If you could add any debate technique to this list, what would it be? Did I miss anything here?
@namankumar9478
5 жыл бұрын
Seems like nobody can defeat an atheist
@applesong01
5 жыл бұрын
@@namankumar9478 except God Edit (5 months after posting this) I am no longer Christian
@namankumar9478
5 жыл бұрын
@@applesong01 I'm also a theist but brother it's likely impossible to defeat a convince atheist who can give scientifical explainations.
@rutessian
5 жыл бұрын
@@applesong01 Your imaginary friend is the best!
@BillGarrett
5 жыл бұрын
I disagree with Harris on several issues, but I'm always impressed by how he can stake out a position, add a moral dimension to it, and maintain that position calmly in the face of people the public might defer to on moral matters (such as Catholic leaders). He's willing to be angered by moral offenses, but then turn that anger (as Neil Gaiman said about Terry Pratchett in "He's not jolly, he's angry") into biting and effective humor, to keep the audience on board with him.
@the-chillian
5 жыл бұрын
Deepak's mistake in that debate was that he's accustomed to lay audiences where he can say something like "I invite theoretical physicists in this audience to address this question" and get no response. But this time, he was at Caltech.
@shreyosengupta5742
4 жыл бұрын
Btw, the theoretical physicist was not just a run of the mill one either. That was Leonard Mlodinow. He co authored books with Stephen Hawking.
@matthatch3920
4 жыл бұрын
That makes that so much better. Lol. Thanks for the info.
@raidermaxx2324
4 жыл бұрын
well part of being a decent snake oil salesman, is knowing your audience.. Thats why Trump is failing so hard.. He's not just talking and trying to con his base at a rally, he has to try and con the majority of american people, who just dont fucking buy his bullshit. Just like that Deepsack guy
@dimitrisgregan553
4 жыл бұрын
@@shreyosengupta5742 poor dumbsuck chopra didnt expect that lol
@raidermaxx2324
4 жыл бұрын
@Greg Brown BallsDeep Chopra 🤣🤣
@slycordinator
5 жыл бұрын
My favorite moment of anyone dealing with Deepak Chopra was once when a random guy from the audience said: Guy: You said earlier that all belief is a cover-up for insecurity, right? Deepak: Yes. Guy: Do you believe that? Deepak: Yes. Guy: Thank you. LOL
@troyschramii4828
5 жыл бұрын
@nuff sed How do you believe anything, and not believe it literally? Constructive conversation with an individual capable of that is unnachievable and self defeating.
@CynicalBastard
4 жыл бұрын
@nuff sed It seems alot of people, here, are trying to cover up for their insecurity that their discussions and debates are all diminutive and cover topics that have incomplete data sets as their basis.
@mikenedelcu3682
4 жыл бұрын
@nuff sed yes thst comment was certainly on track.
@1004enes
4 жыл бұрын
This is so good that i have to screenshot it
@slycordinator
4 жыл бұрын
@@1004enes There's a video of it on KZitem. I paraphrased the question, as I don't recall it perfectly lol
@heinzguderian9980
5 жыл бұрын
"Nobody on this stage has more scientific credentials than me - I took physics, chemistry, biology." Wow, that's amazing. I bet Depak also has tons of mathematical credentials - he has probably taken algebra, geometry, and trigonometry. Not to mention that he's also taken history, language. Maybe even some art classes as well. Wow. What a fucking polymath. Or a high school student.
@nishantintouch
5 жыл бұрын
India says sorry for Deepak
@Leon-pn6rb
5 жыл бұрын
Nishant Jakhad he’s American, not Indian
@ragon747
5 жыл бұрын
Deepak is a joke...a bad one
@CD-123
5 жыл бұрын
Chutiya hai sala
@pirateman1144
5 жыл бұрын
You also gave us damn good food and damn pretty women. We're all good, fam.
@TPGNATURAL
5 жыл бұрын
@@Leon-pn6rb indian born
@musiclover9361
5 жыл бұрын
When Deepak Chopra once tried to school the particle physicist Brian Cox, professor Cox suggested that somebody should ask Deepak to solve the Schrödinger equation in a spherically symmetric potential. Mic drop.
@AlexBaillie
5 жыл бұрын
Wow, I wish I understood this
@FactoryofRedstone
4 жыл бұрын
@@AlexBaillie The Schrödinger equation is used in quantum physics, to calculate the probabilities of particles. A spherically symmetric potential is what is also found in a hydrogen atom. While it not totally trivial it is a basic exercise. (There are other spherically symmetric potentials where some are easier and some harder to calculate.) So basically he just asked Deepak to calculate a very standardized exercise.
@AlexBaillie
4 жыл бұрын
@@FactoryofRedstone thank you very much!!!
@joeschmoe1193
4 жыл бұрын
Cox proved Climate Change by showing us a graph. How silly was that?
@bradleyjones2457
4 жыл бұрын
If Deepak Chopra truly studied quantum physics he would at least be able to solve shrodingers equation in an infinite square well. It was the first thing I did in QM at uni. Good times.
@MadJDMTurboBoost
5 жыл бұрын
Just had a long debate with my muslim father who cannot understand the basic premise of skepticism or atheism. I sure could have used this video yesterday! I try to compose myself as much as possible but it is difficult to take a debate seriously when the opposition believes that whipping women who cheat is an acceptable punishment, and that being gay is a disease. I bite my tongue but I find it hard to engage in a professional or calm manner when every rebuttal is a passage from the quran. I'm just glad I made it out of that religion; what a scary thing it is.
@scotte4765
5 жыл бұрын
I don't know that these techniques would have accomplished much in that discussion with your father. It is a certainty that Deepak Chopra came away from that debate without changing his views in the slightest. Where Harris's debate techniques have an effect is _on the audience,_ which will include many people who are undecided and are more open to being persuaded. This is true of many formal debates; it's not about convincing the person on the other side of the stage, since they wouldn't even be there if they weren't supremely confident in their views (like your father). It's about convincing the audience.
@bombazine2
5 жыл бұрын
MadJDMTurboBoost sometimes people like a religion because it just agrees with their own bigotry. If you’re a violent tattooed hard drinking motorcycle enthusiast, being a hells angel looks like the only true path!
@pre-packaged_9692
5 жыл бұрын
Maybe, just maybe, your father _can_ understand such a basic premise. Perhaps then it is you who cannot understand the basic premise of choosing to participate in a religion. Maybe. Not religious or spiritual or w/e btw, but I'm also not dumb enough to think I am smarter than the people comprising the almost entirely nonsecular history of human culture.
@MadJDMTurboBoost
5 жыл бұрын
@@pre-packaged_9692 you dont have to be dumb to assume you're smarter than previous generations. The engineering curriculum I learn in university now is definitely more correct than what was taught, say 500 years ago. The difference is that I take my knowledge from modern textbooks and theories, where the religious derive their knowledge from books that are thousands of years old. A time of mass illiteracy and intellectual darkness. Maybe it is true that I have a hard time agreeing with his choices of indoctrinating his children and forcing me to believe in a creator who would put his creation through an eternal hell for some finite transgressions. But at least I know that my morality stems from modern understanding and is constantly changing to better fit new perspectives, where as his archaic morals have remained unchanged for millennia.
@bombazine2
5 жыл бұрын
MadJDMTurboBoost most excellent reply sir!
@cluckeryduckery261
5 жыл бұрын
To sum it up... don't let your opponent get away with bullshit. This usually results in getting blocked on Twitter, which I always view as a sign of victory.
@henriquepacheco7473
4 жыл бұрын
@@dan78789 If someone was undecided on the topic in question, and reading through those tweets, I'd wager they'd most likely be convinced by the person who got blocked because the other couldn't argue back. Almost never a debate will result in both parties agreeing at the end, but the side that can convince the audience is still, in a broad manner of speaking, the winner.
@nabeel9187
4 жыл бұрын
I agree with the both comments in this thread.
@randomrandom450
4 жыл бұрын
You clearly never been harassed on the internet... I'm pretty sure that someone like Richard Dawkins is fed up to argue with young earth morons. When you get asked the same stupid question again and again and again, it ways simpler to just block. I don't know you so I can't say it's your case, but life is not just an eternal debate.
@cluckeryduckery261
4 жыл бұрын
@@randomrandom450 ah yes. Because it's possible for anyone that's active on the internet these days to have never been harassed.
@randomrandom450
4 жыл бұрын
@@cluckeryduckery261 Soooo.... I guess you understand how someone could block someone else ?
@meritahrustanovic2359
5 жыл бұрын
i will never understand how harris restraints himself from rolling his eyes all the time. just listening to his opponent gave me headache and frustration
@Antank8
4 жыл бұрын
I think it's it's both a combination of lack of patience and lack of tolerance to hearing stupidity (stupidity being things that we consider to be illogical)
@mrloop1530
10 ай бұрын
@meritahrustanovic Will you marry me?
@Siska0Robert
3 жыл бұрын
"lvl.1 crook vs lvl.35 boss" intro had me in tears.
@jamesg.1144
4 жыл бұрын
I know I'm late to this party but how are we not saying "quacktics"
@ellis3320
3 жыл бұрын
And I know I’m late to the party but I gotta give you a virtual high five ✋ on that one chief 😂 well done
@sebastianfeuerstein9306
3 жыл бұрын
Good point 😂
@patrik79a
3 жыл бұрын
Excellent!
@TheLacedaemonian300
5 жыл бұрын
Sam Harris would have made a great attorney, but I'm glad he didn't go in that direction.
@TheLacedaemonian300
5 жыл бұрын
@Main Street Boxer Solid point! I rest my case.
@xensonar9652
5 жыл бұрын
His accountant is also glad he didn't go in that direction.
@ryandaly3680
5 жыл бұрын
He would have been a better attorney than an attorney. If only attorneys were commonly also scientists. Fewer false convictions in the US.
@Ward413
5 жыл бұрын
His cross examinations would be fire.
@p.chuckmoralesesquire3965
5 жыл бұрын
he would have made a great banker, grifter, insurance person, but isntead he decided to be a youtube pseudo intellectual. sam "im too smart too talk loud" harris.
@craiginzana
5 жыл бұрын
Harris is pretty good at not being an asshole and just trying to have productive discourse. He disagrees with someone’s ideas or the way they are presenting the ideas but rarely if ever attacks the person’s character or personality.
@lSomeRandomGuyl
5 жыл бұрын
Agreed. His calm demeanor and ability to stay on track are an inspiration.
@jebemtigolaz
5 жыл бұрын
There's no need to attack a person because that is fallacious reasoning and is almost always going off topic. Character assasination is a tactic of quacks. This is how you weed out the idiots from reasonable people. The first thing idiots do is ignore the point and include you in the "counter" argument. Also, the problem with American debates is their heuristics and the way they treat debates as competitions. People are compelled to use fallacious reasoning in order to convince the audience to agree with them. This prompts some people to be dishonest in debates, because it is more akin to a popularity contest than having an actual debate. Which is also why you have tons of people trying to come up with "comebacks" instead of adressing arguments.
@notreme
5 жыл бұрын
If someone start personal attack it means that he/she lost the debate. he is good and respectful guy.
@luqmanghazi2385
5 жыл бұрын
The Moment he made jokes about that other guy is the moment your argument falls out
@v.sandrone4268
5 жыл бұрын
But Hitch was much more fun to watch when he got into his stide.
@billkeon880
5 жыл бұрын
Yeah Deepak knows what he’s doing. He’s an international con-man. He’ll use any angle to bolster his argument
@albertrogers2506
4 жыл бұрын
It really bugs me, as a supporter of WETA, when they put on quacks like Chopra at the times of their funding drives!
@duderama6750
3 жыл бұрын
@@albertrogers2506 PBS is just another CIA propaganda outlet.
@SoI_Badguy
3 жыл бұрын
Considering how much money it has made him, I can't really blame him. I would probably do the same thing.
@nabuk3
3 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure to what extent Deepack is a deliberate con artist, or actually believes a lot of his woo-woo BS. Sometimes when people repeat lies long enough, they come to believe them.
@synthetictechnocrat9270
4 жыл бұрын
6:46 If he offered me a short course on quantum mechanics, I would immediately drop all of my pride and take him up on that...
@kyufc3s
3 жыл бұрын
Deepak: iamverysmart Sam (an actual smart guy): oh look, we got a smart guy here...see? No one cares.
@roflmows
5 жыл бұрын
love the physicist in the crummy red t-shirt. real people don't dress up like peacocks as "proof" of their importance...their proof is in their expertise. unlike politicians and other phonies. my dad was fond of saying "beware of guys in suits--they either want to ask for your money, or just take it."
@davidanderson9664
5 жыл бұрын
Good point, but all muscle-jacked up and with his credentials he's clearly a guy whose big into DOMINATION! THat's not an attractive trait BUT his psychology doesn't really have anything to do with ideas which seem to be firm.
@laychyetan7466
4 жыл бұрын
It depends man. If you managed to get the nobel prize ( for the hard sciences and not peace / literature or economic confusion ) I would think it is proper to show up in the required attire. Being dressed for the occasion is also respect for others and the event.
@FactoryofRedstone
4 жыл бұрын
Well, it's a very physicist thing to not care to much about how you are dressed and how you look.
@abhrajitdhar4628
4 жыл бұрын
And the guy is a big deal too he co-authored a book with Stephen Hawking
@CreamFreshCream
4 жыл бұрын
He's Leonard Mlodinow. He's a very good and respected teoretical physicist.
@chrisunguez
5 жыл бұрын
According to Guinness, Sam has the world’s strongest raised-eyebrow game
@aick
5 жыл бұрын
WHOA! That wasn't just any physicist! That was Leonard Mlodinow! Wow.
@arkyudetoo9555
2 ай бұрын
Tell me you're a nerd without telling me you're a nerd....
@rikorobinson
3 жыл бұрын
Dude, you give me hope for humanity with all of your videos. I am a soon-to-be 40 year old lifelong Atheist. You are almost significantly younger than I, yet you have so much more wisdom than I ever had at your age (or than I possess today). You are an awesome human being. Thanks for helping people figure out how to digest their Atheism. I understand it can be difficult for people, particularly those of us who weren't blessed with parents like mine, that just never brought religion up. I imagine it's far harder to become an Atheist than to be one by default.
@rogerdeerdestroyerthompson9494
5 жыл бұрын
I am jeues
@rogerdeerdestroyerthompson9494
5 жыл бұрын
@MsKsmith1234 that means a lot to me. Thank you.
@kendama99
5 жыл бұрын
I came out to my best friend when I was 22, then a few months later to my parents. In both cases, the reaction was surprise but also love and support. I'm now 59 years old and I can honesty say it was the best decision I've ever made. Good luck on your journey. You made the right decision. There is enormous support out there. Just reach out and you'll find it. For the most part, religion is pretty homophobic; religious people who are not homophobic have to ignore parts of their religious texts in order to be okay with gay people. I have gay friends who are religious, which I find baffling; the mental gymnastics they must have to go through to square their sexuality with what scripture says must be torturous.
@rogerdeerdestroyerthompson9494
5 жыл бұрын
@@kendama99 thank you. I really hope I can recover and I think I can.
@slegyras
5 жыл бұрын
I wish you a wonderful life with lots of love and support.
@nickvandenbrande2313
5 жыл бұрын
Hi man, that an horrible story. And is the root why 'm anti- thiest . The reasons why religious people can expell there loved ones for something they can not proof is a root cause of evil to me, and stuff like that makes me feel said because my family and friends is all what I have. And I can be what ever I'm around them.. I did not realize that was a privilege untill I inspected religion. It should not be privilege. Be who you are mate, find people who accept you. If not I will adopt you
@heinzguderian9980
5 жыл бұрын
Why does mathematics explain nature so precisely? Maybe because mathematics is built on nature. We didn't create mathematics first and then find out that mathematics explains nature. We built mathematics to help explain nature. This is a fucking silly question to ask.
@mycount64
5 жыл бұрын
actually there is more mathematics that explains nothing... It so happens that it is a great tool for explaining nature. Very often math that is know then experiments reveal there is a mathematical equation that already exists to model the experiment. The place where math is missing is bridge between classical and quantum phenomena. My guess is we need a new math to bridge the gap. The same thing happened with Newton and Liebenitz who discovered calculus back in the day.
@natevanderw
5 жыл бұрын
Math is something that is completely abstract, nature is not. It doesn't exist in the same universe as nature. Math is a collection of truths derived from a choice of set theory axioms that are self consistent. That is all math is.
@JM-us3fr
5 жыл бұрын
While that may have been the first initial motivation for studying mathematics, I think your answer oversimplifies it. Ask any mathematician, and they will say mathematics is discovered, not invented. That being said, I think the actual answer is just as trivial: mathematics explains nature because anything that makes sense can be explained with mathematics. If mathematics couldn't explain nature, then nature wouldn't (fundamentally) make any sense.
@isodoubIet
5 жыл бұрын
"This is a fucking silly question to ask. " Wigner didn't think so. It is entirely non-obvious that nature will have to follow anything we could describe as "rules", and it is entirely non-obvious that the tools we came up with using natural effects as inspiration would turn out useful for describing these effects. Sure aren't useful for describing the weather more than a few days in advance, for example. Moreover, the rules we are used to seeing everyday are _not_ the rules under which nature operates at a more fundamental level, so the idea that mathematics is somehow beholden to giving us answers is groundless.
@pinball1970
5 жыл бұрын
@Heinz No mathematics is built on logic, it stands on its own and represents nothing physical. Science uses it to describe concepts especially physics.
@LouisGedo
5 жыл бұрын
Facts and logic destroy quack nonsense every time
@jonathanfriedel
5 жыл бұрын
That used to be the case, but look at Washington today... quack and nonsense is running the free world.
@KeithCooper-Albuquerque
5 жыл бұрын
@Trolltician Is there any actual air on your planet?
@BellaBarossa
5 жыл бұрын
@@KeithCooper-Albuquerque Probably not. Strawmen don't need air.
@Jalfred92
5 жыл бұрын
Louis Gedo, hero of the vegan community, spreading his message far and wide.
@jiggerypokery3761
5 жыл бұрын
If that was true there would be no quacks and people wouldn't have to study techniques about how to debate with them.
@FlyingFox86
4 жыл бұрын
Hang on 6:40, I always assumed this was just some random physicist when I watched this clip, but today I recognized the name. He's the co-author of The Grand Design together with Stephen Hawking! I just started rereading it 2 days ago. Though, to be fair, no theoretical physicist, no matter how random, is going to turn out to be some nobody without publications.
@malemnganbiayekpam6789
5 жыл бұрын
deepak chopra ....reminds me of the old saying " a little learning is a dangerous thing"
@dessertstorm7476
5 жыл бұрын
If you want an example of staying on topic, see Harris' first podcast with Jordan Peterson, where they fail completely to talk about anything because they cannot get past the fact that Peterson does not believe in objective truth, and Harris, unable to see the point of discussing anything further if they can't even agree on what "truth" is presses the point for (what feels like) an hour.
@Everyyoueverymiau
5 жыл бұрын
Dessert Storm thanks for the recommendation. Is it this one: #62 - WHAT IS TRUE?
@jirkazalabak1514
5 жыл бұрын
The problem is that Peterson´s concept of "moral truth" kind of underlines most of his other ideas. And even if it didn´t, how can you have a discussion with someone who defines a concept as basic as "truth" diferrently?
@Jay-vp3kk
5 жыл бұрын
It's honestly a great podcast in the way it exposes Petersson's quackery. Maybe not for other productive reasons, but for that if nothing else.
@Jay-vp3kk
5 жыл бұрын
@Matthew Petto What the fuck are you talking about, did you even listen to the podcast. Harris spends the entire hour defining truth as objective reality while Petersson spends it explaining his meta-story truth trying to define truth as that which is good for you and whatever nonsense he's talking about. Either you're trolling or you're speaking out of your ass. Go watch the podcast.
@dessertstorm7476
5 жыл бұрын
@Matthew Petto you obviously didn't listen to the podcast.
@josephabrams8529
5 жыл бұрын
Ooh, I love Leonard Mlodinow! He’s a terrific physicist and writer! So cool to see him show up (however briefly) in this video. He actually has another talk with Deepak Chopra about Quantum Mechanics vs Quantum Mysticism. I also recommend reading his collaborations with Stephen Hawking such as “The Grand Design” and his own works like “The Drunkard’s Walk” and “Subliminal.”
@bofbob1
4 жыл бұрын
He ended up writing a book with Chopra. I forget the title. War of the Worldviews? Something like that.
@abdirisakmussevids
5 жыл бұрын
+100 for intro
@againandagain174
4 жыл бұрын
And a pewdiepie
@rhouser1280
4 жыл бұрын
I could use every technique & still loose every argument with my wife.
@gargantuan4696
4 жыл бұрын
Can’t steelman a woman since only God knows what they’re thinking
@terryboot7777
3 жыл бұрын
Well that's because she is always right.
@Tenchi707
Жыл бұрын
Because as Bill Burr said when they realize they are right they argue the point when they're realize they're wrong, they go off road and say something you're sensitive about and you call them something and it's over
@michaelmeszaros6982
5 жыл бұрын
Deepak failed to show up at a debate once and, they replaced him with a 100 pound bag of fertilizer. VERY MUCH MORE EFFECTIVE AND CLEAR REASONING. RockOn, GMS..
@KnakuanaRka
3 жыл бұрын
Talk about being full of shit! (Ba dum tss) 😂🤣xD
@Chew1964
5 жыл бұрын
Have you seen the Chopra random quote generator? It has a quiz feature where you have to guess whether it’s a real Chopra quote or a randomly generated quote. You should do a live stream collaboration with someone and take turns quizzing each other.
@flankspeed
5 жыл бұрын
Oh, I am looking that up right now.
@getasimbe
5 жыл бұрын
@@YY4Me133 That's not it though. That's Peterson.
@CGoldthorpe
5 жыл бұрын
SO FUNNY! wait where?
@jilliansmith7123
5 жыл бұрын
getasimbe: THANKS! Fun to play with.
@jilliansmith7123
5 жыл бұрын
"Water is intrinsically wet once you pass the event horizon."
@RamkrishanYT
5 жыл бұрын
Can you please contact and arrange an interview with Jesus Christ? He seems to have a similar past as you and going through some very rough times recently. We can all retweet to him under some common hashtag if you're interested in trying to arrange such a thing.
@applesong01
5 жыл бұрын
Yes
@chantolove
5 жыл бұрын
For a moment I did not realize you were talking about the Fiverr guy.
@saad1653
5 жыл бұрын
Do It!!
@jacobcox1485
5 жыл бұрын
This
@Jackb290
5 жыл бұрын
Yes!
@Bri_1219
5 жыл бұрын
I've been trying to figure out why half of Africa is missing on your map for quite some time now and I'm ashamed to admit it took me this goddamn long to realize you've got a laptop on your desk. 😂
@Jeff121456
5 жыл бұрын
He has something against southern Africa and New Zealand.
@margaretjohnson6259
5 жыл бұрын
Briana1219. you aren't the only one who wondered about africa on genetically modified skeptic's channel. took me a while, too.
@fruitenantcolonel9207
5 жыл бұрын
It's because you weren't looking with your soul eye.....
@steveswangler6373
Жыл бұрын
while i appreciate Sam Harris ignoring deepak faking being offended, Christopher Hitchens still has the greatest response to babies crying about being offended. "ok, i'm still waiting for your point."
@reksfoleur859
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, Sam Harris, the guy dares to use the "none of us is a phycist here" argument, and yet when he speaks about social issues (i.e. "black crimes") and US imperialism, and he does it as if he was an expert in those domains, he "lectures" people on those topics.. the audacity. The guy should apply his own reasoning to himself and not just to appear bright in front of Deepak (who is even less than a hack...). Harris was not even able to debate with Chomsky, because the latter was "too mean" to him.. what a joke. I think someone like Dawkins is much more interesting in the form and substance than Sam harris when it comes to debating charlatans (even tho I am not a fan of Dawkins).
@rileysmith4595
3 жыл бұрын
Maybe a fair criticism, although I think the comparison of physics to social issues is maybe not a fair one. Physicists are experts in their fields because of the complexity of a very specific subject that most people can’t digest easily. In moments of disagreement or contention, we refer to the experts who are the most knowledgeable in the area of expertise. Social issues are a much more abstract science, and have much to do about perceived morality and opinion.
@reksfoleur859
3 жыл бұрын
@@rileysmith4595 I see what you are saying :-) But I disagree with your final statements that "social issues [...] have much to do about perceived morality and opinion". Studies carried on social issues are really spot on. I will take one example, Sam Harris is a big proponent of the Bell Curvre from Charles Murray, he has defended the book, even tho there have been plenty of rebuttals from many experts (social experts, biologists etc.). Stephen Jay Gould (among others) has done a great job at showing how stupid the book his. Yet, Harris does not consider those stronger cases. The same goes with the statistics of level of criminality in the US, Sam Harris goes with the "13/50" argument happily and does believe that Black people don't behave well with the police (which is not the case for white people), making it logical they get killed more often... But data do not suggest what he says (Conservatives and far rights agree tho...). Sam Harris very often wants to fit facts/data into his worldview. He is not different from Ben Shapiro in that regard. No wonder he was part of the "Intellectual Dark Web".
@sin5130
2 жыл бұрын
@@reksfoleur859 uh Sam's point was never that the book, the 'The Bell Curve' was accurate. what sam said, was people shouldn't be blindly called racists based off what they suggest and he emphasized the importance of free speech in university. if you don't know Murray was assaulted by a group of angry blacks who were angry. this is just not acceptable. period.
@reksfoleur859
2 жыл бұрын
@@sin5130 Sam Harris is literally favorable to the idea that IQ & races is a thing.. which has been debunked by academia in every way. The link btwn level of IQ & race is one of the central tenets of the book, so he agrees with it (and in other parts). Just listen to the "Forbidden Knowledge" podcast. It is not just a matter of free speech in his case. Angry blacks? At Middlebury incident? The students who protested were not "angry blacks"... I wonder why you would say that...
@thebatmanover9000
5 жыл бұрын
I enjoyed seeing him hand Ben Shipero's ass to him.
@jirkazalabak1514
5 жыл бұрын
Can you provide a link, please? I would love to see that.
it was fun to see...but he lost that debate sadly. Ben schooled him that day
@thebatmanover9000
5 жыл бұрын
@@notreme I can hook you up with a number to help with your crack addiction if you would like.
@notreme
5 жыл бұрын
@@thebatmanover9000 there is this comment on your link that sums it up : "Fennec Besixdouze Most interesting part, easily, didn't start until 1:36:50. "The problem with religion, for me, is that the better angels of our nature are often better than the doctrines that seem to inform much of human morality. People don't come into this world eager to stone other people to death for thought crimes." -- Sam Harris. This is basically Sam Harris' entire philosophy of atheism in a nutshell and my god, it is so, so, so, SOOOOOO wrong. People are born with the innate desire to stone people. People aren't born with a deep devotion to reason and restraint that Sam Harris is so deeply attached to. They have to be taught it. Sam Harris was taught it, because he grew up in a society based on thousands of years of developed tradition rooted in Western civilization, including primarily the religious traditions of Judaism and Christianity as they have been developed in the West. And by the way, Islam is not all that bad: there was a golden age of Islam where it was moderate and scientific and discovered great and important moral principles. And guess what: it lost them. When Sam goes on to talk about this idea that religion "prevents people from developing the moral framework because it's anathema to question the dogma", he is talking about a very specific type of religion: dogmatic/reform/orthodoxy/purism. And yes there are some dogmatic orthodox, purists in Western Christianity, but they are really rather minor in its history and development. Sam is unduly obsessed with them. In Islam, of course, the purists took over, and they ended the golden age of Islam and plunged it into a dark age that it is still in. It's very important to have moderates and people who understand religion in a broader scope in order to prevent that from happening to Western society. But right now the threat is more of people who follow Sam Harris' idiotic idea that we should throw away all of our traditions and morality should be based on innate feelings that he ignorantly and idiotically thinks are "better" and "btw also we're born with them" lmfao. No, we aren't. How about actually ask someone who is an expert on developmental psychology, like Jordan Peterson. He'll explain quite clearly how we are NOT born with "better angels". We are taught them.
@ProphetofZod
5 жыл бұрын
This is may be my favorite video you’ve made. It’s a very insightful look at how to interact with charlatans/apologists, and I think most skeptics who are going to participate in live interactions would benefit.
@p.chuckmoralesesquire3965
5 жыл бұрын
He should change the title of this video to "Why does Harris only look smart standing next to morons" ?
@joeytribbiani34
5 жыл бұрын
Justin The Fixer No, he shouldn't.
@phillipharrington9201
5 жыл бұрын
Allow a charlatan to give you all some practice on what you just learned. I will ask you how the universe came about, how earth got life support, and how life came about? Feel free to actually answer the questions and not go off on the “we don’t know” rant, every other ideology on earth knows the answer to these questions and they are quite basic ones at that.
@wgd7237
5 жыл бұрын
@@phillipharrington9201 The Flying Spaghetti Monster created the Universe, gave Earth the ability to support life, and put lifeforms on it.
@Gottenhimfella
5 жыл бұрын
@@phillipharrington9201 seems not to recognise the important difference between *knowing* answers to questions and *having* answers to them. It also seems to have escaped him that the answers "every other ideology"* have are all different, and mutually exclusive. Which suggests that they are almost certainly all wrong. At most, all but one. And of course, they all claim with exquisite solipsism, that they are that one. * Atheism is not an ideology. Some proclaimed atheists may be ideological, but that is not a property of atheism.
@artu2302
5 жыл бұрын
Once I argued with a "bar preacher." From past experience I found that when quacks make statements like this they are only 1/2 prepared; so knowing something extra can help. For example knowing the history of other mythology gave me the upper hand in the argument. So when the bar preacher brought up the resurrection, I brought up the story of the Egyptian god Horus and his resurrection. When he talked about Noah and the flood, even commenting on how it wasn't a boat but a large cubic structure, I'm told him about the epic of Gilgamesh. Then proceeded with literal examples of plagiarism that the Bible commits. and then going into the historic reasons why that plagiarism exist even sliding the rewrite of the story of Beowulf and Grendel. Knowing something extra is helpful in arguments. Not just points and counter points.
@Kartik-yi5ki
5 жыл бұрын
Advertisement was for "energy medicine". Just wow KZitem ad algorithm at its best
@KnakuanaRka
3 жыл бұрын
He’s done a video about large amounts of ads for evangelicals and such that show up on this channel; of course they want to target atheists to convert?
@morenitomoreno1282
5 жыл бұрын
Sam Harris is good at debunking religious quacks but when he comes to politics he is the quack
@clintonkinsey482
5 жыл бұрын
Thank you!!
@jamesdeanhernandez7864
5 жыл бұрын
He is! HaHaHa
@Danishmastery
4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it’s the unfortunate tendency to be confident in areas you’re not knowledgeable about.
@tincanstantheman
5 жыл бұрын
The debate with ham sarris vs roe jogan was another great example of these 4 tactics
@Heycool08
5 жыл бұрын
Ferris Booler DEMOLISHES Ham Jogan in a cage match MMA-style god debate on Febtober Sevent (reaction video)(flat earth)
@pault609
5 жыл бұрын
I absolutely loved the book on your desk, "Reference Guide for Essential Oils" with the "BS" sign above it! Everyday oils was a hilarious addition!
@davidcarter2379
5 жыл бұрын
Genetically Modified Skeptic: I've seen this whole video before. Your input has enhanced the conversation/debate. Thank you. Keep it up. Harris reminds me of Hitch. Facts not blue sky.
@treybaker5716
5 жыл бұрын
Hitchens was a warmonger and neo-con. Sam Harris is a charlatan and a fraud.
@pirateman1144
5 жыл бұрын
@@treybaker5716 is a thief and a furry.
@ryantate6447
3 жыл бұрын
@@treybaker5716 Muhammned was a warlord and a pedophile
@ZipMapp
3 жыл бұрын
I always steelman talking religion with my parents. I basically chase the goalpost for 30mins
@ScryptStudios1
4 жыл бұрын
I actually love all your videos (you were my gateway to Rationality Rules and CosmicSkeptic and others). Great content.
@PeterSchmuttermaier
5 жыл бұрын
I actually like to use the method of explanation: I explain to the person I am debating with - and everybody following the debate - what rethorical technique the other person just used to win the arguement and why it is fallacious. By calling them out with every rethorical move they never gain any ground. And at the same time look far inferior. A simple technique I am using extensively is asking generall questions like "Really?" and "Is that so?" to invite them to talk more about their standpoint so I can get more angles to counter attack as well as "What do you EXACTLY mean by that?" to force them to leave their nebula of vague statements which enables me then to nail those statements down. I have written a small book on that topic, but at this time it's only available in German - English translation is in the making.
@dpgarman
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Keep up the great work. I always learn something.
@PaulHoward108
5 жыл бұрын
I'm not a physicist either, but one famous physicist (J. Robert Oppenheimer) said, “Access to the Vedas is the greatest privilege this century may claim over all previous centuries." This is unsurprising to students of the Vedas, since it presents a coherent theory of everything, which naturalistic science is unable to achieve.
@christopherstockhaus9596
5 жыл бұрын
The only defense against bad arguments is Essential Oils
@30110CKs
3 жыл бұрын
"the eyes of the soul......" oh deary me.
@TheBabylonProject
5 жыл бұрын
lmfao "lv 1 Crook."
@gerardo49078
5 жыл бұрын
LOL
@MartyVentura
4 жыл бұрын
It took me 7 minutes to spot the essential oils in the background, bravo! XD Regarding debates I'd add, I believe another good segment for this topic would be when Hitch calls out Harol Kushner for trivialising circumcision. Kushner makes a joke about how a child cried more at his first hair cut than at his briss in a disgusting attempt to trivialise it, however Hitch uses that exact joke to expose the ludicaracy of such practices and the immoral actions performed by those of a religious persuasion. Excellent video, first one of yours I've seen. Won't be the last!
@lightbeforethetunnel
2 жыл бұрын
That first argunent from Harris is Unbelievable. Harris is widely known for writing books on philosophy as a scientist, while applying the scientific method these philosophical topics beyond the scope of scientific inquiry which is known as scientism. He even has a book called *The Moral Landscape: How science can determine human values* Definition of scientism - Scientism is the opinion that science and the scientific method are the best or only objective means by which people should determine normative and epistemological values. Scientism is when people inappropriately apply the scientific method beyond where it can possibly apply. Yet, here is in this video claiming others are inappropriately tackling topics beyond their specialty (when they're not) while simultaneously claiming he would never do that... when it's what he has built his career on doing. I am seriously in utter disbelief at the level of psychological projection and hypocrisy displayed.
@adoctorsbro
5 жыл бұрын
Sam Harris is so smart he got other people to complete his doctoral work. A very good role model for us all, for sure.
@anarki4717
5 жыл бұрын
Please tell me you filmed this with pants on
@NicoVeenkamp
5 жыл бұрын
Anarki471 Glad I’m not the only for that thought to cross a mind.
@mav8535
5 жыл бұрын
@@darthutah6649 Who doesn't?
@ergolineL
5 жыл бұрын
Darth Utah 66 I would definitely go gay for Harris, wait, I am gay. Nvm.
@thewiedzmin6062
5 жыл бұрын
Does he have legs?
@basilharrison3071
5 жыл бұрын
Please tell me he didn't
@gordonyork6638
5 жыл бұрын
For a young man as youself, i am deeply proud and happy that you actually think.
@inyobill
5 жыл бұрын
When I comment on fishy videos, I often get replies. I try really hard to comment explicitly on statements and ideas, citing relevant sources as appropriate. I don't make personal comments. As conversations develop, and I call the other person on their failure to back up their own statemnts, and point out when they stray on their comments, and reply explicitly to their criticisms of mine, they pretty regularly devolve to spluttering, calling me names and criticizing irrelevant things (such as the public name I chose to present). At that point, I point out that they have conceded any argument and thank them. The name calling gets pretty wild from there on, but I ignore them after that.
@ryanmorgan1579
5 жыл бұрын
My problem with Harris is that he comes from the Ben Shapiro school of debate, throw a lot of wild unverifiable viewpoints at someone and force them to debunk them in a short span of time without any prior research. He's also woefully ignorant of the complexities of geo-politics, the history of U.S. military intervention in the middle east, pseudoscience like eugenics, and other factors that have contributed to radicalization beyond just "religion makes people evil". Take for instance the rise of white nationalism in the United States, which I don't think anyone, including Harris, would argue is exclusively the product of religious dogma. To me that reeks of hypocrisy on Harris's part.
@markh1011
5 жыл бұрын
You're attacking a simplified version of Harris says. There is a bit more to his arguments than "religion makes people evil". Your accusing Harris of resorting to a gish gallop. Shapiro is a master of that. Harris however tends to speak pretty slowly and labors points, often for too long, instead of rapidfire claims.. _"To me that reeks of hypocrisy on Harris's part."_ No it just means there are many bad ideologies in the world....there are some bad ideas in religion...and white nationalism...
@CastleVaniak
5 жыл бұрын
He's not ignorant he has alot in common with neocons and Hitchens who also supported the wars in the Middle East
@bundleofperceptions1397
5 жыл бұрын
What you fail to see is that Harris's comment that he would not lecture 1,000 people at Cal Tech because he's not a physicist, and neither is Deepak Chopra, is not a steal man, but a straw man. Deepak Chopra didn't lecture on physics, what he lectured is that the properties quantum physicists claim to have discovered can be seen as very similar to the properties practitioners of some Eastern religions have claimed to have discovered through meditation. You don't have to be a physicist to notice similarities in the claims of quantum physics and a supernatural practice.
@selfawaremeatpuppet413
5 жыл бұрын
Man your skin is so silky perfect, what essential oils do you use?
@purplefood1
5 жыл бұрын
Silent Lamb moisturizer
@SSj5Bob
5 жыл бұрын
You can clearly see them in the background, he uses the blue one, the darker blue one, the red one, the darker red one, and the big one. Those are the most important essential oils they can use because of the way they stimulate your chakras and promote vital energies and shit.
@rasmusengstrom4683
5 жыл бұрын
Tardyclock I see someone missed the joke
@SSj5Bob
5 жыл бұрын
@@rasmusengstrom4683 Essential Oils are no joke, I've been using darker blue and big one essential oils for years and can confidently attribute any and all success I've had since that moment to those oils. The only joke here is you, failing to understand how red essential oils will realign your karmic energy forces and harmoniously rearrange your quantum... stuff.
@MarshallTheArtist
5 жыл бұрын
Rasmus Engström, yes, you.
@scientious
4 жыл бұрын
You failed to mention one glaring problem. No one on that stage was an expert in free will or consciousness and that included Harris himself. Yet, that fact didn't stop Harris from writing his book on free will which was as arrogant and unscientific as anything Chopra said. In other words, you don't get to praise Harris' hypocrisy. Yes, Harris did point out problems with Chopra's pseudo-philosophical/pseudo-scientific/intuitive nonsense but still fails to avoid these problems in his own work. I'm guessing the reason why you didn't mention this fact is because you rely on the same pseudo-scientific/pseudo-philosophical/intuitive garbage when you try to talk about free will as do your KZitem colleagues.
@stylishskater92
4 жыл бұрын
Well, its hard to be called an "expert" in free will since what is the basis for this? You make it sound like this is an PhD one can acquire. Consciousness can maybe be tied together with some directions of Neurology, there are researchers for that.
@scientious
4 жыл бұрын
@@stylishskater92 Are you trying to use special pleading? It's bad when Chopra pulls claims out of his ass, but okay when Sam does it? The basis for free will is science. The fact that Sam is ignorant of this science does not excuse his arrogance.
@Arcrer
5 жыл бұрын
When you go out to debate discuss, make sure you turn your mind clock two hours counterquackwise.
@rbbeautylife9093
5 жыл бұрын
Became a Christian a while back. Started going to prayer meetings every wed, church every Sunday, Sunday school teaching and missions. I started learning the koran so I could minister to muslims to convert them. I jumped full in. Jesus was my life. Bible study twice a week. I memorized scripture. I spoke to god daily. I prayed. Thanked god daily even when bad things happened. Drove my family crazy!! I was "that person". One day I walked into church. There was a banner that said, jesus is lord. I had saw it a million times. Yet that day something happened. I had thought about the Koran and the bible. I had thought about Horus. It was like the sun hit my face. All of those years suddenly seemed like a farce. I have not walked into a church to worship since. I often wonder why. What happened? It was out of my control. My brain rejected it all of a sudden.
@Arphemius
5 жыл бұрын
Horus must've opened your eyes. It's the only thing that makes sense considering the sequence of events. All hail the bringer of spring, ruler of the skies, the winged god, Horus!
@rbbeautylife9093
5 жыл бұрын
kzitem.info/news/bejne/lnyIlmyHraiSo4I Its amazing the similarities. I think I just started questioning slowly, then one day I just stopped believing.
@wiretamer5710
5 жыл бұрын
Feelings are just chemicals in your brain doing what they do... do not ever trust your feelings because your feelings don't even know you exist.
@Arphemius
5 жыл бұрын
@@wiretamer5710 Well, you can trust things that don't know you exist. It's more that feelings don't really correspond to reality, which makes them absolutely treacherous if you rely on them to make a decision. They are part of who you are though, so that's why you often describe them when you describe anything that happens to you. So if you do make a decision, you will often describe the feelings that precipitated and followed it when you're relaying that decision to someone else. So I don't think he was wrong in his process at all, if that's what you were implying.
@mef12727
5 жыл бұрын
Welcome to reality. Enjoy
@sigmascrub
3 жыл бұрын
If you've majored in anything REMOTELY science-related, you've studied physics, chemistry, and biology. I've studied those three as an electrical engineer, my mom did as a nurse, and my girlfriend as a computer scientist. Furthermore, if you have a college degree (including those "socialist, post-modernist, neomarxist" degrees), you've studied at least one of those. And these are just the base requirements for UNDERGRAD degrees. This is one of those statements which is banking on the ignorance of its audience.
@theconservativechristian7308
5 жыл бұрын
I’d just like to point out that Harris isn’t a physicist and admits that, but then immediately proceeds to lecture the people he’s talking to that they don’t know what they are talking about as if he knows what he is talking about. He’s implying that he knows better even though he just stated that he would NEVER lecture the audience in his ignorance. So it’s an attempt to seem humble, but it’s really moral posturing so he can make fun of his opposition. That’s what I got out of it anyway.
@karlscher5170
3 ай бұрын
He lectured them about their ignorance, which is fair.
@TheRewiredSoul
5 жыл бұрын
awesome video, man. Harris is the man
@jenspetter1454
5 жыл бұрын
and youre the man, and hes the man everyone is the man
@santosd6065
5 жыл бұрын
Harris is fantastic at debating dingbats, goofballs, quacks and theists.... in other words, shallow frauds. When it comes to debating actual people with intellect and integrity... not so much. Hence his dwindling popularity now that half his audience have become Proud Boys, and the other half Trumpist imbeciles.
@hurkamur1
5 жыл бұрын
@@santosd6065 This, paired with the fact that he tours the country with a quack charlatan.
@stylis666
5 жыл бұрын
@@jenspetter1454 You're right and when you're right, you're right and you, you're always right! My mom's not a man though, but she's awesome. She the man!
@Luftgitarrenprofi
5 жыл бұрын
@@santosd6065 Harris doesn't often "debate" actual intellectuals and intelligent people (he has fruitful conversations with them on his podcast though), because he doesn't need to since they're already on his side of the argument. An example for an exception to that is Maajid Nawaz, but they're best friends now and even wrote a book together. Noam Chomsky and their eMail exchange would be another that never developed into a public conversation about something meaningful though (Chomsky didn't seem to want one). Also the method Harris uses works universally no matter whom he converses with since everyone is prone to making fallacious appeals, including the most intelligent and rational people on this planet and it's excellent at keeping people on the spot when they're guilty of making such appeals.
@jeffwatkins352
5 жыл бұрын
As always, Drew, your calm, generous, and measured presentation of the issues is a deeply refreshing tonic to the world's chaotic bibble-babble. With so much quackery in the world, your contribution to banishing such nonsense in this remarkably kind and thoughtful way is...well, a tonic to human failings of all kinds. Thank you from one who desperately seeks to defeat his own potential (or real) quackery.
@ProperZen
3 жыл бұрын
Watched this when it came out and watching it a year later. Still great. The opening is lol funny and a tight, insightful script. Love watching your channel grow, your interests widen and the god-tier lighting of your current videos.
@cthudo
5 жыл бұрын
I think the "you're not a physicist, so you can't speak on these matters" maneuver does not deserve to be recommended. In that particular discussion with Chopra it happened to pay off. But the problem is not only that sometimes lay people can and should be able to have deeper knowledge on foreign subject matters, it's that sometimes the quacks *do* have a serious scientific background. Imagine it would have been Roger Penrose instead of Deepak Chopra on that stage. Penrose is literally a world-renowned physicist, and insidiously he uses that very fact to spout exactly the same garbage as Chopra. And then what? You'd have to attack someone like that on the merits of their arguments, not based on what their PHD subject was, even if it means getting into details about their claims.
@soilmanted
5 жыл бұрын
I didn't find Harris technique of pointing out that Chopra was not a theoretical physicist at all convincing. That was an appeal to authority, or at most an appeal to certification of expertise, rather than citing evidence, observation, or facts. In fact, by doing what he did, it made me distrust Harris' assertions. Chopra may be a quack, but Harris came across as an authoritarian. Harris is correct in saying scientists don't speak with confidence or from authority, but what Harris did here is just the opposite of what he said scientists do.
@Objectivityiskey
5 жыл бұрын
I just spent this week teaching my high school music students to think critically. They fought me every inch of the way, though by the time their Friday class ended, they were in the deep calling each other out for making fallacious statements. After observing their verbal presentations, I can demonstrate that all of my students, that participated in this activity, have improved their personal critical thinking skills by at least 90%. Many of them can now utilize Blooms Taxonomy to not only develop a proper argument, but to also use concrete evidence to justify their truth claims. The one concern I have, is that many of them will go home this weekend, they will have an introspective moment, and realize that their God is a delusion. This is a good thing, but their community will shun them for this realization, and that is why I am concerned for their continued cognitive development. Inner-city schools are a very thin rope to walk.
@GamesFromSpace
3 жыл бұрын
That makes you sound like an awful music teacher.
@nikitakazakevic1928
2 жыл бұрын
Do not stop go further and collect more POWER!
@willyh.r.1216
5 жыл бұрын
I fully enjoy your video....thank you so much. Harris is the guy who can conduct a productive discussion with a controlled composure.
@LifeThroughFilm35mm
5 жыл бұрын
Keep doing what you’re doing mate. We need more advocates for reason in these clouded times.
@AndreAngelantoni
5 жыл бұрын
Not sure why you are so impressed with Sam's debate tactics here. Instead of actually debating he just did whatever he could to avoid actually addressing Deepak's points. There are a billion Sam's out there who think they are smart but really just have a set of techniques they rely on to denigrate their opponents (particularly by undercutting their standing to even talk about the subject), avoid the subject at hand and score points with the audience. If the audience laughs, it's not because Sam has made some brilliant point. It's often because Sam has plucked their schadenfreude chord i.e. look at how my guy is beating the other guy because he says something I agree with! At any moment, I was half expecting Sam to pull a Trump and give Deepak a disparaging nickname. Deepak is not correct on many things. But non-experts in the field can absolutely see things the experts miss. Just because one isn't an expert doesn't mean their points are automatically invalid. Harris should educate himself on the topic and forthrightly address the points raised by Deepak-or bow out and find someone else who can. This video is the opposite of someone debating with integrity, actually.
@BXJ-mi9mm
5 жыл бұрын
How do you expect him to respond?
@wiretamer5710
5 жыл бұрын
Cute... how many unsubstantiated ad hominems can you cram into three paragraphs?
@dylanjacobs661
3 жыл бұрын
I don’t have a debate technique but I’d like say I love your channel and I’m also an atheist aswell . I converted when I was ten after crying my eyes out from fear of friend and family in hell. After that I confronted the idea of hell inside my mind . I couldn’t condone a god who would subject the creatures he created to such suffering .
@benjaminthomson
4 жыл бұрын
Sam Harris is a grifty quack too bro.
@olgachafeeva7615
3 жыл бұрын
How so?
@redelfshotthefood8213
5 жыл бұрын
This is very much a rewatchable video. Excellent job Drew!
@timothyinnocent3311
4 жыл бұрын
Genetically Modified Skeptic: Level 500 boss.
@joew8438
Жыл бұрын
I somewhat disagree that Sam Harris is the anti quack hero. He has certainly made some good points, but his style tends to lean on attack. You can see this particularly in his atheism debates where he frequently responds with a rant or with anti-theism, not with evidence from science, history or textual comparison. You see an example in the attack on Deepak Chopra. It's easy to cheer and claim he owned Chopra. Harris didn't present evidence or cite any science, he attacked Chopra. He does this over and over.
@rafal5863
Ай бұрын
Have to agree that it is most affective against low hanging fruit. All ideologies taken too far become low hanging fruit ripe for ridicule. Including scepticism which can end up in nihilism.
@cronistamundano8189
4 жыл бұрын
Leonard Mlodnow actually wrote some books for non-scientists and is a very good writer. His question to Chopra was absolutely a killer one.
@cheetooreo6636
3 жыл бұрын
Euclid's Window 🤩
@lefortkevin83
5 жыл бұрын
"Quackery" had me quacking up! 🤣🤣
@jabatochef7849
5 жыл бұрын
The poor woman who was at the side of Deepack, man she couldn't talk
@Subfightr
5 жыл бұрын
"Seeing through red herrings requires some pre experience" so absolutely correct, I'm about to stay up all night watching your damn videos now :/ looks like I'll calling in sick in the morning. Thank you for your hard work.
@davidhealey5735
4 жыл бұрын
Does it strike anyone else as a little hypocritical for Sam Harris to suggest that he would never presume to lecture on physics if he were not an academic physicist? When was the last time he published a paper in an ethics journal?
@arkyudetoo9555
2 ай бұрын
Because of Sam Harris we now use the term "Deepak Chopra'd..." and because of Jordan Peterson we now use the term "Kathy Newmanned"
@JiveDadson
5 жыл бұрын
At the end of this vid, I was treated to an ad for "energy medicine." Woo woo!
@godlessmallu
5 жыл бұрын
I got that ad before and in-between this video.
@UdoADHD
5 жыл бұрын
I didn’t know about Sam Harris but I am in love. I enjoy listening to people like Deepak but I cannot help but cringe when people like him being up “quantum physics” and I didn’t know how to... respond to it. Now I have Sam!
@OliverWendellBones
5 жыл бұрын
Sam Harris is my superhero. And, awesome job at showing his well practiced and effective debating techniques. You stated early in your video that you may not be an awesome debater, but it's clear to me that you will be if you're not, already, because of your study of the modern masters. I, for one, would not want to be an apologist going up against you. :D
@jirkazalabak1514
5 жыл бұрын
Not only that, he also works out, trains in martial arts and firearms. I for one was totally dumb-founded when I found that out. He is probably the closest thing to an actual Jedi that we are ever going to see. :)
@OliverWendellBones
5 жыл бұрын
He wasn't calling for a genocide...….. If you bothered to listen to the entire podcast, he was stating an argument from the position of someone else. He even uses the words, "Suppose you view this as..." If you truly think that Sam Harris supports genocide, then you need to do more research into Sam Harris. Before you post an argument like that, you should listen to the podcast instead of just listening to a clipped sound bite that chops out Harris clearly stating it was supposition, not his own belief.
@OliverWendellBones
5 жыл бұрын
What's the full paragraph quote?
@OliverWendellBones
5 жыл бұрын
I'm not saying you're lying. But, just from everything I know of Sam Harris' work and writings, I think you might be misunderstanding. I'll have to pick up this book. I've been meaning to, anyway. :D
@Lockjaw95
5 жыл бұрын
Carter Giacobini oh shut the fuck up that post was a cringefest
@ronpaulrevered
3 жыл бұрын
I think you have it all wrong. I think Deepak was being genuine when claiming he was offering a hypothesis and didn't want to portray himself as an expert in quantum mechanics. I would like to get to the bottom of Deepak's theory that Schermer made reference to, as well did the quantum theorist who said he would have a conversation with Deepak about his quotations from the field; which is, Does the quantum structure of reality have a monistic feature that connects all things together? "In what ways could this be meaningful?" is legitimate philosophical question. I wouldn't call Deepak's questions about epistemology "quackery". Sam is giving a demonstration on persuasion and rhetoric, but not technical argumentation or logic.
@roadhouse6999
Жыл бұрын
I love steel manning, and I'm glad I know a word for it now.
@eyebotsubject-x8270
5 жыл бұрын
This is like my first video hearing about quackery. Can anyone tell what exactly it is?
@stephendevore
4 жыл бұрын
Quackery (fair use intended): "dishonest practices and claims to have special knowledge and skill in some field, typically medicine". Quack (f.u.i.): "a person who dishonestly claims to have special knowledge and skill in some field, typically medicine". But here in the video, it might be used a bit loosey-goosey.
@D-me-dream-smp
4 жыл бұрын
Another excellent video that clearly and objectively manages to explain and demonstrate the incredibly important skill of critical thinking. I love the passion you show for encouraging people to consider and analyse the information they are given, a tool vital in this digital age of access to indiscriminate information which is frequently used in dishonest ways to promote their agenda.
@brianfinnegan664
5 жыл бұрын
Awww Hitchens, miss him so much
@lobstered_blue-lobster
3 жыл бұрын
I am sorry but Hitchens was a pro class quaker he would go out of topic most of the times to get a quick-witt joke to get the cheap upper hand at persuading the crowd. That isn't a good thing that is sophistic as much as I love Hitchens(his charm and his humour) I don't like how he becomes dishonest from time to times and defects questions like this, Sam Harris is much better in logical, productive and civillized discourses even when he is "debating" with a *thing* like Deepak Chopra.
@inyobill
Жыл бұрын
Almost impossible to find a primary care physician here in Germany that doesn't promote quackery.
@bjarnesegaard5701
4 жыл бұрын
Around the world children should be taught anti quackery and learn how to methodically weed out bs and lies. Starting at young age. The world needs that now more than ever.
@lillychamberlain1496
5 жыл бұрын
I love your random meme skits...
@kikivoorburg
5 жыл бұрын
Love the intro!
@juozapasjurksa1400
4 жыл бұрын
As a christian I'm thankful for these advices. I will definitely use them when arguing with my atheist friends.
@KjelleDealer
4 жыл бұрын
Just out of curiosity: How do you propose to steelman the atheist's position and debunk it in favor of a faith-based view?
@kimbo99
5 жыл бұрын
GeneticallyModifiedsSkeptic 1980s I personally knew Deepak Chopra before he was a superstar, in Sydney. He was then a successful MD doctor Specialist endocrinologist. In no way, shape or form, can he be called a QUACK. Or he would have lost his medical licence.He also became a TM teacher. Which is based on sound verified neuro science. He has also spent months in labs with physicists learning from them and having them vet his ideas. So his ideas are well informed. Harris says essentially we cant talk about a toothbrush unless we are a dentist. That our opinion is meaningless. But Sam Harris happily derides religions with no qualifications whatsoever. He is NOT a theologian. Theoretical Physicists like Stephen Hawking are quite happy to comment on religious matters such as afterlife, saying "its just for people who are afraid of the dark". On his website. Isnt he completely out of his field of expertise according to your hero Sam Harris?
@wiretamer5710
5 жыл бұрын
The world does not work like that. What these guys did in their past is irrelevant. You cannot be a surrealist with specialized scientific knowledge and expect to be treated seriously. If Deepak were attempting some sort of comic satire it would be funny, but he is not. He is claiming to have supernatural insight that gives him healing skills and that IS the footprint of a QUACK.
@KevJYT
3 жыл бұрын
Considering Sam Harris in unqualified on 3/4 of what he has written about... the criticism is rather ironic.
@siim605
3 жыл бұрын
You don't need to be a damn theologian to write books about religion.
@KevJYT
3 жыл бұрын
@@siim605 I was talking about his books, articles and debates in general... He is mostly unqualified even in his field (compared to actual neuroscientists, not "KZitem star/blogger with a PhD"), he is even more so in the other fields he attempts to stumble into.
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