Hi everyone! This video is a bit different than usual and I kind of overlooked the amount of work it took to get to this point. I’ve learned a lot and I think I’m ready to print the next version of that rim. If you have questions or suggestions about my findings, leave a comment!
@boherrmannsen8219
3 жыл бұрын
dont call it stupid shit, its the entertainment part of the video :-D
@zyklone19921992
3 жыл бұрын
@@renevile Stefan over at CNC Kitchen already answered that question: kzitem.info/news/bejne/2oB-yaN8kmaWpW0
@zyklone19921992
3 жыл бұрын
Great video, would have loved a bit more detail on the findings though. Nevertheless, I do like how you went into detail on the layer adhesion problem and illustrated it with lots of examples. Did you also vary the part cooling fan speed as one of your variables? This might have a big impact on the layer adhesion, if it's set too high (the lower, the better).
@properprinting
3 жыл бұрын
@@zyklone19921992 Thanks! I had to narrow it down a bit because this experiment was already getting out of hand. I always print ABS without a cooling fan
@gentiligiuliano7882
2 жыл бұрын
What about try "re-cooking" in salt the most promising samples? Stephan made a video on this (based on the video of another youtouber) and results looked quite promising. Also the rim is quite big but still should be possible to find a big enough oven to fit it in a box filled with thin salt.
@agepbiz
3 жыл бұрын
This is the perfect mix of science and entertainment!
@custardstuff5178
3 жыл бұрын
"Kartoffelsalat" The most important word in the German language
@ismaelyu5
3 жыл бұрын
yeah it means there are a bunch of germans, as they call us Kartoffel sometimes
@danieltabrizian
2 жыл бұрын
My man isnt even German, he speaks dutch. I understand that the bigger part of the world wont understand the difference however i think he should stay true and not represent himself as a german
@custardstuff5178
2 жыл бұрын
@@danieltabrizian Oh yeah, I know that, but I don't think it's as core to the cultural identity of the Dutch as it is to the Germans. If you aren't eating Wurst mit senf und kartoffelsalat are you even a German? :P
@samus_link.service
3 ай бұрын
@@danieltabrizian but the joke is that he speaks with Stefan from CNC Kitchen wo is german...
@3d4makers
3 жыл бұрын
Our favorite KZitem channel did it again. Really enjoy the mix of entertainment and educational content. Proud to be you sponsor!
@properprinting
3 жыл бұрын
Very glad you liked it! I've learned a lot and I'm confident that I'll be able to print the next version of that rim properly ;)
@andreaudio
3 жыл бұрын
Try the Cura with arachne engine. It’ll dynamically change the width of the lines in some areas in order to avoid those tiny gaps with tiny points of filling material. This will provide faster and stronger prints! I’m using and I’m liking it!
@properprinting
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the suggestion!
@DoRC
3 жыл бұрын
Color actually is a variable that you want to consider. Different color additives will cause the material to have different properties. Effect may be subtle but it is there
@electrosync
3 жыл бұрын
Great video! Love this new format. That outro! Plus, your studio is looking amazing!
@Chris-1974
3 жыл бұрын
It would be a good idea to do a DOE (Design of Experiments) where you can drastically reduce the needed samples and get a lot more info on the influence of settings and even interactions between settings. You can even tune the settings to get the maximum strength. Nice for next time?
@properprinting
3 жыл бұрын
Exactly! And that's what I ended up doing, otherwise I would have had 1296 samples ;) These 100 samples got me to this point from which I think is good enough for printing that rim.
@jellevandergraaf9303
3 жыл бұрын
@@properprinting There is also a software thats excel like where in you only have to put some extreme variables of your parameters. this would reduce the time of testing and would safe alot of filament. The software is called Minitab
@matthewweyand5684
3 жыл бұрын
You are awesome this channel is elite I dont understand how you haven't absolutely blown up yet!!
@vansien
3 жыл бұрын
I see your friend is wearing what looks to be a freestyle libre glucose sensor, big thumbs up for a fellow type one👍
@MrFixel112
3 жыл бұрын
A few suggestions: 1) Try to anneal the part. That way the Lines will melt together und increase your strength. 2) If the printing structure of the sample ist not ideal, design your own one. Even though they are standardized, it probably won't make a huge difference in the comparability if you tweak the design a bit. If i remember correctly, it even is an invalid result, if the sample doesn't fail near the middle. 3) thermoplastics have more strength if its colder. Maybe placing them in the freezer will make a difference.
@properprinting
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your suggestions! I'd like to take a look into annealing, but because I don't want to print the rim solid (and don't have an oven large enough) I'm not looking into that yet. I thought it would be interesting to use something standardized and I think I was able to find the best print settings with this printer with these samples. I think so too that the result would be invalid if it doesn't fail in the gage of the sample, but that would indicate a false sample. The problem of 3D printing is that chances are that the sample is false due to not being homogenous which is exactly the problem I encountered. I'm not going to place the rims into the freezer prior to driving, but it would make an interesting and funny plan C ;)
@backgammonbacon
3 жыл бұрын
Annealing just releases some of the stresses in the part which for ABS means the part shrinks, it doesn't melt the lines together as that requires you to heat the part so it melts which isn't annealing...its....melting.
@MrFixel112
3 жыл бұрын
@@backgammonbacon my bad. I mixed the phrases up. I had the "salt method" in mind. But that is indeed melting. Thanks!
@janetizzy6741
3 жыл бұрын
It watches as if you both had a lot of fun!
@properprinting
3 жыл бұрын
We definitely had!
@me3dnone107
3 жыл бұрын
I saw someone use that 3d printed newspaper roll fly swatter!
@colinfielder6695
3 жыл бұрын
Love your video not only great information but also comic relief. Has anyone tried printing them on their side?
@properprinting
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Printing them in that orientation didn't occur to me and might be the perfect orientation for this specific sample! I'm done printing samples for now though xD
@rachellejanssen2655
3 жыл бұрын
4:08 I expected Daniel to walk out and back in again (empty handed that is). That dude is ripped!
@danielrisueno8003
3 жыл бұрын
"Yeah, this is a very good channel about engineering and 3D printing cool stuff" Also "there are people jumping off a bridge" Now it's official: his channel has EVERYTHING 😂
@calinserbanspanu
3 жыл бұрын
For printing a car rim, any orientation you can get out a cartesian printer will be weak. Being a round object, maybe printing around a rotating tube will do the trick. Orienting the weave of each layer at 45 degree to the tube axis might get you a homogenous print with no problems regarding adhesion. A rotary axis will be a nice addition to your sheet metal ungraded CR 10. Or you might go deeper in the rabbit hole and try some non-planar 3d printing with more the 3 degrees of freedom.
@ChazBword
3 жыл бұрын
Wow. This looks like so much data. How amazing for you guys to put this all together for the community. This was an amazing video. Thank you.
@unifytechuk
Жыл бұрын
Brought back bad memories of having a stammer in school and answering questions in front of the whole class - enjoyed the video though!
@henrymach
3 жыл бұрын
This is way more fun than the CNC Kitchen guy's tests. The bridge thing I mean
@AngeEinstein
3 жыл бұрын
As I understand, the measured Unit is force x area. But did you check if all 3D printed samples had the exact same cross section area? Maybe some material was shifted to the ends r somewhere else.
@richardvanliessum4346
3 жыл бұрын
CNC kitchen flex, lekkerrrr 💪🏼
@martinTintin476
2 жыл бұрын
hi. I did tests for a filament company. I see the problem from the video. You should print other patterns, such as stepped or radius, because you are not interested in the design of the test pattern, but in its smallest area from which the tensile stress is derived. The samples you used in the video I used and always cracked in different places. At the pla on 30mpa layers, in the filament axis 60mpa. 3d prints should be sized at 30mpa so that it doesn't split like wood.
@ismaelyu5
3 жыл бұрын
actually the pulled apart printing lines are good if you have critical components, so you have a optical safety indicator that your part is overloaded.
@garagemonkeysan
3 жыл бұрын
Whoa ton of work went into this film. Cue boat. Cue bicycle bar. And action! Awesome entertainment. Fascinating results. Mahalo for sharing! : )
@MakerViking
3 жыл бұрын
Great video as always Jon! Keep up the good work. :)
@thaejsooriya3313
3 жыл бұрын
What about the compressive forces and torsional forces of ABS that the rim will experience?? Great video! Was a lot of fun to watch! You could try annealing the parts afterwards, Stefan has a salt video
@properprinting
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! A rim will experience a lot of different forces, but I think that with the testing I've done I managed to optimize the 3D printing process itself ;) Annealing is definitely something I'd like to take a look into in the future
@OlivierEble
3 жыл бұрын
Came here for this comment.
@PascalVos
3 жыл бұрын
welcome back John! Funny as ever
@properprinting
3 жыл бұрын
Happy to be back! :D
@asocialconsciousness8535
3 жыл бұрын
Printing a car rim is an absolutely crazy idea! but I LOVE IT! there is no way you will ever get this to work lol... However i love your commitment to it!!! and i will watch every single video you make because of it ;) I mean you will most efficiently fail miserably... but its super fun to watch and we will all learn as we follow you on your journey! Don't get me wrong i would love to see this work... but you know your crazy right!?
@marijuanas
2 жыл бұрын
Great video, well made and entertaining!
@photocromax
3 жыл бұрын
@proper printing I'm so happy you liked so much my suggestion! Thanks a lot for your appreciation and thanks for the prize! Should I directly contact you on the merch site?
@properprinting
3 жыл бұрын
I just have sent you an email :) Congratulations!
@barabolak
2 жыл бұрын
Very nice video! Surprised it didn't get more views and likes. The classroom part was funny!
@MoppelMat
3 жыл бұрын
dat beer bike at the end! hilarious!
@ConstantijnC
3 жыл бұрын
Thoroughly enjoyed this one ☝️
@SYN_dr_0M3
3 жыл бұрын
colour was actually correct. Because of layer adhesion and pigments influence it greatly.
@iandrake4683
3 жыл бұрын
Perhaps one perimeter and have all your infill running the length of the print? That would require a little coordination between your print orientation and your infill angle, but would probably solve your issue.
@properprinting
3 жыл бұрын
That's an interesting approach which I haven't thought about, thanks for the suggestion! That wouldn't help though with the rim ;)
@iandrake4683
3 жыл бұрын
@@properprinting it might, if you put the wheel on... in the right orientation and then don't drive!
@Zachary3DPrints
3 жыл бұрын
OMG, always fun to watch this!
@fearlyenrage
Жыл бұрын
Intention to inform: I dont quit get it why you dint choose another form so the drop at the bottom wont get printet at all. You could print next time maybe some straight squares and then fixate those between you tear-apart-o-meter. We design alot so that the layers or filament lines are laid so that they can carry alot of weight. Shear force i.expl. on layers is killer so we print things laying down flat, so force is applied perpendicular to the weakest weld. Try a sample that looks like an big "I" and use a 0.1mm layerheight about 5m thick that should rise the force needed to destroy the sample.
@powersv2
3 жыл бұрын
Really good editing this time
@alexdubois6585
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video and the dedication you put in your work.
@timkn6147
3 жыл бұрын
Hello I was definitely curious if your tire rim would hold. Potential variables for your consideration. 1. What’s the lowest temperature your parts can handle . Freezing snow or local temperatures ? 2. Heat transfer from friction from the tire, and ambient heat on your hottest summer day combined. Will this cause warping over time.?
@properprinting
3 жыл бұрын
Hi I hope I'll ever get to the point where these kind of variables are becoming a problem :)
@timkn6147
3 жыл бұрын
You definitely will.
@fourknotsnowhere
3 жыл бұрын
i just got 3 cr30s, wondering what kind of cool mods you could come up with for this machine. cant wait for the new rim, and im excited to see more videos from you. good luck.
@MrKnoppersesser
3 жыл бұрын
Your videos ar getting better and better.
@mrnlce7939
3 жыл бұрын
You might want to try salt annealing to help strengthen up the layer lines. Only problem is shrinkage. Great video. keep it lit.
@KevinHillofDOOM
3 жыл бұрын
I knew he was going to say GhostBusters, and I STILL laughed.
@Arnipll
3 жыл бұрын
33k subs and coop with Ed Sheeran, nice
@alexhri
3 жыл бұрын
The Dutch are like... The slavs of western Europe... Yes, I see the irony in my comment...
@obe22099
3 жыл бұрын
1:25 in the US there is a growing hobby of insanely high powered magnets being used for "magnetic fishing" probability of "catching" a sawed off shotgun with the serial number magically grinded off and used on a homicide is 99%.
@richardvanliessum4346
3 жыл бұрын
Same overseas, with ww2 explosives being pulled up at more then one occasion.
@ameliabuns4058
3 жыл бұрын
Wish you compared enclosure temperatures too
@properprinting
3 жыл бұрын
Due to the small size of the samples I don't think that this would have had a significant impact. I had to narrow things down because it was already getting out of hand, so much work😅
@jellevandergraaf9303
3 жыл бұрын
Top video! ik heb wat ervaring met de Shimadzu AGS-X 10 kN trekbank. houd rekening mee dat de dikte en breedte van je trekstaven ook effect kunnen hebben als parameter bij de treksterkte. Ik zag in een snelle oog opslag van je excel sheet namelijk deze waardes niet voorbij komen. mogelijk is het ook handig om te kijken naar de slagsterkte van je materialen, dit kan gedaan worden doormiddel van de charpy-impact-test. Deze waardes zijn mogelijk handig aangezien je velgen bij een impact kracht mogelijk eerder doorbreken dan bij een trekkracht. Ik ben geen expert op dit gebied maar als je vragen heb kan ik kijken of ik ze kan beantwoorden, of je mogelijk in contact leggen met experts. Succes met je verdere onderzoeken en nogmaals top video
@properprinting
3 жыл бұрын
Bedankt voor je input man! Het was inderdaad beter geweest als ik de afmetingen ook nog had genomen. Ik ben er nu vanuit gegaan dat ik met deze bevindingen het printproces voor het grootste deel heb weten te optimaliseren. Ik heb een scope moeten stellen, want het werd eigenlijk al te veel xD
@andyhelipilot3528
3 жыл бұрын
Brilliant video. Really enjoyed the classroom humuor👍🤘😂
@emmanuelm361
3 жыл бұрын
Think about a new "construct pattern" using low temperature 😉
@jasperwille2576
3 жыл бұрын
Great video!
@TheMusicRebellion
3 жыл бұрын
Great vid! Especially that "german conversation"...xD
3 жыл бұрын
if i understand you correctly, the problem is where the slicer creates small holes where the width is changing and the width of extrusion doesn't fit a line in the gap anymore anymore/yet. So to add a variable to the test set, does the Arachne engine of cura make a difference when testing with the same parameters?
@williamhooper5221
3 жыл бұрын
what about recently dryed and not dryed
@p07gbar
3 жыл бұрын
Feels like if your wheels broke just taking static load at 25mpa and you're acheiving 35, even if you get even better strength that isnt enough spare to take dynamic loads, especially with any kind of safety facyor
@properprinting
3 жыл бұрын
Correct, and therefore I changed the design as well, drastically
@p07gbar
3 жыл бұрын
@@properprinting good to hear!
@MrKnoppersesser
3 жыл бұрын
You could try a salt remelted sample, to see if the strength comes close to the specs if the Material is remelted homogeneous, or if the Material degrades during printing (and remelting in this case) Also have you varied the chamber temperature?
@GUCR44
3 жыл бұрын
I wasn't sure if I liked this video... Until you said that pulp fiction is the best movie. Hahahah great video man! You guys are awesome
@properprinting
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! That's probably the truest thing I've said in my videos xD
@Marvin-sl4fu
2 жыл бұрын
5:40 You guys must've laughed your asses of the moment you saw what you created there 😄
@properprinting
2 жыл бұрын
We definitely did🤣 The reason why Daniël managed to stutter with such a red face and tears in in eyes was because we were constantly laughing haha. I missed several times with that piece of paper while he was trying to stutter🤣
@Marvin-sl4fu
2 жыл бұрын
@@properprintinghahaha that's awesome 😂 So happy you guys are having so much fun, loved this scene!
@SJ-co6nk
2 жыл бұрын
I sort of want cnc kitchen on speed dial...
@stefanguiton
3 жыл бұрын
Great tests. Have you thought about testing two different materials using your nozzle switcher? Such as tpu/abs or petg/abs.
@properprinting
3 жыл бұрын
I haven't thought of that, mixing materials with each layer sounds very interesting, thanks for the suggestion!
@830jps
3 жыл бұрын
14:14 would it have been stronger if you increased the walls to max. With no need for infill?
@zhick666
3 жыл бұрын
My tech fun tested this and found it barely made any difference. Iirc the parts using infill where overall marginally faster, but also slightly heavier.
@Pootydanglesore
3 жыл бұрын
Could you enable ironing? I would imagine it could solve half the issues with pathing and adhesion, and if you purposefully cause elephants foot at the bottom it will be dimensionally imperfect but give similar effect as ironing. I would be interested to see results for that.
@jordistoop3682
3 жыл бұрын
Misschien stom idee, weet niet of het wat toevoegt aan de kracht van de samples; wat als je ironing aanzet? Hij zal dan alle gaatjes alsnog vullen met filament, misschien zelfs nog fuseren? Ik ben geen expert maar dacht eraan
@almostanengineer
3 жыл бұрын
How have you considered that your clamping system clamps the test sample after the neck of the sample, could this have affected the test method, given this necked section of the sample is designed to be the weak point?
@properprinting
3 жыл бұрын
The sample should snap at the narrow section (the gage of 115mm in my case) and the better samples did. The weak points were often suboptimal due to the samples not being homogenous. All fails I got weren't affected by the clamping method as far as I can see, but this wasn't ideal. Unfortunately I don't have "official" clamps since the pull tester is used for testing crimp contacts.
@arthurenright4146
3 жыл бұрын
Merch acquired!
@properprinting
3 жыл бұрын
Awesome, thanks! :D
@arthurenright4146
3 жыл бұрын
@@properprinting Love your content and can't wait to see the next iteration on the ABS wheels. Your custom CR-10 S5 is over the top in every way, just amazing!
@backgammonbacon
3 жыл бұрын
Watched the whole video and still don't know what settings you actually ended up using? 240, nozzle diameter for extrusion width, extrusion multiplier simultaneously increased and decreased.. Was that a pedal powered bar?
@WillemBoddendijk
3 жыл бұрын
Haha, yes it was. We call that a "Bierfiets" or Beer cycle in the Netherlands😉
@properprinting
3 жыл бұрын
Good point, I indeed didn't mention that. I'm going to print at 280 degrees, with an extrusion width at 1.2mm (100%) and 100% to 105% flow rate depending how it's going to look on a bigger part. And as Willem already answered, yes ;)
2 жыл бұрын
Hi there, if you can't do the rim of the wheel try to do a airless tire out of TPU, if you don't know what I talking about, search for michelin airless tire 😉
@properprinting
2 жыл бұрын
I do have some fun ideas of how to approach this ;) Thanks for your suggestion!
2 жыл бұрын
@@properprinting eager to see whats comming :)
@DaMobzz
3 жыл бұрын
I'm wondering if you would iron every layer(prusa slicer option) and annealed the part in an oven if it would get way stronger
@Insane98
3 жыл бұрын
Im not sure if this would work; but have you tried putting the nozzle closer to the bed, and let the printer flow a bit more, so that the gaps will fill?
@properprinting
3 жыл бұрын
The bottom was dense, but as the print goes higher, the gaps will form. If I increase the flow even more, I get over extruded parts elsewhere. Printing with a nozzle this size is not easy and I wouldn't get these problems with the rim since there are no tight corners in that design.
@Insane98
3 жыл бұрын
@@properprinting Truee, im still having positive hope in project rim job!
@BLBlackDragon
3 жыл бұрын
You might compensate for the holes on the interior by over-extruding the non-perimeter sections by 5-15%?
@properprinting
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your suggestion! I had some samples which I over-extruded at indeed those parts, but there were blobs forming and still couldn't compensate enough. I think that these samples are hard to print with the nozzle I used. Chances are that a smaller nozzle will be more successful, but the layer adhesion may decrease. I had to stop adding variables, because it became too much and I think I reached my goal ;)
@hanslourens2629
3 жыл бұрын
Hi, I'm very new to 3D printing, and I do not know if this has been tried before, but would it be possible to solve the problem of holes in the layers by ironing after each layer printed?
@properprinting
3 жыл бұрын
Hi chances are that it would, but I haven't tried that. Good point! Because this experiment was already getting too large I stopped adding more variables.
@MarkoFQ
3 жыл бұрын
How much influence is with chamber temperature ?
@ultimatdestroier427
3 жыл бұрын
I am dying over that german XD
@OnreinKalfje
3 жыл бұрын
LOL I won! You have such bad taste. Can't wait untill you make the trailer
@obe22099
3 жыл бұрын
Hi! The thumbnail is at least 3 thumbs up.
@samroesch
3 жыл бұрын
I don’t think ASTM samples are a good design for testing 3d printing, it amplifies the quirks of the printing process, which would have a smaller impact on a larger print, which would be closer to most real world applications. A circular dogbone would be good option maybe. Might need a more beastly testing machine though.
@jmtissera
3 жыл бұрын
Great work guys! I am curious, why you are still using Simplify3D? But you showed preview printing images from Ideamaker. Do you think that the outcomes will be the same no matter the slicer if the settings are the same?
@properprinting
3 жыл бұрын
I managed to get the strongest parts with IdeaMaker so yea, I'm definitely switching. It's nice to see that different slicers have different outcomes.
@jmtissera
3 жыл бұрын
@@properprinting I am using Cura Arachne beta version and I am quite impressed for the quality of the results and the speed. PrusaSlicer is also very good option to tweak settings like you are doing. Can't wait to see that rim!
@BeefIngot
3 жыл бұрын
why ABS in particular?
@properprinting
3 жыл бұрын
Because this is affordable enough to experiment with for printing the rim for the car, yet it's difficult enough to print so I can say more about the performance of the printer I want to print those rims with.
@Hottentotta
3 жыл бұрын
Awesome Entertainment! Love it!
@othmanalghafri9821
3 жыл бұрын
Getting wet for the sake of science! Thanks, awesome as always
@janetizzy6741
3 жыл бұрын
Jumping off a bridge into a river on a hot summer day must have been pure torture.
@ameliabuns4058
3 жыл бұрын
Damn 5kg? At this point you should get a filament extruder or a pellet extruder. Would cut the filament cost by a third
@properprinting
3 жыл бұрын
3D4Makers is my pellet extruder ;)
@MowBTC
Жыл бұрын
The phone call xD LMAO
@Sttreg
3 жыл бұрын
HE IS BAAAAAAACK
@arminth
3 жыл бұрын
I just died! Kartoffelsalat! Lol!
@KnooBill
3 жыл бұрын
how can I make my freecad look as nice as yours?
@properprinting
3 жыл бұрын
I've used this github.com/dulouie/FreeCAD-modern-config and manually modified some colors in the FreeCAD settings
@Drew_pew_pew_pew
3 жыл бұрын
Or you can use the Linkstage3 branch of RealThunder which ads a lot of goodies and follow this tutorial: kzitem.info/news/bejne/l5-LlptjkWeLZJw
@offearth3d
3 жыл бұрын
Pulp Fiction is the greatest film made!
@user-xb5zu6zu7j
3 жыл бұрын
Awesome video, had a good laugh too
@ameliabuns4058
3 жыл бұрын
Even if your abs was 17$ a kg it'd cost 85$ damn
@dmanero
3 жыл бұрын
would printing with carbon fibre infused plastic not be stronger?
@properprinting
3 жыл бұрын
Yes, I have some stronger materials but I had to draw a line due to the amount of variables
@andonguyen7970
3 жыл бұрын
19:22 what in the world is that and where can I rent one??
@properprinting
3 жыл бұрын
That's a bierfiets (beer bike) and I never rented one. I have no idea if this is a common thing outside of the Netherlands and Germany
@roscoe3dp470
3 жыл бұрын
Love it !
@santiagoblandon3022
2 жыл бұрын
How come I hadn't seen this video before! It is pure gold! f*ck the youtube algorithm D:
@TheSpeedymetrakit
3 жыл бұрын
Als je omgebouwde Cr10 500 graden kan behalen.. Waarom probeer je dan geen luvocom achtige materialen voor de velg
@properprinting
3 жыл бұрын
Ik ben al bezig met 3D4Makers om naar betere materialen te kijken, maar voor het testen wil ik eerst ABS proberen vanwege de prijs. De Nylon met koolstof is al een aanzienlijk stuk sterker bijvoorbeeld. Toch twijfel ik nog of ik zoiets groots als een velg kan printen uit dat materiaal, de kamer haalt ongeveer 70, misschien 80 graden.
@TheSpeedymetrakit
3 жыл бұрын
@@properprinting ken je formfutura?
@properprinting
3 жыл бұрын
@@TheSpeedymetrakit Ik kende ze wel, maar wist niet dat ze nu ook Luvocom hebben. De Nylon met CF van 3D4Makers is zo te zien wat goedkoper
@TheSpeedymetrakit
3 жыл бұрын
@@properprinting toevallig werk ik daar, en we hebben sinds kort meerdere soorten luvocom. Mede daarom vroeg ik aan je, waarom je niet met luvocom zou gaan testen. Maar jou vorige antwoord beantwoord al een hoop. Ik zie je volgende filmpje hopelijk snel online voorbij komen.
@properprinting
3 жыл бұрын
@@TheSpeedymetrakit leuk dat je daar werkt! Het Luvocom is wel even wat anders. Ik heb alleen ervaring met de Nylon en Nylon met CF, maar dit is niet te vergelijken met de "standaard" huis, tuin en keuken Nylon.
@TheAndyroo770
3 жыл бұрын
How does carbon fibre abs compare to normal abs?
@properprinting
3 жыл бұрын
Often carbon fibers make the parts stiffer and easier to print due to less warping, but not significantly stronger. 3D4Makers has ABS with kevlar which is a bit weaker, but is easier to print. Some materials are getting stronger with carbon fibers, like their Luvocom Nylon (neutral is 85 MPa and with carbon fibers is 130 MPa). I don't know why some materials are getting stronger and others not, maybe due to how well the plastic sticks to the fibers. Interesting topic for sure!
@TheAndyroo770
3 жыл бұрын
@@properprinting I use Sunlu brand Carbon fiber PLA mostly, it is better than all the other brands of Carbon PLA but I've never used ABS. I'd like to see some vapour smoothed carbon fiber ABS!
@properprinting
3 жыл бұрын
@@TheAndyroo770 That sounds awesome! I'm curious now how that'd look xD Now I want to try that with the kevlar filled ABS!
@TheAndyroo770
3 жыл бұрын
@@properprinting If you try it, please share the result
@properprinting
3 жыл бұрын
@@TheAndyroo770 definitely!
@Darool
3 жыл бұрын
Lol hier had ik graag bij geweest :P humor :)
@barabolak
2 жыл бұрын
I think you guys weren't honest with us about how much you weigh:D
@dallibabs
3 жыл бұрын
Hey Jon. I take it you have seen kzitem.info/news/bejne/x5iJt6qAg5yoZYY he's always doing similar tests. Check it out and other vids but I don't doubt you haven't already looked. Edit. I just heard you mention CNC kitchen at the end. You 2 should get your heads together and do a dual vid. He is very anal and analytical (in a good way) but 2 heads are allways better than one. Love the videos as ever "heel goed" John.
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