Can? Yes, of course it can. Base game is unbelivably good, graphics are top of the line, mechanics are good etc. What we're missing is content, so of course it can have a comeback. But will it? Now that's tricky, we'll see. I'll give it another chance, the LAST CHANCE, thanks to you, but I'm skeptical at best. Edit: I just remembered Blizzard's idea of content and endgame si recycling 12 years old content from Diablo 3: Greater Rifts. So for me that's a big no. Fuck Greater Rifts and mindlessly grinding against a timer like a braindead drone!
@T1tusCr0w
4 ай бұрын
Yes it can. Season 4 is basically 1.0 for Diablo 4 I’m now hoping to play it at least till PoE2 comes out then I’ll alternate.
@Moritz.Langen
4 ай бұрын
No because the devs do not know how to make a good ARPG.
@zarthemad8386
4 ай бұрын
It will get a 1-2 week bump of 25-30% (of the current player count) then it will die out again
@appleonsauce2035
4 ай бұрын
It will only "make a comeback" for people that like d3 or have never played a better ARGP. With every update it gets close and closer to being Diablo 3.5.
@Mish0Picka
4 ай бұрын
Big difference between "will log on and try" and a "comeback"
@neoginseng436
4 ай бұрын
this was said in the video
@dennisjohansson6921
4 ай бұрын
It's also not the same as still play, you might not still play but maybe you did give it a try that season. Also, with a pole of 10k instead of 45k is not locking good. If there is 35k less people I intressted in D4 content, I'd say less people are intressted to play the game again. I'm till hoping for the game, and been playing more then 100h every season, some alot more. And I for one am enjoying D4 more then POE And LE. I don't know why, as I know and feel that on a tecnikal point it's not as good. LE has some really good systems, but I do not enjoy the game at all. Might be the class I was playing, but still.
@ZephrymWOW
4 ай бұрын
@@dennisjohansson6921 10k pole from a single youtube is a pretty big pole lol
@carlodarminio227
4 ай бұрын
You can't comeback if you dont "log in and try"
@hermanperez3220
4 ай бұрын
I mean, if the season is good people that log on and try it will keep playing.. hence, a comeback..
@MS-kt7dj
4 ай бұрын
I don't think diablo will ever be what it needs to be while rod Ferguson is in charge
@lairizzle
4 ай бұрын
Turd Ferguson
@manuelhernandez2017
4 ай бұрын
He needs to.go, but that won't happen
@CheekClapper69420
4 ай бұрын
Until he is sacked their will be spinning their wheels in place, going nowhere while desperately watching the competition go into the horizon
@KiteVtuberDefender
4 ай бұрын
What do you think rod changes about the game seriously? He doesnt make any choices.
@zaiyas1408
4 ай бұрын
Is there any evidence that it’s all his fault? I’m not disagreeing with you if it is his fault but the only evidence seems to be he’s a higher up. I personally think a multitude of factors played into D4 not being well received not just “huRr dUrR itS RoD fErGusOnS fAuLt”
@BillerKee
4 ай бұрын
Take your vacation brutha. Clear your mind, relax, and enjoy that breeze on the beach, we'll see you when you get back.
@NiklasLord
4 ай бұрын
He will never be back :-(
@darrelladams4886
4 ай бұрын
Something that really hurts D4 is that it took this long to get to what’s coming. Many of these changes have been asked for by the community for a long time. Even just fixing the aspect/codex relationship early on would have fixed a lot of inventory and quality of life issues that frustrated a lot of us for over 3 seasons. Many of the little changes season 2 brought that attempted to help QoL easily coulda been brought in sooner as well. I think a lot of people who stuck around for any length of time burned out and went to other games and probably found more rewarding experiences . Theres been so many games coming out in a short span and you have to create an addicting rewarding experience to keep people going. But it seemed like blizzard was more focussed on getting something out by a certain date, making a ton of money for shareholders and themselves, and selling battlepasses and overpriced costumes in the store. And Many of the campfire chats insulted our intelligence and showed an unwillingness to get things done until things got bad enough that they felt they had no choice. I bet the new season will feel great, I just needed it to feel this great months ago. I may have got my moneys worth from the game but I never got the game I wanted it to be
@pokermitten9795
4 ай бұрын
Diablo 2 and Diablo 3 had major flaws before they received expansions that greatly improved the game. D2 classic had performance issues and an incredibly shallow endgame. D3 was buggy and had design issues. Those games are remembered fondly. D4 is, in fact, taking the path of the previous games.
@tartu2583
4 ай бұрын
@@pokermitten9795 But Blizz didn't learn from those 2 games and their issues? Still after a quick buck for the shareholders and leaders.
@deceiver444
4 ай бұрын
We paid 70$ to beta test the game for months
@Sure0Foot
4 ай бұрын
There's a real phenomenon with people, certainly applies to organizations too: inertia, and identifying your worth to your idea(s). If you have An Idea of how you want something to go (example: the Damage On Tuesday item affixes) it can be a tough lift to make yourself come off of your idea/baby and change it completely. I'm not trying to make excuses for Bliz, but I think it may be a legit (partial) explanation of the process, savvy? I think a lot of their woes could have been lessened if they had more robust in-house playtesting--Season 2 felt like "hey, they're actually playing their game & understand it better now!!" I'm Sofa King eager to jump back into S4 myself.
@MMoer
4 ай бұрын
@@tartu2583that's not the point. The point is those games became very popular after a major overhaul.
@craigskrepnek1684
4 ай бұрын
The great philosopher Marshal Mathers 😎👍
@jeffreydhill
4 ай бұрын
MS paint baseball analogy: 10/10 would paint again
@bighammer3464
4 ай бұрын
The bases are loaded but they have 2 strikes with a controversial ball called.
@manuelhernandez2017
4 ай бұрын
That's one hell of a metaphor/analogy!
@Mister_Know_Name
4 ай бұрын
Eh, pretty wrong. No one on base, 2 strikes, bottom of the ninth and they are behind.
@King_Ekolin
4 ай бұрын
I've been 100% full throttle on helldivers 2 but season 4 is definitely bringing me back. I don't know if it'll hold me but i kinda hope it does cuz i miss it
@T3RRY_T3RR0R
4 ай бұрын
Having played the PTR, I really hope people give the game another try. I can't overstate how incredible itemization feels compared to the current form. I can see some expressing fructration about uniques feeling underwhelming compared to tempered legendaries, but I don't see it as a huge problem - they'll probably rebalance everything s5.
@WatchingFromWork6636
4 ай бұрын
Your math didn't math. Your first pole had 45k people, 14,400 said yes, they are playing. Your next pole had 10k (4,400 less than said they were playing D4 still originally) so 5600 said yes, they would try season 4. While the time the polls were open for matters the fact is its clear interest is really poor for D4 overall now.
@korhanaydemir8366
4 ай бұрын
Season 1 burned me out so much that I skipped season 2. Apparently that was the "good" season so when negative feedback of ss03 came back, I skipped that too. I might try out ss04.
@NathanielTBeene
4 ай бұрын
One thing I see people meme hard about is that the new itemization systems are reskins of mechanics in other games. But, like, why is that a problem? If it works and people like it, use it. It’s a core mechanic, they can differentiate themselves through their seasonal mechanics and other things while having a good base system that everyone knows and likes
@jeffreydhill
4 ай бұрын
Exactly. Most of those games were inspired by the earlier Diablo games anyway, so it's only fair they take cues from their modern competitors.
@JustinPardue
4 ай бұрын
Blizzard has taken a bunch from other devs and simply made it better such as Mythic + and Dragonriding. Hopefully they can do same for D4 itemization
@arthon3753
4 ай бұрын
@@JustinPardue You can argue that m+ serves better a different audience, but dragonriding is still not better than the original guild wars mount system.
@ScarlettSpitfyre
4 ай бұрын
The problem is that they do not have a good base game and exactly this idea is what differentiate Old Blizzard from new Blizzard and why some people doesn't understand that there is still a big difference between them at the core: Old Blizzard took mechanics and other things, story ideas and all from other games and made them into better games in any way, shape or form, but New Blizzard instead of creating a good game from the start and transform it into an A+++ class game with ideas and mechanics from all over, they made a not even a mediocre game, with mediocre story and ok-ish mechanics AND after they seen that people dropped the game hard, they started to improve with ideas, mechanics from other games that are better and quite successful at a lower, much lower price or even free! IF they would have made it less pricy, a better game and they would improve on that base, POE2 would really have competition and Last Epoch would have been a blip I. The grand scheme of things... The only reason D4 made money was because of the story that is old and people wanted it to continue and because it was a big price game and all people wanted to see the story after these many years... very old gamers, old gamers and young gamers...
@arthon3753
4 ай бұрын
The issue is the lack of creativity and not adding anything to the genre of their own. Especially when D4 has all the resources one could ask for and yet Blizzard isn't very creative. Ecosystems like this tend to smother innovation and advancement by trying to steal the audience/features of smaller products and leaving them to die. When there's no one to take ideas from and you're incapable of adding something, the genre regresses and loses popularity: you can take the example of how world of warcraft went through a very bad period because there was no one to steal from anymore and they went with their own ideas. Ultimately, games take inspiration from each other but having a cannibalistic approach often leads to bad results.
@ronsijm
4 ай бұрын
The difference though is that in the first poll 32% of 45k votes is 14.4k people. - This weeks poll, 56% of 10k people is just 5k people. So the percentage is higher, but loads of people already dropped off from even caring or following anything D4 related. I bet most people barely know a "big D4 update is coming"
@reinkengen5237
4 ай бұрын
The first poll had 45K votes, the second one has 10K. I think it's very likely that most of the people who voted no on the first poll didn't vote on the second one as nothing has happened that could have sparked their interest in D4 since then. This means that you're comparing results from sampling a bigger group of D4 players with results from sampling a smaller group (likely containing a lot of the people who voted yes on the first one as those are the ones who kept watching your D4 videos), which is just silly.
@faustomadebr
4 ай бұрын
Exactly. It is like if 12% of his last poll said they would try. So it is not a comeback, specially of some of them disliked the changes.
@kydelastra
4 ай бұрын
So your one person summary is based on the argument that less people give less credibility? Can you maybe see where that's going? 😂
@reinkengen5237
4 ай бұрын
@@kydelastra you might want to look into how to choose populations when gathering data. The gist here is that to compare these 2 polls you'd need to know that the respondents of the second poll have the same ratio of people who answered yes/no in the first poll
@kydelastra
4 ай бұрын
@@reinkengen5237 I assumed the laughing face would highlight that my comment was meant to humorous. Lighten up a bit.
@ethokjonesies
4 ай бұрын
absolutely dented comment on an informal survey. please learn statistics. - unless its the same demographic you can't make a direct comparison between 45k to 10k - in most instances a variance of 45k to 10k is actually significantly less an issue if you're just looking at sentiment analysis yeah love it. love the haters. congratulations for not playing D4 anymore. you are the coolest person. POE for the win.
@michaelcovington2306
4 ай бұрын
DM wearing a blue hoodie and explaining his thoughts via paint. The Rax influence is real
@SlavyaninOpk
4 ай бұрын
Maybe it's Frostie influencing him, and this all was satire
@Zenithity
4 ай бұрын
It's definitely purple but yes Raxception
@dmcgreev3415
4 ай бұрын
They should keep all the seasonal quests in the game after the season ends so that old players that come back will have a load of new content.
@metamon2704
4 ай бұрын
I have zero confidence the game will ever actually be good enough to be worth my time over the alternatives - the itemization and quality of life improvements are not enough, I really want a proper endgame.
@kendement071
4 ай бұрын
I get it. It’s impossible for a gamer who already is a fan of another competing game to play the game. I think you can and only do is talk cr*p about it so that it will validate what you feel about the game you are currently playing right now. Its called tribalism
@metamon2704
4 ай бұрын
@@kendement071 where am I talking crap? I was stating the fact!
@UnknownCommenter
4 ай бұрын
I haven't played since a few weeks after release but I'm genuinely optimistic about it, I was impressed by the streams I saw of the PTR. Will definitely hop back in when the patch drops.
@AUDIOCHURCH
4 ай бұрын
Worst metaphorical baseball analogy of all time.
@5280Recreation
4 ай бұрын
baseball needs a nerf
@Sure0Foot
4 ай бұрын
@@5280Recreation nerf baseball?!?!?! I'm in!!
@TheRealProdigy
4 ай бұрын
3:54 that was the worst 😂😂😂😂
@Steph1
4 ай бұрын
I’m slightly annoyed that the game is now effectively in v1.0, and we’re about to be asked if we want to put down another $70 for a small bit of content
@T1tusCr0w
4 ай бұрын
Yep just commented that. Basically a year of all of us beta testing & devs learning how to make an ARPG we actually have a 1.0 Diablo 4 🫤
@SkywalkerOne1977
4 ай бұрын
Sad
@kielmessersmith1956
4 ай бұрын
Yeah let's pay more for the content they likely carved out of the base game.
@Xenotimes
4 ай бұрын
No one forces you to buy.....
@SkywalkerOne1977
4 ай бұрын
@@Xenotimes What a crap argument
@dj4aces
4 ай бұрын
S4 has a whole lot of promise. Itemization, balance changes, new items... hell, some specs might actually be playable in higher tiers, with abilities that are actually useful for the first time since beta (or maybe even earlier). We know nothing about the story yet (and let's be honest, we don't really need to right now), but based on my experience alone, groups of friends are already planning to play again. The simple fact is, I paid $100 for the damn game, so I want to love it and want to play it. So while we haven't seen the full S4 changes yet (PTR feedback and all, etc), let's see how it turns out.
@metamon2704
4 ай бұрын
all those things are great, is there an actual endgame though.
@SmokeyTheHeir
4 ай бұрын
The visible lack of enthusiasm during the town halls of the company itself is a good indication. If they’re not excited, then why should I?
@samuelspiel8855
4 ай бұрын
The itemisation is actually good. The problem is that the skills and synergies are lame as hell. That requires a massive overhaul which won't happen!
@SuhandiWijaya
4 ай бұрын
I quit S1, PTR makes me want to play again at S4.
@newax_productions2069
4 ай бұрын
why? theres some itemization changes but no endgame.
@SuhandiWijaya
4 ай бұрын
@@newax_productions2069 the pit to Tier 200 is enough for me, at least as a HC player I won't get there soon enough.
@Matt-gf4gd
4 ай бұрын
@@newax_productions2069 it's not just itemization rework and they have added more end game. Since season 1, they've now added essentially several pinnacle bosses, several Uber bosses to farm for Duriel, with Uber versions of each, as well as The Pit, which is similar to D3 greater rifts. There's also the gauntlet. They've reworked hell tides entirely. I agree the end game was non-existent at launch for D4, but I unironically think that D4's end game is totally serviceable now with season 4 (having played the PTR). IMO the end game beats Last Epoch. It's not at POE level, but I actually like the hell tides/Pit/bossing loop now + what's the seasonal content brings. So, you should give season 4 a shot if you dropped off after launch. I liked season 2. Barely played season 3, but am really stoked for S4.
@zsep8688
4 ай бұрын
@@newax_productions2069 "the endgame content that no one gets to anyways hasn't had anything added to it!" So they changed important stuff, then?
@dnice374
4 ай бұрын
@@zsep8688 yes. you won't recognize crafting. or helltides. lvl 200 bosses. pit. i was at ptr, new ish coming for all classes. i was on the verge of "retiring" and now i want to play worse than june 23. it is the game i wanted at launch. i still think it needs more itemization work and challenge events, but it's basically a whole new game post-100 now. played 40 hours and didn't accomplish anything
@Machino
4 ай бұрын
[Draws a baseball diamond] "What is this, a batting field or a baseball green?" 😅
@Perrytheplatypus11
4 ай бұрын
Take care of your health. We are grateful for your videos and we want you here for a long time
@umbranoxx
4 ай бұрын
Can't wait for season 4, been counting the days
@____GoMeZ____
4 ай бұрын
same! I even took a few days off just to grind. Cant wait!
@dnice374
4 ай бұрын
i've been farming those duriel mats and looking at the calendar
@thirtysilver33
4 ай бұрын
Rod, just stop!
@tomieedzsi
4 ай бұрын
@@dnice374 you know every season is a fresh start??!
@dnice374
4 ай бұрын
@@tomieedzsi wow
@ADesertVoice
4 ай бұрын
Nope, D4 will not even be considered on a "come back" until they introduce a Paladin class.
@metamon2704
4 ай бұрын
the problem you will need to pay for an expansion, there is no way they will introduce new classes for free.
@marktwain09
4 ай бұрын
What a baby
@nicknicksiren
4 ай бұрын
Quite simply, I don't believe it is possible for Diablo 4 to ever be good while it's design leads are in charge. The team lacks the cohesive design direction needed for ARPGs, and this shown time and time again in their decisions. I just don't think they know what makes a good ARPG, and more importantly they lack the willingness to ask how it's done.
@KiteVtuberDefender
4 ай бұрын
This is weird the one thing the D4 dev team does is ask and respond. That's part of the issue.
@gozutheDJ
4 ай бұрын
ask who?
@Swarley218
4 ай бұрын
"good" is pretty subjective...
@KiteVtuberDefender
4 ай бұрын
@@gozutheDJ All the diablo 4 dev team does is ask and adapt to what people want instead of sticking to their own ideas that's part of the issue because they have no clear direction.
@lucasdesvignes7190
4 ай бұрын
@@KiteVtuberDefender isn't it what they were doing and that's why people were complaining ? i think it's good for a dev team to listen to feedback, but to a certain extent i agree with you.
@imqqmi
4 ай бұрын
Have a good rest and vacation! If the stress has been building you might want to consider taking a 3 week vacation this year, 4 days really isn't going to cut it to get rid of 4-5 years of stress. I'll wait a bit if the season is good then I might reinstall it and take a look. I'm taking my time with LE, it's pretty good so far (lvl 50 right now).
@Vhalior666
4 ай бұрын
The one thing holding me back from Diablo 4 is that there are hundreds, if not thousands, of better games I could be playing - both solo or with my friends. It'll take something mind-blowing and huge to bring me back to D4 and I can't see Blizzard achieving that any time soon with their current seasonal model. They need to make extremely big changes and focus on permanent content, rather than temporary guff that vanishes into the ether every 12 weeks.
@metallicafan416
4 ай бұрын
You can't name 1000 games 😮
@Jillas666
4 ай бұрын
And there's 10000 games so much worse than Diablo 4 and people keep playing them due to different reasons (F2P Gacha games like Genshin and 1000 of different variations of it is a good example), Blizzard already achieved an amazing result when they made killing of thousands of identical monsters fun despite you do it all the time and yet it is still enjoyable no matter how many hours you played, that alone is a good reason to play D4, yet D4 fails in other aspects, it doesn't respect the time of a player, it forces you to spent hours on item sorting and other boring stuff, that shit need to change in S4!
@EnzoVinZ
4 ай бұрын
Bases are full and coach Ferggy told the batting Even team to bunt or just a base hit. I'm not optimistic or delusion enough to pretend that Blizz has a slugger in their line-up. Or they intend to hit a homerun and bring all bases home. They will continue to do base hits season after season.
@insyn4225
4 ай бұрын
I’m slightly optimistic to see what S4 will actually bring to the table and how it all feels. So I will definitely give it a shot. While waiting for S4, I discovered another ARPG which I quite enjoy playing and put in some hours into it, and it surprises me that no “ARPG content creator” mentioned it in their videos and only talk about PoE and LE. The game that got me busy while waiting: Grim Dawn. This game is really a gem. Available for PC and Xbox, give it a shot.
@travisdavis3816
4 ай бұрын
I played about 10 minutes of season three but I’m definitely looking forward to season 4
@immatoll4375
4 ай бұрын
Pretty similar for me. Had fun at beta, release and season 2, but I barely touched season 1 or 3. But it's similar to Diablo 3 where I played a season and skipped for years again. The thing Diablo is still superior over the other ARPGs is that its often fun to play with friends while PoE/LE feel far more like Solo-Games. I love PoE and LE, played it for years but I think these game have also mayor issues. LE has a fun crafting/itemization system but feels heavy bound to pre-defined builds per class as well as combat feels not that engaging somehow over time (e.g. everything is mostly a oneshot and higher corruption becomes just boring). PoE relies too much on third party tools/pages I'm not a fan of like you have to plan a build in advance to have a proper idea of how to play. Too much stuff is "hidden" but visible on third party websites (e.g. craftofexile). We are not in the 90s anymore where "finding out by yourself" was exiting, because there was no internet. I think they make the game worse for people who wants to just try stuff out instead of planning ahead, follow a guide or run down a checklist.
@IIDEADBIRDII
4 ай бұрын
I think there are a few things why people are saying yes. 1) it’s something new. 2) people wanted Diablo 4 to be good. As popular as negative content is. More people just want the game to work. 3) people already own D4 there’s no loss to them to just try the free update.
@user-Calrulk55
4 ай бұрын
If you haven't figured out the Iron Wolves rep yet here it is, one of the rewards will be Wolf mount which will justify making them purchasable in the store also.
@ulruc
4 ай бұрын
And how about they have a good season mecanic this time, as opposed to S3?
@anitaremenarova6662
4 ай бұрын
The meme seems to be that even seasons are the good ones, let's hope for similar or greater level of quality as S2.
@mace8704
4 ай бұрын
There is nothing out right now. I’m waiting for the Elden Ring expansion, but even then, I want a relatively chill game to play that doesn’t require me to sweat. Hoping season 4 is good. Stopped shortly into season 1 and the nerf scandal.
@Crown.A
4 ай бұрын
I’ll come back but only if there is a new mount for sale for 150$
@Daniel-dz2pj
4 ай бұрын
SHHHH THEYLL HEAR YOU
@Dreadskull91
4 ай бұрын
Let's go full Tarkov mode and see a $250 price tag. Send it.
@kaullm
4 ай бұрын
300 after tax lol
@akj2387
4 ай бұрын
For me it's the rift thingy, I forgot what it was called but the arena thing. That's what I loved about D3, it was so satisfying grinding, and then all of a sudden u receive a new item which makes u smash your previous rift record. Especially when you've JUST hit 70 without the final set, the progression feels so satisfying, although it does die down after a few weeks into the season. But then, u come again the next season with a new build. At least that's how it was for me. Edit : Artificer’s Pit Anyways, I hope it'll be similar to the GR's in D3. But I still miss the matchmaking from D3, where u could just jump in to a GR session with random's with the click of a button. I found it extremely satisfying when you've just hit 70 and you feel you're getting carried for loot.
@LenDawg203
4 ай бұрын
I truly believe Blizz implementing changes and saying "the game is better now" is part of their strategy to keep people coming back each season. If mechanics were perfect on release people would be bored by now regardless of the season theme/game play. Im not above falling into their trap though, ill be back for s4 and buy the season pass.
@FloridaBikeSupplyOnline
3 ай бұрын
I'm thinking about comming back right now. I woke up this morning, got my shower done, coffee, need a good game. Wellll, looks like wife has way different plans. Maybe tomorrow I'll try
@tunnfisk
4 ай бұрын
Hello! I didn't vote on any polls but here's my Diablo 4 "story". Played preseason, was okay, enjoyed it a little bit. Season 1 dropped, I played not even a week and thought it was too much like preseason so I dipped. Season 2, lot of new stuff, I played, I enjoyed, grinded out couple of hundred hours at least. Season 3, didn't even play it until I heard what was coming for Season 4. And the ONLY reason I played S3, other than S4 news, was that I figured I could grind out the battle pass and seasonal activities before S4 dropped. And this due to them extending it another month. Otherwise I wouldn't have bothered. Season 4 sounds like a lot of fun. I'm liking what I've heard about it and am looking forward to grind it. I don't necessarily believe it will be D4's comeback. I think what we have now is what will be. People will come a season, and not play another, back and forth until they game is replaced by Diablo 5 (or maybe Diablo Immortal 2?? Do you guys still not have phones???). This is what they need to keep doing though, if they want players to return to seasons. Add new stuff, fix old stuff, overhaul stuff, stuff stuff. On a more personal note, I hope you feel better. Life is a series of ups and downs and we all struggle in our own ways. Take a break and feel better. ❤
@tepiwagrey5908
4 ай бұрын
Casual gamer here.. I only play to level 50! I think that paragon board is a complete waste of time. It’s not fun adding stats to something you can’t even see an effect!
@SlugDemon6
4 ай бұрын
I think that itemization hurts D4 really badly in terms of enjoyablity currently. It's easily the biggest pain point that we currently have in the game. There also being more endgame is also just gonna get people to play for longer.
@danielaxelsson8881
4 ай бұрын
Goal post, "Will Diablo 4 be saved?", " Will Diablo 4 be good again?", "Will Diablo 4 have a comeback?"
@Sure0Foot
4 ай бұрын
I've been Sofa King eager to jump back in, I feel like I did 2 weeks before the release. Last night my wife & I were in front of the TV and she asked me "When does Season 4 start again?" that means she wants to play it too! Oh, and DM--it's a "diamond" 🙂
@DirtRabbit
4 ай бұрын
It’s late, I’m lazy, so this may have been discussed, but I immediately noticed the most glaringly obvious data point that would indicate that D4 is actually even worse off. The first poll got 45k votes. The second poll got 10k. Which means 35k people either stopped consuming D4 content entirely and thus didn’t even notice the second poll. Or they saw it and care so little about D4 that they didn’t even care to submit an opinion. That’s… well that’s not a great sign for a D4 “comeback” unfortunately. It won’t die, it still has a pool of people who will likely always return for some period of time with each season. But that’s the D4 audience. She ain’t gonna get any bigger or smaller than that
@Xenc5
4 ай бұрын
Game Pass has helped tremendously with popularity
@dustins7259
4 ай бұрын
The first poll was 45k and the second was 10k. This in itself is not comparing apples to apples. The ones that were done with D4 back then are not consuming D4 content and that is why the second poll is in favor of a comeback as the players still consuming D4 content are in favor of this. D4 will get an increase in player count for about a week maybe 2 weeks and drop back off, that is all the content the game has.
@panda93247
4 ай бұрын
I really do hope D4 makes a comeback. I don't play the game, but for the people that payed that ridiculous $70 price, I think they deserve a good game.
@kuksio92
4 ай бұрын
Played d4 ptr from scratch with a barb. Was having a blast. Itemization is much better, but i'd love to have runes and runewords too, but maybe in a different patch. Definitely gonna start new season. Prior to this, ive finished the campaign at launch, played some endgame, stopped cuz the game was v0.7, not 1.0 didnt touch any season.
@randyryan00
4 ай бұрын
There is an additional factor which will impact people playing at the launch of Season 4 ... the game is now on Microsoft Game Pass... this means there is a HUGE base of people who will fall into the "Hype" from a very recognizable game title, stating a fresh Season, which is now included with something they are already paying for to play completely different games. I think this will contribute to D4 S4 having the largest surge since the initial launch of the game, possibly even larger... Just my 2c on the topic. Love the content, keep it up.
@th3cub350
4 ай бұрын
Those numbers are definitly people like me that are waiting for LE new cycle and are finishing with current PoE season, im like "oh hell let's see how much improvements they made and maybe finally get my 70$ worth " wait & see ! I genuinely wish for the game to be better, more competition is always better. Take some rest DM, well deserved !
@Slugubus
4 ай бұрын
“ a batting green “ 😂
@rudysarcade
4 ай бұрын
Season 4 will definitely be in the best place D4 had been in. I think a lot of builds will be OP and that will lead people to having fun. It might not keep the hard-core players long but the casual players will definitely have a better time if not nerfed to the ground before now and launch. We will just have to see. I didn't play last season but I will definitely be back for the new changes.
@aaronwe9850
4 ай бұрын
If D4 has to hope for X and Y and other variables to be perfect, well, too bad for them. Not gonna happen. Hopefully, the D4 dev team and management have listened to the feedback from the PTR and have adjusted things. If they didn't, well, too bad for them. The best we can get is an okay state. Maybe they can move to decent or even good. Or not.
@MightiestBeard
4 ай бұрын
No reason to not check it out if you're already an owner, like most of us probably are. I'm really rooting for them tbh. I think they actually will get a pass if this season is sort of just OK on top of good foundational changes. But if the expansion doesn't realign things I think they'll make some big leadership changes.
@baysedgamer
4 ай бұрын
So your analogy, D4 hits a grand slam, POE scores, LE scores, itemization scores, and D4 scores…yeah that makes sense to me! Haha I love ya man.
@viktorstorelv
4 ай бұрын
As a casual dad-gamer I have enjoyed the game from the beginning. But I have grown tired of the game in the middle of each season, because of lack of content. Without the uberuniques, I still managed to fly through every content (except the season2-stuff, which I didn't want to try...) I'm looking forward to some good hours in s4!:)
@CCSplinters
4 ай бұрын
I always go back playing D4 not because I'm excited with the changes or hyped with what's coming. It's just the "I want to make THAT build" idea that I wanted to do but really bored of D4's current state so I'm holding it off just in case the next season could be good/better. New season is fresh, probably new aspects/uniques that might help with the build idea and of course, it's a part of ARPG rotation. Might take a just few days to make that build but pretty sure, LE Cycle 2 is almost done and will be up and running close to D4's S4.
@Tomsm8
4 ай бұрын
it's a shame only a third of players that voted they were done on the 1st poll, voted on the 2nd poll.
@xWhackoJacko
4 ай бұрын
I don't know if its so much a comeback, as it is 'okay, I'll give it another shot' kinda thing. It'd be nice if these changes gave the game legs, though. If they can keep momentum and hype for 2-3 seasons straight while continuing to improve the game - THEN i'd call it a comeback.
@RamzaBehoulve
4 ай бұрын
A lot of people always had in their subconscious it would take about a year and possibly the first expansion to fix the game. S4 is the first step, but the real true do or die to bring back players for D4 is the expansion.
@sol5916
4 ай бұрын
I don’t see any reason people wouldn’t come back. Diablo 4 has the best graphics of any arpg, period. Character movement is smooth as butter. The only thing that pushed people away was the lack of quality of life, bad itemization, and subpar endgame. The first two is fixed. And even the endgame seems much improved to launch. I’ll give it a spin next season for sure
@cafecaram4747
4 ай бұрын
sorry, but the poll is not realy representativ. 10k responses to 44k ... it is to be assumed that a huge amount from the first poll who voted no just did not even bother showing up to the second poll. so from first to second just shows that only those who still retained playing interest even poll. and those people are even split in the response. i do NOT believe that d4 even is going to be noteable in the future with the continued pricing structure
@TheZROLimit
4 ай бұрын
I’m cautiously optimistic. Really want to try the game again when S4 drops. But I’m waiting on the catch. There’s always a catch when dealing with these big companies. I hope it’s good because I haven’t played since season 1 and enjoy the Diablo universe in general.
@Kjetilstorm
4 ай бұрын
What do you mean catch? What was the catch last time that was required to play other than the internet connection and price of the game?
@EldenLord84
4 ай бұрын
The biggest thing for me is season theme / mechanic. All of the seasons they’ve done thus far - especially season 3 - have been duds. Give me a longer seasonal quest line. More story. Better mechanics. Anything to make the playtime interesting.
@SKLLZTHATKILLZ
4 ай бұрын
Ive been loving diablo recently. Excited to play with these changes. I am sure with it on game pass there will be a solid player base and hopwfully more great updates to follow
@MechaTrogd0r
4 ай бұрын
I've never played D4 but i'm keeping tabs on this. I'm a little hesitant though even if it gets good feedback because of how much it seems to change season to season. I would not like to spend a bunch of money for a game that could become worse again a few months later.
@Sylar589
4 ай бұрын
I got 700h+ in game and after S1 I got burned out and felt like its nothing to do anymore. I missed out on S2 and tried out a little bit of S3 but got bored fast. After trying out the PTR I had so much fun and can't wait for S4. I hyped like its game launch!
@theStr4yD0g
4 ай бұрын
I'm going to pick a fresh character and play until I get bored. We will see how long it takes until I get bored. If I get to level 60, then it's kindof a W.
@Jillas666
4 ай бұрын
You have no other choice but to pick a fresh character with each new season, and if you were talking about Eternal realm, I urge you to play seasonal character instead, because most changes and newly added gameplay elements will be in Seasonal realm! Returning to D4 and keep on playing Eternal realm has no sense, because Eternal realm is usually 1 season behind, so it will be like playing S3 instead of S4, it probably would get the new itemization from S4, but not other new features...
@derringera
4 ай бұрын
I think I'm more in line with the average D4 player who finished the campaign and thought "pretty good!" Then found myself mind numbingly bored leveling from 50-75 and never picked the game back up to have an opinion of endgame itemization.
@ryanh7844
4 ай бұрын
This is how I felt and put the game down shortly after playing season 1. Season 4 does sound promising so I want to give it another go.
@heliobarbosa3525
4 ай бұрын
Here is where I am at: - Let's hope the season mechanic isn't something attrocious like more wasps and traps - I have some fun in D4 playing the builds they overbuffed to look cool, it is mindless fun - keys are bad, and so are repetitive puzzles like prisoners/levers. Having more sources for keys and less prisoners doesn't help that much, since ideally those things shouldn't exist for core aspects of the game like uber farming and sigil levelling (this is what makes the gameplay loop a failure to me, they seem adamant about keeping it) Realistically speaking, getting 900+ items in fun helltides might be good enough for me, let's hope they don't break the mindless monster clearing with their twisted notion of "fun".
@TaysonPlaysGuitar
4 ай бұрын
My main issue with diablo 4 is every season you have to redo the entire campaign all over again. If they followed destiny 2s seasonal design where they add new loot and activities and your character stays max level I'd be more motivated to grind diablo 4 but as it sits now the game just isnt good enough to justify the massive grind every season.
@eduardogomes7037
4 ай бұрын
Biggest issue for me with D4 since launch is that the classes are not fun. If you have an ARPG with not so interesting classes, low chances to succeed in my opinion. Have you seen the sorcerer's fireball? That is what i'm talking about.
@KHALK008
4 ай бұрын
45k in 1st poll vs. 10K in 2nd poll. People who said NO in the first poll didn't answer the 2nd. So the 13K YES in 1st poll split between YES/NO in the 2nd poll so it's actually worse 🤣
@reportimortal
4 ай бұрын
If you rly think the main reason people will comeback to try D4 again is the itemization, you really need to study more what are casual players.
@bullseye7074
4 ай бұрын
Itemization fits right into the casual wheelhouse. How long are casual players grinding for right stats when there are 82535 possibilities? Now, at least there is a chance of getting decent stats and rolls.
@Elysiumlost
4 ай бұрын
It’s the main reason I’m going to come back. The current system is frustrating to engage with, I want to just chill and play Diablo.
@Jillas666
4 ай бұрын
Everyone who played D4 hated spending more time in town than in actual dungeons, and old itemization/codex is the reason why people had to store the crap they don't need, now they could just salvage all these items and all aspects will be updated with the best stats, no need to extract perfect aspects anymore!
@reportimortal
4 ай бұрын
@@Jillas666 no, the reason why people did quit the game is that the game STILL don't have an proper endgame. That was annoying, but not for casuals, who are the majority, and didn't have that much items to deal with like others who used to play the game 5hrs a day. You people have ZERO understanding what is a casual player, just like Blizzard.
@reportimortal
4 ай бұрын
@@Elysiumlost how many hours you were playing back then?
@Ralsar
4 ай бұрын
I enjoyed playing Diablo 4 well enough it just didnt have the staying power I hoped. I'll keep jumping in with each season to try it out.
@Adrian-pp6qy
4 ай бұрын
No shit, people might give a try to something they paid €70-100 for and completely got screwed over by it a year ago. I don't know how is it even that much surprising dude...
@abraxis59
4 ай бұрын
ENJOY your vacation!!! I do find the perspective of all the content creators on D4 is very interesting. D4 may not be as popular amongst the more hardcore DARPG community (what I call Diablo likes), but to measure the game even by your more D4 focused audience is so skewed its almost meaningless. If you look at Active Player that tracks these things, the average daily player count has been hovering at over 1,000,000 per day. There are spikes up and down in TOTAL player count when there is a new season start, but they have a steady core of a little over 1M that are online in a day (right now there are 144K online this hour). So, yes it is important to the future of the game that this season goes well as it could double that number over the long term, but make no mistake that it will continue to be a successful game either way. I bring this up because we (myself included) need to keep our perspectives in context. LE is a game that truly relies on the opinion of this community to survive because it is an indie game and it is DESIGNED for this audience. I find it to be a VERY approachable game and really top notch, but they are not trying to be casual enough to play to the audience D4 has. I also think that it is important to remember this because D4 is NOT designed for "us" as more serious gamers in general. So, there are limits to how much complexity any of their systems will ever have. The Paragon board only functions as well as it does for the game because finding guides on how to build it out are plentiful on the web and all you need to do is fill it in like they say. With PoE and LE there is a lot more to consider to get things the way YOU want it because the choices in the passive trees are so much more impactful overall. As a result, if you go into the game knowing it is a DARPG light you may really enjoy it. If you go in expecting the depth of either of the other two games, there is a much higher chance of disappointment and that is fine too. D4 will just more likely not be for you. I myself enjoy the game as a relaxing button mashing fest, but as a DRPG player I do appreciate the changes I tried on the PTR and I think I will end up enjoying it much more now.
@Anfa18
4 ай бұрын
One could argue 25k from the first poll don't search for D4 news or watch D4 media anymore.
@codipherus66
4 ай бұрын
Diablo 4 fireball: 2 options Last Epoch fireball: 20 options Path of Exile fireball: hundreds... D4 is a 2005 game in a 2024 genre.
@Tuggs22
4 ай бұрын
The problem is the developer. Blizzard has proven to fail us as fans time and time again for years and especially with diablo 4. As a life long blizzard gamer i just don't see any remnants of the O.G. Blizzard staff influence.
@TheMusicolophile
4 ай бұрын
Well Darth, I hate to break it to you but your survey is a tad flawed with nothing but Blizzard haters as subscribers. That being said, there are a lot of people playing every time I log into the game. Which is nice because it’s a damn good game.
@lionzcrown1702
4 ай бұрын
There are a lot of people that dropped the game rightfully so, which makes his survey an excellent source for whose willing to come back
@rogero8443
4 ай бұрын
This is all wrong. We all paid for this game, that's why we're going to try it. Don't get so distanced from reality. We just hope it keep us interested longer than two days. I doubt it will be, because all Diablo iterations are like that.
@quixadhal
4 ай бұрын
No, it will never see a comeback. What it WILL see is people who already spent their $100 loading it up briefly to see what's changed, realizing the core game loop is still the same, and going away again. No amount of spreadsheet number fudging is going to make the basic game FUN once you run off the end of the main storyline. For that, you have to be willing to take risks and try things nobody else has done yet, and the people at Blizzard are not allowed to take risks.
@nothing55rk
4 ай бұрын
I'll be playing season 4.. the PTR was awesome... Less see how it all fares in production. My main issue with D4 is the skill trees. I was really hoping last year at launch that D4 would have skills more akin to D2 or Last Epoch... Sadly D4's skills system is it biggest draw back for me.
@Warsign01
4 ай бұрын
It's a great time for gamers. There are so many amazing games out right now. I don't really see much new in D4. I'm afraid D4 is a one and done game. I loved the initial play through, though. Summertime is here too.
@markkennett2956
4 ай бұрын
I'm in the will look at it bracket, if it lives up to expectations then I might keep playing.
@zapporius
4 ай бұрын
Also, your second poll might be biased, 6 months ago 40K ppl voted, and this time 10K people voted. Those 10K who voted are probably people who are more likely to try D4 again, and they are following your channel for D4 news.
@zarthemad8386
4 ай бұрын
bingo
@DarkepyonX
4 ай бұрын
Darth definitely needs a vacation 😂 Pulling out the Paint and pulling a Rax
@fenryl33
4 ай бұрын
i will try d4 for the 1st time with the game pass now including d4. had a blast with le and now im curious about the competior
@BabyDahl28
4 ай бұрын
think most people who bought the game will come back and try season 4. I mean, why wouldn't they? If you own it, its a free update to try. I don't think POE and LE will effect them knocking it out of the park either. Think its A) Itemization B) Ability to take feedback and incorporated multiple things, not just one or two small items C) Having enough things to hold my attention for a period of time. Item rework and master smithing (or whatever its called) sound great, but I don't want to be stuck running dungeons over and over again just to get mats to upgrade my gear for no reason. Playing the PTR, the gear all seamed vanilla. They removed so much that it seems like every gear is having similar stats rolled. The tombs for enchanting special affixes on gear have some pretty underwhelming stats as well. Would be completely ok if they rolled out and said they are taking a season to ensure better creation of alt characters and improving the social aspect of game so we didn't need to utilize 3rd party software to do things. I would make alts, but its not worth it to me until they make the glyph leveling sync across all characters on the season. Prob get roasted, but I would even take lower drop rates of items if it meant we didnt need to farm endlessly for boss mats.
@rickdiculous2477
4 ай бұрын
It's possible for Diablo to have a comeback, sure, but always be careful of hype. Go in with low expectations so you can be surprised, IMO. Hype is the enjoyment killer.
@kohaku-saurus6898
4 ай бұрын
not gonna lie im excited for the changes and im looking forward to whatever season 4 had to offer us, been playing other stuff during my diablo 4 downtimes, certainly not a quitter though. Hoping we get another kinda reputation thing for season 4 i did enjoy that mechanic in season 2 as long as its not too grindy and we can earn reputation in a few different ways
@FedDonovan
4 ай бұрын
Until loot get changed I won't ..I want to be able to carry my weapon and uniques to next season ... That reset stuff is not working ... And you have people telling u go to the eternal ...who in the world play there ..no body..
@OldKnightAMV
4 ай бұрын
Before I even watch this...... Having finally gotten past act 3 in path of exile, I don't think I can ever play D4 ever again. It has proven that they are creatively bankrupt.
@vitoraugusto1085
4 ай бұрын
I don't let myself be carried away by illusions. The same happened with Diablo 3 in the past. And the same happens with d4. I have already crossed out the blizzard in my life and my life is too short to suffer eternally.
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