How do we validate the Quran? The Bible. How do we know what is true in the Bible? The Quran. ⭕
@JunkyJeeMail
Ай бұрын
@@kennypriest7434 The Torah prophecies the Advent of Christ, God in the Flesh, not the coming of the false prophêt.
@JunkyJeeMail
Ай бұрын
@@kennypriest7434 Yeah, the Torah says to disregard false prophêts while Jesus said that false prophêts would come after Him. So yes, the false prophêt of Islam's allåh is foreseen.
@@JunkyJeeMail The people believing in the Torah don't believe Jesus was the messiah.
@JunkyJeeMail
Ай бұрын
@@lucianmacandrew1001 That's because they go by the Talmud; ergo, those people follow a modern system known as Rabbinical Judaism, not the Second-Temple Judaism out of which Orthodox Christianity is begotten.
@andrewpirr
Ай бұрын
The Quran tells the 8th century Christian to use the Gospel to judge the Quran. If that is no longer possible (due to corruption), the Quran is not eternally true.
@orangus_8302
Ай бұрын
don’t we also have 8th century texts at that time which shows it’s actually not corrupted so they can’t even use the corrupted argument
@bigol9223
Ай бұрын
@@orangus_8302the "corrupted bible" argument has never had any validity. I've had muslims point me to the RSV and NIV to show me how modern versions of the bible use different words and therefore it is impossible to know the true original scripture. When I tell them we still have the scriptures we had when the quran was written so we can just go back to what that says instead of worrying about new "versions" they insist that their NIV gimmick has disproved those scriptures.
@braindead5834
Ай бұрын
@@bigol9223that’s such a weird argument considering virtually all English translations are conveying the same ideas even if they use different wording and translation methods
@bigol9223
Ай бұрын
@@braindead5834 I would say there are definitely some creative licenses taken with interpreting what some passages are saying and that leads people to strange assumptions with different versions, but either way yes, the idea that the original meaning is lost, just because a new version printed in the past century exists, is just stupid on the most surface level.
@Armitage01101
Ай бұрын
@@bigol9223you have to be a certain type of person to be unable to comprehend that translation is an art, and that a degree of interpretation is required - and arguing that this means you don't know what's in the original text is just stupidity incarnate
@OrthodoxMario
Ай бұрын
Without lies, islam dies.
@OrthodoxMario
Ай бұрын
@@Asphyx1ator don't be salty
@Svengrustaben
Ай бұрын
So does Christianity
@Divinecter
Ай бұрын
@@Svengrustabenno because there are no lies
@mmr1137
Ай бұрын
@@SvengrustabenOverall Christianity is more rightful. If a wife is not listening to you, you can beat or punish her according to Quran. A men can have 4 wives, but a woman can have only 1 husband. According to Quran also if someone attack you, you have right to kill them, you can even comit genocide. According to Bible and Jesus words not only we should not fight them, we should forget them, and bless our enemies. If they try to steal our shirt only we should give them our coat as well even tho they didn't ask for coat. When you look message of Quran and Bible it is much obvious who has more rightful message.
@EasternRomanAficionado
Ай бұрын
@@SvengrustabenJustify your assertion.
@Mojauk771
Ай бұрын
I don't think that the Islamic narrative is worthy of profound theological arguments. What's presented on the surface level is sufficient for invalidating its claims. Props to you Mr Dyer and all our polemicist and apologist Brothers
@andrewpirr
Ай бұрын
100%
@LTMoro
4 күн бұрын
yet Islam has 2 billion followers. and is expected to become the world's number one religion by 2050 after overtaking Christianity.
@andrewpirr
4 күн бұрын
@@LTMoro and it's still false
@Mojauk771
4 күн бұрын
@@LTMoro and yet you're here . Keep going and learning.
@OrthoBro7516
Ай бұрын
Lol this is shot just like Hamzas 1 minute refutation of Christianity ... But Jay ACTUALLY debunks Islam in his version 😂
@user-oe4nd9qm7d
15 күн бұрын
He didn't debunk anything except purposing new fallacies and exposing his own religious di-authentication,
@EasternRomanAficionado
5 күн бұрын
@@user-oe4nd9qm7dThen refute his arguments bucko. I'll wait.
@user-oe4nd9qm7d
4 күн бұрын
@@EasternRomanAficionado 😂😂😂; Firstly applauding your pathetic stupidity, I already stated the dis-validation of the purposed argument by stating it's fallacious. You know what, I'll be more clearer. The Quran acknowledges previous scriptures like the Torah and the Gospel but notes that some people have misinterpreted or altered them over time. the idea that new revelations must be consistent with existing scriptures assumes those texts remained unchanged, which isn't necessarily true. That argument is based upon assumptions in essence fallacious. Let me turn the same question back at you; why do modern biblical transcript contradict the earliest Greek manuscripts we possessed.
@user-oe4nd9qm7d
3 күн бұрын
@@EasternRomanAficionado Huh! He deleted my comment (either it was him or youtube)
@99range92def
Ай бұрын
hypotheticals? sorry doesn't compute.
@albohnayen
Ай бұрын
man, that sneako stream 😂
@slavicorthobro
Ай бұрын
Gonna be 1,000 years before a Muslim can finally understand this argument - for some reason they can't seem to compute it.
@WTL-f5u
6 күн бұрын
It’s mostly arrogance.
@obdios
Ай бұрын
In conclusion: the strongest argument is muhammad ignorance about bible 😂
@Sinha010
Ай бұрын
"How can I do that if it's in the past. We're here today."
@triggered8556
Ай бұрын
But I didn’t eat breakfast
@frmyt1135
Ай бұрын
I’ve had Muslims say that you essentially just have to cherry pick the prior revelations and read Islam into it despite their “corruptions” to confirm the Quran, and that the Quran itself is self confirming by its “perfection” and that there’s no internal contradictions in it and that only God could reveal such a book. Which is basically just a bunch of presuppositions on what God should be like outside of divine revelation then they appeal to the Quran itself again which is circular. Islam really just hinges on what they think God should be like
@Metascetic
Ай бұрын
I go around on all the live videos and basically just copy paste this argument. Nobody ever replies to it lol It’s because they can’t or do not comprehend it
@JohnSmith-wo2fz
Ай бұрын
Absolute haram!
@ZAYA2227
Ай бұрын
"they twisted it with their tongues"
@jaydyerlivestreamsabsurdities
Ай бұрын
Exactly- not the text itself. idiotic
@lolsing2205
Ай бұрын
@@jaydyerlivestreamsabsurdities jay whens the next stream coming
@Csay12
Ай бұрын
And that leads to the next defeater for Islam. . . If Muslims want to say the Bible is corrupt, then Islam is false because according to the Quran (Surahs 6:114-115 & 18:27), God's words can never be corrupted.
@lucianmacandrew1001
Ай бұрын
But Muslims don't say the Bible is the word of God. It was inspired by God and misinterpreted by men. So the Bible is a misinterpretation of God's words according tot he Quran.
@Ihavehadmanynames7779
Ай бұрын
I want to agree with you but I literally don’t understand sh i t you don’t type properly or eloquently
@Csay12
Ай бұрын
@lucianmacandrew1001 Muslims can say all they want to try and explain it away. The Quran affirms the Torah and the Gospel, it refers to them as Divine Books (read Surah 3:3; 5:44-47). Surah 16:43-44 We did not send ˹messengers˺ before you ˹O Prophet˺ except mere men inspired by Us. If you ˹polytheists˺ do not know ˹this already˺, then ask those who have knowledge ˹of the Scriptures˺. ˹We sent them˺ with clear proofs and divine Books. And We have sent down to you ˹O Prophet˺ the Reminder, so that you may explain to people what has been revealed for them, and perhaps they will reflect. Surah 10:94-95 If you ˹O Prophet˺ are in doubt about ˹these stories˺ that We have revealed to you, then ask those who read the Scripture before you. The truth has certainly come to you from your Lord, so do not be one of those who doubt, and do not be one of those who deny Allah’s signs or you will be one of the losers. If a Jew, Christian, or Muslim is supposed to confirm the Quran using prior revelation (the Scriptures) then they certainly have application during the 7th century. For Islam, it's self defeating, the prior revelation exposes Muhammad as a false prophet. If you want to say the Scriptures are corrupt, just realize there are manuscripts that date back long before the 7th century and the text is the same. The prophets themselves would have had to "misinterpret" the revelation, but thats corruption, and Allahs words cannot be corrupted. . .
@theunfortunategreek.
Ай бұрын
ABSOLUTELY DUBOOKED 😵
@occultislux
Ай бұрын
Wallahi the brother has deboonked Islam 😢
@DaBxprince83
7 күн бұрын
I am Jewish old man and I say Islam is truth
@czuw2967
Ай бұрын
Wait, what’s a hypothetical?
@Orthosplode-nx8mz
Ай бұрын
I think it’s when you get hypothermic
@seraphim95
Ай бұрын
"Hypothetical is hypocritical!"
@ScribesKartel
Ай бұрын
Alhamduillah jay dyer (pbuh) has only strengthened my imaaaammm. "Its not the eyes that are blind but the heart" 🤲🤲 mashallah mashallah
@Wildxgiyu
Ай бұрын
Keep saying this after your entire religion gets proven to be wrong.
@ScribesKartel
Ай бұрын
@@Wildxgiyu alhamduillah inshallah
@Wildxgiyu
Ай бұрын
@@ScribesKartel what is that supposed to mean?
@ScribesKartel
Ай бұрын
@@Wildxgiyu allah ho allam
@Wildxgiyu
Ай бұрын
@@ScribesKartel bro what
@yawarhussain7219
Ай бұрын
The multiple versions of the 'Bible' signify its corruption by the scribes. The Bible is a sacred scripture in its pure form and even in its current form contains many truths. If you were to compare which religion is closer to the ;Old Testament', its Islam not Christianity as pointed out by many Rabbis. Unfortunately, toxic videos created by all groups including Muslims seek to 'destroy' and 'debunk' the other. A respectful dialogue is needed instead of these 1 min videos.
@Orthosplode-nx8mz
Ай бұрын
Islam is closer to the Old Testament than the Christians? I’m sorry what?! Have you even read it? Do you have a priesthood, liturgical worship, sacrifice? No, you don’t. Yet when I read it I see all that that’s gone in Islam. Also if you’ve read the Old Testament you’d see that there isn’t a Unitarian god but a Triad. Here’s a handful of the Theophanies in the OT: -Genesis 1:2 -Genesis 1:26 -Genesis 3:8 -Genesis 16:9-13 -Genesis 18:1-2 -Genesis 22:11-12 -Genesis 32:22-32 -Exodus 3:2-4 -Numbers 22:22-38 -Numbers 6:24-26 -Judges 2:1-3 -Judges 6:11-23 -Judges 13:3-22 -Zechariah 1:12 -Zechariah 3:4 -Isaiah 6:8 -Isaiah 48:16 -Isaiah 61:1 -Psalm 33:6 -Psalm 110:1 -Proverbs 8:22-31 -Daniel 7:13-14
@cicerogsuphoesdown7723
25 күн бұрын
We have Bible manuscripts from the 7th century (same time as Muhammad’s life)The 6th century. 5th century. And the vulgate from the 4th century. All have the exact some content as today’s translations. They’re the same. Where’s the corruption dude? Do you even know what you’re talking about? Why are you just saying these nonsense slogans without actually looking into it lmao
@Sid3-yx7xq
2 күн бұрын
Yes, sure it is closer... Is allah a father to humans? Because in the Old Testament repeatedly it says so.
@kugakun2316
Күн бұрын
@@Sid3-yx7xqno Allah are not Father to anyone
@Sid3-yx7xq
10 сағат бұрын
@@kugakun2316So allah is not the God of Abraham Moses etc. From that, we see that the quran contradicts the Bible. Therefore the quran is false because it claims that it confirms the Bible. Welcome to the islamic dilemma 🎉
@gshell2520
Ай бұрын
" u cant question Allah " 😉
@AK-iy2xg
Ай бұрын
Hey Jay, I suggest you do what Plato did in his academy. He had an inscription (which he probably copied from Pythagoras, with good intentions of course), which wrote «Μηδείς ἀγεωμέτρητος εἰσίτω μοι τῇ θύρᾳ». Greetings from 🇬🇷
@Armitage01101
Ай бұрын
It's the same trap as Protestantism, bringing radically new interpretations while having to claim continuity, therefore also having to take extreme positions toward previous scripture or history because it evidences your discontinuity. But if the previous history or revelation was corrupt, what will speak for the new revelation?
@doctor1alex
Ай бұрын
This argument only applies to radical extremes of Protestantism. Not the historically reformed Protestantism, which is rooted and grounded in the word of God and the history of orthodox interpretation from the apostle Paul to Augustine to Anselm to the Westminster assembly.
@ThePerfectchris
Ай бұрын
yes it is so obvious. That's what i thought when i was reading about Religions history and was trying to choose which one will give it a go first. Islam was too dumb to even consider as a truth candidate for my spiritual journey.
@white6505
Ай бұрын
where are you at right now? the issue with spiritual journeys, is most people lack the inteligence and humility needed to genuinely search for the truth. the fact that you are here, shows you probably are truly commited. i really hope you find the roman catholic church, as i did, or at least orthodoxy, to be the truth, but never let go of this commitment to not lying to yourself, and to not give up searching the truth.
@ThePerfectchris
Ай бұрын
@@white6505 Thank for your kind comment. My journey started 20 years ago and ended 15 years ago finding Orthodoxy. You are too kind ani hate to say it to you but Papism is the "Islam" of Christianity if you get my drift :P My opinion . Sorry again you seem a nice person hope you find orthodoxy too . Cheers
@white6505
Ай бұрын
@@ThePerfectchris i appreciate your comment aswell. dont be apologetic for voicing your disagreement, as i feel this is part of the second commandment. i have my own issues with orthodoxy, specially considering catholic saints, the miracles and the apparitions of Our lady. "The errors of Russia" that she refers to, i dont think cannot include orthodoxy and its relation to eurasianism. KGB infiltration too, which is an issue comparable with our current troubles with the post conciliar church. But in any case, im glad you have found christ, and that you share the sacraments with us. Maybe im mistaken, who knows. God have mercy on us and show us truth beyond our miseries. let us remain steady and not be carried around like leaves in the wind, by the hurricane that is being conjured in the modern world by earthly utopias.
@ThePerfectchris
Ай бұрын
@@white6505 You are mistaken my friend and i pray our Good Lord softens your heart towards the truth. If i ever make it to Heaven i probably will be the last to enter but oh my God I think knowing that i am in the Church of Christ is just like kinda taking a little "taste" of what Heaven really is. And that's what Orthodoxy is to me. Hope one day the whole world will see.
@ouwat4life
Ай бұрын
Even allah tells momo that if he was in doubt to go ask the Jews and Christians so they can school him sura 10:94. I guess today's muslims are smarter than their own prophet
@saraoostrum300
23 күн бұрын
VERY WELL SAID
@fenderlespaul5781
13 күн бұрын
I ask a Muslim the exact same thing And he said You can proof the Qur'an is real by reading it May the lord have mercy on him
@unidentified5390
10 күн бұрын
Should of said, you can prove the Bible is real by reading it😂
@fenderlespaul5781
10 күн бұрын
Some of his arguments were "Well we Muslim don't believe in this" And after about the 4th time i just gave up He probably thinks he won the debate Even said he was going to convert me to islam
@unidentified5390
10 күн бұрын
@@fenderlespaul5781 if you want any arguments against Islam let me know i have a bunch, Islam is so easy to disprove
@fenderlespaul5781
10 күн бұрын
@@unidentified5390 I have some Like Mary being the sister of Aaron or the Jews worship Ezra as the son of God He couldn't disprove them He said that there was traditions that the Jews had.Thats why she was called sister of Aaron And i ask him what do they have in common He said that both of them are Jewish then i asked him why Aaron of all people Why the guy who built the golden idol And his response was "I don't believe that he did I believe he was a great prophet of allah" Or something similar And about the Ezra one He said there was a Jewish sect that did that But his only source was some Muslim historian
@fenderlespaul5781
10 күн бұрын
@@unidentified5390 but yeah you can give me some more It would be helpful
@user-jw6mo6vx6t
Ай бұрын
Where you going Jay? Huh huh huh Where ya going?
@sparkyy0007
Ай бұрын
If the bible is corrupted, Muslims have a much bigger problem. In 750, Muhammad took the books of the scriptures and swore to Allah these are the words of God, the very same scriptures of 400 AD, which are the same scriptures we have today. And Muhammad said Gods words cannot be corrupted.
@aiya5777
Ай бұрын
Many christians and jews tried to judge and proceed to accept Islam so?
@JayDyer
Ай бұрын
you dont even understand the argument
@aiya5777
Ай бұрын
@@JayDyer the bible claimed that God only prepared a Narrow path to heaven you know in real life, if the government only prepared a Narrow path for the general public, surely they would get criticized a lot, wouldn't they? they could be a corrupted government 🤷 just like the corrupted bible 🤷
@aiya5777
Ай бұрын
@@JayDyer you have to prove that the jews and christians who tried to judge, they didn't accept Islam and they will never accept Islam at all which is impossible since the first jew and first christian who tried to judge have long accepted islam already
@aiya5777
Ай бұрын
@@JayDyer Luke 23:34 then jesus said, "Father, forgive them, they know not what they do." jesus who's fully God, was mumbling to Himself, talking to Himself, talking to the father who's also fully God so God could save you from Himself. what a Convoluted way for God to forgive you christians
@aiya5777
Ай бұрын
@@JayDyer if God paid for christians' sins who's the bad guy, namely, the debt collector? the debt collector is Also God? umm... it's like a stand-up comedian who's laughing at his Own jokes it's like thanking the doctor who poisoned you from the first place, would you be grateful to such a doctor? who's the debt collector? and who poisoned the well?
@vittoriopiazza7120
Ай бұрын
Hello Jay, would you please create a video discussing Pope Zosimus and his potential papal error with Pelagius? I haven’t found a lot of info on it, and I figure that you would have some good material on it. God bless!
@JRR8888
8 күн бұрын
👏🏼👏🏼 Such a simple truth that billions of people refuse to accept.
@Yes-Man1337
4 күн бұрын
Gay Dyer
@Thicc-Macc
Ай бұрын
But Jay this is the 21st century. It’s not the 7th century. I’m also not a Jew or a Christian what are you even talking about ??
@blacob37
Ай бұрын
1. We have the same scriptures they did in the 7th century and before 2. Ok
@RAJ-zo8cu
Ай бұрын
you can't understand the use of a hypothetical to prove a point?
@Thicc-Macc
Ай бұрын
@@blacob37 so deeply autistic bro. It’s a joke
@5irus
Ай бұрын
I HAD BREAKFAST THIS MORNING!!! WHY ARE YOU AKSING ME THIS QUESTION????
@MyCorrectOpinion
Ай бұрын
If this is not a troll...
@littlefishbigmountain
Ай бұрын
Nah, nah, nah, man. Hear me out here, I know this sounds crazy, but we’re supposed to check what came BEFORE against IT!!
@Ldsemoboy
Ай бұрын
Man in car destroys islam!!!!!
@TimothyLittle13
25 күн бұрын
Jay, have you considered debating other unitarians (besides Muslims) such as Roger Perkins or Greg Stafford?
I curious what did the first Islamic scholars say? Did they think they followed the gospel?
@JayDyer
Ай бұрын
yes
@skooma103
Ай бұрын
@@JayDyer Give me examples of such scholars
@theelement6255
Ай бұрын
@@skooma103do a search?
@skooma103
Ай бұрын
@@theelement6255 I don't need to, because it's false claim.
@Weebgamer236
Ай бұрын
@@skooma103🤣🤣Someone is afraid to find the truth!
@Mr.Deko86
21 күн бұрын
One of their famous claims is that muhammad is referred to in the new testament as the "Comforter" which we know is the Holy Spirit. Their interpretations are incorrect and misleading. Once these blatant falsehoods are pointed out, they then use the "Bible has been corrupted" line. Funny how its only corrupted when Scripture disagrees with their beliefs.
@joshkeravuori1
Ай бұрын
“Give ‘em the ol’ tongue twist! Gooo tongue twist!”
@moldyapple1789
Ай бұрын
people have no problem throwing out established tradition if it suits them. ethnos trumps Truth in their view
@David_Trunk
Ай бұрын
Jay am I ok to attend a Rocor church?
@jaydyerlivestreamsabsurdities
Ай бұрын
yes
@mr.google2680
Ай бұрын
Who really thinks of islam.. Its a Complete lie and all it does is lie, but its a honest lie. The worst lies is the lies which has fragments of truth in it, and Islam totally debunks itself and proves Christianity. All glory to Allah (the real one).
@jason666king
Ай бұрын
Somebody suggested I debate you. I'm game if you are. Name the topic, time, place, and rules. Your choice. I'll gladly accept.
@cicerogsuphoesdown7723
25 күн бұрын
Why? Who are you lmao.
@jason666king
25 күн бұрын
@@cicerogsuphoesdown7723 not a bot, Mr. 7723. Don't hunt what you can't kill.
@davidlcherry9253
Ай бұрын
Can you do one on Jesus saying my God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me...love your teachings on the path to orthodoxy
@jacywilson
Ай бұрын
Bro,i don't care if you film while driving, just make sure you keep your eyes on the road/ hands on the wheel
@mitch0990
Ай бұрын
Pretty sure it was flipped mirror image, making him the passenger
@jacywilson
Ай бұрын
@@mitch0990 that would make more sense
@poppagroovy8794
Ай бұрын
Jay’s so cool he can drive with out watching the road…lol
@JunkyJeeMail
Ай бұрын
Great video! I can't help but be curious what kind of car you were driving, Jay?
@SoulWinnerforJesus
Ай бұрын
Good point.
@toddbeamer6131
23 күн бұрын
This is 'the islamic dilemma' in a nutshell, but look up that phrase and find the full argument on other videos. The quran destroys itself time and time again.
@memorialgardens1664
Ай бұрын
Jay 🧠🤝🇬🇧🙋♂️
@Arxyn_247
Ай бұрын
Not sure if this is a good thought to be had or an addition to have, but I would also like to add this thought too that even if the mindset of the Bible being corrupted on a textual level and has contractions, would still not make sense if this was carried over into the hypothetical argument that Jay presented. Since if the muslim person said to verify the Quran to the 7th century jew or Christian by checking their books, they would then see that Islam is false due to books like Deuteronomy and Galatians. The Muslim would then say "oh actually your text is corrupted and has contractions, oopsies sorry". This would ofc not make sense because we are told to check our book, but how can we verify if the source is not profitable to verify? This belief would be contrary to their Quran. Their position is built on "Trust Me Bro". Pretty sure Jay already thought about this but I figured I would add my thoughts.
@rogue3393
Ай бұрын
If the modern Islamic cope narrative is TRUE: the all-knowing "Allah" ALLOWED his prior revelations to become corrupted, then waited hundreds of years for the false teachings to spread, THEN he chose to reveal a new revelation that is 100% inconsistent with what came before. But somehow this new revelation is uncorrupted. What did the Christians at this time believe? We know because church history is completely catalogued. They believed in the Trinity from the BEGINNING. BEFORE the koran...
@Admin-nz8em
22 күн бұрын
those prior books were only meant for a specific people at a specific time which is why there isn't a divine need to keep them pure as say the Quran that is universal and has to have a divine protection.
@lil-soda-boi
Ай бұрын
Bro speedran it
@timothymacdonnell9079
Ай бұрын
The Muslims say that there are no contradictions in the Quran. They say that the world will become Muslim in 30 years and we should all convert.
@voldibayizitunda2178
Ай бұрын
Yep. Islam will spread till it enters every household and soon everyone will be Muslim. So essentially Islam will be the One World Religion. And the world becoming Muslim would not qualify as a contradiction. The contradiction would be the claim that the torah and the gospel have been corrupted which contradict the Quran as Allah's words cannot be corrupted.
@Shige2213
Ай бұрын
how can they even say the bible and torah is corrupt when it is supposedly allahs previous revelation and the original text is completely lost in history, but i thought allahs word cannot be corrupted or lost???? it makes allah a complete failure
@ivanipatov6559
Ай бұрын
please give me the verse numbers where I can find what Jay is talking about.
@orthodoxboomergrandma3561
Ай бұрын
Thank you Jay!
@trustmeimcool
Ай бұрын
Has a Muslim ever even attempted to respond to this in good faith?
@helman41
Ай бұрын
The only ones who do, admit the Bible is preserved according to the Quran.
@xNazgrel
Ай бұрын
Their scholars have not settled yet. Some found Jesus in the bible and some not because it is corrupted. They have not settle on how could bible be corrupted when it is not even structured as the supposed book that Allah send to Jesus and when this corruption even happened. Like what century. Some argue that bible corrupted in the council of Nicaea when there was no canonical bible before Nicaea. Some argue that their Ingil is the original gospel before it was corrupted by Christians but others argue that was a completely different book given to Jesus written in Hebrew or Aramaic and that Jesus was send only to Jews. And still more problems arise the more you see into it. For example why Christian should have preserve a book that was not to them to uphold. Why Christians should even exist if Jesus was muslim and why the muslim followers of Jesus did not protect their book etc. So they will never answer some simple questions like what is Ingil or in what century the Bible did get corrupted. 😌😌😌😌😌😌
@Jodogio
Ай бұрын
What are your thoughts on Kevin Carnahan?
@Bakamojo
Ай бұрын
“Oh people of the Quran. Check with your holy book to know I am the last prophet and my Holy Book is true and from God.” *Muslims check Quran. Says I should be rejected and stoned* “Uhh…. Oh people of the Quran. Truly your book is corrupted. Confirm what is true by what my new book says!”
@Admin-nz8em
22 күн бұрын
doesnt say that, the bible tells you that 1 prophet will be riding a donkey (jesus) and another will be riding a camel (muhammad)
@bouboumonkey
Ай бұрын
A diva defeeta
@nohud6233
Ай бұрын
😢
@Assyrianking507
Ай бұрын
Short but full
@ApologeticsHighlights-zl5pm
Ай бұрын
That is the most definitive evidence against Islam. A lot of Christians don't seem to grasp just how strong of an argument it is and need to do better at explaining why it refutes Islam when they bring it up. There is also Christian Prince's 2 minute debunking of Islam which I uploaded, which is also a strong but different style of refutation.
@trustmeimcool
Ай бұрын
Can you please make a video detailing the trinity logically and how to refute common muslim objections to it? I think it would be very helpful
@JayDyer
Ай бұрын
I have many
@nicholascannon6504
Ай бұрын
Eyes on the road bruh
@salrecinos6922
Ай бұрын
👍🏼
@spinky5809
Ай бұрын
Driving Mrs Dyer
@davidrustylouis6818
Ай бұрын
Smoked 'em Jay, nice.
@dynamic9016
Ай бұрын
Interesting
@muhammadhazmi8039
Ай бұрын
This argument only works for Christians who wholeheartedly believes in 3 pagan gods and not realizing that the whole trinity concept has been developed over time.
@doctor1alex
Ай бұрын
Genesis 1 demonstrates the doctrine of the Trinity. The Trinity is not three gods, so I don't know where you get that idea from.
@harrys2912
Ай бұрын
I know it sounds crazy but...
@crispknob
Ай бұрын
Jay go buy yourself some sunglasses
@swagmeisterFLEX
Ай бұрын
First #swaggie
@Ju.mender
Ай бұрын
No Disrespect but PAY ATTENTION TO THE ROAD
@jaydyerlivestreamsabsurdities
Ай бұрын
im riding
@bakhtiyarguseinov9402
Ай бұрын
Came here for a new argument, left disappointed, I’m not even gonna bother answering this overrated argument, it’s obvious this guy never even bothered to do his own research on this topic or to even reach out to someone with knowledge in the field…literally just the same thing over and over
@lolsing8836
Ай бұрын
Address the argument cupcake
@JayDyer
Ай бұрын
He has no reply: I bet he can’t even restate the hypothetical.
@Madokaexe
Ай бұрын
Answer it then, if he can make a video in 1min you can also answer in 1min
@DANtheMANofSIPA
Ай бұрын
How would you feel if you didn’t eat breakfast this morning
@AveChristusRex789
Ай бұрын
Have some shame
@awaysaltaher
Ай бұрын
I never found this argument to be too convincing against Islam. This assumes that Christianity had or has a universally accepted exegesis and that all Christian communities were in agreement with one another on texts as well as the interpretations thereof which has never been true, coincidentally the same is true more or less for the Talmud. Islam argues that the authenticity of the documents can be questioned because the corruption that happened by word of mouth then to the authors or those tasked with copying the once authentic text for one reason or another, seems pretty logical to me but then again I am a Muslim.
@lolsing2205
Ай бұрын
yes the problem is you are a muslim
@helman41
Ай бұрын
If you're a muslim, you'll never find any argument convincing no matter how strong, God could come down and literally tell you islam is false and you'd find a reason to think otherwise. You have to take the decision to examine islam objectively and whether it is internally coherent.
@awaysaltaher
Ай бұрын
@@helman41 indeed this is the duty of anyone seeking religious truth. Likewise, as much as our intellect is involved in matters of faith, so are our intuitions albeit often to a lesser degree in my experience.
@xNazgrel
Ай бұрын
When this "corruption" happened? What century? 😏😏😏😏😏😏😏
@awaysaltaher
Ай бұрын
@@xNazgrel immediately. It was unfolding during Jesus's life and his message, the actual Gospel which we call the Injeel, was muddled and bastardized following his death/ascension.
@ConspiracyBias
Ай бұрын
I’m so glad I’m a Buddhist.
@4337GLE
Ай бұрын
Is Buddhism true?
@DANtheMANofSIPA
Ай бұрын
Is Buddhism Nihilism?
@ConspiracyBias
Ай бұрын
If you meditate in earnest you’ll find out for yourself. The truth is self evident.
@GabrielaLtc
Ай бұрын
@@ConspiracyBias what truth?
@ConspiracyBias
Ай бұрын
@@GabrielaLtc sit down, meditate and you’ll find out. Or don’t.
@CoryMartz
Ай бұрын
None of it is real. None of it. Love one another, be a good human being even though sometimes its hard. No man made deity in the sky is needed to teach us that. The earth is not 6k years old. Stop trying to prove each others man made religions false. They are all false. Best regards.
@Orthosplode-nx8mz
Ай бұрын
What is good on atheism?
@CoryMartz
Ай бұрын
@@Orthosplode-nx8mz I mean no offense friend but im not sure what you mean specifically.
@user-td4lg4xf9k
Ай бұрын
Bruh... The earth is above than just 6,000 years old. there were civilizations before those 6,000 years.
@2Hesiod
Ай бұрын
Just as King Arthur was not a historical person, Muhammad was not either.
@MyCorrectOpinion
Ай бұрын
Muhammed was a historical person, just not the prophet that Muslims think he is.
@tbnrcreator.official
Ай бұрын
Quran 4:157 says the Jews claimed to have killed Jesus, while saying He is the messiah. ... No Jews believed Jesus was the Messiah
@JayDyer
Ай бұрын
The first thousands of converts were Jews - Acts 1-10.
@tbnrcreator.official
Ай бұрын
@@JayDyer My mistake, thanks for correcting me
@mathewfrancis4524
9 күн бұрын
I VALIDATE the HOLY BIBLE 👉that GOD is HOLY ONE and RIGHTEOUS ONE UNCHANGING ONE or IMMUTABLE ONE (PERFECT) GOD is SOVEREIGN ONE and 👉GOD DOESN'T NEED HUMAN HELP🕎✡️✝️ NOR HIS RETURNS VOID TO HIM GOD CLOSED in the Book of REVELATION Chpt 22:18 & 19
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