An amazing conversation. As an Indian muslim in the US I do interact with a lot of Pakistani’s. I used to think what was the view of Maulana Azad in terms of the financial aspect of creation of Pakistan, and I recently read about this in his book where in an interview he says and I quote “The elite business class muslims of the undivided India fear competition from the Gujarati’s Jains and Parsi communities that they are hiding behind the postulation’s of an Islamic governed state and muslims. After the creation of Pakistan, over the years these elites will imbibe the booze of the wealth of Pakistan and let it die at the hands of its enemies”. I hope that some leader may be Imran Khan can break the shackles of slavery for himself and his country 😅Pun intended sry. But amazing content bro.
@shrirajagashe5928
2 жыл бұрын
interesting take, so many angles to partition. amazing.
@outbackandabout
2 жыл бұрын
wow, never knew of this aspect of history. thanks for sharing.
@71espn
2 жыл бұрын
@@shrirajagashe5928 This is the only angle. Pakistan was created to serve the elite and feudal Muslim class
@abhaypatel4292
2 жыл бұрын
Amazing
@amanjaiswal7065
2 жыл бұрын
Hmm an interesting angle
@abdullahsiddiqui4414
2 жыл бұрын
10/10 podcast once again. Definitely going to pick up her books! Thank you for introducing so many wonderful authors, Uzair Bhai!
@cornyashell
2 жыл бұрын
Man I had the privilege of meeting her at a wedding and the best time dancing away! She was quite awesome, fun and chilling. I remember she was researching this book and her PhD thesis at that time.
@muhamamdabdullah
Жыл бұрын
So are you a part of this elite culture as-well? Have you manipulated and exploited the system to your own benefit or not?
@harishpatel1988
Жыл бұрын
Thank God, Sardar Patel did away with the princely States after partition and land reforms. undertaken in India. Unfortunately we are stuck with "reservations" in education and government jobs.
@krisvin7761
Жыл бұрын
I can comment firsthand on how 1% of Pakistanis live, so we had many students from Pak in the USA at my university; they are the cream of Pakistan; they buy cars, live lavishly, and hardly do any part-time job, while Indians mostly from middle class live a ordinary student life
@hashirmoghal
2 жыл бұрын
Elites be like "Zoor Zoor sy bol ke sabko scheme bta dy"
@F-Khan491
2 жыл бұрын
Can't thank you enough for making this channel sir. I am addicted to the informative videos on it. You are doing a great service for people to better understand the socioeconomic dimensions of our country. Thanks a ton!
@Pakistonomy
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the kind feedback
@furqanahmed932
2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting talk.General public even the students in universities, the so called literate ones, are not aware of elite capture in Pakistan. This book is on my reading list now. Thanks Uzair for bringing the research of amazing people to Pakistanis .
@SS-nd3ew
2 жыл бұрын
Please make this book available on audible. Very informative discussion. Really appreciate your initiative Uzair!
@muhammadanisurrehman2412
2 жыл бұрын
marriage is a sort of thing where you can blend the wealth of one family with the status of the other.. wow, amazed (read: surprised) at how these power dynamics work.
@huzaifahmuhabatkhan8150
2 жыл бұрын
This was a genuinely insighful glimpse at social, political and economic forces that determine the lives of about 220 million people. I feel this sphere has been in shadows for too long, espcially for people like me that arent a part of this exclusive bubble. I think the most intresting dicsussion in all of the podcast was the fact that almost everyone Dr Rosita talked to didnt consider themselves to be contributing to the machine that is causing a lot of problems or suffering. And their respsones were simple whataboutsim when Rosita confronted them about the reality. This a weird circle jerk where everyone thinks other people are the problem, to try to shift the blame and distance themselves from the 'bad' things. I feel like this is not just sort of way to 'keep apperances' , it geneuinly feels like a lot of these people have started to belive in the BS they themselves make up. A sort of human response to justify their position and to justify their exploitation, however small or large it may be.
@f.50
2 жыл бұрын
Exactly, they could always choose a country where honest work is rewarded since they have all the means to leave, but they are too comfortable enjoying the undue perks.
@ranahassan4931
2 жыл бұрын
What an amazing podcast hats off to both of the speakers! Also such an underrated video this is. Wish to cross paths with both of you guys soon.
@Adnan-cm9zp
2 жыл бұрын
I always wait for new episode..thanks uzair for bringing wonderful people in your podcasts.
@letstalkpakistan493
2 жыл бұрын
Wow. Gotta go buy her kindle version!! Interesting insights.
@graze4461
2 жыл бұрын
i dont want this podcast to get lost among the sialkot incident discourse going on today in the country.
@muhammadanisurrehman2412
2 жыл бұрын
my first Pakistonomy podcast, and already in love.
@mpsbell
2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting interview!
@kawan5851
2 жыл бұрын
This is such a good episode. It should be translated in Urdu so that masses will be able to listen to it.
@salqubeq5203
2 жыл бұрын
Good analysis. Correct insights
@hashirmoghal
2 жыл бұрын
Excellent podcast. Thank you.
@talhakhurram277
2 жыл бұрын
Very intrigued to read her book after this.
@graze4461
2 жыл бұрын
most valuable podcast. least explored topic.
@mbamin
2 жыл бұрын
Very insightful. Great stuff
@norozkhan3114
2 жыл бұрын
30:50, uzair sounded very similiar to Rancho from 3 idiots when he taunted on his professor for spending millions on pen that could write in space, and that he could’ve used a pencil instead. I’m a fan of these on-spot puns.💯
@devdynamix
2 жыл бұрын
Loved it!
@arsaeed
2 жыл бұрын
Amazing Podcast. Great job Uzair!
@noumankarim6878
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@umairbashir8571
2 жыл бұрын
keep it up Uzair !!
@ctrlaltdelmeir184
2 жыл бұрын
You forgot to put a link to Dr Rosita Armytage's book in the description.
@javedfazal59
6 ай бұрын
It seems that the book is a must read. But Uzair Younas sb Jinnah sb had no vision and never described it if he had one!
@Suqrat400
2 жыл бұрын
excellent guest and great podcast.
@lakhania
2 жыл бұрын
How do you define an elite vs middle class in Pakistan?
@ImtiazAli-nl8qv
2 жыл бұрын
Really informative video
@navinsardana5480
Жыл бұрын
Greetings from New Delhi....Uzair, I love your channel. Keep it up....
@RasheedKhan-cm1my
2 жыл бұрын
great podcast. 👍
@aamirhussain5982
Жыл бұрын
Poor people can't read this book. I am unable to purchase this book😭. I wish if I could afford to purchase it and read out it. How much would have broaden my horizons
@muhamamdabdullah
Жыл бұрын
Don’t worry I’ll definitely try my best to buy the book and make a pdf copy available for everyone because it’s absolutely necessary for every pakistani to read this book and broaden their exposure and perspective on how the elites operate and how they exploit the people of Pakistan, if this is unethical on her opinion then I wouldn’t do so however I’ll try my best to make this book available for everyone.
@AliasadKhan08
2 жыл бұрын
30:18 killed it.
@FawadMasud
Жыл бұрын
I wish you can do subtitles in Urdu and make it viral for those who dont understand English but they must know what is elite doing in Pakistan
@kawan5851
2 жыл бұрын
Very insightful. But One point that are misleading is that all migrants settled in Karachi. Only Urdu speaking migrants, Bengalis, Gujaratis etc or some others (mainly from UP) settled in Karachi. The rest settled around Punjab. More than 50% migrants settled in Punjab. I belong from a migrant family and almost all of our village came from Indian Haryana and Delhi region. But our second third generation assimilated locally and we identify ourself with the local identity of Punjab, whereas Migrants and Sindhis essentially divided into distinct ethnicites in Sindh and were not able to assimilate with each other to this day. Moreover General Zia Ul Haq's family was also a Muhajir and his family settled in Punjab. They came after 1948 in Pakistan. I don't know that why many miss this point.
@rosita4354
2 жыл бұрын
Agree! And this important nuance is addressed in the book. I hope you can read it.
@kawan5851
2 жыл бұрын
@@rosita4354 Will definitely read your book in the future. Thanks for your reply.
@71espn
2 жыл бұрын
Areas around Delhi and current haryana were part of Punjab. So the migration took place within itself.
@haleemahsaida9772
Жыл бұрын
Excellent podcast,
@muhammadabdullahsiddiqui9639
2 жыл бұрын
Wish I could get my hands on this great effort by the guest. Someone can any one teel me how to get it in Pakistan, karachi?
@khalifawasiuddinahmed5779
2 жыл бұрын
I subscribed just so I could understand the culture given the situation in Afghan and Pakistan. I am a self proclaimed Islamist living in America from a privileged background but not too bright nor too pretentious. But I do have delusions of grandeur imagining that I might do some good for “my people” and bring the khilafah back even though it was destroyed within 30 years of our dear prophets demise.
@hotfun07
2 жыл бұрын
Aah, the nostalgia and make believe of the Grand Ol' Aristocracy. Ridiculous. Though Punjabis on both sides of the border are good at Hospitality but also at Showing Off.
@marvithartv4528
2 жыл бұрын
nice...
@quddusquddus136
2 жыл бұрын
"Lesser breeds of the lawless lands" may give Kipling, if alive, a new a new perspective since this new breed talks of culture.
@waqarhaider3967
Жыл бұрын
Uzair Younus if you could summarize this book with key points in a video, it'll be more convenient for people like me having weak English.
@sumamachhotani
2 жыл бұрын
Wowww
@sacredinsights77
29 күн бұрын
Can Rosita do some research on Azad Kashmir
@aroojtahira7823
2 жыл бұрын
You are doing great
@C12unit
Жыл бұрын
The system itself is a major obstacle to progress and even if one throws money at PK in the form of aid it will not filter down to where it is needed. It appears there is no concept of a wider society among the elite outside of their own circle. This is equivalent to the medieval societies in Europe.
@saleschemicals195
2 жыл бұрын
Pls fix your mic pls. Excellent work though. Supreme
@jariabbas2483
2 жыл бұрын
10/10
@criticscorner
2 жыл бұрын
Uzair plz bhae Spotify pa be upload kro apna podcast, cz it is easy to follow while driving...
@Pakistonomy
2 жыл бұрын
It is on Spotify sir. Link below: open.spotify.com/show/1O2CMwWzcngyM66FTRJd1B?si=nuBmomNbQni-OVEYAVUnfw
@amirzaka367
2 жыл бұрын
Uzair ♥️
@MuhammadAbdullah-kl8nq
2 жыл бұрын
❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
@deepaksn6930
2 жыл бұрын
No subtitles 🏴🏴🏴🏴🏴🏴
@ThoughtProvoking-ZaidAsghar
Жыл бұрын
After listening long podcast, easy to deduce that Mr Uzair younus is also elite 😅 Having too much knowledge about elite evolution and their mode of survival.Several clues and questions by Uzair are itself hidden answers and Dr.Rosita's heavy laugh after listening question is glaring proof.😂😂😂
@graze4461
2 жыл бұрын
If i ever visit newyork, i'd wanna meet uzair first, then AOC.
@sewaligoswami781
2 жыл бұрын
AOC? DUDE REALLY!!
@Pakistonomy
2 жыл бұрын
But I’m not in NYC
@hashirmoghal
2 жыл бұрын
FBR Open Up 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@yasirism4953
Жыл бұрын
Im a Phd in Pushto from Landhi University. Meray ko bhi interview mein bulao....(i said meray ko !!)
@manicho3560
2 жыл бұрын
poor pakistanis should take a leaf out of sri 🇱🇰
@user-lx9qe2ll9c
2 жыл бұрын
Crap! One percent f the country and you sitting in USA trying to be pseudo intellectual! Lol
@abdulhananabro147
2 жыл бұрын
Just bcz he is sitting in US doesn't make anyone a pseudo intellectual. Plus it's about the book by Rosita, not Uzair.
@khalifawasiuddinahmed5779
2 жыл бұрын
So his podcast isn’t from Pakistan! What a bummer. I thought I might actually get to talk to some kala Sahab pseudo intellectuals in the time they find in between parties and clear headed fleeting moments between the bottles of JW. Oh well.
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