Depends on the game. For slower paced games they're fine, but for something like Celeste where you can be dying 20 times a screen, the instant respawn Is vital for making it challenging but not a chore.
@ajavisk
3 жыл бұрын
Not only the instant respawn, but also the music. Since it keeps playing, it never feels like you are restarting anything (like in Mario)
@eisgnom7383
3 жыл бұрын
Or Super Meat Boy!
@pleggli
3 жыл бұрын
the instant restart feature is my favorite new feature in spelunky 2 in comparison to the first game.
@adog3129
2 жыл бұрын
yeah, that's really important for developers to think about, making the death screen represent how significant death actually is.
@SPMyers92
2 жыл бұрын
Or Hotline Miami!
@Nova-jw6ju
3 жыл бұрын
Somehow “You Tried” stings more than “You Died.”
@Insan1tyW0lf
3 жыл бұрын
Agreed. "You Died" just feels like a neutral, factual acknowledgement of the events of the game. "You Tried" feels either patronizing ("oh well, at least you tried") or like a passive-aggressive way of saying "You Failed". Arguably, death in many cases is just a setback, and is not indicative of a larger failure to progress through the game.
@LordMoku
2 жыл бұрын
But in the end, it doesn't even matter.
@edgymoss
3 жыл бұрын
jenna describing hades as a "fuckboy simulator" is so good
@Brandon-oc8lr
3 жыл бұрын
Its a joke until you realize shes not wrong - then its a feature.
@BarbarianGod
2 жыл бұрын
*eyebrow waggle*
@theskyway168
2 жыл бұрын
😂 I can't tell if it was a criticism or an endorsement
@itsaUSBline
2 жыл бұрын
Though I wonder if she actually played it, given that the joke death messages are for when you successfully complete a run, not when you fail (it makes sense in context)
@obsidian.heartz
3 жыл бұрын
dying in minecraft usually represents a mad scramble to the place you died. sometimes this means a quick trip to the next valley, but often times it can mean several minutes of trying to relive your thought process as you explored a new area, or trying to remember the exact turns you made in a cave system. sometimes it means you have to prepare a second set of gear to brave the precarious area that caused your death. sometimes it means that you just lost hours of progress and you’re not getting any of what you lost back, and you have to take a moment to come to terms with that in worlds where a player traveled hundreds of chunks from spawn, only to be told that your bed was obstructed or has been destroyed, it may mean starting completely over this loss feels even more pronounced in hardcore worlds, where, say, five years of dedication can be wiped out by a baby zombie and a spider
@kuiperchaos121
2 жыл бұрын
Rip Philza
@pliable-head
3 жыл бұрын
Death's Door's D E A T H really is so exquisite and I'm glad it led the way down this rabbit hole that allowed you to show me GAME OVER YEEAAHHHH which I was not familiar with, thank you Jenna and team
@danielbailey2937
3 жыл бұрын
I haven't played death's door but it reminds me of rdr1 where it would just say "DEAD". Honestly kinda badass
@LordMoku
2 жыл бұрын
Daytona USA not only graced our lives with GAME OVER YEEEEEAH, but also ROOOOLLING STAAAAART. Truly a masterwork. And I guess there's cars and stuff too, whatever.
@lets_lvl_up
2 жыл бұрын
I'm not a native English speaker and as such I'm always trying to improve my level. Polygon has become my go-to channel for shadowing, a technique in which you simply try to imitate the speaker in order to acquire more natural-sounding speech. So yeah, thanks to the hosts and whoever writes the wonderful scripts.
@polygon
2 жыл бұрын
This is really cool to know! -Simone
@amyelevens
3 жыл бұрын
the worst and most exhausting part about game over screens is the loading screen that may follow.
@FabriSlv
3 жыл бұрын
God bless SSDs
@rachelladue1572
3 жыл бұрын
which is their own interesting design and typically follows one of the paths jenna mentioned for the game over screens
@Golgito
3 жыл бұрын
Another example I love is Prince of Persia sands of time's death screens. They remind the player that the game is actually a story being told and that things didn't go how you played it. Kinda meta, kinda non definitive. Probably my favorite death screen
@nvrndingsmmr
3 жыл бұрын
"No no no. That's not how it happened."
@IanMacMoore
3 жыл бұрын
Same with Assassin's Creed, "Desynchronized"
@Victorsandergamer
2 жыл бұрын
@@IanMacMoore YES THIS
@quisslequassle404
3 жыл бұрын
If a dark souls game told me "You tried" after I died, I think I'd either be genuinely offended or I'd genuinely cry
@faceofdoomness
3 жыл бұрын
Gonna put in my will to have the 'Game Over, Yeah!' sting from Sega Rally Championship (1994) to be the first thing to play at my funeral.
@nyan2317
2 жыл бұрын
The few "game over" screens that are really iconic for me is Monster Hunter series with its "Quest Failed" tribal stamp, and Bayonetta's "THE SHADOW REMAINS CAST". They all tie in with the game's theme and story, like in MonHun you're in an actual quest, which aren't worth losing your life over. And in Bayo, you're an umbral witch that arguably won't die unless you accept your death.
@aSpectrumofDorky
3 жыл бұрын
Man I really love Terraria’s death and the “game over” message becomes an in-game function if you die too much
@bingoccolon
3 жыл бұрын
yeah, especially with 1.4 adding graveyard biomes which basically punish you for not taking responsibility of your own mistakes in a way
@weeb_dweeb
3 жыл бұрын
@@bingoccolon or reward depending of the items you want
@FishSnackems
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah but the respawn timer is annoying
@bingoccolon
3 жыл бұрын
@@FishSnackems then just dont die :tf:
@FishSnackems
3 жыл бұрын
@@bingoccolon you have a point
@ohno417
3 жыл бұрын
The cool thing about Polygon is how y'all can take up any small part of a game and make me go "huh, yeah, that *is* super interesting". Kudos for that! Also, this video has one of the best thumbnails ever, holy cow
@g.f.martianshipyards9328
3 жыл бұрын
The game over screens of the Prime Trilogy were quite something. A cracked visor, a puddle of blood expanding on a white surface, Samus's failing heart, always accompanied by blaring alarms and a final scream. Never too graphic, but Retro made it abundantly clear that you died
@russellcammarata9819
3 жыл бұрын
There's a theory that the "Mackerel" that the Jackass gives you is a reference to Justin McElroy having a terrible time with fishing in the previous game
@Mallony
3 жыл бұрын
Do you have a link to that? I’d love to see that lol
@sadiecorning
3 жыл бұрын
@@Mallony I'm pretty sure they talk about it on the Besties podcast but I can't remember the exact episode/s.
@edwardnygma8533
3 жыл бұрын
Following
@JacobCrossMusic
3 жыл бұрын
Just wanted to add that I really like the game over screen at the end of Kingdom Hearts III, and how it blends the game over screen into the actual end sequence as you defeat the final boss
@takemetoyonk
3 жыл бұрын
2:50 This was a great moment and transition x3 One of the most legendary Polygon presenters that I'd follow outside of Polygon in the future for speeches/essays/rants, comedy aside
@FLY1NF1SH
3 жыл бұрын
Nothing will be as iconic as Gran Turismo's challenge fail screen, complete with "Oh Yeah" by Yello
@Arcane_Archer
3 жыл бұрын
I always mod Dark Souls games on PC so instead of YOU DIED it says YOU DONE GOOFED. Takes some of the sting out of it, lol.
@bamaxdaws6459
3 жыл бұрын
I enjoy game over screens that give you determination
@BagelBoi4000
2 жыл бұрын
I like the outer wilds game over screen- sometimes it just tells you that you died/killed spacetime but normally it shows you what you did in that life. It's very usefull for consolidating knowledge in a puzzle game.
@kelthulhu
3 жыл бұрын
Thinking of the game over screen in Hello Kitty Roller Rescue that straight-up shows beloved Kitty comatose in a stasis chamber while harrowing music plays.
@guytorie
3 жыл бұрын
If I got a game over and saw "You Tried" instead of "You Died," I would be infinitely more angry.
@saraellwood630
3 жыл бұрын
I absolutely love that y'all included the game over screen from Goemons Great Adventure!!! It's forever engraved in my mind, as it was one of the few games I had growing up. I would dance in my seat every time I died!
@sesetallinn
3 жыл бұрын
I'm impressed by how good Jenna's gotten at this
@Crisopeia
3 жыл бұрын
7:42 That's the best analogy that I ever heard
@FishSnackems
3 жыл бұрын
I really like the death screens of undertale, one shot, and super hexagon Undertale's makes you feel a second wind, wanting to play more with more vigor. It's really inspiring almost, it makes you determined to beat whatever enemy killed you. Super hexagons is the complete opposite, it is barely a screen. It is a simple "Game over" and restart. Very fast, very easy One shots is very Meta, even when saving, the game closes. The character goes to bed to save, and you are their God watching them. When yhe game ends, it closes.
@maxithalo7796
3 жыл бұрын
this is why I love rogue likes so much, dying is part of getting good, you aways get back more powerful
@morningstarred
3 жыл бұрын
now i just want a sheet of gold star stickers that have YOU TRIED in the dark souls font on them
@MorningDusk7734
3 жыл бұрын
You forgot the kill screens in Among Us, which I would say is part of why the game got popular. Imagine if when someone killed you, you just saw the same thing as the killer, a quick splash of blood and now you're a ghost. Seems significantly less fun, right?
@nvrndingsmmr
3 жыл бұрын
A m o g u s
@elskabee
2 жыл бұрын
thinking about "YOU HAVE MADE A FATAL ERROR" from Nancy Drew games, iconic
@THENAMEISQUICKMAN
2 жыл бұрын
An underrated game over screen I've always loved is Missile Command's. It says "THE END" with a giant explosion instead of "game over" or "you are dead", because that's just how nuclear war would go. It would literally just be the end.
@RED-sl2le
3 жыл бұрын
They make me want to pass the level even more out of sheer spite.
@sophiathekitty
3 жыл бұрын
Recently downloaded a game that billed itself as relaxing and easy.... But was a randomly generated platforming map with clunky air dash controls... Which would be fine.... But not when the bottom of the map where it starts you is instant death water that takes you to some weird area for a few seconds before kicking you back to the main menu.... Like if it just returned me to the start with a new map that would be fine.... But a game over time out room that returns you to the title screen menu is way too harsh a punishment for not being instantly good at a "relaxing" game.... Like psych it's actually a rage game. Like this game is supposed to be relaxing but it's mechanics are saying I should stop playing if I'm not already good at it. And honestly I've found that rage games that replace game over screens with dialog triggers feel way more like "the first step to being good" sorta thing.... But really only if you're actually making progress... But missing a hard jump in rage chicken the first time I got that far felt better when I got a new voice line. That meant I was making progress.... But the loading screen in far cry 3 just meant I was stuck and probably getting frustrated.... Though super meat boy does that without a game over screens.
@rmdcade1717
3 жыл бұрын
the Lady Dimetrescu wallpaper is true commitment beyond a mere bit. I salute you, Jenna
@vasil3ubr33
3 жыл бұрын
6:35 for anyone who would also like to look at the beautiful image on the desktop
@klaudiusz6233
3 жыл бұрын
This feels like a motivative speech to keep us keeping on
@NaviciaAbbot
2 жыл бұрын
My favorite "Game Overs" are the two from Monkey Island - the first in Part 1 if you decide to test Guybrush's claim to breathing underwater and the second in Part 2 that mocks Sierra.
@solarprogeny6736
3 жыл бұрын
I guess this doesn't count, but in Outer Wilds, you can inquire about hazards to your friend at the campfire where you respawn only AFTER you've died to those hazards.
@TheKeyblader133
3 жыл бұрын
Maybe this is unfair but I don't think that example of hades counts. You only get those when you *win*, and that's only in the later portions. Granted, it does have a similar substitute in Hypnos commenting on all the ways you've died, and also the death animation is a pretty enjoyable one.
@JemaKnight
2 жыл бұрын
I am so, so happy that 'GAME OVER YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH' made the cut for the video.
@Nixitur
2 жыл бұрын
The best part of the Dark Souls death screen are the many mods that replace the text with something else. Seeing "Thanks Obama" when someone dies in the game always makes me giggle.
@Matti2ooo8
2 жыл бұрын
Subtitles: "sound of silence like music" actually plays mad world
@juliam.426
3 жыл бұрын
“Isometric fuck boy simulator” Jenna you’re wonderful
@pinstripeowl
3 жыл бұрын
I really love this video, thank you. Interesting topic, great jokes both in the script and visually (that desktop tho), and reminded me of all the many many times I've died in games because honestly, i'm not that "gud"
@TheDan337
2 жыл бұрын
I suppose it didn’t fit your thesis, but I was surprised you didn’t mention _Total Distortion_ .
@anonym3
3 жыл бұрын
Game Over YEAH!
@Pencliff
3 жыл бұрын
In Yu-Gi-Oh Legacy of the Duelist when you win you get a jazzy jingle. When you lose you get the same jazzy jingle. I think it was just a lazy choice but that bop really takes the sting out of being beaten at a child's card game.
@doctorboots1604
3 жыл бұрын
Been playing a bunch of Sunset Overdrive recently. The death screen isn't so much of a thing in that game but the goofy respawn animations to a great job of selling the "Just have fun with it" vibe of the game.
@CaptainMug
3 жыл бұрын
I dont mind Game Over screens, the ones that I hate the most are the games that after you die put you at the beginning of an unskippable cutscene thats like 40 seconds long of which after you have a boss fight. I've stopped playing probably 3 or 4 games just because I had to watch the same shit or do the same shit over and over again because I couldn't do a jump or fight a boss.
@hazeltree7738
2 жыл бұрын
I'm a fan of Remnant: From the Ashes' death screen. You die, get a death screen for a few seconds then get thrown out of the latest crystal. Barely any break in gameplay, just die and continue in a couple seconds
@WTFPr0m
3 жыл бұрын
6:35 That background though...
@boppins
3 жыл бұрын
My game's Game Over screen is just going to be a link to this video.
@anonym3
3 жыл бұрын
Last time I was so early snake did not yet yeeted us Out of heaven
@MateusSFigueiredo
3 жыл бұрын
I like Tony Hawk's approach. You went out of bound, maybe got killed, get a mean message, and immediately continue your run
@pablofierros6975
3 жыл бұрын
Hades described as “Isometric Fuckboi Simulator” is remarkable, as its spot on
@mayochupenjoyer
2 жыл бұрын
shoutout to botw for the hilarious ragdoll physics when link dies, and shoutout to hollow knight for the neat animation of your shell pretty much imploding also, if you made it through a casual playthrough of either of those without dying, who even are you
@ShinjiSixteen
3 жыл бұрын
Great video and wonderful discussion of the topic. Thank you for the work that went into this!
@grahamstoner
3 жыл бұрын
I died in Disco Elysium when I tried to reaching for a neck tie.
@Ruuubick
3 жыл бұрын
I love them, I actually don't think there are enough these days.
@widgetlad5157
2 жыл бұрын
Best one is banjo kazooie. Seeing Gruntilda accomplishing her goals
@breakinggreens
3 жыл бұрын
Say what you will about Quantic Dream games, but one thing that David Cage said about Game over screens I find interesting. "A Game over screen is a failure of the developer, not the player." And to their credit, Quantic Dream games did remove game over screens, and instead featured either, a permanent character death, or disadvantage to the story later on.
@Panther-kid
3 жыл бұрын
Shin Megami Tensei games have the best Game Over screens. They get all peaceful and share some haiku about the wind or leaves or something.
@sigh824
3 жыл бұрын
Persona Q’s was like that. It was pretty cool and kinda terrifying
@adammiller8133
3 жыл бұрын
Fits well with the theme of Persona 3, the poem about time and death. “Death is not a hunter unbeknownst to its prey…”
@steviebea
3 жыл бұрын
shakespeare walked so jake the dog could run
@steviebea
2 жыл бұрын
YOOO a heart on a comment i forgot about! i’ve made it 🥰
@williamdunbar2802
3 жыл бұрын
I like the music of the original FF7 game over screen. However I prefer when a game just automatically loads a previous save when you die, like the 3d fallout games
@NicknotNak
3 жыл бұрын
I also think it's cool that some games don't even have game over screens, instead just insta reloading the level. The only game I can think of off the top of by head is portal, which is a game where you aren't supposed to die so it just starts you back so you can try again.
@ohdubwest7533
2 жыл бұрын
I feel like game over screens are much like the the stages of mourning. In time, you grow and change. After playing all 3 Dark Souls, I finally went from wanting to rage break my controller to full on belly laughter when a skeleton kicked me into an endless abyss. It becomes cathartic in time. Also, screw skeletons that camp blind corners.
@br4vem824
3 жыл бұрын
Now please an episode on the game over jingles
@fullmetalarmpit
3 жыл бұрын
Y'all really left out the "WASTED" screen from GTA?
@flawlesscowboy8829
2 жыл бұрын
This reminded me of when Conan O'Brien lost it at the death screen playing Tomb Raider
@beesalee4
3 жыл бұрын
"isometric fuckboy simulator" deserves an emmy
@newcorpses
3 жыл бұрын
One of the most frustrating game over screens I've seen is in The Messenger. The little Quarble imp continually makes fun of you for dying, and it's funny the first few times, but after some time, it started to piss me off because the game is legitimately hard. I don't need some little prick making fun of me for screwing up in a game that's actually difficult.
@pluspiping
2 жыл бұрын
Any other 90s kids out there who grew up emotionally distraught after watching Simba shudder, collapse, and die, all because you wanted to play the 16-bit The Lion King video game?
@twothreebravo
3 жыл бұрын
"Game over man, GAME OVER!"
@specialagentdavecooper9605
3 жыл бұрын
love that Jenna is rocking a Cat and Girl shirt
@cloudofmystery4251
3 жыл бұрын
"Bloody Roar" had the most frustrating death screen for me as a kid.
@i_am_Emmet
3 жыл бұрын
Can we acknowledge that Jenna called Hades an “isometric fuck boy simulator”
@icemonitorlizard
2 жыл бұрын
Shakespeare was a casual had me laughing pretty hard
@cupofdirtfordinner
2 жыл бұрын
Worth mentioning the game over screen for the game Juice Galaxy says "YOU SUCK"
@corbineaualexandre7340
3 жыл бұрын
I love those littles reflexions on aspect of video-games, 'cause yeah: saving didn't exist in the arcades. Game over don't mean the end if you choose to push forward... I'll stop rambling, but awesome video anyway ;)
@benoitbusque3601
3 жыл бұрын
This Thumbnail radiates such a powerful energy
@tetsuoshima2314
2 жыл бұрын
Those Batman Arkham game over screens with all the excessive taunting were so obnoxious, just the worst.
@medulasa1
3 жыл бұрын
Let Kirby sleep!
@setsers1
3 жыл бұрын
Yes. An ANNOYING Bummer.😠😆
@nihilisticpoet
3 жыл бұрын
Outward has a very enjoyable 'game over' scenario or rather scenarios. Instead of death and reloading a save, you instead recuperate either next to a town, in a prison or in a cave full of monsters etcetc. Depends where you die.
@jessestorey8312
3 жыл бұрын
I think the worst part about death screens, especially soulsborne's is that they are followed by a long loading screen
@nuemilee
3 жыл бұрын
Y'all are really sleeping on the Total Distortion game over song.
@triwizz3542
3 жыл бұрын
Snaaake!
@donkongo5272
3 жыл бұрын
Iconic as always, my liege ☺️
@tylerleto7224
3 жыл бұрын
Lady Dimitrescu? A woman of taste...
@OliviaOnline
3 жыл бұрын
Great thumbnail, I will be back to watch the video later
@anonym3
3 жыл бұрын
5:59 thats actually a cool mechanic
@ngkn2008able
2 жыл бұрын
1:50 scat team?? Scat???
@BallotBoxer
3 жыл бұрын
VIDEO OVER YEAAAH!
@matheussanchez7390
3 жыл бұрын
great essay
@CalsCalzones
3 жыл бұрын
great video jenna!!
@personnemay2692
2 жыл бұрын
Put persona 5 in story mode because I died once while not paying attention to security level. Could not take being such a disappointment.
@user-si3gu8pm6j
3 жыл бұрын
“…but you can’t cheat D E A T H” (Gman Graves) 🙂
@Ristro44
3 жыл бұрын
Eye- symmetric fuck boi simulator
@Swishy_Blue
3 жыл бұрын
Sometimes you just gotta know what's on the other side.
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