GPD shipped me a faulty device (the original Win Max) I reached out immediately with a respectful email. They made ME pay to ship it to China ($120) then refused to fix it. As tantalizing as their products are, I can’t do business with someone like that. Besides, all 3 of the GPD devices I’ve ordered over the past several years have had major QC issues. I’ll stick to Valve or literally anyone else.
@0525ohhwell
Жыл бұрын
Good to know. I have been hemming and hawing over that Win Max 2. That seals it as a no from me. I do end up seeing a lot of complaints about failures.
@7ctony
Жыл бұрын
I won’t do these Chinese handheld due to this. I love them all but valves price and support is the main selling point for me.
@0525ohhwell
Жыл бұрын
@@7ctony I wish Valve had a steamdeck mini or something though. Had to dip into the china stuff for a retroid pocket 3+ but I will say, so far so good with that device.
@DoYouHaveTheBallz
Жыл бұрын
Thank you, now I don’t have to feel tempted anymore!
@m.l.9385
Жыл бұрын
Well, you could order through one of their reputable resellers. I.e. DragonBox for Germany or DroiX for UK/US - you get a (local) warranty and local services etc.
@Roosader
Жыл бұрын
I honestly love mine so darn much. Probably my favorite device I've ever owned. And I can even use it at work thanks to those covers lol.
@RetroGameCorps
Жыл бұрын
Those covers are great! Now nobody at work knows you’re secretly a gamer 😎
@Roosader
Жыл бұрын
@@RetroGameCorps hell yeah brother 😎
@obvious_giraffe8386
Жыл бұрын
@@RetroGameCorps except for the upside down trackpad
@stemdeckesupreme164
Жыл бұрын
* power failure at work. Networks down, no work can be done. "What will we do?" a coworker cries in boredom and disbelief
@Thomas-sj2bd
Жыл бұрын
How is support?
@HardcoreTanoshii
Жыл бұрын
Win Max 2 is the ultimate swiss army knife handheld gaming PC. Amazing for traveling, especially with the LTE port.
@Mantenner
Жыл бұрын
You are literally the only reviewer I've seen talk about the ergonomics, which IMO is a massive deciding factor of this device. That's why you're my favourite channel.
@Slystral
Жыл бұрын
I have a MAX 2021, and while its my most powerful handheld computer i ONLY use it for heavy games that none of my other handheld computers can run, if the MAX 2021 can run a game that the WIN 2 can also run, i choose the WIN 2 everytime. The ergonomics of the MAX 2 look even worse than the MAX 2021 so im content getting a EGPU enclosure and settling with the MAX 2021 for awhile, its not the best, but with a EGPU the performance wont be an issue at least.
@andrewmcgrane3308
Жыл бұрын
The phawx talked about the ergonomics months ago, he's the best gaming handheld channel by a longshot
@Mantenner
Жыл бұрын
@@andrewmcgrane3308 he barely talked about it and nowhere near the extent that it was talked about here, same with ETA
@CHICKENmcNUGGIESMydude
Жыл бұрын
Dosnt matter when u can play on a xbox or ps5 controller
@Slystral
Жыл бұрын
@@CHICKENmcNUGGIESMydude then why have built-in gaming controls?
@jcarr1
Жыл бұрын
I love mine. It's the NetBook I always wanted. I have (still working!) an Acer 10" NetBook I used to play RPGs like Baldurs Gate on, and this fills that gap perfectly. Being able to pick it up and spend a bit on some GBA games is just a bonus.
@nobody_vi3312
Жыл бұрын
I have had my win max 2 since December and I absolutely love it! There are some small compromises but what you get in return is totally worth it. There is also a great discord community that have created tools to really push the 6800u to the limit.
@mdwm1981
Жыл бұрын
Love mine as well but I got one negative. I'm constantly hitting the shoulder and bottom buttons when I'm not gaming and just holding it or using it on my couch. Other than that, this little laptop/console is an absolute beast.
@chinise33
11 ай бұрын
Can connect a USB mouse and keyboard without any problem???
@Dudebrush4pwood
Жыл бұрын
It always amazes me how weirdly comfortable it is to hold and play this 2lb+ mini laptop monstrosity, even for hours at a time. GPD really worked some magic with balancing the weight of the Win Max series devices. My only real complaint is the battery drain and heat generated by pushing the APU. Playing low spec and retro games and using it as a normal laptop all feel great to me.
@a_shuchu_601
Жыл бұрын
I've come mostly for the Steam Deck tutorials and tips but stayed for the great quality content! Love your stuff
@denirio
Жыл бұрын
Im here for the retro handhelds mostly vertical form factor but the quality and presentation is so good how you could you NOT get hype when he reviews anything. Shit if he reviews a Butterfinger I'd stop what im doing. xD
@defective1up
Жыл бұрын
I love mine. Not sure why everyone else seems to hate the controls, but it feels like playing a PS Vita. There's nothing quite like this on the market right now and I do how AYA or similar makes a similar type of device, but this is great quality from GPD, and I've owned a few of their devices over the years. It's absolutely amazing for Wii, GC, and PS2 as well.
@lumeronswift
Жыл бұрын
I adore mine as well - the only thing I dislike about it is that to reach the analogs and triggers simultaneously I need to hold it at quite a specific (and a tiny bit uncomfortable) angle. It's really such a great device, though! I've seen so many people saying they replaced their PC with a Deck, but this thing can actually do it.
@DamnRightDamien
Жыл бұрын
I just don't trust GPD to make a product that doesn't fall apart
@defective1up
Жыл бұрын
I use a pin
@S3MTX
Жыл бұрын
How can it possibly feel like a Vita? Edit for grammar*
@defective1up
Жыл бұрын
@@S3MTX very similar d-pad and buttons
@Cereal.Fidgeter
Жыл бұрын
I never considered these types of machines, but this video makes it easier to digest information. Thanks for the videos and your thoughts.
@PInoyHenyoRito
Жыл бұрын
i must say GPD WIN MAX 2 IS THE ULTIMATE ALL IN ONE after having pc, laptop, steamdeck, switch, aya neo 2,oxp mini, nintendo switch oled, series x, ps5 now everything is dead to me i found the one will never trade again my adiction to trading units has stopped
@jacobnobles8453
Жыл бұрын
I'm not sure how, but I always seem to take my bathroom break around the time the RGC video drops. And then I get weird looks when I go back to the office (we have a brown room in a separate space) 20 minutes later. Sometimes 40 minutes, depending on how far Russ goes down the rabbit hole.
@rope435
Жыл бұрын
Max is a jack of all trades and master of none, and thats exactly how I like it. Want a high resolution experience for older titles with a screen big enough to save your eyes, max 2 has got you. Want to play any current game at 30-60fps low 800p? Max 2 has got you. Want to get office , rendering , 3d modeling, writing, and audio mixing work done? Max 2 has got you. While the max 2 doesn't excel in each area it tries to tackle, it does each one great enough to be a versatile top tier machine, one thing that the typical candybar handhelds (even the win4) will never have. As a retro gamer used to smaller machines, this may not appeal to everyone, especially those only looking to retro game, however it most certainly has captured my heart, and I enjoy using it every day
@AntiPseudo
Жыл бұрын
I do think this might be perfect for indie devs that travel a lot. It has controls for when they need to test stuff, but they never test stuff for more than a few minutes at a time so the bad ergonomics don't end up mattering all that much. Plus you can run Unity, Visual Studio, and probably Unreal on it.
@ArtisChronicles
Жыл бұрын
Now there's a practical use of a device like this.
@MarkTengPhoto
Жыл бұрын
One thing that is undeniable is that the Win Max 2 is one of the smallest laptops you can buy currently that you can still reasonably game with, even completely ignoring the fact it has those controllers (you could still use a bluetooth controller with the Win Max 2). This is great for putting into a handbag for instance, as a regular laptop would not fit. GPD does make another ultra small laptop called the Pocket 3, but it's much pricier and also less powerful.
@typingcat1814
Жыл бұрын
Respect. Thank you for the excellent review. I've owned one since October. I opted for the Win Max 2 because I am a "one device" guy--I don't have nor do I want a separate laptop. I agree overall with your ergonomic observations. Generally I have two use-cases for the Win Max 2, first is reclining on the couch or sitting in my car, where usually it is resting in my lap--or else my elbows are resting on something, so I don't feel the weight very much. The second is riding my stationary bike, where I sit upright and hold the Win Max 2 up. This is the only time I lift it fully up in the air and it's heavy but hey I'm exercising anyway right? Also I have found that while using the gamepad it's not comfortable to hold the keyboard portion horizontally because it bends my hands downward. Instead I flip the screen to 180 degrees (it actually goes a little past that) and hold it vertically. Much nicer on my wrists. However this is dangerous while exercising because I get sweaty and it could slip out of my hands while holding it vertically.
@antlove2k3
Жыл бұрын
Ive had this since December and this is my favorite device. Perfect for my emulation needs. So versatile.
@yokayoksven
Жыл бұрын
I was considering saving up to get one of these, but after thinking about it for awhile I've decided that a 13 inch laptop and a nice small handheld would do me better, instead of trying to combine them into one device. I do appreciate GPD for making this kind of device though. It's different then anything else on the market, and while it's not for me, but it is for someone out there and they are really happy with it.
@Randomness662
Жыл бұрын
exactly what i decided too. have the gpd win 4 “preordered” and i also bought a used surface book 3
@bluebird8004
Жыл бұрын
Yep. Laptop with a nice controller (currently loving the gulikit king kong pro 2-GREAT value) and a handheld is all I need right now👍
@Goalier95
Жыл бұрын
Love my WIN Max 2 since getting it late last year! It's an awesome little mini laptop that you can definitely AAA game on. Most games I have to run it at 1080p instead of the highest resolution and it is just amazing getting sucked in playing with the beautiful 10" screen. For the next version I would love to see a higher refresh screen (OLED perhaps?) and slightly larger face buttons but otherwise, GPD really did a bang up job with this "handheld pc". Playing the Steam Deck is more comfy and is cheaper but oh that display is such a joy to look at. Oh and one final thought: Steam Deck feels cheap and plasticky and the WIN Max 2 is so very premium feeling but after a bit of time, it does get a bit warm but it's not unbearable. Take breaks kids.
@taliefer16
Жыл бұрын
controls are somewhat subjective, (i love the control layout) but why are you trying to hold the bottom of the laptop flat/level when you are sitting? hold it at an angle, flip the screen back a bit, and its much more natural to hold. trying to keep it flat, I can understand why youd find it so uncomfortable.
@martymcintosh5026
Жыл бұрын
that segment was a bit awkward, I'd slouch on the couch playing it
@GameTechTalk
Жыл бұрын
Very excited to see your take on this device, happy to see this video pop in my feed! And so, I'll wish this to myself though I already know I will: "Enjoy!" 😂
@FishyFelix
Жыл бұрын
I got the Steam Deck and I find myself bringing along an external larger screen, Xbox controller and a Bluetooth keyboard. The portable factor of the Steam Deck isn't portable anymore. I hope the GPD Win Max 2 fills that void that I have been experiencing with my on the go gaming setup. One device with everything included.
@BonusCrook
Жыл бұрын
Same, keyboard and mouse are really a requirement for pc gaming
@PM-xc8oo
Жыл бұрын
I have the late 2020 model of this and I find the size to be pretty perfect so I was definitely concerned that this one is a bit bigger. I'd be curious to see the two sizes compared side by side.
@NicoSensei
Жыл бұрын
It's indeed a tad bigger, but still good. I enjoyed the Win Max very much once I got it setup with Manjaro Linux. The Max 2 is a nice upgrade, I set it up with Nobara Linux and it's a beast 😎
@darthvader5996
Жыл бұрын
i Love my GPD win Max 2, but im a Harcore Nerd. You have to love this kind of Small Devices. I Play Games, watch Movies and Coding on this device.
@FS-zt6tm
Жыл бұрын
I agree, it's honestly my favourite device but I acknowledge that not everyone would like it's form factor. To me it's perfect
@austintse5719
Жыл бұрын
I've got one and a steam deck. I use it every day. The deck I rarely use so it's way more useful for my use case. It's a perfect size for me and I use it with a foldable laptop stand I got from Amazon so it's more comfortable to play games on. The keyboard and larger screen make it more useful as a daily computer than the Steam deck.
@hungrrcaio
Жыл бұрын
hey, which fodable laptop stand is that?
@austintse5719
Жыл бұрын
@@hungrrcaio search for laptop riser for desk. It's a aluminium one.
@lumeronswift
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I've seen a lot of KZitem videos saying "I replaced my PC with a Steam Deck", but I can't see that as remotely viable... the Deck is great as a handheld device, but its TDP limit is pretty low, meaning that you can't really amp up its performance much when you plug it in... and you have to carry a keyboard with you at all times.
@afreestone101
Жыл бұрын
I'm probably one of the very few people out there who actually liked the novel compactness of mid 2000's netbooks, while also wishing for something with slightly higher specs than netbooks offered at the time. This looks like it fits that nostalgic desire and is probably a fantastic little DOSBox machine to boot. I'd pay the premium price simply for it's compactness... the gaming controls being a bonus feature. I quite like the slightly chunky thickness as it compliments the diminutive width and height rather well. Most modern laptops, being large but thin at the same time, end up feeling fragile and awkward to handle.
@andrewmalhotra
Жыл бұрын
Thank you!! This is exactly my thought as well. I love those early 2000 netbooks, but they were essentially hunks of junk. Because they were so underpowered. This is super small, yet I can actually do some heavy computing on it. Plus with the game controls on occasion I can game. For reference, I travel a lot for work, so something super small like this is the best of all worlds. Powerful for when I’m at home and it’s hooked up to a screen, but small enough that it’s super easily, portable..
@wahidpawana424
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I don't mind gaming decently at 720p on a met book size laptop. I'm already used to playing games on the switch so I am definitely OK with this form factor.
@Belgarathe
Жыл бұрын
Agree with your conclusion. I suspect this device is more for individuals who have jobs that is more computer centric such as IT. This way they can justify buying it for work but also can use it for gaming.
@sal5440
Жыл бұрын
Who was designing this and thought "we need our handheld gaming unit to be massive and not very portable".
@battman505
Жыл бұрын
I have one, it’s great and the battery is amazing.
@hessex1899
Жыл бұрын
I am a professional penetration tester. I am pretty sure that I am going to be buying one of these. Especially since there is eGPU support.
@FS-zt6tm
Жыл бұрын
good choice...I highly recommend waiting for the release of the One Dock...an oculink eGPU setup designed specifically for the WM2
@choboutube
Жыл бұрын
I had the GPD Win or Win 2, I don't remember which. I never really used it, screen and keyboard were just a bit too small. I already had a GPD XD for casual emulation gaming.
@choboutube
3 ай бұрын
Back here after getting a Win Mini 2023 (with oculink) and impressed with it. I like the design of this one too, like hiding the joystick covers and the easy access to the storage and LTE
@nfriedly
Жыл бұрын
I love my Win Max 2, it's my "do everything" machine. I do hope that GPD builds a smaller clamshell again sometime soon, the Win 2 was fantastic and it actually fit in some of my pants pockets.
@Antifurid
Жыл бұрын
Dude, what KIND of giant are you for that to fir in your pocket?!!!
@seydoumestrekone3143
Жыл бұрын
@@Antifurid He's talking about the GPD Win 2, which is a small device, not the GPD Win MAX 2
@BonusCrook
Жыл бұрын
Is it still going 4 months later?
@nfriedly
Жыл бұрын
@@BonusCrook my Win Max 2 is still going strong. GPD is working on a new small-er clamshell that's been nicknamed the "Win Min", although apparently it's going to have a 7 inch screen and be a little bit bigger than the Win 2 was, which is kind of a disappointment. Liliputing has an article with some prototype photos and a summary of what we know so far. I'm interested, but I might just stick with my Max 2 if I'm not going to be able to fit in a pocket either way.
@ahuman4013
10 ай бұрын
Comment has aged great, considering the mini is now about to ship
@exodous02
Жыл бұрын
When I was a kid I asked and asked for one of those eeepc tiny notebooks and finally got one and . . . it sucked. The Winmax2 is the same size and is the fastest notebook I have ever owned an it has game a controller as a bonus! I have loved mine so far and if they release a new one I'll probably get it depending on how powerful it is.
@lumeronswift
Жыл бұрын
The screen size is actually slightly misleading - due to the pixel density, I was able to competently play a large game of Age of Empires 2 without being hugely concerned about my screen. But even so, I much prefer the small form factor that can fit comfortably in a messenger bag (mine fit in my Switch bag with room to spare) with a strong enough iGPU to handle a decent external monitor for productivity apps. And you don't need to carry peripherals with you... just a HDMI cable and your AC adapter.
@tdata545
Жыл бұрын
I'm interested in it since it seriously has way better ports than most laptops with two usb cs and like 3 USB A ports and two independent SD card slots plus two expansion bays. Thing's kind of crazy. But I'd probably get this and the tiny GPD for an actual portable emulation experience.
@johnsducks9816
Жыл бұрын
Seems they come out with a new revision of the GPD Win Max every year, it is definitely one of the devices I am most interested in, but I feel it is too late in it's lifespan to get the most out of it, definitely very interested in the Win Max 3 when that comes probably within a year
@johnsducks9816
Жыл бұрын
One of the things I have realized since getting my steam deck is that it is a lot to carry with a big ol steam deck AND a 15 inch laptop. I am really interested in something like this simply because there are no other laptops on the market under 13 inches that have any power at all, every other 11 inch laptop only has a celeron or pentium. I really wish there were a lot more small laptops in general like this that just have a ryzen 3 or i3, even without the built in controller.
@garykwan360
Жыл бұрын
I had the frist gen, it serves as my netbook. lol
@jetvigamingtv496
Жыл бұрын
Neither ideal for gaming nor laptopping. You can't serve two masters at the same time, as they say. Thank you for doing this review
@davidfgranger
Жыл бұрын
"Let's see how those speakers sound" while I'm watching this on my Win Max 2, lol.
@RyanParreno
Жыл бұрын
It's like a giant Nintendo DS, and that really has so much appeal. I did decide to pass on this for a dedicated gaming portable and one of Samsung's Book3 laptops, but it's interesting to see what you have to say about it
@ssbm04
Жыл бұрын
I usually lay my win max 2 on my lap. It makes your hands less tired. Great review as always. I’ve been using the win max 1 and I think it’s the same design with a better keyboard
@obvious_giraffe8386
Жыл бұрын
On top of your lap?
@MrMagicAmmo
Жыл бұрын
Yea that's called a laptop lol
@KrashFries
Жыл бұрын
if this kind of form factor had mass market adaption and were widely available a few years down the line (like most business laptops), i’d totally get it if only for how cool it is. too bad that its kind of a niche application so thats not going to happen.
@overoula
Жыл бұрын
i have it from the first days....but it stays in the box... its an amazing mini laptop everything is perfect...BUT you cant use it as a handheld..atleast me...its very heavy..i played 2 cod multi games online then i had already pain in hands.....i prefer playing on deck or oxp mini....if was about to order now i would just get the win 4.....
@dan47483
Жыл бұрын
I've never held one so maybe I'm wrong, but this just looks horribly uncomfortable to me. "Why are you laying on the floor at Starbucks?" "Oh don't mind me, just playing my GPD Win Max in the only comfortable position"
@CHICKENmcNUGGIESMydude
Жыл бұрын
This is amazing for 2 player games bust it out with ur friends where ever ur at and bam play budaki tenkaishi 3 or battle front easy with 2 controllers a huge screen and stands up on its own best device for me
@AugustineKusiDuah-bk4fr
Жыл бұрын
True😊
@richardkenan2891
Жыл бұрын
I have the GPD Win 2. Much smaller, same basic concept, and it's been a lot of fun. I can't recommend it as a regular use laptop, but it does the job in a pinch, while having tons of gaming potential on the go. I think the Win Max 2 wouldn't suit my desires, but if I wanted something a bit more laptop and a bit less handheld gaming system, it would be great.
@RenshoYT
Жыл бұрын
I always thought that these were a bit weird. Im sure its a good device, but it feels like its in a no-mans land between handhelds and laptops. You get all of the compromises of a handheld (price, lack of dedicated GPU, smaller screen) without many of the benefits (comfort, design, etc). For the price of this, I don't understand how to justify it vs something like the Win 4, or on the other end, a similar priced laptop with better specs that will be more comfortable to use for computing (or spend less money for comparable specs). Again, I don't think its a bad device at all, I'm just not sure who this is for.
@born2biscuit
Жыл бұрын
if youre an actual pc gamer then the win max is the best design. the steam deck is limited by linux then limited even further by not having a keyboard.
@BonusCrook
Жыл бұрын
That on screen keyboard is pure pain
@Juicetyn
Жыл бұрын
I owned a Steam Deck, OneXPlayer Mini, Odin Lite, Retroid pocket 3 and sold all of them in favour of the GPD win max 2 and a ps vita.
@cyb
Жыл бұрын
This + Nreal Air = amazing. You can see the keyboard/gamepad just by peeping down.
@MrFlashpan
Жыл бұрын
I have this and it's not really a handheld, It's a good little laptop with loads of I/O The screen is great and a much better option if you find 7"Inch screens to small. It's a rest on your lap device, actually holding it as a handheld is a bit to cumbersome to be comfortable. It's a lovely little gaming laptop, it is small for a laptop, to me, that's what it is, not a true handheld, unless your hands and forearms are king kong size.
@monkeyrebellion117
Жыл бұрын
After having mine for a few months, it's been my go to for everything but high powered gaming and rendering. It's the best to travel with if you are a carry on only type of person. When at home, it's docked in my office with a full setup. I have a separate gaming PC for everything high powered but this is a really good all in one device. Not perfect, but really good.
@da_jay_duh9854
Жыл бұрын
Desperately needs a kickstand for playing games on a table
@jessragan6714
Жыл бұрын
We used to call those "netbooks!" I get the feeling that's not going to be available for netbook prices, though.
@grafvinestarry
Жыл бұрын
It's a gaming Laptophandheld. Hope I can buy it after finish my exam this spring
@DigitalNomadOnFIRE
11 ай бұрын
I travel globally 6 months a year, something this small but still powerful is epic. When I'm at home I'll plug into an eGPU for PCVR. One machine to rule them all...
@hollllllllz
Жыл бұрын
Strange device. And strange comments here praising it a bit too much 🤔
@FS-zt6tm
Жыл бұрын
you won't understand the praise until you've actually experienced using one. I was critical of the device's ergonomics but man it's actually more comfortable to use than it looks. The thing that sold me though was the eGPU capability. Not just thunderbolt 3 but oculink via the accessible 2230 nvme slot on the bottom of the device. They're making nvme to oculink adapters specifically for this device which allows for bandwidth speeds close to desktop gpu performance. It's the future of eGPU's imo.
@nerdloftgaming
Жыл бұрын
Likes for work & play, but it's not ideal for laptopping or gaming. This is definitely a hard pass, Russ.
@I4getTings
Жыл бұрын
Hi Russ! I LOVE mine for a vacations. I wanted a PC with some easy gaming. And for couch time. That sd-card slot and screen were awesome for backing up and tweaking photos. The only thing I really want is a quieter fan and a better native software solution for tweaking things.
@lumeronswift
Жыл бұрын
I don't mind the fan too much, and it does have a quiet mode... but yeah it can be a little noisier than others.
@I4getTings
Жыл бұрын
@Lumeron Swift hello there! You are right. And I usually leave it in quiet mode, but when I don't, it ramps up fast in games. If it isn't in quiet mode, then if my wife is on the other end of the couch it is too loud for her.
@robotninja530
Жыл бұрын
I really wanted to see how comfortable mouse and keyboard gaming on this would be with that tiny keyboard. The cramped WASD was the only thing holding me back from picking it up.
@DamnRightDamien
Жыл бұрын
Gaming on a chiclet keyboard? Lol
@RoundPi
Жыл бұрын
You can actually map the WASD keys to the dpad or analog stick.
@robotninja530
Жыл бұрын
@Round Pi the point was to play with mouse and keyboard.
@gerretoutdoors3710
Жыл бұрын
"Why do your friends call you the GPD?" Because like the Win Max 2, I'm short but thicc
@mvevitsis
Жыл бұрын
Those abs keycaps on the MacBook really look awful after like two weeks. Can't they do something about that?
@tomaslukacs
Жыл бұрын
As a win Max 2 user i do understand perfectly your ergonomic opinions. I had the same feeling when i firstly used. I wasn’t able to find the comfortable way of playing with it. But to be honest after a month of using it i couldn’t be more happy. I don’t know if i got used to the wheight or musle memorized somewhat to balance it. But now i can not go back to smaller screens. Everything looks amazing in it, also the 10:9 prportions feel perfect for the screen size and resolution. Of course it’s a personal opinion but having owned a pandora, win 1 i got tired of small texts and looking at games too small to really enjoy it’s art and sense of movement….
@lexx555
Жыл бұрын
I definitely agree with you. I own the Win 1, Win 2 and Win Max 1 and the screen size on this is perfect. It basically rectified all the issues of the Win Max 1. I travel a bit for work and this is great for me.
@pieceofschmidtgamer
Жыл бұрын
Basically the GPD Win Max 2 is basically a modern incarnation of the Netbook concept from the late 2000s and I just don't see the value of the Netbook concept in 2023. Back when the Netbook was first conceptualized laptops were big, bulky, heavy, and under powered things that were more than a little bit awkward to carry around. You could, but you wouldn't want to spontaneously whip one out in public. Netbooks tried to solve this, but it largely failed. Yes, they were smaller, less bulky, and lighter, but they were also even _more_ under powered and actually stripped away features many needed, like an optical drive (yes, there was a time when that was considered necessary in a laptop) and had poor build quality. By the time those issues were either fixed or rendered moot you could just take those solutions and bring them to laptops in general, thereby making laptops lighter AND more powerful and with a larger screen, thus making the Netbook concept unnecessary. And the problem with the Win Max 2 as a gaming handheld is that, but introducing the laptop aspects you're sacrificing the handheld gaming aspect and by introducing the handheld aspect you're comprising the laptop aspect (though to a lesser degree; it's still a usable laptop). In the end it's a compromised experience for both (there are laptops that weigh about as much as this, but have bigger displays and keyboards). Ultimately I think cramming both concepts into one device is a bad idea, just as much as the original Netbooks, and I think you should just chose if you want a handheld or a laptop.
@thecryingsoul
Жыл бұрын
So THIS is where the win 4's hall sensor sticks went!
@novelezra
7 ай бұрын
Im going through your old handheld PC videos to kind of get up to date on all the alts from steam deck (which I own and adore) and honestly this is the only one ive seen that I would get purely due to the absolute ridiculousness of it. Honestly, if someone said this was made in early 2000s id believe them. This screams 'early 2000s' text to me. Its like something LGR would review
@chasemartin4450
5 ай бұрын
Am I wrong that this is the only netbook-sized laptop on the market today with anything other than bottom-of-the-barrel specs? A device with this form factor is incredibly appealing to me, but given that gaming on it is an afterthought compared to other power-intensive uses like CAD modeling, I have serious doubts about the backwards trackpad placement being viable. Thoughts?
@tomoprime217
Жыл бұрын
@RetroGameCorps I heard you mention on a group chat that you were not a fan of recessed sticks on the GPD Win Mini. Were these different than the Win Max 2 in this video? I only ask as the Win Mini has the buttons and right Stick placement swapped as you would have wished was done in this video. So both analogs are symmetrical on the outter sides. So I wanted to know your honest opinion on its ergonomics. I hoping the Mini was a bigger improvement in that regard for the clamshell design. Isnt the case also a little less flat with some rubber on the sides to help holding it? Also can you say if the mini includes a blue wd nvme as opposed to the bad BWin drive I hear about? Sorry for all the fuss I wanted to own my 1st handheld and I have a laptop and desktop so getting a small windows portable with 32G ram to future proof seemed more ideal to me as I dont collect many purchases. I know you're a busy guy so I don't expect you to reply but I do love your channel with an honest perspective so keep up the good work. 👍
@OceanofStarsVR
Жыл бұрын
I love my GPD WM2. It's the perfect size, & best for on the go gaming, whether you're on a flight or on a train. Or just vhibing at home. You can do some quick edits while your at it. & best of all! You can play Skyrim VR at a stable 40fps on lo a settings but such s wonderful concept The 6800u is a pretty powerful chip, so I can't wait until the 7800u series come out
@ItWasAllPartOfMyPlan
Жыл бұрын
Maaaaaaaan this is my dream handheld,so wish I could afford it 😔
@usafballer79
Жыл бұрын
Max 2 has my vote because of that reclined position. Screen is more eye level, all the weight is resting largely on your chest - it looks insanely comfortable compared suspending any device in thin air for extended periods - one can't even hold your arms with nothing in your hand up for long without it being tiresome or tingling in the elbows and probably leading to carpal tunnel syndrome. Watch those repetitive motions folks, and keep your neck straight. The other feature that's nice is the fact it can sit on a flat surface with the screen up when you want that. Really Max 2 feels far more versatile than a true handheld, but I get it's large.
@frooglepete
Жыл бұрын
OMG RUSS!! WTF. I ordered one of these for my birthday in a few weeks. It arrived this morning. My Wife won't let me even see the box since it's a birthday present. THANK YOU for this video. I've devoured pretty much every other WM2 video out there, even the ones in complete foreign-eze
@thaphreak
Жыл бұрын
Oh look the game channel who said there wasn't a steamdeck killer is finally reviewing the devices that actually fall into that category.. smh. Just go watch ETA Prime, this gamer channel is like 8 months behind the curve.
@joeoreo2498
6 ай бұрын
I just bought a used one in great condition for 300 cash. Feeling really good about my purchase specially cause of the gorgeous screen. It also came with 32gig ram. 😉
@jasono9378
Жыл бұрын
As a pc gamer who doesnt use or need gamepads, i still wouldnt be able to find a laptop without gamepads that is remotely near the price of this that could run similar games or not need to lug around 3kg of laptop w/power brick around. I would love to be corrected if i am wrong.
@DigitalNomadOnFIRE
11 ай бұрын
A 10" laptop is magical, so much easier to use in so many more situations and so much easier to carry. This is my ideal device, though I'll rarely use the gaming controllers. Why take 2 devices into the shower, travelling light is also magical, plus you're saving the hassle of buying 2 devices.
@RetroGameCorps
11 ай бұрын
Great points, I agree that the built-in controls aren't the best but from the perspective of a powerful 10" laptop with a big battery, that makes sense. Chucking along a small controller will be more comfortable and much easier than a second device!
@matthewcherrington2634
Жыл бұрын
I wish it had a 35 watt gpu
@largegrape
5 ай бұрын
I think the issues with the fact that it isnt ideal as either a gamepad or a laptop is exactly why its placed where it is in the market, I bought mine for the purpose of having "max" literally the most use out of one system possible.
@justinpatterson5291
Жыл бұрын
I'm torn between this and the Win 4 Pro. I want the Vita looking one, because, Vita. But, I also want this one, because it has more useful ports.
@xalberrious
Жыл бұрын
My gpd win 1 bricked. Total waste of money. As much as I want a windows handheld/laptop combo I do not trust them anymore.
@ShaniAce
Жыл бұрын
18:48 Please elaborate, what's the problem about the comfort of the UI on the Win 4?
@stewwey4059
Жыл бұрын
Does it feel uncomfortable watching it feels very uncomfortable it's like holding a big laptop with a controller is it heavy???
@Nexus71c
Жыл бұрын
You know, I'm kind of considering selling my current laptop for something like this. Might be much more worth it. Not sure how much it'll be once I did so, but hopefully enough to be able to
@rush48192
Жыл бұрын
Yeah you can buy an asus with a mux switch for 1000 bucks, get about the same battery life and use a much better ps5 or xbox controller 🎮
@dopesheepify
Жыл бұрын
I was just considering asking if you were going to get this. I watched a really obnoxious LTT video for nothing!
@dablaccaiyan9152
Жыл бұрын
I'll never buy anything from GPD again personally......especially something with a henge
@piplup10203854
Жыл бұрын
I'm waiting for the next Steam Deck or the next Steam Deck equivalent.
@ThomasSerruques
Жыл бұрын
i’ve had the win max 2 for a couple of months and the best position for long gaming sessions is lying on a couch with the lower part resting on your chest.
@fermio100
Жыл бұрын
It didn't appeal to me so such I couldn't bother to watch the full video.
@CR055FIRE
Жыл бұрын
i'll buy one if it's matte black i ain't buyin these weird grey colors
@samueltsang9386
Жыл бұрын
Hey I got a question I just ordered a 128 gb anything i need to know? do i need to update the bios or anything? I heard the old bios had no tdp cap is this true?
@r3troid
Жыл бұрын
The idea looks decent but the buitin controller is not handy like other handhelds . I would prefer to get steam deck plus nexdock and make perfect 2 in 1 laptop and gaming handheld
@AdamPatrickMurray
Жыл бұрын
Thank you for doing this! Always curious about this form factor, and I don't think it's for me.
@nafriadn
Жыл бұрын
after 4 months, i come back with question what if the keyboard was a module and you can change it with a second screen
@NazimZaki
Жыл бұрын
Agree. This is not a good laptop to use or a good handheld game console. But to get both good experience, you need to buy both a laptop and also handheld game console. Not everyone has that tone of cash. So if you want to get your work done, and at the same time do some gaming on the go. There is nothing quite like this. So I bought one. And I love it. Plus, even with dedicated laptop, if I want to spend hours working, I prefer to use external monitor, keyboard and mouse anyway.
@fcuk_x
Жыл бұрын
This laptop is for high mobility ppl. IT, travel, repair man etc. that love to game on the go. (hint: 5G modem)
@iyeenv4681
Жыл бұрын
This is suitable for people who play light games and work heavy. Win4 is the opposite.
@CHETM02
Жыл бұрын
So, obviously, the steam deck has the better ergonomics, but what surprised me, was having a better time with emulation on WM2. Older titles, just don't have the button complexity like newer titles, so WM2 controls are more than adequate. They feel like a giant DS, given the rectangular shape. Additionally, being able to angle the screen feels generally better than hunching over and getting gameboy neck. And, since your already in windows, it's much easier to tweak emu settings on the WM2 compared to the SD where you have to enter desktop mode every time. Overall, I'd say less button demanding games like strategy or RPG are good for the WM2. If you're playing a fast paced shooter or action, probably the SD. Back in the day of dedicated portables, developers probably realized this, which explains the simplified controls of the PSP, DS, etc., not just the hardware limitations. Now that hardware can support the AAA titles, ergonomics that is also portable has become sort of a "new" problem. Now personally for me, the ergonomics of an SD are better than the WM2, but not by alot. I think the main issue is the stick configuration location. It makes hitting the L and R triggers really nice, but I struggle to hit the R bumper in conjunction with right thumb stick. With the WM2 since its so flat, it's almost the reverse issue where the bumpers are easier to hit than the triggers. If you can 3d print a grip for the WM2, that can also help. The most ergonomic controller for me is the PS, because it hasnt change much since the 90s. I also personally think, the wm2 is actually more portable than the SD, though objectively theyre in the same size category, where the WM2 is narrower, but taller. And man, it's hard to leave that 10" screen. So every time I look at my first world problem choice of marginally better controls, or much better and larger screen. If you ever loved the old netbook era but wished for a real PC, WM2 is the portable to get! Dream come true 20 yrs later.
@parabellum8506
Жыл бұрын
I love my Win Max 2. Just finished Persona 5 Royal, and now I'm having a great time with Octopath Traveler 2. The 10 inch screen is perfect for laying in bed at night burning through my RPG backlog. So far no QC issues.
@007NateNasty
Жыл бұрын
I'm really disappointed in GPD getting the hype and then discontinuing their $800 win 4. They said it's because they sold out but how do you sell out of 512 gb ssds? 1 TB for $1000 is a rip off when considering they had the $800 model just a month ago.
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