Came for the comparison but stayed for the dance moves.
@TheJoeGrosso
10 жыл бұрын
This is how a comparison on video SHOULD be done. All other youtuber video makers take note!!
@samfiadrangus9188
4 жыл бұрын
Agreed. 100%
@brandonlace
10 жыл бұрын
Finally someone who doesn't just dime the gain and turn the shape all the way up.
@jAMMAN798
10 жыл бұрын
brandonlace Thanks man! When I was 14 I probably would have cranked everything to 10... thank God I've outgrown that (I hope) :)
@jAMMAN798
10 жыл бұрын
***** Thanks! The OR15 at 100% gain is a bit overwhelming for most styles of music (picture a wall of in your face sound with few dynamics). But for some music styles this works perfectly. I tend to use amp gain on the conservative side when I play so I wouldn't be very good in controlling the massive amount of gain. I just hit the strings harder/tighter to get the level of distortion I need.
@mikeyo3230
3 жыл бұрын
If the OR 15 had a clean channel it would be the perfect head. It has absolutely amazing tone. Yes I owned one and I am upgrading to a TH30 for the clean channel which sets it apart.
@ghostware6057
8 жыл бұрын
This is exactly how people should do comparison and demo videos. Also, I know the OR15 is supposed to sound more vintage, but I'm using it in a fairly modern pop punk band and it just kicks ass. Great video!
@jAMMAN798
8 жыл бұрын
+Jacob Robinson Thanks Jacob!
@markochoa2727
8 жыл бұрын
Hey jake, I was looking into buying a or15. How loud would you say it is?
@kierenmoore3236
7 жыл бұрын
No. They should play the same thing through each amp ... This wasn't all that helpful (not useless, but not a great comparison)
@Drew.DrivesYT
7 жыл бұрын
I really like how the TH30 sounds with higher gain, but the OR15 sounds much more pleasing at low gain IMO. What a tough choice. Also, superb job on the demo, one of the best I've seen yet.
@nitegoat1369
8 жыл бұрын
The OR15, in this video, has a little more high-end clarity than the TH30.
@mixn5919
4 жыл бұрын
i would tend to agree with that statement, played both and found the OR15 to be more Voxy in the high end while the TH30 is more about having facemelting gain married to a typical EL84 clean sound. TH30 mid gain has more low mids i think, sounds more Sabbathy to my ears than the OR15 does
@dregen77
8 жыл бұрын
Liked the TH30 better, but both sound great.
@FuukanaTV
10 жыл бұрын
Overall I like OR15 more than TH30. But at high gain in round 3, winner gotta be TH30 for sure! OR15 for Classic Rock and TH30 for Hardrock and metal!
@JoelPwnsify
10 жыл бұрын
Great vid, need more stuff like this on KZitem. You can definitely hear there's more balls behind the TH30, though the tones really are similar. The OR15 is fantastic for the price, but for the extra $350 you get twice the wattage (while still having the ability to step it down), and the extra channel (which adds a huge amount of versatility to the amp.), and still having the effects loop.
@jAMMAN798
10 жыл бұрын
Shponglator Thank you, and thanks for watching & commenting.
@Ron4president09
2 жыл бұрын
The or15 has way more “flavor” from what i can hear
@hektic1017
2 жыл бұрын
Played them both. The or 15 stayed! Th30 is great for more modern metal. The or15 had so much more sole!
@KeeperOfCliffsTone
8 жыл бұрын
i am a bassist, but i play guitar too..but as a musician i love everything that has to do with music..and i enjoy your channel...all of the videos you make are perfect...you earned another subscriber..tasty licks with the right gear..well done
@jAMMAN798
8 жыл бұрын
+Marijan Barać Thanks man!
@TobysGuitarGearDemos
8 жыл бұрын
Great video, I'm interested in going from the Tiny Terror to the TH30 and this was really useful. Would love to see the differences between the orange stuff when the gains at max.
@TobysGuitarGearDemos
3 жыл бұрын
@Erik Borrowed one for a bit, absolutely loved it. The Dark Terror is very similar.
@williamolsen20
6 жыл бұрын
I have and OR15, and I cannot leave it alone, it is just a dream. I admit I wish it was a two channel amp sometimes, but boy it sounds great.
@JohnFichtner
9 жыл бұрын
Great video young man. Best comparison video I've ever listened too.
@RockCityWear
9 жыл бұрын
The OR15 is definitely on my radar. Thanks for showing the TONE of these amps. You hit the sweet spot with your gain settings (for my taste anyway).
@jAMMAN798
9 жыл бұрын
+Bill Ouellette Thanks brother!
@ferox965
3 жыл бұрын
I just got one. I love it.
@trupanext
8 жыл бұрын
the OR15 sounds better for classic rock, vintage tones but when it comes to modern rock the th30 beats the 15
@Walkerbjj
3 жыл бұрын
both sound good but I definitely preferred the th30 here. great video. thanks
@bradleyd417
9 жыл бұрын
This video totally sold me on the OR15! Great comparison!
@jAMMAN798
9 жыл бұрын
Bradley Davis Thanks man, it certainly is a great amp!
@epolat19
9 жыл бұрын
Bradley Davis Sorry man, my english is not that good. You mean or15 is better or TH is better? :D
@MrTrubore
9 жыл бұрын
Eren Polat OR15 Better
@epolat19
9 жыл бұрын
MrTrubore thx
@scottmclennan692
9 жыл бұрын
They are all really decent amps. I picked up a th 30 with a ppc 412 ad cab (classic 30s) and it sounds amazing. Im a 70s kind of tone freak and its all in there (somewhere) i love the gain overkill on the dirt channel , reminds me of cantrell tone from the 90s
@divanola
9 жыл бұрын
only thing i'd suggest is you should show the TH30 at 80% gain and drop tune at least to D....it's pretty sick
@rayh7046
6 жыл бұрын
divanola Did he ask for suggestions?
@rpavich
3 жыл бұрын
The best comparison I've ever seen. My pick is the OR15. I love it.
@goobiecaro8135
9 жыл бұрын
Very similar. Both are EL84 class A push pull powered. Very juicy overdrive. Well done.
@Nightingale1887
9 жыл бұрын
Goobie Caro Class AB is push-pull...
@goobiecaro8135
9 жыл бұрын
To add, I play in a 2 gtr rock band in a 70's vein. I run a gibson les paul into a stock or15 and an orange ppc112 w/a celestion greenback. My counterpart runs an Ibanez SZ into a marshall dsl15 and a carvin 2x12 ob cab stock. Both at or below 50% master volume against a hard hitting drummer and bassist. It holds up extremely well. Plus, no issues at gigs with sound guys. We don't have to turn down!
@GameLevelEditor
5 жыл бұрын
OR15 one of the best little amps to come out that can cover alot of early rock from the 70s to 80s and so forth. Best amp purchase I ever made since my early 70s marshalls and even has the tube fx loop They both sounded good in this vid but I'm partial to the OR series. I have a Brent Hinds Terror also which has the natural channel for really clean tones .
@swaffy101
9 жыл бұрын
The OR15 blew the TH30 away, great demo!
@vdbdg
10 жыл бұрын
Great demo. There's something really special with the OR15. For someone like me who needs just one channel it's perfect. Just bought one actually.
@jAMMAN798
10 жыл бұрын
vdbdg Yep, one of my favourite little amps that can be used in home or with a band and still produce punchy tone at all volumes.
@motorrebell
7 жыл бұрын
Great comparison - Would be very Interesting to hear how the Orange cr 60 combo sounds compared to these ! ;-)
@jameso87
10 жыл бұрын
The OR15 sounding a bit thicker in the lower mids and slightly more harmonically rich. The TH sounded a bit thin, which is what I found when I played one myself a while back. The OR is such a beast for it's size and price.
@divanola
9 жыл бұрын
i use a TH 30 together with a Marshall JTM 50 watt(bench-build).....un-beatable; one begins where the other leaves off.....the OR15 wasn't out yet when i got the TH30.....from this they sound fairly identical....besides i always use the TH30 on 15w anyway...sounds better to my ears....i even like the 7watts sometimes for real small rooms......for the price the 15 sounds like a great deal......tons of gain
@SLAMSTERDAMN
6 жыл бұрын
Aye, Well performed, young man! I can always hear the deeper tones of bigger transformers! That said, I prefer the ‘spikey’ treble of the OR15; lighter on my back, too. I don’t like a heavy load-in workout prior to a gig!
@maxidaxi2
6 жыл бұрын
I'm using the TH30 for about 5 months now. It's the best amp I've ever played. It has such a thick but dynamic sound. I can recommend this Amplifier to everyone who likes to play metal or hard rock. Forget about Marshall. Buy Orange!
@josephf9324
4 жыл бұрын
How’s the headroom on the clean channel? As in how far can it go before breaking up?
@tedtang1429
3 жыл бұрын
@@josephf9324 I 'd owned one,It breaks at about 12 o 'clock.
@francescobertelli8588
8 жыл бұрын
nice! and wow, they are identical.. i'll buy the 15 then!
@steamingheartbeat
8 жыл бұрын
Indeed, they sound identical.
@GAF563
10 жыл бұрын
More similar than I thougth! Perfect way of doing a "shootout" video as always, borderline OCD haha. Great playing and awesome Reverend, please do a video for it!
@jAMMAN798
10 жыл бұрын
Gabriel Flores Thanks man! Much respect to the Reverend, a very nice guitar.
@Marshall_EL34
7 жыл бұрын
No doubt ...best comparison vid period. Thanks for posting, this was just killer.
@jAMMAN798
7 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Much appreciated!
@lordoftheriffs79
6 жыл бұрын
TH30 is what I have and sounds fantastic to my ears, also being very versatile and 2 channel amp
@StoicGai
5 жыл бұрын
I liked the TH30 for all things gain but gotta admit I really like the brightness of the OR15 for running through the clean. TH30 wins overall just because a decent amount of distortion is going to be used in this day and age compared to clean tones.
@leiruagetro
8 жыл бұрын
A while back I watched your OR15 demo and I had to have one, even against my Rockerverb 50 MKIII the OR15 holds its own
@jAMMAN798
8 жыл бұрын
Great! Hope you're enjoying it.
@MauroPavanelli
9 жыл бұрын
This is the best OR15 review ever! Congrats!
@jAMMAN798
9 жыл бұрын
Mauro Samuel Well thank you!
@kennethg0523
5 жыл бұрын
Great comparison but listening closely with good headphones, I don't think the mix is the same on both amps in your DAW. OR15 has more centered sound and the TH30 is just slightly quiter in the left side. This would alter my thoughts about the amps if I did not know this. Thanks for your work though I love your vids.
@LilOlFunnyBoy
10 жыл бұрын
Interesting test, well done. I'm listening on a decent audio interface and monitors and the difference is barely perceptible to me. Listening to Schools Out from around 0:15 to 0:25 the OR15 has a but more bite but nothing that anyone's gonna pick out in a mix. The differences available in mic placement, room, playing style etc. are far greater than the difference between these amps.
@jAMMAN798
10 жыл бұрын
LilOlFunnyBoy Thanks for watching & commenting. When playing the amps, the differences to my ears are that the OR15 is less tight and more in your face and the TH30 is tight, compressed but a bit less in your face in the mids. Both still sound great though, and do very well in a live setting.
@skattabrain
9 жыл бұрын
Great video guy! Awesome format. It would only be better by showing the full sweep of tone these amps deliver and where the OR15 kinds of falls short... High gain. Whichi think is the driving reason behind the thunder series... Psychedelic 70s rock tone meets stoner doom metal. :-)
@21whitman
9 жыл бұрын
The OR15 seems to be a teeny tiny bit punchier but really they essentially sound the same. Great vid! thx man
@silentadvisor
9 жыл бұрын
Good comparsion. But if you turn Shape a bit counterclockwise and decrease the gain on TH30 they both will sound the same! And next time pan guitars in center.
@rockylacoco
2 жыл бұрын
1St off, Grea video and awesome playing! The OR15 seems to have a little brighter sound that is desirable to my ears. I just pulled the trigger on the TH-30 tonight, I hope I like it lol.
@Cyril.P-guitare
8 жыл бұрын
Awesome video dude! I love both amps
@jAMMAN798
8 жыл бұрын
+Cyrpé Thanks brother!
@DLC-music
4 жыл бұрын
I like the OR 15 until the Gain gets cranked about half then I like the th30!🤔👌 Great job!
@ToddMcKernan
9 жыл бұрын
Definitely like the 15 more. Good for my wallet!
@sonnyseabury4051
5 жыл бұрын
New subscriber here from New Orleans, La. Love your videos. I've watched quite a few. Very informative and helpful. Like your playing too.
@lukather93
7 жыл бұрын
Your video cut work is very good to compare amps ! Thank you !!
@jAMMAN798
7 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@Gearrig1
10 жыл бұрын
Great video, I have the TH30 and for me it was the 2 channels that was the deciding factor.
@jAMMAN798
10 жыл бұрын
GearRig Thanks for watching & commenting! The clean channel on the TH30 has a great sparkle to it.
@bradcarroll3719
10 жыл бұрын
You are a naturally great demo man! Your good taste in music and great playing is something almost no other reviewer of guitar stuff combines as well as you. (In my opinion). I was going to get a tiny terror to be my first jump into Orange, but I think that OR 15 looks like it's pony does more tricks. Which do you favor? I don't need It to do everything, I have a deluxe reverb for cleans, and a Mesa lonestar for kind of all around, but Orange amps have a "special" sound that I want to play with. Thanx
@jAMMAN798
10 жыл бұрын
Brad Carroll Thanks for the comment, appreciate it. You can't go wrong with the OR15, it is a powerhouse. The 3 band eq on the OR15 allows for so many tonal variations.
@TheFilleneuve
9 жыл бұрын
awesome!! I Have the OR15 witch I like a lot. Thinking about the TH30 for gigging!
@skattabrain
9 жыл бұрын
I own a Th30, my brother bought the OR15. We a/b'd then the other night. For the size it packs a punch. If you really want to compete with a drummer and second guitarist you will need the th30. It's thicker, fuller no question. OR15 is already in transit back to the dealer and a new TH30 just got delivered to him. If you play mostly classic rock the OR15 is pretty cool. If you play more heavier music or if you like dedicated clean and dirty... Again there is no comparison... Get the TH30. I get rave reviews constantly from everyone that hears the TH30. After shows people will come and complement your tone. For 30 watts it puts you in the sweet spot perfectly. It's just as loud as you need to compete in a loud band and sounds like you spent $2500.
@VaughnFrederick
6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your input!
@nickobrien1710
3 жыл бұрын
Here because I was considering "upgrading" to the TH30.... I think the TH30's sound is more complex and compressed out the gate which makes it sit better in a mix, while the OR15 sounds more raw and natural. I just want both now.
@Schafudd
7 жыл бұрын
Great video comparison. Great video production, you killed it. Looking to get my first "proper" amp and I'm pretty much down to these 2 (with a slim possibility of the cr120). This really helped. I'm a stoner/doom guy so I guess the TH30 would be the first and last amp I'd need... Thank you sir, great job!
@jAMMAN798
7 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@DennisLHahn
10 жыл бұрын
Great playing! Thanks for the OR15 videos it's a sweet amp
@jAMMAN798
10 жыл бұрын
Dennis Hahn Thanks, it certainly is one of my fav amps.
@timothyjay2012
8 жыл бұрын
Sounds great! Hey man is the Th30 twice as loud as the Or15? Ive Always wondered about these EL84 Orange Amps.
@jAMMAN798
8 жыл бұрын
Don't freak out but the OR15 is louder than the TH30. However, the TH30 has a nice clean channel.
@timothyjay2012
8 жыл бұрын
Thanks man!! I just never use a clean channel. So the Or15 would be perfect for me!! \,,/
@benonguitar9314
8 жыл бұрын
do you know anythinf about the cr120? can it get tones like these 2?
@jAMMAN798
8 жыл бұрын
You can get similar tones, probably closer to the TH30.
@Rigz727
9 жыл бұрын
Great playing and review thank you. Can I ask your opinion of playing Blues with the OR15? I don't play exclusively blues hence the question and covering my options, all would you stick with something like a. blues Jr?
@jAMMAN798
9 жыл бұрын
Rigbybigdog Hi, you can use the OR15 for blues and it works very well. The Blues Jr, or any of the Fender Hot Rod series, all work well for blues and have the added benefit of reverb and the ability to have a clean tone and run an overdrive pedal of your choice up front. There is no reverb on the OR15 and it does not have a true clean channel. If I were a musician who mainly played blues at home and only had the choice of the OR15 or a Blues Junior, I'd go for the Blues Junior.
@SuperPimpek123
8 жыл бұрын
Great video, they sound really similar. Which one do you prefer; OR15 or TH30 dirty channel?
@jAMMAN798
8 жыл бұрын
My preference is the OR15. Has less options, but it handles the guitar volume knob nicely.
@SuperPimpek123
8 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Ordered OR15 yesterday!
@zentura88
9 жыл бұрын
The OR15 has the gritty that I like!
@chrisavants
7 жыл бұрын
Where did you get the backing tracks? Great demo
@jAMMAN798
7 жыл бұрын
Not sure. Sometimes I just create them if they are simple. These may have come from Guitar Backing Tracks.
@Rigz727
9 жыл бұрын
Thank you, I really appreciate your time. Time to hunt a Blues Junior down I think. I do have a Strat and also a Humbucking guitar in the form of a Chapman ML3RC. Cheers again.
@nunocarmona
8 жыл бұрын
Nice playing. And nice Reverend guitar, too.
@jAMMAN798
8 жыл бұрын
+Nuno Carmona Thank you!
@HeliBenj
8 жыл бұрын
awesome video and playing!
@jAMMAN798
8 жыл бұрын
+Benj Coltrane Thanks mate!
@MrKarim989
5 жыл бұрын
Or15 : for vintage 70.... Th30: for modern 80 ; 90... And this is mentionned in the manual of the product.
@gracewins5916
9 жыл бұрын
I picked up an OR15 recently, best purchase I have made in a long time. Orange got it right, it has become my go to amp.👍🏻
@jAMMAN798
9 жыл бұрын
+Mike Cantu I can honestly say that the first amp I always plug into is the OR15. Sounds great with pretty much any guitar.
@MrKjohnson123
8 жыл бұрын
+jAMMAN798 ,sure does!!
@Demolition6312
9 жыл бұрын
Not much of a difference but I thought I read both gain circuits were based on the Rockerverb. May be wrong. I'm leaning torwards the TH30 because of dual channels. I want a clean and crunch tone plus a booster crunch so two channels and pedals help. Being one chance isn't a bad thing for the OR15 (or Tiny Terror) if your a gain guy and never turn it off or use an EQ to boost volume like a second channel, but that's what keeps me away. Thanks for the comparison man really sounded great. Also found the TH to have more bass response at higher Gain. Other than that both sounded similar
@jAMMAN798
9 жыл бұрын
+devinjaybee Thanks! Both amps are great for practice or live. If you use distortion, overdrive or fuzz pedals, the TH30 is better due to the clean channel. I found the OR15 to be a bit more punchy and less fizzy than the TH30. Because of the punch the OR15 sounded louder which was interesting. But for versatility for different types of playing, the TH30 has all areas covered.
@Classix1969
8 жыл бұрын
the or15 has a much nicer top end.
@VasilPenkov1987
9 жыл бұрын
I can't hear the difference. I own the TH30 and I love it.
@WDeranged
10 жыл бұрын
Slightly off topic but I bought an OR15 after watching your Tubemeister 18 comparison, it's a lovely amp and the comparison was very accurate. I'm having a problem and I thought you'd be the best person to ask, does your OR15 have a small amount of fuzz and buzz even with all the knobs rolled right down? Mine does, it's not very loud but it's always there and only gets drowned out by "proper" amp noise at higher gain settings.
@jAMMAN798
10 жыл бұрын
WDeranged Mine is very quiet, unless I have the gain maxed out to the right & the volume turned way up. There should be no fuzz/buzz otherwise. Does your amp make this buzz/fuzz sound when no jack is plugged into the front? If so, then it could be a tube issue or power outlet issue.
@WDeranged
10 жыл бұрын
jAMMAN798 Yeah even with no jack connected, it did get worse when connecting a cable but Orange eventually (I sent it back twice) replaced the FX loop tube which at least stopped it getting worse, the general noise is still there though. I've tested it at work and the music shop with the same result, they don't have another OR15 for me to compare it with but a Tiny Terror and my TM18 are comparatively silent, just a hint of 50hz hum. I'm pretty sure I don't have superman's hearing but all my previous tube amps had a tiny bit of 50hz hum that you can hear even with nothing connected and everything rolled down, this OR15 has higher frequency fuzz that I can pick up from the other side of my (small) living room.
@jAMMAN798
10 жыл бұрын
WDeranged You most certainly have a defective unit. I tried mine with no jack plugged into the front and volume & gain on max, and there is zero sound coming out (there must be a kill switch built into the front jack). Then I plugged in the front jack, cranked everything to max which will cause a guitar to feedback, but turned guitar volume to zero. Only sound coming out of amp is white noise, and at an acceptable level. I'm amazed the techs who looked at your amp couldn't figure out the problem since it failed the above checks I performed.
@WDeranged
10 жыл бұрын
jAMMAN798 Thanks for checking, the noise really is not loud but sitting a couple of meters away from my 1x12 I can hear it. I've asked for a refund as I'm a bit burnt out for now but I'll definitely try another OR15 in a few weeks.
@throwvsme1532
9 жыл бұрын
Man I really enjoy and appreciate your approach on these comparisons, first off! Best demos for Orange I've seen tbh. I need to make a decision quickly so here's my question. I use Line 6 Delay, Boss PS-6/OD-3/DS-2, and Morley wah pedals for my sound which is very close to Tim Mahoney/311, and John Frusciante/RHCP. I'm really wanting Orange to upgrade from my Line 6 Spider 2/12 and a nice Fender 2/12 I'm borrowing. I go from clean, to punchy and sharp distortion , to spacey reverb a lot. Can I get a good reverb from Orange, or would I need another pedal. And any advice for a first time buyer of Orange tube amp would be greatly appreciated! Thanks again!
@GreyGod798
9 жыл бұрын
throw vs me You'll require a 2 channel Orange amp for what you wish to achieve. Also Orange amps are not big in the reverb department unless you go for a model that includes it... but that adds $$$ to the price. Best bang for the buck for what you wish to achieve is the TH30 or the Duel Terror. Unfortunately these amps do not have reverb but the do have punchy sparkling cleans and a nice tube distortion channel.
@jAMMAN798
9 жыл бұрын
throw vs me Thanks for the comments! If you go for an Orange amp, you'll probably have no need for your distortion/overdrive pedals when using the tube distortion. The reason for this is that the Orange amp are very responsive and would turn your overdrive or distortion tone into just more tube distortion & may sound fizzy. On the clean channel of an Orange amp you could certainly use your distortion/overdrive pedals and achieve the sound you like. The Delay and Wah pedals will work fine on dirty or clean channels. As another poster has already noted, the TH30 and Dual Terror are low cost Orange amps that will meet your needs. If you want reverb & have a few extra dollars, then you're into the two channel Dual Dark which is a nice 50 watt head (massively loud) or the Classic Rockerverb (another 50 watt killer).
@cfov
6 жыл бұрын
I couldn't decide and now I own both! LOL
@nicklehman650
10 жыл бұрын
good job on video, would've liked to hear Panama with the gain damn near maxed though, Eddie would want it that way! I have the TH30 and Iove it, and I'm used to playing my triple rec. I use it mostly for stoner/doom type metal. Nails Down songs very well.
@thedude8526
5 жыл бұрын
The OR15 is an amazing little amp. I've owned it for about 3 years now and with the help of some pedals I can get some really heavy tones out of it (sludge, death, thrash and stoner metal). It players vintage stuff like there is no tomorrow. I am however tempted to trade it in for a TH30 just because it has a designated clean and dirty channel. Great comparison!
@herschelwalker591
6 жыл бұрын
Playing Van Halen without the pinch harmonics is like playing Strapping Young Lad on an acoustic... But thankfully your video's sold me on a 6505MH and a TH30... FML and wallet.
@czechchap
6 жыл бұрын
It seems like getting the clean tone on the 15 requires running it very quietly - is that the case or is the clean tone usable in a gigging situation - thanks for the vid.
@8ulls3y3
10 жыл бұрын
Tone-wise OR-15 hands down gets the cake for me. For versatility and wattage maybe TH30 is a good choice, but the 15 is a full steamy dish of meat and potatoes.
@Rigz727
9 жыл бұрын
Thank you, I really appreciate that, so on that point, I do own a OR15, ( have a reverb pedal) but you are just a lot better and more expierienced player, so value your advice. would you say it would be a waste of money buying a Blues Junior also, or would there be value to having both if you could afford it😉?
@jAMMAN798
9 жыл бұрын
Rigbybigdog The OR15 and Blues Junior are different amps. If you want that Fender tone, which sounds amazing with a single coil Strat or Tele, then the Blues Junior or Hot Rod Deluxe will give that to you. The OR15 is, in my opinion, more an amp for humbucker pickups and playing rock or metal. For jazz, funk, blues, classic rock with a Strat or Tele, the Blues Junior would be better. It all depends on what guitars you have and what styles of music you wish to play. The good thing is that there are plenty of used Blues Juniors or Hot Rod Deluxe amps for very low prices. Many even have the upgraded speakers (Fender amps with upgraded speakers usually come in a tolex colour other than black). Best advice is to try one out and see if it meets your needs. I should also mention that Fender Blues and Hot Rod amps do not have very good usable gain/overdrive. They are much better being run clean with an Overdrive pedal out front.
@bUwUmer1260
4 жыл бұрын
I love the sound of the OR15, imo its gain is a little "thicker" then the TH30's. But like, the TH30 has a clean channel.
@stanesposito2664
6 жыл бұрын
OR from what I like to hear. Good job.
@evanhostetler2126
10 жыл бұрын
Prefer the TH30, but both sound great. I absolutely love the tone of Orange amplifiers, if only I could afford one.
@jprosentreter
9 жыл бұрын
I was offered BOTH of these amps for a Soldano Hot Rod 50 I have. I also have a Marshall DSL 100 which will cover the 100/50w range. Your thoughts?
@jAMMAN798
9 жыл бұрын
Jp Rosentreter Depends what the purpose of your guitar amps are. If you plan on playing small venues or studio recording then the smaller wattage amps are great for tone and portability. If you prefer the tone of the Marshall or Soldano then stay with those.... or work out a deal somehow where you have one of each (always nice to have an Orange amp in your back pocket as the tone fits so many styles of music).
@jprosentreter
9 жыл бұрын
I would still have the Marshall and gain the two Orange...decisions decisions haha!
@ianmforbes
9 жыл бұрын
I was surprised at how similar they were, and actually, I thought the OR15 sounded a bit nicer, just seemed a little more dynamic. I was surprised because the TH30 demo videos usually seem to focus on the metal tones you can get.
@irvanaditya2610
6 жыл бұрын
The sound is great. Anyway the song in the round 1 is familiar what is the title song?
@cocooreo100
10 жыл бұрын
With a decent set of speakers i say the or15 has more bite. The th30 has more bass and is a bit smoother.
@danielbell4007
8 жыл бұрын
Someone has probably already asked but... Is this done with purely amp distortion, or is there a boost/drive pedal in front?
@jAMMAN798
8 жыл бұрын
+Daniel Bell (DanjaBellza) No gain or overdrive or distortion or fuzz pedals were used. This is 100% what tube amp distortion sounds like.
@danielbell4007
8 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the speedy response!!! i'm thinking to get the OR-15 here pretty soon. I'm having some last minute hesitations before spending the money, looking at other options, but i'm pretty sure that the OR15 is the one for me. Have you tried it with pedals, other than the modulations used in the video? if so, how does it respond to drive pedals. I've heard/read mixed reviews on that end.
@jAMMAN798
8 жыл бұрын
Hmmm.... I've not really tried it with many gain/saturation pedals out front as it sounds so great just the way it is. I've used boost pedals with it and all is well. I've used a Fulltone OCD out front just to boost a lead tone and that was fine. I have not tried a distortion or fuzz. I would think that a distortion pedal would be OK as long as the distortion on the pedal was kept low. A fuzz pedal may be a whole different story because most fuzz pedals don't play well with amps unless they have a clean channel and you're using single coil pickups. I have another video coming up where I put the OR15 up against a PEAVEY 6506 MH from clean to metal. The OR15 is a very versatile amp, but it is an old school amp. In other words it was 100% designed for the guitarists who make use of their guitar's volume control.
@danielbell4007
8 жыл бұрын
+jAMMAN798 that makes sense. I play in a worship band a lot. I usually set my amp cleanish and then add color/gain with pedals. I'll have to take my pedal board in and mess with one with my actual stuff to see how they get alive prior to buying I guess. I'm using a Seymour Duncan 805, and ehx glove, and I have a wampler sovereign on order. Just hoping they'll play well together. I know the or15 doesn't have a ton of headroom, but the few times I've played it were magical. My wife was even saying how great it sounded. Oakish (meaning woody, I assume) was I think the exact term she used.
@jAMMAN798
8 жыл бұрын
Right, the OR15 does not have very much clean headroom. If you play with a Strat and single coils pickups, well then you may get a bit more headroom out of it. With Humbuckers, very little. Perhaps since you wish to use pedals (and pedals go well with clean channels) and also wish some clean headroom, the TH30 may be better suited.
@slashaholicanonymous
8 жыл бұрын
OR15 has a bit more bite in the upper mids (a la Marshall flavor). Adds to the perceived volume and the ability for the amp to cut through in a band setting. Though the amps are similar enough that a buyer's decision would likely be driven by price, amp features (1 vs 2 channel), shared EQ vs separate, etc. Both amps compare favorably against other amps in their respective price ranges.
@ojabog
7 жыл бұрын
Does lowering the power output switch change the tone at all? I believe the th30 also allows you to use two tubes vs 4, does that affect the tone as well?
@jAMMAN798
7 жыл бұрын
It would, but more so due to whatever speaker you're using. Not sure about the tubes... never tried it.
@MoveAlongRomeo
9 жыл бұрын
How pedal friendly is the TH30? Does the clean channel take drive pedals relatively well (ie to go from clean to crunch on clean and then higher-gain/lead on dirty channel)? And clearly the OR15 cleans up well with volume control, but how well does keeping the gain just at the breakup point then adding pedals work?
@jAMMAN798
9 жыл бұрын
***** If you run distortion, overdrive or fuzz pedals through the clean channel, then the amp is perfect for such pedals. If you run them through the Dirty Channel, then those pedals only act as a boost... you are just boosting the tube distortion. Also the amp has an effects loop designed for modulation pedals, such as Delay, Chorus, Phaser, Flanger, Reverb, etc. and it works really well.
@jAMMAN798
9 жыл бұрын
jAMMAN798 My response above was for the TH30 amp. For the OR15, there is no clean channel, so drive pedals only work as a boost for the existing tube distortion. As you noted, to obtain more clean tone you must also work the volume control on your guitar (especially if using humbuckers). As soon as you reduce a guitars volume, you also reduce the gain effect. So if you ran a drive pedal after your guitar, then to the amp and reduced your guitar volume, you'd also reduce the effect of the drive pedal... which would defeat the purpose of what you're trying to achieve.
@MrTartlet
10 жыл бұрын
Awesome vid as always! Very similar sounding amps (at least on the Tube). TH30 takes the cake but just by a small margin. So it is mostly about how much headroom you need and how loud you are willing to go. And dat is some sweet Reverend you've got there. I almost bought one myself. Are you planning on doing a demo of it?
@jAMMAN798
10 жыл бұрын
AnalRectum Hey brother. Yep, they certainly do have a similar tone. To my ears the OR15 has a more classic, untamed overall sound (it is a bit more full sounding). The TH30 is slightly more compressed/tight sounding with a touch of the fizzy Orange tone. I do love the Reverend guitar, very easy to play (nice neck), well put together with outstanding hardware (the pickups are out of this world)! Perhaps I'll do a demo one day.
@n97223
10 жыл бұрын
jAMMAN798 I agree the OR15 sounds a bit more classic to me and is my favorite of the two amps. Definitely going to get one before the end of the year! I actually enjoyed the clean sound on the OR15 a little better, sounded more full and well rounded. As always...thanks for posting! Going to be moving soon, after that I'll be back to posting some videos, tough to do with half my stuff packed up....lol! Bill
@jAMMAN798
10 жыл бұрын
***** You'll enjoy this amp (the OR15). It seems to have turned into my "go to" amp for trying out different guitars & speakers. Hope your move is a smooth one…. and of course, no equipment gets damaged… oh year, and also the fragile dinnerware china :)
@n97223
10 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Looking forward to getting my stuff set back up so i can use it the way i want to.
@sirfabein2191
10 жыл бұрын
For me, the moral of the story is... When I get an OR15 and if its not enough power (which I kinda doubt).. Buy a second for 30w total! Great demo by the way.. Have you played the CR120?
@mysticsailor9
9 жыл бұрын
Provided you dont want clean tones at any sort of volume thats a nice plan..
@sirfabein2191
9 жыл бұрын
It is... Being that I have a Fender combo that takes care of my cleans. I run stereo.
@muzikmon2267
6 жыл бұрын
Alright Captain drone I don't know your real name so I call you Captain drone... Awesome!!!!!
@jAMMAN798
6 жыл бұрын
muzikmon2267 Thanks! One day I'll get back to this channel. But for now the drone channel takes most of my time.
@nudsh
3 жыл бұрын
The TH30 had just a teency more roundness to it. Both sound great, but I would go the for the 30.
@ohidontknow1061
3 жыл бұрын
I've owned both and used both and agree that the TH30 is just a touch better. I wouldn't be disappointed if someone said plug into that and it was either one. The TH30 sounds quite different played though the 1x12 closed back and the 2x12 open back but, neither are poor. Have to say, works well with pedals as well regardless of using the FX loop or not.
@AndrewWhite-lx6df
9 жыл бұрын
What valves are you using in the TH30 and what speaker/cabinet? I ask because I use a TH30 through an Orange 1X12 loaded with a Vintage 30 and it sounds nothing like as good as that on those settings.
@jAMMAN798
9 жыл бұрын
Andrew White Everything is stock in both amps. Speaker is your basic Celestion Vintage 30. If you are using Humbuckers then you sound should be close to the 1st and 3rd tune played. If not, and you have the same speaker, then the problem could be your guitar pickups. The Humbuckers in the video are 57 Classics in the Gibson Les Paul and Railhammer pickups in the Reverend Kingbolt.
@AndrewWhite-lx6df
9 жыл бұрын
jAMMAN798 Just played around with it some more. Having the volume up at a minimum of 30% makes a big difference. I also think the V30 might not be fully broken in yet as it seems awfully shrill so I've now also hooked up a second cabinet loaded with a 15" Eminence Kappa and that gives it a much fuller sound. The tone is still a little dry for my taste but some new preamp valves should solve that.
@marcaustin
9 жыл бұрын
Andrew White My OR15 really came to life with a TC electronics reverb pedal. Even just a smidge of wet in the FX Loop took me from being quite disappointed to in love with the amp.
@jAMMAN798
9 жыл бұрын
Marc Austin Thanks, good to know. I was thinking of adding that pedal to my collection as I don't currently have a reverb pedal.
@mainlymusicman
9 жыл бұрын
i have it down to the ENGL gigmaster 30 or the TH30 for a small combo amp. which one is better?
@jAMMAN798
9 жыл бұрын
mainlymusicman I've never tried an ENGL so I could not give you a fair opinion. Perhaps someone else reading this can help you out. Cheers mate.
@scrollkeeper6636
4 жыл бұрын
TH30 has a shared EQ, not "No EQ". Great sounding demo, I enjoyed the sounds.
@awesometylerable
8 жыл бұрын
Your description says the TH30 has no EQ, but I clearly see "Treble" and "Bass" knobs right there. The middle is controlled by the "Shape" knob, that's the entire point of it.
@FlapSkate
8 жыл бұрын
The Treble and Bass knobs are only for the Clean channel. You can't use them on the dirty channel.
@DelScully
2 жыл бұрын
love my or15 but the effects loop doesn't work for me which sucks because I love the gain with some reverb and delay over it, and that's just not possible without it.. The effects loop adds way too much noise to the signal...
@ThePowersThatBeef
10 жыл бұрын
Why would there be a difference? One is just 2 or 3 db louder than the other. Each time you double the power, you only get 3 more db. That applies for 50w to 100w comparisons too.
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