I love how your new sprites are kinda a mix of the og and the hired art sprites. It really shows how much your art has improved!
@honeyybutter
12 сағат бұрын
what happened with the sprites
@sadiesadiemlady
10 сағат бұрын
@@honeyybutter she used to have someone else draw them but she switched back to drawing them herself
@Pulsarnix
16 сағат бұрын
What we missed! ID, your MatPat is showing.
@I_The_grim_REAPER_I
16 сағат бұрын
Where ?!!?!?!
@Pulsarnix
16 сағат бұрын
@@I_The_grim_REAPER_I On the Thumbnail
@pimple6380
16 сағат бұрын
@@Pulsarnix That was a Spongebob reference
@Yuki.starler
15 сағат бұрын
@@pimple6380not what they meant-
@pimple6380
15 сағат бұрын
@@Yuki.starler I meant the "where" comment was Patrick's follow up
@psychosplatterstudios619
15 сағат бұрын
My theory is that Talegames wasn’t originally canon, but when Scott and Steal Wool had to course correct after the blunder that was Scott’s handling of Security Breath, they used Tales from the Pizzaplex as a blueprint. I agree with John Fuhnaff that the mimic was probably always intended, with multiple references so a mysterious unnamed animatronic being used for free labor. But when Security Breach realised the way it did, they used the Minic from Tales that we were already familiar with instead of whatever it was originally supposed to be.
@thatoneguy609
14 сағат бұрын
Even if they did use Tales as a blueprint, I’m still not sold on Tales itself existing in the mainline continuity now. Largely because of how they introduced the Mimic in Ruin in a way that _really_ does not line up well with Tales. We’re told explicitly by Gregory that the Mimic has been trapped down here for “a REALLY long time” (he doesn’t even say “I think”, this is stated as though it’s something he knows for a fact), and we encounter a security system created for it that’s designed to look like 80s-era technology. This strongly implies that the Mimic was down in this bunker (even if not trapped in that specific room until recently) for around *50* years. Meanwhile Tales depicts it being brought to the FFPS location _during the Pizzaplex’s construction,_ which would only allow it to have been down here for about *5* years by the time of Ruin. This is on top of the Mimic being described as a super complex endoskeleton comparable to the Glamrock endos in the epilogues, whereas in Ruin his design is dramatically more simple. Tales may have been the blueprint, but I think they diverged quite a bit.
@stick7962
14 сағат бұрын
@@thatoneguy609the mimic’s introduction does not contradict anything in tales especially since Ruin tells us Mimic wasn’t in that specific room until after the events of SB
@stick7962
13 сағат бұрын
@@psychosplatterstudios619 tales was always canon, same with frights
@Mizuna752
10 сағат бұрын
@@stick7962 You are confusing canon with being similar. Elseworld DC comics are events that happen and often times similar to "canon" continuity but they aren't the canon timeline. That's the case with tales. They are events that happen but are not "canon" because they are slightly apart from what actually happened.
@stick7962
10 сағат бұрын
@@Mizuna752 I’m sorry I must have missed the part of the cover of Frights that said “elseworlds” or “what if” or anything that remotely implied this was a divergent timeline especially since fnaf has never been a multiverse franchise
@shacharlem4424
14 сағат бұрын
It's stated in the early synopsis' of the tales of the pizzaplex books that the stories are set in the world of the "newest games." The Fazbear frights and interactive novels are what I believe is "some are, some don't, I'm sure you can figure it out" while the original novel series trilogy was "those specific events didn't happen in the games but we have clues for you to decipher the games".
@savnana3605
16 сағат бұрын
I always use books as stand alone "this COULD happen in this universe" to show us the rules / expectations, not the literal what happened.
@jakeblitzcoffie4859
15 сағат бұрын
Me to. I completely agree.
@auntdede6780
15 сағат бұрын
This is EXACTLY it. I’ve struggled to verbalize this but this is exactly how I feel.
@stick7962
14 сағат бұрын
Why? The books treat themselves as direct continuations of the games story
@jakeblitzcoffie4859
14 сағат бұрын
@stick7962 No, they don't. They treat themselves as an AU version of events parallel to the games. The timelines don't match up, and the characters don't all follow the same paths.
@stick7962
14 сағат бұрын
@@jakeblitzcoffie4859 they absolutely do not do that. The Frights books largely treat themselves as a sequel series to UCN. Tales treats itself as a prequel to SB
@UnoriginalJokester
7 сағат бұрын
I'd like to address the spinoff thing: While Scott didn't correct Dawko calling it a spinoff, I don't think that effectively proves it's not mainline. Help Wanted was originally intended to be a fun novelty VR game before it was expanded into a full-on game. So even if Help Wanted is mainline now, calling it a spinoff technically wouldn't be incorrect. It's only fair that we should apply the same logic to Into The Pit, since Scott also said it "turned into this big, full fledged full sized game." Considering Into The Pit presents itself as mainline, even if it was originally intended to be a spinoff, I think it's safe to say it is mainline now
@seeskittyplay3620
14 сағат бұрын
It feels like the theme of the future games being the Ripple effects caused by the Aftons is also being done with agony manifestations. It's odd to me that most agony fueled stuff is just... mimicking the event that made them? Also glad you're on the haunted games train! That ties in with help wanted and keeps the spooky supernatural elements as well as the AI stuff. I like the idea of AI learning from ghosts for some reason 😅
@Sonicmid
16 сағат бұрын
One interesting thing someone pointed out is that the story of into the pit actually might be an in universe parallel with midnight motorist Pit trap believes Oswald is his son and Oswald keeps running back a restaurant Oswald is strangely connected to foxy So I guess mike runaway is true
@justice8718
11 сағат бұрын
One issue is that Oswald’s father has a Freddy mask, the character tied to Freddy.
@0celot8
9 сағат бұрын
yo its the andrew games d rider
@0celot8
9 сағат бұрын
I've told you mike runaway is the only one that makes sense for so long. Also William MM was confirmed it FLAF.
@Sakachi18
9 сағат бұрын
So happy to see a full video on this. Thank you for giving us a broader perspective on such a pivotal game from such a pivotal year in the franchise.
@IDsFantasy
8 сағат бұрын
No problem!
@christophergirardi8145
12 сағат бұрын
Very interesting! Another thing to consider why Into the Pit isn't or can't be in the main game continuity is the implication of Afton throwing the Spring Bonnie suit in the ball pit to hit the evidence (Spring Bonnie being the only thing that's real also doesn't have a body inside) instead of the animatronic being left in the backroom to get boarded up.
@zgmfx-09a
15 сағат бұрын
love how you said "the yellow rabbit killing six kids" instead of "the mci" good attention to detail
@stick7962
14 сағат бұрын
Good attention to detail and it’s just denying what ITP is about
@qryptid
9 сағат бұрын
So "Stitchline Games" could now mean a series of games based on the Stitchwraith storylines instead of, or confusingly in addition to, the current meaning
@blueberryelf1150
16 сағат бұрын
I think you have waaaaay to much faith in the developers and Scott getting every single detail exactly right. Sometimes, things just aren't communicated well. Just look at what Scott had to say about SB.
@Cross_Corp64
16 сағат бұрын
Personally, Scott should’ve just come out and say something about future installments and at least give us simple hints with what’s going on in the FNAF lore. I’m just tired of this book debate and this anniversary made me stop caring about it. I’m rather gonna make up theories not because I want to solve the lore, but mainly I enjoy this franchise so much and I want to see more FNAF content in the future. One thing is… ever since VIP came out, I completely went through a breakdown of the Tales Games tsunami because that book seemed to imply Tales Games- when it Into the Pit Game came out early, I was going to give up and leave on the community and lore because of admitting defeat for good. But then when I heard about Stitchline Reboot, I end up coming back and decided to hang out by NOT caring about the book debate. I really enjoyed this video even though I’m a Stitchline Reboot believer. But I’m really curious for you to talk about VIP and talk about how it has affects the Gameline. I love your content btw
@LeoPerkk
16 сағат бұрын
OG style ID is back
@Caramel6027
16 сағат бұрын
When I heard 'But hey,' I knew you were gonna make that joke 😅. Also, I think it is interesting to think that somebody's memory of Afton is a monster bunny thing, adult or kid. But that's my take on it, at least. For all we know in that continuity he WAS a monster bunny thing. (Imagine. I honestly don't know which would be scarier, a golden bunny monster version of Afton, or ACTUAL Afton. I'll take the bunny, cause he doesn't always come back).
@Caramel6027
16 сағат бұрын
Also, the little Freddy plushie on your desk in the little cartoon thing (there is probably a name for the cartoon facecam things, but I can't remember it) is adorable!!
@Blastham
10 сағат бұрын
The memory of the yellow rabbit being a monster is not far fetched. The game tell us that they knew that someone used the spring bonnie suit during the mci, so the memory of the people would make the yellow rabbit a monster since there isn't someone to directly point at
@Caramel6027
6 сағат бұрын
@@Blastham That's true
@andrewwilliams9063
16 сағат бұрын
The Westbrook stuff just FEELS wrong. Like it’s way too overboard and not something Scott would even take into consideration.
@loganentertainment1814
15 сағат бұрын
Into the Pit could explain why we see Freddy, Bonnie, and Chica, but not foxy. Modern FNAF seems to be about the people who were affected by Aftons evil, and the bullies from FNAF 4 were the ones that caused some of it. It explains Springbonnie’s voiceline where he says, “I’ll make you suffer just like I did”, which is referring to making Oswald suffer, so his dad can suffer like he did. It also could explain why we find a Freddy mask, and that Oswald somehow knows about the looks of Freddy and the gang, despite never going to Freddy fazbears. Michael Afton was the one who wore the foxy mask, and since he hardly shows up, it’s a reflection that Michael is out of the picture, but his 3 bully friends are still around. It’s a stretch, but it’s not far off. I do love modern Fnaf’s take. FNAF 1-4 was about the evil deeds and aftermath of Williams sins, with Sister Location - UCN is the conclusion to everything, then we get Help Wanted and the future releases which seem to dig up the past, while telling a new story to characters who are reflections of past characters, while also bringing back characters we never thought about. I do love how Modern FNAF is doing this!!!! 😱😀👍
@DragoSonicMile
10 сағат бұрын
Freddy Fazbear: Into the Five-Nights-Verse! Every piece of FNAF media is canon, but the details that don't match up one-to-one are things that happen in parallel universes. But, I'm just guessing.
@kubaxwot4629
16 сағат бұрын
WEE WOO WEE WOO Peak is here Also Good job with speedruning this video before the second GT-NOT-Live episode with you came out
@anjellogames
12 сағат бұрын
Completely agree with the fact Into The Pit is NOT within the same continuity of the game universe. I’m very excited for Mega Cat to work on a sequel! This game was so well made and had an absolute blast playing it. Great video!
@QuestionDeca
8 сағат бұрын
Honestly, I've come to the conclusion that FNAF has become more akin to a Lovecraftian Mythos, in that the stories are all part of the Mythos, but not really all that often connected to one another (or even same universe). I've also come to the conclusion that this fact actually solves why "Security Breach: Ruin" doesn't seem to cleanly follow "Five Nights at Freddy's: Security Breach". This belief is actually helped by the Dawko Annniversary interview revealling that Scott's story never actually made it to Steel Wool for the production of the main game, I think RUIN follows Scott's Story, not Steel Wool's, but they do occur in the same Mythos and still affect one another.
@The4thSnake
2 сағат бұрын
I've always wondered if Scott, as a religious man, meant "canon" in the biblical sense, leaning more towards the notion of being official than towards continuity. As if the books and games and movies can be equated to the four gospels, which aren't all consistent, but do come together to give a clearer picture of the overall narrative through different perspectives.
@zeroknight1311
16 сағат бұрын
With what we already know, there is precedent that Into The Pit maybe a game created in Universe. After all, the FNAF Help Wanted does have mention of an indie game dev having made games based on stuff from Fazbear Entertainment's past. Those games being versions of what Scott had made. So it is possible that ITP is the same situation. Especially since the Character Encyclopedia is also a possible instance of Fazbear creating content with the purpose of keeping the public from finding out the truth,
@artofcosplay
14 сағат бұрын
Steve from tales had created only 4 games, that are based on fnaf 1-4, hehadn't made 5th game so it's unlikely i think
@suzie_do_you_copy
15 сағат бұрын
The cabinet theory makes a lot of sense considering the possed phone in The Week Before 👀👀
@drtremor
13 сағат бұрын
Well, it’s all canon. It’s all from Scott’s mind. 😳 🤣🤣 But, I agree. I think this game is not supposed to be a canon to the other games or the books, but a retelling of the book, and just a fun spin off game.
@LimboTheWatcher
15 сағат бұрын
Honestly, another absolute banger of a video. I genuinely forgot that 6 did have a set location and would've never thought to try and link this to the locations in the books/ITP game.
@Sonicmid
15 сағат бұрын
The game got confirmed to be in the mainline continuity because the devs had to remove some stuff to fit with the main lore DJ surf even said that If the game wasn’t cannon they wouldn’t have had to cut anything since none of it affects the main lore And there’s a return to the pit book which is coming out which is a part of book series that is actually confirmed to be canon and the writer says return to the pit connect to the main into the game
@LimboTheWatcher
15 сағат бұрын
A couple of points. The devs might have had to remove stuff to fit into lore, but that doesn't mean fit into continuity. The FNaF continuities generally have a shared set of established mechanics and key events, it is very possible the Devs might've thought of something which wouldn't fit into that shared lore. Secondly, the interactive novels are not shown to actually be interconnected but instead separate stories attached to specific parts of the FNaF series. To prove they are all the same continuity, you need... well... proof that they are, of which I haven't seen any beyond the fact that Amazon numbers their releases.
@connormarchand6302
15 сағат бұрын
So that’s the deal people have with using the books as lore, makes a bit more sense now
@handz8398
6 сағат бұрын
I sincerely doubt oswald's school not being real is significant proof that itp isn't canon to the games. It would be an absolutely terrible idea for him to use a real location like that, it would potentially encourage people to trespass, which is especially bad when its something like a school that has children there all day. And has he ever used a specific, real life location in anything fnaf other than hurricane utah itself??? It's just not good evidence, the rest of the video is really good though!
@Trunks1stApprentice
10 сағат бұрын
This is the only channel I watch for FNaF lore.
@Shyder
16 сағат бұрын
Yeah, I see the books as some kind of « This is possible in this universe » and also parallels to characters and events in the game. Although, it isn’t impossible that some events in the games could be similar to some stories in the books. Not the Exact same, but close.
@azimuddin1890
16 сағат бұрын
Why can’t Scott just confirm the connection of the Fazbear Frights books and the main games? Seriously, just one Reddit post would help everyone.
@LimboTheWatcher
15 сағат бұрын
If I were cynical, I would say that leaving this ambiguous gives people more incentive to buy the books from both sides, one trying to debunk their place in the main continuity, the other trying to prove their place in the main continuity. I am not cynical though, thankfully that phase died in 2020, so I get the feeling Scott just doesn't want to confirm such a major part of theorising through a Reddit post. Especially with SOTM coming up, we could likely see something close to confirmation as to which side is correct.
@cjaawesome616
13 сағат бұрын
@@LimboTheWatcher in my opinion it being vauge is good because both sides of the argument can be right. If you want to interpret the books as canon you can and if you don't want to you also can. Everyone wins
@drtremor
16 сағат бұрын
ID’s back!! 😊 (I’ll watch this later)
@hydranoid4940
16 сағат бұрын
Welcome back we missed you
@paydaygh9388
16 сағат бұрын
In I.T.P., why do we see the bodies night 1, then on later nights see the main cast acting strange, but we are always able to hide inside Golden Freddy? I’d like to hear everyone else’s opinions. Personally I think it’s because Cassidy was removed from G.F. or never placed inside in the first place, as I believe Henry was still wearing G.F. by this point. The reason I believe that is my personal bias that Midnight Motorist is about how Henry as G.F. is luring CC away from his home to keep him away from William.
@artofcosplay
13 сағат бұрын
The memories in the pit are distorted and twisted. On later nights we don't see the police or any trace of it so we can't take everything from 80's gameplay literally(but easter eggs, lore elements etc are should be taken literally)
@TheoryChum
16 сағат бұрын
Please look at the 1:35 am epilogue. When Taggart talks about the Stare Study done measuring EDA. Then when he's describing the various machinery he has used to measure EDA, he says 'Like Braud'. Braud is William Braud. William Braud did the stare study Taggart had earlier mentioned. He also worked with the Mind Science Foundation who worked with the CIA. Your suspicion of the FNAF 2 movie script was right, and I can prove it.
@GospodinWolf
4 сағат бұрын
What if the "strange fire" thing was about "What we found" story? As far as i know, it's the only fire that happened in all of these stories and had Springtrap hooked to a wall, unable to escape the fire. I will just guess that the whole timeline of the Frights takes place before Pizza Sim. Plus, the only thing that burned at Pizza Sim location was an underground ventilation system that, logically, wouldn't be accessible to anyone, even the paramedics, i bet Henry made sure of that. My point of the timeline is: Henry wants to burn William, he finds Springtrap after the FNaF 3 fire, but this time, Springtrap gets hooked to a wall, and burns down with the place. After this, he becomes the "Man in room 1280", and all of that happens. And, after dying (again) from the Puppet, he reemerges as Scraptrap with all the power he's left with.
@rotinasemroteiro
8 сағат бұрын
My "problem" with this story is that if it's only a memory/vision/whatever in that sense, it's ok, we can deal with it. I personally like the idea that the place is full of powerful emotions connected to this event and Oswald is just seeing them; but if it's actually a time travel, as the marketing made it seems, the things gets really weird. 😅
@nomad6169
7 сағат бұрын
As Mr Hippo said "sometimes a story is just a story" sure ITP has references to the main games but that's just what it is, references
@mewtwogamer2495
13 сағат бұрын
Your basically thinking the same thing I am. On the canonicity of the books that is. I was think the books ant canon but some of the plots in the books are. I'm not just talking about the Fazbear frights books, but also the silver eyes novels. I believe that Fazbear fights books, and the silver eyes novels are somewhat connected. I also believe that Circus Baby, and Scrap Baby aren't the same animatronic. Which I am planning to make a video on my channel at some time to explain why I think that.
@fenrisnox5766
12 сағат бұрын
Random crackpot theory I got as a result as Into the Pit: 1985 isn't the date of the MCI, but the DCI. The MCI likely happened much earlier, possibly before the bite of 83. If the games are canon to some degree, then it wouldn't make sense for Oswald to have seen an agony recreation the MCI, since the bodies are right there for everyone to see. One of the main themes I've seen lately is don't trust anything, so this theory of mine is a result of my personal descent into the ever maddening abyss of fnaf lore and how things we've been theorizing about for a little over 10 years at this point could be wrong. Regardless of Into the Pit possibly taking place in the fnaf 1 location (depending on what you believe) The Week Before mentions that they love to remodel the place, so who's to say they didn't remodel the fnaf 2 location after the DCI and bite of 87 closed it down and remodeled it to the fnaf 1 location as a means to cut corners?
@shyguymike
16 сағат бұрын
Oh my, you pronounced the city’s name properly _and_ mentioned that the flag changed. As a Utah enjoyer, colour me impressed! I also never considered that Westbrook could be a street. I had previously assumed Stitchwraith Stingers storyline must take place in Maine. That is a very interesting interpretation, I like that a lot. Although I overall do not expect this to be an overly convincing point for most people. I have seen people argue that Mr. Scott B. Cawthon is moving away from referencing real places in his works. Think to _The Scoop_ in _Five Nights at Freddy's : Fazbear Frights #12: Felix the Shark_ (2022) for instance, where Amanda Mason visits a Utah settlement named Peace Valley, which is completely fictional. Even the original description of Hurricane is not particularly accurate, seeing as _Five Nights at Freddy's: The Silver Eyes_ (2015) described it having a forest, which is very much false for the real location. For these reasons one could reasonably argue that a fictional street named Westbrook could exist in this forest having Hurricane. Or even that the fictional school could be named after someone named Westbrook, which is a real family name. I think your primary point in the video is very much interesting, Miss Identification Document Fantasy, do not get me wrong, but ultimately I very much doubt it will convince a lot of people.
@Ender-01o
16 сағат бұрын
ShyGuyMike spotted 👀
@shyguymike
16 сағат бұрын
@@Ender-01o I am like a cryptid. Only occasionally seen in the wield.
@Finnegan_Floof
8 сағат бұрын
you saw and replied to one of my comments before on how the 2 endings of help wanted 2 can't both be canon since a time paradox would occur, so maybe you'll see this one too. So- and you might have already thought about this before, but i just want to mention it since i don't really see anyone talking about it- golden freddy isn't evident to even be in the fnaf 6 fire. the main 4 were broken down and melted into remnant and injected into the funtimes, eventually meeting and then separating from elizabeth (circus baby) leading to molten freddy (the original 4) and scrap baby being in the fnaf 6 labyrinth. scrap trap is obviously wiliam, we play as michael, lefty contains charlie, and henry is in a room nearby. none of these characters contain golden freddy. i think this could potentially answer the question; "how can cassidy trap william in ultimate custom night but the others cannot?" it's not really known if the others have actually moved on or are still present and hidden in the newer games, but if they have moved on, cassidy hasn't, and could be able to trap william in UCN due to still being a roaming spirit. i think this claim could be supported by how andrew in Room 1280 is visible to all of the nurses and is roaming the hospital while also keeping the corpse alive. it's able to protect william's body to preserve it so it can remain in torment, because it's still a physical spirit. what are your thoughts?
@AuroraIceFlame
14 сағат бұрын
At this point they should just treat the books in the lore like pre fnaf help wanted games. They were made to “poke fun” at the franchise but the events did actually happen just slightly different.
@kinglee4131
15 сағат бұрын
not many people make books based on games. and then make games based on the books. all we need now is a game based on the movie and we've come full circle.
@rrrrrr-yo7sz
7 сағат бұрын
I feel like the interactive novel coming out about Into The Pit will clarify a lot about whether it’s in continuity or not.
@PugGrumbler
12 сағат бұрын
I just realized how tall pit Bonnie actually is, he’s twice the size of oz’s dad. He’s gotta be at least 10 feet tall, probably more
@SushiWolfYT
7 сағат бұрын
I loved this game so much. Got 30 hours and almost all achievements in a week’s time and I can’t wait for more from Mega Cat Studios
@BotBartek
15 сағат бұрын
I like to think we just have a bunch of universes under five nights at freddy's name - Mainline games, Sliver eyes, Frights, Pizzaplex (still debatable), Movie, and now Game frights. All different universes with separate stories but the same premise and rules. Also Good vid ID, keep it up game theorist
@existingtm
10 сағат бұрын
I love how memories come into play! It's one of the better of the recent additions to FNAF IMO
@Phantomjoeseph
12 сағат бұрын
My opinion this is one of the rouge inde developer ( older Oswald) games like the ones that “ discredited the faz bear legacy” as mentioned in help wanted but the book version is the real story
@IDsFantasy
10 сағат бұрын
Interesting, though that still has the whole Westbrook issue
@Phantomjoeseph
8 сағат бұрын
@@IDsFantasy yea good point on a side note have you thought of doing a q and a for 200k subs?
@rhys1927
11 сағат бұрын
I agree with the overall theory, although I would say that the evidence surrounding Utah and the location of Westbrook Middle School is a bit weak to be the main piece of evidence proving that Into the Pit isn't in the game continuity. The world of FNAF is obviously based off of real life, just as you've shown with Utah being a prominent location in the franchise, but that does not mean that the real life locations have to match up one to one. Just like how FNAF pizzerias don't actually exist in Utah, Westbrook Middle School can just as easily be a fictional school. Not to say that it's not a interesting bit of supporting evidence, but by itself, it doesn't really hold up as a 'main' piece of evidence. Besides from that little nitpick, great video!
@IDsFantasy
10 сағат бұрын
See, my thought process there is that since Freddy's is supposed to be in Hurricane, why even name the school Westbrook if you're going with a fictional name? Idk if there is a Hurricane Middle, but why not call it that? The name Westbrook seems intentional given Scott kept the Washington County stuff wholely consistent and there was an irl Westbrook Elementary
@meltedtost4680
9 сағат бұрын
@@IDsFantasymaybe it’s just me but Westbrook seems like a generic fictional school name you’d fine in a movie and by that logic midnight motorist can’t be cannon because it takes place in a forest and those aren’t near hurricane
@stiletteleray1326
4 сағат бұрын
It confuses the heck out of me how the FNAF fandoms uses the terms canon and continuity. It’s fine to use words how you wish/eclectically but a lot of taking past each other happens because the creator was loose with his words to his mostly young fandom.
@SatinPolar
16 сағат бұрын
Only canon thing from ItP is Oswald's Dad fate. But like not the in game one. Only that he have a son. You kniw the Freedy Bully
@galactic06
16 сағат бұрын
I don't like the Freddy bully theory, at least the way game theory presented it. The only bit of evidence towards it was the Freddy mask, with the rest of the video bending evidence to fit a preconceived conclusion, rather than the evidence leading towards that conclusion. Like, Mega Cat Studios was not measuring the pixels on the monitor so that they could point people towards Oswald's Dad being the Freddy Bully.
@zenvariety9383
16 сағат бұрын
Well, Oswald's dad could be Henry's eldest son. Haven't played the game yet, but it would make sense if the Freddy bully and Sammy Emily were the same person.
@nationalpv
13 сағат бұрын
@@galactic06 It’s not like the Bonnie Bully theory where it actually has more than the mask for it. There’s more evidence for that to make it work. The Freddy Bully theory is a bit eh. I think it needs a bit more to stand on before it can walk.
@Wizardjones69
16 сағат бұрын
11:17 its not a accurate mci, its a warped memory made by the agony on the pit which explains the 6th victim and the bodies being scattered
@dannyboi1706
14 сағат бұрын
The Tales From The Pizzaplex books ARE canon. Fazbear Frights is non canon and set in a different universe, though some could fit into the canon timeline. The Novel Trilogy is also set in its own universe, just like the movie. Into The Pit can technically fit into canon fnaf because the ball pit isnt actually making you go to the past, your living in the memories of the missing children, which is why Spring Bonnie is a monster, thats how the kids remember William before he killed them.
@GJames-Legend101
16 сағат бұрын
If they do make fazbear frights game adaptations here are there changes I want. 1. The puppet carver: instead of making it about fazgoo make it about porter and his special machine that can created wooden animatronics. 2. He told me everything: instead of fazgoo being a product made by fazbear entertainment and having it steal on your organs and identify make it more like the ooze/mutagen from TMNT perhaps a fazgoo monster that can shapeshift, also change the name of it as well. 3. In the flesh: instead of a digital springtrap getting mat pregnant make it more like it’s slowly corrupting him and trying to take form in the real world. These are just ideas.
@zenvariety9383
16 сағат бұрын
Haven't read the books, but with in the flesh they can have it be akin to the Alien series where a monster is injected and burst out of the guy's stomach.
@Coreybyte
12 сағат бұрын
I HAD NEVER RECOGNIZED THE FLAG IN INTO THE PIT HOLY AAAAA
@theyuritheorist850
10 сағат бұрын
I always felt like the books are in their own canon separate from the games in the same way something like the various spider-man iterations where core events happen but in different locations, and some details are different. But I don't think them being in different canons makes them completely useless, it's like having ingredients for certain dishes but having the recipes for other dishes, although none fit 100% u can use parts of some recipes to figure out how dishes that use the given ingredients might be made, sure it won't be completely accurate to the actual recipe it'll be far better than trying to blind
@tenderlots2180
12 сағат бұрын
In a better world, the game Into the Pit would take place in its own universe or a separate continuity from the main games However, Scott has given a lot of relevance to this story with 4 different versions for some reason... (the original book, graphic novel, the game, and the upcoming interactive novel 'Return to the Pit') So I still believe that Into the Pit takes place in the same universe and continuity as the other games
@TheCrell
13 сағат бұрын
Scott has ocarina of time'd the fnaf timeline with this time travel
@UnprovenAssumptions
7 сағат бұрын
This is so unrelated to anything, but love that you pronounced “Hurricane” in Utah correctly! 😁
@wyattrox11
7 сағат бұрын
Finally, another ID’s Fantasy video proper. Glad to have ya
@pokestyn
16 сағат бұрын
While I disagree about the canonicity I liked the point at the end about memories lingering. Honestly I feel we can’t fully say definitively until we get return to the pit. Once we have all those pieces then I think we can address it.
@firewings9954
15 сағат бұрын
The yellow rabbit in ITP is an agony demon made from the MCI.
@FlyGlint_FNAF
11 сағат бұрын
THANK YOU!!!! I made a very similar video to this and got dragged by Stitchwraith believers. 😂
@IDsFantasy
10 сағат бұрын
No problem! Can't say I'm surprised 😅
@humptydumptysat
13 сағат бұрын
Patience theorist, Return To The Pit will solve it all
@Teoriak
15 сағат бұрын
scott is a genius he rewrote 4 games (first 3 stories and Fetch from Fazbear Fright) and THEY will be canonical and the books will not
@parzivalcro914
14 сағат бұрын
For me books work like this: their events and original characters are uncanon but all concepts, objects, posible scenarios and everything that explain certain things from games are real and canon to the games. The books help us understand snd expand the lore of the games bu they are completly uncanon to the timline from the games.
@Arkham13v
15 сағат бұрын
When i heard it was a spin-off game, i assumed that, unless it's proven otherwise, the spin-off games aren't necessarily in same timeline as the mainline games. Good to know you think it isn't 👍
@Sonicmid
15 сағат бұрын
It is confirmed Canon? DJ and the Dev said they had to remove some stuff because it didn’t fit with the lore
@nota444tm2
10 сағат бұрын
@@Sonicmid that doesn't mean canon. that just means it didn't fit with the lore of fnaf. is there any real confirmation where they say "it's canon to the games universe" and not just speculation and hopeful guessing?
@Samurai-Inferno
16 сағат бұрын
Since all the teens who were involved with the bite of 87 are grown up having kids. Is it possible Gregory is Michael Afton son or son of the Chica masked teen?
@tsume_akuma8321
15 сағат бұрын
In the worst, most unsatisfying, way possible, I think that the book stories are nearly all of the time, "things that could have happened" or "things that parallel stories of "our" timeline". They are parallels, they show us rules, situations, concepts and themes that could exist within the game, our, timeline.
@Normania-is-here
14 сағат бұрын
I honestly hope they are personally
@sethisevilone02
16 сағат бұрын
gibi explained that the arcade machines are haunted too and is connected to fnaf world
@thelivingtheater
13 сағат бұрын
Oh no, here we go again, back into the pit we go!!
@revvan2710
6 сағат бұрын
plot twist, William was just slandered, and what actually killed 6 children was the yellow rabbit in into the pit
@CamoLoTiProd
12 сағат бұрын
Wow, haven’t seen this art style in a while. Not bad.
@BlockyProduction116
16 сағат бұрын
I more so think the stories of Fazbear Frights are based of the events of the games.
@christianguest63
15 сағат бұрын
I’m curious what you think of people discovering there’s a lot of patterns in the music and motif’s across the franchise. I have a feeling there’s a lot more subtle ways of lore being implied than just text and images cross referencing
@shadefn1591
16 сағат бұрын
Love you vids keep making more
@jakemallory12
16 сағат бұрын
To me into the Pitt was not supposed to exist in the same timeline as the games. just a chef kiss to all the books. Kinda like how security breach was with its references to old games. This is the first book game so they put their heart into referencing all the book stories. So to me atleast the games aren’t connected to into the Pitt. Into the Pitt is probably just a step into a new direction a book adaptation direction which is separate. Hope I explained that good enough my brains cooked rn
@docrilas
15 сағат бұрын
but the old games exist in the same timeline as SB
@jakemallory12
15 сағат бұрын
@@docrilas yea and?
@stick7962
13 сағат бұрын
@@jakemallory12 to me Sister Location was not supposed to exist in the same timeline as the games. Kent a chef kiss to all the sci fi stuff Scott liked. Kinda like how FNaF 4 was with its references to the old games. See how stupid that sounds?
@jakemallory12
13 сағат бұрын
@@stick7962 I think your miss interpreting what I said and fueling it with anger cause of the topic. I was referring to how the game was showing references to previous stuff in the universe. Like how security breach did. It’s just weird to have so many references to the books and stuff we know isn’t canon if it’s in the canon universe. Just feel like they are telling us this is supposed to be in the book canon.
@stick7962
13 сағат бұрын
@@jakemallory12 there is no “book canon” it’s just THE canon
@richardnixon846
7 сағат бұрын
wake up babe, new ID Theory dropped
@KenchiHasikira
16 сағат бұрын
I swear I was subbed, let me fix fhat
@DJBurns-jq8mn
15 сағат бұрын
Sorry for the long comment but I feel the basic understanding is that if Stitchline is confirmed by Into the Pit then the relevant Frights stories need to be explained and i think i got it. *Into the Pit* has no evidence for being after FNAF 6 nor does some of the other Frights stories. Sure it's implied but the stories that are basically the origin of Stritchwraith itself ( *Fetch* and *The Real Jake* for example) have no concrete set date to happen. Theres nothing stopping some of the stories to take place long before Stitchwraith. Ones like Out of Stock, *1:35 A.M.* and *Step closer* obviously all happen after Stitchwraith as we know they collected the pieces of the animatronics and stuff. But the stuff like Eleanor creating the Plushtrap chaser (which we know that it existed for a while since people repeatedly kept sending it back to the store) and terrorising people in *1:35 am* , *Step Closer* , *Blackbird* and *Hide-and-Seek* don't need to be around the same time as Stitchwraith. I'm just saying there can be time jumps in between stories. Like: *Room for one more* obviously takes place before Sister Location which has SnackSpace from *Into the Pit* mentioned in it *Prankster* has Glitchtrap in it so its after Help Wanted was in development. *What We Found* is basically a retelling of FNAF 3 *Room 1280* says William has been there for a long while after FNAF 6, all these are years apart from eachother so stories can happen at any point in the canon. So *Into the Pit* ,*Fetch* , *The Real Jake* and all the stories where Eleanor was involved with creating things like *To Be Beautiful* can happen years before FNAF 6. Eleanor and the Stitchwraith can do there own thing for a long while from when they are created And then the stories like *Room 1280* and everything we know the Stitchwraith is connected with can happen after FNAF 6. If Into the Pit is indeed canon to the games then it can make sense when you consider there is a gap in time between the stories. This explains how and why we see *Fetch* , *To Be Beautiful* and *Count the Ways* can be in the game, because they happen before Oswald goes in the pit. *Here's addressing some possible contradictions:* The Easter eggs are not canon as the developers said and the Stitchwraith can appear in Oswald's window because they do exist at that time. I know you guys will say no because Andrew went into Fetch after William exploded in the factory but his spirit was split across many things when that happened and nothing really says Andrew was in Fetch during *Fetch* and could easily of latched to Fetch as it would of had agony from being beaten up like what happened to the Mimic. Fetch can just be a faulty product, it may be a lame answer but not everything can be great (Fazgoo and Springtrap pregnancy anyone). Eleanor is still a mystery but if she is indeed and agony creature created after either Elizabeth’s death, the agony collected from the kids William experiments with in his bunker (my personal belief) or just is Shadow Freddy like people have theorised before, nothing is stopping her from existing for a long time until we see her in the Stitchwraith stingers. What do you all think?
@SkeldarkUmbras
14 сағат бұрын
There lies the problem in it being Fetches battery in which Andrew does have to posses though, and there’s no other for Andrew to be in the stitch wraith before FNaF 6 for as I recall by hear say that they spend the majority collecting everything Andrew had possessed. It just doesn’t seem plausible for William afton to explode after the stitch wraith.
@DJBurns-jq8mn
13 сағат бұрын
@@SkeldarkUmbras the battery is an issue sure but the fact not everything is 1 to 1 with the og book it's not a problem with the theory
@mcpics4448
16 сағат бұрын
More so than usual
@Wizardjones69
16 сағат бұрын
return to the pit being on the line up same us the twb already confirmed stitchline or frights games as canon
@LimboTheWatcher
15 сағат бұрын
TWB and RTTP are not actually established to be the same continuity. They're in the same series of books, but those books have no through line. The only connection is that they are interactive novels and that Amazon has chosen to number them. Nothing states they are connected in continuity.
@Wizardjones69
12 сағат бұрын
@@LimboTheWatcher "not connected" the fnaf 1 location is said to have party room and the backstage being behind guess what, this was said on itp BEFORE week before its canon, and its on the same continuity thats just cherry picking from book deniers the survival logbook isn't canon so because it has the springlock quiz by fnaf 3 times
@SirBertLeaman
15 сағат бұрын
What do you mean when you say the game was never intended to be in the hands of the fanbase? Unless I missed something, Scott was talking about getting a run of cartridges made through Limited Run Games who do sell them to the public. That wouldn't have been as widespread but it would still be in the hands of fans, no?
@Azrael-vz7fg
10 сағат бұрын
I like to think it isnt canon to the normal timeline. Its just an anniversary game.
@ethbeatthem4836
15 сағат бұрын
I don’t this this game is canon to the Timeline of the games, but is still book canon but details of this tale have similarities to game events. Ideas are similar but story and events are alter for a different narrative.
@efrataefrata619
15 сағат бұрын
Heeeeeeeeeeey The art style has changed 🤔🤔
@Dinodotjora
16 сағат бұрын
What is your favourite Fnaf game? my favourite Fnaf game is Fnaf 2
@MrSonicHedgehog
16 сағат бұрын
Call me a filthy casual but I prefer Security Breach as I love being able to move around like I can in other games I play. Don't get me wrong, I can play and beat the other ones (save for FNaF 6) but prefer the exploration of the facility over staying in an office or bedroom
@SapsTraposo
16 сағат бұрын
Help Wanted 1 def
@Stellar_Dusk
16 сағат бұрын
Fr @@MrSonicHedgehog
@agony_addict
13 сағат бұрын
ID when I tell her that Freddy's doesn't exist Irl in the same place so FNaF isn't canon to itself (the logic that ultimately is used to say that ITP is not in continuity is extremely bad 😭):
@verified9351
10 сағат бұрын
she wasn’t even arguing that dawg😭 if you’re gonna criticize her make it actually constructive instead of not responding to her real point
@meltedtost4680
9 сағат бұрын
@@verified9351her logic is that since a school in the game isn’t in a real life city the game can’t be cannon that’s like me saying Freddy Fazbears isn’t in Utah hurricane so fnaf isn’t cannon to fnaf
@IDsFantasy
8 сағат бұрын
I literally said it was in a real life city, just not Hurricane
@meltedtost4680
8 сағат бұрын
@@IDsFantasy I worded what I said wrong when I said real life city I mean hurricane which is still not great evidence since every description of hurricane in fnaf has never been accurate to it
@agony_addict
2 сағат бұрын
@@verified9351 she says that because a school exsists irl outside of an area which FNaF takes place in ITP simply isn't in game continuity, I'm not even gonna sit here and argue as to why this is a terrible way to theorize (and yes I know this is just part of the video but this drags it down to "what the actual hell did I just watch?" territory) and instead I'll just pull out what every FNaF novel/book says by itself lolz: "This book is a work of fiction. Names, characters, places, and incidents are either the product of the author's imagination or are used fictitiously, and any resemblance to actual persons, living or dead, business establishments, events, or locales is entirely coincidental."
@tenbrooks9756
13 сағат бұрын
Ngl I feel like every new game breaks the timeline in one way or another.
@GJames-Legend101
16 сағат бұрын
Things I think. 1. I think theirs a possibility that into the pit the game could be a in universe game made by fazbear entertainment llc due to the 2d pixel artstyle. 2. Maybe the ITP game is just a new fnaf game timeline and separate from the mainline games, like how the silver eyes trilogy is clearly different from the fazbear frights boi series. 3. I like to think that if none of the books are canon then what we see is simply Scott taking certain ideas/concept’s from the books and adding them to the games. 4. I think we could possibly get a sequel or prequel to into the out where we play as Oswald again or someone new. 5. I’m a huge fan of the theory of Oswald’s dad being the Freddy mask bully and if pittrap is meant to be a agony representation of William it make sense that someone acting like William would want to target someone who was bullying and killed his son.
@Sonicmid
16 сағат бұрын
It’s confirmed it’s in the main timeline because they said they had to change stuff in order to fit with the main lore Also, in universe game explanation really doesn’t work Vr explicitly told us that the moment the game began There’s also the whole Oswald’s dad being the Freddy bully Also return to the pit is a book version of game and a sequel to the week before which is a part of a book series that is confirmed to be canon and it was confirmed by the writer of the book that it connects to the game so….
@nikolaytablet1394
2 сағат бұрын
Everyday i'm getting closer and closer to Insanity because of FNAF
@CamoLoTiProd
9 сағат бұрын
Nice touch after you went onto GTnotLive
@DJFNaFMan
14 сағат бұрын
Gosh I love these videos
@officialjokemobs5922
11 сағат бұрын
Captivating as always… I’m not sure it’s CANON but I’m open to the idea! Also, who do you think OMC is? Henry? Ralph? A deity? Anyways as always have a great day 🐻❤️
@Nakiatakai
9 сағат бұрын
So does that mean that the books are loosely connected to the games.
@kyleeversfield8276
16 сағат бұрын
Updated version of the old avatar for you interesting change on video on a game about going back in time.
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