"Beirut/Beijing." "Namaste." "Just because you're in China doesn't mean you have to fly upside down." No one can beat GR for amazing dialogue. 😂
@mauricehinton5889
Жыл бұрын
When you do the tactical version of this simulation, keep in mind that before the Chinese would not initially commit their air forces, they'd most likely use a large number of long range surface to surface missiles to try and catch most of the Taiwanese air force on the ground, which would also suck up some of Taiwan's Patriot SAMs for missile defense.
@hughmungus2760
Жыл бұрын
does the game model MRLS rockets? and does air defense attempt to stop them? Because thats whats going to be shot at taiwan in the opening slavo. but if they can't be targetted then its an instant win for china.
@msytdc1577
Жыл бұрын
@@hughmungus2760 no one is discounting China's ability to heavily damage the island, but that's not their goal, and their goal requires moving a million or more infantry across a sea, and that they are not capable of doing, so, no, China ain't winning shit.
@paulsu8749
Жыл бұрын
This is basically a PR job. It’s not about reality.
@Davros-vi4qg
Жыл бұрын
GR have sim’s long range ballistic missiles. Think the range is a little long for MRLS systems.
@hughmungus2760
Жыл бұрын
@@Davros-vi4qg Typical MLRS might not reach but china has specialised 370mm systems that are purpose designed to hit taiwan. Basically supersized HIMARs
@msytdc1577
Жыл бұрын
And that's why F-35 has been chosen by every country allowed to purchase them, and why the AIM 260 is being rushed into service, real game changers. I'd like to see how F-15s contribute by having better missile launch parameters (high altitude Mach 2.5), and by baiting and then outrunning long range PL-15 launches, leaving the F-35s able to pursue the defensive and largely defenseless Chinese fighters busily trying to return to friendly SAM cover.
@BV-fr8bf
Жыл бұрын
Some data on the F15-EX and role posted yesterday: kzitem.info/news/bejne/15iFqGuBpZSUjX4
@gregbrown3764
Жыл бұрын
The real winner, is going to be F35's running slick, just bird dogging for F15EX's loaded to the max with 260's.
@stupidburp
Жыл бұрын
F-15EX also can support with powerful radars and electronic warfare systems that F-35 can’t because of smaller radars and restricted emissions to maintain stealth. In some cases it could be the F-15EX spotting for F-35 missile launches.
@robjohnson5872
Жыл бұрын
@@gregbrown3764 Pretty much my thoughts too. I'm not sure if the Datalink with the planes is properly functioning in DSC, but a slow travelling F-35 can sure shovel information to missile tank F-15, F-18, F-16 - whatever. And well prepared to defend themselves too. Just disappointed the AIM260 seems to be relatively easy to defeat with notching, and a pretty low efficiency against worthy advisories.
@hughmungus2760
Жыл бұрын
I feel china is going to invest alot more in sacrificial drones and decoys as a stopgap,
@tomamor8330
Жыл бұрын
Great effort GR. So much effort must go into these videos - thank you. Looking forward to the next big naval battle.
@tomamor8330
Жыл бұрын
@@Glassboxgames I'll let Cap be the judge of that
@oladiedoo50
Жыл бұрын
@@Glassboxgames they are setup weeks or even months earlier release
@dpwellman
Жыл бұрын
That F-35 going in to Tbag the "Chinese" AFB, has been one of the more hilarious things I've seen as late.
@ryanpayne7707
Жыл бұрын
One thing to remember about core game aircraft: the devs have to pay licensing fees and obtain permission from the IRL manufacturers to publish the modules. Something tells me they;re being blocked by their IRL customers from allowing the devs to do so.
@kurtreichenbach8927
Жыл бұрын
Looks like the thing on the J-20 is "A-Star’s EOTS-86 Electro-optical and sensor system" from what i can find on the interwebs.
@grimreapers
Жыл бұрын
thx
@that_ed
Жыл бұрын
The cat window is for the EOTS. Quote Lockheed Martin: The Electro-Optical Targeting System (EOTS) is the world’s first sensor that combines forward-looking infrared (FLIR) and infrared search and track (IRST) functionality. As an affordable, high-performance, lightweight, multi-function system, EOTS provides precision air-to-air and air-to-surface targeting capability in a compact package
@therealdebater
Жыл бұрын
32:40 It's the cupola holding the optics which make the 'glass cockpit' possible. The pilot gets a picture in his helmet-mounted display, enabling him (or her) to see 'through' the aircraft. Pilots can see in all directions, a huge advantage in many situations. Additionally, the optics support infra-red and telescopic views.
@Utubesuperstar
Жыл бұрын
That’s not what a glass cockpit is. The actual definition in aviation is having displays instead of steam for instance a g1000 in a Cessna is a glass cockpit
@therealdebater
Жыл бұрын
@@Utubesuperstar My apologies, you're quite right. The literature refers to 'Helmet Mounted Display System' and a 'look-through-aircraft' function for the Gen III helmet used with the F-35.
@cassiespencer6134
Жыл бұрын
@@Utubesuperstar Indeed and it's much better than having to continuously scan individual 'steam gauges'. Even better is the helmet mounted cueing system, or HMCS which allows one to see primary flight instruments while at the same time looking at a ground target or another acft for example.
@Mobius118
Жыл бұрын
Nonsense, it most definitely is for my cat… she fits perfectly in there and makes a fine copilot
@wency101
Жыл бұрын
As a “super-bug” mechanic, watching that human pilot flying upside down gave me crazy anxiety due to the stress maintenance inspection we have to do after flight. 😂😂😂 Great video tho. “Tonight, we ride!”
@msytdc1577
Жыл бұрын
When aircraft are rated for 2-5 negative G maneuvering it seems that they should be capable of only -1 G for such a limited amount of time without requiring special inspections...
@chrisfloyd1572
Жыл бұрын
@@msytdc1577 Ha! should be, but then the US military shows up with a manual
@christophero55
Жыл бұрын
When an aircraft is destroyed does the money counter include the cost of the armament it is carrying or just the airframe? Every missile fired is counted. I just saw a J-15B with 8 PL-15s on its stations go down. Seems like those missiles should be counted too.
@greggall205
Жыл бұрын
I love the humour in these videos. It's why I watch them. I like Cap too. Been through a lot. I have a terminal illness and these videos brighten my days. Thank you GR.
@charlienash1050
Жыл бұрын
Fantastic video, that was one intense battle. The tide of battle really changed when the Americans got introduced to the fight. You know I do have an idea. You've done all of these long range missile mods, can I suggest one too? How about the Iranian Fakour-90s? They're domestically made versions of Pheonixes for the F-14s and allegedly they should have some longer range and a bit better tracking. It would make for a fun addition honestly. Not to mention Iranian F-14s were upgraded with PESA radars so they could even be included into your war games.
@Barefoot433
Жыл бұрын
Isn't Iran just about pulling apart their last few junked F-14s to service the remaining.... what, 2? 3?
@charlienash1050
Жыл бұрын
@@Barefoot433 true and false. There certainly aren't 40 fully operational F-14s but there are at least 20 or so. It's a common misconception but Iran has been doing hard work to maintain and repair those air frames, as they regularly take up to the skies for training and patrolling. I can tell you myself because I've been to Isfahan and have seen definitely more than just 2 or 3 air frames take flight. They're quite recognisable from the sky, you can't mistake it for anything else. And iranian missile development is quite capable on its own as well. It does take some design aspects from Chinese and Russian missiles but there have been developed quite a few fully domestic missiles as well, including the Fakour 90.
@Anstras1_431
Жыл бұрын
Please run the full simulation with all branches. It will be long but it will be worth it
@gregbrown3764
Жыл бұрын
The question becomes, can the servers handle it. And that is ANYTHING but a sure thing.
@A_Haunted_Pancake
Жыл бұрын
@@gregbrown3764 Also: Can Cap handle it ? 😆 I just imagined him after trying to set up a complete invasion of a Country 😵💫, 🤣
@jamesinson3488
Жыл бұрын
He should also include all under the sea bed tunnels running from China to Taiwan which China has built in secret over the past 7 decades lol
@anomalyp8584
Жыл бұрын
I love these expositions for those who are not in the know. It might be repetitive for you to explain, but it's enormously informative for us newbs...the fate of a teacher i guess
@ajstyles5704
Жыл бұрын
Huh? You do know that China isn't Russia? They don't operate with transparency, majority of China forces are literally assumptions, no one ever even seen their changes in real life, all in simulations and small situations against India. What they carry, their yields, their barrels size, which guns they using on their mig21 bison, which artillery are they using? Russians? Mock Russians? The amount of missiles, AAs, Nuclear and Thermo nukes, they are all based on assumptions. What they can't hide, are only 4 things, the amount of soldiers(based on fixed salaries, also don't think they are weak, China won multiple special forces competition, no one sent their best, but that also means their regulars are better than the rest), their tanks numbers(because its their largest quantity to hide so its loose data), their big ships(can't hide it), and 4th their budget(because they need to show, yes we have lots of it). We don't know their condition and he predicts most of US and Taiwan are near perfect in all condition. It doesn't matter, the only thing you need to know, can US land on Taiwan or not, that's it, if US can land on Taiwan they can launch and counter China effectively, the answer is, they can't, the amount of missiles China can volley it will hit half of Taiwan without precision targeting, only calculated trajectories. That doesnt include their bombers, artilleries, ships and amphibious vehicles. If China goes to war against Taiwan, no one can do anything about it. Its best US pulls away from Taiwan as China has deemed it as a threat and disaster only waiting to happen like the rest of the world has faced. And unfortunately to China, its only a matter of time until its their turn. China and Russia had over 7700 negotiation over border disputes, for some reason the rest can't even negotiate.
@anomalyp8584
Жыл бұрын
@@ajstyles5704 what are you on about
@ajstyles5704
Жыл бұрын
@@anomalyp8584 put your video games, movies, fictions reality in your dreams and fantasies. Learn that propaganda benefits one side, it ain't neutral. One side says this, the other this, and the neutral says, the data we have on China, 70% of if are assumptions. The same way we say we know what US have, but we don't know what's hidden. The problem is, China operates the same as Switzerland, we oknow they have 250k+ soldiers, but their gears are based on assumptions. We know what they put outside, we have no idea what they have inside, the same as Iran. Russia tried to play nice and be as transparent as possible. That's why we are not afraid of them.
@anomalyp8584
Жыл бұрын
@@ajstyles5704 dude, I just said it was good he told us about the weapon systems and how everything works. You assumed the rest.
@Mobius118
Жыл бұрын
An excellent point that I’m glad someone mentioned
@mfreed40k
Жыл бұрын
Love the radar updates, really changes the game.
@christophero55
Жыл бұрын
32:34 J-20 with cat buddy seat= my new favorite fighter. 😁
@dougaltman6398
Жыл бұрын
It's true about the national guard. I was a deputy during Katrina. The NG had M16s and were told to keep their mag in their pocket. I told the guy riding with me I didn't care about what they were told and load it. They were each given 10 rounds.
@chrisstopher2277
Жыл бұрын
I was deployed with a guy who was in the NG in New Orleans during Katrina and he told me that it was shoot on site if he saw people looting not sure how accurate that was. I was the new guy so maybe he was blowing smoke.
@bumfarto2019
Жыл бұрын
You were gonna shoot American citizens? After a natural disaster?
@johnwinter2252
Жыл бұрын
@@chrisstopher2277 That's why Kanye famously said "Bush is killing black people". Apparently, some weren't even looters and were families moving their things. Gunned down. With 0 repercussions to this day.
@chrisstopher2277
Жыл бұрын
@John Winter people were doing horrible things. He said Katrina was worse than Afghanistan.
@johnwinter2252
Жыл бұрын
@@chrisstopher2277 I understand plenty of bad people were taking advantage of the situation but innocent people ultimately got caught up in the mix as well. That's what happened when martial law is essentially declared.
@dreamhunter2973
Жыл бұрын
Good one Cap....!!! Now can you even broaden this scenario by using the Naval assets of Both sides....
@gregbrown3764
Жыл бұрын
They did a 4 or 5 part evolving battle already. First couple videos of the Wargames playlist I think.
@Archer89201
Жыл бұрын
How about a similiar scenario but with an opening Chinese Salvo of ballistic and cruise missiles followed by massive air and naval battle if the server can handle it. Also if the Chinese get a fully intact F-35 they would call it a win
@ryanpayne7707
Жыл бұрын
If these are F-35Bs, they're flown by the Marines. I think the one F-35 pilot has elected to go the "every Marine is a rifleman" route, land in China, and secure his own fuel for the flight back. I wouldn't say he has a particularly bad chance of success. LOL
@Utubesuperstar
Жыл бұрын
Yeah he took 100 prisoners with only his m18 stole a bunch of data made them duct tape pl15’s to the wings and flew home
@christiananderson1419
Жыл бұрын
I think Ford 32 wanted to get the ATC with his sidearm or something.
@grimreapers
Жыл бұрын
agree
@samuel5916
Жыл бұрын
I wish everyone would call out “Bird Strike” every-time they shoot down Bird. If you’re a pilot or mechanic you’ll appreciate the pun. 😂
@Operator713
Жыл бұрын
Does the money counter include all the stored missiles on a plane when the plane goes down?
@Firedad376
Жыл бұрын
No
@claytonhatfield1827
Жыл бұрын
The little glass case under the new planes are the cameras they use for reconnaissance or targeting. They can see so far.
@cassiespencer6134
Жыл бұрын
In essence, yes. It's part of the electro-optical targeting system or EOTS.
@racg123
Жыл бұрын
like EOTS?
@bacco0447
Жыл бұрын
I think the thing under the J20's nose is the IRST but im not sure
@msytdc1577
Жыл бұрын
Correct, same positioning and prismatic low observability shape as the F-35s IRST.
@Utubesuperstar
Жыл бұрын
@@msytdc1577 almost like they tried to steal and copy the design
@92HazelMocha
Жыл бұрын
@@Utubesuperstar Uh they did steal and copy the design, about 10 years ago.
@GiGaWattMan
Жыл бұрын
that glass pod thing at the bottom of the J20 and also the F35 is the fusion sensor electro optical and IR sensor also with laser and Electronic warfare and spy surveillance pod. so it doesnt have to carry them all separately like 4th gen with targeting and image pods
@bearcatracing007
Жыл бұрын
Hi valued Super Cap
@grimreapers
Жыл бұрын
Hi x
@Sixgun
Жыл бұрын
The little glass window thing under the F-35's nose allows the pilot to see "under" the jet. I have a buddy at the plant in Florida and that's all he does.
@Utubesuperstar
Жыл бұрын
It’s an irst sensor
@jesterthezombie9597
Жыл бұрын
If operating from the 7th Fleet, the Super Hornets could have been supported by a small flight of Growlers and that would have messed up the targeting of the J-20s and resulted in less (or no) Super Hornet losses. It’s a real pity there’s no way to implement Growlers in game. They’re incredible technology.
@lordsqueak
Жыл бұрын
Suggestion for a video series ... Invitational league war games In short, you have a scenario. You invite a team a try and win it. (against AI) That's the preliminaries. In the finals, you set team versus team, but they get to place their defenses. So in short, it's not just going to be an offensive game, but something that involves all kinds of systems. planes, boats, sams, tanks and maybe a few cows. Surely it has been thought of before,, but I would be curious if it might now actually be possible to pull off? The simulation has become better, the servers can handle more, and you have the ability to edit not just scenarios, but weapons systems as well, AND your commentary is top notch!
@odinisgod4577
Жыл бұрын
thats a 360 camera for full visuals meaning like the f35 you fan see though the plane to whats around or below you
@henrygibson9613
Жыл бұрын
Great Video, full fidelity battle will be awesome in the future!
@LT_Cobra270
Жыл бұрын
Great video I greatly enjoyed this one and many others! It peaks my interest when you do China vs USA.
@BobH809
Жыл бұрын
Do I see Cylon Raiders on the dirt, at the end of the runway where the J-20's are taking off? Eight of them in a nice little line.
@51515123
Жыл бұрын
George say a thing.."I'm upside down". 🤣 Well done 👍 guys!💯
@brianpreece4410
Жыл бұрын
Cap I'm wondering what your thoughts are on the British Tempest project. Love the videos, keep up the great work
@grimreapers
Жыл бұрын
Not entirely convinced it's ever going into production but hope to be wrong!
@brianpreece4410
Жыл бұрын
@@grimreapers I think the teaming with Japan will help the program actually produce the system. The Japanese and British have very similar needs for the jet itself and both nations have powerful defense industries. Interesting times ahead. for sure
@veryyes8561
Жыл бұрын
32:34 on the F-35 it’s the electro-optical targeting system. I guess it’s something similar for the J-20?
@GryphonArmorer
Жыл бұрын
The little class house under the F35’s nose is how the pilot can see and target through the bottom of the aircraft.
@hughmungus2760
Жыл бұрын
One big factor thats not being properly modelled is that in ranges of under 50nm. IRSTs become far more relevant, to the point where radars are superceded. Especially when AI is being dumb and flying around on full afterburner. In theory the J20 and F35s should see each other the their EOTS (cat cockpits) long before they see each other on radar and slave their missiles to guide on that instead.
@harrisongilbert
Жыл бұрын
Cap, make sure for the real fight you set all the bases in China to be red. It will prevent the Blues from landing there.
@jefftodd6384
Жыл бұрын
My guess on the underneath of the F 35 is a Camera pod. In another video it stated you could see through the plane by use of camera's on the outside of the aircraft.
@madaxe606
Жыл бұрын
Looking forward to these sorts of experiments whenever we get the Kola map. Here's hoping for a peak USSR vs NATO matchup circa 1975-1980ish.
@tomomar123
Жыл бұрын
I love being a valley’d viewer. These are my faves.
@nuba16can
Жыл бұрын
Just a question from watching the aim-260. Why have a two piece missile that separates so early and has to glide most of the way on the smaller booster? Would it not travel most of the way in one piece, then split with a huge burst of speed in the terminal phase? I might be wrong but hope someone has some answers and thanks for the amazing content!
@msytdc1577
Жыл бұрын
Nearly all missiles use only solid rocket motors that burn very strongly for only a short time and then the missile relies on its existing kinetic energy to both travel distance and to maneuver. That is why missiles can be defeated by aircraft changing directions, reducing altitude to the thicker more resistive air down low, and by flying away from the missile. A two stage rocket missile, or a ramjet missile with rocket booster are both designed to either increase range (liquid fuels are more energy dense than solid rocket fuel), or to allow for maintaining or bursting speed in the terminal phase to make the missile be in a higher energy state than it's target, as it is already more agile than a plane, it's just needs to be fast as well. As far as why boosters are jettisoned as soon as possible, it's all due to gravity losses. If the missile weighs more it experiences more acceleration towards the ground, which must be compensated for by having increased lift, and to gain lift you have to trade away speed. The lower your speed the less distance you can travel, and the less energy you have to maneuver when you get to your target.
@robjohnson5872
Жыл бұрын
@@msytdc1577 Wow - very well done. I learned a lot. Thanks.
@stupidburp
Жыл бұрын
Dropping mass early seems better. Also, it is possible to have an extra stage within a missile body to give an energy boost in terminal phase.
@黃濬凱
Жыл бұрын
You should use mirge-200-5 too replace the f-5e Because f-5 know be use as a training jet not the combat jet right know
@benelgar-white1174
Жыл бұрын
$150M for a J20 seems high, I can find estimates from $30m up to $120M but even $120M seems high and might be including the cost of development which the F35 cost per unit doesn't usually account for.
@hughmungus2760
Жыл бұрын
initial production rates probably, but now that the J20 is in mass production the price per unit is coming down just like the F35
@stupidburp
Жыл бұрын
PLA cost accounting is complicated and opaque. They do a lot of shell games with funds on the industrial side.
@jamison884
Жыл бұрын
Re: your closing comment at the very end. Yes, I did enjoy that, thank you. And yes, I also look forward to seeing a bigger one soon.
@Pwarch
Жыл бұрын
Pretty sure that cage on bottom of J20 is EOTS 86. Their sensor array for detecting stealth.
@davidrachelho
Жыл бұрын
The us carrier is too close to the mainland, it is not possible to take that risk. The safe distance is at least 2500km from mainland.
@Gman-109
Жыл бұрын
You Ess Eh! You Ess Eh! You Ess eh! You should run this again but with F22s as well, and maybe some F15EXs too.
@damainhe9653
Жыл бұрын
The serial number of J20 that has been observed so far is CB07156. According to the previous rules, China should have more than 200 J20s. Also, please consider their huge early warning aircraft system. In short, a very good video.
@stupidburp
Жыл бұрын
China recently expanded factories building J-20 and Flankers. They also built a new factory in Southern China and are moving J-10 production to there. Seems like they are building lots of everything, not just J-20.
@ooxx201
Жыл бұрын
@@stupidburp no, they just move J-10 production to another company (guizhou), thus chengdu can focus on J-20 production. guizhou is a smaller company, it cannot develop new advanced fighters, but just taking over the production of the J-10 should be fine. now the situation is: chengdu: J-20 shenyang: J-16 and J-35 guizhou: J-10
@BilalAfsar
Жыл бұрын
Why is the J20 nerfed with luneberg lens?
@EmmettDia
Жыл бұрын
You gave the Americans aim260 why not give the Chinese their modern SAM that they would actually use? Not to mention a Cold War AWACS This isn’t realistic or remotely simulating what would happen at all
@morrischen5777
Жыл бұрын
A bit more detail of Taiwanese F-16, 140 of them are F-16AM/BM, which is a variant with F-16A block 20 airframe, F-100-PW-220 engine, no conformal fuel tank and upgraded with AESA radar. 66 of the other will be F-16V block 72 planned to deliver in 2026. Still not sure if them come with conformal fuel tank.
@grimreapers
Жыл бұрын
thx
@Miata822
Жыл бұрын
Interesting in light of the new CSIS study, which I haven't read yet, but reports say Taiwanese planes would be destroyed on the ground through missile strikes. Yikes!
@lonurad1259
Жыл бұрын
what nation doesn't overblow their stats. Like when the US tried to deny the fact they lost 11 abrams in desert storm.
@stupidburp
Жыл бұрын
None of them were lost to enemy fire
@scrapiron1525
Жыл бұрын
I really enjoy your simulated encounters with all the details. A+ from me. now the But... But these definitely have to be taken with a grain of salt. The DC simulator is just an estimator based on what the authors know and think they know. There is plenty of unknowns that are best guesses or simply ignored as not existing (as they are unknowns). Frist, US and NATO understate capabilities and our rivals love to intimated by normally (not always) overstating acknowledged capabilities. I have many questions especially about how DC is modeling things both on radars and EW jamming that they do. I literally have worked on designing many of the systems being simulated. 40 years First of all, jammers (all Highly classified) are being modeled to be very weak from what I can tell and radars are not being impacted by lookdown ground clutter sufficiently etc... (different from terrain blocking line of sight). To give an example, NATO flew over Serbia whom had many SAM sights. Yet the patrols were mostly seen a routine over the Serbs for the most part. Capt O'Grady got shot down( which was followed by his heroic escape) in his F-16 is an exception that was a rare single event. What they are not telling you is that O'Grady contrary to required procedure did not turn on his ALQ-131 Self Protection Jammer as he got used to the relative routineness of the flights (where all the planes had their Self Protection Jammers on). He was not really a hero as he should not have been shot down as he violated important essential procedure ( but he had a spectacular survival story after his blundering negligence). Here in DC, jammers don't do anything meaningful that I can tell. Even simple noise Jammers seem to do very little even at long range. Jammers have a 1/range squared advantage at long ranges over the usually more powerful radar. Anyway, the point of the dialogue is even "modest incorrect" modeling can have a big impact on these battles. Here is how I see Taiwan would plan a defense. Taiwan not take a forward position with its F-16s. Taiwan would Put two AWACS in the rear Put a C-130H/E stand off jammer also in the rear but closer than the AWACS (the DC do nothing jammers that could easy with simple noise jamming cut most enemy radar ranges in 1/2, 1/4) A large plane dedicated to jamming can have power source levels equal or more than many/most of the opposing radars. Use directional jamming Hold the Taiwan F-16s (loaded with Self Protection Pods -AN/ALQ-184 or 131s, Harpoon missiles 120 nmi range to sink the attacking fleet, and AMRAAM 120 C or D) back behind the SAMs towards and under the AWAC/Stand Off Jammer protection thus safe from early stealth strikes and safe from early enemy radar detection due to longer range and reduced detection range of radar. Strike the stealth/non-stealth fighters with AMRAAM 120 from held back F-16s when AWACS/SAM radars locate them in range. Sink the navy when half way across the channel with harpoons. Without effective jamming, long range air to air missiles(plus Stealth) tend to become the be all king of battle. Also, an F-16c block 50 was 18.8 million adjusted for inflation is 40 million ....don't know cost of block 72 upgrade
@eyeborg3148
Жыл бұрын
F35 + AIM-260 seems to be a unbeatable combination for now. If you mod in the PL-17 missile, add more J-20s or potentially the FC-31 for naval situtations, China probably stands a better chance and may be able to shoot down some F-35s, although the advantage should still lie with the Americans. Anyways, thanks for all the work you do running these simulations, really shows how much of a difference stealth + modern missiles make.
@mikesmith-wk7vy
Жыл бұрын
now would Taiwan play that game charging into a barrage of pl-15 missiles or do they have a better survival strategy
@thunderamu9543
Жыл бұрын
This was an eye opener.
@retrowingsrestorations
Жыл бұрын
Those Viper Take Off's hahaha!
@nashonwesonga4480
Жыл бұрын
What a simulation’i learned something here the F35 is 💪🏿
@jc1840
Жыл бұрын
A) Idk why but there’s something sexy about the F-5 as old as it is. B) I’ve noticed you’ve never modeled the Growler in these war games which is a very important/useful asset in regards to counter-air. Just wondering why. Love these war games please keep them up. Mahalo for the hard work 🤙
@stupidburp
Жыл бұрын
EW is not really part of the game. Barely modeled at all
@xxxm981
Жыл бұрын
We need some Cortana action again.
@Shadowless_Kick
Жыл бұрын
How realistic is the simulation? What factors determine if a missile can hit a plane or not? How does the simulation make stealthy jets less visible?
@kermittoad
Жыл бұрын
The strategy will be drastically different IRL, other than that the advertised capabilities of these aircrafts are applied in game, except the f35 can't talk to each other in game as in IRL. The answer of the second question, you should google how missiles work. Radar guided/heat seeker missiles track object and heat. Radars can't detect stealth planes unless they're very close due to reduced cross section, as for heat seekers, stealth planes are engineered to minimize their heat signature, hence the missile seekers can't track properly unless it's close range.
@Shadowless_Kick
Жыл бұрын
@@kermittoad Thank you for the explanation. Then why are so many J-20s shutdown by missiles? The differences between stealthy and non-stealthy jets are hard to see
@kermittoad
Жыл бұрын
@@Shadowless_Kick There is different levels to stealth, the US has Decades worth more experience in the field, China not so much, their stealth planes such as j-20 are not exactly or even close to the US counter parts in terms of capability, j-20's are very good low observable aircrafts, not really comparable to a full stealth package (Low cross section from all angles especially the rear compared to lows observable or 4th gen fighters), I'm sure china will get there, but the US had a really long headstart on these stealth development, So in conclusion the J-20's can be easily detected than the F-35/F22's, hence resulting in more losses.
@Utubesuperstar
Жыл бұрын
@@Shadowless_Kick because as stated and shown in the video the j20 is a discount brand not actual stealth it’s targetable from over ten miles further than Amy hence Amy curb stomped it like the cheap crappy knockoff it is
@Shadowless_Kick
Жыл бұрын
@@Utubesuperstar In the Eurasian Times, search a report “Viral Image Of China’s ‘Upgraded’ J-20 Stealth Fighter, J-20B, Mesmerizes Netizens; Experts Decode The Aircraft”. PLA may have made some improvements
@funkytownjedi
Жыл бұрын
Love the hornet & flanker 😊
@mikesmith-wk7vy
Жыл бұрын
can anyone get these mods are they all GR only and do you need the Beta for mods or can the regular DCS use mods like the f104
@therobotfoodnetwork
Жыл бұрын
It would be interesting to see a stealthy cruise missile carrying a couple AIM-260s as a AWACS killer
@LordMustangGT93
Жыл бұрын
FYI, the cvn America was sunk on purpose in 2006, 250 miles off the north Carolina coast. We wanted to see what it took to sink one, and it didn't sink. We scuttled it on purpose after that.
@3613jeremy
Жыл бұрын
Why would Taiwan fly straight at a superior opponent instead of waiting for them to get close enuff for the air defense system to lock in on them
@nathan80999
Жыл бұрын
This might be a stupid question, but will the upcoming/upgraded AN/APG-85 Radar on all F-35 variants be able to modeled with any sort of benefit/gain to NATO forces in DCS? Obviously in real life there are gains, but is there anything publicly available that can be used for gain in simulation purposes here?
@stupidburp
Жыл бұрын
Probably only in the most superficial way. The game doesn’t really model it properly
@nathan80999
Жыл бұрын
@@stupidburp okay, that was my suspicion and thoughts. Wasn't sure they would be able to have a higher resolution of scanning to pick up low observable aircraft at a longer distance for example. Thanks!
@mrlodwick
Жыл бұрын
Thank you Capt and crew. Blue cheese burger and Chips,
@GlockMan70
Жыл бұрын
That glass cage serves 3 uses at least one is the vision parameters and weapon lock-on the ĺast is for thermal notification of weapon launch notification.
@airprok8328
Жыл бұрын
The block 3 super hornet is considered a 4.5 gen
@jamesfletcher9032
Жыл бұрын
APOC MVP
@MrKkaeder
Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@sfesfawfgasfhga
Жыл бұрын
If there happens to be commercial airliners or private jets in the same airspace, would AWACS be able to ignore them, or would missiles find any target of opportunity?
@msytdc1577
Жыл бұрын
Both AWACS and fighters would be able to discriminate against civilian traffic by their speed, altitude, and heading, as well as more advanced radar capabilities that can determine and automatically classify aircraft types by being capable of literally counting the number of turbine blades at the front of the engines from the radar returns. Large civilian aircraft would also be using ADS-B transponders broadcasting their flight information which could also be incorporated as a type of IFF (identification of friend or foe). The missiles, however, if they go 'pitbull', activating their own smaller, less sophisticated, radars in their terminal attack phase, well, let's just say, hope you aren't within it's detection cone when that happens, because they likely are not capable of such differentiation, and will lock on to whatever is in range. Perhaps newer missiles are better able to engage only the target most similar in size and expected speed and position as the target it was initially fired at rather than simply going after the strongest radar return, but I don't know that that information is publicly available (non-classified).
@WyvernFalken
Жыл бұрын
The dead giveaway here is civilian airliners always use transponders and squawk codes. AWACS will see those and filter it out.
@Utubesuperstar
Жыл бұрын
You can discriminate but the risk with fox 3’s is they go pit bull and go for the first thing they see. Growling sidewinder has done some good videos about fighting in the middle of commercial traffic
@Utubesuperstar
Жыл бұрын
@@WyvernFalken civilian traffic in general, awacs and even the fighters themselves could easily distinguish. The missiles maybe not
@军事-s1f
Жыл бұрын
真打起来不会区分,任何飞行物出现在防区都会被击落。有很多被击落的民航飞机案例
@dougmuti3850
Жыл бұрын
Rickybobby has one speed and thats GO! 🛩
@拆那-j5l
Жыл бұрын
yea, hope this is the simulator CISI used, so the US will not suffer huge lost of air craft carries
@scientificpeople02
Жыл бұрын
@grim reapers - Have you read the CSIS Taiwan Wargame Report? It might be some good source material for future simulations 😊
@Youtubeuser1aa
Жыл бұрын
Nah
@Shadowless_Kick
Жыл бұрын
Taiwanese and Chinese experts are laughing at the CSIS Taiwan Wargame Report. They said that the only effect of that report is to tell the Taiwan regime that US will not come to rescue, Taiwan should purchase as many US weapons as possible and fight on their own until the last Taiwanese soldier.
@bussolini6307
Жыл бұрын
cap, i think for a fair fight, it would need to have the PL-17 against the AIM-260.
@justanotheroglesby2847
Жыл бұрын
So no c130ish with crates of freedom? Dam.
@jimmynoo
Жыл бұрын
these sims are very entertaining. bravo
@Uhtred-the-bold
Жыл бұрын
That guy was trying to defect, and ya shot him down….
@paulcadden4967
Жыл бұрын
I thought the US was supposed to be a defender of Taiwan? In this, if China attacks Taiwan, they win. But if it's America being the aggressor and attacking China first (as they probly would) US wins? You need to run this again with the US actually being defenders rather than their usual shoot first tactic. Besides a carrier fleet that far from home and supply, they would be lost in the end with the Chinese in their home advantage and resupply ability
@stupidburp
Жыл бұрын
Yeah USN would probably show up after Taiwan is already on fire from missile spam. But it is debatable when Taiwan would choose to launch fighters because they have enough underground bases to house their entire fighter inventory. They might hold a significant portion in reserve to fly out when the US arrives.
@hkfoo3333
Жыл бұрын
Aim 260? not proven and not available at this time. not realistic doubt US has the long range effective targeting . .
@TraditionalAnglican
Жыл бұрын
What about using the USAAF F-22 & the F-15EX carrying a mix of AIM-260’s & the new Sidewinders?!?
@Grendelsbane
Жыл бұрын
Have you modeled how or use of Rapid Dragon would impact the battlefield?
@brentlanier9959
Жыл бұрын
Let's see something new with F-4's!! Big F-4 missions!!! Let's see the F-4 a lot!
@gregbrown3764
Жыл бұрын
The thing with this sim (pre-US) is that there's no way Taiwan would just storm out there like the first sim pass. Unless there are bombers inbound, Taiwan has absolutely nothing to gain by taking the fight to PLAAF. If the first skirmish took place exactly how Cap set it up, Taiwan would be far better served flying CAP over Taiwan and enticing the PLAAF into their SAM net. When other assets join the fight, all bets are off.
@obsidianstatue
Жыл бұрын
I find the cynical view on China rather tiresome From the added 0 on J-20's RCS to the comment about PL-15
@cono686
Жыл бұрын
Can we have more war games with E/A 18 growlers, because in a real conflict they would be quite essential
@msytdc1577
Жыл бұрын
DCS doesn't really model ECM at all, certainly not realistically. When we know that the US is capable of generating phantom aircraft via ECM, has flying drones that emulate other aircraft that would fly ahead of manned aircraft draining the missiles of fighters and missile batteries of SAMs, and fighters have towed decoys in addition to the far more primitive chaff and flares to defeat incoming missiles... well, it's pretty clear that a real engagement would turn out vastly different than these simplified simulations, in the favor of the US, by the same amount that the F-35 turns these engagements from equal losses to absolute routs. That's not even counting the contributions of AEGIS, which by all accounts is vastly superior to its advertised capabilities, to the point of being simply unfair.
@msytdc1577
Жыл бұрын
@trickdodge don't you have a CCP meeting to shuffle off to?
@92HazelMocha
Жыл бұрын
@@msytdc1577 It's the opposite of pretty clear; ECM is a state secret of every nation that develops it, we don't know what the Chinese have in terms of ECM and joint exercises with other western nations imply the US might not even be at the forefront of ECM, when considering the systems that the Rafale and Grippen have.
@grimreapers
Жыл бұрын
Area of Effect jamming not modelled in game.
@superflyguy4488
Жыл бұрын
Up until a year ago, it was accepted that a pre-requisite for dominating the battlefield was to dominate the air. Then along came 16 year old spotty Ukrainians with an interest in electronics, and drones ruled the air/ground cross over.
@hughmungus2760
Жыл бұрын
in small battlefronts like the taiwan straits drones would be the biggest killer and china would produce them in monsterous volumes. But the US operating from thousands of km away would struggle to field large numbers of drones.
@superflyguy4488
Жыл бұрын
@@hughmungus2760 The PLA Commander just before H Hour. - "What do you mean the drones didnt come with batteries".
@hughmungus2760
Жыл бұрын
@@superflyguy4488 currently in the ukraine war both sides are making extensive use of commercial off the shelf drones, mostly made by DJI. China is getting its drones tested in combat whether it wants to or not.
@superflyguy4488
Жыл бұрын
@hugh mungus The Russians are suffering from the various embargoes when it comes to both drone logistics and capability, also thier ability to improvise and to integrate drone sourced data into the battle in a time sensitive Manor is lacking. Don't forget the both the Brit and US Mil have been training, mentoring and observing Ukrainian forces for around 8 years.
@TheRealSteve42
Жыл бұрын
The USS America would be carrying F-35Bs, not Cs. Cs are not short takeoff models, catapult carrier launched only. The B model can take off of LHDs with STOVL. If there are any F-35Cs in the seventh fleet, they'd be on the Reagan with the F/A-18s. The only difference that this change would make is the longer range of the C models, and if I were to guess, slightly better maneuverability with the larger wings too. Not a huge deal, just putting that out there. Not only that, but realistically this flight would be accompanied by Growlers, which would probably screw up those J-20s pretty bad. I know they aren't in game, would be nice to find a way to mod them in though. Would be a game changer in these naval operations.
@SAMMIEJONESJUNIOR
Жыл бұрын
Here is a big problem the moment a j20 turns around, it will. E no different on radar that a f16. So they would have to stay committed, and I don't know how good they would be in a dog fight in real life.
@msytdc1577
Жыл бұрын
That implies China cares what happens after they launch their anti-ship missiles at the carrier group...
@SAMMIEJONESJUNIOR
Жыл бұрын
@msytdc real life is not a video game they won't be able to create a whole fleet out of thin air if they are easily shot down
@MaddMattsGarage
Жыл бұрын
So I was reading an article by Adam Daymude about both the SU-57 and J-20 and found this interesting.. "Both purports to be 5th generation fighters. But let’s take a look, shall we. ‘Both are twin-engined, twin-tailed. Good start. Both have canted vertical stabilizers, though the J-20 is more so. Most likely a point to the J-20. They both have blended fuselages, point to both. Now let’s look at angles. On the J-20, I count at least 7. The Su-57 has at least 8 I can see. And we won’t even address the front of the fuselage where the cockpit is because you’d need a supercomputer to figure out that part’s stealth features. And those canards on the J-20 are a problem. ‘Taking them both in, and trying to neutrally evaluate them, they both look like they could be some competent aircraft. 5th gen though, I highly doubt it. They certainly have a reduced RCS but I can just tell by looking that it won’t be in the same league as a Raptor or Battle Penguin. In fact, published RCS for the Felon is an order of magnitude worse than either of them. I can’t overemphasize enough how bad those canards are for RCS on the J-20; I can almost guarantee its RCS is worse than the Felon." ... he posted it on Quora so should the RCS of J-20 should be worse than the SU-57???? Or should we take it with a grain of salt?
@abc-id1sq
Жыл бұрын
He's 100 right China is paper tiger
@miguelitojin
Жыл бұрын
in your dream, you have everything. MEGA
@56mikefagan
Жыл бұрын
Why is the actual map of Taiwan and the Chinese coast not used? It's very confusing.
@justy1189
Жыл бұрын
Thankyou all for the content keep up the good work.....Apart from Cap sort that flight model plx tnx bye😉😉😉
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