл бұрын
@@insperatus lol Linux is also Spyware. It's not secure
@MrMatte1983
Жыл бұрын
Having a really weird issue running Cyberpunk on my new Win Max 2 6800U on Linux (Manjaro Gnome Wayland session). On battery power the game runs at around 40fps, but on AC it drops to around 7fps! Any advice gratefully received!
@lucasmcl
2 жыл бұрын
What is the battery life like running Linux and SteamOS?
@akosv96
Жыл бұрын
Is kali linux some special distro that works only or can it run others like Manjaro / Arch /Ubuntu?
@spiritualbrain7
8 ай бұрын
Can you install for GPD WIN MAX 2 UBUNTU ?
@lourock28
Жыл бұрын
I installed holoiso on my win max 3 but the first time I did it the gamepad wasn't working. Second time the touch screen wasn't working. Do you have any instruction videos to help me getting it running. Not sure if I should install steam os 3 or holoiso3. I'm a bit lost.
@sebastian6121
Жыл бұрын
how do you think it's for code, seems like is pretty good for terminal
@ly-jr.2847
2 жыл бұрын
I’m thinking of replacing my surface pro six to this device is it worth it?
@warfaman
Жыл бұрын
Hi Phawx i am trying to get ryzenadj under garuda linux to work.. i am new to linux and I was hoping you could explain how to install it ?
@kartasutanto2277
2 жыл бұрын
Will pop os works as well on this device?
@cristianadrianciuperca9887
2 жыл бұрын
what about steam os on some of these 6800u machines? does it work?
@waspbr
2 жыл бұрын
Hey, could you share your bash (?) prompt code?
@davidcunliffe2986
Жыл бұрын
Im having issues with arch using the mobile modem card any tips?
@BillCipher1337
2 жыл бұрын
Hi, could you look into that stuttering problem of the Steam Deck. They released yesterday a patch, which only fixed it for linear scaling. When enabling FSR its still Stuttering like before
@Terreos
2 жыл бұрын
Is fsr the route of them problem? If so I’ll have to turn that off for the time being until they patch it.
@BillCipher1337
2 жыл бұрын
@@Terreos yea in many games turning on the build in FSR of Steam os will cause random frametime spikes.
@VSMOKE1
2 жыл бұрын
I for the life of me will never understand why people use fingerprint it's like Facebook when it came out everybody just willingly gave all the information to that company
@GammaFn.
2 жыл бұрын
No OS I know of stores fingerprints outside the device itself. I don't have a fingerprint module on my laptop, so I use a very short user password so I can easily use sudo for administration tasks. The downside is that someone could easily guess it if they steal my laptop when it is powered on. (If it's powered off, I'm fine; I have FDE with a much longer password.) However, if I had a fingerprint module, I could register my fingerprint in PAM, and then I could easily use a longer password as a backup. It's all local to my machine, only my machine has the print.
@ErickQuagmire
Жыл бұрын
Does the card reader work?
@祖瑞許
Жыл бұрын
Anyone try thunderbolt 3 Ethernet module in max2 Ubuntu?
@deltaeternum9270
2 жыл бұрын
does the wm2 support dual boot?
@ThePhawx
2 жыл бұрын
Yes
@PashaDefragzor
Ай бұрын
2Large4Handheld
@JeffMcJunkin
2 жыл бұрын
Which distro was this?
@notjustforhackers4252
2 жыл бұрын
The video literally opens on a neofetch.
@QOBRA
2 жыл бұрын
Garuda Linux
@jennyrosedeleon2557
2 жыл бұрын
Is 32gb RAM too much for gaming? I did get the 16gb but I'm getting some silly thoughts.
@g0t3nks
2 жыл бұрын
32gB is absolutely insane and completely unnecessary. Unless you want to edit videos and huge photos on this thing, there's 0 reason to have the 32gB version
@SEVENTEENPOINT1
2 жыл бұрын
@@g0t3nks Even if you planned to edit videos a used m1 Mac would be better lol. 32GB is stupid for gaming right now, I agree.
@AtenedoroGonzalez
2 жыл бұрын
True to what some people say. 32 gig might be too much. but I like to have more than one chrome tab open. so 32 it is lol
@SEVENTEENPOINT1
2 жыл бұрын
@@AtenedoroGonzalez Stop using chrome. Just saved you money.
@ghostlegit
2 жыл бұрын
32 gb is more than enough enough for gaming. However if u want future proof. Just buy the 32 gb model so it will last a bit longer without being extremely outdated
@MobileTechGaming
2 жыл бұрын
Do you know if any what the performance difference is Linux vs windows for gaming
@ghostlegit
2 жыл бұрын
Windows is better with the 6800u. But performance can vary depending on the game.
@ghostlegit
2 жыл бұрын
I don't think installing Linux on a device like this is worth it. Just go buy a steam deck
@Penetal
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great info, I do have a question that I hope you will have the time to answer. Could you check if the "exposed" pcie 4.0 m.2 slot on the back is connected to the cpu or the chipset, and if it is in its own iommu group? I would love to get this and be able to connect a pcie 4.0 gpu via that slot and the adt r43sg 4.0, and even possibly pass it to a vm if needed. Could also be cool if you could do a comparison of usb4 egpu vs pcie 4.0, especially frame times that would feel like micro stutters.
@dktol56
2 жыл бұрын
Not sure about jury-rigging an eGPU thru the M.2 slot, but an eGPU thru the USB4 definitely works - ETA PRIME demonstrated that in his latest video with a new Win Max 2 6800. Awesome little machine.
@Penetal
2 жыл бұрын
@@dktol56 usb4 will perform a fair bit worse than pcie4.0 if it is connected to the cpu, it is possible that it would be a deciding factor for me.
@LegendarySkypenis
2 жыл бұрын
1300 usd. No thank you. I can get a gaming laptop, or I could get a steam deck and a thin and light laptop.
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