As a backpacker looking to shed weight, yet have a safety net when facing the need for dry wood - this video is much appreciated.
@innerbarkoutdoors
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Jason
@MrPatagonicus
10 жыл бұрын
This is the first baton video that I've seen where someone creates a wedge first. Using that extra tool allows you to spare your knife's edge while still getting the job done. Having lived in the PNW for a few years, I know how hard it can be to find dry kindling, and this is a good way to get it. Great video, and you have yourself another subscriber.
@innerbarkoutdoors
10 жыл бұрын
It's one of the 6 "Simple Machines". Only makes sense to make one before you really need it :)
@Scarz-iu3lr
10 жыл бұрын
Some darned hard wood. Heck of a good knife. Good looking dog too.
@innerbarkoutdoors
5 жыл бұрын
*thumbs up*
@82DannyB
10 жыл бұрын
Great direction and reasoning, awesome job...sick of seeing reviewers and comparisons that just show how to abuse knives, will show my scout crew your videos
@innerbarkoutdoors
5 жыл бұрын
*thumbs up*
@tommylowe
10 жыл бұрын
Gotta say that is a very good idea using a wedge, never thought of that, thanks
@innerbarkoutdoors
5 жыл бұрын
*thumbs up*
@dennisleighton2812
2 жыл бұрын
Glad you highlighted the use of wedges - a highly underrated tool! One point though. I noted that the logs you were splitting seem to have been cut with an axe. To make life so much easier, it's useful to carry a folding saw. It is then much simpler to cut much shorter logs, which in turn are much easier to handle and split (using the wedge rather than the knife). But, I do take the point that you were demonstrating a technique, so well done. ( Question: for doing what you do, isn't a folding saw easier to manage than a forest axe?)
@SteveB357
10 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the information. I am 64 years old, and in my youth, you would never consider batoning with a knife. It just didn't work without ruining the knife. Also, in many batoning vids I have recommended using gluts (wooden wedges) and got big "huhs?" and vacant stares when I said it. Thank you for this video. From an old pioneering guy.
@innerbarkoutdoors
10 жыл бұрын
Hey Steve, Thanks for checking out the video, glad you found the channel! I try to keep the videos worth wile for the guys who know a thing or two already, and the guys who are just starting out. Seems like a lot of people forget the little things when teaching and I try to include them so people can succeed.
@BeSatori
9 жыл бұрын
Great point on the use in tight quarters. Most of the batoning I do is in front of my woodstove where my wife and I generally baton our smallest kindlin, not just for practice, but because its convenient.
@innerbarkoutdoors
5 жыл бұрын
*thumbs up*
@billystink4611
4 жыл бұрын
It’s crazy how many people forgot this method because of all the KZitem trends. Using the wedge is the way they tell you how to do it in survival books.
@innerbarkoutdoors
4 жыл бұрын
Loads of people really dislike the craft of batoning.... and just as many don't know how to do it properly to not harm the blade. I personally really like it, and can do it efficiently and correctly.
@futuresonex
10 жыл бұрын
That was the best batoning video I think I've seen Andy. Good job! And the more I watch you use it the more I want one of those Tahoma Field Knives!!!
@innerbarkoutdoors
5 жыл бұрын
*thumbs up*
@Siberius-
10 жыл бұрын
That was a great video, very informative and the use of the wedge is very practical.
@innerbarkoutdoors
5 жыл бұрын
*thumbs up*
@theswampdonkey963
10 жыл бұрын
Glad you showed this I always use a wedge to baton I start out with my knife then put the wedge in to help keep my knife in Pristine condition. I find it's easier as well because the wedge is thicker than my blade. Good vid
@innerbarkoutdoors
10 жыл бұрын
Thanks for checking it out!
@kevinoloane8848
8 жыл бұрын
+InnerBark Outdoors love your video
@kevinoloane8848
8 жыл бұрын
+InnerBark Outdoors love your video
@MarkJonesRanger
7 жыл бұрын
Good job on showing the wedge idea. I have had to batton on several occasions after backpacking after 3 days of rain where the only wood that would ignite was inside the tree. I teach a scouting type group. Battoning wood is the safest way (through my experience) to get dry wood to start a fire. I have 10 knives with battons setup at our big pow wows for the boys to learn battoning after 8 years of over 100 boys each year doing it first aid cuts are few and far between. Also teach it on our backpacks and survival campouts. Good techniques and a good job on the video as well.
@innerbarkoutdoors
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I appreciate some kind battoning comments hehe
@paulw131
9 жыл бұрын
so 3 weeks ago I watched this video. then bought a new 26 inch hatchet. worked fine but I couldn't get how much fun and how great it looked to just carry that 1 knife deep into the woods. so I watched this again. well guess what today I got my tops tahoma field knife delivered. man this thing is awesome I am going to use it on game and to build a bad ass fire in the pacific northwest.
@innerbarkoutdoors
9 жыл бұрын
+Paul W Welcome to the TFK team :)
@OilysHumbleHome
9 жыл бұрын
Great video. I was curious what this batoning thing I hear all the time was, so I finally looked it up and came across your video. Good job!
@innerbarkoutdoors
5 жыл бұрын
*thumbs up*
@BluebirdOutdoors
10 жыл бұрын
u said it man ... LIKE a BOSS ! :-) very cool video !
@innerbarkoutdoors
5 жыл бұрын
*thumbs up*
@jayops
10 жыл бұрын
Really useful video, thanks for sharing your knowledge!
@innerbarkoutdoors
5 жыл бұрын
*thumbs up*
@davesdiversions8078
4 жыл бұрын
Excellent tutorial. I recently purchased the Tahoma Field Knife and I very impressed with the design. Look forward to getting it out in the woods. Thanks for the video.
@innerbarkoutdoors
4 жыл бұрын
*thumbs up* Thanks for grabbing the knife and supporting the channel.
@Smedley60
10 жыл бұрын
Cool. A video on batoning with some new (at least to me) ideas. Looking forward to more.
@innerbarkoutdoors
10 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Randy. Certainly more to come for 2014
@nateschroeder8143
10 жыл бұрын
Really nice video man. Great editing and audio. Ill definitely be checking out your other videos.
@innerbarkoutdoors
5 жыл бұрын
*thumbs up*
@68MIKEILIKE1
7 жыл бұрын
Like all of your videos, another great one. Cheers.
@innerbarkoutdoors
5 жыл бұрын
*thumbs up*
@ellin67
4 жыл бұрын
Very helpful video, thank you
@innerbarkoutdoors
4 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed!
@SurvivalOnPurpose
10 жыл бұрын
Great lesson Andy. I really never thought of making a wedge. It's the little things we learn from each other that make all the difference. Great knife design too. By the way, give Chris at PreparedMind101 pat on the back for recommending you in his review of your knife. But give yourself one for creating such great content. It's the reason I subscribed.
@innerbarkoutdoors
10 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@tortugaveloce
9 жыл бұрын
Great video! I feel ready to go baton some wood!
@innerbarkoutdoors
5 жыл бұрын
*thumbs up*
@Broddi169
2 жыл бұрын
Daniel Boone. Frontiersman. Lived most of his 86 year life in the wilderness. Under harsh conditions. Fighting Indians and the British. Living off the land. Surviving in the woods for months at a time. NEVER BATONED FIREWOOD
@innerbarkoutdoors
2 жыл бұрын
Probably carried an axe full time 🤷🏻♂️
@JuliaSteel
10 жыл бұрын
SUBBED!
@tomritter493
10 жыл бұрын
not that I advocate beating the hell out of your knives but you need to get the blade up a little on the wood wedges like you were is the way to go great job
@innerbarkoutdoors
5 жыл бұрын
*thumbs up*
@SeaBeagal
10 жыл бұрын
Magnificent video man! I want one!!!
@innerbarkoutdoors
5 жыл бұрын
*thumbs up*
@PhxInvidious
10 жыл бұрын
Great Vid, I just watched a few of your videos and subscribed, I want to do all this northwestern style long camping and adventure bike tours, I always imaged it hard to prepare wood for a fire with out a axe that would be difficult to carry on a motorcycle. I Cannot wait to get out in the forest and test this, I need to go pick up a good blade also.
@innerbarkoutdoors
5 жыл бұрын
*thumbs up*
@AlkatraaS
10 жыл бұрын
Good video, really like your dog and the place, not to mention the knife ^^ You got another subscriber!
@innerbarkoutdoors
10 жыл бұрын
Thanks for stopping by! Zip says hi too
@kevinkeesee7267
9 жыл бұрын
good stuff.
@innerbarkoutdoors
5 жыл бұрын
*thumbs up*
@livingsurvival
10 жыл бұрын
Sub'd to your channel just because of the title of this video ;)- GET AN AXE BRO!
@innerbarkoutdoors
5 жыл бұрын
*thumbs up*
@AlexNeedsAUsername
9 жыл бұрын
Hey, great video. I was just wondering if there is a reason that you dont use the wedge on every log after you start it off with the knife?
@innerbarkoutdoors
9 жыл бұрын
+AlexNeedsAUsername The knife is faster for smaller stuff.
@silvermediastudio
7 жыл бұрын
Something that is key when splitting logs is to never tackle a log bigger than the knife can handle... at least not going right down the middle. I've found that it is equally efficient and perhaps even more so to just take off a 1/3rd at a time for anything bigger than about 4 inches. Basically splitting off a plank, then take a triangle across one of the corners that are left, take the other corner, and finally split the remaining log in half. Now you have accomplished the same thing as quartering, but you have five pieces with more inner wood exposed, for what is usually a lot fewer swings, even though you had to do one extra batoning process. It's all about path of least resistance. The intuitive "cut it in half, cut the halves in half" approach can be wasteful, especially with a smaller blade or if the blade tends to get caught in a log.
@innerbarkoutdoors
5 жыл бұрын
*thumbs up*
@Pat98300
10 жыл бұрын
Andy great video ... How about a video on sharpening your knife that is something I have trouble with after I lose that factory edge I can never get my knife that sharp again... Any easy way to sharpen like a pro please pass it on anyone
@innerbarkoutdoors
10 жыл бұрын
I have that in the hopper as far as my how to videos go, but it makes sense to get that out sooner rather than later. Thanks!
@sanfranciscobay
9 жыл бұрын
InnerBark Outdoors Did you make your video on field sharpening a large knife?
@Pat98300
9 жыл бұрын
Yes he did
@joshuawoods9828
7 жыл бұрын
is it possible to baton with a serated knife?
@innerbarkoutdoors
7 жыл бұрын
Yes, but the serrated edge could chip on the high spots. If it's all you have, use the wedge for sure to help keep the edge from chipping.
@beauxtx1959
10 жыл бұрын
Best video I've ever seen on batoning wood. Well done. Tweeted a link to this video on my Bushcraft & Survival Twitter page @bcrafttips
@innerbarkoutdoors
10 жыл бұрын
Thanks :)
@legendsocool644
5 жыл бұрын
what knife did you use
@innerbarkoutdoors
5 жыл бұрын
The knife I designed with TOPS the TFK
@onixpyro3883
8 жыл бұрын
what axe is that in the backround?
@billystink4611
4 жыл бұрын
Onix Pyro yep
@innerbarkoutdoors
3 жыл бұрын
Billy got it :)
@allenying
9 ай бұрын
anyone ever try this with purchased kiln dried firewood? it didn't really work for me. wild found wood was no problem, but kiln dried wood was too hard
@innerbarkoutdoors
5 ай бұрын
Interesting… I haven’t really done a lot of purchased kindling before. So I don’t have much experience.
@StevanOutdoor
6 жыл бұрын
Batoning as a technique is way older than the internet. The modern day bushcraft people or survival people did not invent batoning. For the rest I fully agree with your video. Make wedges before you start batoning if you have only this one knife. I like to bring a beater knife for this kind of work next to my carving and food prep knife even though I only baton small wood with a knife and switch to making wedges if the wood gets bigger.
@innerbarkoutdoors
5 жыл бұрын
*thumbs up*
@cravensboughner2425
4 жыл бұрын
I heard very good opinions about the Stodoys plans.
@innerbarkoutdoors
4 жыл бұрын
*thumbs up*
@cravensboughner2425
4 жыл бұрын
@@innerbarkoutdoors 👍👍👍
@nightmarecop80
8 жыл бұрын
pz can you tell me music name from background! tx
@innerbarkoutdoors
5 жыл бұрын
Its royalty free music... don't remember lol
@florincochintu8691
3 жыл бұрын
Or carry a hatchet....simples!
@innerbarkoutdoors
2 жыл бұрын
This is for if you don’t have on or if you want to go In light
@edferd100
6 жыл бұрын
This would be a last resort technique for sure, I don't care how robust the blade is.
@innerbarkoutdoors
5 жыл бұрын
Not the first option - use if needed
@rileywheaton49
Жыл бұрын
Bros ready for the apocalypse
@innerbarkoutdoors
5 ай бұрын
He’ll yeah
@YuriyKhovansky
4 жыл бұрын
Woodglut has a lot of plans to choose from.
@innerbarkoutdoors
4 жыл бұрын
*thumbs up*
@YuriyKhovansky
3 жыл бұрын
@@innerbarkoutdoors 👍👍
@Marksman2oo7
8 жыл бұрын
8:29 I really want to know what yall were looking at. lol
@tedlarson2078
8 жыл бұрын
Yeah I seen that lol
@innerbarkoutdoors
5 жыл бұрын
*thumbs up*
@ryanglass3360
3 жыл бұрын
I saw the parentheses and immediately thought of jacksepticeye
@innerbarkoutdoors
2 жыл бұрын
*thumbs up*
@Konstantinos340
6 жыл бұрын
it still an issue, modern steels are called crucible steels and although they are amazing compared to old stuff from 200 years ago you still shouldnt baton. they will still break
@innerbarkoutdoors
5 жыл бұрын
It's a technique that done CORRECTLY when needed is fine.
@romaineathey3663
6 жыл бұрын
I check a lot of woodworking handbooks. These one from woodprix are the best.
@innerbarkoutdoors
5 жыл бұрын
*thumbs up*
@davidpollock280564
10 жыл бұрын
Should have called it how not to. Wood should be as dry as possible. It should not be to thick and free from knots. Knots is a sure way to bend or break your knife. Good wood selection for batoning is the way forward Bro
@innerbarkoutdoors
10 жыл бұрын
I agree with you David, but what you described is what I would call ideal conditions, aka back at home. At home I would have seasoned wood, cut short, a splitting block, and a splitting maul with steel wedges. This is batoning with a knife in the field and materials used should be from the field.
@davidpollock280564
10 жыл бұрын
Yes I know where you are coming from Bro but sometimes we get a wee bit lazy and don't look hard enough for those dry standing trees. We have all done it end of a long day tired get the fire on as quick as you can just doesn't always work Bro always better to take your time and you will probably be quicker
@innerbarkoutdoors
10 жыл бұрын
This particular tree was a dry standing tree until a storm blew it across the road. The lower half of it was clear and the upper half had knots in it which I ran into with the SOG knife. If I had two trees to use it would have been sweet, but I think using that knotted piece was a good demo of how the wedge comes into play
@davidpollock280564
10 жыл бұрын
Absolutely Bro loved that comment. I will definitely look forward to viewing more of your videos and I was not trying to be negative well put it this way you have won another subscriber take care my friend
@innerbarkoutdoors
10 жыл бұрын
No worries I got your vibe right away. I appreciate you checking out the videos/channel. Take care- Andy
@FCGOutdoors
7 жыл бұрын
Good video, but I have a few tips. First, apply more downward pressure on the hand controlling the knife, it will keep the blade more perpendicular and you'll have to adjust less. Second, you don't need a full swing of an axe to split wood, arguably you could do it using less room and effort than batoning needs since the axe is a natural wedge and has more weight to help the process.
@innerbarkoutdoors
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment and tips, brother!
@spencersurvivor2198
10 жыл бұрын
What kind of dog is that
@innerbarkoutdoors
10 жыл бұрын
Blue Heeler, aka dingo dog
@spencersurvivor2198
10 жыл бұрын
When i first saw it i thought it was a dingo then i remembered you live in washington
@innerbarkoutdoors
10 жыл бұрын
Spencer Survivor They are half dingo, half something else. Somehow that creates an awesome dog
@innerbarkoutdoors
10 жыл бұрын
Blue Heeler and Australian Cattle dog can be used interchangeably, but I like Blue Heeler because he was born in America and barks with a southern accent. He lost his tail in a freak gasoline fight accident.
@spencersurvivor2198
10 жыл бұрын
InnerBark Outdoors Thats sad.
@yodogy10
10 жыл бұрын
was that ur dog or a boar
@yodogy10
10 жыл бұрын
@ 3:40
@innerbarkoutdoors
10 жыл бұрын
Adam Liszewski My dog Zip
@sanfranciscobay
9 жыл бұрын
I don't like the background music. I wish you would ixnay amscray it. It makes it distracting to listen to you. We are not at a disco. We are listening to an educational video.
@innerbarkoutdoors
5 жыл бұрын
Noted
@andreejmarbbf52
6 жыл бұрын
On the Stodoys site you can find many plans for this type of thing.
@innerbarkoutdoors
5 жыл бұрын
*thumbs up*
@lyndonlucier791
8 жыл бұрын
Why would you even need to baton of you don't have an axe ? How would you cut down a tree and get logs in the first place ? If there's downed logs around you'd already have ample branches and twigs laying around !! I just never understood the concept !! No need for it
@innerbarkoutdoors
8 жыл бұрын
You can chop with larger blades, or baton through logs to cut them down.
@maxpower9672
8 жыл бұрын
Lyndon Lucier , batoning will get you to the drier wood inside larger logs when all the smaller/suitable-sized wood is too damp all the way through.
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