My Sur Ron channel: kzitem.info/news/bejne/s5CssouPrXVhdKA
@dexgray4581
2 жыл бұрын
MISLEADING TITLE: this is completely dependent upon where you live. Here in California if you want to ride a SurRon completely legally, get the electronic power pedal kit from kaniwaba, keep it under 29mph, and wear any DOT approved helmet. Now you are officially a Class 3 e-bike! You now have the law on your side and can ride freely without worry, HOWEVER pay close attention to signs on trails, paths, and parks because sometimes rules can be specific to that area you’re passing through. Be VERY courteous to pedestrians slowing down to their speed, be respectful, know your rights, and be willing to leave if approached by a ranger or officer governing the area under different rules for that trail, etc. hope this info helps!
@CarlosSanchezMusic4Life
Жыл бұрын
also, with the Delfast, isn't speed mode 1 set to Class 2, 750 Watts, 20 MPH? that makes it legal all over the USA, if you keep it in that speed mode.
@FunctionFIVE
Жыл бұрын
Disclaimer: I don't live in California right now. I have never heard of the helmet law. As for classes, the surron qualifies for a class3 out of the factory. The legality of operating it above that limit is however you wanna take it. All I can say to avoid getting in trouble on a surron or any technically class4 ebike ride in the bike lane, or get it registered as a scooter (get a license plate) there is a chart online that shows every state and what laws they use so obviously, research your local laws cause not every state even has the class 1234 system.
@bindingcurve
Жыл бұрын
Power level makes the Surron illegal as a bike most everywhere.
@shuuu9729
Жыл бұрын
@@CarlosSanchezMusic4Life yes i own a onyx and the eco mode sets the bike to 750 w 20 mph state law (nj) here its a grey area really
@999torres
Жыл бұрын
@@bindingcurveno it’s not illegal at all in Tennessee in fact it’s classified as a 50cc scooter
@bankrollace8737
2 жыл бұрын
The bikes with pedals are technically legal.
@bindingcurve
Жыл бұрын
Under 750 watts + speed restrictions
@mikec4308
Ай бұрын
not if they go over 28 or past 20 with throttle
@schrodingersmechanic7622
Жыл бұрын
$7k for a Sur Ron is a deal breaker. That's full on street legal motorcycle money. Much above $4k and you're really challenging the practical benefit of an e-bike IMO.
@joshuaespinoza8325
2 жыл бұрын
PSA, Delfast is Ukrainian company. You buy delfast, you support Ukraine. This bike is certified effective against russian forces, used by Ukrainian Defense Forces.
@usernameisusername
Жыл бұрын
Who cares about Ukraine?
@THEBLACKMANISGOD82
7 ай бұрын
@@usernameisusernameexactly... USA Should stop spending money helping Ukraine when there are AMERICANS starving in America
@mixflip
2 жыл бұрын
Technically all cars and trucks are illegal because they can drive faster than the federal state and local speed limits if we use the same logic used on ebikes. I hate that ebikes are restricted for us. They should let us restrict ourselves and if we break the law then cops can write a citation....just like cars.
@TailHappyTV
2 жыл бұрын
I like your idea and totally agree! Another observation I’ve made is the extra mass of some eBikes could be a hazard to other pedestrians, especially I’ve noticed in my area people who rent eBikes with zero/very little experience and recklessly speed in very dense areas, they’re the ones ruining it all
@mixflip
2 жыл бұрын
@@TailHappyTV good point. That being said i think all ebikes should have 20mph limit but also all should have a code to unlock max speed by the user/owner. If someone gets hurt at least it shows they willfully unlocked the 20mph safety feature.
@bindingcurve
Жыл бұрын
@@mixflip Fat lot of good that is going to do the person who is hurt or killed.
@damnbrosky
Жыл бұрын
if you living in Europe, Netherlands for example, than Onyx and Surron are no go at least you go offroad or register them as motorbikes with plates and helmets, insurances etc.. They looks to much like motorbikes and every cop will stop you on bike lanes , we have here 250w and 25km/h restriction and is pointless to have serious strong bike for that. Another story is with Super73, it looks like many more legal bikes riding on bike lanes and police already not interested with checking , also they are been sell set to EU legal norm so they a safe here to use out from shop. What nobody around knows Super73 rx has 2000w motor and you can drive it with 50km/h double is legall with just tapping in app and in 1 second make it legal again turning off and on. So for some people somewhere in this planet Super73 kills competition.
@juronjuray
2 жыл бұрын
The Surron is number one on my list. Are you still into cars too?
@tl2913
2 жыл бұрын
Great review of the bikes. See if you can get your hands on a Sondors Metacycle to test next month. Thanks
@TailHappyTV
2 жыл бұрын
Would love to, that bike looks sick
@khronin
2 жыл бұрын
I got a dual drive ebike that I modified for less then 2500 dollars and have 40 mph speed and 100 mile range--plus it looks like a bike and police do not even look twice.I have dual motors and dual batteries.Overpriced--underpowered and it attracts attention cause it looks like a motorcycle.When my hub motors wear out I plan on putting 2 1500 watt hub motors and should have a 50 plus mph bike for about 800 dollars.
@davidhaywood9247
2 жыл бұрын
Good for you man, not everyone knows how to put together their own bike or wants to bother dealing with that. Have fun
@khronin
2 жыл бұрын
@@davidhaywood9247 I bought a CSC 750 XP and added a front hub motor to it and a battery--also when you get these bikes they are only about 75% built anyway and you have to put together the rest of them--you did not even bother to click and see what i did--go ahead and shell out 4 to 5k for one of these when you could spend half that and put together something better with a couple of allen wrenches.
@khronin
2 жыл бұрын
BTW I did not expect to be putting mine together until it came and luckily on you tube you can go and find tutorials on how to do it easily--how about own any ebike first then comment becaue none of them come to your house put together completely--also get some content or never post a comment again.
@greenbmxer94
Жыл бұрын
Seems like a poor choice to have people start off right next to water with no fence…on an electric bike
@ForbinColossus
2 жыл бұрын
I love the look and style of the mini-bike or "cafe racer" style. But big problem is the seats have no height adjustment. So you're gonna ride with your legs folded up unless youre really short.
@burn1gotbeats
Жыл бұрын
Good video
@ebperformance8436
2 жыл бұрын
My stealth bomber clone = 102 pounds….I did gain 3 pounds from changing to heavy duty tires, and a rear mud flap. The first bike has been tuned down…It protects the vendor! My bike has insane acceleration, and reaches 60MPH…it’s only a 3000w kit with a 72v 80A BMP battery, and a 72v 80A speed controller…I reduced the weight of the 50 pound frame down by 10 pounds…forks and handlebars are feather weight, and it had a much lighter 3000w motor.
@alexcerer9800
Жыл бұрын
Ummm goijg faster than 20 isnt illegal. Why dont you actually research the laws before posting a misleading title. This was bad from the start
@hiimsloppy
2 жыл бұрын
none of these are illegal? why the misleading title?
@artoodeetu4421
2 жыл бұрын
FYI - The Onyx RCR by default takes 5 seconds to give you the full power of the motor. You can get an app on your phone that can connect to the motor controller and modify the stock settings and drastically change the acceleration and power output. The setting for time to full power can go down to 1 second! It is already fairly quick with stock settings, but if you modify to the max you might send it flying out from under you, so be careful lol
@TailHappyTV
2 жыл бұрын
Dang, I want to try that setup
@greg6162
2 жыл бұрын
@@TailHappyTV I think stock it’s a little faster than the Suron in top speed at 60/mph but I see them being extremely close once you take off the limits for both of them. I’m thinking of getting the Onyx RCR to commute to work (7mi both ways) because it’s pretty close and the roads are pretty much a straight shot 40-45/mph with minimal-medium traffic. I’m in Western NY state so pedals are a must. *Question: I’m 6’3 200/lbs and I’m wondering if you think this would be comfortable, also and how tall are you?*
@TailHappyTV
2 жыл бұрын
@@greg6162 I’m 6’5” 195lbs, the stock Sur Ron was a bit small for me, but with the seat extender, peg extension, riser bars, and after market seat it fits great
@jovaniduarte649
2 жыл бұрын
Super quite, bruh.
@charlieredeemed
7 ай бұрын
You do the best reviews, Bro! Stay awesome! Also, do you sell your "review-bikes" by any chance?
@tekolicious8310
2 жыл бұрын
So I have been commuting with my Lectric XP ver. 1 and it has been doing ok, but I feel like I would like to go faster, I am doing 28 top speed. I have seen a moped style bike called the Spark Bandit, have you had a chance to check that one out?
@Twobarpsi
2 жыл бұрын
Great video Matt!! I'm trying to buy an E-bike!
@Panda-ws7cp
2 жыл бұрын
Isn't the surron technically legal out of the box with the green wire? 🤔
@EinarOfBC
2 жыл бұрын
it needs pedals to be legal. You can put a pedal kit on it for about $300
@TailHappyTV
2 жыл бұрын
I believe this is correct, I’d never want to ruin my Sur Ron with the pedals as long as I don’t have to
@EinarOfBC
2 жыл бұрын
@@TailHappyTV what's nice is you can remove the pedals easily and have pegs for offroad riding and have the peddles for the streets if the cops are touchy about it.
@theknifedude1881
2 жыл бұрын
@@EinarOfBC I think the SurRon only needs pedals in some jurisdictions. It’s an electric moped in Idaho and needs no pedals here. It’s legality seems to be based mostly on the riding style and attitude of the rider. My law enforcement interactions have, so far, been limited to “how fast does it go, how much did it cost, where can I get one?
@2dthoughts
2 жыл бұрын
How tall are you for scale? You make the Onyx look tiny Thanks
@TailHappyTV
2 жыл бұрын
6’5” 195 lbs, I actually felt comfortable on the onyx. I’ve modded my Sur Ron to fit me better than stock, but it was fine out of the box
@BigORider
Жыл бұрын
@@TailHappyTV I’m 6’5 250. Do you think that would make a difference on which selection for same height but heavier guy?
@johnhoggan9568
2 жыл бұрын
You all know that with any one of these bikes I should say batteries you can hook them up in parallel doubling your range as long as it's 48 to 48 or 72 to 72 or even 36 36 you get Big Time range and speed and if even if it's a 1000 watt motor 2000 watt motor 3000 watt motor you can up the power in other words you can overvolt that motor it will not hurt it same with the people that have a 36 volt 500 watt you can put a 48 volt battery to that it won't f****** the up the Hub trust me I've tried all kinds of fun combos
@dnrsvp
Жыл бұрын
The DelFast has other seat options, including a Moto Saddle, which is more like a motorcycle seat.
@theknifedude1881
2 жыл бұрын
Frustrated with the wait time for the Onyx (Indiegogo) I ordered a SurRon. They both arrived on the same day. I alternated between them @ first but after a couple of weeks I tended to pick the SurRon. The suspension is much better for my weight and the SurRon just looks like a finished product and the Onyx looks like an after work garage project. A really good one but not up to the SurRon’s finish. Also I don’t care for the alarm sounding when you start it. The battery cover didn’t fit correctly, I just left it off! I sold it within 6 months. In retrospect, I wish I had kept it since the price has increased so much. SurRons Rock!
@THEBLACKMANISGOD82
7 ай бұрын
Talaria or ERide Pro are both better value than Surron
@Josh-em6ml
Жыл бұрын
They aint illegal bro lmao stop hopping on the hate band wagon
@AC-kv9qs
2 жыл бұрын
Awesome video! You should also try the Zooz 1100 or 750, I feel like it competes with the supers but are lowkey🔥
@TailHappyTV
2 жыл бұрын
I’ll look into it!
@davidwarner6755
Жыл бұрын
I love this dude...so genuine and honest.
@TailHappyTV
Жыл бұрын
Thanks dude 🤙
@BigBoss877
2 жыл бұрын
Why the title man….I literally jumped on an E bike after years of casually riding my mtn bike. It’s unreal fun and have a place in daily commutes. Especially with the price of gasoline these days. I see you have a sur-Ron page. But to tbh. Cyclist I find to be elitists and haters amongst these bikes. Motorcyclist are open and find these bikes awesome
@johnw65
2 жыл бұрын
Oklahoma 'Legal' is 1000W - 20mph, with "no capability to exceed 20mph"... Registration as Electric Motorcycle with insurance and license tag, and full motorcycle equipment* is only option. *ie: full time headlight, brakelight, tag light, turn signals, rear view mirrors, helmet under 18, eye protection, etc...
@andreperry7995
2 жыл бұрын
I love my delfast 3.0. The range is pretty good. I got 90 miles on a single charge. Is the same cost I'd someone was upgrading a super73 man.
@TailHappyTV
2 жыл бұрын
Wow 90 miles is impressive, how fast were you riding? I’m assuming you were pedaling.
@andreperry7995
2 жыл бұрын
@@TailHappyTV hell naw I did not pedal once. I just kept the speed at 35 mph.
@johnwolford2715
2 жыл бұрын
@@andreperry7995 damn why you got to make my life difficult 😂 I thought I was not going to pick the delfast because of the range you don't want to drive it constantly for long distances anyways right that's bad for it going max speed for 40 miles
@NHawthorne
Жыл бұрын
Out of curiosity, would you say the 3.0 is comfortable for someone whos 195cm/6’4? Looking to replace an Atroz2 and maybe my daily ninja 650 with one
@andreperry7995
Жыл бұрын
@@NHawthorne This ebike ride comfortable for you. The delfast 3.0 weights 160 pounds. I know some people don't like heavy ebikes. This ebike replace my car and I like the ebike.
@scottdilemma655
8 ай бұрын
Great Stuff , As a tall person myself all these bikes are to small for us. I know your 6'5" I am 6'4" we look like we are heading to the circus on small bikes...................All things said I feel youve got me sold on The WIRED FREEDOM . Thank you in advance for any thoughts or input ....................
@stefmontey
2 жыл бұрын
Onyx looks really pretty? Lol
@theheatmagazine
2 жыл бұрын
nice I have to try them out
@johnhoggan9568
2 жыл бұрын
That was a BS show all those bikes were legal except for his because it didn't have petals I have a 5000 W Enduro with pedals it's legal it goes about as fast as that Dell fast with a more comfortable seat and a 45 amp hour battery I get about the same mileage he does cuz it doesn't really do 200 miles that is just thought I'd mention that, because do it yourself seems to be a little cheaper and the least you know how the bike is put together
@bindingcurve
Жыл бұрын
In most locations 5000 W is not even close to legal.
@EdLrandom
Жыл бұрын
great laws we got
@BikerForJustice
2 жыл бұрын
Knock this crap off My car is legal - but not if I drive 110 !
@TailHappyTV
2 жыл бұрын
I think that’s the way eBikes should be regulated as well
@colekiddo
Жыл бұрын
I usually try and find bike reviewers who are taller, with me being 6'3" , I'm able to get a better idea how I would look on these 73 style bikes. If you can make it work, gives me hope for myself 😆
@TailHappyTV
Жыл бұрын
😆 you’ll be fine! I’d never worry about what somebody else thinks what I look like while riding anything, it’s all about having fun for yourself.
@johnw65
2 жыл бұрын
I wish you had tested the ONYX CTY2: 1000W,60mi range, 45mph for $3699. Also some < $2K like: Juiced Scorpion X $1999; Ariel Rider $1799; ReAspire 750W48V $1499; FREESKY folder 750W48V 70mi range $1299; G-FORCE ZM 48V80mile $1999 are a few
@TailHappyTV
2 жыл бұрын
I actually did a review of the onyx bikes, I think I saw you left a comment on my other channel. Thanks for your input I’ll see if I can find these bikes around here.
@johnw65
2 жыл бұрын
@@TailHappyTV Thx a bunch! Im after an Ebike to save space in a tiny camper. Prob is, Okla is 1000W and 20mph MAX! Maybe a good 26" ebike won't attract as much attention as these 50mph ecycles?
@General.Audience
Жыл бұрын
I don't know. I still want to get a super 73 adventure
@CoronaTheVirus
2 жыл бұрын
Very informative thank you
@thisguyrighthere4634
2 жыл бұрын
nice but we need more spin bikes reviews
@MoneyBuysDrug
10 ай бұрын
Officer its only 750 watts I promise
@chrisMc1972
2 жыл бұрын
Super 73Rx suspension is good but you have to change the rear spring to 400 pound the one it comes with is a 550 pound
@chefdak
2 жыл бұрын
Can a 16 year old have the delfast or sur ron?
@ianmangham4570
Жыл бұрын
Easy on the ILLEGAL
@chillywilly3285
Жыл бұрын
How tall are you? Is the sur on a good fot for anybody above 6 feet
@TailHappyTV
Жыл бұрын
I’m 6’5”, it’s good if you get a seat riser and drop the pegs, check out my Juiced Joyrides channel dedicated to Sur Ron
@savagelord2220
2 жыл бұрын
I got mines for 2800
@petermclaughlin3292
Жыл бұрын
Garbage I'm buying parts and building my own cheaper scam.
@semovere602
8 ай бұрын
Delfast❤
@pizzabones7217
Жыл бұрын
Why do a full comparison on all the other bikes, but not the surron, the surron is by far the best balance of fun and performance, price is steep but I argue you get what you pay for
@TailHappyTV
Жыл бұрын
I have a whole separate channel for that bike youtube.com/@JuicedJoyrides
@dankelly4747
Жыл бұрын
It has a good on board TOILET!!!
@TailHappyTV
Жыл бұрын
😂
@Brycediaz431
2 жыл бұрын
Okay maybe your cant ride on the street but who ever said you can’t ride on the sidewalk
@WestShoreMan
Жыл бұрын
Im more after range and the Delfast seems to be the pick but ouch $$$
@TailHappyTV
Жыл бұрын
Range is important
@mattyscoot7734
2 жыл бұрын
think you forgot to mention theres over $3000 of upgrades in the surron lol
@TailHappyTV
2 жыл бұрын
currently $1,741 in upgrades, detailed here :) kzitem.info/news/bejne/s5CssouPrXVhdKA
@scubatrucker6806
2 жыл бұрын
Delfast I think he didnt hear what question you asked . He probably thought you asked. what is the weigh limit? #265
@tangosierra9649
Жыл бұрын
Why is any ebike illegal?
@TailHappyTV
Жыл бұрын
That’s a really great question, I mean you can buy a brand new Lamborghini and drive it on the road even though it has enough horsepower to easily break the speed limit laws. Electric bicycles are treated differently. For some reason, you can only have so much power and they can only be able to achieve top speed of 28 legally. I don’t see why it should be illegal to have a Ebike that has a certain amount of power, perhaps it should just be illegal to go certain speeds in certain areas
@bindingcurve
Жыл бұрын
@@TailHappyTV We can legally drive Lambos without a license or registration and insurance? When did that law change?
@easidaz
2 жыл бұрын
I love my Surron. I wish the range was more....
@TailHappyTV
2 жыл бұрын
What kind of range do you get?
@joeking433
Жыл бұрын
That Super73 looks WAY overpriced!
@TailHappyTV
Жыл бұрын
It is 😂
@Later_Nerd
Жыл бұрын
Pedal assist ebikes are so lame lmao.
@TailHappyTV
Жыл бұрын
i agree, throttle only is best ;)
@muffpoundah
2 жыл бұрын
So this is a biased review.... since u already own a Sur Ron.
@tankdome37
2 жыл бұрын
I m trying to figure out what u saying! Sur-Ron take off is not better than the Onyx!
@TailHappyTV
2 жыл бұрын
I guess my Sur Ron is modified, but it feels quicker from 0-20. I’ll try and catch an onyx on the street and do a side by side acceleration. Side note, I was riding the Core 5 with my buddy on his super73 today and the Core 5 was definitely faster.
@BrianBoykin
2 жыл бұрын
Sur Ron is the best in the world
@rontron418
2 жыл бұрын
@@BrianBoykin where u buy your sur ron?
@shilohjohnson6920
Жыл бұрын
Delfast worst ebike manufacturer on the market don't buy one
@momoney6272
2 жыл бұрын
The delfast is way overpriced , the super73 is garbage it has no speed and no power and the onyx is just like a moving box with horrible body … for 3700$$ u can get a stealth bomber 15000w 72v 49ah with sabvoton controller 200A a fucking beast of a bike … I got 2 of them
@TailHappyTV
2 жыл бұрын
This pretty much sums it up haha, I need to learn more about these Stealth bombers
@momoney6272
2 жыл бұрын
@@TailHappyTV alibaba
@rontron418
2 жыл бұрын
where did u buy bomber?
@momoney6272
2 жыл бұрын
@@rontron418 alibaba
@NoName-iz6bs
Жыл бұрын
Everyone with an ebike knows a sur Ron/Onyx is NOT an ebike, even if it has pedals on it. And once ebike laws change, these will be the first ones affected 💯.
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