So glad you mentioned the placement issue with Bose! It's super important to get the reflecting part working right otherwise they just sound flat and dull. Lots of people either don't know this or don't have the proper space to set them up, hence the rep.
@johnvincent4048
9 ай бұрын
First "Audiophile" system I listened to was in 1981 and had Bose 901 speakers. I was impressed by how good that system sounded. That was 42 years ago and now they would sound like a clock radio compared to my tube amplified Klipsch La Scalas.
@SurnaturalM
4 ай бұрын
I think many, many stuff will sound bad compared to what you have.
@MrSwedjen
9 ай бұрын
Nice timing. I have the EPI 100s, which were my mains in the workspace/den for months. I just took them out of rotation for a recap which all the old vintage stuff needs at this point. FYI - An online store called " Human Speakers" specializes in all things EPI, Epicure and Genesis speakers.
@TheAgeOfAnalog
9 ай бұрын
Yep, I used Human to buy parts for a pair of Genesis 110 speakers I owned and then resold a few years ago. Good people.
@danielschoenherr2650
6 ай бұрын
Since 1990s here. Four Genesis Woofers four tweeters and a pair of EPI 100 "Phase Linear" (1980s version) woofers during the Pandemic.@@TheAgeOfAnalog
@Generic_Eric_1977
9 ай бұрын
Totally agree on the baby Advents. I have a pair and sold another a couple of months ago. They are extremely easy to refoam and sound surprisingly good for the their size. They hit lower than they should. Very shallow but wide cabinet.
@j.patrickmoore9137
9 ай бұрын
Back in the mid-70's I steered a friend to buy Baby Advents with a Harman Kardon 330, I think it was the B model. Fantastic combination.
@OHUQTU
2 ай бұрын
I am from Grand Rapids, Michigan, and met Ray Karnes (RIP) in his retail outlet when I auditioned his speakers. From his obituary: He was the owner of Karns Electronics for 50 years. When Raymond was young the Kansas City Star labeled him "Boy Hero" for saving his mother's life. He was an airplane pilot, radio pioneer, an inventor with two patents, he also recorded and made records
@billpeirce7
9 ай бұрын
I’ve owned a pair of Baby Advents since new. They have done a great job for years. I finally had to reform.
@MichaelArney
9 ай бұрын
Love the epi review. Highly underrated. I have a set of m50s . Small speaker with a ton of bass
@markvalery8632
9 ай бұрын
Thank you for explaining that love/hate relationship with Bose. The only Bose I have are small outdoor ones that serve a specific purpose (outside or testing a new unknown condition amp). Not knowing anything about the old Bose speakers, I could not understand the hatred, bordering on religious fundamentalism against another religion, against them.
@steddygolf6749
10 күн бұрын
I want to thank you for recommending the Bose 301s. I bought a pair of Series IIIs for my home office. Maybe it is just because I do have the perfect conditions but they sound awesome to me. Running a tiny Aiyama Amp and Schiit DAC through my MAC. I love the sound of these bookshelf speakers and at $200 they were a steal.
@skylabsaudio
10 күн бұрын
Great to hear!
@daniannaci3258
9 ай бұрын
Identical to the EPI 100’s of the early 70’s were the EPI 90’s. Same cabinet and drivers except the 90’s had a walnut-flavored vinyl wrap and no tweeter level control. The secret to the EPIs was the fact that the crossover was just one capacitor on the tweeter, the woofer ran full range. Ed Burhoe, the designer, stated that the woofer was designed with a voice coil that had the desired inductance and served as a low pass for the woofer. My pair of 90’s I bought in 1973 when I was in high school was $180/ pair, while the 100s were $200/pair (not $99). My stereo was the envy of my dorm floor, also being that I was using a Dynaco PAS-3X tube preamp ($50 with Telefunken tubes)and Stereo 70 tube power amp ($70 - a dollar a watt!) with a Thorens TD121 turntable ($20 from a radio station converting to tape cartridges), an Empire 980 arm ($40) and a Grado FTE ($20) cartridge. I was into vintage before it was a thing 😆! At a time when most all hi-fi was made in Japan, everything I had was USA manufactured, except the Thorens which was Swiss. BTW, the EPI 100’s were rated #1 in a test of loudspeakers appearing in Consumer Reports, which was highly influential at the time.
@davidstevens7809
7 ай бұрын
Winslow burhoe
@RickBranson
9 ай бұрын
I just purchased a set of Baby Advent ll from Skylabs have them hooked up to my Fisher Tube Amp they sound incredible.
@michaelscott9504
9 ай бұрын
Thanks for the very cool video's. I look forward to watching each Sunday morning. I'm definitely a vintage stereo fanatic from the 70s and 80s So thanks again you make my Sunday!!
@jeffsloane8628
9 ай бұрын
The classic Advent Speakers sounded great. I'm 46 now and can still remember the first time I heard the floor standing version. Clean and smooth sounding.
@robmurray3914
9 ай бұрын
Original sansui logo was cooler I agree, never seen the epi logo but I agree there too !
@traceysheneman8652
9 ай бұрын
I live in Grand Rapids, Michigan. I used to live a few blocks from the Karns showroom on Fulton Street. As a teenager in the late 1970s hearing the Karns compared to other brands on display was my first exposure to "hi-fi" audio. I was hooked on audio as a hobby ever since. I never owned a pair of Karns, though.
@bearded_wolverine3503
6 ай бұрын
I'm from grand rapids!!! Hey there fellow Michigander
@patrickguice
9 ай бұрын
Thanks for all you do for us vintage audiophiles. I’ll definitely be at next Sundays live stream.
@WalterDavidRiffmon
12 күн бұрын
If I need to relax, I watch one of your videos. Thanks for your presentations and information! I own Klipsch KG 1.2 bookshelves with a matching passive sub, all in mint condition. I picked this set up from a Craig’s List sale. The wood veneer is all in perfect shape. This line of Klipsch has a different sound than the usual horn loaded models. The high end is not as hot…less sizzle! I never see these in shops. Ebay, yes. Shops, no. This line of Klisch has large floor standing speakers too. Did this line of Klipsch ever come through your store?
@Joe-mz6dc
9 ай бұрын
Hey I think it's great you're doing the live stream on sunday. Don't worry. Even if some of us miss it we just watch the replay anyway man. Extremely grateful for all your content.
@Ekrub54
5 ай бұрын
In the mid 80s I was putting together my first, "decent" stereo. I got a Technics receiver and was debating between the Baby Advent IIs and the Bose 301s. The price was the same ($179 if memory serves) and I thought they sounded about the same. The salesman said the Advents would be better with my receiver since they were easier to drive. I went with his recommendation and was quite happy with the results.
@brooklynknightss
Ай бұрын
I bought my bose 301 iii brand new in 1993 and im still jaming with them!! I still love them! Still running my def tech bp20s through my yamaha aventage 3080 sounds great!!!
@thomashewson
9 күн бұрын
I just got a pair of Bose 301 series II for free of free cycle. I couldn't be happier!
@edjackson4389
9 ай бұрын
Baby Advent II are great!! They sound so beautiful and will fit anywhere
@Mike.Macmyazka
9 ай бұрын
Forgot to mention. I’ll try to be with you for the live but I work weekends overnight (6pm-6am) so I’ll be at work. If it’s not busy I can watch.
@mikecampbell5856
9 ай бұрын
I love your videos and I love vintage audio. I just gave my nephew my beloved DCM Time Window 1As. I had them from 1984 til 2018. There is a model that will trigger a few people. I enjoyed them for 34 years and I could have sold them, but I wanted to keep them in the family. When my ship was in Japan in 1978 I bought a pair of Pioneer CS 722s. Supposedly they were never sold in the USA. I loved those too.
@haqitman
9 ай бұрын
I've never heard DCM Time Windows, but what a great name!
@mikecampbell5856
9 ай бұрын
@@haqitman If you look them up you can see why they had incredible imaging!
@VirtualGuth
7 ай бұрын
I had just landed my first job out of college back in 1986. With the new job came a chance to upgrade my hifi gear. When shopping for speakers within my budget, my top two choices were the DCM Time Windows and the Fried A/3. I wound up choosing the Frieds, but remember being somewhat disappointed that they looked so plain compared to the DCMs. Countless other speakers have come and gone since then, but I still have the Frieds and still enjoy listening to them. Perhaps I would still have the DCMs had I bought them instead.
@kevin6385
4 ай бұрын
In the 80s I had 301s with an HK 385i, they sounded great together
@6SecondDelay
5 ай бұрын
The EPI 100s you show in the video, with the tweeters mounted on masonite, are the original version. Great sound, but with pretty narrowly focused high frequencies. Around 1980, EPI replaced this with the plastic domed, ferro-fluid Air Spring tweeter. Easily recognizable, they're black plastic with two concentric gold rings and a gold EPI logo. Much wider high frequency dispersion, making them sound great from just about anywhere in the room. Still enjoying mine after 44 years!
@christopherharris3229
4 ай бұрын
I have a pair of EPI 180s which have 2 of the woofer/ gold ring tweeter modules in each cabinet. Just recapped and refoamed them and they sound absolutely wonderful! EPI/Epicure made some really good speakers back then.
@VirtualGuth
7 ай бұрын
Regardless of how their speakers sound, my guess is that many people are down on them because Bose has always budgeted highly for the marketing their products (money that I suppose could have otherwise gone into designing and building better speakers). Like it or not, this approach has obviously worked out well for them.
@robblackwell1618
9 ай бұрын
EPI.. Yes..Just had mine re foamed and new caps.. And yes my cabinets could use some refinishing..But sound 👍
@user-ht3qf9pf1l
12 күн бұрын
I have a pair of Bose 301 Series V speakers that I picked up on facebook market place. I put a whole system (not exactly vintage) together from flea markets, thrift stores and facebook for $300 that includes a Victrola turntable, Onkyo reciever and Onkyo CD player and finished off with the Bose speakers. In a 12 x 13 foot office/bedroom the set-up is more than adequate.
@user-sx4qj7vs2u
9 ай бұрын
I have 2 sets of the Advents--spent a total of $25 for them. Add $20 for a refoam kit, and total invested for 4 speakers is $45. Not a bad deal!
@sergioleone4215
9 ай бұрын
My first pair of speakers were the Bose 301's way back in 1974. A couple of years later I bought a pair of Bose 501's. Fast forward another 20 years or so and I finally was able to afford a pair of Bose 901's. Got them home and excitedly hooked them up to my electronics. To say I was disappointed was an understatement. I messed with them and the Bose equalizer for a few days and realized nothing I did would make them sound good so I returned them. I still have the 301's that are used as surrounds, and the 501's are still rocking in my bedroom and I think they sound great.
@vincecarnevale4406
6 ай бұрын
The KLH 17's were a good performer with their long throw woofer ❤
@markmcminn5100
9 ай бұрын
I agree about old logos ......and epi speakers.
@JAFO.
2 ай бұрын
well that teaches me that from now on I'll have to watch the entire video before I comment, or was I surprised when you pulled out those Karns! friend of mine I worked with had a pair and I went over one day, listened to them and like you said, the highs just weren't gettin' it on - so I had this idea to move the Tweeter to the front where the port was, and move the port to the back where the Tweeter is, and he had enough scrap shelving laying around that we were able to make it happen and oh yeah made all the difference in the world he was like a kid in a candy store, just very amazed that he now liked them so much.
@drsbranch-wn2vx
9 ай бұрын
KARNS Evil No.9???? Definitely will be there next Sunday for the Livestream.
@AudiophileStooge
9 ай бұрын
Thanks for the EPI. I have two models myself and I enjoy them. I also really dig my two sets of Ohm speakers (again, different models). both the EPI and Ohms have foam surround rot so repair kits are a must for these.
@Ed-so8rg
3 ай бұрын
I was a Bose kinda hater till I got a pair of Model 21 3 way speakers At a pawn shop For cheap change and I have them playing on my computer They sound good to me ! !
@cgreenfield6655
9 ай бұрын
Woah, those Sawafujis are cool!!
@larrysmith5413
9 ай бұрын
Another fun video. Love the trigger warning. I think I’ve mentioned that a few people have known combined the 301 with the Big Advents. Its a killer combination and the bigger speakers solve the base issue.
@aaronjones394
6 ай бұрын
I am not a Bose fan, but I just got a free set of Bose 501 (1979) speakers, and they are supposed to sit up against the wall, and they are playing through a HK 430 Twin receiver, and they sound surprising good.
@poppahomage7492
5 ай бұрын
They should, top of the line
@scottdavis0801
8 ай бұрын
The Epicure M100s were the 1st vintage speaker that I refoamed and recapped/real easy. I loved them then and today! Now I'm looking at a pair of Harbeth 30.2 😂😂
@daniannaci3258
8 ай бұрын
Harbeth 30.2. Ooo. Great choice!
@petenamlook18
9 ай бұрын
I'm on the lookout for some vintage KLHs.
@drsbranch-wn2vx
9 ай бұрын
I grabbed a pair of KLH model 5s some years back, refinished the cabinets, and have been using them non-stop since then.
@jamesbarry6248
9 ай бұрын
i had the EPI TE100 , and loved them.
@prestomattwine
9 ай бұрын
Just bought mint Bose 601 series 3 for $500 and have them paired with my Pioneer 850 receiver, sounds awesome!
@bazza2825
Ай бұрын
If you find a pair of Australian made Krix Equinox book shelf speakers you won't be disappointed, Krix have been making speakers for 50yrs. mine are 24yrs old purchased these in a second hand shop for $120 from memory, new models today $1000-$1300.
@naturalverities
9 ай бұрын
I occasionally buy thrift store or Craigslist speakers not to use as-is but because I want to salvage or repurpose either the cabinets or the drivers for DIY projects. I currently have a pair of Wharfedale W70 cabs in lovely mid century modern blonde birch waiting for the right salvaged drivers to come along. For those inclined to educate themselves about speaker design this approach can result in classy speakers with spectacular sound on the cheap---not taking into account one's labor, of course. For those not so inclined, this will be a long-odds roll of the dice.
@wwz1011
9 ай бұрын
Picked up Baby Advents at a garage sale for $5. Needed fresh surrounds. I ended up replacing surrounds and donating them to Habitat 4 Humanity. Also had a set of Bose 301s. Never impressed with them, so I sold them. I've been on a vintage KLH kick lately. Got a set of Model 23s in the garage. Had a set of Model Six's. Sold those. Down to just three sets of speakers right now.
@repro7780
9 ай бұрын
I had a pair of Bose 601's, not sure of the series, but they sounded awesome! Very good bottom end. Ported on the rear. I currently have a pair of Clements 800SI (Spatial Image) speakers, Made in Canada, that are quite rare to see these days. They also sound awesome, with a great bottom end as well. Rear ported. These aren't bookshelf speakers, just not that common to find, like the last section of this video.
@onemat2000
4 күн бұрын
My first Stereo... A pair of EPI 100, Marantz 1060, and an AR XA turntable with SP 25 cartridge. The turntable was $66.00! I blew up the EPIs several times 😅
@map4000
9 ай бұрын
Really cool and nice with the "newer" info graphics with the bullet points with your voice over going over the details 🙏Very helpful good Sir, for me as a newbie 🙏🥁
@edpena4064
Ай бұрын
I found a pair of MK SB 1 for $25 at a garage sale physically they look great they sound awesome!! 🏆👍🎵🎶
@edwardgonczy3170
9 ай бұрын
A great video. Some thoughts. A speaker you may have overlooked is the Harmon Kardon HK20. They were a very simple two way with I believe a 6" woofer with an accordion surround that will probably last an eternity. I believe they were crossed over to a 2 1/2" tweeter so real highs were next to impossible. They were a very "smooth" sounding speaker with no real big flaws. Here's my problem. The speaker connections in the back were not only the simple screw head type, but they were impossibly close together. I mean literally right next to each other so not shorting them out was a task of no easy proportions. Further thoughts on the EPI 100 (your not liking the change in logo not withstanding). The early models, like AR speakers, glued the grills in place so they are next to impossible to remove if you need to get inside the speaker to service them. Later models used pins so much easier to service but generally only find this iteration vinyl clad and didn't seem quite as solid as the early iteration. Sometimes I am dismayed when some "audiophile" channels list their 10 most significant speakers of all time, seem to be fixated on the mid 80's and beyond so their choices are the logical picks: Spendor, Spica, Thiel, Vandersteen, etc. They always seem to neglect the speakers that, at least in my mind, changed the world of hi-fi: KLH, AR, Advent, EPI. Maybe someday go through Advent and how it went from the original to the mid-seventies' iterations to the "New" Advent to the Advent 1, etc.
@jimnevill4344
9 ай бұрын
How funny - I’m watching this in my bedroom, where I have a pair of Advent Graduates and Bose 301 S2’s hooked up to my Pioneer SX-737!
@boatdetective
7 ай бұрын
I was in high school and college during the golden age and live just north of Boston. My school was just outside of Cambridge, so I was at the heart of the Boston stereo scene. I had EPIs in high school and they had a reputation as a really solid choice for indigent stereophiles. I upgraded to ADS 300s when the bookshelf craze started around 1980.
@adaboy4z
9 ай бұрын
I've picked up so many speakers at good will. Cleaned them up and performed a refoam. Baby Advent, Optimus Pro Lx5, Infinity RS 325 and Infinity SL40. Yep Bose definitely need to be placed correctly or they will sound horrible.
@bluesfish55m51
7 ай бұрын
My 1st exposure to “HIFI” was when a buddy of mine bought a pair of 301s in 1978. He hung them from the ceiling of his apartment and they sounded pretty good. Especially after hitting the Stanley Steamer😮. Fast forward a few years and I was shopping my first quality speaker purchase. Bose AM-5 had just come out and, given my space was limited they were an interesting option. The problem, other than the lack of real presence, they were made of cheap materials and parts but selling for $1200! I went with a pair of SDA-2Bs that I still have today. Bose uses cheap low impedance drivers and acoustic trickery. They may image well when set up properly but lack detail, dynamics and clarity for my money. Also had a pair of EPI’s in my Karman Ghia in those days with that same diy looking tweeter, they were amazing!
@bunk-bn9eo
5 ай бұрын
The Bose 301s SII are great little speakers. One thing I've noticed about Bose - if you put some serious wattage to them - they sound pretty good. I've driven 301s with 125 watts each and they eat it up and sound better than you'd expect.
@AmirAmir-ue6ld
9 ай бұрын
Good morning Kevin, same as always I enjoyed your video. I am persuaded to leave the first comment on this video and my first comment ever for anybody. I had experience with all these speakers in my life, except Karns and Dynawave. I wish I was living in your area to visit your store. Keep up good videos and wish you the best. .....Kevin
@dangranger3447
6 ай бұрын
I've got a set of Bose 301's and they rock. Placed properly on the wall at a measured height and distance from the corner they produce a lot of bass and fill the room.
@brunohebert1351
9 ай бұрын
I picked up a pair of Mini Advent II a while ago for $5... Of course they need to be refoamed and I got the kit for about $28. I think it will be a good way to learn how to refoam. Based on the instructions, it seems pretty straightforward, maybe that will be a good project during the Thanksgiving break. The Sawafuji look very interesting. Idea for a future video: making a list of unknown brands/speakers to keep an eye out for (if it hasn't being done yet, I'm not sure) I'll try to be there for the live, no promises though but I set an alarm for it. Cheers and Happy Thanksgiving to you and your family
@Mike.Macmyazka
9 ай бұрын
That’s what I’d like to do myself. I have been picking up older/cheaper audio equipment to try out and am looking for stuff I can try repairing too. I’d like to have a little side business in Rochester MN of speaker repair and possible electronics too. Need more diagnostic tools for that though. With Des Moines and the Twin Cities being as far as they are, there’s nothing local for that stuff.
@Mike.Macmyazka
9 ай бұрын
I always love the Bose debate. Maybe it’s just me but as a kid in middle school and high school band, they had Bose in the music room and they sounded very good. I really enjoyed listening to them. Placement definitely is key for them. They’re nowhere near the best thing ever, but they really aren’t all that bad. Even if it’s just because your mind is being tricked to think they sound good. With that said, if I had a good room to be able to place them and make them work, I would have a set. I wanted to get some 301 Series 3 or maybe 4 for the basement for my wife to listen to music since she WFH. She isn’t an audiophile so she would be fine with them. There are worse speakers out there.
@tbrown6559
9 ай бұрын
I have a series 3 in our workout room basement. They are fine.
@michaelquattro9128
4 ай бұрын
I really have been enjoying your videos. Thdsy take me back to when I was a top stereo salesman working for Tech HiFi in Prov., RI from 1975-1979. Yes, during the golden years of stereo ekctronics. Just an FYI, the 'house' systems from Tech were mostly: Philips TT + Nikko rec + Ohm E speakers. The most competitive system for us to beat was the Consumer Reports favorite of 1975 - Dual TT + Pioneer Sx650 + EPI 100 speakers. The EPI system was very low margin and favored by stiudents and discount shoppers bringing ads in from the New York Times electronics stores. The only problemn with the EPIs was that they weren't very efficient, but suitable for a dorm room. The comments about the Bose speakers are spot on because the EQ box confused so many buyers. My personal system ended up being a Thorens TD-125 with Black Widow tone arm and MicroAcoustics 2022e + SAE pre-amp + 2 Crown 150s running in mono + Ohm F speakers. Pretty sweet and the Crown amps were stable into the OHM F 4 ohm loads.
@stevenneese2823
7 ай бұрын
Sansui LM-330. Mid 70's, 2 way design, 10" driver, and from firing port. They also horn loaded the back of the tweeter pointing sideways to help cancel the opposite speakers sound waves to get a more pure stereo image. Lot of good reviews out there. I somehow ended up with 2 pairs. Also, my favorite pair are the Onkyo model 160's. Not much out there on them, but I love them. The tweeter recently blew so if anyone knows anyone that's selling some I will buy immediately.
@francescotenti193
9 ай бұрын
Baby Advents belong right there, nice speakers for close to nothing. I have a pair bought new in the early 90's and sound good, I re-foamed them and upgraded the crossover, real good sound and real wood! I came across a pair of Sony SS-H3500 in a thrift shop for $14.00, a 3 ways little speaker but what a sound! After a deep cleaning, they look like new. They complement a Technics SA 104 bought in the same place for $10.00. And so, a TV in a small room has now decent sound.
@VirtualGuth
7 ай бұрын
This is a fun list. I bought a set of Bose 301 speakers (the original version) for cheap from a pawn shop back in 1981 and used them until I graduated from college. Back then "critical listening" wasn't really a thing for me and the little 301s matched up well with the small 70's Technics amp that I had at the time so they worked out well for me. I was always able to place them so that both tweeters had equidistant space to a reflecting surface. These days I generally tend to be more impressed with acoustic suspension designs when it comes to vintage speakers so I appreciate choices like the EPI 100 and baby Advents being on this list. Since you asked, I actually much prefer the later EPI logo over the original version.
@Willdo7474
9 ай бұрын
The EPI 100s have a bunch of different versions. Also look at the Epicure Model 10 which are the same thing basically. I've refoamed a set of each and really like them
@bryandickerson5365
9 ай бұрын
Hope I get a chance to hear all of these at some point. I am, however, surprised that the Polk Audio Monitor 4 didn’t make the list. A pair of those were my main speakers for years and I was darn happy with ‘em.
@skylabsaudio
9 ай бұрын
Part 3?
@Mike.Macmyazka
9 ай бұрын
I just had a pair of Monitor 4’s delivered earlier in the week. I haven’t had a chance to listen to them yet. They were a little more than I wanted to spend (just under $70 shipped) but they appear to be in very good condition.
@bryandickerson5365
9 ай бұрын
@@skylabsaudio I think it was 1983 and a good friend made me meet him the best stereo store in Fairbanks, Ak. Once there he pointed to the little Monitor 4s and said I had to hear them. The salesman cranked ‘em up and I was absolutely blown away…but then realized the mistake. “No, not the big speakers”, I said, “I want to hear the little Polks on top”. The salesman said - “those ARE the little Polks on top”. And he was right! The best $200 I ever spent!
@ScottGrammer
9 ай бұрын
Love the "trigger warning" before the mention of Bose. The Bose 301 is probably the best $3 speaker you can find! So if all you have is $3 and you need a pair of bookshelf speakers, pick up a pair of 301's at a yard sale by all means. And of course, if you have at least 100 watts per channel, and don't mind spending a few hundred to have them refoamed and have the equalizer rebuilt or replaced, a pair of 901's makes a great $20 speaker system! They're flat +/- 12 dB from 60-8,000 Hz! Who could ask for more?
@paulgood2218
9 ай бұрын
Flat +/- 12db 😂 love it . I mean who needs music to sound like the artist wanted 😂.
@UltraMEGAMAGARandy
9 ай бұрын
You probably haven't heard either one.
@paulgood2218
9 ай бұрын
@@UltraMEGAMAGARandy I have heard both many of times and did not care for the 901 except in a basement pub once filled the room with sound yes . But no accurate sound stage just lots of sound which was what was needed in the open area with lots people. There just so room dependant and hard to have a room to set up right 9 out of 10 times there just used wrong and sound bad . A good speaker should not be so hard to use
@ScottGrammer
9 ай бұрын
@@UltraMEGAMAGARandy That would be strange, considering I have been servicing audio gear since 1977, and still do. I worked for years in a Bose authorized repair center as well.
@Humandriver5280
9 ай бұрын
Placement with the 901s looks like it could be a real pain.
@karaDee2363
9 ай бұрын
Oddly enough, I never heard anything bad about the Bose brand . Living in Massachusetts my entire life, I've been in many homes that had Bose speakers and sounded fantastic. My only gripe about them was they were pricey. There were so many speakers that were made locally throughout the United States, especially during the 1980s that I think it would be impossible to cover them all
@brunohebert1351
9 ай бұрын
Also the Trigger Warning segment was excellent... funny the moment I saw trigger warning I knew you were going to say Bose hehe. Nicely done.
@toddclarke1580
9 ай бұрын
I owned the Epi M1000s. Incredible Speakers.
@sirsuse
9 ай бұрын
HAPPY THANKSGIVING to you and and family Kevin.
@skylabsaudio
9 ай бұрын
Same to you!
@danab7472
9 ай бұрын
Early last year I saw a vintage pair of speakers on FB for $100. I had never followed vintage speakers too much so I had no idea what they were (other than recognising the brand name from the drivers that were in my Ampeg amps back in the day). They looked cool so I went and grabbed them. Turns out they're a pair of Celestion Ditton 551 and after replacing the tweeters, they're easily the best speakers I have ever had. Those soft dome midrange drivers are so great to my ears. So much of what makes Klipsch special but without the honk. Even my wife loves them and forbids me from ever replacing them. I'll try to be on for the livestream, but I'm in Australia and might have work stuff going on that I have to give my full attention to.
@johnnytoobad7785
9 ай бұрын
Although I'm not in the market for speakers..I love the Sunday AM videos. I remember knowing quite a few folks in the 80's who owned the "Baby Advents". Back then I owned the original BOSE 901's !
@travisrocheleau5840
9 ай бұрын
🇺🇸 I'll be at 11/26/2023 Live Stream for sure. Thank you for what you do. 🇺🇦
@olddavid4
3 ай бұрын
Rectilinear III. Heavy and old but solid and airy. Mine are in the garage and kick. $80
@stlydan
6 ай бұрын
Have had the same pair of BOSE 601Direct Array Series II for 41 years. Bought them new in 1983, $500 a piece. Have had the woofers repaired twice, love'm...
@chuckgilly
5 ай бұрын
Years ago I bought some of them Sawafuji mid-range drivers from my good friend. Now I know where they came from.
@archangele1
6 ай бұрын
I have a pair of Bose 301's I bought new in the mid 80's and they have always sounded great to me. Placement is important with these speakers because the whole idea behind Bose designs is how the sound from them reflects off the walls and ceiling in a room. Also, the type of amplifier is important as well. I use mine with an HH Scott 299C amplifier and the amp and speakers work really well together. Are they the best sounding speakers I have? Probably not . But, when set up correctly they do make music come alive with a very nice depth to the sound stage.
@joanfrellburg4901
9 ай бұрын
The Genesis 1's which is an earlier version of the EPI sound good too. I just refoamed a pair, and they behave much like the EPIs the way you described.
@skylabsaudio
9 ай бұрын
Only bummer is no one makes the green foam!
@joanfrellburg4901
9 ай бұрын
@@skylabsaudio I thought ahead for a change and realized since I'm putting the grilles back on to hide the ugly but decent tweeters, nobody will know I went with black instead of green. These still smell like grandmas basement no matter what I do !
@Jahwobbly
9 ай бұрын
In last year I bought a bunch of used bookshelfs in KC area at $200-$250, except the Martin Logan and Bostons at $100. Every single one is excellent in my home-office w/o a sub. With a sub, they are as good as my floor-standing ones. my preference in order: 1 Martin Logan, surprising definition, presence for so small a speaker. Surprising bass for size, but outta-sight with a sub. Think Psyc Furrs, Nirvana Unplugged, Brubeck, Throbbing Gristle, X 2. AR. Everything AR is known for. Warmer to me maybe, but crystal clear definitions up and down in instruments and vocals. Great at Minor Threat, Grimes, Miles Davis or Glenn Gould. 3. JBL. As good as AR, but it sounds just a tiny bit neutral (which is probably just a personal thing). Link Wray, opera, hendrix. Best with tube amp, Marantz 2220. 4. Boston Acoustics, Surprising lows, acoustic and Jangly guitars sound great on this one. Not as high definition in mids. Sounds great thru ST-70 or neutral Vintage 80s Dennon 5. Advent, agree with your review completely. Excellent. Guitars! Guitars! Guitars! A little on neutral/clinical side. Richard Thompson, Nirvana Unplugged, Kurt Vile, Buddy Holly, Rickenbackers, Telecasters and Stratocasters. My number 5 could very easily be someone else's number 1. Again all are incredible value. Reply with comment for model names. I gave the MLs to my favorite 13-yo and want the ARs for myself, but will sell others for cost in Lawrence/KC area. PM me.
@martinhiggs7027
7 ай бұрын
Absolutely great site my friend ! I was a hi-end salesman through the 70's ! unfortunately R base line was based on price ! so Advent 4-B's at around $260.00 a pair the owner said to me one Saturday Realistic/Advent who cares they all sound the same ????? Bose was the push- 501 and 901's ! R sound room was long and not to BOSE spec's ! there speakers sounded like SHIT and were without a 100% square room ! one Saturday I brought in my Advent 4-B's ! I tricked my boss ! at closing time he dropped the BOSE line ! I have experienced 901's with huge power in a BOSE sound room ABSOLUTELY FREAKING INCREDIBLE !
@michaelduffee6402
5 ай бұрын
I just picked up a pair of the Polk 3 way bookshelf speakers that are on the shelf over your right shoulder from a local seller. I am enjoying getting to know those speakers.
@phatsmitty
4 ай бұрын
"I don;t care if they sound terrible, I've got to go home and try those" (Sawa Fuji) 😆 Completely understand, I would too
@jukingeo
6 ай бұрын
In this installment of Vintage Bookshelf speakers, I actually haven't heard of the latter three. In contrast, the first two brands are BIG! Of course, Bose is very well known and just like you say, some people like them, most (in my area) don't. I do remember the series II at the local PC Richard or (blast from the past warning) Nobody Beats The Wiz store. Of course the flagship 901's they had nicely positioned and even with the EQ on them, it fit that old saying, "No Highs', No Lows, It's Bose." I am sorry, but when it comes to those 901's, that is definitely the case. The midrange however was in your face. They had others in the lineup such as a 101, which was a Minimus 7 style speaker. Then there was the 201 and this had only one rear facing tweeter and the woofer was in the front, or I thing it might have been placed the wrong way around. At any rate, I never heard these as it was never hooked up. The 301's were interesting, but again, I wasn't impressed with the bass performance on these. However, it could have been that they weren't positioned right. There was a floor standing 601 as well and that I never heard either. I think I would like to give the 301's another shot. It might be a good speaker for the game room given that it really isn't a central imaging speaker. Now, don't get me wrong, there are some things that Bose makes that I really like and the big one here is the Wave Radio. I like this thing so much, I have two of them! The other speaker company, Advent, is one I hold in higher regard than Bose. I heard some of the larger speakers back in the day and it was this speaker that had introduced me to Henry Kloss. In fact, I have a Cambridge Audio sound system on my computer, which IS a Henry Kloss design. However, it is a small system and I want to upgrade it to something larger as I want to hook a turntable up to my computer to digitize some records, but since I am by my computer a good portion of the day, I also want to use my desk area as my hi-fi listening area, especially since the turntable will be there. I was looking, at first at some speakers from Elac and Sony, but they have rear ports on them and I have to put the speakers on an 8 inch deep shelf as close to the wall as possible. Not many speakers are that shallow. Looking at the first part of this, I was reminded of the Realistic Minimus 7, but I think that might only be a minor upgrade. I do want something bigger. In this part, we start off with the Baby Advent. Here this speaker is only 6" deep and has a 6.5 inch woofer. They would fit perfectly on the 8" shelf. They are acoustic suspension, so no rear port to deal with! So I am thinking these might be the way to go. One thing I am a bit surprised though, how come KLH didn't make the cut? Another decent Henry Kloss design.
@robertkelly1070
9 ай бұрын
I had 301s for 35 years. In my last move, they disappeared. I still miss them.
@rustusandroid
4 ай бұрын
Bose 301 series 2 are really nice speakers.
@stevengagnon4777
8 ай бұрын
I've got a set of Bose 301seris II that I recently started using that were givto me a few years ago. They do sound decent and that direct reflecting thing is working with my oak/plywood lined cinder block basement walls. Once you get them set up right the benefit is a wide sound stage that is less dependent upon the listener's spot in the room. I also had a pair of Advent orange fried egg tweeters doing nothing. So now the front firing tweeters in the 301s are those Advents. A new crossover and it's a much better speaker system.
@stevesamplingmusic
6 ай бұрын
Agree with the Sansui logo, but the newer EPI logo is much better than the old.
@jeffreymoorbeck2752
9 ай бұрын
Another great video. Those Sawafuji speakers are really cool! I will try to make the 'Live' stream next Sunday.
@passacaglia28
3 ай бұрын
I enjoy your channel so much! I have learned so much about vintage audio because of you. Keep cranking out the vids.
@skylabsaudio
3 ай бұрын
Thanks! Will do!
@jerrytaylor8662
8 ай бұрын
I have Advent Baby 2, EPI 100, and Boes AM 5s! Well close .. lol. I love them all... got maybe 5 pair of various Klipsch too... and several others. Changing speakers is great fun!
@BullittJon
9 ай бұрын
I knew Kevin was going to say "Bose" when he said, "I'm going to say a brand name that makes everybody cringe. . ." LOL I have a pair of Series II and Series V. Enjoy them both.
@rudyponzio5871
7 ай бұрын
Great stuff Thank you ! I have to say. Even cost reachable Joe the Plumber vintage speakers? You can't touch them today. I can't substitute some great old speakers I own w new ones. I tried and put my vintage speakers back in the mix. I have two pair of front's high and low. Dual LS 262EB and JBL HLS 610's. The biggest difference no one talks about is in the construction of the cabinets. Both sets are constructed of 100% 4 sides premium instrument quality acoustic plywood. Sound meters and methods of measurements do not reveal these quality difference's. Their not looked for in contemporary speaker designs. Audio processing is more or less constantly on and brought downwards then synthesized back up to acceptable perceptual nuance replication quality over digital source and carrier. Thank you. A concert woodwind player would tell you about the difference replicated in the totality of their breaths echos and pre compressed expression. To the ears that have been bathed in analog resonance. And audio groupies of every nature. Some converted compositions you can't listen to any other way but analog. I think of how many ears are already around that have never tasted this. At the end of the day both at top quality equipment outfitted. Are great.. STILL Do I through all this out the window or continue to collect and spin bath in vinyl? If it's inconvenient to manually select and play the music you choose to take the moments to live under. You could be missing a unique thrill found only that way. If music is a thing for you that is... Be fortunate 🍀
@joelafives
7 ай бұрын
Had a pair of EPI 100's in the mid 70's- they were rated #1 in Consumer Reports for accuracy.
@ikejennings1154
9 ай бұрын
Nice video, Kevin!! Your that guy, that ,vintage or modern day audio enthusiasts, say! That guy is cool!! Thanx again..
@mopartony7953
Ай бұрын
No Polk SDA? The best value, under appreciated vintage speaker series! And probably the most hyped (overrated at the time) late 80’s speaker. The monsters are amazing. Audiophiles spit on them. Vintage hi-fi shops laugh at me when I ask about. A Merlot of the speaker world. But, Impressive how they can fill a room. Made for 70’s Pink Floyd. Bring tons of watts as they are power-hungry. Pair it with a big Yamaha CR receiver or 80’s Yamaha integrated amp. Lots were built. Some later badly modded. Could not give them away for many years. Skylab should do a video about.
@colinvannbohemen11
4 ай бұрын
Great review of some classic bookshelf speakers! another terrific classic is the Goodmans Achromat 250 bookshelf. british built at the height of the company's excellence.
@delcampbell9558
9 ай бұрын
Great list. My brother had the bigger advents and always loved those. Surprisingly, he had the bose 301s also an I agree, they really sounded good. I didn't like the 201s, 501s and 701s that I demoed because they didn't give me the impact that I thought his 701s had. I'm now vintage electroboice in one room and Klipsch in the other, so obviously took a very different turn, but find memories of the 301s
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