There will never be a 14th faulty mechanic in melee
@KalebSDay
Жыл бұрын
Or a 13th, which is what he told me at Tipped Off lol.
@p71012
Жыл бұрын
*Guy spitting out cereal*
@Dracula_sb
Жыл бұрын
I've never seen a 13 and I never fucking will
@johnhawked6493
Жыл бұрын
Appreciate all the effort you put in as usual, I hope 1.03 can become standardized one day.
@TheButterRoyaleYT
Жыл бұрын
hax:Hey guys, we did a whole bunch of stuff to make the game better, more accessable for new players, and easier to pick up as well! Hell, we eve- (meanwhile) everyone:We need to make this game accssable! Anything to keep the communty aliv---- oh, what's this? hax(cont)-even patched some bugs! That's 14 total fixes, and we have a z jump toggle so you don't hve to pay one of the few modders with a monopoly on the scene! everyone Absolutely not man. This guys crazy it would TOOOOOOOOOOTALY change the game, naw we need to keep the melee integrity! 1 week later: IBDW loses a fox ditto due to some shit that was fixed in the iso. dumb dumb dumb
@silkbombmusic
Жыл бұрын
1.03 is the standard in New Mexico. We got too many boxx users and controller users to ignore the 1.03 team’s hard work.
@trixssbm
Жыл бұрын
Controller users? Everyone uses boxes or controllers lol
@Wavedashnoir
Жыл бұрын
What? 😂
@devro312
Жыл бұрын
they probably mean alternative controllers like xbox360 @@trixssbm
@topherharrison8042
Жыл бұрын
Don't sleep on the keyboarders!!
@AJScraps
Жыл бұрын
He probably means controller like phob or goomwave
@loganreidy7055
Жыл бұрын
Its a shame to see legacy edition gone, it had a lot of really good options for friendlies
@nuts_fattening
Жыл бұрын
cope
@loganreidy7055
Жыл бұрын
@@nuts_fattening I don't need to cope I have it on my computer still
@megamix5403
Жыл бұрын
@@loganreidy7055You should upload it to the internet archive
@megamix5403
Жыл бұрын
@@nuts_fatteningok dead meme
@nuts_fattening
Жыл бұрын
@@megamix5403 ain’t a meme. Just y’all coping hard
@sageosaka
Жыл бұрын
thanks for all your help with the community and everything hax. i haven't been able to be around much lately but i appreciate everything!
@aplsed
Жыл бұрын
Can't wait for the final update
@Afflictamine
Жыл бұрын
1.03+ Extra Fresh Plus Classic
@cebo494
Жыл бұрын
Unfortunate that editable controls are being dropped for good. They seem like such an obvious addition towards the philosophy of controller/boxx parity and make a huge contribution towards making the game more accessible to new players and players coming from other plat-fighters.
@cebo494
Жыл бұрын
@@Melbellee I definitely see the rationale behind not doing perfect wavedashes and tilt stick (even if I think they're good changes), but I personally think tap-jump shoulda made the cut. At least for me, it's the one change that would actually make me consider playing the game more as it's by far the #1 reason I don't play. It has fairly limited competitive advantage (pretty much just easier up-tilts) while having probably the largest accessibility benefit of any possible change.
@OneCSeven
11 ай бұрын
@@Melbellee nah thats bullshit, button mapping is such a basic feature. “step too far” be serious…
@SunsetSpark
Жыл бұрын
i would love to have this much passion about a game
@CapFlipGaming
Жыл бұрын
Or anything in life
@thefranChise1
Жыл бұрын
Holy moly
@Nightcaat
11 ай бұрын
Please consider bringing back Legacy Edition features, even as hidden options. It was really useful and made the game more accessible for casual play
@partlyawesome
Жыл бұрын
It's disappointing that you're discontinuing legacy edition. One of the best parts of 1.03 was the ability to disable tap jump individually. Please reconsider.
@Flay10
Жыл бұрын
Agreed, I've never been able to get into melee because of tap jump being always on. Would be a great feature to have in tournament mode as well
@babblingduck9235
Жыл бұрын
It’s weird the amount of ppl who say this it barely matters
@juhadexcelsior
Жыл бұрын
@@babblingduck9235 that and L cancelling too
@partlyawesome
Жыл бұрын
@@babblingduck9235 it definitely does matter to people who are using this mod in a non-formal competitive setting, people like the option to turn off the mechanic
@babblingduck9235
Жыл бұрын
@@partlyawesome i was just talking about ppl who say it about melee in general, not about 1.03
@Micha-Hil
11 ай бұрын
13 fixed mechanics, 13 viable characters in melee
@mystwerks
Жыл бұрын
Not leaving the watermark in when people are stealth adding this to tournament settups is arguably irresponsible Note, these are tournament settups at ucf tournaments Im talking about. If theres actually a 1.03 major sure, that shouldnt use a watermark. But they dont exist.
@KalebSDay
Жыл бұрын
You'd have to argue stealth UCF is just as unethical, but it seems just to be standard practice to not appear as if the game is modded for streaming purposes.
@Nawakooo0
Жыл бұрын
We can't show mods like UCF or 1.03 on stream because of Nintendo, we always need an option to turn off the watermark for stream setups
@tetros5265
Жыл бұрын
I assume the idea is that it's a beta release and because there are issues, you should know what you're running on. I imagine if you want to run stealth you will continue to use the old version until this gets a stable release
@mystwerks
Жыл бұрын
@@Nawakooo0 Sure but can you name a single major that uses 1.03? Not even the nightclub uses it. Currently almost every major, including recently @ smashcon, some dumbass kid loads up a bunch of gamecubes with 1.03 which isnt chill. Thats the issue, not locals getting smited because they ran the hax mod.
@Nawakooo0
Жыл бұрын
@@mystwerks Oh I meant if we were to use 1.03 in majors
@KhaanMuadDib
Жыл бұрын
You are dedicated to this game more than anyone.
@hannahbriarly4192
Жыл бұрын
I understand the watermark is temporary but is there a true 'stealth' option? Like if someone just goes back a screen from the character select its clearly modded and that's a turn off for TOs
@poopheadtwenty-seven540
Жыл бұрын
Why is that a turn-off for TOs? (New to Melee, genuinely asking)
@ayylmao0702
Жыл бұрын
this is a beta version, some of the fixes aren't functional and it shouldn't be used for tournament matches @poopheadtwenty-seven540 using and especially streaming modded nintendo games has caused issues in the past, Nintendo has straight up c&d tournaments because they were using "hacked" versions of Melee and Brawl (back in the day you couldn't even run ads while streaming Project M on twitch, don't know how it is today)
@maxono1465
Жыл бұрын
@@poopheadtwenty-seven540cuz nintendo hates mods and will sue them
@Chair-Son
Жыл бұрын
a stealth option is a terrible idea because 1.03 makes balance changes, dipshits already switch tournament setups to 1.03 and not being able to tell would be a huge issue
@jiaan100
Жыл бұрын
@@maxono1465we just need some true American TOs. Guns>lawyers
@Chair-Son
Жыл бұрын
I would love to see a version that has a mode selector on boot to switch between three modes, one with only UCF style changes, one that the fixes and the box-parity changes, and one with all the casual features like controls and stages. Maybe something like the old multi-mod launcher. There are so many cool features and QoL tweaks in this hack but theyre locked behind one guy's controversial balance tweaks
@Rael0505
Жыл бұрын
All versions of 1.03 already have these different modes
@cvlcek144
Жыл бұрын
Should bring back turning off stick jump😔
@lucaskontes
Жыл бұрын
Hey Hax, great work! I was wondering if you have a guide (or if its even possible) to update the OG 1.03 GC memory cards with this new update? Just curious. Thanks for everything you do!
@hounvs
Жыл бұрын
I don't know the technical details offhand but I'll try to give you a solid lead if you want to look further. You basically need either a modded Wii or a GC Memory Card to USB adapter. Then you can update the Memory Card data via tools like Dolphin (USB adapter) or GameCube Memory Manager (Wii Homebrew app).
@lucaskontes
Жыл бұрын
@hounvs Got it! Thanks for that info. I still have my OG molded wii, so I'll look into this!
@hounvs
Жыл бұрын
@@lucaskontes Oh sick. Then yea, just Google "transfer gamecube saves wii homebrew" to get a guide for GCMM. Links sometimes get comments auto-removed so I can't add one.
@KalebSDay
Жыл бұрын
I just wish it would be feasible to patch in a fix for getting side-b while standing, when that exact same angle would count as a shine in the air. Silly Melee jank.
@houndsol
Жыл бұрын
this is actually useful
@RTU130
Жыл бұрын
Ye
@gundum1o1
10 ай бұрын
Hey Hax Hope your appeal goes through and is treated with thoroughness & fairness. 😊 OK NOW FOR MY REQUEST LOL 😂 Please bring back the stages toggle in the next update, will not be regressing to a past update either lmao... and for heaven's sake, let's have cpu battles back! 🤪 If it's supposed to work in current updates, it isn't working with me... Thanks You In Advance Hax! 🤜🏻🤛🏻
@godslayerbiotch43
Жыл бұрын
how in the world are you gonna justify removing controller edits
@5k4k1dhtp
Жыл бұрын
The next update will fix the lack of red tint behind Roy's name on the character select screen.
@Wavedashnoir
Жыл бұрын
Can i turn off tap j
@juhadexcelsior
Жыл бұрын
Wait? So we can't turn tap jump off? 🤢🤢🤢🤢 you just fumbled the bag
@partlyawesome
Жыл бұрын
So true
@Rael0505
Жыл бұрын
Turning off tap jump will never, ever be tournament legal
@partlyawesome
Жыл бұрын
@@Rael0505 No one cares whether it'll be "legal" or not.
@jiaan100
Жыл бұрын
@@Rael050595% of melee players will never enter a tournament
@jiaan100
Жыл бұрын
@@Rael0505also I bet it will be, bet it already has been
@AJScraps
Жыл бұрын
Since I don’t really wanna bother with competitive I don’t use 1.03 but I am gonna switch to it anyway just cus it sounds superior.
@Littled0013
Жыл бұрын
What if someone FINISHED melee?
@kevinfought
Жыл бұрын
Melee’s already perfect
@joeykeilholz925
Жыл бұрын
@@kevinfought game and watch never got his shield, it's still the default. Can't L cancel some of his moves too.
@kevinfought
Жыл бұрын
@@joeykeilholz925 yea that's in the game though. The perfect melee is vanilla melee since thats how god intended
@zigafide
Жыл бұрын
patiently waiting for the 14th faulty mechanic to drop
@E-Brightvoid
Жыл бұрын
Luigi is gonna be so so so good
@joshuasmith1157
Жыл бұрын
0:45 let's be real, even though ice climbers were just shown, we were all just slightly scared hax just snuck in a shine buff
@joshuasmith1157
Жыл бұрын
please buff falco down b though. little bigger. just a liiiittle bigger.
@R4NK4Z
Жыл бұрын
ok thats actually huge good thing that its fixed now
@7dogguy
Жыл бұрын
There's no legacy controls me I'm not allowed to play the game the way I learned the last 10 years?
@dinglemcdangledongle
Жыл бұрын
i love all the changes, but does this mean there is no updated version with configurable controls? ive seen many people complain about melees tap jump and how it drives people away from the game.
@twotamatos
Жыл бұрын
Yah I don’t think there is any way I wish so badly u could turn off tap jump it makes up tilting really hard there’s a few things like no input buffering really drives me off too, cuz u will hit attacks n sometimes it just feels so bad when playing off console where there is input delay as well it just makes it a mess to play I wish there could be some fixes for these but u just kinda gotta get used to it or go play ult hopefully modders can help this a lil bit
@Zxv975
Жыл бұрын
@@twotamatos I swapped to box for 3 reasons: tap jump, ADT shield and dash back out of crouch. I've hated accidental tap jump for over a decade and I couldn't wait to get rid of that shit. When it was obvious that the community was not going to do anything about making it optional for regular controllers, I gave up and moved to box. I've never been happier with a controller in my life.
@twotamatos
Жыл бұрын
@@Zxv975 cool I wanna get back into melee have some funny tourney upsets with low tiers get back on those grinds of just playing smash into the night I will look into box thanks for the info
@Zxv975
Жыл бұрын
@@twotamatos if you are able to afford one, it's 100% worth it. Getting a box single handedly brought back my love for the game. I used to get super frustrated at all of the 3 issues above and get tilted almost every session I'd play. Since moving to box and getting past the learning stages of it, I absolutely love it and I've never had more fun with melee in the 14 years I've played. Personally I'd probably recommend a lunchbox or a prism, but the latter is very expensive (like $450). Any box you can get your hands on is good though and I literally built mine with a 3d printed case.
@Chair-Son
Жыл бұрын
I dont understand why they would ever want to remove custom controls from this, the only problem with them is that they affect balance and the other changes affect balance anyway. If youre fine with that, just go all the way
@Dyldoughbread
Жыл бұрын
I bought the legacy edition like a month ago and still haven't gotten it
@floofiekun1875
Жыл бұрын
Does it make Kirby good though?
@medea6341
Жыл бұрын
lets gooooo
@verbosed
Жыл бұрын
does 1.03 already have qol improvements like dpad rumble toggle, or the stage select screen showing only the legal stages?
@itsPersonnal
Жыл бұрын
"HUGE"
@AJScraps
Жыл бұрын
I switch between slippi and gc and don’t want the gc timing to get erased by 1.03’s changes, would I develop different muscle memory in 1.03 that affects my regular 1.02 timing? Genuine concern I’ll be unlearning real shield drops, etc
@Arissi
Жыл бұрын
ITS PEAK😊
@danterp26
Жыл бұрын
i need a x grab and a z switch on single jab when when when ,,,, issues,,,,,,,,,,, much luve aziz. i have no worries and also gyy up range on shield drop, on top of it all also, dog 3cordinate bridge. panda :3
@rustyp69
Жыл бұрын
smash scientist
@Timic83tc
Жыл бұрын
Melee is badly coded as Alien Colonial Marines confirmed
@benjoby057
Жыл бұрын
is this the final version of 1.03
@lorenzoricci4551
Жыл бұрын
Hax you have to undo the smash DI fix and the perfect wavedashes in 1.03, a lot of peaple don't support 1.03 because of these fixes. All the other stuff is perfect, immagine playing on unranked, inputing an up throw up air and your character really do that consistently... even tho it will never happen unfurtunatly
@orez_ssb
Жыл бұрын
perfect wavedash is removed as it was a legacy control, SDI fix is needed for GCCs because it sucks at quartercircle compared to B0XX
@connorkillmice
Жыл бұрын
bring back vanilla pokemon stadium
@Wavedashnoir
Жыл бұрын
Down b in general?
@JoseVazquez-qu4ny
Жыл бұрын
You should let us change to japan voice
@XxHistorikxX
Жыл бұрын
Honestly, it would be great for this to be the new standard. Goomwaves and other cheater controllers are way to expensive for anyone but a top player to even consider.
@jimmylongjohns3365
9 күн бұрын
wow Hax v cool can you send me mine that I ordered over a month ago? Thx
@bailujen8052
11 ай бұрын
Can you press jump and attack at the same time to short hop attack like in Ultimate?
@herbmaaster
Жыл бұрын
please sign up for mana monthly
@SRM13
Жыл бұрын
He’s not banned
@TheIronyoshi
Жыл бұрын
@@SRM13he’s still banned from certain majors and regionals I assume
@SRM13
Жыл бұрын
@@TheIronyoshi he isn’t
@ethanharmon1228
Жыл бұрын
algorithm comment :)
@Universal035
Жыл бұрын
💤 😴
@augustdahlkvist3998
Жыл бұрын
I don't see this as something that needs fixing. Players can easily avoid this coord, and if anyone is hitting this accidentally it's a skill issue
@lieutenantpepper2734
Жыл бұрын
Bro you know ultimate has been out for years? Might want to consider buying a switch😅
@Rael0505
Жыл бұрын
Ultimate is trash
@lieutenantpepper2734
Жыл бұрын
@@Rael0505 You didn't even played it yet.🤣
@godslayerbiotch43
Жыл бұрын
@@lieutenantpepper2734every single melee player has played ultimate
@Timic83tc
Жыл бұрын
melee downdate
@sogga_fan
Жыл бұрын
no one is using this LOL
@suntzu6122
26 күн бұрын
YOU FORGOT TO BUFF NESS! Lol
@dillonmore121
Жыл бұрын
@Aziz Al Yami, I’m super serious, if you truly care about the future of Smash, please listen. If you (and the smash community) really want Melee to be at its best FOR THE FUTURE, it is ABSOLUTELY 100% NECESSARY to include BASIC CUSTOM CONTROL functionality like a Tap Jump toggle, option to put tilts on c-stick, and allow full hopping/short hopping to be differentiated by separate input methods of analog vs digital presses (I use y and R for example) as well as adding the option to include ZR/ZL so additional techniques unique to lower tier characters (like Yoshi, who could possibly become the best in the game) can utilize B-reversal wave bouncing on ZL, mapping grab to X for smoother inputs, and be able to instantly expand the player-base up to the size of the entire Smash scene, especially since the lower tier characters characters tend to have stronger combo/punish games once their dash up-tilt is more usable/viable and their unique b-moves are more easily able to be integrated into a play style by the very nature of b-reversal wave bouncing integrating itself as another movement and attack option (like Yoshi becoming able to grab opponents from the air while retreating instead of the infamous awful tongue grab that leaves you open for days while Marth grabs you with the Force). Otherwise, your playing a watered down, unbalanced version of a famously rushed game that has set historic precedent with every other game including Smash Remix to customize controls so players can play every character at their best on the best controller which would include the one thing the iconic GameCube controller lacks: ZL (and a slightly bigger d-pad)
@dillonmore121
Жыл бұрын
Nice job tho!
@dillonmore121
Жыл бұрын
But yeah, if Melee players are truly scared of losing to Ultimate players, keep it the way it is and continue to disrespect yourselves and ourselves as a community by trying to limit others rather than empowering everyone to be better. It was the custom controls of the legacy patch that truly gave me hope for the future of Melee after Ultimate
@ohDJ_
Жыл бұрын
There is no wave bouncing or b reversing in this game, wtf are you talking about. We’ve managed over 2 decades without custom controls… We’ll be here long after Ultimate dies.
@intranube
Ай бұрын
Late reply. I partially agree with you. 1.03 was an incredible change to the base game, whatever downsides it might have had were outshined and outnumbered by the upsides, however, human nature resists change even if it's illogical to do so. Custom controls and tap jump toggle were features that are so important for gameplay that every modern platfighter i have played has these options and yet, people refused. Just like how long it took to ban infinite combos due to lame rationalizations and how people rejected automativ L-CANCELLING, people will refuse change. This is also present in other fighting games, simple command inputs are to this day rejected even if it makes games accesible to any kind of controller. Melee will likely stay as it is, for better or worse, it's probably a smarter decision to support other promising platfighters instead of waiting for obsesive fans to change their ways. I don't care about Aziz's drama with the smash community but it's really sad to see a guy put so much effort in a passion project that will benefit most of the community only to be shut down by ignorance and bias, kind of when oil companies remove green technologies from the market.
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