The problem: In most urban Black communities an educated successful black person is seen, at best, as an exception rather than an example. At worst he/she is considered a sell out or acting white.
@dougyankunas3104
5 жыл бұрын
I’m on the west side of Chicago. Lake and N. western to be more specific. I can tell you that between the city being run by Democrats for 80 years ( yes literally run with a Democrat mayor for almost a century). The city also has had a super majority of Democrats in the local government for almost as long. Democrats are not the only problem. Gangster rap destroys black communities also. Money, hoes , bling, etc is held up as gospel. I tell all these young bucks education is the key. Being 62 years old I’ve seen a lot of bs here in Chicago
@c20995
5 жыл бұрын
@@dougyankunas3104 Yes. Being from the west side also. Central and Augustus. I've seen all that you name destroy the Austin Community and keep the minds of the people from taking any form of responsibility.
@LividImp
5 жыл бұрын
You nailed it. My best friend in high school ended up getting a full ride scholarship to a fancy well known private college, and he took shit from his own community for being "too white". Even some in his own family were snarky about it.
@c20995
5 жыл бұрын
@@LividImp: When I graduated junior college with an AGS and an AAS no one in my family showed up. When I got my BA only my dad came. When my cousin paroled out of prison, the family threw a party in Garfield park and dozens went. Hell, some of them went to court when he was sentenced and cried for a gang banging armed robber. The media and activist talk about racism and white supremacist. A KKK guy ain't never chased me home from school or stole my car or mugged me on the green line.
@LividImp
5 жыл бұрын
@@c20995 That's fucked up. That's not the first time I've heard that either. At least my friend's mom and grandma were there for him. Shit's slowly changing though. I don't see that same rejection of education or "whiteness" that I used to see, or at least it's not as bad as it was. Now you see black folk on skateboards and riding choppers, listening to heavy metal and country. That shit was unheard of in the 80s and 90s. "A KKK guy ain't never chased me home from school or stole my car or mugged me on the green line." Same here. Except in my case it was a Latino gang in my area that would torment me. White bangers were so rare where I grew up I never even gave them a thought. The worst assholes are always whoever is the big dog in the area, it doesn't matter the race. But now with all these mosque and synagogue shootings, I've been teaching my boys to watch out for peckerwoods too. Humans are just pricks, and race has a lot less to do with it than certain people claim.
@yosemitesam4549
5 жыл бұрын
I couldn't agree more. The current version of anti-racism in my opinion is highly likely to increase racism.
@ABonafideSkeleton
5 жыл бұрын
It's all well and good calling out anti-racism for being as harmful as it is but when is someone going to publicly denounce racism against white people? Yanno, the only form of racism that is perfectly acceptable and widely peddled by the mainstream media? Or how about the fact that we aren't allowed to stand up for or defend ourselves for fear of being smeared as a racist or white supremacist and how this is widening a divide that many people previously fought to bridge? Anti-racism is 100% a problem, but we cannot turn a blind eye to the normalisation of racism against whites either.
@yosemitesam4549
5 жыл бұрын
A Skeleton I don’t think we will live long enough to hear racism against whites condemned. You are especially horrible if you are a white man. No matter of your character, you’re just condemned outright with no road to forgiveness. I frankly and outright condemn that attitude and I recognize that there only so far you’re going to push us before we push back.
@ghoulhaven7765
5 жыл бұрын
Yosemite Sam the fact that you can be white, have every form of discrimination against as any black person, but have it shrugged off because your skin tone is just shit
@TheDangerous123dan
5 жыл бұрын
Why do you believe "the current version" of anti-racism is likely to "increase" racism? what is it about the current version that will cause this to happen? Second question: Is there a version of anti-racism that won't lead to an increase in racism? An would that version be acceptable to you an if so, would you be willing to participate in promoting that version? Third question: Do you believe there should be a version of anti-racism? If so, what elements would you want to see included that would speak to your concerns, that's not now included in the conversation about race and racism? What in your opinion is needed to have an effective anti-racism conversation? I know, that's way more than 3 questions...lol. But I would appreciate hearing your thoughts. I do work in the area of racial reconciliation and I'm always interested in finding ways to bring real healing to our racial divide. Thanks!
@yosemitesam4549
5 жыл бұрын
@@TheDangerous123dan You asked and I consider your questions sincere so I'm going to give you the open honest unfiltered opinions: 1. Because the current version brings out racist thoughts in me. I find myself thinking racially based thoughts and then I have to reason with myself from the collective back to the individual. I start listing the minority people who are precious to me and walk myself back to reason. The beginning of this process goes back to the redefining of racism from a hatred of someone based on their race to requiring power. So someone can (and have) stand up and say the death of every white person on earth would be a good thing but suffer no repercussions whatsoever. Hatred on the base of race, religion or sex is deplorable. 2. Yes, Martin Luther King’s dream that everyone would be judged on the content of the character not the color of their skin is the answer. I was a kid at the time but when I learned of the discrimination, back of the bus, separate water fountains, schools and such like, in my mind I thought, these things are wrong and I applauded the advancements made. 3. Same answer as # 2. Content of character not color of skin. But let me add, to fix anything you have to work at the individual level. There is no “collective” fix for all Blacks, illegal immigrants, poor in other countries. You can’t fix the whole but you can help an individual. Any discussion of anti-racism needs to include whites and as long as we can’t have a discussion on race without whites being labeled racist for engaging in the discussion, it can’t happen. And we have to include behavior in the discussion as well. I relive the following over an over again: A young lady pulled up at our building of worship this past Sunday. She couldn’t have been out of her 20s but maybe early 30s. I’ve seen her a lot. She sends her child into the building to ask for assistance. She’s got no husband but has 5 children from 5 different men and naturally she is in constant need of assistance. What chance does she have for a prosperous life? None. And she isn’t really interested in a spiritual life, she just wants financial help. We give her diapers, formula, money for gas and food for the children. What else can you do? What chance do those five kids have? But even mentioning such things will get me called a racist. This country is in crisis over the lack of strong family units but no one can talk about it. The welfare state has destroyed families. And of course if the discussion is over race, then I’m a racist and if the discussion is over the need for fathers then the feminists scream about the patriarchy. I’m frankly glad that I’m not young. I don’t want to see the results of this mess in another 40 years.
@worldgonemad5866
5 жыл бұрын
How dare you bring context into a complicated topic.
@ROYALP100
5 жыл бұрын
Nothing complicated about this unfortunately what he's leaving out is the lack of accountability by our elected officials who have failed to reconcile past racial injustices(Black Wall street for instance) which help to foster the current climate of race pandering.
@UltimateTobi
5 жыл бұрын
@@ROYALP100He didn't say complex but context. And you obviously didn't get the sarcasm.
@ROYALP100
5 жыл бұрын
:Well so glad you're reading between the lines?
@worldgonemad5866
5 жыл бұрын
@@ROYALP100 , do you know that so-called black wallstreet was simply a prosperous black neighborhood? It had nothing in common with the real wall street.
@rckli
5 жыл бұрын
Roflmao Worldgonemad seems mad educated on the subject Liked both his comments. Are you a kafka man, i wonder
@Section8dc
4 жыл бұрын
Comparing it to a religion was honestly eye opening, I never thought of that comparison.
@silversilk8438
4 жыл бұрын
It was a good comparison, but why didn't you/we know it all along? It's the Secular Humanist's version of Catholicism. Maybe you knew it all along, but you never took the time to let it sink in until the words bubbled up and you could express it audibly. People go marching for miles without asking where they are headed.
@mosienko1983
4 жыл бұрын
I don't know if you've heard of Christopher Hitchens but this sort of thing was what Hitchens had in mind when he said that "religion poisons everything". It is the religious way of thinking that is the problem. There are a lot of his videos on KZitem. You should check them out - and I highly recommend his books (Especially, "God is Not Great"). Also, check out anything by Richard Dawkins.
@silversilk8438
4 жыл бұрын
@@mosienko1983 Atheism, as a religion, is also a poison, especially when it doesn't admit its religiosity (as when atheists steal the definition of "agnostic" to get away from the burden of proof when arguing with Christians. They like to say they simply _lack a belief_ rather than they they are making a truth-claim). Atheism provides no basis for objective morality (as in, nothing is actually wrong it's just your opinion and preference that you dislike a certain action e.g. murder). So it's funny that evangelical atheists write books judging God when they have no basis for morality. You can go check out a wide variety of arguments and evidences. See also, that in philosophy there's been a resurgence, and growing sureness, that a God must exist. See also, nature: The creation cannot create itself (yet atheists insist on this). Nothing cannot create something, and you know that idea that "with a law like gravity the universe can and will create itself"? Well the law of gravity also didn't exist because literally nothing existed, not natural laws, not space nor matter nor time nor energy: Something created the universe, and fyi for thousands of years Genesis 1:1 has attested to the beginning of the universe - and that wasn't a common idea; people used to think the world was eternal. There is absolute/objective truth. [The statement "there is no absolute truth" is an absolute statement and thus if true it says it cannot be true, so it self-refutes... and this is post-modernism's main crux, that there are no metanarratives.] So since there is absolute truth, and by the way there is an objective moral law too, I think you should consider the following. Have you ever lied? Have you ever stolen anything? Have you ever looked at someone and lusted after them, committing adultery wit them in your heart? Have you ever blasphemed God or used His name in vain? Have you ever envied what someone else had? Those are all sins, and part of the commandments at Exodus 20. The reason it's brought up is because we look at one another, we say "I'm better than that person there" because we do comparisons rather than pure assessments individually. If you've done another of those things (theft, lying, lusting, swearing, etc.) then you've failed to *love your fellow man to your utmost, to perfection.* Everyone fails on this regard, which is why Jesus Christ, the Son of God, was sent by His Father into our world: Not to condemn us, but to save us, because we ALL stand condemned. (John 3:15-19) If you believe on Him you will be saved, but you should know what you're believing in. The Gospel of John is good reading; Get to know the God of Love, the God who is Moral, the God whose ways are higher than our own; The God of mercy, grace, and goodness. God is glorious, awesome, and good. Only God is good. You are not good, I am not good, because we have the ugly imperfections of sin, and we know what sin is, because God gave us a conscience to know better. Read the Bible for yourself, perhaps even try to pray, but I tell you this: There are atheists who, in trying to disprove the Bible, actually study it, and become Christians. Sin is the disease, salvation is the cure: If you don't know that you are a sinner, you won't want to be saved from your sins, but if you listen to the conscience in your head, which on its own is enough to convict you as guilty of sin, you will realize just how many times you choose to do the wrong thing when you know that the right thing is love. PS: kzitem.info/news/bejne/qm2Vn2apo4eUgn4
@mosienko1983
4 жыл бұрын
@@silversilk8438 You know, I used to reply to morons like you but it really is a waste of my time. Open your mind, and read something useful. But don't bother me.
@silversilk8438
4 жыл бұрын
@@mosienko1983 Have a nice day, Annie Mosienko! :) God loves you which is why he gave you a way that you won't have to die for your sins. Believe on His Son and you will be saved. It's not an impossible ask, that he asks that you love your neighbor and love the One who created you. But I must respectfully disagree with your address of me. When God says "you are wonderfully and fearfully made" and says that he has numbered the hairs on our heads, and that we are worth more than many sparrows, then I think that for one pot to say to another pot a judgement not held by the potter is inappropriate behaviour. If God loves me, and God loves you, we should love one another rather than be so bitter. I hope you will have a really lovely and beautiful day, looking at life with fresh eyes and seeing just how perfectly wonderful it is to be in the moment you're living in, because even the bad moments, looking back, made you stronger like iron tempered by fire and ice. I hope for you that God will work in your heart and give you faith, and give you understanding, but more importantly, give you peace unlike the peace this world offers (which is so conditional and fading) and love to love others with which you never knew you could love with. (as opposed to the conditional and self-serving affection that one might have for someone to the extent that the other person is being kind back to them) Oh, and I'd love if it you enjoyed this video: kzitem.info/news/bejne/sI2guGx5cZR8m4Y Also, this is a really new/fresh channel, with only about five videos on it now, but it's very brilliant and enjoyable too: kzitem.info/rock/mIwZDSKSeNboqWKtgX7UrA I hope you come to know our Lord Jesus Christ! _The truth is true even if no one believes it, and a lie is still a lie even if everyone believes it: Truth is objective, but you actually have no basis for objective morality without an external source. There are some brilliant arguments... for instance there's a recent one I'll post link to now_ Much love. Cool argument: kzitem.info/news/bejne/u3pvmIuXh5x7eW0
@yellowlime2483
5 жыл бұрын
Joe Rogan needs this guy on his Podcast now.
@georgechristie9464
5 жыл бұрын
Joe Rogans a Prick
@Hrothgrar
5 жыл бұрын
@@georgechristie9464 No, he's a thumb. 😂
@Los_Servants
5 жыл бұрын
@@keithdenno839 George Christie doesn't know wtf he's talking about.
@NickFirimonte
5 жыл бұрын
@@keithdenno839 Not even a debate. He just facilitates good conversations most of the time.
@cuchullain27
5 жыл бұрын
He certainly does.
@stephanesurprenant60
5 жыл бұрын
To some people, this man is like a unicorn: a college professor of humanities talks about the harm done by the de facto censorship imposed on discussions of racism in the US. Look at him. Calm, thoughtful, polite. May he influence his students to be more like him!
@AmirGTR
5 жыл бұрын
Is that really our problem though? That some idiot doesn't have a platform to mask rich scam artists from people and point the blame at someone else? Face it babe, if it isn't the "alt left" and "alt right" it's always something else, as long as it isn't holding people responsible for managing our fucking tax dollars.
@waleuska
5 жыл бұрын
HAHAHAH THIS DUMBASS HAHAHA
@lizardas
5 жыл бұрын
@@waleuska Can you elaborate? Let us in on the joke.
@lizardas
5 жыл бұрын
Stéphane, maybe the stereotype of college professors of humanities is a false one.
@Qingeaton
5 жыл бұрын
@@waleuska BLM is the joke. If they wanted to be something, they would not single out Blacks as mattering. They would be called Our lives matter. Gun control is another joke. You think those inner city kids go to walmart and buy their guns? Ask any of them convicted for shooting someone. They buy their guns from other people and most of them are stolen. What the main difference between the races that I see is that for whatever reason, black men are in general, not great at being dads. You know it's true. Maybe it's because the welfare system will pay if there is no man around to be responsible for his own kids. Maybe it's because he never had a dad around either so he doesn't know what it means to be a man. It's people just like you who mock a successful black man, who sees through the crap, that perpetuate the idea that if you are smart and well spoken, you ain't black enough.
@oxtailsoup6493
5 жыл бұрын
As a black man this articulate brilliant gentleman is what I consider to be a thought leader in the black community. Not Sharpton, and not Jackson.
@vsupreme9386
5 жыл бұрын
The Sharptons and Jacksons are in power to lead us into chaos
@gregwhitenerel7846
5 жыл бұрын
I doubt if you're black. The fact that you bring up sharpton and Jackson is a dead giveaway, liar.
@jeanetteb2347
5 жыл бұрын
indeed very articulate and brilliant.
@mjt5576
5 жыл бұрын
John McWhorter is brilliant and clear thinking. But he doesn't fit the Liberal narrative, so he's not well known. But he definitely should be.
@gregwhitenerel7846
5 жыл бұрын
@@mjt5576 why? Because he's black and defends killer cops with white supremacist talking points?
@erynlasgalen1949
4 жыл бұрын
That is why I respect John McWhorter so very much -- his willingnes to change his mind in the face of new information. It is the sign of a superior intellect.
@elplebeuchiha1996
3 жыл бұрын
I disagree. I think it’s a sign of humility. There’s a lot of brilliant individuals who are frankly too arrogant to change their views. Cognitive dissonance is a hell of a drug. It takes humility to admit you are wrong and change. [+]
@laurasalo6160
5 жыл бұрын
I stumbled here -- I must know more about this man...
@ras-negusbloomfield8145
5 жыл бұрын
Me too. Same here
@SolDizZo
5 жыл бұрын
kzitem.info/news/bejne/r5Boy56Fi4dygYY This is where I first found him. He was disagreeing with Jordan Peterson in a QNA about transgender pronoun use. He later stated that he refused to go on a panel with Jordan because he didn’t want to be the “token black man.” I feel like he got a bit wiser about race issues since then... he’s recognized as part of the IDW today.
@zenobardot
5 жыл бұрын
@@SolDizZo John Has been delivering the same basic message about race since publishing "Losing the Race" in 2000. For a long time, it was assumed by many on the left that he was a Republican, because of his contrarian views on race. He's actually a centrist, and calls himself a "cranky Democrat".
@davestafford4905
5 жыл бұрын
white girls can't resist that intellectual BBC tbh
@snozzybosch7503
5 жыл бұрын
Me too. A breath of fresh air for sure in a world full of bullshit.
@martynspooner5822
5 жыл бұрын
Articulate and intelligent and not afraid to speak the truth however unpopular.
@rachelholtzman6978
5 жыл бұрын
Articulate??? Thats racist! LMAO
@jackalope_hunter
5 жыл бұрын
@@rachelholtzman6978 Funny joke.
@dynamicflashy
5 жыл бұрын
Lol. Is it so rare to find an articulate black man that it's so often pointed out when one is well-spoken? Judging by many sports stars and rappers, perhaps so.
@Grimmwoldds
5 жыл бұрын
@@dynamicflashy No. It is so rare to find an articulate English professor that it's so often pointed out when one is well-spoken.
@FreeSilio
5 жыл бұрын
He can speak the truth just because he's black. If he happened to be white he won't be allowed to talk like that.
@carycontreras6294
4 жыл бұрын
This man should be an integrated part of the presidential cabinet.
@jamesmendez7575
4 жыл бұрын
@benji And shoot be booed!
@omalone1169
4 жыл бұрын
@@jamesmendez7575 Oprah may have had a curious show following the OJ Simpson acquittal yet when you review the catalogue of Donahue you have to concede he really pushed for conflicting ideas and alternative views. This channel alongside the history declassified one has much useful material and should be considered alongside Lance Hill's material on the deacons for defence archive.org/details/TheCowsRadioShow archive.org/details/TheCowsRadioShow2 www.talkshoe.com/show/thecows In his introduction to Deacons For Defence [and Justice] he writes: King was acutely aware of these white fears of violence, and in his first and most important book, Stride toward Freedom, published in 1958, he adamantly argued that the civil rights movement had to adopt nonviolence if it wanted to win over northern whites. ‘‘Only through a nonviolent approach can the fears of the white community be mitigated,’’ argued King. ‘‘A guilt-ridden white minority lives in fear that if the Negro should ever attain power, he would act without restraint or pity to revenge the injustices and brutality. . . . Many white men fear retaliation. The job of the Negro is to show them that they have nothing to fear, that the Negro understands and forgives and is ready to forget the past.’’ ‘‘Bomb our homes and threaten our children; send your hooded perpetrators of violence into our communities and drag us out on some wayside road, beating us half dead, and we will still love you. But we will soon wear you down by our capacity to suffer.’’ Minister Malcolm mocked this capacity to love when he spoke of the need to "suffer peacefully" itself provoking reflection on 'The Moral Masochism at the Heart of Christianity' . Maybe this explains why Rodney King called for an end to the violence on May 1, 1992: "People, I just want to say, you know, can we all get along? In April 1963, in his Letter From A Birmignham Jail: "First, I must confess that over the last few years I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro's great stumbling block in the stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen's Council-er or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate who is more devoted to "order" than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says "I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I can't agree with your methods of direct action;" who paternalistically feels he can set the timetable for another man's freedom; who lives by the myth of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait... In his essay “The August 28th March on Washington: The Castrated Giant” (1964), in Duties, Pleasures, Conflicts: Essays in Struggle, Ekwueme Michael Thelwell wrote "This exploitation of so many angry and sincere people, whose indignation was misrepresented as some kind of testimonial for the SYSTEM that had oppressed them, and against which they were protesting, must qualify as one of the greatest and most shameless manipulations of recent years."
@Mr._Moderate
4 жыл бұрын
@Cary Contreras - you and everyone else on this thread are despicable. 👍 Sorry for raining on your white privilege parade carry on 💁♂️
@Mr._Moderate
4 жыл бұрын
@Rob Pashley because he's "non-threatening"?
@Mr._Moderate
4 жыл бұрын
@Rob Pashley what truth? 1. Just because he makes you feel less insecure about your racial identity doesn't mean it's the truth 2. Did you research the names of the people he referred to see if they were "exactly the same"? 🤔 I'll wait...
@lynnethermann1912
4 жыл бұрын
watching in June 2020. worthwhile discussion of anti-racism as religion, right now.
@JonMayBowles
4 жыл бұрын
I can see that: in the same way pre-enlightenment religion advanced human civilization for tens of thousands of years, we now need rational moral systems (like anti-racism, action on AGW etc) if we are to continue that advance for another 10, 20, 50, 100 thousand years - and beyond.
@ajchapeliere
4 жыл бұрын
McWhorter definitely has some interesting insights on the matter and I think there has been a shift away from some of the more "religious" aspects of anti-racism that he highlights here. From what I'm seeing, there's this huge push for the sort of policies that are actually going to produce change rather than a simple appeal to the white guilt complex. There is still discussion of white identity and race but the goal seems to be making whites more conscious of internal biases and the ways in which our passive biases actually cause harm instead of just trying to induce some simplistic guilt trip. It may just be bias in what I'm seeing, but I think there's been a real shit away from the less-than-productive neo-liberal policies that have been bogging down actual progress. A lot of the tweets, essays, etc. that I've been seeing recently indicate that there are black communities in this country that are very much preoccupied with addressing violence within their communities because it's a known problem. I have seen voices from some black communities saying there isn't discussion of that issue, so I imagine it varies from one community to the next and that the topic just hasn't reached the level of nation-wide dialogue yet. Police brutality has been an issue for far longer than the gangs that contribute to intra-racial killings so it makes some amount of sense that there's lag. I think right now the biggest reason people are trying to keep that issue out of the main discussion is because it's being used to deflect away from the issue of police brutality.
@tombombadil1351
4 жыл бұрын
@@ajchapeliere no its still just as religious. 3 funerals for george floyd( a violent repeat criminal). his death was the 2nd coming of jesus for them, he proved the prophecy"america is racist" true to them. David Dorn(valiant retired policeman) killed in protest/riots. where's his 3 funerals? its still religious: kzitem.info/news/bejne/opuXu3tonZF4fo4 look at how they react to logical conversation on data. "From what I'm seeing, there's this huge push for the sort of policies that are actually going to produce change rather than a simple appeal to the white guilt complex." This is only happening because so many more people have joined their ideology so the alarm is louder than ever.
@zephsmith3499
4 жыл бұрын
@@ajchapeliere If that is true, it would be very hopeful. Can you provide some links to this new paradigm? I have not yet run into any substantial shift, but as you say it may vary by location or community. I need some hope that we can escape from the stalemate, rather than just dig it deeper.
@ajchapeliere
4 жыл бұрын
@@zephsmith3499 I'm not sure if there are any documents from the BLM movement itself that outline it but I do see some elements of the shift in think-pieces like this one forge.medium.com/performative-allyship-is-deadly-c900645d9f1f One of the things McWhorton touched on that really struck me was this idea that Anti-Racism was focusing on white guilt in a way that wasn't actually productive. I'm still definitely seeing an emphasis on the idea that white passivity and blindness to certain issues is a key part of the overall problem but that's being accompanied by discussions of what actions we can actually take to tangibly help black communities. I'm seeing a lot more posts about major historical events in the black community on social media than I remember seeing in the past (could be confirmation bias, but even if it is, I'm taking the opportunity to learn). There seems to be a move to educate white people about the policies and events that have created setbacks for black Americans so we can make more informed decisions going forward. I also found an op-ed in which a black author called out his white publishers for stalling on a major pre-publication meeting with him to "take time to reflect on current events" or something along those lines. I'm having trouble finding it but if I track it down, I'll link it. Outside of that, it looks like there's more urgency behind passing legislation in this country than I think we've seen since 9/11. Gov. Cuomo of NY signed legislation today banning the use of choke-holds and other neck restraints. Other cities and states have been making similar moves. Some are moving towards defunding police and/or completely restructuring public safety programs. A lot of that news is available through the NY Times live blog which should be free access: www.nytimes.com/2020/06/12/us/protests-george-floyd-black-lives-matter.html It's still hit and miss I think but the fact that we're actually having conversations about performative allyship and white guilt being unproductive is a good sign.
@horridCAM
5 жыл бұрын
My father, a white man, was killed by a LAPD officer named Kevin Arnold. He was unarmed and did not deserve to die. It's why the "white privlege" thing hurts so much. I WISH I had some of that. Im below the poverty line and live in the hood. I love my community and life, but everything I have, I fucking EARNED it.
@monchelmitchell
5 жыл бұрын
that was classism-prejudice against or in favor of people belonging to a particular social class. : poor white vs. white elitism. Trust you still have white privilege against minorities.
@fredrickgarcia8917
5 жыл бұрын
xoxo unicorn that privilege can get used against you because you are a standout in that environment, be more thoughtful and have a variety of thought instead of just implying “well even though you suffered this and that setback, you’d still have this privilege” everybody is human and situations aren’t always propertied to fit your rational
@42Nightsyesterday
5 жыл бұрын
Privilege is contextual. It does exist but it is much more nuanced than the SJW leftist think. Yes, white privilege does exist, I have seen it. In most asian countries, if you are white you receive a lot of benefits from being white, but in the same vein if you are white and you live in the hood of chicago or detroit your privilege is not very substantial. people will still look at you like you are trash, whether you are black or white. Similarly, if you are a trans colored person on a college campus you possess a near godly level of privilege where you can get away with just about anything and get most scholarships or programs you apply for without having any merit. Privilege does exist, but it is contextual and goes both ways, but it has been simplified and used by a weapon of the left, which only ever hurts the people they try to "protect"
@kat3325
5 жыл бұрын
42Nightsyesterday I would sort of put a but on white privilege in Asia. While it is true, but in a lot of countries white.. or at this extent foreigner of almost any origin have no rights as locals do. It’s hard to do business, super hard to buy property, let alone even to settle down there unless u marry a local. Plus you are not taken serious and you always know you are a guest.
@42Nightsyesterday
5 жыл бұрын
@@kat3325 yes you are totally right, but just to make my point simple and clear I didn't want to get too into it since this is a topic that can be talked about at great length. suffice it to say in the short term it is nice to be white in asia, but for long term settling down it is much more difficult, and with a societies in asia being very community based you will never be fully accepted, even if you are fluent and have lived there for years. anyways, what privilege you do receive is based on stereotypes and fetishes of westerners which are beneficial but still annoying. still, its better than the stereotypes they have about black people or other asians I'll say. being an asian foreigner in a place like japan for example is quite harsh.
@willbournerv2259
4 жыл бұрын
What’s this, logical and rational independent thinking?
@chiacheeseng538
4 жыл бұрын
Yes
@marcspade_pipes
4 жыл бұрын
Yep. And I'm sure the dislikes are all people calling him an Uncle Tom.
@killerb187r.o.dstunna9
4 жыл бұрын
It's not, I saw 3 other black people bringing up the same reasoning. Saying the Exact same things, calling the exact same names, of people that died .trying to justify something, what they are talking about is it facts? yes, but they still don't get it. the people who are saying this are ,well dressed and highly educated. Fools, They are not representing the majority of black people, that's why they don't understand, I'm not from United States of america so I can see it, but they can't . But I do understand what he's saying that's logic. Logic and reality is two different things.
@willbournerv2259
4 жыл бұрын
killerB 187 R.O.D stunna that’s a whole load of meaningless nonsense you just said
@EgoBrain1
4 жыл бұрын
@@killerb187r.o.dstunna9 His logic is using the reality. Lol 🤦
@joshuasatterwhite9520
4 жыл бұрын
Commenting just so the algorithm gets more people to see this
@Luke_BR_
4 жыл бұрын
That's very important, so I'm doing the same.
@kabambakapambalala5325
4 жыл бұрын
You're a true soldier
@FOY43
4 жыл бұрын
Gotta spread the truth
@younggrasshopper3531
4 жыл бұрын
Spreading your white supremacist ideology! - jk jk 🙃
@joshuasatterwhite9520
4 жыл бұрын
YoungGrasshopper I’m black
@erickminor
5 жыл бұрын
Thank you John for clearly articulating what I couldn’t quite put my finger on about the manufactured outrage that is often displayed by race hustlers.
@AdultThirdCultureKid1971
5 жыл бұрын
Erick Minor You mean the Reverend Al Sharpton? 🤔 I still remember the article I read about alleged hate crimes against Tawana Brawley in 1989.
@rodneyleon3645
5 жыл бұрын
just make sure that isnt all you get. Dont just come here for an "Aha!".
@rckli
5 жыл бұрын
Odibex - Asians are wealthier than whites Now tell me what a "black" person is: People aren't crayons
@RunninUpThatHillh
5 жыл бұрын
Are you pretending you don't know what someone means when they say "black person"?
@rckli
5 жыл бұрын
I know what it means depending on context because it is an immoral social construct generated by tribal desires to separate people into groups using arbitrary designations (people pretend "black" is what my skin looks like if i spend time in the sun, otherwise they call it "white" or "tan." Now, I'm not a crayon: What color are puertoricans?) "a person of African descent" = black? I'm from America, all of my ancestors are American born. Let's go with "white" WW1 was fought by a lot of shades of white that would've called themselves a separate race then, yet they don't now. Now all Europeans are "white." XD so many crayons It is simple: If you utilize race to separate humans, you're a racist. I'm not racist: I am American. What are you?
@diesel8869
4 жыл бұрын
I don't understand why men like him who think critically and obviously intelligent are not chosen as country leaders? Why are Clintons and Trumps chosen?
@MrPokerblot
4 жыл бұрын
Moments
@MrPokerblot
4 жыл бұрын
Money
@kraven4444
4 жыл бұрын
@@MrPokerblot Ding Ding Ding. It's money and popularity of name. Takes Millions and Millions to even run. If you don't got it then you gotta get it through a fund raiser. But no one is gonna give you money just for being honest. You have to promise them results in their favor.
@seventhevii3188
4 жыл бұрын
A guy like this does not have a corrupt bone in his body. THAT is why he could never be chosen
@tinkerinWstuff
4 жыл бұрын
Because every-day folks don't participate early in the process (caucus level). People who attend caucus choose the party platform, choose who will represent them at county, state, & national assembly, and choose who make the ballots. When only the folks who's hobby is politics participate at caucus, you get the extreme right and extreme left choosing who the Regular Joe's get to vote for on election day.
@Acolyte47
5 жыл бұрын
Who the hell is this guy and why have I never heard of him?? I need more!!
@ubellubo
5 жыл бұрын
Acolyte47 John McWhorter is a professor of linguistics. He does lectures on linguistics for The Great Courses and has written a number of books on linguistics as well as at least one book on race relations in America. He also hosts a podcast on language called Lexicon Valley. I agree he is really great.
@TheAuron32
5 жыл бұрын
you've probably not heard of him because he doesnt suit more common agendas, as in lies, truth gets you nowhere these days sadly.
@TexasGolfer
5 жыл бұрын
He pokes holes in the left’s views with logic. You will never see him on the mainstream propaganda channels that brainwash the masses.
@mu0FFpu0FF
5 жыл бұрын
His name is in the title 🤔
@parkerhix1057
5 жыл бұрын
You've never heard him because he's not out being controversial, the media probably thinks he's uninteresting for a story. We need more coverage on guys like this. Really sucks the truth is so hard to get out there.
@Kitkat-986
4 жыл бұрын
Huh. It's refreshing to hear someone speak logically rather than emotionally.
@Mr._Moderate
4 жыл бұрын
@josh fritz - and I would argue that it's your emotions that make you think this rubbish is actually logical 👍
@Kitkat-986
4 жыл бұрын
@@Mr._Moderate When someone says something that you not only disagree with, but also challenges a belief you hold, you instinctively react with emotion as if you were attacked, and double down on what you believe because you're no longer thinking with reason, but emotion.
@Mr._Moderate
4 жыл бұрын
@@Kitkat-986 actually I thought he was opening a new perspective because I never heard of the cases he referred to... Then I investigated those cases... And he's a fraud. What did you do? Did to do that? 👂
@tombombadil1351
4 жыл бұрын
@@Mr._Moderate explain how those cases indicate he is a fraud?
@tombombadil1351
4 жыл бұрын
@@Mr._Moderate because i believe you are the delusional one here
@BlyGuy
5 жыл бұрын
This guy's time is short in acedemia if he is going to go off script like this moving forward. Good for him.
@Theomite
5 жыл бұрын
In academia? That's just the first door to close on him if he doesn't get back on the rail.
@Thkaal
5 жыл бұрын
This man has been off script for nearly 20 years
@BlyGuy
5 жыл бұрын
@@Thkaal I hope he remains in a prominent position and continues sticking to the truth. 2019 is a different time for truth tellers than any other point in history. All dissenting voices are being eliminated in a multitude of ways, but mainly algorithmically. Those that are awake, not that fake psyop woke bullshit, need to be vigilant. No one is coming to save us, only we can stave off the dystopian future predicted in just about every other Hollywood movie.
@jesswiseman2086
5 жыл бұрын
Tenure. It cuts both ways, but for this man.. it's his shield. :)
@kaila62kaila
5 жыл бұрын
As a Black conservative, this is a breath of fresh air. Of course, racism exists. However, I totally agree that the present scorch-earth approach is delusional and ultimately counterproductive.
@mightress
5 жыл бұрын
Absolutly racism excists. Some white men hate blacks, some asians hate native americans, some japanese wil hate chinese and so on. But the white hate black per definition BLM uses all the time is total and absolute bollocks. If a guy resists arrest or is just being a dumbass towards the police or even do pull a knife or gun on a cop you might get shot.
@spaycee9082
5 жыл бұрын
9 000 I’m sure he said it to highlight how stupid the whole thing is since he finds them equally silly
@tedhall6148
5 жыл бұрын
As a person living in rural Oklahoma I can see you the same sort of consistent and continual anger over things because of the economic instability as well as the seemingly hopelessness of people situations while our communities aren't necessarily as depressed as the inner cities I know what that's like I used to live in the projects in Detroit I can't imagine the degree of trouble that people living in these extreme poverty high crime areas are experiencing but it's not an excuse for their disingenuous argument about racism something has to be to blame and just saying it's the system doesn't cut it.
@iian_
5 жыл бұрын
Damn right it exists, and more of it is being directed at white males than blacks at the moment. Its so hard to find actual racism that people like jesse smalldick have to fake entire hate crimes, then he gets away with it.
@Projolo
5 жыл бұрын
"Anti-Racism" is the new racism
@UltimateBargains
4 жыл бұрын
Let's get back to the "content of a person's character".
@malvolio01
4 жыл бұрын
That's "racist" now. Dumbing down of America is complete. Slogans are easier for most people to digest than nuanced thought like this.
@jumbo4billion
4 жыл бұрын
Haven't you heard? Every word and action has to be calculated according to the catagories ascribed to the person you are interacting with. It's called equality.
@alabama2uz
4 жыл бұрын
The last thing that followers of the socialist race theory cult want to be judged by is their content of character.
@geekrockrats
4 жыл бұрын
MLK would be canceled these days. That’s how insane we are
@linflower8879
4 жыл бұрын
I miss that concept.
@MinthZe
4 жыл бұрын
The fact he was able to take a step back and look at the facts and be willing to reevaluate his opinion goes to show what he says is well thought out
@omalone1169
4 жыл бұрын
"The dead bodies of black males are circulated shared and memed with little hesitation. Many in our society accept this reality as a norm but what effect does death have on the lives [and] the mental concept of the self that black males formulate in this violent world ? How do black males regard the future in a world which is so limited by the present ? To be a black male is to live in constant fear of being accused of some offence against another. Black males live in a world where any accusation [made] against them is thought to be evidence of their guilt" Tommy J Curry (professor of black studies and Africana philosophy currently based in Scotland, UK - excerpt from his book The Man Not.)
@yourmom2189
4 жыл бұрын
Yes, this is well thought out and articulate. However, it is incomplete and full of fallacies. Like if I were to build a house on an unstable foundation, causing lots of damage to the house, would I keep trying to repair the house or would I repair the foundation first? That’s what’s happening here. He keeps talking about repairing certain outcomes of broken systems, rather than repairing the actual systems that create the inequality and oppression.
@eromosei878
4 жыл бұрын
Facts? Wow I'm not even 5 mins into this video and this guy has already said a number of inaccurate things. Shaver's shooting was in NO WAY the same as the shooting of Tamir Rice. Shaver, 26, adult, white male, was using a scoped pellet gun from his hotel window. It was seen and cops were called. The entire incident went on for a period of time where his friends were ordered away and he was given instructions by the officers. In the stress of the situation he made movements that he was told not to and then he moved his hand to his waistband and the officer shot him. Bad shooting. He was unarmed. But to say this is the same as Rice? This was a 12 year old in a playground in broad daylight. The officer was called and told rice was an adult and the officer drove up, gave NO WARNING and shot this child in TWO SECONDS from INSIDE his car. How the F is that the same!? What the hell? I couldn't even keep watching this video because that right there sets up how dis ingenious this guy is being. I could be with you if you were arguing that hysteria over race can cloud things and weaken real justice for blacks. But don't pull out these ridiculous comparisons. Shame on this guy and I'm sorry for anyone who watches this and doesn't do the research.
@laertesindeed
4 жыл бұрын
@@yourmom2189 You saved your logical fallacies for the end of your comment...… it would have been better if you listed them first; so I could dismiss your comment and move on to actual reason and rationality sooner.
@joshuahayes4825
4 жыл бұрын
Laertes Indeed it would have been better if you hadn’t commented to. But here we are 🤷♂️
@Aquascape_Dreaming
5 жыл бұрын
Never heard this argued so eloquently. This man can stand with the greats that are Thomas Sowell and Larry Elder. Treating modern progressivism as an ideology or political movement isn't going to work. That's abundantly clear. Treating it as a religion might just hold the keys to freedom.
@goatee01
5 жыл бұрын
This is because it's a civilized debate. He's able to make is argument without being shut down.
@laurenlochamybatson8159
5 жыл бұрын
He is a linguist, so eloquently for him comes easy. This was a great debate, and if you have an hour or so to listen to the entire thing, I highly recommend it. He's also written a few articles detailing the similarities between anti-racism as an ideology and religion. Coleman Hughes is a younger man that says similar things. We need more like them, since they are criticizing their own group (the left) and can't be as easily dismissed as "right-wing extremists".
@derekshoemaker8990
5 жыл бұрын
I love Thomas Sowell. He's my boy.
@aimmortalslegacy2189
4 жыл бұрын
@@laurenlochamybatson8159read over your comment.. this is the way White society mutes the cries coming from the slave quarters out back. Get a Black man who is so desperate for peace and some degree of normalcy in his life, that he will stand on the plantation steps to speak out against his unruly family in favor of his owner. You love him because he disarms his community of the only weapon they have to fight, that is, speaking against that which continues destroys the Black community. You may like to believe that you are not a racist person, but as soon as you side with racist policy, or encourage Black men to condemn his community for voicing, that which may cause you to feel uncomfortable, you have adopted the characteristics of a racist.
@galaxyofreesesking2124
4 жыл бұрын
it takes a soft speaker like this just to get a couple people to think critically!? god help us all
@galaxyofreesesking2124
4 жыл бұрын
@SGT NOS no, my point was that we shouldn't just take this guy's word for it; Conservatives have saying this for YEARS.
@BrendaSchwab
4 жыл бұрын
GalaxyOfReeses KIng mass hysteria... American population is being manipulated through social media.... wake people up
@eldarion933
4 жыл бұрын
@SGT NOS cops kill people all the time? Like wtf? How many unarmed, innocent people do they kill? Any numbers?
@kianalove9273
4 жыл бұрын
@SGT NOS umm it's not just one black person. Educate yourself. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_racial_violence_in_the_United_States
@eldarion933
4 жыл бұрын
@SGT NOS the way you make your point is really unclear. Are you saying cops are killing alot or not?
@gavnat9991
4 жыл бұрын
I am commenting to bump this up given the current situation.
@bubbag8895
4 жыл бұрын
#metoo
@Mephitinae
4 жыл бұрын
Upvoted, replied
@dianewuchevich6208
4 жыл бұрын
@HKZ P If you've heard it you should research it and find out if it's true or false. There are many things on the internet. Some are true some aren't. You could easily google the issues because he gives you the statistics. It will be pretty easy to find out if he's telling the truth or lying.
@penmaster003
4 жыл бұрын
HKZ P This is in no way whataboutism. It’s ridiculous to claim that a comparison between statistics and evaluation of data is whataboutism and to claim that any argument that calls someone to reevaluate their own logic and actions is whataboutism. If you blatantly ignore the whole picture presented by the actual statistics then you are the one with fallacious logic, not him.
@SirmysticdagodTV
4 жыл бұрын
So what he's saying is yeah racism does exist but not really, because based on numbers you can counter the argument by saying what about blacks killing blacks in Chicago, and more whites are killed by cops... I say he's a complete bull$hi÷÷er!.. Dude! You can't honestly tell me that the percentage of blacks being killed by cops aren't totally lopsided in comparison to whites, when historically since post-slavery, this has been the case without any cellphone footage or bodycam to capture the murders of blacks by the hands of police. And I strongly dis-like when I hear these individuals who love to say, "Well, what about blacks killing blacks in Chicago?" Mumbo jumbo.. Although it holds truth but it's inconclusive, you can't tell me that the violence amongst blacks in these impoverished neighborhoods aren't stemmed from the systemic racism that has been implemented for over decades. This is the results of it today. Chicago is one of the most segregated Northern cities in America, and it's not by mistake it was by design. The Original Gangsters were white men like Al Capone, Frank Nitti and many others. They were the original gang bangers and thugs. Chicago was so divided it was worse than some parts in the South. The predominantly black neighborhoods became broken down by lack of equal opportunities of employment, loans, and other facets of racial discrimination. Study how gangs were created in the inner cities of the predominantly black impoverished. If they wanna use numbers and research, then research deeply and you'll know why our inner cities are filled with so much violence intertwined with survival instincts. Yes, this problem needs to be fixed absolutely, but to fix something that is broken, you must first fixed the minds and prevent the actions of the ones who had broke it in the first place. See it's quite socialpathic for someone to come and tear or burn down your home you have built from ground up, while you were in it. Then leave and come back moments later, to tell you that your house is broken and you need to fix it. REMEMBER TULSA?!! The nerve... This guy is being used as a pawn to undermine the crimes that was committed to blacks in the history of America that has ultimately led to the crimes and the happenings of today. Please John McWhatever.. Save your inconclusive ideology, for the ones who benefit from your undermining of black American plight, and for who you are appeasing to continue on with the mentality that systemic racism is a non factor, while underlining the encouraging of white privilege to proceed. Kudos black man (sarcasm).
@mrrolypoly5690
4 жыл бұрын
Ewwww, a free thinker. Let’s shun him and try to get his job taken away.
@mikexxxmilly
4 жыл бұрын
Lol post his address and murder his family for having a differing opinion!! Disgusting! How dare he!
@madimakes
4 жыл бұрын
Comments like this aren’t helping along the situation. Our modern culture gets dopamine hits from “smack downs” when what we need are useful discussions that help move us forward....no?
@Twizted86
4 жыл бұрын
@@mikexxxmilly Bigot logic :)
@cundionfire
4 жыл бұрын
@@madimakes Wait are you serious or can you not detect sarcasm?
@signa8
4 жыл бұрын
How dare a person of color say such things. Time to throw racial slurs at him and say he's not really black.
@TheseusTex
5 жыл бұрын
I adore this man for his intellectual honesty and ability to scrutinize what many consider sacred. He also only uses exactly the right word for what he means.
@mdkvisions
5 жыл бұрын
He makes you feel good about your life....what makes me laugh is I know if a cop stops him on the way home from this talk his heart is beating as hell like he's going to loose his life..
@craigdamage
5 жыл бұрын
@@mdkvisions You are a fucking troll if you think anybody "feels good" about people getting killed. Yeah. Cops are uniformed goons with guns and that is scary. Living in a high gang and crime neighborhood is verifiably 90 times more dangerous and likely to get killed than by a cop. Why do you not address that fact?
@trunkage
5 жыл бұрын
@@craigdamage Wait... do you think that excuse copw behaviour. That you think cops go around thinking. 'Well, this is a bad part of town. Safetys off then. If the bullet happens to lodge in someone's head, nobody will care.' Sure, that's not racist, but it's just about as bad. And, I'll remind you, this is what you're saying
@bakihanma7233
5 жыл бұрын
It's the fact that the cops can and will harass you without any repercussion whatsoever, just because they feel like it, that gets to me. On top of that, many of them (most in my experience) can be incredibly rude and disrespectful, they often treat you like you wasted their time by not doing anything wrong or having anything on you. But I guess I deserved that for having the audacity to work a night shift.
@ghoulhaven7765
5 жыл бұрын
Baki Hanma might be the area, cops used to absolutely suck where I’m living. Now they aren’t terrible, got keep in mind it’s a hard ass job as well. Because any day could turn into your last fairly easy, plus they are flawed humans just everyone else
@coenvanderlinden7375
4 жыл бұрын
His words about "anti-racism" becoming a religion are more true than ever in 2020. Every argument is true, this new religion even has an Inquisition medieval level and style. Shameful shortsighted and anti-moral.
@doeplatform5285
4 жыл бұрын
This statement OMG shared it on my FB, man you so on point brother. And this is why racisme only exists as concept cause i am black and to me it even appealed to me what your color is. Evil souls is the problem and evil, it is good vs evil in my opinion as umbrella.
@coenvanderlinden7375
4 жыл бұрын
@TrashPanda Raccoon dear sir or madam, i work with all cultures, religions, origines people in Europe. Retailers, foodservice and industry. All my hard working clients tell me that they always worked hard and never had systemic racisme in Europe. Facts and figures tell everybody the true story. Booing and whining is for little kids. I know individual racisme exists, but very small and in every culture and social group.
@michaelarivony7409
4 жыл бұрын
@TrashPanda Raccoon I think your remark is really undignifying. I dont think you have to be black to be able to sympathise, or at least intelletually understand the problem of raciemand priviledge. I have to agree with John here. It has become a religion. And the danger is that we tend to forget that in the system, other people are suffering too. Not only blacks.
@KovahhavoK
4 жыл бұрын
@TrashPanda Raccoon What about the black guy who is the one who said it in the first place... like, wut? If a black guy can say that and you shoot a white guy down for saying the same thing, isn't that him dealing with your prejudice right now? Invalidating your statement?
@williamchia6821
4 жыл бұрын
Sorry, but they are not true. He is straw manning the other side. For example “Despite what you may have heard, no one’s trying to make white men feel guilty for being white men” www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/story/2020-01-07/column-no-ones-trying-to-make-white-men-feel-guilty-for-being-white His argument that anti-racism is a religion is predicated on the belief that white people need to feel eternally guilty for being white. But almost no one actually believes that.
@FerretChloride
4 жыл бұрын
Self ownership is what we’re lacking.
@LouveniaMusic
4 жыл бұрын
Donalex Corfgutip 100% agree. America is a breeding ground for victim mentality. Somehow the idea of working hard to succeed got switched out with entitlement. Rich people are entitled when they evade taxes legally and try to manipulate poorer people using their power and reach, and poor people are entitled when they think the NYC metro should be free and rich people should have to give up their hard-earned money. What’s the point of the working hard to achieve the American dream if the government (which has proven to mismanage and waste money time and time again) plans to take half your earned income away? People just seem to think only rich people can be entitled. And that is illogical.
@Brianbeesandbikes
4 жыл бұрын
Stable white-respected ownership will happen when enuf antiracist whites stand up with black folk to stop / alter systemic racism. For eg: How whites can admit their racism and take action to REPAIR it WITHOUT GUILT kzitem.info/news/bejne/sq5jzYmciqplYIY Why being unapologetically Anti-Racist is needed, not just being NON-racist kzitem.info/news/bejne/wmh72oWan1-Uo4Y How to be an Antiracist kzitem.info/news/bejne/tbCrtaCvsoOdqJw kzitem.info/news/bejne/zq6Xmmd-cZ9hZmk Black man describes how he shed his own racism kzitem.info/news/bejne/tbCrtaCvsoOdqJw?t=1069
@TheNerdRapper
4 жыл бұрын
thats a fact
@garylake1676
4 жыл бұрын
I would go a little further and say that it is self determination that is lacking, The universities promote a culture where determining the future of your own self is sacrificed in the vain hope that you can embark on a journey of altruism and purge their respective countries of all the wrongs, both present and past, as that delays the long hard look in the mirror to discover who you actually are. Their unspoken mantra being 'The longer that I can fight for other peoples rights, the longer I can delay my childhood.' its the Peter Pan Complex.
@FerretChloride
4 жыл бұрын
Gary Lake a round of applause for you, sir 👏 well said.
@ernestalvarado3988
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much. As a Latino man I was thinking I was going insane for feeling this way.
@Mr._Moderate
3 жыл бұрын
Yes, you are insane and probably a little bigoted to boot 💁
@klondikebelridge1996
3 жыл бұрын
@@Mr._Moderate Wow you're all over this comment section. The cognitive dissonance is really getting to you, huh?
@Mr._Moderate
3 жыл бұрын
@@klondikebelridge1996 actually no its not... Are you depressed now because you've been upended?
@klondikebelridge1996
3 жыл бұрын
@@Mr._Moderate No, people pointing out how your world view is bullshit isn't bothering you at all. That's why you're all over the comment section accusing people you don't know of being racist. Mark of a simpleton to accuse people of bad motives rather than debate the actual points being discussed. Hopefully you'll grow up.
@Mr._Moderate
2 жыл бұрын
@@klondikebelridge1996 don't debate me debate McWhorter. He's the simpleton that started this video with horrible inaccuracies that you and yours sopped up as truth serum.
@DavidFrancis24824
4 жыл бұрын
I am terrified about the way things are going in the United States. We are more divided and angry than ever before, and the horrific truth is that the vocal majority of people think that they are making things better.
@clints4049
4 жыл бұрын
The divide is done on purpose and the whites in charge of it couldn't care less about black lives. If they did they'd be protesting against the killing fields in Chicago every week. The blacks murdered in Chicago in a year equals the number of people of every color killed yearly by police. Most of the police caused deaths are warranted which is why we don't hear about them.
@andrewmcintyre4955
4 жыл бұрын
"We are more divided than ever" just screams "I didn't do any critical thinking before saying this."
@Keviekev115
4 жыл бұрын
It’s suppose to. Research Gregg Braden. He explains during this year earths magnetic field is low. Which controls our moods and attitudes . But it will rise after
@susanb5058
4 жыл бұрын
I really like this advice
@kyleferguson5175
4 жыл бұрын
@Great Lakes I think its more than blacks who don't want brutal cops. One thing that is true is the police kill the powerless in society & that's always been the poor. Also important to remember even if the Taliban were killing more blacks than police - the taliban aren't paid to serve & protect.
@CP-qn1mn
4 жыл бұрын
OMG listening to someone who actually has a brain and can thing these issues through instead pumping a fever pitch of chaos and calamity.
@vinylrichiejr.2416
4 жыл бұрын
so people who are acting against racism have no brain? and to be clear, he says that racism still does exist in the US
@CP-qn1mn
4 жыл бұрын
@@vinylrichiejr.2416 You obviously didn't listen at all.
C P You obviously just a arrogant person who wants feel superior to others just because he watched a 14 Minute KZitem Video. This man wouldn’t say other people have no brain because he treats people with respect and stays humble. It‘s not just about the content you can learn from this man..
@CP-qn1mn
4 жыл бұрын
@@vinylrichiejr.2416 Lets see. Lately anyone who doesn't cow down to the politically correct story line has been absolutely destroyed publicly. The head football coach at Oklahoma State may lose his job because he wore a Trump t shirt. So you tell me who wants to be superior over others. I would say it s the people who want to destroy anyone who disagrees with them. Not someone who applauds someone for looking at these issues with context and thoughtfulness. Okay snowflake.
@ZenFox0
4 жыл бұрын
John McWhorter just articulated many of the thoughts I’ve had over the past 30 years, that are anathema to speak aloud. I oppose racism and racists, and also oppose the current culture of perpetual victimhood and collective guilt by association.
@michaelrichardson3027
4 жыл бұрын
always the victim.......makes me sick
@notimportant3686
4 жыл бұрын
there isn't much wrong with racism... it's discrimination that's worrisome.... i could care less if some dude dislikes me for my skin, i really truly do not give a fuck... racism is natural, i fully accept it and i'm one of those people that believes everyone is racist because IT IS LITERALLY CODED INTO OUR DNA.... a left over from tribal days... what i do care about is if i can't get a job because of either my skin color or the skin color of the people that need to be hired.... if i don't like you racially, i still would care MOST about what you can do for me if i employ you because MONEY is my number one concern and priority in my business i'll forgive every racism in the world if you can do the job... mine or yours
@jeffreyyoungblood7438
4 жыл бұрын
@@notimportant3686 well you can't have discrimination without racism. And no it's not in our DNA. What a ludicrous idea. It is learned from th culture you are raised in.
@ScottBrio
4 жыл бұрын
@@jeffreyyoungblood7438 You absolutely can have discrimination without racism and it happens all the time. One example: many women won't date short men because they like tall men. That's discriminating on physical height. No racism involved.
@POOKIE5592
4 жыл бұрын
Jeffrey Youngblood You've seriously never heard of age discrimination? Sex discrimination?
@JK-fz6tk
4 жыл бұрын
It looks like this was part of a debate. It would be good to post a link to the whole debate so we could hear the other sides point of view and response.
@sam-cn8tu
4 жыл бұрын
kzitem.info/news/bejne/zrCGsZ9ncqZkfqw voila
@willcruz7457
3 жыл бұрын
@@sam-cn8tu the hero we asked for, not the hero we deserve. Thank you.
@f.8522
3 жыл бұрын
@@sam-cn8tu thank you
@skaruts
4 жыл бұрын
To demand affirmative action and preferential treatment, is basically the same thing as saying: _"we're dumb, so you should make it easier for us."_
@37butterflyprincess
4 жыл бұрын
White people have benefitted from affirmative action and preferential treatment for over 200 years. It's documented history
@skaruts
4 жыл бұрын
@@37butterflyprincess Can you provide examples?
@MrFg1980
5 жыл бұрын
Wow. I know him from his linguistics lectures. This just brought my respect for him to a whole new level...
@TdotJohn
5 жыл бұрын
As a black man I 100% agree with this man
@johnathandoughboy
5 жыл бұрын
TdotJohn As a white man, i 100% agree with Mayonnaise
@johnathandoughboy
5 жыл бұрын
Paul van Dinther truth
@clololown
5 жыл бұрын
as an internet comment I am 100% pointless
@trje246
5 жыл бұрын
as a person on this world, he makes some pretty good points.
@paulnewberry8679
5 жыл бұрын
because he has inside perspective and isnt just going with the PC story.
@badtits8982
5 жыл бұрын
This guy should do voice over work, his cadence is very pleasant
@zenobardot
5 жыл бұрын
If you like his delivery, his "Lexicon Valley" podcast has it, plus lots of funny bits and interesting trivia about the evolution of language. It almost never has any political content--he keeps his commentary on race issues separate from his career as a (popular) linguist.
@badtits8982
5 жыл бұрын
@@zenobardot oh I love politics lol
@zenobardot
5 жыл бұрын
@@badtits8982 I probably love politics more than is healthy. Just saying McWhorter has more facets to his personality than what we see in this video.
@KaninTuzi
5 жыл бұрын
He sounds like a family guy character. Has that sleepiness in his voice.
@halhibben
5 жыл бұрын
Yes.
@billypopper7
4 жыл бұрын
I don't think Anti Racism is what he is talking about here. I would assume a large number of us would go out of their way to stop racism, if they saw it happening. I would call that anti racism. What he is talking about is when people avoid real discussion about race out of fear of being racist. I agree that that is a problem. We should have discussions about race and the role it played in our history and how it impacts us today. Also, in the beginning he said for everyone black man killed unjustly there is a white man killed unjustly. That may be true but that would mean black people are killed unjustly at a higher rate when you compare to their respective populations. Which would imply that there is something wrong here. Bottom line is that the policing system is not perfect and it is okay to discuss ways to improve it.
@oo1670
4 жыл бұрын
In my short life, I have learned that evil comes in all COLORS shapes and sizes
@gabo030189
4 жыл бұрын
The road to hell is paved with good intentions
@Rinesmyth
4 жыл бұрын
Evil is formless yet it latches on to all things
@Rinesmyth
4 жыл бұрын
@Mr. Freiheit more on point it would be black, white, gray, and/or red, but yes
@jeremythompson5151
4 жыл бұрын
@Katrina M Evil comes from the heart of people, who also come in all shapes and sizes
@jenninenicholls4988
4 жыл бұрын
Well said. Would you mind me sharing this?
@DavidEVogel
4 жыл бұрын
It seems to me that the media promotes and even invents racism. Headlines such as: "Group of loitering black youths told to leave Starbucks." "Group of loitering youths told to leave Starbucks" is a non-story. There is no interest. Its boring. Add "Black" and you get another controversial article about racism.
@jacdixie
4 жыл бұрын
Usually they wouldn't include the word "loitering," either.
@susanb5058
4 жыл бұрын
You are so right! Media is definitely fueling this fire.
@animeguitarguy
4 жыл бұрын
Jussie Smoilet had to try and invent some racism because there is so little in this country
@umiluv
4 жыл бұрын
Bingo! They’ve been doing this since as far as I can remember. Stopped trusting the media in 1992 when I was 10. The local LA news kept pumping hate, racism, etc and stoked the fires for the LA Riots.
@1904mojo
4 жыл бұрын
The police was called because they looked suspicious. All they were doing was waiting for a friend there. I don't know if it was racist or not but it doesn't seem normal to call the police because black people are waiting in a Starbucks. It's something white people(or any other group) would do
@DeviantDeveloper
4 жыл бұрын
Literally the only honest voice I've ever heard on this...
@cristiansantana2704
4 жыл бұрын
Try Candace Owens. Or Allen West.
@DeviantDeveloper
4 жыл бұрын
@@cristiansantana2704 ok CO too, will check AW
@kathymayes4290
4 жыл бұрын
Cristian Santana Larry Elder says this all the time. Also Thomas Sowell.
@torvaldbjornsson2243
4 жыл бұрын
I hear his points, and understand the sentiment, but this particular lecture has some problems. My main issue is that he is constructing a strawman argument. He makes claims about a very specific culture/movement, but never actually directly cites or quotes leaders (or any individual) from this movement. As such, we are left with a lecture that continually sets up a unsourced premise, that he then proceeds to counter. It is a one-sided conversation, against a culture that is not being actively proven to exist in the way he is saying it does. That being said, it would not surprise me if this is just an introduction lecture he is giving. I will give him the benefit of the doubt in this because I have not read any of his work or listened to any longer lectures. "Why should we focus on the occasional police officer that kills a black man, but not black on black crime?" This is a sentiment I disagree with very strongly. There is no reason we cannot have both discussions at the same time. American Police are out of control, and its not about good or bad apples, its about a broken system with zero civil accountability. McWorter correctly points out that a lot of white people are killed by American police, and I am tempted to agree that the issue of police is not one of racism, it is a much deeper structural problem. That tangent set aside, I think it is wrong to assert that we cannot talk about one problem without dismissing the other. His point about universities and forced diversity I absolutely agree with. What more, he actually cites a study, a case study, and the authors of the study. That makes the point he makes so much more succinct. Unfortunately he then goes on to claim "anti-racism tells us to not look at these studies". Who? Who are the anti-racists in this scenario? Are we talking about university leadership? Politicians? Is there a specific work or study or movement leadership that is denouncing these studies? So long as these questions are unanswered, McWorter is still pitting himself against a strawman. His point about white privilege is very correct, I think. Its a distraction, although I don't see it as being quite as harmful as McWorter does. And that concludes his speech. He raises very interesting points but ultimately I think it falls short because he is argueing against 'anti-racism' and introducing aspects, without citation, as he goes. Once again, I am willing to give McWorter the benefit of the doubt and I do believe that the format of this particular speech limited his ability to go in-depth on the topic (although he did cite a study for one of his points, I think he should have done this when talking about 'anti-racism'). But that's all my thoughts. Great speech, but I hope his other work will be more convincing.
@patshep68
4 жыл бұрын
Maybe we should just look at police violence as one issue, which is hard to tackle, without bringing race into it? Of course what's going on right now makes me wonder if anything can be separate from race. Maybe we should really be focusing on the economic issues that face black people in this country... because isn't that what it's all about in the end? Maybe we should spend more money on education, mentorship...after school activities etc...
@hollowsoul3832
4 жыл бұрын
I believe that when he says “anti-racism tells us not to look at these studies” he doesn’t mean it literally, he means that the followers and activists against anti-racism do not acknowledge and/or ignore the points that he is bringing up. I do believe the format didn’t allow him to go as in depth as necessary to prove all of his points
@torvaldbjornsson2243
4 жыл бұрын
@@hollowsoul3832 That's fair. I also get the impression it was a formatting issue.
@torvaldbjornsson2243
4 жыл бұрын
@@patshep68 This I really agree with. The issues faced by black people are reflections of societal structures as a whole. Making progress in these structures and institutions is the best way forward.
@calisongbird
4 жыл бұрын
If you had been paying attention, you would have picked up that this is just a snippet from a larger debate. The person who uploaded just this snippet obviously has an agenda, or the whole thing would have been uploaded for context.
@tumbi97
4 жыл бұрын
I disagreed with two things. If his main message is we need to have an educated view of racist systems instead of believing without looking at the facts, then completley agree. But the stats he cited pointed more torwards racism, and yet he used them to argue against racism. He acknowledged the disproportionate percentages and then uses nominal figures to neutralise them? Also, im surprised a professor is taking the "black on black" line seriously. Black on black violence is just like white on white violence...its general crime. But the law and judicial system treating certain people groups differently is it's own subject.
@philmstud2k
4 жыл бұрын
I agree. There's still a racist bias when it comes to the police and criminal justice system, but everything else, especially about religious-like superficial emotional activism versus devising actionable, concrete policy change ideas, was spot on.
@stephaniemitchell8509
4 жыл бұрын
I noticed that as well. If half the people killed by police are white, and they make up 62% of the population, and 25% of the people murdered are black, but they only make up 13% of the population, there's a clear racial bias. The bias also unfairly charges, convicts, and sentences black people to longer terms than white people for the same crimes. It's intellectually dishonest to overlook or dismiss this. Anti racism doesn't hurt black people more than racism itself does.
@lesedimokgobi7399
4 жыл бұрын
I think you are missing the point he was trying to make. Yes it's true black men get killed disproportionately more then white men. It's is also true the most black people in general live is low income 'high risk' areas. Areas where people are more likely to interact with the police Therefore if we pretendes that white people (for some non race related reason) only live in these stereotypically Black areas then they would be killed proportionately more. Simply due to interact with hyper violent police officers more I'm other words correlation doesn't equal causation. Black men being killed more by white doesn't immediately mean all police officers are racist. Though he does underplay the real role race does have.
@billium99
4 жыл бұрын
@@lesedimokgobi7399 IN 2019, the ratio of unarmed white people killed versus unarmed black people killed was 2:1 where white people outnumber black people 5:1. That's the problem being claimed and the same one Mr. McWhorter references, but then does not refute, instead calling it a "debate trick" and then not addressing it at all. Those numbers could still be lying, but this gentleman has not shown us how or why that would be the case.
@joaon4444
4 жыл бұрын
@@stephaniemitchell8509 The racial bias is not acknowledging that those 13% commit more crime period. We can then look for the social-economic reasons for that (we should, actually) and try to solve it. Most of the time criminality is linked to poverty and single parenthood. Go check the % in each race group in the US and the correlation to the imprisionment, interactions with the police (including people killed by the police) and you will understand better the reasons and how to change things.
@AP-Design
5 жыл бұрын
It’s sad that this video has barely any views after a few months, at the time of this post. I wish the national conversation would pivot more to include discourse like this.
@AdultThirdCultureKid1971
5 жыл бұрын
AP It is sad. I've shared this video on Twitter.
@Godwilla39
5 жыл бұрын
Over a year? It says published Dec 2nd, 2018...5 months
@AP-Design
5 жыл бұрын
Will Morrison whoops. Correct, sir, thanks. Perhaps I mixed this up with another video’s time stamp. At any rate, even with months out, I would have liked to see this one get more attention.
@warriorfire8103
5 жыл бұрын
It seems to be trending right now. I hate politics because of the endless bullshit but I kept seeing this guy over and over again so I just finally listened. Turns out to be something really reasonable and even refreshing.
@donnielang2438
5 жыл бұрын
Wow. someone tells what facts and statistics show.
@AdultThirdCultureKid1971
5 жыл бұрын
Donnie Lang Much respect to Dr. John McWhorter. 👊🏽😎
@OjoRojo40
5 жыл бұрын
This negro knows what he's talking about. Very well put and articulated.
@OjoRojo40
5 жыл бұрын
He's disgusting. @spot light
@craigdamage
5 жыл бұрын
@spot light so basically you simply refuse to address all the verifiable facts he presents here. Way to go, genius. Keep feeding the beast.
@jacksutherland846
5 жыл бұрын
Someone that's black does. That is.
@ebbbflow
4 жыл бұрын
Hmm...he talks about black homicide...but no mention of the systemic or systematic racism that was written into the constitution that gives him the privilege to speak to an audience...I’m not a scholar by any means, I’m very open to constructive criticism...but why did he not mention the systemic & systematic racism??? I know that’s not the issue he’s talking about in this speech, but I feel strongly, that should be accounted for, when searching for a “post-modern anti-racism”...
@laertesindeed
4 жыл бұрын
No such thing exists..... you bring your racism with you; there is no system.
@BB-ce5ev
4 жыл бұрын
Just because you give something a name does not mean it exists.
@littleelephant367
4 жыл бұрын
to the above comments ^^ there is a history of redlining, segregation, gerrymandering, underfunded schools, absence of rehabilitation centers, discriminatory practices in medicine (black infant mortality rate is about twice as high for black women) so....yes, systemic racism is very much alive and well
@BB-ce5ev
4 жыл бұрын
@@littleelephant367 where is the proof any of those is caused by racism and not some other mitigating factors such as socioeconomic status or culture etc...
@littleelephant367
4 жыл бұрын
@@BB-ce5ev was segregation a race issue or a culture issue?
@TimJSwan
4 жыл бұрын
What he is saying is really '*modern* anti-racism hurts..' basically, "you're doing it wrong"
@TimothyReeves
4 жыл бұрын
In the talk, he literally said, "modern anti-racism" multiple times.
@BluntforceJ
4 жыл бұрын
@@TimothyReeves the title is a bit misleading
@pamwinkler6788
4 жыл бұрын
So what is right?
@alanhopkins1721
4 жыл бұрын
I think the context remained in your head and got skipped in the expression. I don't understand your point.
@HeraldoftheMEME
4 жыл бұрын
@@alanhopkins1721 you don't understand you're misunderstanding of his point
@RickReasonnz
5 жыл бұрын
Not all heroes wear capes. Anti racism is a smokescreen preventing us from fixing real social concerns.
@graphguy
5 жыл бұрын
As a white guy who is married to a minority I must be honest the more I hear I am racist by default the more I am less likely to cut minorities slack. Professor McWhorter is 100% spot on.
@graphguy
5 жыл бұрын
CJ Fripp I don’t think so and I don’t think it is possible. It is more sublime... they want to do to us what you hear me express. They want to keep a constant distrust in the back of our minds so they can play one against the other and reap the benefits of us being disgruntled.
@Czesnek
5 жыл бұрын
This. I never was a real racists, but after hearing of "white privileges" for years I am starting to be racist more and more. Still, these ignorant fucks will not ruin my view of my favorite black celebrities for me.
@graphguy
5 жыл бұрын
@Snails40 Wow we have an Einstein with us... I live in America, not the cesspool global world.
@jamesowen5702
5 жыл бұрын
Wait a second, he's not giving you a free pass to be less sympathetic to be people who suffer from racism, he's saying you shouldn't pointlessly internalise the problem like it's all your fault.There's a heck of a lot of difference between those two things.
@graphguy
5 жыл бұрын
James Owen I know you are not talking to me. I empathize with anyone subjected to REAL racism, regardless of color. So not sure where you are misdirecting your comment.
@the_jujuman5269
4 жыл бұрын
I definitely think there are issues that have still been implemented from our racist past in our country that show up in several forms in modern society including the black mentality that is still present from the time period. Majority of ppl now aren’t racist or at least not publicly and hey you can’t do anything about that. I think we should be holding politicians responsible and ourselves responsible for our communities.This is changing but not at the rate it needs to. The educated black populations globally and within the states escape, get an education and many do better for themselves but it’s many of the other generations of many of the cultures in America that harbor negativity or instill mentalities. Propaganda is what will divide us. Racism is real yes very real but not extremely rampant I do believe that there are a good amount of racist or heavily prejudice people in power but the system in place isn’t inherently racist. I think Americans are actually melting and becoming unified especially those of us who don’t take the TV and Media as a ruler for measuring the conditions of daily life. Yes a white man being racist to a black man is horrible and staying informed is important but I’m not gonna hate a whole group or seek revenge on someone who looks similar. We as Americans as ppl should call out injustice in all its forms and not based on our desire or bias but basic morality
@Mr._Moderate
4 жыл бұрын
The easy answer is usually the wrong answer 👍
@BM-fz9yc
3 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@vibes1652
5 жыл бұрын
I like that he is willing to re-consider his pre-conceived notions. That is how you develop and grow. There is trancendental ideas that exist outside the domain of our current knowledge.
@josephine190
5 жыл бұрын
isn't this ironic.
@josephine190
5 жыл бұрын
@@vibes1652 again irony flies past these people. there are a ton of you saying the exact same tired words on this comment section. but somehow think you all are special unique freethinkers when all of your ideas come from 17th century racists.
@vibes1652
5 жыл бұрын
@@josephine190 Are you willing to re-consider that all our ideas don't come from 17th century racists. Can you support that claim.
@Player_Review
5 жыл бұрын
Thinking 'outside the box' is increasingly rare in today's dystopian hive mind wrought with polar extremes. If you disagree with something out of respective side's groupthink then you become an entity without a group (exaggerated analogy: a wolf pack dismissing a wolf from the collective). McWhorter, while widely respected by academicians, is on the Left and has taken a lot of flak for not embracing the groupthink programming, so in some ways an exile from both major political parties. Of course, intellectuals such as himself are leaders and not followers, having individualism and a great mind to articulate a thought that is their own; Groupthink is for those too lazy or naive to research objectively and sufficiently enough to form their own opinion. I'm not immune to groupthink, but I know it when I see it, because it is the exact same copy/paste message regurgitated in forums of all kinds, high and low.
@ZekeMan62
4 жыл бұрын
@@josephine190 Another skintellectual runs her fraudulent low IQ mouth and surprise... surprise... stupid comes out.
@valhalla7408
4 жыл бұрын
Now THIS is a “king” ... a black man who commands respect by the power of his intellect and the logic of his compelling arguments - wow!
@BionicLatino
4 жыл бұрын
What bums me out is that this nuanced, reasonable presentation will either be boiled down to "Racism doesn't exist" or "This man is denying racism exists" by people who want to see it as such.
@McEffinHat
4 жыл бұрын
like McWhorter said... to those people it is a religion, and he is speaking their blasphemy
@laertesindeed
4 жыл бұрын
@Chris As I scrolled down past the comments..... what you say is precisely what happened.
@leandrog2785
4 жыл бұрын
@PickingNamesSux It may be becoming worse nowadays, but people have always been predisposed to this mentality. It's human nature, unfortunately.
@BahuschBahusch
4 жыл бұрын
Even though near the end he explicitly states that racism exists and is a problem. But those people won't watch that far.
@jdavi6241
4 жыл бұрын
I suppose that the point is that it's more about class. A stupid number of cops are trained in a culture of fear(I disagree that it's a rogue cop thing, it's a cop culture thing), this leads them to trigger-happy behavior that results in unnecessary killings. Who do they kill? The poor: 4:15 The cops are there to enforce the status quo of the politically powerful, I.E. the rich. If you're poor, Black, White, Native, Whoever. They want to abuse and exploit you all the same, the police are simply one tool of many to do so. "anti-racism hurts black people" is an awful take for this lecture and destroys all nuance. OP describes precisely what this title in a video featuring a black man does to people. Perhaps "identity politics hurt black people" is more accurate, but that's not as clickbaity. The problem with identity politics is that people of all races are convinced to divide themselves along lines of race rather than wealth, splitting unity of the working class. It's extremely detrimental to impoverished people's advancement in society. But it's very useful for a rich person's 'divide and conquer' strategy to have poor white folks align with rich white folks simply for skin color alone, rather than other poor minorities, even though the average poor white person has far more in common with the average poor black person, So rich folk feed the racism narrative, even if they don't genuinely believe in white supremacy, it benefits them to get useful idiots to believe it so they can cut a huge demographic off from itself.
@electronmess
4 жыл бұрын
I've never considered myself to be conservative (I also live in Europe, so there might be a different definition). But right now I find myself being pushed away from some on the left/liberal side and almost being labeled a rightwing for raising too many questions on these issues. I'm so thankful for at least the online world staying somewhat open to discussion and plurality of opinions.
@cornelmasson4610
4 жыл бұрын
I'm in the same boat. I've often thought about this whole thing as a new religion: when you're not even allowed to raise any questions about it. It's sad, and it's not going away soon.
@Mr._Moderate
3 жыл бұрын
You're always allowed to ask questions this isn't North Korea. But if you're stupid people will let you know 👍
@klondikebelridge1996
3 жыл бұрын
It's OK, a lot of people including myself have gone through the same thing the last 5 or 6 years. This woke hysteria and the lefts cynical embrace of it for political benefit has driven a lot of intellectuals out of the Democratic party.
@Mr._Moderate
3 жыл бұрын
@@klondikebelridge1996...and into the bosom of the far right? 🤔
@klondikebelridge1996
3 жыл бұрын
@@Mr._Moderate Thank you for giving a great example of the simple minded binary thinking that I was speaking of. So you either buy into this anti-intellectual woke nonsense or you're far right huh? You are a cult follower. For your sake I hope you're a teenager because having that kind of world view past 25 is the mark of a very immature mindset.
@johnboy7819
5 жыл бұрын
Let's say I am from Switzerland or Montana or someplace that I literally have never even met a black person. Then I move to an area or bigger city that has black people. Wouldn't all this white guilt stuff just make me avoid black people altogether, since I don't really have any personal feelings towards them? Wouldn't all this negative attention, and anti free speech just shut down any conversation on my end altogether? How could any of this possibly help black people?
@capnskiddies
5 жыл бұрын
Yeah I'm from Ireland. Until 1980 there was about 8 black people in the country. There's more now, but more of everyone. Indians, Chinese, Koreans, Japanese, Latvians, Estonians, Croation, Polish, Russians, Africans, Middle Eastern, Turks, South Americans. Not a whole lot of racism, it's there, but it's fairly small fry.
@Mambo9000012
5 жыл бұрын
@@capnskiddies Don't compare EU immigrants to non EU immigrants, its a whole different dimension.
@basedautistic6021
5 жыл бұрын
KZitemr has Thomas Sowell as his profile pic? I'm listening....
@davidwang1637
5 жыл бұрын
2018 Someone: " Common Sense " Morden society: " What a wise person! "
@randymi486
5 жыл бұрын
David Wang knack
@3lit3gn0m3
5 жыл бұрын
More like Someone: "Says something rational and described within a greater context." Modern society: "RACIST BIGOT HOMOPHOBE MISOGYNIST!" KZitem: "he so smart."
@davidwang1637
5 жыл бұрын
@@randymi486 2 baybeeeeee
@stevejordan7275
5 жыл бұрын
@ David Wang I'm betting you meant "Modern" society, not "Morden" society. You can click the vertical ellipsis (three vertical dots to the right of your name when you mouse over the comment) and edit your comment. And I'll delete this comment altogether!
@davidwang1637
5 жыл бұрын
@@stevejordan7275 No, I meant "Morden" because it's way more fashionable than Modern.
@penurious_pepper1957
4 жыл бұрын
This man gives me hope
@igorivanov299
3 жыл бұрын
Too few and far between. People like him will inevitably get drowned out by the mob. Also emotions trump facts in that particular community.
@Mr._Moderate
3 жыл бұрын
@@igorivanov299 your "facts" are actually severe inconsistencies trending quickly in the direction of Inaccurate 👍
@igorivanov299
3 жыл бұрын
@@Mr._Moderate What "facts"? That the black mob drowns out any dissent? That's a fact check true ✔ You can't argue against this. Being an individual with independent thought isn't allowed, lest you get smeared with: "Bed W__ch" for women and "C__n" for the men. And shunned by all. Hive mind mentality: Know your role, stick in your lane, remain on the plantation. Those are the mantras that y'all live by.
@igorivanov299
3 жыл бұрын
@@Mr._Moderate Keep voting democrat. 🗳 👍🏻
@Mr._Moderate
3 жыл бұрын
@@igorivanov299 Please tell me how any of those case comparisons help his argument? I vote open and freely... You can vote RepubliCrat for eternity however
@kimwiser445
4 жыл бұрын
I just watched a video of a black preacher who led marches against police go through use of force training with the police. He ended up being shot in one scenario and shooting a unarmed man in another. He learned that compliance would stop almost everyone of these shootings.
@CraigDeLarge
4 жыл бұрын
Hmmm. I've never heard that to call out the police means not calling out my neighbor. Both need accountability.
@normanleach5427
4 жыл бұрын
...and what that looks like is the conundrum of the unconscious morality of the white community. "Not in my neighborhood." and "Go along to get along." has been the white status quo throughout much of my life. Sure there are culturally 'woke' moments: Identifying with, say, the excellence of a sports figure (Bob Hayes) or the expertise of a scientist or inventor (George Washington Carver) or the dignity of those arm in arm in the Civil Rights Movement (MLK). But where's the spine of fellow citizenship? Political Correctness is more of an attempt to establish an etiquette repeat with public shaming. But to tolerate voter repression? To turn a blind eye on "extra judicious authorities"? Something lulls us to sleep, to avoid confrontational politics, to seek the picket fence or the tall hedge. I suspect the imbalance lies in the excessive emphasis on competition through the profit motive. Initiative and drive are determined solely by market forces, the pains of want and depredation is the material goad of a healthy society? Where's the deep-seated comittment to cooperation? The existential miseries of old age, illness and death are swept aside in favor of religion's opiate. We don't bond in opposition to schemmers and fools, but rather oppose each other for want and opportunism. So, is confrontational politics the answer in every instance or is patience and transition -- of winning over the hearts and minds -- still in play? I suspect that the subtle contextual structures that are sanctified as normalcy are truly suspect once love, yes, honest heartfelt love is the participatory criteria for social discourse and viable political action. "We the People..." (without America's Jim Crow apartheid) have to make our institutions reflect our common rapport or we are doomed to submerge once more in semi-conscious institutional values that are culture bound rather than naturally vibrant.
@CraigDeLarge
4 жыл бұрын
In too many black communities your point is correct and in meant other your are not. The fact is I know blacks that fixate in white accountability and others who are balanced and then others who role the other way. Mr. McWhorter, in my perception, failed to acknowledge this continuum.
@CaptainJeoy
4 жыл бұрын
We need this right now.
@littleme3597
4 жыл бұрын
JUST STOP DOING MOST OF THE CRIMES. SO EASY.
@iambeyondgod8068
4 жыл бұрын
@@littleme3597 lol
@johnviera3884
4 жыл бұрын
This was in 2019. No one listened
@-haclong2366
4 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately nobody is listening now...
@omalone1169
4 жыл бұрын
@@-haclong2366 Jordan Price In terms of the ongoing complaints made about/against females or just the critical commentaries Alongside "blueprint for black power" we have to study "anatomy of female power" . It is about poltiical-economic and socio-sexual but sadly very few black have committed to studying either. Jackie Mayfield and Jim Clingman talk here about black economics: kzitem.info/news/bejne/02ic1o2AiYeWg34 This panel features George Subira Trower who made me aware of SB Fuller and AG Gaston archive.org/details/SubiraSeries He talks of contempt for males which itself is related to economic failures . It is complimented by Tommy Curry and Amos Wilson's blueprint . Listento him alongside this Frank Wilderson breaks down antiblackness kzitem.info/news/bejne/wo-GnKp7sYSjeY4 In my view in order to appreciate economics Males need to study the Red Pill and get Based . Rollo Tomassi structured so much with the rational male enhancing the disruptive male discourse with his deconstruction. Read more: archive.org/details/antifeministiska_202002 archive.org/details/antifeministiskamanifestet2 Above are various links . Patrice O Neil deconstructs female worship kzitem.info/news/bejne/xHyrxa6Ef3ifdmk In one talk there is mention of the book "33 questions about Amerika you are not supposed to ask". It sounds provocative especially the question "Who is SB Fuller?" Definitely need more provocations like this and more magsxines like ENTERPRISE as Ebony and essence aren't enough kzitem.info/news/bejne/xHyrxa6Ef3ifdmk Here are a few more books: Robert Collier "Secret of the Ages" Black Maverick: T.R.M Howard's fight for civil Rights and economic power Black Entrepreneurship in America by Shelley Green, Paul L. Pryde In terms of George Trower-Subira he published: Black Folk's Guide to Business Success (1993)(1986) Getting Black Folks to Sell (1988) Black Folk's Guide to Making Big Money in America (1980) Money Issues in Black Male Female Relationships (1996) His final book brings together all of the above
@sloweddown4567
4 жыл бұрын
2018 actually...
@Mr._Moderate
4 жыл бұрын
@John Viera - because we do our own research and not believe that which makes us comfortable and white supremacy immortal 👍
@Mr._Moderate
4 жыл бұрын
@@-haclong2366 because racism is a problem only whites can fix. Whites don't want to fix it so life goes on ...
@WJames-nq2df
5 жыл бұрын
This guy should go on Joe Rogan, I'd listen to it. And I don't watch JRE often.
@cwr8618
5 жыл бұрын
Why would you want him on a show you don't watch very often? Sounds like a weird statement. Like me saying Kelly Slater should be on Oprah. And I never watch Oprah.
@BillyDHughesDrums
5 жыл бұрын
Weird flex but ok
@patrickmcnelis1372
5 жыл бұрын
@M J Grasscutter joe would add to it what he always adds which is "have you heard about DMT?"
@BillyDHughesDrums
5 жыл бұрын
@M J Grasscutter a bigger and diverse platform. Thats what joe has
@hermitthefrog8951
5 жыл бұрын
For more great intellectual discussion on similar topics by a great black thought leader, watch *Thomas Sowell* videos.
@Pirosbor
5 жыл бұрын
Yes, for me in particular, especially on the inefficacy of affirmative action.
@cwr8618
5 жыл бұрын
@spot light you're a human sellout.
@SonoftheAllfather
5 жыл бұрын
@spot light Maybe he actually believes that, which wouldn't make him a sellout at all. Sowell used to be a Marxist. I think he just had a mea culpa at some point and realized that the vast majority of problems Blacks experience ARE self-created. The reason he and others trivialize White racism is because it is constantly used by apologists as a go-to excuse when Blacks objectively fail as a result of their own poor decisions. When all outcome disparities between one group and another is blamed on racism, it creates a complete lack of accountability in the group that has poorer outcomes. Lack of accountability creates a culture of entitlement, grievance and victimhood. Sowell understands that.
@michaelsorensen7567
5 жыл бұрын
@spot light do you have examples of current actual white racism against blacks that also has negative effect? Because Thomas Sowell, Larry Elder, and Candace Owens all say there isn't any. Also many non-blacks agree with them, but I'm assuming you're of the opinion that "if one isn't black one can't know". May I suggest that most of what you will point to isn't actually based on race. Many people are jerks regardless of color. Many choices that many blacks make screw them and their kids over in ways that whites who make the the same choices ALSO get screwed.
@RubyTwilite
5 жыл бұрын
and Walter Williams! I also have learned from Larry Elder. I'm very impressed by New Generation Conservatives like Brandon Tatum, Jericho Green, Amazing Lucas, they aren't as polished as Dr. McWhorter or have big academic careers, but they have the passion and urgency of youth and are in the trenches in today's political climate.
@amymack1954
5 жыл бұрын
All you have to do is read Heather Mac Donald's book "The War on Cops," which has all the facts and figures.
@amymack1954
5 жыл бұрын
@Mike Knight Unfortunately, the people who need the most to read what she has to say are the very ones who won't. It's just too threatening to them to have their narrative challenged by facts.
@amymack1954
5 жыл бұрын
@Mike Knight Stossel is good, but what I like best about the Reason videos are the ones by Remy. I'm a huge Rush, Mark Steyn and Mark Levin fan, too.
@amymack1954
5 жыл бұрын
@Mike Knight Here you go: kzitem.info/door/PL02D02B9A144182DB Enjoy! He's incredibly smart, libertarian and hilariously funny.
@brianoneill2776
5 жыл бұрын
@@pashadyne correlation does not imply causation
@bigboy2217
5 жыл бұрын
The reason blacks don’t succeed is because their culture is different from white culture and they are in a downwards spiral as liberals continue to perpetuate the unsubstantiated claims that racism is the reason they are not succeeding. Convincing blacks that the racist boogeyman is everywhere makes them hate whites, America, and the idea of being able to “make it” here. I don’t think people like you are malicious by spreading this race baiting bullshit on circumstantial evidence alone, but you are ignorant. I’m not interested in why blacks are doing poorly I’m interested in how to fix the issue. Fix the family, reduce dependency on the government, start businesses in your communities, integrate into the rest of the culture. That’s your fix. We aren’t going to fix the infinitely small number of racists in the country that are contributing to the downfall of blacks. Stop worrying so much about boosting your moral virtue over conservatives and give real fucking solutions you idiot.
@josephshepard2962
4 жыл бұрын
Dr. McWhorter is absolutely brilliant.
@dreadog6425
5 жыл бұрын
Wow, Never heard of this gentleman. Very impressive, please dont be quiet in your message. In these confusing times it is even more important for you to be heard
@maargenbx1454
4 жыл бұрын
I hung on after this guy compared the killing of a 12 year old boy to the killing of a 26 year old man, but he totally lost me with the tired, stupid “what about black on black crime” bullshit. Leaving race out of it (I have no problem with that), when private citizens kill one another, it’s already treated as CRIME. When cops do it, it’s not. That’s the problem! The man says this: “If you’re a good anti- racist then you’re thinking about the cops that kill black men...but you’re not supposed to think about the fact that so much murder happens to these men in their own neighborhood.” Who says you can’t think about both, especially since they’re two different topics! When you think about black on black crime you realize that the police are on it - if they know a black guy murdered someone they don’t need you to tell them to arrest the guy, and the criminal justice system will take care of the rest. If you think about the cops killing people you might just realize that unjustified extrajudicial killings by cops are very rarely punished - they’re not even treated as crimes! You might realize that unlike the case of the black killer, the cop who kills (unjustly) most likely won’t even be arrested unless people literally scream bloody murder. Is this guy suggesting that as long as there’s black on black crime, the question of extrajudicial killings by cops shouldn’t be addressed? When you hear about a cop killing a black guy whose unarmed, restrained, and posing no threat, you’re not supposed to think about that, you should instead think “oh well, that guy was probably gonna get killed by some other black guy anyway” and shrug it off? WTF does one have to do with the other??
@bobbyologun1517
4 жыл бұрын
I almost gave up but I powered though to the end. Did you catch where he called himself white at about 11:34
@winstonsmith7584
4 жыл бұрын
@@bobbyologun1517 No he didn't what the fuck are you on about.
@but_is_it_really
4 жыл бұрын
@@bobbyologun1517 bruh...you a bot? You trying to start shit for no reason? Or just one of those people that like to hear what they want to hear?
@bobbyologun1517
4 жыл бұрын
@@but_is_it_really Excuse me?
@but_is_it_really
4 жыл бұрын
@@bobbyologun1517 there is no excuse for you.
@grantm3332
4 жыл бұрын
My only issue with this lecture is that things like improving the socioeconomic conditions for black communities is a major component of anti-racism. Why does he only look at the least favorable aspects of anti racism while pretending that the benefits of it aren't actually part of antiracism?
@andrewd7316
4 жыл бұрын
^^^ This is the problem with debate in America right now if you ask me. Politicians and the media tend to pick the worst parts of the opposing viewpoint and strawman the shit out of them instead of finding common ground and enacting measurable change.
@wolfumz
4 жыл бұрын
There's one thing the harmful religion of anti racism has done, which is give this boob a career
@Gearyco
4 жыл бұрын
That's actually the opposite of reality. Black people are socioeconomically oppressed specifically because of the "anti-racism" progressive agenda. Thomas Sowell has been making this quite clear since the 80s.
@wolfumz
4 жыл бұрын
@@Gearyco Yeah, Digital Ambition, totally, today's black youth are impoverished because of a legacy of anti-racist, progressive policies. That's what did it. Take a look at an anti-racist, progressive policy like red-lining. Those progressive anti-racists really goofed things up when they denied black Americans access to credit/mortgages, and prevented them from owning property in well into the 1960s. Or, what about the progressive, anti-racist policy to get "tough on crime", and blow up the American prison population? That anti-racist policy that ended up incarcerating huge portions of the black male population, wrecking the convict's economic well-being, tearing their family apart, and consigning them to low pay, unskilled labor for the rest of their life. Don't even get me started on how the progressive, anti-racist policy of segregation set black americans back. I don't get why leftist progressives can't see this?
@SyphaUno
4 жыл бұрын
Digital Ambition you sure it isn’t because of 3 centuries of slavery coupled another century or so with segregation bandaged with welfare?! Followed by a crack/AIDS epidemic? As much as this guy wants to believe all black ppl have the tools to make things happen, there are so many black ppl that suffer from conditions that were caused through a foundation of racism.
@QFGEE
4 жыл бұрын
1.5K dislikes, and not a single sensible counter-argument to be found in the comments section. What does that tell you?
@theo8445
4 жыл бұрын
It is what it is
@IMissChele9
4 жыл бұрын
He stated that police brutality is less caused by racism of cops themselves and moreso the situational result of more blacks in poverty. That doesn’t change structural racism that has existed for black Americans in home buying, workplace advancement, access to education that have documented time and time again. He also doesn’t mention higher rates of arrest in poor black areas, longer jail sentences, or the proportional impact on a smaller group of the population. I understood his argument as a call to focus more on the root problems more than the end result of higher deaths by police.
@sobertowelie3267
4 жыл бұрын
@@IMissChele9 Don't you think these issues might be a result of classism? These problems seem to regularly hit the poor.
@sam-cn8tu
4 жыл бұрын
Sober Towelie race and class are connected of course, but it’s dishonest to conflate the two.
@jahleelwasser8981
4 жыл бұрын
@@sobertowelie3267 racism and classism are intertwined. Especially in this country
@BenX74
5 жыл бұрын
Not caring about black on black violence is a prime example of "bigotry of low expectations"
@cryotimber
5 жыл бұрын
Like when everyone treated that Ahmed kid like a rocket scientist for "inventing" a clock
@rainbowthrustars
5 жыл бұрын
Is it not often just brushed aside with "oh they are poor.. and hence they fight over breadcrumbs" ?? Which might be true in some way. yes poor people have it tougher than someone who is rich in modern day society, that goes without saying, but at the same time I think this is a really devaluing though of poor people as most poor people in the world is not murdering one another, they are not stealing from one another or robbing one another.
@gregorybrian
4 жыл бұрын
Does anyone care about white-on-white crime?
@twolanelife7656
4 жыл бұрын
@@gregorybrian He is addressing that indirectly. He acknowledged earlier that more whites are killed by cops than blacks. One statistic said, but not mentioned here, is that more whites are killed by cops than nearly all other ethnic groups combined. It won't make news on the left controlled media, because it won't stir up the black Democratic voting base. White on white crime doesn't fit the Democratic narrative. Neither does black on black crime. He's long winded, but it is his point nonetheless.
@chantelv3208
4 жыл бұрын
TWOLANELIFE To that point the greater population is Caucasian so there would be an unfortunate higher percentage or actual death rates. And while I do care about black on black crime, in most cases judicial process and justice is served by an arrest being made, being charged and found guilty. The person who committed the crime doesn’t just get fired, or no findings....Whereas in many law enforcement cases or citizens arrest case vs a citizen specifically Black citizen there is not often a charge made without protest and/or arrest being made and/or a finding of guilt vs acquittal despite an obvious wrongdoing. It’s that the judicial process is not always completed in a just way. This is why, I believe people protest the injustice. As you see it is not necessarily because of more deaths but the fact that there are many times consequences are not held to the same standard for taking another citizens life. I hope that all makes sense.
@pablorages1241
4 жыл бұрын
this guy sounds like Thomas Sowell ... he uses facts not feelings
@pablorages1241
4 жыл бұрын
@HKZ P errr no ... facts don't care about your feelings
@pablorages1241
4 жыл бұрын
@HKZ P ... I think you need to go back on the meds
@pablorages1241
4 жыл бұрын
@HKZ P You either didn't watch the video ... or are a troll ...either way you don't sound very bright ...he gives specific examples
@malvolio01
4 жыл бұрын
McWhorter isn't a conservative.
@pablorages1241
4 жыл бұрын
@@malvolio01 ... but his points are still valid and he uses facts ... unlike most libtards
@kathyg1978
5 жыл бұрын
Wish more people would listen to voices of reason, thank you for your wisdom.
@jbh5992
4 жыл бұрын
I remember watching this video a year ago and forgot the professors name.. It’s just taken by 45 minute to try find this video again.. Goes to show how corrupt and bullshit the KZitem algorithm is
@just_another32
4 жыл бұрын
WOW.
@Mr._Moderate
3 жыл бұрын
@@just_another32 I know. This guy and his bikram yoga stretch 🙄
@GiveMeLiberty221
5 жыл бұрын
Where has Mr. McWhorter been these past two years to give some reason to all this madness. I had been missing his honesty and intellect for some time.
@AdultThirdCultureKid1971
5 жыл бұрын
Shepsu Tera Netchebmaa Ikr? We needed him over a decade ago!
@GiveMeLiberty221
5 жыл бұрын
@@AdultThirdCultureKid1971 I first heard some of his great logic and reason about 15 years ago. Lost touch with him. He doesn't fit the lefts narrative although he's a liberal.
@SolDizZo
5 жыл бұрын
This is where I first found him. He disagreed with Jordan Peterson in a QNA about half a year ago. kzitem.info/news/bejne/r5Boy56Fi4dygYY
@randystaley9518
5 жыл бұрын
Blexit. Candace.
@AlP-lw2im
5 жыл бұрын
thank you sir. Reason and intellectual honesty are the only road to a sane society.
@misterman6203
5 жыл бұрын
Now this is a smart man who has what it takes to be a leader and a role model unlike Farrakhan and others like him that actively search for racism where none exists. We need more critical thinkers in our communities instead of race baiting followers that preach hate and divisiveness instead of love and togetherness.
@AdultThirdCultureKid1971
5 жыл бұрын
Mister Man The Muslim community needs a sensible, critical thinking person, too. Actually, we need to think critically about our own behavior.
@greastestever5549
5 жыл бұрын
Jo Jo Lol, more BS
@finished6267
5 жыл бұрын
They know the difference between racism and bias but they exploit their 'base' for political gains
@jimpickens4
5 жыл бұрын
@JUST MUSIC A religion isn't a race, dummy.
@sbshore9064
4 жыл бұрын
My father, born in 1927, was a pioneer in the community college movement in NC; he speaks of how education allowed him to escape poverty and then spent his career striving to give back by promoting education for everyone, black, white, brown. The belief that education is somehow elitist, on both the right and the left, has devastated our country. Heartbreaking.
@inquisitorwhitemane9722
5 жыл бұрын
Wow what a genuinely admirable person. Honest, self-critical, polite and well-reasoned.
@Player_Review
5 жыл бұрын
This is an example of how a message can reach both sides enough for them to listen instead of immediately go into defense mode. He walks the line and acknowledges the realities and perspectives of both sides, presents facts and context, then invites us to attempt seeing things differently. This is common ground, which is not the ground on which the current divide is being debated upon. Working together is how we achieve things, not against one another. McWhorter is a great orator and educator; I greatly respect the few hours I've listened to him speak on this topic as well as linguistics and he always manages to seat things very nicely in context of the time.
@missbritanya327
5 жыл бұрын
How do you conquer? You divide.
@kimberleighrosemusic
4 жыл бұрын
I think he's talking about anti-racism today as surface-level activity that focuses only on the psychology and moral absolution, and not the legislative and systematic approach that deals with the socio-economics of racism. AKA people that think becoming a SJW absolves them of looking at the full picture and participating in the processes. I am seeing both happening simultaneously as a collective thing. Inner work is not tangibly recognized and is often thought to be "enough," when it's only a starting point. It is irrelevant and moot in it's effects but it is required for someone to want to begin the work that does have tangible effects. I hear what he's saying, I hope it doesn't get picked up by active racists and then watered down.
@AshaSelfsDemoFilms
4 жыл бұрын
That's my problem with this speech. He's merely glossing over the history that lead to the situations he's decrying. I can see white folks now - the black fella said black on black crime is the issue. I find his rhetoric irresponsibly in how it's delivered and it weakens his standing for me.
@jnever9768
4 жыл бұрын
nope, you're a bit wrong. even at the 10 min mark, he talks about some socio-economic solutions ie. forced diversity in schools etc. and negative effects of them. but again these things are complicated. he does stress some "socio-political" solutions but doesn't state what he believes would work.
@sgameirojr
4 жыл бұрын
Articulate, concise, and still so much relevant today in June 2020.
@Mr._Moderate
4 жыл бұрын
You forgot "full of bs" 💁♂️
@just_another32
4 жыл бұрын
Now it is relevant in the UK too, sadly.
@CribNotes
4 жыл бұрын
@@Mr._Moderate You don't get it. You're not in the flow of true data.
@Mr._Moderate
4 жыл бұрын
@@CribNotes miscontexualizing stories, misrepresenting facts, and then having the audacity to tie into "anti-racism is bad". What else is there to get? What does your data flow tell you? 🤔
@iotaeta-pi2770
5 жыл бұрын
I think it's a fallacious argument to claim that you can either be concerned about police brutality OR black-on-black crime. Both are important.
@tixanthrope
4 жыл бұрын
Luckily, no one ever claimed that. Thanks for beating the shit out of that straw man for us :D
@puerquitoDeSatanas
4 жыл бұрын
@@tixanthrope I think you missed the video from min 8:55
@aaronjohnson799
4 жыл бұрын
That requires people like Raymond to actually pay attention, which is expecting too much from them.
@dearbrave4183
4 жыл бұрын
But unfortunately what is given a loud speaker is occasional police brutality not to mention that these black men don't go down easy , they shoot the cops , fight with them, verbally abuse them. Basically they resist arrest until the cops are fed up and have to restrain them by force and sometimes shoot back. The only way police brutality can end is if black men criminal behaviour ends as well , calling one out and not the other is hypocritical
@Showmeyourtitties
4 жыл бұрын
His point is not that one is not important at face value. It is that one is a statistically larger risk, and should therefor be treated as such. Not the other way around. You listen to him?
@johnklopping8562
4 жыл бұрын
Really seems like he's critiquing identity politics more than anti-racism.
@kraven4444
4 жыл бұрын
Perhaps, but These things are all in the name of anti-racism.
@alanhopkins1721
4 жыл бұрын
Identity Politics and "Wokeness" are terms that have only come into prominent usage in the past 1-1/2 years.
@businessbuilder92
4 жыл бұрын
Anti-racism is a leading term just used to delineate from civil rights I guess
@SoulTransient
4 жыл бұрын
@@alanhopkins1721 identity politics has been a democratic platfirm since 1780
@dledman
4 жыл бұрын
We need to primarily value the content of the individual; secondarily value the group that person is apart of. We are seeing people now value the group a person is apart of as the primary, and the content of the individual is irrelevant. That's a dangerous social configuration.
@zachrowson1076
4 жыл бұрын
I hope that McWhorter and others can discuss this. I have an issue with McWhorter's casual use of statistics. McWhorter explains that Black men are disproportionately killed by police. He explains this by saying that this is possibly because Blacks are poorer and more likely to be in contact with police. First I have an issue with this. I believe that such a statement should be backed up with some sort of statistic. However, since it seems believable I will accept it. Second, if Black people are in contact with police more, that doesn't fully explain why, as a proportion of population, more Blacks are killed by police than Whites. It could be that in any individual interaction with police a Black person is more likely to die than a White person. This means that if White people were to interact with police at the same level as Blacks they would would still be killed less. Third, a more revealing statistic that McWhorter could have used is a statistic that described the experience of Whites and Blacks, with police, in a similar situation. For instance one could look at traffic infractions involving an unarmed driver. If the driver is Black is he more likely to be killed than if he was White? I write this because I object to McWhorters misuse of statistics to disprove a movement that he claims lacks factual basis.
@skyewulver7294
4 жыл бұрын
Except that poverty is the number one indicator of likelihood of committing a crime. That is backed up by stats. He also said black people are disproportionately by poverty.
@dank_memes_101
4 жыл бұрын
Thing is there isn't proof that blacks are being killed *because* the police are racist, but the more chances you come into contact with the police, the more chances that things could go wrong at one point, that's mathematical. If you roll the dice enough times you'll get the numbers you want.
@zachrowson1076
4 жыл бұрын
@@dank_memes_101 yah that is true. However it is also possible that the chance of a success (a violent interaction occuring) is greater for Blacks. Meaning not only are they interacting more but they are also more likely to get killed in an individual interaction. Like a compounding of probability
@dank_memes_101
4 жыл бұрын
@@zachrowson1076 do you have proof for that?
@Gearyco
4 жыл бұрын
Black people aren't killed at disproportionately higher rates than whites. That's only if you compare police killings with population density, which he mentioned is a debate trick. You have to compare police killings with encounters. More important, specific types of encounters. When you compare killings to encounters, white people are actually killed at a slightly higher rate.
@davewolf8869
4 жыл бұрын
Anti racism is basically telling people "change your opinion because we say so!" That rarely changes peoples opinions. Hate is a powerful and comforting thing. It unifies amd strengthens people. Unfortunately hating people based on skin color alone will always exist. I feel bad for people that ignorant. They're missing out on knowing some pretty cool people of all colors and religions etc.
@fenderbender1296
4 жыл бұрын
I agree that hatred can unify people for a time but then it becomes a burden much like constant fear or other negative emotions.
@robertwilson7778
4 жыл бұрын
It seems to me that if you’re a black man and your biggest problem in life is to some how force me(a white man)to suddenly understand (according to you)that because of My skin colour I am inherently evil and I’m responsible somehow for everything that’s gone wrong in your life, even though we’ve never met. So if I don’t care about race(anybody’s race) I just don’t think about it,don’t care. So if you’re success depends on me changing my way of thinking, are you not putting yourself in bondage? Why would you give anyone that kind of power?
@jaydeecee1643
4 жыл бұрын
Yes it's a continuation of their own slavery! Imagine if that was the discussion being front and center now instead of this BS!
@alexlindstrom555
4 жыл бұрын
I get that impression from other white people too...there’s a book about it too...about how we’re all racist just on the basis of being white...
@mjones4083
4 жыл бұрын
People who want special privilege will be deaf to these facts .
@Hatrimn
4 жыл бұрын
This is clearly a man that is an independent critical thinker and doesn't belong to the emotional reactionary monolith.
@kelkabot
4 жыл бұрын
I think the word you want is "reactive." "Reactionary" means conservative to the point of being hostile to new ideas.
@ZALESANDDESTROY
4 жыл бұрын
Holding at-risk youth to the same standards as law enforcement is backwards.
@DouglasMarques
4 жыл бұрын
Is he's trying to say that the higher proportion of blacks killed by the police is a fact of life and we should move on? He agrees with the fact that, proportionally, more blacks are killed by cops than whites (although numerically more whites are). But then he says it can't be racial bias. And instead of explaining why there's no bias, he tries to attack the anti-racists. In his words, this "crowd" prefers to use absolute numbers when comparing the number of whites and blacks on welfare (to make the blacks look better), but they prefer to use proportion when talking about police violence (also to make blacks look better). That's an obvious fallacy: it doesn't erase the facts and it doesn't explain anything. It reminds me of the "Chewbacca Defense" of South Park (don't look there, look here!). Then he creates a strawman of the anti-racist movement with his "it is a religion!", just to dismiss it. In the end he himself draws a fake mustache and horns on a picture representing anti-racism and says: see how ugly it is? Mr. McWhorter, I've read many of your books and I know you can do much better than that. Just don't mislead your audience, please!
@MRZPRODGITY
4 жыл бұрын
(This is not me trying to argue with you, but just explaining a point he made in the video) He connected the disproportionate killing of African Americans to the increased poverty rate in black communities cause by systemic oppression. His claim is that African Americans are more likely to have violent encounters with the police because they’re more likely to live in low income communities, which historically have more policing. More policing leading to more encounters leading to a higher likelihood of violence. So he acknowledged that police are sadly inclined to excessive violence, even in the case of white people, but he’s saying the disproportion if African Americans suffering this violence is more explicitly connected to poverty than underlying bias. I feel like both poverty and underlying racial biases play a hand in this disproportionate statistic, but it’s much harder to find concrete evidence since it’s hard to get the honest mindset of these officers in court. I hope this helps!
@theJACKHAMMER13
4 жыл бұрын
@@MRZPRODGITY So black people have more encounters with the police because they are poorer due to systemic oppression meaning... they are racially profiled. It doesn't do away with the fact that they are in that position due to systemic oppression, it just explains that that's the cause. Basically, it's claiming there's a fallacy by explaining how it is actually the truth. This is standard gish galloping, overwhelm the senses and claim something in an authoritative way so that it sounds intelligent. In this entire argument, notice how there are no solutions put forth, either. It's "you're doing it wrong, and that's harmful" not "here's how to improve your arguments." Once again, a standard tactic of a pseudo-intellectual passing off their word salad as knowledge. The next part isn't directed at you, I just got on a rant and felt it needed to be shared here for anyone who may see it. Furthermore, the point about welfare recipients lacks literally all context. People use number of white recipients in their arguments because people associate the programs with black people when trying to cut them, which is racist and to get anyone to oppose it, it has to be tied back to white people. The same could and probably should be done with police violence to get faster reforms. However, what McHorter doesn't mention in his references is that Shaver wasn't a boy (he was 26) with a toy gun playing on the streets, he was aiming it out of a hotel window (his death was tragic and the video of his death is absolutely horrible; he didn't deserve his death, but to equate his case to a 12 year old does both a disservice); Andrew Thomas was not running because of a routine stop on an expired license, he was exiting an overturned truck due to drunken driving (again, does both a disservice to call it the "same thing" when they are very different stories, though his death was again needless); Dylan Noble was able to exit his car, reach for his waistband, walk around and towards the officer and then tell them he basically wanted to end his life because it wasn't worth living (suicide by cop 101), Philando Castile (not Alton Sterling, which brings McHorter's entire character into question since these events were completely different styles of police murder which someone as learned as McWhorter should have down) mentioned (as he is legally obligated to do) he had a gun in his car and was shot 7 times after merely 2 warnings. These very different situations he claimed were the same are misleading and frankly unfair to all the victims involved in each case, but they do not show equivalent cases. In all of them, the charge was LWB (living while black) for the black victims and the charge for the white people was a slew of scenarios where they put themselves in dangerous positions. In none of the cases did anyone deserve to die, and let's not distract ourselves from the issue that is police misuse of power (which is why black on black crime is irrelevant in this scenario because it's a different topic altogether) which negatively impacts everyone, but especially black people who are profiled purely by the color of their skin. That said, though, his 3 examples all fall short of an intellectually honest conversation and destroy any point he makes from then out because he's operating on false premises. Sure, white guilt doesn't help anyone and it's super ineffectual at gaining support. That's a fair point and one that makes sense in his argument. But to claim that anti-racism is a religion is to dismiss things he doesn't like as cult behavior without addressing more effective means of combating racism. Systemic oppression exists, black people are profiled by police (stop and frisk being a prime example), many black people's deaths in these mainstream scenarios are not due to any fault of their own, and we need to realize this when having these discussions. Edit: Fixed an accidental strike out when using hyphens by putting the phrase in parentheses.
@MRZPRODGITY
4 жыл бұрын
theJACKHAMMER13 I agree. I also thought it was odd that he would mention that the disproportionate amount of black poverty was caused by systemic racism... but then didn’t explain the argument that leads to his conclusion that the disproportionate police brutality towards African Americans is not a product of racism (even though he explicitly stated that it was??). And thank you for the information on the white killings he mentioned! These were cases I wasn’t familiar with but since they weren’t as well known he easily used them to mislead his audience. I enjoyed your analysis.
@khadorstrong
4 жыл бұрын
"why are we to focus on the occasional rogue cop, who kills a black man, when nine times out of ten, that black man is in much more danger of being killed by another black man, in his neighborhood" A few reasons 1. We expect a portion of our society to be criminals, it's why we have criminal justice, prisons, jails, ete. We expect ZERO percent of our cops to be criminals or act in a criminal way 2. That black man, who shoots the said black man, LIKELY will be charged with a crime and likely go to prison for said crime. In the opposite it's unlikely the cop will even be charged.
@joshuatownsend8241
4 жыл бұрын
I like this response, but also believe we can focus on both.
@khadorstrong
4 жыл бұрын
@@joshuatownsend8241 We should. I think it's also important to remember that we PAY a police officers salary to police us. They're paid by our tax dollars.
@ASchell90
4 жыл бұрын
You are missing the point or failed to make yours adequately. We should be concerned about both but the fact that we are focused more on the cops rather than the black men that kill other black men is an issue. Which is objectively more detrimental to the black community?
@rachelrasmussen1101
4 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure that's necessarily true. I read something about how areas where police are properly funded will have far more arrests for violent offenses and far less for minor crimes like drug offenses and petty theft. Underfunded police stations tend to have more petty charges and less violent crime arrests because they are more taxing on the limited resources of the system. If they are called to arrest a guy who is pummeling someone and he happens to have drugs on him, they'll just go for a drug charge. As for the cop being charged- that depends on if he broke the law. While we expect a portion of our society to be criminals, we also expect criminals to act like criminals and if a cop is being asked to protect us from them, then they need a certain amount of allowance in that endeavor. Not unlawful allowance. But by and large, cops shouldn't be held to an unreasonable standard
@kovenmaitreya7184
4 жыл бұрын
Abso-fucking-lutely! We're literally funding cops for many of them to turn around and shoot at medical personnel and reporters. Crazy!
@Eclispestar
5 жыл бұрын
#1 put dad's back in the black household. #2 make welfare like unemployment " temporary". #3 get government out of schools, and allocate funds based on a schools needs not test scores. #4 end the war on drugs. #5 stop outsourcing jobs to Asia. Or make it so easy and cheep to start a business here. Also have low commercial taxes and rent for small family business.
@RubyTwilite
5 жыл бұрын
If there are lower commercial taxes people like AOC shriek that Amazon is getting away with murder which diverts attention from the small business owners. You are 100% correct with everything you say.
@SnootchieBootchies27
5 жыл бұрын
Yeah I can completely get behind all of your plans. I think you're onto something
@pantherman8719
5 жыл бұрын
The American dream is now foreign.
@Steampunk_Kak
5 жыл бұрын
What do you consider welfare though? Do you consider disability welfare?
@user-xn3cb4wb8z
5 жыл бұрын
Amen.
@juststuff01
4 жыл бұрын
A friend refused to watch this video calling him "problematic".
@AN-jw2oe
4 жыл бұрын
That is reveals that too many people nowadays choose to be intellectually dishonest in order to reinforce their “rightness,” even if they don’t realize it. Sorry to hear that. Maybe if you ask questions about why they are not willing to listen to “problematic people,” if they are intelligent and discerning enough to be able to point out all the holes in the “problematic” person’s argument? If they just don’t want to, they should be made aware that they are just choosing to be intellectually lazy or intellectually dishonest, or both.
@nickssmirkingrevenge
3 жыл бұрын
'Problematic' for your friend's flawed ideological argument.
@Mr._Moderate
3 жыл бұрын
@@nickssmirkingrevenge actually the friend got it right. You on the other hand... 🤔
@Mr._Moderate
3 жыл бұрын
@@AN-jw2oe or maybe they are tired of problematic people? 🤔 Since the friend knows McWhorter is full of it that means she/he listened to McWhorter before 👍
@juststuff01
3 жыл бұрын
@@Mr._Moderate How is he full if it? Literally curious to hear how so. I have an open mind.
@BWater-yq3jx
5 жыл бұрын
13:17 "An inwardly focused quest for moral absolution, that has at best a diagonal relationship to helping people who've been left behind." Couldn't have said it better myself!
@markgordon2660
5 жыл бұрын
I'm glad to see a black guy who's not in the trap man love it
@davidr9876
5 жыл бұрын
This needs to go viral. This perspective needs to be shared. The truth is eye opening.
@m5Yb7Ds
3 жыл бұрын
I really hope you're not being blocked by KZitem. You're talks are enlightening.
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